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celestial-citrus · 2 years
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ok so that sounds totally rad but unfortunately even though I love viddy games I am terrible at all of them and ive heard hk is SUPER hard so I'd probs die too much to get to the cool story 😂
ouuughh yea it's pretty hard. people who do no-hit or no death runs terrify me. i dont think im ever gonna try steel soul. (steel soul is like hardcore mode, one life permadeath deal)
well, any other lore i can think of is: before she went into her deep sleep, one of the three "dreamers" i mentioned before said she would only do it if he gave her a child, so PK and her had the one character hornet together. (she's the pointy one with the pinkish red cloak) so she's half sibs with ghost (the tiny dude you play as) and the hollow knight (the really tall pointy one).
there's another character you run into every so often named quirrel. he's very inquisitive and friendly, but he's still skilled with a nail. (nails are the weapons most of the bugs seem to use, you get to upgrade yours throughout the game.) he was the apprentice to one of the other dreamers monomon she was like a knowledge keeper of sorts. he wandered out of the kingdom and lost his memory (as all bugs do apparently when they leave hallownest) and he came back later and you meet him.
my favorite place in the whole game is the city of tears, the music and the whole vibe is so melancholy and sad? like that's a huge reason i love the game, the worlds already over and everything is empty and gone. you only see and hear echoes of what used to be. :\ the city is raining perpetually and it's a deep shade of blue, the architecture is pretty too.
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i like to stand in front of the statue and listen. it's very peaceful. i have the top pic as my lock screen.
bro idk the game gets me so emotional, it like touches a specific part of my soul. it's beautiful. (id highly suggest listening to the whole soundtrack on spotify or whatever platform you use. ive joked w myself if my story ever got some sort of adaption id like christopher larkin to score it. lolol as if)
one part of the game i haven't really done is the pantheon of hallownest, it's like... you fight the bosses you already have again but... worse. and harder. also the path of pain, it's a really difficult platforming uh, puzzle/map i guess. you get a special cutscene when you complete it. i haven't gotten far at all in it. 🥲 i really want to complete it though.
the bosses are pretty difficult, but once you really get the pattern down pat and get a set of charms you like to work with, it's a lot more tolerable. speaking of that, you can acquire these things called charms which give/boost certiain abilities. you have a limited amount of "charm notches" to fill. i think the ones i like best are quickslash (well, makes your nail quicker), weaversong (gives you little weaver ((spider)) buddies who can damage enemies for you, and sharp shadow. (you gain the ability to dash through things, and equipping this charm makes it so you can damage them too.)
my first round playing HK was a disaster because i have never really played these kind of platform-y boss fight games before. just getting out of the first tiny area in the flipping game was a chore. but then i worked my way up and have beaten one of the hardest bosses twice, so thats... good. i suppose..
oh another thing i should mention if you have options in the game for different endings, depending on the things you pick up, enemies you defeat, and how you fight HK at the 'end' of the game. there's technically like, six endings in total? like you can either kill HK and absorb the infection yourself, enter HK's mind and kill the radiance, have hornet assist you in killing HK and getting you both sealed inside- etc etc.
one sad little part of the game is on one area, the crystal caverns, you meet this little miner bug myla. she sings to herself while she mines, but visiting her over time as the game goes you can see her getting taken over by the infection until eventually at one point she attacks you and you have to kill her :(
one challenge you can do is this pkace called the colosseum of fools. its has 3,,, uhh,, levels i guess you can do. i've only done the first 2, ive always gotten overwhelmed right before the end of the third one. you get geo (hallownest's currency) and some other rewards, like a piece of pale ore you need to upgrade your nail. it's basically wave of enemies and the terrain changes to make things difficult, like having you jump on platforms and putting spikes on the ground.
anywho, a really good person to watch on youtube is mossbag, he does a lot of lore videos, and there's a mod called hollow knight randomizer which is reallllyy funny to me. i'm probably forgetting a lot too lololol
thanks for asking me about stuff 🥺💗
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trueneutralrants · 4 years
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She-Ra and the Princesses of Power and How it Handled Shadow Weaver
I want to talk about She-ra. 
She-ra and the Princesses of Power is a 5 season Netflix cartoon that premiered in November of 2018, and finished it’s 5th and final season barely a year and a half later in May of this year. The final season was extremely well received, due to its strong emotional theme, well-explained complex topics, and the resolution and redemption of one of it’s strongest characters, Catra.
