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azure-firecracker · 2 years
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Luz and Hunter? Hollow Mind is still on the brain from yesterday. Not that it ever leaves.
Oh I love them sm and I think I’ve decided that Hunter’s a Six.
What’s interesting about Hollow Mind is that Hunter and Luz are both « Head Types » on the Enneagram, meaning the primary emotion they’re dealing with is fear, and they parallel each other in this episode because they’re both types that repress or deny their fear, and in Hollow Mind, both of them have to face reality.
Luz is an Enneagram Seven, and even though Sevens are ruled by fear, they usually repress it because what Sevens really fear is being unhappy, so unhealthy Sevens often live in this idealized world where everything is great because they’re afraid of the real one. Luz is experiencing a little bit of that here: she’s convinced that if she can find this one thing that proves Belos is evil, it’ll fix everything, even though reality says otherwise.
Hunter, on the other hand, as a Six, is inclined to be in tune with the scary parts of reality, even live his life led by the fear that reality causes, which he does. But Hunter spends a lot of time in disintegration, meaning he’s taken on the unhealthy traits of an Enneagram Three. This means he’s ignoring his fear and reality, similarly to Luz, in favor of being successful in the eyes of Belos. He’s convinced that if he proves himself to Belos, all will be well.
This episode forces them both to confront the reality of just how terrifying Belos is. Hunter especially really comes into his own here, as he connects more to his core type and begins to focus some of his fear on protecting others (namely Luz) as he becomes more aware of it.
Anyway love these two, love this episode!
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I'm curious how you perceive Luka in the show. I love what you've been doing with Luka in "one does not love breathing", with accentuating personality traits that we've seen evidence of in the show - Luka lying to Marinette about not knowing Ladybug and Chat Noir's identities, and not speaking up in Ephemeral about knowing Chat's identity, even though it was pertinent to Ladybug's plan (I wasn't too happy about that plan, but it's not relevant here), seem like the inspiration for Luka's whole "stay quiet about what I know because if I rock the boat it could cause harm" stance in your fic. The show didn't really make it clear why Luka made those decisions, but through your Luka's actions, I can better see what might have been going through Luka's head in the show.
My own feelings towards Luka have always been... frustrating. He's a nice, kind guy, no doubt, with most of what we saw of him in seasons 2 and 3 were just him being selflessly enamored with Marinette, but without any of the negative feelings that I'd normally expect from anyone who's pining over an unrequited love. I can sort of see why he was popular for that - he's about as unproblematic of a dream boyfriend as you could get - but I just couldn't look at his depictions and reactions in the show and make him into a full person, with his own thoughts, feelings, problems, and complex internal emotional world, especially since he mostly seemed to exist for Marinette. The big standout during that period that helped to develop him further was that 30 second cameo where he interacted with his sister, since it showed his feelings and interactions with someone else he cared about.
I did get a lot more from him in season 4, with him being frustrated and hurt about Marinette vanishing on him all the time, even if he still took it insanely well. I loved seeing that he can have negative feelings for his own sake, not just for Marinette's, and that he has some emotional baggage of his own, with his mom refusing to mention who his dad was. I still have struggled with understanding him at times - like trying to figure out what he was thinking that prompted him to directly lie to Marinette when she asked him whether he knew hers and Chat's identities - but they do show some more complex character traits, even if I'm not completely sure of what they are. Though I like your idea of what character trait prompted him to do that.
Anyway, I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on what makes Luka tick in the show. I don't see many of analyses of him that I agree with - either they're overly negative and ascribe some form of malice or abuse to his actions (which is nonsense, Luka doesn't have a mean bone in his body), or they're overly positive, and put a spin on his actions as being more wholly virtuous than I think is warranted (like the whole "he sacrificed his honesty in Wishmaker because it would freak Marinette out if he answered her question truthfully, he's so selfless, only thinking of what's best for her" thing).
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*cracks knuckles* buckle up breathers and breatheren, it's luka analysis time.
to start off, the show doesn't do the greatest job with consistency. sometimes its own characters will be ooc, especially marinette and adrien. in dearest family, she despairs over stealing galette when she's never had an issue with it before, and adrien dates marinette without telling her is identity in cat blanc (something i really don't think is consistent with his character but w/ever). if you see an inconsistency in my analysis of luka, it might be because of the show's flawed depiction of his character.
that being said, i knew the minute luka learned ladybug and chat noir's identities and decided to do NOTHING that he was an enneagram type 9, just like me. way to put me back on my enneagram shit again. I even have him typed as a 9 in my miraculous enneagram post if you're interested in that.
i liked luka fine in the show until wishmaker, when they finally gave him potential. he then became one of my favorite characters because he became interesting. you look at him on the outside and you see a guy who's easy to get along with, understands everyone's points of view, and will lend a listening ear when you need him. these are what make him such a nice person and probably why everyone in the show likes him. i mean, marinette broke up with him after lying to him for quite some time and still didn't tell him anything, and he comforted her with a hug because he could tell she was going through it. after wishmaker, it is very clear he is afraid of rocking any boat he's in because he's actually really afraid of causing conflict. for luka, conflict = separation (exemplified by his parents' relationship), and if he is separated from people he cares about, he will be alone.
luka is someone who is always trying to make connections with people by understanding them. he likes to listen to everyone's "inner melodies," which i think is just lukaspeak for comprehending people in depth and seeing their perspective. i truly think he gets stuck in other people's perspectives rather than his own, as evidenced by how he refused to speak up about ladybug's plan in ephemeral and how he gently guided marinette to adrien by telling her "knowing the whole other side of someone helped me love them more." it's my opinion that luka thinks he's less important than the people he cares about, and so in a sense "goes to sleep" to his own wants, needs, feelings and opinions. this is why he doesn't tell marinette and adrien the truth in the show, and what i expanded on in odnlb; luka really just did not know what to do, and before he knew it six years had gone by, and he didn't know silence could be so dangerous.
a lot of people said they "forgot" about luka in odnlb until chapter 7, when he was facetiming adrien. i actually really really loved that because it was just so LUKA of him to be forgotten. he doesn't think he's important compared to marinette or adrien, and so he talks to them about their issues and ignores his own need for growth/action. luka's sin is sloth, which might sound like the least harmful of all the 7 deadlies but which i think i've shown can be extremely sabotaging to others and to himself. it's also a character trait i've not seen portrayed too often, but whenever i do the characters are really interesting. those of you who don't have this issue will easily think, "all he has to do is SPEAK." well, that's literally the hardest thing for him to do! because if he does, he's going to rock the boat and lose connection, and that's the thing he's afraid of most.
this was a great ask, @flightfoot! i love all your questions but this has been my favorite so far!
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paimonial-rage · 1 year
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Genshin Impact Typology
My take on various Genshin Impact characters' mbti, enneagram, and instinctual variants. Please note that this is based upon Jungian (cognitive function) mbti, not Dichotomous mbti (if you do not know, please look it up), so if you disagree, please disagree based upon Jungian terminology. If you would like me to give reasons for any characters, please let me know.
You'll notice some types have question marks by them. They indicate the degree of my confidence in those typings. The more question marks, the less confident I am. The types in parentheses indicate other possibilities they could be. The "x" in mbti types indicates that I am unsure of which letter they are (i.e. IxFJ means they can either be an ISFJ or an INFJ). A lack of question marks or parentheses indicates that I am more or less confident in my typing.
Mondstadt
Albedo - 5w6 IxFJ sp/so
Diluc - 1w9 ISTJ(ISFP?) sp/??
