#bnha final exams arc

[mettywiththenotes]

I have not seen anyone talking about Tsuyu’s development, which is a shame considering that she’s made a leap from how she used to be to how she is now

Her development centers around following the rules and when it is right to disobey them for the sake of someone’s needs

When I say this has been building up since Kamino arc, I MEAN it. Ever since then, it’s been established that she will not budge to help someone if it means breaking the law

And even though she later expresses the guilt and regret she has for the way she acted, she does not comment on whether her mind has changed about their rescue squad or not. Of course, it is not important in the moment (if at all later), but note how she does not say whether she agrees or still disagrees - she acts on her feelings of regret but, as mentioned before in the story, is pretty level-headed in her beliefs

I feel this establishes how determined she is to follow the law, even if she ends up not doing something that could help someone, even if she ends up feeling upset by what she has refused to do herself. But see, even her determination to follow the law would not stop her upset and therefore would not stop her trying to make up for not supporting them

The experience is brought up again later in the story

She specifically remembers that vulnerable moment, of all her regrets and horrible feelings, and says she’s not going to dwell on that anymore. She won’t regret, she won’t get into her head about nasty thoughts, because she wants to be happy with her friends no matter what. She won’t let them go it alone like she did last time

It’s also to be noted that when Aoyama was revealed as the traitor, she did not argue against him despite him breaking the law. As Izuku and Kirishima expressed, Aoyama obeyed AFO because he thought he was helpless, he clearly didn’t want to do any of it and tried to convince his parents to put an end to the deal. And at the end of the scene, Tsuyu joins the class in their anger, showing that whether she can let his actions slide or disagrees with it, her overall concern is AFO making her classmates and the people she cares about feel helpless and cry

Then this is continued over to the Final War Arc

It is very clear from the moment she enters the battle in 348 that she’s focused on the mission. She expresses that they shouldn’t be talking about romance at a time like this and lays out their plans like a reminder of what they should be doing - a reminder that opposes what Ochako needs to do to save Toga at that moment. But that is obviously not on Tsuyu’s mind in the war, she doesn’t know about it

And again, implying that not ignoring the cries of the enemy is something they don’t need to do right now - basically what she said: “getting the job done”

But when she sees Ochako’s desperation to talk to Toga, she is surprised

And despite her feelings about “chatting about romance (and in general)”, she helps Ochako through the portal. I think this shows her support of her friends feelings in the face of them wanting the opposite of what they should, breaking the law and so on, as it has been shown previously in the series her loyalty to her friends

Much like Ochako wants to do, Tsuyu then ends up talking about love in relation to Toga. Not in the way she should, but it’s a start - she begins to think about the way Toga sees the world

Part of what she says makes Ochako think more about Toga’s reasonings. In a way, she and Tsuyu are bouncing off of each other, now a team effort to figure Toga out and save her (tho Tsuyu’s feelings resonate more with helping Ochako rather than helping Toga herself)

Finally, in this chapter, Tsuyu talks to Toga directly, trying to actually convince her to listen to Ochako. Basically, she wishes to not necessarily break the rules herself, but help her friend do so

Which is a BIG step considering she went from telling Izuku and the rest of 1A that breaking the law would make THEM Villains so she didn’t want to help them do that, to outright trying to help and convince a Villain to listen to her friend

I’ve said before that Tsuyu is a person who regrets hard. In that moment in the ward, where she wears her heart on her sleeve like she always does and speaks her beliefs clear, then finds out they went to rescue Bakugou anyway? The way she talks about her feelings in the dorm, it’s so clear that her refusal to join them when they needed help most broke her heart

Ever since then, Tsuyu has prioritized her friends feelings over her own beliefs of following the law. That’s not to say she shoves everything aside for them, but she isn’t stepping away from her classmates and leaving them to do things on their own like she did before. She is now beside them every step of the way, determined that even if she doesn’t agree on what they want to do, she wants to stay with them regardless because they are important to her

And she knows Ochako isn’t just calling out to Toga for nothing. Tsuyu sees that Ochako is doing it because her feelings are caught up in Toga’s cries that she can’t ignore. Her desperation, the way she doesn’t give up when trying to find and talk to her in the middle of the battle, shows that

All this to say, I really like how Tsuyu’s development has been building up to possibly becoming involved in the saving of a Villain and I love how it is shown through these moments with her friends. Kamino really made her despair and regret so Tsuyu then undauntingly showing her loyalty to her friends from then on and now showing support, trying to convince Toga to listen to what Ochako has to say? Chefs kiss

It has been said before that Tsuyu is “the perfect pillar of emotional support” which, considering all of these events from Kamino and how hard her actions hit her to Rogue Arc to now, definitely fits her personality and development. Figures that the one who decided to step away from the rescue team and regretted acting harshly learns from that experience and basically doubles down in the support she gives her friends from then on

It makes me wonder what will happen now that Toga has stabbed Ochako and what Tsuyu will do next. I’m excited to see

#i hope at least half of this makes sense lol #im just happy to see what she's done and what she's doing and eager to see what she may or may not do #last panel is from chapter 66 btw in the final exam arc #bnha #bnha 392 #bnha manga spoilers #bnha spoilers #tsuyu asui #mettys posts #metty posts #NOTE that i am tired #honk shnoo honk shnoo

[sapphic-agent]

Ranking MHA Arcs

Vs. Hero Killer Stain: A 9/10 arc. It had great tension, character development, character interaction, and villain. The friendship between Iida, Izuku, and Todoroki felt 10x more genuine than it ever did with Bakugou. The only thing I would change is maybe make Tensei not so virtuous. Maybe he made mistakes in the past or contributed to toxic hero society in some way. Perfect way to develop both Iida and Izuku

Shie Hassaikai: Again, just a great arc. Great villain and tension and love how the LOV are involved but aren't the current enemy. I love Mirio and his sacrifice for Eri was done perfectly, and him rejecting OFA made me love him even more. One of the only arcs where anyone cared about how Izuku was doing (love Iida and Todo forever). The only reason I'm putting it at #2 is Nighteye being a pretentious prick who pissed me off the whole time.

Battle Trial: One of the only arcs where Bakugou's actions aren't depicted as okay. Also calls out his behavior by making him lose because of it. Izuku's actions are recognized wholly, both what he did wrong and what he did right. Back when Momo was analytical and sharp. Also, evil Iida kills me every time. Just a pretty solid arc overall, good balance of tension and humor. There's only one thing I hate and it's that Izuku felt so guilty that he told Bakugou that he inherited his quirk

Meta Liberation: The only saving grace of season 5. The LOV was so well-written and Shigaraki's progression into a leader was so well done. I would have made it top three if it wasn't for Shigaraki's autonomy immediately being taken away by him wanting AFO. Kind of ruined the whole point of the arc

Entrance Exam: I had to make it top 5. It perfectly captures what made early MHA so great. It's so inspirational to everyone whose dreams have ever been discouraged. Some things could have been handled better which is why it isn't higher, but in general I love it

Sports Festival: I've talked about what I do and don't like about the Sports Festival before. There were a lot of good and bad things about it. Uraraka and Todoroki had great development, Izuku's and Tokoyamk's were okay, and Momo's was terrible. But what really keeps it out of the top 5 is the Bakugou pandering. It's the first arc that really starts to do this and it really ruins what could have been a really good arc

Hideout Raid: Again, the only reason this isn't higher is because it's so centered around Bakugou. If it wasn't just an arc pandering to him and his "development," it'd be a lot better. But I'm putting it at 7 because of the awesome fight between All Might and AFO. Easily one of the best in the series. And how that saved Bakugou was pretty damn cool ngl

UA School Festival: Gentle Criminal is tied for my favorite MHA villain with Stain. Not only is he relatable as fuck, his quirk is so unique. He was just so enjoyable. The festival was cute, though I felt as though this arc could have focused more on Eri's trauma. It's great that the festival was something for her to look forward to, but there could have been more done here. Also, Aizawa blaming his students for the other students being resentful and making them take accountability. Also, Bakugou being good at the drums for no reason