But the show did not hit only home runs, especially in regard to the strong narative of abuse that had been built up in previous seasons, and that's what I'm here to talk about today.
Let's talk about how to write abusive characters in fiction, and more specifically, how She-ra failed in regard to some of those characters.
Now before I get father into this, I want to just say that the final season of She-ra was, in my opinion, a fantastic end to a wonderful series. The amount of good that show did far outweighed any gripes I have with the show itself, and I honestly think it's a wonderful piece of media, albeit one with some missed opportunities.
Anyways, back to the topic at hand.
She-ra is a very personal, character-driven show, with a strong emphasis on the cycle of abuse, and breaking free of said cycle. This is most strongly presented with the character of Shadow Weaver, the mother figure to the 2 main characters, Adora and Catra. Shadow Weaver is emotionally abusive to the both of them, but obviously hold Adora in higher regard than Catra, and gaslights and manipulates Adora significantly more, keeping Catra in check through physical and emotional abuse, while manipulating Adora into believing it is her duty to carry the responsibility for the both of them. If Catra is abused, it is Adora’s fault for not being better.
That’s the set up for the characters, and shapes both Catra and Adora’s actions throughout the series.
In the first season, we see Adora break free from the Horde after realizing that she is on the wrong side of the war, finding friends who she can depend on. She’s even shown an example of a healthy, non-abusive relationship in Glimmer and Angella. On the other side of the war, Catra stays with her abuser, Shadow Weaver. This shapes the conflict between Adora and Catra, as well as Catra’s motivations to take over the Horde., being that since Shadow Weaver has always lusted after power, Catra sees taking power as her only way to ‘best’ her, while still craving Shadow Weaver’s affection. This leads to Catra verbally and emotionally abusing others, most notably Scorpia.
So many of the most toxic behaviors in both Adora and Catra were learned from Shadow Weaver’s upbringing, and throughout the series, we see them struggle to undo what Shadow Weaver ingrained in them. 
But what is Shadow Weaver’s motivations for her actions, her abuse? Is she pure evil? Is it a misplaced sense of responsibility? Part of a scheme?
We know a few things about Shadow Weaver. First, she has always lusted over power. Second, she was once a magician at Mystacor, then fled to the horde when her lust of power led to her exile. Third, she has very little sense of loyalty, going wherever she feels she will be safest or in the highest position of power. She fled to the Horde after Mystacor because she knew she could gain power and influence there as Hordak’s second-in-command. She fled to Bright Moon after the Horde threatened to send her to Beast Island because she knew she could gain a foothold there manipulating Adora, and later, Glimmer. Fourth, she holds the emotions of others in very little regard unless it directly benefits her. 
So hypothetically, someone who has always put herself first, has always lusted after power and has no problem manipulating and abusing people, including children, for her own benefit is put in a situation where the side she is on is at an extreme disadvantage, as it looks near hopeless. Like, say, fighting a galactic emperor with millions of soldier clones. 
How do you redeem a character when the obvious course of action for that character is to jump ship and save herself?
Before I go into how, I should warn any of the 6 people who’ve watched both She-ra and The Promised Neverland that this next section will include spoilers for the first season of the anime.
Meet Mama Isabella. A selfish, abusive mother figure who manipulates and gaslights all the children under her care, essentially selling the children under her care to demons who kill and eat them. She emotionally abuses Ray, her biological son and the one child who discovers the plot, using him as a spy under constant threat of being ‘shipped out’ or killed and served to the demons. Ray grows up watching the other kids live peacefully, knowing that his own mother has been sending her adopted children to die, and one day it will be his turn. When some of the other children discover her plot, she breaks one of the children’s left leg, verbally taunts the other kids present, and ships out one of the children the next day as a threat to the other’s planning to escape. Her abuse was so damaging to Ray that he tried, at the age of 12 years old, to commit suicide by setting himself and the childhood home on fire as a distraction, so the other kids can escape. Overall, she is Shadow Weaver to an extreme, abusive both physically and mentally.
And her redemption is the best written redemption of any abusive parent i’ve ever read.