Kaeya - 7w8(4w3?) ExTP sx/??
Venti - 2w3? ENFJ? so/sx
Liyue
Beidou - 7w8 ESFP sx/so?
Chongyun - 9w1 ISxJ sp/so
Ningguang - 3w4?? INTJ? sp/??
Xiao - 9w8(4w5?) ISFP sp/sx
Xingqiu - 4w3 ENFP? sx/so
Zhongli - 1w9 ISTJ sp/so
Inazuma
Arataki Itto - 3w2 ExFP so/sx
Gorou - 1w2 xSFP so/sx
Kaedehara Kazuha - 9w1 ISFJ sp/so
Kamisato Ayaka - 9w1 ISFJ sp/so
Kamisato Ayato - 3w4?? ENxJ sx/sp?(sp/sx?)
Kujou Sara - 1w9 ISTJ sp/sx?
Kuki Shinobu - 5w6 ISTJ?? sp/so
Shikanoin Heizou - 7w6 ExTP so/sx
Thoma - 2w1(9w1) ENFJ so/sx
Yae Miko - 7w8 ESxP(ENxJ?) sx/sp
Schneznaya
Childe - 7w8 ESxP sx/so
Sumeru
Alhaitham - 9w8 ISTP sp/sx
Cyno - 1w9 ISTJ? so/sp
Kaveh - 2w1 ENFP sx/so
Nilou - 9w1 ISFP so/sx
Tighnari - 5w6 INTP sx/sp
Wanderer - 4w3 INFP??? sp/sx
Fontaine
Lyney - 6w7(3w?) ExFP so/sx
Neuvillette - 1w9 ISTJ sp/so
Wriothesley - 9w8 ESTP sp/so
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isekyaaa · 1 year
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enneagram vibes
heart triad: insecure
head triad: avoidant
gut triad: leave me tf alone
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bardish-cryptid · 1 year
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💭🎂 for jacob!!
Thank you for the ask! It’s very appreciated!
💭 what is your oc's MBTI, enneagram, and/or other personality aspects (if known/interested in)?
Jacob's enneagram would probably be 5w4 currently, and is MBTI is ISTJ, if my knowledge of both of those serves me well enough. He is very quiet and analytical, and determined to be successful and someone his peers can be proud of knowing. However, he also is very introspective when he wants to be, and when he is, he feels his feelings very deeply, which is why he tends to avoid being introspective.
🎂 when is your oc's birthday? how old are they? what are their sun, moon, & rising signs (if known)? what about their tarot card, ruling planet, & ruling number (if known)? do they fit the typical traits of these sun, moon, & rising signs?
I learnt a lot (the bare minimum) of astrology to answer this question, which I will try to answer the best I can (if I mess it up, please forgive me!)
Ok so Jacob’s date of birth is June 23rd 1952, which is generally unimportant plot-wise but it means he celebrates his birthday during the summer which is very cool, and he is 16 years old. Now, I may be wrong with this, but with that plus the time of birth (which I said was 10:22am on the calculator I used. Jacob is the kind of guy to be born in the late morning), it makes him a Cancer sun Virgo rising Cancer moon, and from what I can understand, he doesn’t fit the typical traits of those types that much. Instead of caring for others, he’s polite enough, but he typically doesn’t extend his care any further than absolutely necessary, partially because he doesn’t see himself fit to help others due to insecurity. I can’t say anything about the tarot cards or ruling numbers because my brain has gone kaput, but his ruling planet is the moon, if that’s anything?
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smokedanced · 2 years
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me talking about enneagram: -excited ramble- me after talking about the enneagram: oh god i hope i didn’t come across as thinking my knowledge or typings are superior everyone is valid i don’t want conflict i don’t want anyone to feel like i think they are mistyped or their muses are mistyped i hate it when people think i think i’m superior i don’t i’m not i’m dumb of ass
see also, the 5-9 stem in action. the 5: on rare occassion has a huge excited ramble about a special interest. the 9: oh god what if i instigate conflict
and the 4 fix in the middle just: bitch
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annbourbon · 5 months
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🖤 ✨ 🖤 ✨ Rika ✨ 🖤 ✨ 🖤
Let's start with Rika...
⚠️possible spoilers ahead, be warned⚠️
I can't believe I actually didn't realize that. I mean, I did it. Like 7 years ago, but I had no clue on how to explain it.
Besides it needs from Mystic Messenger Timeline *which I'm still working on, and trying to finish* to actually make sense.
Disclaimer: Please take into account that whatever I say here, it's only my opinion after playing the game so many years. I'm not a psychiatrist or a psychologist, or therapist of any kind. I'm just a writer, who loves to spend time analysing characters and stories.
I did asked to my mom to help me with this and the other characters because of how difficult the task ahead of me was. My mom, who is an actual therapist, did her best to help me, but I did most of the analysis here, since I'm the one who knows the in's and outs of this game. Besides, I did my research and I'll make sure to quote it! So give it a chance and keep reading even if you disagree with me. And then, I'd love to read your thoughts on the topic 💕
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Narcissus. Also known as daffodil.
Should I talk to you about the dark side of the flowers and tie it to MM characters?? Anyways, Rika is a narcissistic. But also has a profound trauma. One doesn't exclude the other. Here's a quote from Mayo Clinic:
«Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence, they are not sure of their self-worth and are easily upset by the slightest criticism.»
Causes: The cause is likely complex. Narcissistic personality disorder may be linked to:
Environment — parent-child relationships with either too much adoration or too much criticism that don't match the child's actual experiences and achievements.
There are other two, that are genetic, and neurobiology causes, but I'll be focusing more on the environment, which let's be honest, it's what is displayed on the game. If you're interested on reading more about it, there's a link before the quote and, on References, I'll also be leaving every single link.
So let's go back to Rika and please read the next three images while remembering how's her relationship with V, and Saeran. Sometimes even with MC, and Mika.
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As you can see...
Attention:
* Creates the RFA. Receives attention.
* Creates Mint Eye. Receives attention.
* Says V is her Sun.
* As soon as she gets tired, says V's killing her and wants to leave
* Wants to mix RFA and Mint Eye. I assume is because despite everything, she feels like she's losing attention on everything she created. And MC is the reason of that too.
They don't choose losers:
V is a millionaire
Jumin is a millionaire
Zen is super sexy and hot
Jaehee and the twins are really smart
Do I need to keep going? Even Elizabeth the 3rd is one of the most beautiful cats ever seen.
Grooming:
Here's the part that keeps bothering me because I realized about it before I could actually explain what it was going on. Seven years ago I decided to play the game, and I finished feeling a bit too weird on how everyone was so infatuated with Rika... it wasn't any other person that just dies and then the group dies too. It was still active two years after losing her (?) Even though they have only know each other for... 4 to 6 years?
Some even less. Like Jaehee. Which randomly brings me to: She's an ENFJ so she does focus on details like Jaehee (Jaehee might be ISFJ, ISTJ or even ESFJ considering how well she manages around people too. But that's another story.) Her enneagram is probably 1.
I can understand Yoosung, but... you know what I mean. It was weird. And once I reached the first VN novel about V and Rika I felt even more weirded out by these two.
I don't think I can pinpoint it but I felt like Rika was manipulating V so I was surprised when I realized some members were tying these two as lovers and a beautiful couple. Do you guys remember V being surprised by Rika quoting "The Sun is the mother of all"?? Yeah... Even back then, for me it was a highlight of how messed up their relationship was. But again, I couldn't exactly pinpoint it. Until, now.