Paranormal Liberation War: As far as major arcs this one is okay. I feel like some parts of it were too drawn out, but it wasn't terrible. I liked Dabi exposing Endeavor, and Mirko chasing down Garaki like a bat out of hell was funny. Hawks' fight with Twice was also very impactful. BUT it also felt like a lot of the pros were useless. Like, Mount Lady struggling so much with Gigantomachia felt odd. She should have been more effective imo. I also wasn't a fan of how Midnight died in the manga, that felt unnecessarily brutal

USJ: This arc does a great job of introducing Shigaraki... And not much else. Like, I don't think it's bad at all, but it was a little boring. It does get points though for Tsu casually drowning Mineta, little moments like this make it watchable

Quirk Apprehension Test: The only reason this arc isn't lower is because of Izuku proving that he belongs at UA as much as anyone else. That was a great moment for him. But the QAT is quirkist and honestly just mean-spirited. Why would you humiliate a student in front of their classmates like that? Not to mention that Aizawa was blatantly singling him out with it. Just the beginning of Aizawa being a bad teacher

Provisional Hero License Exam: I struggled where to put this arc. Because honestly? It was good for the most part. I liked seeing how the kids each handled their tasks and opponents. Bakugou failed (I know I've said that this is undercut by Todo failing too, but it's still satisfying) and it really got into the nuances of rescue work. I liked it... Until Deku vs Kacchan Part 2. This fight ruins the entire arc for me. Bakugou fails because he couldn't stop being a dick for 2 seconds and decides he's allowed to take it out on Izuku? Then he trauma dumps on him while playing victim. And then coerces him into a fight. And then is rewarded from throwing this temper tantrum by being given what he wants (knowing about OFA). This was the arc where my feelings towards the series really soured. I really debated putting it at the bottom, but I didn't want to dismiss the good things about it so easily

Forest Training Camp: Only good thing about this arc was Izuku's fight with Muscular and his relationship with Kota. But after that it's Bakugou making bad decisions and everyone else having to suffer for them. I do appreciate Kota slapping Mineta though

Dark Hero: Just... So much potential. But it feels like we never really go below the surface with Izuku. This is supposed to be his arc and it barely focused on who he is. He should have spoken with the vestiges more. Also, while I can understand where they were coming from, 1A ambushing and then antagonizing him was terrible and Bakugou's bum ass apology was even worse. The only reason it isn't lower is because of my unhinged love for Lady Nagant. She's one of the best written characters in the series and I adore her. Unfortunately, it feels like Hori doesn't allow her to influence the overall story

Pro Hero: So this one is just... Weird. I mean, I don't think I hate it? The fight was pretty cool. I love seeing Hawks' quirk in action because his use of it is so creative. I don't like him and Rei being used to prop Endeavor's development though. I just don't think this arc was that good

Joint Training: So I mentioned this in a reply somewhere, but Bakugou's flawless win felt so unearned. He hasn't put any work into getting along with others and working with a team (all the "progress" he made was others- Izuku- doing the work for him). The fact that he didn't so much as struggle like everyone else was just bad writing. Momo losing even though she did put in the work to learn to strategize better and cover her bases just felt like a slap in the face to her character. Every time it feels like Hori wants to do right by her character, he ends up making it worse but had no problem propping Bakugou up every five minutes. I liked Uraraka being the unsung star of this arc, Monoma's team underestimating her and then living to regret it was nice. It's one of the only times the progress she's made as a hero is ever acknowledged. This arc didn't do a good job of making me care about Shinsou though, no substance to his character. Monoma was pretty entertaining

Endeavor Agency: Boring ass arc. It wasn't funny or entertaining and had zero character development for our main characters. Natsuo is antagonized for calling out Endeavor and poor Fuyumi gets yelled at by Bakugou in her own home for sharing her feelings. And then Izuku's bs "i tHiNk YOurE geTtINg REaDy tO fOrGiVE hiM." Like I love him but wtf is that line? Hori trying to force Endeavor's redemption down our throats

Final Exams: This arc is all kinds of bullshit. Sero takes a hit for Mineta and is incapacitated and fails. Yet Bakugou is continuously uncooperative, attacks him teammate, and is also incapacitated and passes? Not to mention it's all on Izuku to be the one to teach him how to work with others when that's supposed to be Aizawa's job. Every other match was also useless. The only one that has real development and interaction was Tododoki and Momo. Todo gets humbled and learns to stop acting above his classmates (even if he didn't do this with the intent of being harmful, he still did it) and Momo gets more confidence and agency. But no one else really learned anything or improved. This arc just proves how bad a teacher Aizawa is tbh

Remedial Course: I feel like this arc is evidence that Bakugou would suck as the main character. I was bored to tears during the entire thing. It felt like forced Bakugou and Todoroki interaction first of all. And truth be told I didn't know that kid was supposed to be mini Bakugou, I thought he was representative of Monoma. He was nowhere as bad as Bakugou was as a kid and felt a lot more chill. Also looked more like Monoma. Idk if this is how Hori wants us to see kid Bakugou or what but we know this isn't how he was. And then Bakugou gives him this whole lecture only to turn around the next arc and still treat Izuku like shit. Fucking hypocrite. Camie telling him to shut up was the only good thing about this arc (stan Camie)

And that's the list! I'm only doing these arcs because they're the only ones I've read/watched completely. I don't want to make judgements about the next three arcs without fully knowing what I'm talking about. Though the leaks for the Final War don't bode well for its ranking.

So what do we think? Agree? Disagree? Let me know!

#mha critical #bnha critical #anti bakugou katsuki #arc review #ranking #anti endeavor #anti remedial course arc #anti final exams arc #anti endeavor agency arc #anti joint training arc #anti enji todoroki #anti aizawa shota

[littlewichita]

im going crazy trying to find a mha fic and i think the author may have taken it down :((

#sad day #mha #bnha #it was like final exams arc #and midoriya beats bakugou with a brick #and they were like two different endings #sighs #yeah im reading angry and feral izuku again #bc i love it when he goes crazy #midoriya izuku #ao3 #archive of our own

[itsnothingofinterest]

Hey, Hope you're having good Holidays? 👋

Do you think there's going to be a big twist coming up in bnha?

Or maybe a twist big villain or something?

Because all the other villains have been taken out of commission and there's still doesn't seem to be any way for deku to save/defeat shigaraki. (Nothing that we've been shown so far.)

Because shigaraki does seem to be more powerful than deku and even if they do FINALLY start talking, deku seems to be in the same place 'ideal wise' as he was several arcs ago.

Like what could deku say that could prove his point (not that he really has much of a point, as he still hasn't really even thought about trying to fix hero society's giant flaws) to shigaraki now?

Even more, what could deku do, since he's still focusing on the crying child inside shigaraki and not what made the crying child?

Well my answers about the same as it's been for a long while now; I agree Deku's not in the right headspace to save Tomura and probably can't cram the character development to get into that headspace in at the last second before/during his metaphorical final exam here. He still needs to further develop his own views on things if he wants to challenge & change Tomura's views. Maybe Deku could convince him the entire country's not a lost cause and he shouldn't destroy it within a few chapters, but there's a massive gap between that and actually saving him the way we usually mean. The fact the other villains have not really been saved either so far doesn't really help my opinion of Deku's chances.

So yes I do expect a big twist and, same as ever, I expect that twist to be that this is not the final arc and we'll get a My Hero part 2 after Hori takes a long break. It's basically the only real meaningful twist I can think of at this point that'd resolve this time conflict without rushing resolutions that should not be rushed. Especially with Kurogiri (& maybe Machia if he’s alive) still left as dangling plot threads that could potentially recover the villains.

(Though I would not hate it, half just because I think it'd be funny, if the HC president came out of nowhere to reveal she survived clone-stro and is taking over as big bad so that Deku...idk, reevaluates the system he's protecting or something.)

