so im sure everyones fully well aware of the magic 8 ball site fob is using to promote a contest to win some tickets to see them in nashville. the little 8ball widget theyve got in browser is also modeled on the physical 8ball that they had in the vip merch packages for tourdust's first leg, which is cool! but of particular note is the way that, to fill out the contest form, you have to pick your favorite fall out boy songs. and the sheer breadth of what is allowed is...interesting? it's not cohesive by any means, but it is really wild the selection of songs they have here because not all of them are fob songs. in fact, quite a few of them aren't.
i went directly to the source code and got a full list of all possible songs that you could input (which you can check for yourself by right-clicking and selecting "view source"). i'm going to list them here for archival purposes, with a few notes/explanations cause some of these are WILD.
there are 187 songs total listed.
bolded songs indicate songs that are demos or never received an official release
italicized songs are songs by other bands
underlined songs indicate songs that are covers
songs with an asterisk beside them (*) indicate they are from patrick's solo catalogue. two asterisks (**) are for pete's.
additional commentary by me will be [in brackets]
20 Dollar Nose Bleed
27
7 Minutes in Heaven (Atavan Halen)
7-9 Legendary
A Little Less Sixteen Candles, a Little More "Touch Me"
A Nice Myth [one of the earliest fall out boy demos, found on their first ep, and only the casette version at that]
Allie*
Alone Together
Alpha Dog
America's Suitehearts
American Beauty/American Psycho (song)
American Made
Art of Keeping Up Disappearances
As Long as I Know I'm Getting Paid*
Austin, We Have a Problem
Baby Annihilation
Bad Side of 25*
Bang the Doldrums
Beat It
Big Hype*
Bishops Knife Trick
Bob Dylan
Bounce [this is a song that came out on then-Decaydance labelmates The Cab's debut record, Whisper War, which patrick produced. he has writing credit and also is credited with background vocals (and also shows up in the music video)]
Caffeine Cold
Calm Before the Storm
Centuries
Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends
Champion
Check Your Phone**
Chicago is So Two Years Ago
Church
City in a Garden
Coast (It's Gonna Get Better)*
Coffee's for Closers
Cryptozoology*
Cute Girls*
Cyanide** [this is a nothing,nowhere song that pete did some spoken word parts and backing vocals on]
Dance Miserable*
Dance, Dance
Dead on Arrival
Dear Future Self (Hands Up)
Death Valley
Deep Blue Love* [song patrick did for the indie short film "spell"]
Demigods
Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes
Don't You Know Who I Think I Am?
Electric Touch [the (in?)famous taylor swift song patrick featured on]
Eternal Summer
Everybody Wants Somebody*
Explode*
Fake Out
Fame Less than Infamy
Favorite Record
Fellowship of the Nerd [this is an alternate title for world's not waiting, as far as i can tell]
Flu Game
Flu Game [yes flu game is listed twice for some reason]
Footprints in the Snow [demo from the Llamania ep]
Fourth of July
From Now on We Are Enemies
G.I.N.A.S.F.S.
Get Busy Living or Get Busy Dying (Do Your Part to Save the Scene and Stop Going to Shows)
Ghostbusters (I'm Not Afraid)
Golden
Grand Theft Autumn/Where Is Your Boy
Greed*
Grenade Jumper
Grow Up and Be Kids [this song is on The Cab's sophomore album Symphony Soldier, which release after they left decaydance. nonetheless, pete does have some writing credits on it. give it a listen and you'll hear for yourself in the first 10 seconds or so]
Growing Up
Hand Crushed by a Mallet [this is a remix of the 100gecs song of the same name; patrick did some vocals for it]
Hand of God
Have I Got a Gift for You* [song patrick did for the horror movie black friday]
Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet
Heartbreak Feels So Good
Heaven's Gate
Heaven, Iowa
Hold Me Like a Grudge
Hold Me Tight or Don't
Homesick at Space Camp
Honorable Mention
Hot to the Touch, Cold on the Inside
Hum Hallelujah
I Am My Own Muse
I Don't Care
I Got Nothing, But You Got Something [this is the one that really perplexes me. there's no evidence of this song actually existing, other than an unverified genius post and an article on a single fandom wiki. it is inexplicably listed here despite its very existence being questionable at best.]