After Cheritz released Another Story, and Rika DLC, many of my theories came true. But still in a disorganized way. Which is why I created The Mystic Messenger Timeline.
I did confirmed one thing:
Rika is a narcissist and V is a people pleaser (that doesn't make him any less villainous of what he is, but I'll explain once we'll reach his profile. I promise.) at least at the very beginning of this story.
She probably has psychopatic tendencies
She definitely has sadistic and abusive tendencies: I have a hard time putting through her whole behavior during Saeran's Route and especially during his AE. But she takes pleasure in hurting others. V, Saeran, MC, Mint Eye associates, etc.
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A bit of One on the Enneagram:
It is called The Reformer.
Because Ones have a “sense of mission” that leads them to want to improve the world in various ways, using whatever degree of influence they have. They strive to overcome adversity—particularly moral adversity—so that the human spirit can shine through and make a difference. They strive after “higher values,” even at the cost of great personal sacrifice.
If you think I'm too far off, then please check the levels of healthy and unhealthy Ones can have. They sure ring a bit too much for me on Rika's behavior. From Level 1 to 9, we can see her evolution during the game. But here you have a couple of her worse traits.
Unhealthy Levels
Level 7: Can be highly dogmatic, self-righteous, intolerant, and inflexible. Begin dealing in absolutes: they alone know "The Truth." Everyone else is wrong: very severe in judgments, while rationalizing own actions.
Level 8: Become obsessive about imperfection and the wrongdoing of others, although they may fall into contradictory actions, hypocritically doing the opposite of what they preach.
Level 9: Become condemnatory toward others, punitive and cruel to rid themselves of wrongdoers. Severe depressions, nervous breakdowns, and suicide attempts are likely. Generally corresponds to the Obsessive-Compulsive and Depressive personality disorders
If you want to know more about this, check this.
So, why do you (player) like Rika as character?
Because it's okay, I know people who actually like Rika. I don't, but I definitely don't hate her either...
You don't need to be worried about it as long as you know what she did was wrong. That's it. Now, why do you like her/identify with her?
Things that might, or not, ring a bell:
* Trauma: Rika has a traumatic past. And you might feel like it's a mirror of your past. Hence identifying with it might not be something difficult. Of course this doesn't mean you are leader of some religious cult.
* Her willingness to fight despite having everything at odds. Let's not forget that before she goes nuts and starts brainwashing people, she did a lot of great deeds. Tried to stay positive and all that.
* Her kindness (we can discuss over certain things, but as much as she did terrible things, she also did amazing things, like creating the RFA to help people. Wether she did it with a certain master plan in mind or not, she did helped as much as she hurt and that's the important part.)
* She's just a great villain! It might be hard to understand for some people but you actually just look at her character as what it is, a character, and you're impressed by how many discussions and hot debates she brings onto the table. Understandable!
* Her flower means forgiveness♡
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Do you have any other ideas for why you might like Rika? I'd be happy to read them. 💕
Also, this might be one of my last post about her. Might not be the last but I do need to finish with the Mystic Messenger Timeline, and I will but I don't think I have a lot more material to write about. So thank you for sticking with me all this time! I'm linking the main post on MysMe theories I have, I still need to finish tying up all nicely. But we're coming to the end. I'm definitely talking about trauma, coping mechanisms, parenthood, childhood and societal pressures but it'll be in other posts, possibly not even linking them to this one. Who knows? Stay tuned~!
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References:
Mayo Clinic - Narcissistic Disorder Personality
Between Narcissistic & People pleaser
Medium - Beware a narcissist with a hero complex
Paired Life - Hero & Narcissist
Enneagram Institute - One
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Asks Masterpost
Arranged in chronological order for (hopefully) convenience. :)
For my analyses and other posts, check out my pinned post here.
Dead Apple comes before Cannibalism arc (BSD)
Stormbringer comes before Dragon's Head Conflict (BSD)
Local Cryptid Mori (BSD)
Chuuya's Relevance to the Main Manga (BSD)
Chuuya and Dazai Outfit Changes (BSD)
Chuuya loses his coat around Dazai (BSD)
Interpretations of Chuuya losing his coat Pt. 1 (BSD)
Interpretations of Chuuya losing his coat Pt. 2 (BSD)
Dazai loses his coat as he runs to Odasaku (BSD)
Chapter 101: Chuuya will be fine (BSD)
Fyodor underestimates Chuuya (BSD)
Poking Mori with a stick (BSD)
Random Yokomizo and Mushitarou thoughts (BSD)
Mushitarou Thoughts and Contrasts with Ango (BSD)
Chuuya is intelligent (BSD)
Kunikida and Akutagawa stalemate in Entrance Exam (BSD)
Natsume Thoughts (BSD)
Aquarium Mayoi Chuuya (BSD)
Timeline Clarification for DoA and Meursault arc (BSD)
Thoughts on "Dazai is the Book" theory (BSD)
Kafkaesque (BSD)
Enneagrams for Dazai, Yosano, Akutagawa, Atsushi, Kyouka, and Tachihara (BSD)
Pushkin and Meursault (BSD)
Chuuya and Water Motifs (BSD)
Shouldn't the Special Division know where the Book is? (BSD)
Rimbaud and Verlaine as a generation of skk (BSD)
Could No Longer Human have been transferred to Dazai? (BSD)
Onsen Drama CD discussion (BSD)
Is the Book's manipulation of reality flawed? (BSD)
Is Dazai's real name Shuuji? (BSD)
Kouyou and Kyouka's abilities cannot form a singularity (BSD)
Was Dazai's ability given to him by the Book? (BSD)
Is the anime set in a different universe to the manga? (BSD)
Dazai's distant, well-adjusted cousin Shuuji (BSD)
Location of Chuuya's hat in Fifteen and Stormbringer (BSD)
Nikolai's speech is narrated by the page (BSD)
Clarification of the Russian writing on the note Sigma found (BSD)
Who could've bitten Chuuya? (BSD)
Stampede Vash thoughts and picking sides (Trigun)
Anti-Katai Fyodor ability theory (BSD)
Differences between "real" and parallel "Book" worlds (BSD)
"The Double" and potential Fyodor connection (BSD)
Tanizaki development and observations (BSD)
How I do my analyses (not fandom)
Who left the note? (BSD)
Thoughts on Dazai attacking the cop in Side B (BSD)
Skk - Who's the dog, really? (BSD)
Atsushi and Sigma parallels (BSD)
Chuuya's friend-making method (BSD)
Is Q coming back? (BSD)
Ace and Dazai parallels (BSD)
Thoughts on Atsushi not resisting Akutagawa's bite (BSD)
Angel and demon comparisons (BSD)
Atsushi as the Key, Dazai as the Seal... (BSD)
Protagonist Switch with Chuuya and Dazai? (BSD)
Possibility of Akutagawa leaving PM after DoA arc? (BSD)
Possibility of Agency abilities going haywire after Fukuzawa's death (BSD)
When did Dazai learn Chuuya was not a vampire? (BSD)
Ending of Meursault arc thoughts (BSD)
Did Bones change the script for S5 finale? (BSD)
Gide vs Oda, Fyodor vs Dazai (BSD)
Workaholic Chuuya (BSD)
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plasmasimagination · 5 months
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Oh, fear panic terror, communicate ideas
Hello, I saw all the people giving comments and requests about them. I would like to request the pairing of HSR with the men in the game, the women are cute but I see them all in a platonic way here
I went off the rails... Your opinion about my relationship with any of the HSR men, please do not feel pressured by the request
I'm a human, the term gender is too confusing and ambiguous for me, so I just got used to calling myself a woman because that's how I was born. My MBTI is INTJ, I tried to get my enneagram but I got bored and never tried again to tell you the truth.
