#demon souls lore

[partikron]

The Souls Lore Community: Someone Should Be Studying This.

As I was watching SmoughTown's most recent Elden Ring lore video, I started thinking about the lore hunting of Souls games as a social phenomenon, and I genuinely hope this community is studied by psychologists and social scientists someday, because it's worthy of research.

Normally the rise of FromSoftware's games from relative obscurity to worldwide fame is what people might be interested in, but the dedicated lore community online and especially on YouTube is especially fascinating to me. Dozens of YouTube channels are specifically dedicated to collecting, compiling and deciphering every scrap of lore and storytelling available in these games with a deliberately obfuscated storyline, and hundreds of thousands of people watch and consume this content, not simply satisfied with playing the game, but joining in on the search, the debate and discovery.

I'm reminded of Jacob Geller's absolutely stellar video "Shadow of the Colossus and the Search for the Last Great Secret", and I feel like the modern Souls lore community is a convergently evolved social phenomenon to the "Secret Seekers" on those old forums trying to tease out the last secrets of Fumito Ueda's masterpiece (Hidetaka Miyazaki was directly influenced by Ueda's work, so this makes sense).

People will evaluate Souls lore with greater skepticism than I see most people use for their political or personal beliefs, and the lore debates I've seen in person often feel like academic discourse more than your average nerds discussing their favorite game, so I suppose all I have left to say is "why is no one studying this???"

#elden ring #elden ring dlc #elden ring lore #dark souls #dark souls lore #demon souls #demon souls lore #bloodborne #bloodborne lore #soulsborne #souls lore #video games #fromsoftware #fromsoftware games

[indexvirus]

“As YoU cAN SEe IT waS REmoVEd SO it’S NOt cAnoN!”

- Me, and my maidenless behaviour

#after a long argument with the elden ring fandom #recognizing your faults is part of healing process #right #elden ring #dark souls #demon souls #bloodborne #sekiro #lore #theories #i'd call them headcanons at this point lol

[asphodelflowers]

Begging Soulsborne fans to actually think critically about the games they enjoy instead of just memorizing 15-hour lore videos

#lore is fun but for the love of god please learn what “subtext” and “authorial intent” are #media analysis is so fun #why do these people insist on avoiding it at all costs? #demons souls #dark souls #bloodborne #sekiro: shadows die twice #elden ring

[girl4music]

I think what gets me most is the “I am a demon” and “there’s a demon inside me” contradiction. Spike owns up to his own evil behaviour. Angel doesn’t. Spike always owns up to his own actions and choices but yet he is not the vampire seeking a redemption.

Spike takes accountability.

Angel says it’s someone else.

Sure Angel feels guilty for the things that Angelus has done but the problem is it’s not HIM that did them. So how can it be a redemption story? It isn’t. It’s an absolution story. So long as the man and the monster are separated, it cannot be a mission of redemption.

If Angelus was the one who was making amends for the things he has done… then it would be a redemption. But that never happens. Angelus doesn’t give a shit. He revels in the damage and pain he causes. He loves it. There’s no morality in the man. He is just a monster through and through. Nothing else.

I do not understand how a guy who is a whole ass other fucking person has to pay the consequences for some other guy’s actions and choices. It’s not his problem so it’s not his fault. He just makes it that way.

The only reason ‘AtS’ works is because Angel feels responsible for Angelus’ 500+ years of carnage but he shouldn’t because Angel is not Angelus and vice versa.

Spike on the other hand chooses to be ensouled even when soulless. It should be impossible for him to feel any remorse whatsoever. He shouldn’t be capable of empathy or free will if he isn’t capable of selfless love.

But that’s just not how it works with him at all. Does the chip train him to be this way? No, I don’t think so because even before that he still can go against his own demonic nature. Yes, for selfish reasons but nevertheless… he shouldn’t be able to choose at all. His evil demon should control and rule him just the same as it does with Angelus. There should be no difference. No leeway whatsoever. No morality.

That’s if the lack of soul is the factor.

It’s clearly not.

He just acts like a selfish and warped person with a screw loose every now and again. He doesn’t act like the devil incarnate has taken over his entire identity.

Redemption truly only works when you’re the same entity when evil as you are when good. If you are literally a different entity… then it doesn’t and it can’t because “I don’t understand why I did this” and “I didn’t do this but I feel responsible” are not the same.

You can feel responsible for something someone else has done but that doesn’t mean that you should. If you did literally do them and have actively stopped doing those things out of your own volition - different story.