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Although while we're discussing where Deku is, ideal-wise, I have been meaning to go over my current criticisms with him for a bit; which to discuss below a cut:

Is mainly that he’s kind of just All Might again. He's like All Might in nearly every way that counts and his only aspiration is to be All Might 2 and save everyone he can like All Might did. I mean I’ve seen people sometimes say "no Deku’s totally different and better than All Might in this or that way" but those ways often seem to assume All Might was a lot worse, less kind, and more independent than he really was.

(And also that Deku is less independent than he really is; just compare this arc to Kamino, where they both work alongside their hero peers...until they feel the need to take on the final boss 1v1.)

Like, as someone critical of the hero society All Might built, I’ll bet I often come off as thinking All Might wasn’t a good hero. But that’s not so, I think All Might did the best he could have done, and moreover the best anyone could’ve done trying to fix things the way he did. I doubt anyone could've hero'd much better than him. If Deku were sent back in time to replace All Might, the best he could’ve done is about what All Might did. And if All Might faced all the hurdles Deku has, at the same power level for each, I believe he’d have managed at least as happy an ending to every arc.

So the great hurdle of this all is: All Might was the greatest hero he could possibly have been...but he also wasn't enough. The various ways the League were driven to villainy to form the group at all is proof of that. And that's why a rehash sequel to him won't be enough either. I understand why Deku and everyone else admires All Might, but he can't be doing the same things expecting much better results. If he does, then even if he does save Tomura here in the same way the rest of the League has been "saved" so far (a tall order already when Tomura's made clear he doesn't want another All Might), I fear he'll just face another League led by another Tomura in the future; another Tenko who was failed by Deku this time.

#Hope you're having nice holidays too btw. #bnha #shigaraki tomura #gigantomachia #kurogiri #toga himiko #dabi #spinner #redestro #paranormal liberation front #PLF #midoriya izuku #class 1a #all might #hero society #hero public safety commission #my stupid long term predictions

[darkonekrisrewrite]

Toga seems to avoid killing when possible

Especially when it comes to heroes, even select heroes after Twice’s death

(Spoiler warning)(Toga meta and Quirk Theory)

In Bnha Toga Himiko has had multiple chances to personally kill many individuals, including Ochako and Tsuyu but for some reason she never strikes a fatal blow.

I think this adds and plays into the conflict that she’s currently having in recent chapters using Twice’s Quirk, a part of why she’s not able to use it to the fullest extent.  

Starting with all the examples of Toga’s avoidance of critical hits:

(Very easy cut available here.)

The first instance of Toga not following through ^, here in the first conflict between the three girls, the forest training camp arc.

While true that she did try to cut Ochako’s facial area, possibly implying a fatal hit, I think coupled with this ^ and all the other instances (especially with Ochako), Toga was possibly aiming for the cheek.

The next example came later in the Provisional Hero License Exam Arc:

(Camie seems extremely fine ^)

Toga impersonated Camie, a hero student from another school, to get into the Hero license exam.

Drugging her so Toga could take her blood, Camie was asleep for four days and when she woke up, didn’t remember anything and as shown by the picture above (from the/stated by the Bnha Wiki) she “doesn’t care”.

There wasn’t much reason for Toga to kill or not kill Camie, the mission could have been completed either way as nobody realized anything was suspicious or discovered the real Camie in that timeframe.

But Toga went with the latter option.

(Side Point: I don’t think that body disposal could have been a problem either thanks to Kurogiri’s Quirk, if Toga went with the kill option, as Kurogiri was captured during the Shie Hassaikai Arc after the License Exam Arc/Camie mission.)

Next example Rock Lock:

Toga, with the help of Twice, very easily takes out the Pro Hero Rock Lock during the Shie Hassaikai Raid.

But not kills, despite the fact that she could have easily stabbed him in the throat.

Keeping the Hero silent wasn’t an issue, as Toga would have had his mouth covered either way as shown above and while Rock Lock was only stabbed in his side but was still unable to warn his Comrades about Switch going on when they entered the room, the results would have been the same.

But still no kill.

 Bnha games provide evidence too, only with Civilians instead of heroes:

While this could be seen as merely creating a distraction, I think a dead or very close to dying body would have gotten a similar response from the heroes, maybe even more so than a “knocked out passerby with a little blood loss”.

The logistics of this example are a bit iffy but I think it does add more weight to the overall point.

 Cut ahead to the Final Arc:

(Toga landing a stab on Ochako’s back shoulder ^)

There’s no reason Toga couldn’t have gone for the back of the neck or upper spine/center back here, and at this point in the story there’s no reason for her not too.

Toga had already been rejected by Ochako (though Ochako did later have a “change of heart”, wherever that may lead) so there weren’t any of her blood/love related reasons to miss the kill shot unless there still are lingering feelings or the kill isn’t really what she wants.

I think it’s both in this case.

Same with Tsuyu soon after:

(Tsuyu seemed okay in the moments/chapters following this ^)

This doesn’t seem hostile at all, of course I mean after the initial take down.

The same instances come and go with the same results in Toga’s actions not to kill certain people, even after Twice’s death.

 Although that being said, Toga does still definitely kill others, those who are a threat to her and the Lov’s existence.

The other Pro Heroes on the battlefield (Post Twice death, giving rise to Toga’s very justified belief that the heroes will kill her and all the people she cares about) and the civilians in the way/part of hero society’s system (I again say that’s not a problem as 90% of the Bnha Civilians are still awful).

So while I don’t think that Toga has a problem with the concept of killing, I think it might have more to do with her targets.

Why can’t Toga use Twice’s Quirk to its full power?

A number of reasons coming together I think, including but not limited to this ^ one.

Loving and the desire to become (the person Toga is turning into) are necessities to the full power of Toga’s Transformation Quirk.

Toga usually does need some form of love for the person who’s blood she takes and then in that way knowing enough about them to function properly in the transformation but I do think that the idea that “Toga’s power is more based around the intent to become that person” makes slightly more sense when looking at Toga’s Nature.

With Toga wanting an “easier life” and the bonds/happiness that come with it, so she zeroes in on people she believes have the qualities/lifestyle that she wants.

But another part of why Toga can’t use the Twice quirk might be because of the targets of her current battle, tying back into the ‘Toga avoids killing sometimes’ point.

Ochako and Tsuyu being the Heroes she’s fighting and needing to be in conflict with, with the clones stating that “All Hero must die!”, and with that intent not being what Toga really wants.

Toga’s “Pure Love” (though bloody) isn’t to kill others, at least not them.

Current Chapter Spoilers: I think the resent leaks help this theory even more at least for now, as any of the clones could have killed Tsuyu when they had her tied up and the real Toga could have stabbed Ochako center or a little higher, hitting more vital organs.

Also Ochako will be fine; Bakugo survived a Rivet stab in roughly the same area (and several other places) running him through completely, even kept fighting for a while despite the blood loss, so no worries.

#toga himiko #himiko toga #Ochako Uraraka #tsuyu asui #bnha #mha meta #bnha meta

[aashi-heartfilia]

BnHA FINAL Prediction#01

Prediction#01

The next chapter starts with Toga finally declaring her villain name and that's the name of the chapter.

Suppose, her name is Bloodlust or Bloody Lily (she is always connected to Spider Lily and blood is the source of her main power)

Either way, this could be another chapter fleshing out Toga as a villain, like we got a glimpse of her childhood and maybe middle school in the previous chapters, so maybe this chapter will show her breaking point.

As someone on Twitter pointed out, she has never killed anyone on screen other than Curious and Co and that was the moment when her quirk evolved.

She didn't kill the bird in her childhood, she didn't kill Ochako or Bakugo in the forest arc, she didn't kill Camie in the Hero Licence exam, she didn't kill Eraser, and we were never shown that she killed that old lady either (in the war arc)

Most people just assumed she did that because of her nature. Then what was the turning point? We're never shown, but this chapter maybe and maybe that could lead to Ochako understanding her better and coming up with a solution with next chapters focusing on her story.