My height is quite short for my age, usually people have taken up to 4 years off me, approximately 1.56 meters (I have no idea how much that is in feet) and something similar really happens with my voice and general appearance, I usually wear a lot of pink and pastel colors. My favorite color it's pink, red, purple and white
My personality is usually quite calm, I like to listen to others and sometimes say a controversial comment for the mere pleasure of listening to others debate with fervor. Listening to their reasoning usually says a lot about them, more than any presentation would. For the same reason, I tend to be quite assertive, if someone feels slightly different than usual, I have probably already noticed and tell that person's friends so that they can take care of it, I don't like to be very nosy with the rest, the vast majority don't talk to me and starting to talk to them because of their change in behavior can scare them and leave them on the defensive.
I tend to understand people quite quickly on that side, their emotions are easy to see even with less wrinkled skin, their tone of voice and words give it away instantly.
Outside of my problem of analyzing the social behavior around me... I usually stay in my storybook or my phone all day with headphones on, if my friends don't talk to me I can spend hours reading Andersen stories (Hans Christian Andersen, his stories are my entire existence💕), I usually listen to my friends calmly talk about their hobbies or problems, they usually tell me that I look like a loving mother
When I'm at home I like to cook, clean, organize purchases and play video games on my PC... A housewife practically, When I grow up I would like to take full charge of my home, even without a partner, filling my home with my emotions and experiences seems beautiful to me (I once said that to my best friend, and he said "Like my grandma" in the most neutral voice possible, sigh sigh)
I like to read, write short stories or the beginnings of novels, play with my cats and place a cardboard box inside my head to relieve the sensory load of the day.
Hyperfixation? Cardboard boxes, cats, cannibalism, criminal cases and metaphors
I just wrote a lot, sorry for some misused words or strange phrases, I have a hard time with English and Spanish is actually my first language
(I JUST SEE EVERYTHING I WROTE, I'M SO SORRY)
SWEEETIEEE HAYY ヾ( ˃ᴗ˂ )◞ • *✰
A/n- I don't know how concerned I should be on a scale of one to ten about the hyperfixtion on cannibalism /j
Also please don't worry about the length, it provides me a better insight and it's a lot easier to write that way ( ๑ ˃̵ᴗ˂̵)و ♡
Anyway your matchup iss...
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DAN HENG
Calm x calm
Two rational cutiepies
The fact that you can analyse humans so well will be very useful to decide what Dan Heng actually feels, since he's quite reserved and doesn't like sharing his feelings
He appreciates your calm nature, it's refreshing after hanging out with march all of the time-
No but really, he does like the fact that he can chat with you about things, he appreciated being listened to, and he is also a good listener
He's usually spending time in his room, either reading or simply doing other things, except socializing
But the only person he lets be in the room, is you
Cuz you guys have this thing, where you can just simply sit in the same room in silence, without that awkwardness, its a comfortable silence
He also likes cats, though it may take a bit convincing, he'll give in eventually and you can get a cat, after all how could he deny his darling
Generally I think you guys would love a calm and comfortable life, not much changes in your routines and just generally two people living a normal life together loving each other.
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wndaswife · 1 year
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elizabeth olsen: mbti type & enneagram | isfj 9w8
i put together a cohesive analysis of lizzie's typology that i've analyzed so far, collected from a few month's worth of study :D
because these are my own observations, these are not one hundred percent conclusive, so i am very willing to hear any contrasting opinions, especially as i am still always learning.
i believe elizabeth olsen is an isfj, and for reference as i will be referring to isfj's cognitive functions throughout the analysis, isfj's cognitive functions are (see links for definitions):
Si-dominant (introverted sensing), Fe-auxillary (extroverted feeling), Ti-tertiary (introverted thinking), and Ne-inferior (extroverted intuition)
an mbti type's cognitive functions serve as the processes a type goes through cognitively in order to process the world around them — receive information, understand things, etc. they are in chronological order from most used (strongest) to least used (weakest). in going through these functions and giving examples of lizzie's cognitive processes, i will prove why i believe she is an isfj.
additionally, the order in which the cognitive functions are placed also mean something. for example, though there is only one definition for what Si-dominant means, the function can be used differently when it is an auxiliary function or an inferior function, because then that would mean they are not an Si-dom mbti type (isfj and istj). so i will also being going over why i believe lizzie's usages of isfj's functions are in the order listed above. here are the definitions for each cognitive function placement:
dominant function (1st): you rely on this first and foremost when you process things and receive information, it is the way all your cognitive functions work together, it is your cognitive foundation in a sense.
an isfj's dominant function, Si (introverted sensing), uses their observations and experiences to create conclusions and understandings about their environment that they can rely on.
auxiliary function (2nd): the interest you lean towards when your mind processes things.
isfj's Fe (extroverted feeling), their auxiliary function, uses their dominant function in order to better understand the way people connect, to have reliable observations about human behaviour and people.
tertiary function (3rd): this can be seen as the function that brings some sort of comfort to you. it is the reason why your dominant and auxiliary functions work together, it's your reasoning behind why you process things naturally in the way that you do.
isfj's Si-Fe pairing work together because it creates comfort for them, they need a structure to rely on. they feel safer, more stable, and comfortable knowing they live in a world they understand. they want their observations and experiences to create a cohesive string of rationality that they can follow.
inferior function (4th): your weakest function, and the function you revert to under severe, prolonged stress (also called grip stress). developing one's weakest function can lead to great personal development, but having an underdeveloped inferior function (which is natural at first) can lead to more reliance on your first three functions.
for isfjs and Si-dominants in general, an underdeveloped inferior function can manifest as being someone who has a difficult time parting from their conclusions of their environment. an isfj a developed Ne-inferior function (lizzie has this) can create a very open-minded person who goes through lengths to reach out and understand more about people, who still take pleasure in creating structure with their experiences, but who are also not constricted by a close-mind or a strong fear of experimenting.
now that we have covered all of that basic information, i can now move onto my analyses! i will reference the definitions on isfj's functions and function placements often, so it may help you to scroll up and refer back to what i've written above whenever you need.
there is a common belief that lizzie is an entp, where her functions are Ne (extroverted intuition), Ti (introverted thinking), Fe (extroverted thinking), and Si (introverted sensing). 
any person who says this does not have Fe as their tertiary function: “There’s a team effort that I’m obsessed with. I love working together with a group of people problem solving. I love being on a team so much, and it’s something you get to do a lot as a kid. I would never be like a tennis player, because I really love the team environment and that’s what being on a set feels like. I know there are other ways to do that in your life, and if there was another job I were to do, it would be something that was collaborative with people. I also love getting to explore why people are the way they are, and why they make decisions that they make. It’s just something that will never be boring to me. We spend the time getting to understand people’s life experiences, and I feel like a story is like a really artful way of exploring why we are the way we are. And I don’t get that from life except for meeting new people. To me, it’s like you go over to someone’s house and have dinner and then you’re like, ‘Oh my God, that was amazing!’ Like, that doesn’t happen all the time. But I get that from work — that constant peeling away at human behaviour.”
