#NO MAN’S LAND

[neddea]

Some days ago I made this post with some concept art, so here’s a little bit more info about my No Man’s Land! (Disclaimer about the details below the cut: I’m just an artist and in no way, shape or form a scientist, even less so an astrophysicist, so the chances of some of this info being wrong or dubious are very high lol)

Just as a little bit of context, Kepler-47 is an actual “solar system” with two host stars. We’ve been able to find three planets so far, and the outermost (47c) lies in the habitable zone. All three of them are gas giants (or rather “puffy giants” since they’re surprisingly not very dense and temperate).

I’m not gonna give too many details about the real 47c, I’ll leave that for the long post I’m working on (if I ever get to actually publish it, let’s be honest), but the only thing to keep in mind is that Nomans would be a moon orbiting this planet. Also, I decided that people would shorten “No Man’s Land” to “Nomans” overtime, which is the name I’m gonna be using. The question is: how do we call the people living there? Nomanians?

So here are the main points of my design!

-I’ve given 47c several other moons because I wanted it to match the canon as much as I could, and I think it might even help the stability of the orbits if they’re in a specific resonance? Idk, maybe an actual astrophysicist could give me some advice on this (please do)

-The interesting bit about trying to make it match the canon is that I had to make Nomans tidally locked to 47c just to have an excuse for why we never see the big planet on the sky. The idea would be that most of the Seeds ships crashed into the outer face of the moon, and since the other side, the one that’s always looking at 47c, has more extreme conditions precisely because of the influence of the host planet on it, not many people have ventured too much into these lands. At least until now…

-Speaking of the other moons, which one would be the best candidate for the Fifth Moon incident? (Spoiler alert for Maximum and ‘98: Knives forces Vash to use his Angel Arm and he ends up firing at the fifth moon, which leaves its surface marked with a big crater) We have two options: It could be one of the outer moons (the ones whose orbit is beyond that of Nomans) since those are the ones more likely to be present in the visible sky; or it could be Moon II, whose regolith would be launched into space from the blast and form the rings…

-The surface gravity is almost identical to ours here on Earth, although slightly lighter (9.66 m/s^2 compared to 9.8 m/s^2).

-Nomans is somewhat bigger than Mars but smaller than Earth.

-One day lasts for almost 27 hours, and one year would take almost 270 Nomanian days (I swear this was a coincidence). Also, a fun fact on which I’m basing the calendar system (still working on that): it takes 6.6 days for the two stars to orbit around each other. People probably noticed this and were like “Sure, that’s the seven days of the week if you ask me”, probably so that they didn’t have to figure out everything from scratch (I’d do the same). It would be fun to see different cities and places to develop their own weird and wonderful systems (not me spending several hours yesterday to understand all the Maya calendars and wondering what they would come up with in this alien planet moon…).

-And speaking about time, here’s a visual explanation on how the times of day work on the side facing 47c! I realized the other day that at noon the light would probably be tinted slightly red (or some other color, depending on the elements found on 47c’s atmosphere), just like it happens on our Moon when there’s a lunar eclipse. Please make as if you didn’t know this and let’s move on. Also, as a Spaniard I have the right to declare noon time in this part of the world the Sacred Siesta Period.

(Also, shout out to @norageonlypancakes because my main inspiration for these BGs is Chesley Bonestell, he was The Space Artist™️ of the 20th century and inspired so many people to become space nerds or even scientists!) (Also x2, thank you everyone for the lovely comments and tags on the previous post <3)

#trigun #vash the stampede #trigun stampede #trigun maximum #no man’s land #also reminder that this au is going to be very vashwood flavoured #and woowoo is going to be reincarnated because I need to #fix it #fix it au #nicholas d. wolfwood #vashwood #long post #astrophysics #concept art #exoplanets #Kepler-47 #astronomy #circumbinary planets #planet design #neddea #my art #Trigun-47

[heroesriseandfall]

Thinking about Tim’s 16th birthday and how it contrasts and compares to what his 15th birthday could’ve been…

Tim and Jack both forget Tim’s 16th birthday is coming up, but Tim’s new stepmom Dana remembers, despite only being around for at most one other birthday. (She became Jack’s girlfriend when Tim was 14 and married Jack when Tim was 15, so the only birthday she’d know him for was the 15th.) Once Dana reminds Jack they plan the surprise party with all Tim’s favorite foods and friends—all in all a much better reaction to Tim’s 16th birthday than what Bruce and Alfred did.