It goes with the current arc:

Chapter 391: The world that Rejected

Chapter 392: Villain Name

Chapter 393: Bloody Lily

Chapter 394: The world that accepted (Ochako's side of story, to balance things)

Chapter 395: Ochako Uraraka: ORIGINS

Chapter 396: Ochako Uraraka: RISING

Chapter 397: THE URAVITY OF DREAMS AND HOPES

Chapter 398: The two young girls (final conclusion to TOGACHAKO battle)

Chapter 399: Aftermath of TOGACHAKO battle

Chapter 400: Deku vs Shigaraki starts...

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So, if everything goes well I'm expecting at least 7 more chapters for the TogaChako storyline because unlike other characters whose character arcs were very sorted and full-fledged from the beginning (Shouto, Bakugo and Iida) Horikoshi was saving this battle for the last. We don't know what Ochako will possibly do to reach out to Toga.

No honey, that's not good enough.

Plus we don't know much about Ochako either, like Toga said "Ochako had an easy life because rules were made for people like her and she didn't need to deal with a single inconvenience" but we know that's far from the truth.

Ochako had a rough life, her family was poor, she didn't eat her meals to save money. She got into a hero school on her own merit. She became a hero, only to give her parents a proper life.

She saw her friends crying, teacher dying (midnight) and Ochako is a hero who wants to see everyone smile, and that includes Toga (the little girl whom the world rejected).

But if she really wants to become the Uravity of her dreams, we need a solid foundation to back it up! Like how Iida wanted to be Ingenium: The hero who will dash to grab the hand of a lost child or Shouto: who wanted to be a reassuring hero like All Might.

If we want all of this to happen, we need at least 7 back to back chapters!! And that too of at least 15 pages each, since there is still so much we don't know about them.

Plus the Twice Sad Man's Death Parade! Man if that came to a halt in less than 2 chapters, I am going on a rampage!! This death parade is going on for 20+ chapters now!! No way, it can be stopped in just 2 chapters!! Plus, I need a convincing answer as to how this parade will end. How can a single person such as OCHAKO put a stop to this entire army of clones.

Can Toga dying solve this issue? No, I don't think so.

The goal is to save her, not kill her.

But can toga control her clones?

We don't know that either. So at least 7 more chapters.

Plus we can have our main Deku vs Shigaraki from chapter 400 onwards to 420. Remember, we still have All Might vs AFO and other battles remaining? So maybe the narrative can shift to that too.

All Might vs AFO can contain glimpses of other battles too that are going on followed by a finale with All Might losing and going to Shigaraki. Then Deku vs Shigaraki, where Bakugo wakes up and they both defeat AFO Shigaraki together, Heroes Rising style putting an end to the story.

Conclusion:

TOGACHAKO battle: ch 390 to 399

All Might vs AFO: ch 400 to 405

Deku vs Shigaraki: ch 405 to 420

(Here is little Deku for world peace)

~Thanks for reading

Cheers! Sunshine

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[turntechgaykid]

My bnha Rewrite/Redesign:

(*I will be trying to keep this as close to cannon as possible while still editing it to make the story and characters more intriguing)

in my Rewrite Izuku grew up in a small apartment in Japan with just his mom, in between their apartment building and the bakugo household was a school that both izuku and katsuki went to, where they bonded over their love of heroes.

When izuku turned 4 he learned he was quirkless, but katsuki developed a very powerful quirk and because of that and the prejudice against quirkless people they began growing apart, by the time they were in middle school katsuki began actively bullying izuku.

but one day after school izuku was attacked by a villain, luckily tho he was saved by pro hero: All might, tho in his attempt to speak to the hero he had grabbed all might as he was about to fly away.

quickly all might realized he was being held onto and landed on a rooftop, during this izuku asked him if all might thought he could be a hero even if he was quirkless. all might said no and left izuku there but what neither realized was that during the commotion the villain escaped and ended up attacking an capturing another kid, katsuki.

A while later near a business street, many heroes showed to try stopping the villain who'd now started a fire as well. izuku witnessed all this and rushed to try and save his old friend.

afterwards izuku is confronted by all might and offered his quirk but Izuku decides he is going to prove he doesn't need a quirk to be a hero.

Izuku (who spent his summer training/studying) gets high points in the practical exam but gets only rescue points in the entrance exam (he meets Ochako an Iida same as he does in cannon) so when he gets his acceptance letter from UA it's to join the support course not the hero course

(* Izuku being in the support course means he won't be there for the quirk apprehension test or the Battle trial arc with class 1A)

(He an Mei become fast friends) Izuku is present for the USJ attack tho, bc he overhears Ochako discussing it an, being excited at the chance to meet Pro heros: 13 & Eraserhead, decides to sneak onto the bus and join the class.

The villains arrive as they normally due, Izuku gets caught in the crossfire of Kurogiri's teleportation an ends up in a secluded area surrounded by villains, he manages to get away an decides to try an help Aizawa when he arrives at the central plaza tho he sees Aizawa trapped under a villain (nomu).

Izuku also sees a villain (shigaraki) leap at a girl (tsu) nearby, he moves quickly to push her out of the way almost getting attacked himself before both students manage to get away.

Finally all might and takes on the villain while the students get Aizawa to safety, All might is overwhelmed by Kurogiri and nearly teleported away before Katsuki jumps in and incapacitates him.

Shoto jumps in an uses his ice to assist while Katsuki notices Izuku an is pissed and confused then tho the nomu attacks, the students being rescued by all might. All might and the Nomu go ahead to head an Izuku begins to panic as he knows about all might's time limit. Luckily tho the heroes arrive just in time an force the villains to retreat.

Afterwards izuku is taken to the infirmary and while getting patched up is ripped a new one by Nezu, Aizawa & Power loader telling him he should be expelled for such reckless behavior, Izuku apologies an explains himself he then begs to join the hero course and brings up how he saved that girl from the villain. Aizawa an the others conced an agree that IF Izuku wins the upcoming Sports festival as well as stay out of trouble he can transfer.

Part 2

#bnha #bnha midoriya #bnha rewrite #bnha redesign #mha #mha midoriya #izuku midoriya #mha deku #black Izuku midoriya #quirkless au #mineta is dead

[dekusheroacademia]

My Hero Academia stage play information + subtitles project

Welcome to the Ultra Stage (colloquially called the MHA musicals) info post! In this post I will give a brief description of the musicals, tell you where to find them or buy them, and talk about the actors and promotional material. You will also find links to pics, videos and, of course, the subtitles. And easy weebly version of this post can be found at this link.

SUBTITLES

We are making English subtitles for all four musicals! At the moment, subs for musical 2 are out.

MUSICAL 1: ENGLISH SUBTITLES DOWNLOAD - coming soon, 80% done

MUSICAL 2: ENGLISH SUBTITLES DOWNLOAD

MUSICAL 3: ENGLISH SUBTITLES DOWNLOAD

MUSICAL 3´4: ENGLISH SUBTITLES DOWNLOAD - coming soon, 40% done

Wanna help with making subtitles? Or donate on kofi to help us commission missing dialogue to translate

VIDEOS AND GIFS (in this blog)

I also have been posting some gifs and pics from the four BNHA musical (official musicals) which are out at the moment. You can find them at the tag bnha musical. I also post comparisons of scenes between the musical and the manga, and I post snipped of subtitled videos at this tag ultra stage video.

INFO: THE MUSICALS

There are, at the moment, four musicals, in chronological order, covering the bnha manga plot from chapter 1 till the end of Deku vs Kacchan 2. I will add their Japanese tiltes if you wanna look for them on Amazon Japan.

The first musical is called "My Hero Academia: The "Ultra" Stage" and came out in 2019. It adapts the beginning of the manga, up to the sport festival (chapter 1 to 44). This is the Japanese title: 「僕のヒーローアカデミア」The “Ultra” Stage (ジ・ウルトラ・ステージ). And the musical is about 2 hours. This is also the only musical that can be found on bilibili.