not only is this very auxiliary Fe to me, but it’s also coming across as Si-Fe. i’ve always seen her need to connect and harmonise with people around her as very Fe-aux, which is nothing like entps tertiary use of Fe. it is true that both types use the function, yet it is only an Si-Fe who would want to create harmony and find patterns in collaborative work, namely in observing human behaviour as they go through life putting pieces together to create a world of constructed harmony and collaboration derived from personal experience and observation. entp’s use of Fe is at the very least not this expressive. what i find most important to note with her behaviour is that she does not take in what Fe brings to be divulged (as an entp would, especially one with a developed use of Fe), but rather she internalises her analyzations and simple joys of being around groups of people, the world of collaboration and human behaviour, which also goes back to her being an Si-dominant. 
instead, she is an isfj with a well-developed Ne-inferior as shown in this clip. she uses her past experiences and observations when playing a role in which she cannot personally relate to, with the ultimate goal of finding similarities within all individuals under the shared human behaviour. in this case, in playing wanda who is a mother and as someone who does not have children, she used her own experiences with friends and family and the love and dedication from those relationships to envision a mother’s love for her children, specifically through the structure of human nature that she continuously develops through her roles through, again, observation and experience. i believe that is very strongly Si-Fe with well developed Ne, referencing past experiences, namely her relationships and connections with those she loves and the dynamics between loved ones, in order to understand the greater concept of what all human beings share in spite of their differences.
she mentions that she does not have the exact same circumstances as a mother does, and still uses her past experiences to envision a mother’s love. i’d say that a large part of why that processing works so well even if she doesn’t come from the exact same situation is because of her Ne usage, how she finds connections between this structure of love within human nature. keyword is ‘structure,’ and i think it’s really important to note how often she brings up this understanding of human behaviour that she references to often (not only in this video but many other interviews), especially using her roles playing complex women to explore this. this is what Si-Fe with an amazingly developed Ne looks like. i personally do not see anything but isfj for her. 
now moving onto her tertiary function, Ti (introverted thinking), i think her habit of categorising and observing human behaviour through her roles is a reliance on Ti, because along with using Si and Fe, i’d say they work together in a way that allows her to make sense of things. having to live within structure and having that reliance on her ability to make connections with the world (Si-Fe) seems to me like a tertiary use of Ti when she explains it from the standpoint she does it from. sort of like the whole “needing to make sense” of things, like things having to connect and form some sort of rational relationship.
in a podcast, i believe her exact analogy was comparing herself to gaseous atoms through the particle theory, how she has to experience the world through a sort of box, a controlled chaos if anything, for if you opened the box then the particles would scatter. and that kind of comfort that derives from stability and structure seems to me like Ti-tertiary, as the tertiary function is used a lot for sense of ‘comfort’ in a way. the analogy is pretty Si-dom to me as well, and her need to always follow some kind of string of logic to stay in her comfort zone is also Ti tert.
and finally, her enneagram! i believe she is an 9w8. out of the nine enneagram types, you can have one that applies to you the most and a wing, which is either one of the adjacent types that complements your primary enneagram the most. 
enneagram 9s seek harmony, an understanding and balance in their environment, a connection to the things and people around them. they fear being separated from things and people they care about, fearing losing their connections. i think this fits perfectly with her desire to understand human behaviour amongst other things, especially as an isfj where her tertiary function (Ti) has her relying on rationale and stability, and with enneagram 9 that lets her seek peace-keeping and balance. 
there are two things an enneagram 9 can be: 9w8 and 9w1.
moving onto why 8 wing > 1 wing, though she is outwardly very laid back, she can actually be quite assertive, and has mentioned once in an interview that she is a very opinionated person who is trying to come off as more sensitive, and in another podcast that she is a perfectionist who finds it natural to take control and did confess she could overdo it to a bit of a fault at times.
9w8s (known as the referee) are known for being assertive and stronger with their opinions, whereas 9w1s (known as the negotiator) are likely to be less prone to seek rebuttal in a way. 9w8s are a lot more likely to be more dominant and direct with their beliefs and opinions than 9w1s are.
i don’t see her as a 1 wing. i think her strong opinions and perfectionism being a part of her personality that's reserved for more personal relationships and professional roles (like producing her show) instead of very objective and explicit in her everyday life points to her being more a 9w8 than a 9w1, who'd instead be more overt with their opinions as a 1 enneagram tends to have their beliefs aligned with more objective values. additionally there is a bit of an idea that 9w8s are more likely to be extroverts, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they have to be extroverts, i think it has more to do with being people-oriented and valuing social harmony, which both apply to her while also being someone who's an Si-dom.
if i ever do some up with substantial enough additions to my observations of lizzie's typology, i think i will make a separate post like this one! but for now, these are all of my analysations that i've really enjoyed putting together and trying to understand. i think analysing her typology has helped me admire her more, and has also shed a lot of light on her mbti type and enneagram as i haven't previously known this much about someone with hers. i hope you all liked reading my observations and all, and i am also super open to answer any questions about anything i've written, or anything typology-related!
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Songs I associate with each Enneagram type (but I’m bad at typing):
One:
I don’t think I can say this
Carnivore - STARSET
Finders Keepers - Riproducer
World So Cold - 12 Stones
Alright, you ones have been getting too many unironic entries. Time for mockery.
World Around Me - Escape The Fate
Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing - Set It Off (Accidentally chose the acoustic version) (me momen)
Rock Bottom - Grandson
Molly - MSI
Oh No! - MARINA (I know I’m shit at typing but how is ‘Don’t need money, don’t need fame’ 3?? PDB is wilding)
Sorry if I put this elsewhere, but Hope Of Morning by Icon For Hire. I originally took this as a 5, 6 or 9 song when analysing it, but I had an epiphany; it’s 1 coded. Let me explain. (“My mind’s a kaleidoscope, it thinks too fast, blurs all the colours til I can’t see past, last mistake, the choice I made, staring in the mirror with only myself to blame.” Black and white thinking, self-hatred. “Sometimes I’m afraid of the thoughts inside, nowhere to hide inside my mind. I’m scared that you’ll compare and I’ll look like a lifetime past repair.” High standards, worries about being a bad person. “Self-disgust and selfishness tend to hold me awfully close, but I don’t want my friends to see that, I don’t want my friends to know.”) (I’m on the fence about this typing) (I feel like I might be trying to type every song I can, which isn’t how this works. While I Will Not Bow by Breaking Benjamin seems 853ish to me, like, I don’t associate it strongly with 8, so it doesn’t belong in this list. Same with a lot of other songs.)
Two:
Where Has Everyone Gone? - James Marriott
It Should’ve Been Me - Riproducer (“But I’m unsure of my intent. Surely my fragile hospitality would shatter under the stress.”)
Painkiller - Three Days Grace (I know it’s a fucking metaphor, before any smartahs try to correct me.)
You know I have so few 2 songs when I have to resort to Helluva Boss fansongs that are maybe semi-official now
UwU Song - Rikutzu (Idk I don’t have any 2sungs)
This song is sx2 core. (UM HELP??? I put the wrong song here, but I have no idea what the one I meant to put here was. THIS IS SUCH A FUNNY MISTAKE THO)
Sticks and Stones - The Pierces (sx2) (“I’m the one you want.” “But you get scared when we’re alone, like I might suck your blood.” “Love me more than anyone.” “Can’t undo my spell on you.”)
Jericho - Celldweller (this is such a so2 song, and let me explain!) (“self-importance amplified.” “you’re looking down, and feeling so profound. you’re so impressed by your false humility.” “an unhappy ending to your sense of deity.” “you’re so oblivious to your own frailty.” “an unhappy ending to the life you’ve glorified”)
Three:
Witness - Mindless Self Indulgence (relate as a disintegrated 6 tbh)
Copycat - Circus P (“I say everything you like to hear… I can’t remember who I am… I’ve become what you like”)
Why Not Me? - Set It Off
Good Enough - atsuover (“Why would I continue being me, when better people are all I see?… put on your mask and get up on your on your way, they love you anyway”) (suppose this could also be 1)
Scary World - Night Club (ooo3 ooo3 ooo3) (edit: not sure if I’d type this as a 3 or 4 song?)