But here’s the thing. Tim’s 15th birthday occurred during No Man’s Land, when the islands of Gotham were cut off from the mainland and it was considered an illegal and dangerous place to be. Tim ran away to NML around July 7th, and was still there 2 weeks later (using this timeline for reference) sometime after which his dad managed to get him extracted from NML via a helicopter (lol). This means Tim was in No Man’s Land at least from around July 7th to July 21st…and Tim’s birthday is July 19th.

There’s no way to be confident what happened for Tim’s birthday, because it had never been mentioned yet. One idea is that in the chaos, Tim & Jack once again forgot. However, this wouldn’t quite explain both Dana knowing Tim’s birthday and being surprised when they forgot it.

Dana could have looked it up or asked when she became Tim’s stepmom, but also. We know Dana was with Jack the whole time Tim was in No Man’s Land. Considering how stressed and worried Jack was about Tim being in No Man’s Land, my guess is he could’ve made a big deal about Tim turning 15 while he was stuck in NML. If Jack made a big deal about the date, that would explain why next year, Dana remembered Tim’s birthdate was coming up, despite having never celebrated it before.

Edit: Remembered/found a panel in Robin #125 where Tim says Jack used to proudly tell stories every year on Tim’s birthdays + Christmas about Tim’s grandpa lying about his age to enlist in WW2 at 15. I dunno if this adds much to my analysis but it’s deeply ironic and funny to me.

#just some thoughts. also the beginning of nml may be funky but boy does it fit wel for Tim to be gone on his bday #tim drake #batfam #dana winters #jack drake #heroesriseandfall #robin (1993) #no man’s land

[laufire]

I wrote a few ficlets for the three sentences ficathon these last few weeks, and I just crossposted them in ao3, so I thought I'd share them here!

took ill on thursday (100 words)

prompt: dc comics, any, never could get the hang of thursdays. gotham city & jason todd, stephanie brown. canon compliant, post-war games/pre-utrh.

comparisons are odious (100 words)

prompt: dc comics, joey wilson, like father like son. dick grayson & joey wilson. canon compliant, post-judas contract. can be seen as gen or pre-slash, ymmv.

sugar glass wings (100 words)

prompt: dc comics, mia dearden, future. mia dearden, canon compliant, circa green arrow (2001).

a roof with a view (100 words)

prompt: dc, any, wing!fic. batman & robin, canon compliant, pov outsider.

a son's land (300 words)

prompt: dc comics, jason todd, no man's land. gotham city & jason todd, canon divergence, no man's land au.

a new language (200 words)

prompt: dc comics, any f/f, late nights. cassandra cain/barbara gordon, canon compliant, circa batgirl (2000), unrequited crush.

oracle travels (100 words)

prompt: dc, any birds of prey member(s), wing!fic. barbara gordon, canon compliant, oracle!barabara.

remembrance (100 words)

prompt: dc comics, kara zor-el, remembering krypton. kara zor-el, canon compliant, kara & krypton.

and here you can see my prompts (some of which already received fills!)

#my stuff #dc #dc comics #dc fic #jason todd #joey wilson #dick grayson #dickjoey #mia dearden #barbara x cass #cassandra cain #no man’s land #barbara gordon #kara zor el #my fics

[starrycomics]

Batman: Shadow of the Bat #83

We’re about 90 days into No Man’s Land at this point, so we have to presume that Barbara is cutting this sick bob herself in the middle of this dystopian hell scape, what a queen

#Barbara Gordon #oracle #Batman #shadow of the bat #no man’s land #honestly this whole look is really working for her

[perfectmanisperfect]

i need to keep reading the dc comics but i literally do not know what to read after finishing no man’s land. i’m trying to keep up with reading everything tim drake is in but also i’m not skipping anything that doesn’t have him if it’s part of a bigger arc. tim drake is just like my guiding character lmao

this is me finally asking for actual help. what should i read to keep up with him and batman in general. i found a tim drake reading guide online but it’s just saying to read all the robin comics in order and i’m like is there another big arc coming up?