The second musical had some troubles due to covid, so, as far as I know there were two versions. The first one was interrupted by covid, but the second one run in 2021 and had some extra scenes too. The title is "My Hero Academia: The "Ultra" Stage A True Hero, Plus Ultra version" and it covers the Stain arc, the internship, the final exams and it ends with the mall scene where Deku meets Shigaraki (chapter 45 to 70). The "Plus Ultra version" is specifically added because it is the second version of the second musical. The Japanese title is 「僕のヒーローアカデミア」The “Ultra"Stage 本物の英雄ヒーローPLUS ULTRA ver.. And the musical is about 2 hours and 20 minutes.

The third musical came out in 2022 and it is called "My Hero Academia" The "Ultra" Stage Symbol of Peace" and it covers the forest training arc and Kamino (chapter 70 to 95). Title: 「僕のヒーローアカデミア」The “Ultra" Stage 平和の象徴(法人特典なし).

The fourth musical has been announced at Jump Festa 2022, the 17/12/22 and is called "My Hero Academia" The "Ultra" Stage The Greatest Hero mode (the link of the website and the cast is here). The musical run until 21st of May 2023 (from the 29th of April 2023). The dvd is out for preorder and you can find it on amazon with this title: 「僕のヒーローアカデミア」The “Ultra” Stage 最高のヒーロー. It will come out the 20th of September. The musical covers from the teachers meeting the students' parents to the aftermath of Deku vs Kacchan 2 (up till chapter 121).

DVDS

The musicals all run live in different theaters, but luckily they were all filmed. The title I used are also the title used in the dvds. Each dvd copy comes with two discs, one with zoom in on faces and camera work, and the second one with a still camera, so you can see the whole stage. The dvds comes without subtitles, but the dialogues are very similar to the anime.

At the moment all the musicals (1, 2 and 3) can be purchased on Amazon Japan, or rented on Amazon Prime Japan (only 1 and 2).

Musical 4 can be pre-ordered.

Other options for purchases are: YesAsia and CdJapan.

For the exact titles to search (with covers, to make sure you get the right one), please check this page.

PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL

The Kacchako cooking video went quite popular, it was a promotional material for the second musical being filmed for dvd. You can find the transcript here and the subtitled video here (it is two parts, so you can find part 2 in that post). These videos were created for a special series of mini videos called Smash! Unfortunately no other Smash! was recorded or shared.

The actors also shared a lot of pictures from behind the scenes, so I will link their twitter accounts to their names. I will also try to share as much twitter pics as I can here on my blog, with the tag "musical twitter promo".

THE ACTORS

This information comes from the dvds and the wikia. I tried to link all twitter accounts I could find, as the actors usually share pictures.

Class 1A

Shin Tamura as Izuku Midoriya (instagram)

Ryota Kobayashi as Katsuki Bakugo (instagram)

Yume Takeuchi as Ochaco Uraraka and Mt Lady (instagram)

Naoki Takeshi as Tenya Iida, from musical 2 onwards. In the first musical Hiroki Ino played Iida.

Ryo Kitamura as Shoto Todoroki

Mao Noguchi as Tsuyu Asui

Naoki Tanaka as Eijiro Kirishima

Yugo Sato as Denki Kaminari (instagram)

Shinichi Hashimoto as Yuga Aoyama

Saaya Yamasaki as Momo Yaoyorozu

Nagato Okui as Minoru Mineta

Rin Matsubara as Fumikage Tokoyami (instagram)

Akari Kawakami as Kyoka Jiro (instagram)

Shin Ikeda as Hanta Sero

Yume Nagatoshi as Mina Ashido (instagram)

Keisuke Ohkubo as Mezo Shoji

Yuta Chatani as Ojiro

Sakaue Shoma as Sato

Other students

Marino Baba as Mei Hatsume (instagram) in musical 1, while in musical 4 Mirano Takei plays Hatsume Mei.

Daisuke Matsukawa as Hitoshi Shinso

Judai Shirakashi as Inasa (and Masaru Bakugou)

Mirano Takei as Camie and Hatsume Mei (only in musical 4)

Shunto Imai as Shishikura Seiji

Haruna Morodomi as Tatami Nakagame (and Inko Midoriya)

Akiyoshi Tsujimura as Shindo Yo

Villains

Raita as Tomura Shigaraki (instagram)

Kosuke Yonhara as Gran Torino and Giran (instagram)

Bishin Kawasumi as Stain

Yuta Osumi as Dabi

Anju Inami as Himiko Toga and Thirteen

Yusaku Kawasaki as Twice

Shin Koyanagi as Muscular

Daisuke Hosomi as All For One

Tasuku Yoshioka as Mr. Compress

Tanabe Ken as Magne

Kawashima Tatsuki as Spinner

Heroes

Yusuke Seto as Eraser Head (instagram)

Hiroaki Iwanaga as All Might Muscle form (instagram)

Yuki Okamoto as Present Mic and Tiger (instagram)

Yusuke Ueda as Endeavor (instagram)

Tasuku Yoshioka as Small Might from musical 2 onwards. He also plays Mr Compress and Yokumiru Mera. In musical 1, Tsuyoshi Hayashi played Small Might.

Kosuke Yonhara as Gran Torino and Giran (instagram)

Anju Inami as Himiko Toga and Thirteen

Ami Kiuchi as Midnight, Uwabami and Pixie-Bob

Changae as Best Jeanist and Moonfish (instagram)

Ohara Mayuko as Nana Shimura and Mandalay

Fukui Shota as Tensei Iida and Naomasa Tsukauchi

Ohara Mayuko as Ms Joke

Others

Inomata Rei and Ina Seiran as Kota

Haruna Morodomi as Inko Midoriya

Ohara Mayuko as Mitsuki Bakugou

Judai Shirakashi as Masaru Bakugou

enjoy!!

#my hero academia #bkdk #kiribaku #bnha #boku no hero academia #mha musical #bnha musical #resource #mine

[pikahlua]

I just got into Bnha a few months ago, and I wanted to ask...has Katsuki ever actually lost in the literal sense of the word?

He won against Todoroki, he couldn't beat All Might but he did pass his exam, he held off the villains until his rescue at Kamino Ward, he had holes poked into him by Shigaraki but he still managed to save Deku and later Best Jeanist.

On a more minor note he also wasn't present in the Class 1-A vs Mirio thing.

I think other than being unable to escape the Sludge Villain, being kidnapped, and his current state in the manga (which doesn't actually count since we all know he's going to get back up and kick ass) he doesn't actually have any major defeats.

All your metas are wonderful and I'd love to read that mastermeta that was mentioned in the asks and your thoughts on the sports festival if you ever write them ❤️

Well, yes, there's a big one you're forgetting it turns out. Deku vs Kacchan 1. If you count the final exam as a win, you must count DvK1 as a loss. It's the part that gives us his Starting Line, which is so instrumental to his character for the entire series.

But also, Katsuki wouldn't consider all of those wins, especially the one against Todoroki. It's a question of what you're defining as a win, and you can define him into winning or losing all of these moments if you so choose. And that's kind of important, since Katsuki is constantly grappling with what he thinks winning means. He is a paragon of a certain type of winning that many other characters use as a frame of reference, and his drive to win against all the odds is remarkable, but his arc is one that notably explores the many different meanings of winning.

What is true about all of them though is that Katsuki never gives up. Even in the ones where he may have wavered, in the end he never stopped struggling and he never lost hope. His fighting spirit never dies no matter the situation. And that's a big deal.

(And yes, I do believe Horikoshi consciously left Katsuki and Shouto out of Class 1-A vs Mirio precisely because they would complicate the lesson of what Mirio's victory teaches the rest of the class.)

#anon ask #ask pika #my hero academia manga spoilers #final showdown spoilers #katsuki bakugou #meta

[calciumcryptid]

lurker here, I just gotta ask, since ua is a point of extreme criticism in your bnha stories, what are your full opinions on both aizawa and nedzu (ik they're not the only 2, but their actions are a lot more influential at how ua runs things) since I believe those two are the reasons why ua is why it is in both canon and fanon stuff ive seen?