You’re Dead - Norma Tanega (“Plan all your moves in advance.” “There’s too much work to be done.” “Don’t ever talk with your eyes, be sure that you compromise.” “You’ve sold out your dream to the world.”)
Theatre - Icon For Hire (“I’m getting pretty good at feeding them the lines they like, but I don’t recognise the girl that I see each night.”) (6 fix btw) (I’m just using this as an excuse because I keep neglecting the 3’s)
EVERYTHING - LuluYam (“I wanna be everybody’s dream.” “I want to be everything.” “A king, a lord, an emperor, a god. A fake, a fraud, a phony, oh my god. Don’t crack through my facade. Don’t crack through my facade!)
Fake it - Seether (“Who’s to know if your soul will fade at all? The one that you sold to fool the world.”) (“Fake it if you’re out of direction, fake it if you don’t belong here. Fake it if you feel like infection.”)
Pretty For You - Baby Bugs (okay, this could be 2 or 9 too, but it’s kinda sx3 for me, imo)
Ghost rule - DECO27 (Not putting lyrics up, I don’t speak Japanese and am relying on rough translations)
Insecurity - Girls Love Shoes (This song is SOOOO 3 core) (“What are they thinking of me?” “I just want to stand out, I just want to fit in” > w4.)
Four:
Happy Hurts - Icon For Hire (“Can we let the pain and happy mix?… If I had to pick between the way that I am, and the way that everyone else seems to pretend, I wouldn’t question it, not even for a second”)
Identity - Grandson
Skeleton - Set It Off
Get Well II - Icon For Hire
Sugar And Spice - Icon For Hire (“Wouldn’t you rather be broken than boring too?” Seriously, such a 4 song.)
Feel Better - Penelope Scott (“I don’t wanna feel better, no one’s ever gonna love me like that again… I don’t wanna get over it, I wanna get under it instead.”)
Pyrite Girl - Riproducer
Hurt - Get Scared (“How do you think I’m alright? And I like the way you hurt inside.”)
I Can Only Be Me - Mars Argo (“Try to take my identity, and I’ll just create a new one.”)
Only Be A Story - Icon For Hire (core fear)
4w5 moment (no I’ve never played Touhou)
Iodine - Icon For Hire (“I think I’m just in love with the feeling” “Crazy is I believe the medical term, for when we wanna recover, but don’t wanna learn.” “I say I wanna be happy, but I quickly forget. Will I sabotage all the good I’ve got left? Depression’s like a big fur coat, it’s made of dead things, but it keeps me warm.”) (9 fix btw)
4w3!!
Won’t Forget - Dabu
Pretend You Love Me - Baby Bugs (“And sometimes I wonder if I didn’t hurt so bad, would I be more lovable to my mom and my dad? And if I went back in time to see six year old me, I’d say this shit does not get better, this is who you’re meant to be and I’m a monster, so you say, and I do this on purpose anyway. I need to feel this pain.”)
Devastation And Reform - Relient K (Disintegration to 1) (“I feel like I was born, for devastation and reform. Destroy everything I love and the worst part is, I pull my heart out, reconstruct, but in the end it’s nothing but a shell of what I had when I first started.” “But they’re’d be no story, without all this dissension. So I inflict the conflict, with the utmost of attention.”)
L’assasymphonie (from MLOR) (For the same reason as Ghost Rule, I won’t put the lyrics up)
The Abandoned Castle Of My Soul - The Gothic Archie’s. Do I need to explain this? Lol
Pain - Three Days Grace.
Five:
Lateralus - TOOL (“Overthinking, overanalysing, separates the body from the mind.”)
Dream Your Dream - TryHardNinja (Ok look, I know there’s a type probably more suited for this song but I’ve been neglecting the fives.)
The Sun, The Moon, The Stars - Aether Realm (I have no justification for this)
Echo - CrusherP
Anonymous - Three Days Grace
Jail Time - Chloe Adams (“Jail time, living in my head.” 5w4 core.)
Hounds - Puma Blue
The Fool - Aether Realm (no idea what this songs actually meant to say but considering it’s called ‘the fool’ referring to the fools journey and mentions knowledge like 2ce it’s 5core.)
The Grudge - TOOL
Am I Supposed To Apologise? - Maria Mena (“I sought understanding clarity and truth, by baring all the wounds inflicted on my youth.” Literally 5w4. Maybe 4w5. In case it isn’t obvious, I’m pretty bad at typing songs.)
Can’t Get Out - Dabu
5 with a 4 fix. Yeah I didn’t say all these entries would be serious.
Breakdown - Lacuna Coil (“Shutting myself off, getting numb inside.” “I can’t stand the noise outside.” “Even if you think I’m fine, I’m still damaged, I stay out of sight.”)
Mind Is A Prison - Alec Benjamin (I’m at the 100 link limit) (“Sometimes I think too much.” “I’m always stuck in my head.” “Guess my mind is a prison, and I’m never gonna get out.”)
Everybody’s Watching Me - The Neighbourhood (“Uh, oh, where can I go? Everybody’s watching me.” “I go through all the trouble of keeping it within my walls. I try to be as subtle as I can. Assume that nothing needs me, all I’ve done defeats me.”)
Feels Like A Wish - Station K (sx5) (“You made my dreams come true.” “Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, from my mind. How can I escape, from this irresistible place?”)
People Watching - Air Traffic Controller (I originally typed this as a 9 song, but it’s soooo 5.) (“Hiding in secret from us all? Who can you trust, who will you call?” “You see the world while locked inside.”) (heavily 9 fixed with a slight 4 fix, too)
Six:
Nightmare - Set It Off (“And all I know is that I don’t feel safe… but am I losing my mind?”)
Curse Or Cure - Icon For Hire (“Oh I swear my emotions are the enemy… I’m afraid I can’t trust myself, don’t leave me alone”)
Killer In The Mirro - Set It Off (“Never let your guard down… cause I know if you could switch this, you’d be dishing out the same shit… now I know, there’s no one I can trust.”)
I’m Made Of Wax Larry, What Are You Made Of? - A Day To Remember (“Everybody’s out to get me”; yep that’s my entire justification)
Misguided Ghosts - Paramore (“See I’m tryna find my place, and it might not be here where I feel safe… would someone care to classify our broken hearts and twisted minds so I can find someone to rely on, and run to them?”
Fear And Loathing - MARINA (Congratulations, if you’ve ever put this song in your vent playlist, you’re a 6 or 6 fix. :))
Culling Voices - TOOL (“Disembodied voices deepen my suspicious tendencies. Conversations we’ve never had; imagined interplay… heated altercations we never had, yet I’m guided by them all…. misleading me over and over. Judge, condemn and banish anyone and everyone, without evidence, only the whispers from within.” E6 blueprint.
Hearts A Mess - Gotye (6 blueprint. Actually 5 too.)
Beneath Me - Lucid Planet
JUST FORGET THIS IS A Y’KNOW SONG PLZ
I was gonna type this as 1, initially, but it’s more 6core
Paranoia - A Day To Remember (it’s literally called paranoia like-)
The World Is A Very Scary Place - The Gothic Archie’s (this could also be 5)
Diseased - Baby Bugs (4 fix go brrrr haha)
In Between - James Marriott (“It’s out of the question, it’s over the line, to not be phased, to just be fine.” “How nice it sounds to have your guard down and nothing in between.”) (694 tritype because this is the most 9-ish 6 song ever.)