I Slept with Someone in Fall Out Boy and All I Got Was This Stupid Song Written About Me
I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Who Loves Me)
I'm Like a Lawyer with the Way I'm Always Trying to Get You Off (Me & You)
I've Been Waiting [this is technically a lil peep song with fall out boy as a feature]
I've Got a Dark Alley and a Bad Idea That Says You Should Shut Your Mouth (Summer Song)
I've Got All This Ringing in My Ears and None on My Fingers
Immortals
Irresistible
It's Hard to Say 'I Do', When I Don't
It's Not a Side Effect of the Cocaine, I Am Thinking It Must Be Love
Jet Pack Blues
Just One Yesterday
Lake Effect Kid (song)
Lake Shore Drive [this is a song patrick covered on the piano at wrigley, first night of tourdust]
Love from the Other Side
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Love, Selfish Love*
Love, Sex, Death
Lullabye
Mad at Nothing*
Miss Missing You
Moving Pictures
My Heart Is the Worst Kind of Weapon
My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light Em Up)
New Dreams [this is a bonus track on pax am days, a naked rayguns cover]
Nobody Puts Baby in the Corner
Novocaine
Of All the Gin Joints in All the World
One of Those Nights [another song from the cab's whisper war. this one has patrick doing vocals very prominently]
Open Happiness [this was a huge collaborative piece done for a coca cola commercial. patrick was on it along with big names like cee lo green, janelle monae, and labelmates travie mccoy and brendon urie]
Our Lawyer Made Us Change the Name of This Song So We Wouldn't Get Sued
Parker Lewis Can't Lose (But I'm Gonna Give It My Best Shot)
Past Life [llamania ep]
Pavlove
People Never Done a Good Thing*
Porcelain*
Pretty in Punk
Rat a Tat
Reinventing the Wheel to Run Myself Over
Roxanne
Run Dry (X Heart X Fingers)*
San Diego [this is a blink-182 song that patrick did some writing for]
Saturday
Saturday Night Again*
Save Rock and Roll (song)
Sending Postcards from a Plane Crash (Wish You Were Here)
She's My Winona
Short, Fast, and Loud
Snitches and Talkers Get Stitches and Walkers
So Good Right Now
So Much (For) Stardust (song)
So Sick [this is a song patrick has exclusively covered live, so it's a fascinating inclusion]
Sober [another blink-182 song patrick did some writing for]
Sophomore Slump or Comeback of the Year
Star 67
Stay Frosty Royal Milk Tea
Sugar, We're Goin Down
Summer Days (song) [this is a martin garrix song patrick lent some vocals to]
Sunshine Riptide
Super Fade
Switchblades and Infidelity
Tell That Mick He Just Made My List of Things to Do Today
The "I" In Lie*
The (After) Life of the Party
The (Shipped) Gold Standard
The Carpal Tunnel of Love
The Kids Aren't Alright
The Kintsugi Kid (Ten Years)
The Last of the Real Ones
The Mighty Fall
The Music or the Misery
The Patron Saint of Liars and Fakes
The Phoenix
The Pink Seashell
The Pros and Cons of Breathing
The Take Over, the Breaks Over
The World's Not Waiting (For Five Tired Boys in a Broken Down Van)
This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race
This City*
Thnks fr th Mmrs (song) [for some reason the site specifies song here, despite that not being necessary. the only other times this distinction is relevant is when songs share a title with their albums, i.e. save rock and roll]
Thriller
Tiffany Blews
Twin Skeleton's (Hotel in NYC)
Uma Thurman
Untitled 1 (Colorado Song)
Untitled 2 (Jakus Song) [both of these are recently released tttyg era demos]
W.A.M.S.
We Didn't Start the Fire
We Don’t Take Hits, We Write Them [this is a song that famously was only ever performed live. we don't have a studio recording or even a demo, as only live versions exist]
We Were Doomed from the Start (The King is Dead)
West Coast Smoker
What a Catch, Donnie
What a Time To Be Alive
What's This?