It has to be your choice. You can’t be compelled. Redemption doesn’t and cannot work that way.

This is the fundamental flaw of ‘Angel the Series’.

Separating and differentiating the man from the monster by way of “he has a conscience now”.

HE doesn’t have a conscience. HE just has his identity back. He’ll lose it again when his “conscience” goes bye bye. How can THAT work as a redemption story?

You can say you’re not that person anymore. But that’s not a literal statement. You are still that person but you’ve chosen not to be. You’ve chosen to change. If you can’t choose. If you’re forced into changing … then it’s not on you because you’re not that person.

When the soul is a factor - it’s not choice. It’s compelling. It’s forcing the person to change. This would be a problem for both Angel and Spike if Spike did not choose to change while he was soulless. The very reason he gets and now has a soul is the very same reason why he doesn’t actually need one. He fought for his soul so he could be a better person.

He already was simply because chose to fight for it. Angelus never ever makes that same distinction. Ever. Angel does. But Angel shouldn’t have ever had to because Angel is literally an entirely different entity. He shares his body with a demon. He isn’t that demon.

His hands drove the car but “he” was not the driver.

So it’s not a redemption because “he” doesn’t need to be redeemed. “He” is not the one that needs redemption because “he” is not the one that is evil.

#buffy the vampire slayer #angel the series #angel #angelus #david boreanaz #spike #james marsters #soul lore #vampire #demon #redemption #contradiction

[maedrosreforging]

*Acts of goodness are not always wise, and acts of evil are not always foolish, but regardless we shall always strive to be good" - Martyr Logarius. Bloodborne.

Art: stained glass like.

By: Maedrosreforging

#bloodborne art #bloodborne #bloodborne memes #bloodborne micolash #bloodborne lore #dark souls #demon souls #dark souls 3 #dark souls art #dark souls fanart #dark sun gwyndolin #fromsoft fanart #fromsoft games

[t4tdexter]

if a person can become a demon why can a person not become an angel what do u think humans are inherently evil do u think that given free will man will universally tend toward selfishness and malice oh my godddd you’re so wrong and boring oh my goddddd

#like biblically speaking neither is possible. people are people and angels y demons are their own kind of guy #and angels can become demons and demons in certain circumstances can regain their angelic status but humans have the gift of always bein #human no matter their sins. but if we’re going there. and letting evil corrupt human souls into demons which is utter nonsense. why can good #ppl not become angels it makes noooo sense. and on top of it u try to tell me all demons are corrupt human souls?!? dumb. and what happens #when an angel gets corrupted? it becomes a deomin right? no! it becomes human?!?!? fuck me in a basket. so humans have no upward mobility #u are stuck either as a human soul or a demon. u could become and vampire or a ghost or whatever but ultimately u stay human at ur core. #and angels can become human and therefore also demons. so really angels have the most mobility here ? the most free will? fr? #who greenlit this messy messy lore

[jeandejard3n]

Bloodborne: Yharnam Sunset

#bloodborne #dark souls #dark souls 2 #dark souls 3 #dark souls 4 #bloodborne 2 #demon souls #demon souls 2 #hunter's dream #yharnam #yharnam sunset #dark souls rp #bloodborne rp #bloodborne the old hunters #bloodborne art #bloodborne fanart #bloodborne fanfiction #bloodborne good hunter #bloodborne hunter #bloodborne headcanons #bloodborne lore #bloodborne comic #dark souls remastered #dark souls art #dark souls solaire #dark souls fanart #dark souls lore #sekiro #soulsborne #soulslike

[merisaphire]

Soooo, jeremy huh...from tf2? Haha..so basically a headcanon where he has a white heart soul filled whit Hope, but it tends to be filled to much DT by this demonic hatred who feeds of his Hope and Control, so basically jeremy tends to get corrupted/controlled by this unknown entity, only way to snap out of it is if you genuine feed him human meat and he will listen like a home trained dog- can i borrow a new skin for jeremy? I think IT has stretched it to much and now..its almoste just gone-

#tf2 #team fortress 2 #tf2 fanart #tf2 design #jeremy #red scout #red scout fanart #artwork #my art #art #digital art #digital artwork #character design #design #character #au #my au #headcanon #human souls #soul of hope #tf2 red scout #posessed oc #possesed #demonic entity #demonic #lore #fandom #tf2 jeremy

[cryptidwithaninternetconnection]

(Sorry if I’m slow to respond, I got that CST swagger along with chronic eepyness, so I’m sometimes asleep when people spin around on my blog)

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Ignoring my brother and jamming out to Valley of Shadows