Pretend - Ursa Major (“My mother said don’t feed the strays, they’ll break your heart and run away.” “What if I second guess again? And listen to the worries in my head?” “You promised me you wouldn’t leave, and boy was I naive, I should’ve never let you in my yard.”)
A sp6 and an unhealthy so2 walk into a bar.
Wired For Worthless - Citizen Soldier (“Pull you in, push you away.” “A brain built by every memory, of times I was not enough to make the ones I love wanna stay.” “Love is a lie, hope is a hole, trust is the trap that took my soul. Family is fake, hatred is home, getting abandoned is all I know.” “A brain built by every memory of times I was vulnerable in vain, which just proved that I’m never worth the pain.)
Dizzy Paranoia Girl - VocaloKAT (so613) (“Expectations high from the start, I’ll just mess it up. Congratulations, you fell apart, f- I messed it up.” “Thoughts racing up and down, oh what to do now? Follow protocol.” “Panic all around, but never make a sound.”) (lol when this song came out I kinda forgot it cuz I couldn’t make the lyrics out, until today when I remembered it existed)
Seven:
Killing Harmony - Mcki Robyn’s P (I first listened to this song with no context. If you try to do the same, you’ll understand.)
Sugar Crash - ElyOtto
Using You - Mars Argo (ok some people are saying this is a 2 mistype and maybe but idk it gives 7 vibes.)
Ruin My Life - Hollywood Undead (I love stereotyping)
We Are One - 12 Stones
Borderline - Toke Styrke
Happy Pills - Weathers (Come on. I’m allowed to stereotype a little.)
7w8 731 moment
Weak And Powerless - A Perfect Circle (I’m not trying to stereotype, I’m just saying this song captures the ego-structure of an E7 trying to escape their shame over addiction through more addiction.) (You might say E8, however, the whole coping mechanism of E8 is denial. I don’t think an E8 would identify with being weak or oppressed, but that’s a generalisation)
Anytime You Smile - JT Music (We Happy Few is 7 coded anyway lol) (“A little rain and clouds will never bring me down.” “I know we’ll get through it.” “Believe me, if I’m dreaming, I wanna keep on sleeping.” “I don’t quite like myself when my head’s not in the clouds.”) (I unironically love this song tho and idk why, cuz it’s the type of song I would hate regularly lol. Maybe it’s the fact it’s… not ironic? Tongue-in-cheek? You’ll understand my point if you know the plot of WHF.)
No One Can Tell Me - Girls Love Shoes (I originally read this as an 8 song, but I see this as a clear 7 song)
Eight:
Loose Cannon - Set It Off (Yeah this is almost entirely stereotypes. Don’t really care though.)
I Didn’t Ask For This - Beth Crowley (I wanted to type this as counter 6 but I knew I’d just be bias cuz I’m a… probable SX6.) (I don’t believe in subtypes anymore) (no I won’t elaborate lol)
Catch Me If You Can - Set It Off
Power & Control - MARINA (except maybe the line about vulnerability but PDB thinks so so it must be right! Man, I love having outside unreliable sources confirm my beliefs! Call me Fox News.)
Discord - Eurobeat Brony (fear being controlled) (8w9 ish due to wanting peace) (an excuse for me to tell you the ORIGINAL song is better.)
White Rabbit - Egypt Central (“I will not be used.” “It’s the reason I chose to cut my losses. Your lies fool no one.” “We’re falling and we’re losing control.” “I won’t be pushed aside, I will be heard. I will get what I want, what I deserve.)
SAHARA - Ivycomb (“Lost in this desert and I’m looking for freedom.” “On my own, I’ll make it.” “I’ll take it by fighting the coldness inside.” “There’s no one to call my friend, but the burden’s feeling lighter without their things.” “But I quickly take my leave and I refuse the aid.” “No one can hurt me if I’m walking all alone. They can’t desert me if I’ve already turned to stone.”)
K All The Enemies - Mario Judah. (“Bring the rage. I will not let you control me, I will not let you betray me.” “Ignite the fire in me, I will not furthermore be controlled.”) (also, 6 fix.)
FACE IT - NOTHING MORE (“Shed this doubt, stand your ground.” “A man is born, and the boy has died, face it.” “You’ll never get to me.” “I’m on my own, silencing the angels in the better part of you.” “I am your gut, I am the truth. I am the power in you.” “Gotta face this on my own.”)
Nine:
Reflection - TOOL
IN MY MOUTH. Really, you should’ve seen this coming.
:) you know exactly why
My Demons - STARSET
Circles - KIRA (“Circles and circles, I look around, I go around, looking for something that cannot be found.”)
This song also describes the 3-5 years I didn’t leave the house and couldn’t even get up. Huh? Oh, that’s a… joke. Haha… (“I don’t want to know what’s waiting for me outside. I’ll make myself disappear. Tell me I should face my fears, but it’s so dark and cloudy in my room. I’m a sunflower who can’t bloom.”)
Still Here - Difitial Daggers (10/10 spelling) (Amazing)
Begin Again - Dabu
Cemetery Blues - LuLuYam (“Why does everybody else seem to know me better than I do?” “Don’t want no damn special attention.” “The way I see it, why do I try at all? Maybe I don’t need to. Maybe I don’t want to. Maybe I’m dramatic and I can’t make up my mind.” “Try to be an optimist and I don’t wanna lose.” “Just another spectre in the graveyard.” “Cause the mask that I’m wearing is a safeguard, and the face underneath is holding back hard.”)
All The Fish Will Be Floating - Rusty Cage (“Apathy is a dangerous tool. Too much of empathy will make you a fool. Apathy blinds your eyes from everything.” “And I ain’t choosing no more, and I ain’t losing no more, and I ain’t winning no more. And I ain’t sinning anymore. Ain’t doing nothing anymore. I ain’t nothing no more.”)
Language Of The Lost - Riproducer (I literally can’t quote the lyrics rn because genius is lagging)
Spanish Sahara - Foals (I have to explain this one. “So I walked into a haze.” >The E9s forget about self. “Forget the horror here.” >escapism, a common E9 coping mechanism “I’m the fury in your head. I’m the ghost in the back of your head.” >again, loss of self, but also repressed anger. “A choir of furies in your head.”)
Imaginary by Evanescence is such a 9 song like. If 999 was a tritype, that’s this song.
Don’t worry, I get accused of having shit taste all the time. I know what you’re thinking.
No I’m excluding the Enneagram album because I don’t like it. Uh… kinda blunt. :( I just don’t know how else to say it.
If you want to listen to any of my playlists: 1, 2, 3, 4
Edit: Making a new version
Edit 2: I might just update this one
Edit: didn’t include it, but whoever typed Bullet by HU as sx4 when it’s the most obvious depressed 7?? Also, hey, what would y’all type Darkest Part by Red? It fits a so3 character of mine, but I actually have no clue.
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azure-firecracker · 2 years
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Send me a character/character relationship (platonic or romantic or just any dynamic at all) and I’ll analyze them using the Enneagram because I’m a nerd:)
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Howdy hi! I'm Elijah and welcome to my classpecting blog! I've been looking into Homestuck classpects for years, reading and touching up on various resources and looking at the characters to best understand what classes and Aspects are, what they do, and how they influence and are influenced by who they are assigned to. I used to have a classpect analysis going on Wattpad years ago, but had deleted it out of insecurity. Now, thanks to the support of some friends, I'm opening it up fresh and new here on the silly hellsite of Tumblr.com.