When I Made You Cry*
Where Did the Party Go
Wilson (Expensive Mistakes)
Wrong Side of Paradise [llamania ep]
XO
You're Crashing, But You're No Wave
Young and Menace
Young Volcanoes
Yule Shoot Your Eye Out
in conclusion i have no idea who compiled this list. it doesn't include every song patrick and pete have ever touched (notice the lack of gym class heroes, cobra starship, and hush sound discography) but it has a really weird selection of songs. i mean, blink songs patrick wrote on?? its bizarre.
anyway do you think if we mass request swing me by the rafters they'll have to do it
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still kind of insane to me that people talk shit about jiang cheng without fully understanding what he has been through so lets just understand what his mental state is like BEFORE canon begins:
born via a dysfunctional marriage to be the sect heir
father doesnt care for him, mother expects too much from him/everything he does is not enough
has his three dogs just kicked out randomly with no notice because of some kid he's never heard of by the father who never gave him love and/or attention
said father then favours this kid more than him, to the point that the entire world basically thinks that this kid is biologically your father's son as well, which causes even more family dysfunction
despite this still learns to love this kid as his unofficial brother
works his absolute hardest but is always second-best because his new shixiong is naturally talented
nobody appreciates the hard work he puts in at being second place despite the fact wwx literally doesnt work hard for it
masks his emotions with anger as a coping mechanism to minimise the amount of hurt he feels
ok great so now lets actually take all of the above and apply this mental wellbeing to canon events FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE (keep in mind this is literally what jc is seeing/experiencing because he DOESNT KNOW what the reader knows):
brother is off being the protagonist and getting in trouble and gets their sisters marriage ruined
comes home from a year away and then almost immediately has to go and be a hostage where brother continues his protagonist behaviour
gets trapped and nearly dies in a cave with a 400-year-old monster, is in charge of finding a way out and making sure everyone else escapes
brother and a guy who maybe hates him get stuck behind in the cave so now jiang cheng has to boost it home ON FOOT, without food, to get manpower to rescue them, which takes a minimum of a few days likely without any food or sleep
no appreciation or thanks for doing that since brother was more heroic and killed the 400-year-old monster
gets scolded by his father for being annoyed by this
parents immediately get into another fight about father loving wwx more than jc
because of the above shenanigans their sect is targeted next
tries to defend brother against being whipped to death and/or having his hand cut off by mother
witnesses his entire sect being burned and murdered
loses both his parents
decides to sacrifice himself to save his brother's life, instead of dying he is tortured and has his golden core melted
on top of his inferiority issues, the ONE THING he was expected to do was be the sect leader for the yunmeng jiang. the sect that no longer exists. he is now a sect leader with no sect and no golden core. no shit he wants to mcfuckin die
miraculously gets a new golden core but loses his brother
immediately plunged into a war and he's only like 17
spends 3 months trying to find his brother only for his brother to show up doing the Forbidden Magic and necromancy which is Super Disrespectful in their culture like holy shit what are you doing
brother refuses to use his sword in favour of the Forbidden Magics and kind of keeps undermining jc's orders as sect leader which makes jc look weak in front of all the other sect leaders when he's actively trying to rebuild their sect and be respected as a leader
fights a war for [handwaves] an amount of time, certainly a few years minimum, while watching his brother descend further into Unhealthy Behaviour but brother refuses to do anything or talk about it
ends up lowkey being a war hero
the other three great sects (of which there are now only four) swear brotherhood, leaving out ONLY ymj/jiang cheng, which, what the Fuck dude
is now a teenager who has lost his parents who now has to rebuild his sect from scratch with fuck all money, supplies, and support
brother, who promised to always be at his side helping, is not helping, and in fact is actively just getting drunk and being a nuisance and STILL REFUSING TO SAY WHY