Be nice, I’m tired

Dni: proship, homophobic, racist, etc

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​Qīngsè the Weasel demon

My character, Dark:

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#dark talking #dark lore #DarkLMK RP #lego monkie kid oc #lego monkie kid #I’m also found on the Red Son RP acc :D #also the creator #Cryptid IRL #Cryptid Lore #Cryptids Keepers #Character Nell #Soul creature #the forgotten creation #Qīngsè the Weasel demon #anti proship #dni proship #light at the edge of the world #my art #Cryptid asks #Outfits for cryptid

[dizzified]

WHAT WOLFY POSTS MORE TIOM OCS, CRAZY

Umumummumu when when when the when

My favorite guy ever that ever has ever, Synth, a goofy chaos-infected Born Darkone with a sonic boom for a voice.

Oh, and he also has the power of onomatopoeia, basically manifesting words into physical effects, of which he once demonstrated by accidentally electrocuting himself by firing an electric shot into a body of water.

Not smart but he's trying, atleast give him that.

Making everyone around him and himself go deaf, bro is so hard of hearing.

#tiom #the island of mezaai #born darkone #blue fire #chaos infected #silly powers #hard of hearing #actually stupid #he's my goober #he's got blue hair and pronouns #literally stealing everyone pronoun #devours your soul #wolf #demon #oc lore #oc art #character art #character reference #animal art #digital art #art #animals #best paws i've done fr

[onikiribattousai]

To be honest, sebby in my fanfic still remains the same, but I put angsty stuff in it because I like angst and hurt/comfort content that features this one hell of trash demon butler

#sebastian michaelis #black butler #kuroshitsuji #meme #fanfic lore #let this trash demon cry #obviously that most of the fic takes place after he ate o!ciel's soul #sadbastian

[katyspersonal]

#fromsoftware #soulsborne #bloodborne #elden ring #dark souls #technically demon souls count too but i've noticed almost no one i knew played this one #this is what being exclusive does to a mf #one of its versions is on outdated platform and another is on platform only 20 people on planet Earth could afford smh #but yes still we can count this just in case! sorry if it looked like i legit forget it #polls #as for me i am on the 'they're basically canon' board #with the 'sea' thing supposedly connecting the realms and chester being from yharnam #like it is not just reoccuring themes but actual part of the lore that the worlds intersect #but plenty of people will be territorial abt the game(s) and that's valid too!

[girl4music]

Can men be lesbians? In reality… probably not since a “lesbian” is wholly defined as a female homosexual.

In fiction? Hell yes because fiction is representation.

The thing with being a lesbian is that it’s not just a sexuality. It’s a whole damn aesthetic and some actual characters that identify as male in art/entertainment do have that aesthetic and possess the qualities and traits of what you would typically have of a lesbian. It’s a stereotype, don’t get me wrong. But it’s used often enough in fiction and art/entertainment that it’s a thing. Take Spike for example. Now, to me, his whole vibe just screams out “repressed lesbian” because he undergoes an entire character arc of performing something he thinks he should or must be but actually isn’t. That of an evil thing only. A beast. A monster. But when push comes to shove is really just a hapless, scorned pathetic loser with the kindest and most compassionate heart. In his human lifetime as William Pratt he gets nicknamed “William the Bloody” not because he kills people but because he kills poetry. He is a “bloody awful poet” and he takes that insult to heart so much to the point where he rebrands himself when he becomes a vampire. With the help of Druscilla who sires him and moulds his world anew, he turns his unfortunate nickname into one that actually is because he kills people. And he becomes “William the Bloody” because he is an evil thing only. A beast. A monster. But one that only exists and is created because he was treated so cruelly himself and not because his inherent nature and identity is evil because he is now a vampire - a demon with no soul.

Why does this make me view him as a repressed lesbian? What does any of this have to do with queerness at all? Well, in much the same way that Buffy’s Slayerism is a metaphor/allegory for being or feeling queer, Spike’s vampirism is a metaphor/allegory for performing that of which doesn’t fit quite right and is only a costume one is wearing to protect themselves from feeling like nothing but a weakling and a loser. Very much like Willow. A performance and projection of evil but is nowhere near that in actuality. Spike represses a part of him that is the foundation for everything that he is and that he becomes; William Pratt. And with the help of The Fanged Four fashions an identity that is only the armor for his vulnerability. It all depends on what external influence he has how he acts because he is like a wounded animal incarcerated. Animals are genuinely the most passionate and loyal of creatures - but they do bite you if you hurt them or something they care about. They will do what they can to survive, feed off the blood and the meat and marrow of other creatures and are insanely and fiercely protective of their own.