Isn't that a loaded question?

To get this out of the way I do not think Aizawa is a bad hero. He is shown to be a skilled combatant, has mastery over his quirk, and generally knows what he is doing on the field.

However, he is a dogshit teacher.

He routinely ignores his class in favor of sleep, he can't recognize signs of abuse and bullying among his students, he expels entire classrooms of students (more on that later), he shows at least an extent of favoritism because if we are to believe his expulsion record then why else is Bakugou and Mineta still enrolled, his logical ruses are pointless at best and cause trust issues at worth, and to be honest his teaching methods are shit judging by his admittance that Vlad King is a better teacher during the Joint-Training Arc.

Back to the expulsion point, is Aizawa aware that by his expulsion of entire classrooms of students he is effectively ruining their lives?

Japan places high values on education as both a country and a society. It is one of the most influential factors in a citizen's life as it affects both employment and socioeconomic growth.

Upon expelling a student, Aizawa has effectively left a black mark on their record. From a normal school, this could put them a minimum wage job for the rest of their life. From an elite hero school, this could make them jobless for the rest of their life. The idea that Aizawa expelled them only to re-enroll them later and for them to be grateful for it is either a disgustingly ignorant or intentionally malicious choice on Horikoshi's part.

While Aizawa may eventually remove that mark, he is still controlling students through fear by threatening them with essentially poverty.

That isn't even taking into account how many current or former students of him have mutant quirks, have darker skin, are LGBTQIA+ in some way, or other factors that would feed into societal discrimination.

Once again, he essentially threatens them with death for what? Not understanding what they're getting into when it comes to training to be a hero? No one knows what they are getting into becoming a hero or the sacrifices they'll have to make from physical strain, social exposure, and mental exhaustion.

He ultimately suffers from what most BNHA characters suffer from, misunderstanding what makes certain tropes work. He is supposed to be another closed off but secretly caring anime teacher, but what makes those characters work is the fact they aren't teaching in a classroom but rather outside of one in non-school circumstances.

As for Nezu, it is more complicated because we don't see as much as him or know as much about him as we do with Aizawa. What we do know is that he doesn't like humans and judging by UA and his actions as a principal he really seems hellbent on destroying the hero career and the humans within his care (the robots for the simulations and entrance exam, having teachers go all out for final exams, the crowding them all into dorms, the shit security towards the beginning). For him it is more a question of how he can be the principal.

#bnha #bnha critical #aizawa critical #nezu critical #ua critical #anonymous #ask

[bnhaobservation]

BNHA Observations, speculations and assorted info: The facts taking place during BNHA second year: July

So, in order to write my fic, I spend much time observing canon scenes, comparing the manga and the anime version, take note of details, translations and info in them as well as finding out how are some things called.

Since what I noticed/speculated/found out can be of use for other fic authors I thought to share as well.

OBSERVATIONS, SPECULATIONS AND ASSORTED INFO:

You might notice a special focus on the Todoroki family as all their birthdays and statuses are listed. That’s because this timeline was originally meant to focus solely on them and then I included info about the other characters.

LEGENDA:

BNHA: “Boku no Hero Academia” manga.

MOVIE 1: “Boku no Hero Academia The Movie ～Futari no HERO～” [僕 (ぼく) のヒーローアカデミア THE (ザ) MOVIE (ムービー) ～２人 (ふたり) の英雄 (ヒーロー) ～ My Hero Academia: Two Heroes]

SB: “Boku no Hero Academia: U.A. Hakusho (僕のヒーローアカデミア 雄英白書 Lit: “My Hero Academia: U.A. White Paper”)” called in English “My Hero Academia: School Briefs”

TIMELINE (JULY)

JULY 1: Todoroki Natsuo turns 19.

FIRST WEEK OF JULY (A WEEK AFTER THE STUDENTS DECIDED TO ORGANIZE THEMSELVES IN STUDY GROUPS - LIKELY MONDAY): Written part of the FIRST TERM FINAL EXAMS. [BNHA Chap 60. In Japan, during them, no regular classes are held so the same likely applies here too. Usually Japanese students are tested in English, math, Japanese, science, and social studies, plus health and physical fitness, home economics, music, and art. Also they usually last three days. If the same applies here this would mean they started on Monday and the practical was on Thursday. ]

FIRST WEEK OF JULY (LIKELY THURSDAY): Practical exam. Todoroki Shōto manages to pass it working in team with Yaoyorozu Momo. Todoroki Tōya, under the name of Dabi, along with Toga Himiko, joins the League of Villains. [BNHA Chap 60-68. The time is unclear here as the scene with the League of Villains might have happened the day after or even two days after as Shigaraki Tomura will meet Midoriya on Saturday... though it's also possible Shigaraki wandered for two days before meeting him.]

Pairing up in the practical exam are as follow:

Todoroki Shōto & Yaoyorozu Momo vs Aizawa Shōta/Eraser Head= WIN capturing Midoriya Izuku & Bakugō Katsuki vs Yagi Toshinori/All Might= WIN escaping Kaminari Denki & Ashido Mina vs Nezu= LOSES Uraraka Ochako & Aoyama Yūga vs Kurose Anan/Thirteen= WIN capturing Jirō Kyōka & Kōda Kōji vs Yamada Hizashi/Present Mic= WIN escaping Tokoyami Fumikage & Asui Tsuyu vs Ectoplasm WIN capturing Mineta Minoru & Sero Hanta vs Kayama Nemuri/Midnight= WIN escaping Shōji Mezō & Hagakure Tōru vs Snipe= WIN* Kirishima Eijirō & Satō Rikidō vs Ishiyama Ken/Cementos= LOSES Ojiro Mashirao & Īda Ten'ya vs Maijima Higari/Power Loader= WIN escaping

* In the manga it seems they won by escaping since they are outside the gate, though it's not really clear, in the anime they won by capturing

FIRST WEEK OF JULY (LIKELY FRIDAY): Eraser Head informs them they all will go to the Summer camp even if they failed the exam. [BNHA Chap 68. The scene with the League of Villains might have happened this day as well]

FIRST WEEK OF JULY, LIKELY SATURDAY (THE DAY AFTER): Todoroki Shōto goes to visit Todoroki Rei as he always does in his days off. The rest of class A minus Bakugō goes at the Kiyashi Ward Shopping Mall (木椰区ショッピングモール Kiyashi-ku Shopping Mall) to buy things for the summer camp. Midoriya and Shigaraki Tomura meet. [BNHA Chap 68-70, SB 2]

FOREST TRAINING CAMP ARC

SECOND WEEK OF JULY, MONDAY: Eraser Head tells the students they cancelled their usual accommodations and won’t reveal their destination until the day they depart. Shinsō Hitoshi starts being trained by him. [BNHA Chap 70]

THIRD WEEK OF JULY, AROUND THURSDAY: Tamakawa Sansa learns that someone saw Dabi entering in a building that didn’t have any tenants, the building being Shigaraki Tomura’s hideout. [BNHA Chap 83 It was two weeks before the summer camp attack]

TWO HEROES ARC

JULY, AROUND THE 20TH, POSSIBLY ON SATURDAY: Summer Break. Midoriya and All Might go to I-Island for the I-expo and meet Melissa Shield and her father, David Shield. Uraraka, Yaoyorozu and Jirō, who're there because Yaoyorozu's father received an invitation due to him holding some of I-expo sponsors' stocks and had two extra invites for her friends, meet Midoriya and they all end up at the place where Kaminari and Mineta are working. Īda, who received an invitation to go there due to his family being one of Heroes, meets with them as well. We're told the other girls from class A are also on the island but not with them. They then meet Kirishima who's there with Bakugō who got invited because he won the sport festival and allowed to bring a friend along, and Todoroki Shōto, who was there in place of his father, Endeavor. They all go at the party when Wolfram's group attack it. [MOVIE 1 The movie is clearly placed before the Summer training camp. Summer break in Japan starts around the 2th of August]

JULY (THE DAY AFTER), POSSIBLY SUNDAY: By dawn Wolfram's group is defeated. The Academy's exibit opens to the public. Some of class A kids will go to the pavillon where the academy's exibit is or so they planned. David Shield, from his hospital bed, talks to his daughter. [MOVIE 1]

TO BE CONTINUED…

#boku no hero academia #bnha observations

[barid-bel-medar]

I've noticed there's a small trend of fics that like to point out that Aizawa is flawed teacher and I'm excited. I'm old fan when there wasn't many bnha fics and even then most writers seemed to have a mindset "no matter what, Aizawa is always right in the end" whether it was him finding about ofa or something else. I'm not saying we should bash him or make him ooc monster, but I hope more writers are willing to show him as flawed man. They're doing that to other characters, why not him too?