ok too long the question is what is after no man’s land that also includes batfam related characters? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

#dc comics #batman #tim drake #no man’s land #dc #please be nice lol i’m so scared to ask for help #i hate being new to things but also i miss the comics lol #batfamily

[somefanficrecomendations]

Robins are an Invasive Species

Author: Havendance Fandom: Batman (comics), Huntress

Summary: Team up with a teen vigilante once and you'll never get rid of him again. Helena didn't sign up for any of this. Writing the fic I want to read, one Huntress and Robin team up at a time.

Readers Notes: This series sat in my TBR pile for months before I decided to pick it up in the hopes of reducing the size of the stack. It has 3 parts, Robins Don’t Make Great Roommates, Brothers Have the Worst Timing and, Batman for Dummies. Batman for Dummies is the longest work in the series and spans the No Man’s Land arc. I hadn’t read anything with Helena in it before this fic but after reading this I’ve gained a new appreciation for her as a character, and I love her and Tim as Batman and Robin! I love Tim, and Tim as Robin isn’t something I get to read very often. He’s difficult to write correctly, balancing the bat-competency and pragmatic realism with the optimism of a  young Robin!Tim. Havendance has done a spectacular job with these characters. If you’ve never read Huntress, this is a great place to start.

Rating: Teen  Warning: None Apply.    Words: 42,848k          Characters: Helena Bertinelli, Tim Drake, Barbra Gordon, Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson Additional tags: Helena Bertinelli & Tim Drake, No Man’s Land, Batman: Knightfall, Helena Bertinelli is Batman, POV Helena Bertinelli, AU-Canon Divergence, Helena Bertinelli-Centric, Canon Typical Violence

#huntress fic rec #huntress #batman fic rec #helena bertinelli #tim drake #dc #detective comics #batman comics #robin #batman #No Man’s Land #fic rec #batman: knightfall #au-canon divergence #pov helena bertinelli #helena bertinelli is batman #cannon typical violence #words: 40k #wip #series

[isagrimorie]

NEW NOVELISATION! The Seven and Raffi audiobook adventure #StarTrekPicard 'No Man's Land' is getting a full novelisation! Written by Kirsten Beyer and Mike Johnson, it's set for release Nov 5, 2024.

Pre-order here

#star trek picard #star trek #trek books #kristen beyer #seven of nine #raffi musiker #ship: seven x raffi #no man’s land

[zahri-melitor]

Cataclysm and No Man’s Land, to me, are one of the parts of DC Comics that are the most concrete in their time and place.

The Cataclysm happened mid 1998 (around American Independence Day). It SHOULD be Independence Day. This is a very American story, about national identity. No Man’s Land happened in 1999. For about 18 months there the Bat books run almost in real time.

Mr Wayne Goes To Washington at the end of 1998. He’s going to appeal to Washington to save his city even as the US have midterms. Of course nobody wants to pay to save Gotham - they have elections to win, and there’s no votes in spending big on Gotham, in blowing a hole in the budget.

They blow the bridges at midnight on New Year’s Eve. Even as firework displays go off, as people celebrate, they destroy the connection to Gotham and damn those left behind.

This is a disaster that happened before Y2K. The lack of Oracle’s computing power for the year is almost referential of the oncoming worries about whether all the computers ARE about to crash and the world fall into lawlessness.

Barbara’s diary date count is real, a running concept of time in a place where the date no longer matters, the only thing that matters is how long it has been happening. I understand her record on a deep fundamental level. I too counted lockdowns by day, and knew it was Day 51, Day 97, Day 108. Days since the only important thing happened, since my world changed.

And then, when Tim Drake’s rescue finally captures the outside world’s attention? It’s in late 1999, even as candidates for President are positioning themselves for the 2000 election.

Lex Luthor moves to rebuild Gotham as much to position himself as a possible President, to start his election campaign, as he does to try and acquire cheap title to half of Gotham and screw Bruce Wayne.

No Man’s Land happened in 1999. It must always have happened in 1999, to me. Even with comic’s sliding time scale. It could have happened 3-4 years ago in the past, except if it had, it would be a different disaster, with different effects. People would have reacted differently.