entire cultivation world starts to turn on his brother who is now looking like a loose cannon bc he has Forbidden Magics that are Terrifyingly Powerful and also it has been proven that he does not give a fuck about jc's opinion since he's constantly doing whatever the fuck he wants
literally out of nowhere said brother decides to piss off everyone, start fights, and then KILL JIN GUARDS at a camp and MAKE OFF with like fifty people who are part of the family that he just fought a war against and were responsible for slaughtering his family/sect
go to the terrifying haunted mountain where wwx and the wen remnants are and sees that he's essentially starting a new family with a kid and crops, doesn't seem to care that jiang cheng is still trying to keep the ymj afloat and look like they have any strength
brother is still doing Forbidden Magic and refuses to explain why, and now says he'll secede from the ymj so his bad reputation doesn't reflect on jc like he HASNT BEEN DOING THAT THE WHOLE TIME
so now shixiong wants to just abandon jc completely after jc has lost his parents, had to rebuild everything from scratch, while ignoring the promise he's made their whole life? ok fuck you
jc also can't defend him in public because that would turn the ymj into a target and please keep in mind he is a teenager who was expected to do this ONE THING by his parents and he has poured his heart and soul and blood and tears into rebuilding the ymj and they are So Vulnerable Right Now
uhhh what the fuck suddenly wwx kills their sister's husband ?? bro what the FUCK?
everyone rallies to go and attack wwx for this and again jc literally cant do anything about it and refusing to go will just make everyone assume he's on wwx's side and their sect can't afford to be attacked rn
bro what the fuck now THEIR SISTER IS DEAD?????
oh even better now said brother is DEAD
jiang cheng literally has NO ONE LEFT. no friends. no family. no parents, no siblings, everyone he knew growing up is dead. its literally just him and his infant nephew, who by the way, is living with the sect who are the most powerful and also most likely to be super fucking shady so jc has to tread very carefully
so jc spends over a decade raising his nephew ALONE while trying to make ymj powerful and also hunting/killing demonic cultivators that now p much only exist bc his brother invented/popularised the technique
oh yeah and also this whole time the guy who maybe hated his brother is now like EVEN colder and more antagonistic towards jc like it was HIS FAULT that wwx is dead? get fucked lan wangji you didnt even like the guy (or if this is cql/untamed canon: you literally did nothing either so where do you get off on acting like you're better than jc)
over a decade passes and suddenly his dead brother is alive again and causing more problems and acting like the things he did were not major contributors towards jc's entire family and sect dying
More Political Drama Happens and jc has to manage it
suddenly its revealed that the guy he's been co-raising his nephew with is the major villain who caused the entire world to turn on wwx in the first place oh and also it turns out that the fucking miraculous core jc has IS HIS BROTHER'S, WHO NEVER SAID ANYTHING, AND THIS IS THE REASON HE STARTED THE FORBIDDEN MAGICS AND STOPPED HELPING AROUND THE SECT, but he didnt even BOTHER to tell jiang cheng about it
by the way did i mention this was done via an entirely unconsented experimental surgery
and now the brother of the doctor who did the unconsented experimental surgery is ?? mad at jiang cheng about it ???? like he was supposed to KNOW ABOUT THIS when wwx was KEEPING IT FROM HIM ON PURPOSE???
and now theyre all nearly dying in this dumbass temple - and the ONE family member jc still has is literally being threatened with a garotte
oh cool now jc's brother is saying forget the past let's just leave it all behind !!! as though THAT ISNT JC'S ENTIRE LIFE AND TRAUMA and the ONE THING he EVER wanted was for him, wwx, and jyl to be alive and happy, and now wwx is saying just forget it! like FUCK YOU???? does jc truly mean NOTHING???????
oh and now his brother is off gallivanting with the guy who hated him - who it turns out doesn't hate him - and now they're getting married
and jiang cheng is meant to just. pretend all of this never happened and live his life normally. while wwx is out there. being happy and married.
like... if you can read all of this and still treat jc like he's the bad guy, i'm sorry, but you have literally zero empathy. dude had it probably more rough than any of the other main ensemble cast, and i am including jgy in that, because jgy Made His Choices. jc literally just had to let things happen around him helplessly
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