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-Hiveswap -Friendsim -The Homestuck epilogues -Pesterquest -Any current or future post-canon content after Act 7 of Homestuck.
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My takes on classpects may differ from what may be generally accepted as fanon, and additionally may differ from what is considered canon. While I do take canon Homestuck explanations and testimonials into account, Homestuck altogether is a coming of age story and the involved characters' understandings and explanations may be biased or contradictory to their personality, experiences, and actions-- which creates a paradoxical circle between influencing classpect and being influenced by classpect. As such, though a character may say one thing, I may interpret it differently. Exploration isn't about following what has already been laid out and rehearsed 100 times, but is about the experiences and things you learn by acknowledging what has been said while keeping an open mind to find the answers you are personally looking for.
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sammyunhinged · 1 year
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I have recently rediscovered the joys of tumblr so please help me make friends.
I like/reblog/post:
Riordanverse (mainly Nico, dark!percy, jasico, percico, Percabeth, solangelo)- I have read everything but tKC #3
Hellenic polytheism (I mainly worship Haides, Apollon, Hera, and Eileithyia, but all the Theoi in some form or another)
Supernatural (i am a wincestie and sam stan)
Harry Potter (mostly next gen and Marauders, fuck jkr)
Young Royals!!
Sense8
Shameless
Game of thrones / asoiaf
Heartstopper (tv + graphic novels)
Queer media (books, tv, movies)
9-1-1 / 9-1-1: Lonestar
Enneagram things / character analyses
Classical Greek literature
Greco Roman history
Sims4
I will follow anyone who interacts!
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your match-up game looks like so much funnn so i'm gonna submit one for myself 💖
dragula by rob zombie …. i only rly discovered it like two weeks ago but it’s one i play a lot while working bc for some reason it helps me focus lol
just took a test and got nine, the peacemaker. idk much abt enneagrams 🫣
hmm yes but only when i’m feeling spicy. and they’re almost always about video games in some regard, like analyses or creepypasta deep dives yk?
i don’t think i ever had a REAL imaginary friend. i remember trying for a little while because i thought it’s what all kids were supposed to do, but i never like. Believed in it
sleep aid audios! lately it’s been redacted (i have a whole folder of faves on my phone lol) but before that it was asmrtists like gibi. sometimes i take melatonin too ‘cause it takes me ages to fall asleep 😪
i changed my name around late 2019 to angel when i was just coming into my nonbinary-ness; i took it from the video game borderlands 2! i went back to my given name in 2021/2022 but being angel was fun for a while <3
milo’s panic attack audio i think. i was just getting into redacted and starting from the top and it just made me feel so cozy and locked him in as a fave :’) OOH also the pack smash tournament!! i love multi-speaker videos and that one was so much fun
vincent ……. i’m so sorry i’ve tried three times to listen to his playlist but he bores me 😭 the farthest i’ve gotten is past adam, though i listened to his involvement in inversion and picked up with him after the summit
do video games count bc if so i can quote resident evil 4 2005 ALLLL DAY LONG it’s my favorite game ever. if not i’m gonna say lilo and stitch ‘cause that’s my biggest comfort movie
 HUXLEY. like dgmw i love his non-canon audios & he’d be just the sweetest boyfriend but i want to be his friend so baadlyyy i just need one good huxley hug and i think it would cure me
nooo when i’m sleepy i just get quiet 🫠 i’m not a big talker in general i think
blue raspberry slushie + honey bun OR dr pepper + chili cheese fritos. depends on my mood
recently ummm it’s been a playlist i made called violent devotion, which is basically just yandere-type songs hehe
aw man ok. so i was a big homestuck fan in my teens and i rly loved broadway karkat, & last week i discovered all my faves are on spotify :’) so i made a playlist of them and spent all weekend revisiting my past
HMM okay here’s some rapid fire facts: i’m the eldest of three, i’m a dog person, i’m an introvert,  i can be very stubborn (taurus 👋🏻), i tend to prefer video games over tv/movies, and overall personality-wise i relate the most to honey out of all the listeners!
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So I consider a lot of factors when I do these, I swear I do. That said- you’re a Honey-kinnie but also a dog person? Who else can I pair you with but Asher?
Your personality types, in addition to your being an eldest child, hint to me that you’re a steadfast, reliable person and therefore an excellent foil to Asher who could use someone like that in his life to ground him. In contrast, I think his extroverted, bubbly nature would bring you out of your shell, endear you to the rest of the pack as the beta’s mate. Also, I think your love of video games and homestuck would really bring y’all together. (Out of all the boys, he’s deffo the most likely to be a homestuck.)
You’d have such a fun, chill life together, because Asher keeps it fun and chill, you know? I think Asher spends a lot of time wolfed out and with his big, dog head on your lap while you play video games. He jumps during the scary games and shifts back during co-ops so he can play with you. He comes home from a gig with either a honey bun or Fritos, because he wasn’t sure what the vibe was today, so he’ll eat whichever one you don’t want. You do 7/11 snack runs and compete to see who has the bluest tongue. It’s a great life.
Song:
Ooh, I'm in love/ It's a mystery/ When I see you out at night/ I start to get dizzy/ Before I see you I pick out some things to say/ Don't want to sound foolish and waste my chance away/ Oh, I'm not gonna make the same mistakes/ I'm not gonna run/ Just pick the boy you like
This song is peak Asher-vibes; do you know what I mean? Like, I think this is the kind of music he’d like, this sort of alternative indie pop rock sound. (Side note, the guitarist’s name is literally Darlin, so that’s a sign right there.) This song in particular is so fun and catchy; I can see Asher singing this at you incessantly no matter how long he’s already been your boyfriend.
Runner-ups:
Milo is a runner-up because you’re a dog person /hj It’s also because I would kill to watch him watch you play RE4 or any other horror game- that would be hilarious. Guy is another runner-up because, behind Asher, he’s the second most likely to have had a homestuck phase.
Read this post and send me an ask if you’d like a match-up of your own! 💌
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sorry I wasn’t sure if you were asked this but for 2003 besides Mikey what’s your opinion on the others
Oh, I’ve literally never been asked about my opinions on the turtles, lol!! Thanks for asking!
Mikey is my absolute favorite of all time, but I have such a bias for 03 in general. Like, I genuinely can’t rank them besides Mikey as #1 cuz they are SOOO Precious to Me!!
Grouped up or as duos or on their lonesome, they all have facets to them I find interesting. There’s the protectiveness they all feel towards each other and their family and friends and even Complete Strangers. They have a shared Sense of Honor instilled in them by their father. And then just the way they play off of each other like AGH I could name so many moments!!! They are Such Siblings!!!!
But individually, to say a fraction of how I feel about the turtles sans Mikey:
Leo is an actual dork failing to hide under the many layers of responsibility he feels obligated to uphold, many times to his own detriment (and others). I’m so glad this kid got a Break during Fast Forward he Deserved it!!
Raph is the epitome of sweetheart under a tough exterior. Guy will help an elderly blind woman and let a kid punch him in the face 3 times before going to save his mom while still being able to kick ass and take names.
And Donnie? Guy has piled on so much trauma over the years and still tries to use his intellect for good and gods above someone drag him to a therapist and give him so many hugs. Also, the way he genuinely uses other people’s ideas for his inventions or specifically makes things for his family makes me 😭😭😭😭💕💕💕
Hope this answered your question! And ohhhh! If you want a Really Good insight on the turtles, go read my buddy’s character analyses on them using enneagram!!
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