#dc #z canon read throughs #no man’s land #it’s just a very set time and place marked on history #it happened HERE because that’s how the story makes sense

[peterkothe]

Inktober 2023 Day 15- DOUGHBOYS

-WWI Doughboy soldiers standing their ground in the mud, blood and bar wire of the trenches.

#my art #artists on tumblr #inktober #illustration #micron pens #Inktober 2023 day 15 #inktober 2023 #world war I #WWI #WWI soliders #the trenches #no man’s land #pentel brush pen #pen and ink

[shawnadraws]

A crying angel and red geraniums 🪽🥀

No reposts of my art

#trigun #shawnadraws #vash the stampede #digital art #trigun 98 #trigun fanart #vash my beloved #I love him aaaaa #no man’s land

[blackbatcass]

Azrael NML Christmas issue actually the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.

Like I’m sorry you can’t tell me this isn’t HILARIOUS. Every male batman character is competing for title of most pathetic man alive and jean paul is WINNING.

#batman #jean paul valley #azrael #no man’s land #normally i don’t give a shit about jean paul but. LOOK AT HIM. most pathetic wet cat man to EVER grace my comic book pages. #he doesn’t know what a christmas present is. #his tragic backstory includes him being forced to eat a LIVE FROG #WTF MAN????? #anyway nml era jpv was iconic

[heroesriseandfall]

Batgirl (2000) #62

Something that messes me up: Cassandra Cain being 8 years old when David Cain made her kill for the first time, and then she runs away from David Cain for years until she reaches Gotham right before the earthquake.

And since she turned 18 on panel in Batgirl #37 right after No Man’s Land, and the earthquake was more than a year before that, she’d be 16 when she reaches Gotham. 8 is half of 16. So by that point Cass had spent half her life being raised by David Cain and the other half running away from him.

#cassandra cain #batgirl (2000) #batfam #cass cain #batfamily #dc continuity #heroesriseandfall #no man’s land #david cain #artistic gore #murder mention #blood imagery tw

[heidithriel]

She is different since she met you… you upset her, in a good way.

And she upsets you that is also good.

She laughs when she’s with you!

When you are not upsetting her. I don’t remember hearing her laugh before…

#no man’s land #seven of nine #raffi x seven #r/7 #seven x raffi #saffi #star trek picard #jeri ryan #michelle hurd #raffaela musiker #Picard

[trigunwritings]

So I attempted to slap together a more…aesthetic map for the Noman’s Land planet? The one that’s shown on-screen is always super brief and I thought it would be neat to have one that was a little easier to understand. Admittedly this isn’t a perfect recreation as I only had photoshop on my ipad available (you’ll have to zoom in to read some of the names), but I’ll prolly spruce it up tomorrow and see if it can be made more easily readable using illustrator instead or something.

Also did you guys realize how silly some of these town/landmark names are?? I genuinely wonder if any of this was canon in the original manga or first anime…

The original map image I used below the cut:

#trigun #trigun stampede #notwriting #art #map #trigun map #no man’s land #noman’s land

[white-elordas-nerdy-lifestyle]

28th December 2023

I’ve been reading a lot of Batman novelizations recently, and I really enjoyed this one!

#nerdy aesthetic #nerdy stuff #aesthetic photography #photography #aesthetic #dc comics #comics #batman #no man’s land #Batman no man’s land #comic book novels

[bloodymary83]

The Swamp Kitty and The Sewer Clown

I’ve been reading the Novelization of “No Mans Land”, it’s honestly better than the comic. Here’s an expert from the book

“As the winter continued, Joker took to trapping what animals he could find, then had hours of fun putting them through therapy. The opossum had been his most successful patient, and now was charming in its blood lust.

Later that night, though, sleeping comfortably with opossum beneath Dr Arkham’s big oak desk, he heard it again. This time, though, he was certain it wasn’t himself who was singing, and after some investigation, tracked the noise to the nearest air duct.”

The fact that he made friends with an opossums and named it “Opossum” just seems right. He looks like an opossum person.

#no man’s land #dc comics #joker dc #the joker #batman #batman dc