I think this in part because as the series has kept going it's become more and more clear that he isn't some amazing teacher and like, a lot of the time he is wrong in how he does an action. Also the fact he's admitted Vlad King is the better teacher between them, plus it's in 1-A we've had multiple students fail things like finals and the licensing exam. Like in the licensing exam you can argue for Todoroki there's extenuating circumstances (Inasa), but Bakugou doesn't have the excuse. All of 1-B passes the licensing exam, and even during finals the only 1-B kid to fail is Monoma, who's canonically not a great test taker (I actually suspect here that he more likely failed the written versus the practical)

Also in a weird way the Endeavor arc helps also demonstrate that Aizawa isn't really viewed by the kids as a good teacher? Since Izuku goes to classmates (with All Might supervising) for help with Black whip, but also does seek pretty much immediate advice from Endeavor (and is given it after Endeavor just hears Izuku explain the situation)

#think before you speak #i know i keep using this tag even for things that aren't entirely about the fic #but honestly i'm trying to keep my shit out of character tags

[stillness-in-green]

Pair O' Green One Asks

For the purposes of this ask, I will, as requested, set aside my vast skepticism about if I'm going to like how Deku saves Shigaraki to simply say: Yes. Yes, of course Deku will save him. I don't doubt it for a single second. I'd say it boils down to two factors.

(Note that the second of these asks will see my Deku Negativity back in full force and hit the jump.)

1) Shonen Jump's tonal requirements:

One of SJ's three tentpole tenets is Victory, which means that, as his series' main character, Deku has to be Victorious in the end. It's not enough to beat a big villain in the second-to-last chapter; Deku's Victory has to be a win in his own context. His context, right now, is saving Shigaraki—in the broader sense, it's achieving the ideal of victory the series laid out all the way back in the Final Exams arc: Win By Saving, Save By Winning.

Regardless of what Gran Torino has to say about death as a form of salvation, I simply cannot see Deku having to kill Shigaraki as anything but a failure. I think we see the nod toward that, even, when Hawks gets up in front of a crowd of reporters and says that his killing Bubaigawara Jin "speaks to his lack of character."

Deku failing to save Shigaraki—whether because he is forced to kill him or because he stands by and lets Shigaraki sacrifice himself for some joint goal—is Deku failing to achieve Victory in BNHA's overarching thematic context, which means BNHA fails to meet one of the Big Three Shonen Jump Golden Rules.

I'm not going to say that it could never happen? I certainly don't read enough Shonen Jump manga to make a statement that sweeping. I will say, however, that the big example that leaps to mind of a Shonen Jump protagonist suffering defeat at the end of his manga is Death Note, and I think you could make a decent argument that Death Note actually does support the three Golden Rules by showing what happens when people fail to live up to them. Light drops the ball on Friendship, and, having done so, is unable to achieve Victory despite all his Hard Work.

I don't see that happening in BNHA.

2) BNHA's genre inspirations:

Classically speaking, American superheroes don't kill their villains. You see it happen sometimes, when the medium is in its edgier phases, but not for no reason is one of the long-standing Amecomi questions, "Why doesn't Batman kill the Joker?" Because of the roles those comics fix their characters in and the ethics they purport to uphold, people called "superheroes" cannot be casually meting out death outside the justice system.

This is why Hawks' killing of Twice is such a massive deal: because it cuts against the grain of everything his society believes about heroes. If killing villains is the answer here, then Hawks will have beat Deku to that punch long before the end of the manga rolls around, and that's simply incompatible with the opening chapter's promise that Deku will become The Greatest Hero.

Further, Shigaraki is not positioned simply as the villain to defeat, but also as a victim to be saved. Superhero media might sometimes have Significant Failures—especially when it comes to the famously low life expectancies of your average Superhero Comic Love Interest—but failures like that serve to motivate heroes or change them in some drastic way that will shift how they approach heroism going forward in their story.

Looking at Horikoshi's favorite, Spider-Man fails to save people like Uncle Ben or Gwen Stacy at the beginning of his story, not at the climax of it.(*) If Deku dramatically fails to save the person he has dedicated himself to saving, that's the kind of thing that would mark BNHA as either a prequel or a tragedy, when plainly neither of those is the case.

Horikoshi has explicitly described Shigaraki as Deku's greatest challenge. How can Deku ever become the greatest hero if he fails?

As to how it's going to happen? What specifically is Deku going to do? That, I couldn't really speculate about without diving right back into negativity (see e.g. the ask reply beneath this), and also I'm just not big into trying to seriously predict my media. I'd much rather dig into what it offers than try to guess where it's going!

* Insomuch as cape comics have permanent climaxes, of course. But just for reference, Gwen Stacy was killed ten years into what is now Spider-Man's sixty year publication history.

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I’ve got a fandom friend (hi, Nal) that’s been saying this about Deku for a while now, so you’re definitely not alone in the sentiment!  Personally, I wish that fandom had ever come up with a snappy way to talk about Canon Sues, because while I’m very sympathetic to the view that there’s a lot of unexamined sexism in the way fandom used/uses accusations of Sueism against female characters in ways it much more seldom wields against male characters, I do also think Canon Sue main characters are phenomena worth examining.

As regards Deku, I could have given him the benefit of the doubt for a long time for how many of his fights had mixed results (Muscular; Shigaraki at Jakku) or required outside help (Stain; Overhaul), but since the Edgy Deku material, Deku’s Sue qualities have been on the rise in a very bad way, especially since one of the big indicators of Sueishness is to what degree a character makes the entire world seem to rotate around them, with the narrative’s ability to sympathize with other characters given a hard limit by how receptive those characters are to befriending the prospective Sue.

Also too, of course, “His flaw is that he tries too hard,” has always been way, way up there on the ranking of Mary Sue Test Flaws That Aren’t Actually Flaws.  It’s not an impossible flaw to write well (Steven Universe’s does so fantastically via its titular character), and certainly there are lots of ways the Edgy Deku arc could have gone that would have done a far better job of selling it. In the story as we have it, though, Deku gets consistently bailed out from having to face the consequences of his over-exertion and would-be-martyrdom, and having flaws you don’t suffer the logical consequences of is a defining Sue trait.

And yeah, there’s plenty of room to talk about what traits you want to put in a character who’s intended to be Aspirational instead of #Relatable; it’s kind of the defining difference between e.g. Superman and Spider-Man!  An aspirational character can get away with not having a catalogue of faults and weaknesses, because they’re intended as paragons, as larger-than-life figures readers can admire and emulate, but it’s not some awful crime if readers sometimes don’t get all the way there, because with aspirational characters, it’s about the journey, not the destination.  All Might, as he presented himself in-universe, was an aspirational figure.  

Deku, however, was plainly intended as a relatable character instead.  Setting aside Horikoshi’s self-admitted fondness for Spider-Man, Deku was The Everyman, the one who didn’t have a power to start with because the readers don't have powers.  Deku was more emotional; there were aspects of his behavior one could point to as real blind spots and self-destructive patterns that the narrative was on track to address.  He had to struggle more, he was young and green and he couldn’t do all this stuff on his own.

He couldn’t before.  Unfortunately, now, it seems that he can do it all on his own just fine, but that screws the established teamwork narratives—as well as the series’ long-running interrogations of its own constructed society—which is why God Mode Deku feels like such a stinging let-down.  That’s on top of being unfathomably boring because of the issues about him never facing real consequences.  Hell, these days, I’d be hard-pressed to say he even faces real challenges!