‘Fool For Love’ practically tells you everything you need to know about Spike through his backstory because his backstory is HIS backstory. It doesn’t belong to some separate human entity that died that he, as a demon, now possesses and assumes the identity of. William IS that of the same entity of that of which IS Spike. They are the same conscious entity. Spike IS the human and IS the demon simultaneously. Everything we get with Spike is informed by William and everything we get with William creates Spike. The “evil demon” that “sets up shop” in the body doesn’t exist because it is not a possession. It’s an evolution. Which is why when he gets his soul, we don’t get William Pratt back. We just get Spike with a soul. No different from the entity that was when there wasn’t one besides a change of perspective in morality. But very much the same exact person as soulless Spike because the soul is just an internal moral compass. It’s just a conscience and nothing more than that really. However, the inherent nature and identity that was William is so strong and so encompassing within Spike (because he is the same entity as William) that it was possible Spike could become good without a soul. It would be extremely difficult for him yes, because he didn’t know the difference between right and wrong on his own. He didn’t have Jiminy Cricket within him. But he did possess a human psyche that was good. His consciousness is what would have helped him eventually evolve into a selfless and empathetic being because he already possessed those traits and qualities anyway. He already was capable of doing good just as much as he was capable of doing evil and were he treated with kindness and respect from the Scoobies - would have had more opportunity to override his demonic nature and cultivate his human. And I absolutely refuse to believe that he couldn’t because as far as I’m concerned, the only damn thing that made the difference was who was in his company.

And besides from all of that - just fucking LOOK AT HIM. The bleach blonde hair, the nail polish, the eyes. Tell me he doesn’t look like the most feminine male there is and the most masculine female there is. I’m sorry to involve the stereotypes but you cannot tell me that this is not what they were going for with his characterization when they began to conceive him.

#buffy the vampire slayer #spike #william pratt #wiliam the bloody #james marsters #repressed lesbian #performance #authenticity #soul lore #human #vampire #demon #characterization #character representation #character development

[doom-nerdo-666]

You know the saying that you die twice? First when you physically die, second when you're forgotten.

And i'm the kind of guy who thinks Doom's demons could always be more demonic, stranger or attach themselves to certain concepts.

I guess the Forgotten Ones could've been souls of those who were literally forgotten.

Like if a Lost Soul is the soul of someone completely forgotten (not just from memories, even from their grave being destroyed, all their remains unpreserved, no documentation at all etc), they evolve into a stronger variation being a Forgotten One.

Imagine in a Doom game with destructible props where you can destroy even graves or corpses and you see certain Lost Souls being buffed into Forgotten Ones.

#doom #doom 3 #id software #resurrection of evil #demon #lost soul #forgotten one #idea #lore

[mintygreencake]

Fuck it, showing my Dnd OCs because my campaign is coming up again and I adore these two

#dnd #dnd oc #dnd character #dnd charcter art #dnd paladin #dnd warlock #dnd wood elf #dnd half elf #dating a warlock while veing a paladin and a preacher is wild 💀 #getting killed by your lover after being brainwashed by their mother and then realizing while your dying is crazy 💀 #then coming back but your stuck in your own mind while the demon you sold your soul to takes control of your body is hella wild 😭 #the lore of these two is just out of pocket #love my lil gay men tho #doomed yaoi

[quietwingsinthesky]

Still bothered by Azazel possessing a reaper. How tf did you do that, old man.

#the power of gay love I guess. anything for his boytoy (John) #I know it’s probably just like. early seasons lore clashing with later stuff. but still. annoys me. #is Azazel just special. is he just a special little guy. #or was it like. specifically the power of the deal that did it. #how much power does making a deal give a demon anyway. #doesn’t Crowley say in s5 that they can do things with a deal that they couldn’t otherwise #how does that work. is it specifically the exchange of a human soul (power source) or is it something else that allows that #and is it the soul itself or the transfer of it. #I want ANSWERS (I will never get any) #Jensen could have made his show about this. he could have made a show just for me answering my questions about the logistics of spn #hey on another note why do angels even need consent #is it just for the drama. the vibes. #did god nerf them. #and it’s not even like. actual consent. coerced consent works just as well. #so it’s a letter of the law thing. not the spirit. so like. is it literally just someone saying the words ‘yeah take me my body is ready’ #that enables them to get in there? #SO MANY THINGS I WILL NEVER GET ANSWERS ABOUT FUCK #spn