Deku didn't have to be a Canon Sue, but god knows it's where he's wound up.

Thanks for the asks, anons!

#bnha #no. 2 green #deku critical #bnha critical #bnha endgame #stillness has salt #stillness answers

[violetlunette]

This is the anon who you once called "big brain anon". I just had an idea why Bakugo fans can't see how bad his behavior is: you know how snakes can see infrared light, but we can't, and bees can see ultraviolet light, but we can't? Theory: modern fandoms literally "can't see cruelty unless it's inflicted by either an Oppressor or an Authority Figure." Thus, since Bakugo is just a student, fandoms literally CAN'T see the pain he inflicts on others, so they think we're "mad at him for no reason."

Elements of Anti Bakugou, Bakugou Critcal, BNHA Narrative critical below. If any of these offend you, please move on.

I can’t say this is what’s going on for sure, but I don’t think it’s not that they can’t see the pain Bakagou inflicts, it’s just they don’t see it as a big deal. Part of that is because of the writing; very few scenes show Bakagou is in the wrong. And the wrong actions are usually glanced over, or used to further Bakagou’s pain. This is narrative manipulation in action. Take the Final Exam Arc; Bakagou attacking Izuku out of nowhere, just because the latter was talking reason was wrong. I haven’t even seen Bakagou’s stans justify that scene, or say Bakagou was right in doing so. However, they don't focus on that. What they focus on is what the story focuses on; Bakagou’s inner turmoil and conflict. Izuku is hurt, but the story doesn’t focus on that or the memories it most likely brought up. And since the narrative doesn’t make a big deal out of it, why should they? If Bakagou’s actions actually did any damage, then the story would have focused on it. We very rarely—if ever—see the consequences of Bakagou’s actions, and when we do, we only see how they affect Bakgou, not others. Throw on top of that that literally every other main character is singing him praises and justifying even his worse moments, and here we are. Because of this, it's easy to forget that his actions did have an effect and hurt others. So, yeah, in a way some—and sadly the most vocal of Bakagou’s stans—might be a touch blind to his actions, but the blame for that mainly lies in how the story is told. Therefore, the blame is on the Mangaka, the editors, and whoever else is involved with the storytelling.

#not saying you're wrong #just got my own theory #Are you a social studies major? #A lot of your asks seem to involve the subject #anti Bakugou #Bakugou critical #bnha critical #bnha #mha #anti katsuki bakugou #big brain anon #anti bnha narrative

[meeko-mar]

Bnha 362 thoughts:

It honestly doesn't make sense narratively for him to be *dead* dead

in one aspect alone, let's consider;

Bakugou's entire arc? is FROUGHT with loss. Losing. Failure. He has gone through life thinking ONE thing, and then getting proven WRONG every step of the way.

He gets captured by Sludge villain.

He loses to Izuku on the first training day in UA.

He gets DESTROYED by All Might and is forced to work with Izuku during their finals.

He gets rescued(in front of Izuku no less) by All Might at the USJ incident.

He gets targeted and kidnapped at the training camp. Gets used as a pawn during AFO's fight with AM, rescued by his friends(including Izuku who had come up with the plan.) All Might loses his power due to this incident, and Katsuki internalizes it.

He feels neutered under his internship with BJ, and feels like he falls behind while others had so much more exp on their internships.

He FAILS his provisional liscense exams.

He realizes that All Might gave Izuku his power and feels unworthy.

He wins against Izuku at ground Beta, and after that, things look a little more "in his favor", like the 1-Av 1-B exercise, getting his Provisional License...but then the war happens and he is back to "losing" by getting stabbed (I count it as a loss b/c it was a potentially fatal injury and he wasn't able to triumph over it properly)

The next big battle is THIS ONE and. Well. We all know what has been happening, and what has HAPPENED.

Katsuki has now, on top of his long history of losing, failing, and having every one of his principles he started with challenged and shut down, after finally UNDERSTANDING IT and making choices to be better, including making up with Izuku himself, faced the ULTIMATE loss, and DIED in battle.

The end.

EXCEPT NO. THAT CAN'T BE IT. it can't be a final death, it doesn't make SENSE.

I mean, it's not even a NOBLE death. If Horikoshi wanted to go "Noble Death" with it, he would have done so when Katsuki got skewered making the sacrificial play. But he can't do that again, because he already did that move!

Izuku isn't even there to see it.

So this isn't that.

And Bakugou, whatever he started as, has become an essential part of this story, a deuteragonist instead of an antagonist. His story is intricately tied to Izuku's, and we all SEE that plainly in the canon, and how deeply important to each other they are. Horikoshi himself said something about coming to really like him as a character.

What the heck would be the point in killing him off so unceremoniously?

Before Katsuki actually has a chance to truly win(and save)?

Katsuki's arc STILL doesn't feel complete.

And it's as if the Antis are getting what THEY want, and his arc is ALL punishment for what he's done, instead of truly rising above it(he's come quite a long way, but to truly triumph he should be able to make all the changes he has, acknowledge the damage he's done, and then truly begin to flourish.

But he's still taking the L and getting brutalized by AFO.

He literally STILL asked, as he is DYING, "Can I keep up with you Izuku?"

He has barely landed a hit on AFO in all this and in his "final" moments thinks about Izuku and how he WANTS to keep up with him.

This is horribly incomplete.

So unless we SOMEHOW get a vestige or ghost of Katsuki performing final acts in this war that turn the tides, but don't get him back, which would suck...

Then my bets are on SOME WAY getting him back via resuscitation, or the Nitroglycerin Revival theory, something to do with the Second's Quirk, bringing him back.

We could argue then about the effect that has on stakes, or if that would be just a deus ex machina ending, but

Bottom line is that I feel like leaving such an important character, such a POPULAR character as *dead* dead, without at least having a true victory moment to close out his own story....LET ALONE one shared with the protagonist whom he has been codependently developed alongside the entire time...without at least making a single difference in the final battle, doesn't make narrative sense. When Hori said he wants to do right by this character, and that what he came up with should be pleasing to all fans.

SOMETHING IS STILL MISSING in Katsuki's entire arc and I don't know, personally, I don't think he'll stay dead?? I'm not sure how I want it to happen, but...

There's been so much build up, there are talks that haven't even occurred between them to our knowledge. There's LOOSE ENDS. There's a lack of fulfillment to Katsuki's story if you take this as the end.

Yes, his challenge through the story was to learn to SAVE and that will be important, but he hasn't even reached the climax on THAT yet, and I don't consider what happened in the war arc and retrieval arc to be that end-all be-all climax.

This can't be the end of Katsuki Bakugou. (and I'm hoping its not just gonna be some Jedi Ghost shenanigans)

#I would deeply deeply prefer Izu and BAku to fight side by side and BOTH SURVIVE THE WAR PLZ #bakudeku #bnha spoilers #bnha 362 #Katsuki Bakugou #just thoughts #We still need Izuku's feelings too #and that is gonna HURT #please just let him be ok SOMEHOW #ahhhh #if they end up split on different planes I am STILL GONNA BE DEPRESSO #wonderduo

[princess-of-the-corner]

i don't think they're ever gonna explain that but like holy shit her spine. i mean her everything basically and im not sure if that helmet is gonna add to or subtract from the damage but just. yikes.

YEAH

Like.

I keep wanting to compare it to bnha because I was just watching clips from the final exam arc.

While most of those characters don't have some magical durability, the series as a whole has had this be /normal/. Everyone is like this, everyone works on Comic Book Physics and will be mostly fine crashing through buildings. So you're not jarred when Izuku gets thrown and slams into a bus so hard he bounces.

But ML has kept the fighting and combat like that pretty much just to the Magical Heroes/Villains who are assumed to have Magical Durability compared to regular civilians. So seeing that happen to Marinette is HORRIFYING

#deflagration spoilers