Reading that, you’re probably thinking I’m a psycho, but no. Here’s the thing about Isabella that makes her such a fantastic villain. She used to be one of the kids at the farm. She used to be like Ray and all the other children. The way the farms work, some of the older female children who get shipped out are allowed to survive, and are put in training to become “moms” or caretakers and enforcers at the farms. They essentially raise children to be slaughtered, as they themselves were raised. It’s horrific, and it’s the only surefire way to survive into adulthood. But the mom’s are replaceable. Isabella is under as much threat of death as anyone else, including the kids. She has what is essentially a taser implanted in her chest, that’ll stop her heart if she escapes or rebels. Ray’s very existence as someone who knows the secret of the farms puts Isabella's life at risk. One mistake, one slip up, and her life is forfeit. Essentially, it’s the kids lives or hers. 
So she justifies shipping the kids off by telling herself she can take such good care of them for their 6-12 years of living that it doesn’t even matter that they died. She is such an inherently selfish person, but she’s understandable. We understand exactly why she’s doing everything she’s doing. 
And then the kids escape, and we realize Isabella is happy for them. We realize in the last few scenes of the first season, that she’s given up hope on living after they escape. The kids, whether they realized it or not, just traded their mother’s life for their own. They outsmarted her, and thus, Isabella must die at the hand of the farm. Isabella has to accept there are no other options before doing one final act of good to help the children, untying the ropes that show where the children escaped from to throw off the demons, essentially buying the children time. 
And by this point, from the point of view of the audience, Isabella is redeemed, even though she didn’t make any heroic sacrifice, or jump in front of a gun for our heroes. She is redeemed through the small, subtle step of untying the ropes. Though that, we are shown that Isabella isn’t resentful or malicious. She doesn’t want the children to be caught. She doesn’t harbor any hope of them capturing the children and bringing them back to the farm. She doesn’t harbor any hope of living, seeing the children’s escape and her eventual death as penance for being complicit in so many deaths over the years. 
 One of the last things we hear her say in the last chapter of the escape arc is this: “I wish I could have just loved them normally.”
And by that point, we understand exactly the kind of person Isabella was, a person who deeply wanted to love, but wanted to survive more, someone who both justified and regretted the things she had done. And that regret, in itself, was her redemption.
Now going back to Shadow Weaver, we notice many of the same traits that made Isabella a good villain are present in Shadow Weaver. Someone who has always put herself first, has always lusted after power and has no problem manipulating and abusing people, including children, for her own benefit. But unlike Isabella, we never understand why Shadow Weaver is doing what she’s doing, except a general sense that she’s doing it for power. If power is truly her only motivation, she should not sacrifice herself for others, and if there is truly love for others inside her heart, there needs to be a more present way to explore it. 
We can tell she hasn’t really changed in season five due to her forcing Adora to carry the burden of the failsafe, despite the fact it could kill her. Unlike Isabella, we never feel that Shadow Weaver is being forced to do bad deeds or manipulate from an outside force or even her own bad habits. She has the freedom to be both a redeemed hero or a full-on villain, but she does.. neither. 
Up until her sacrifice.
I don’t like Shadow Weaver’s sacrifice. If you wanted her out of the picture, you could’ve had her 1. try and join Horde Prime and have him kill her, 2. Have he chipped and forced Adora and Catra to contemplate whether to save her or not or 3. Just kill her without a sacrifice to show the horror of Prime. All three would feel in character and fit well within the story, because if there is one thing Shadow Weaver isn’t presented as at any point in the story, it's a selfless person.
But instead we get... her sacrifice. First of all, it's confusing. The audience doesn’t know whether we’re supposed to feel that Shadow Weaver was redeemed or not. There is a decidedly mixed feeling in her sacrifice, where the show seems to want to be able to pull on our heartstrings, but still knows half the people watching hate this character and another quarter don’t care about her. 
And Adora and Catra also seem conflicted. The one good thing in the scene, at least for me, is that both Shadow Weaver and Catra seem to acknowledge that the sacrifice, it itself, is not selfless. Shadow Weaver is taking the easy way out, going out with a blaze of glory instead of trying to improve herself and atone for her crimes.
I honestly think in previous seasons, or even just in season 5, if Shadow Weaver were to spend more time trying to apologize and made amends to Adora and Catra, or we got some inner monologue or scenes showing how she cares for the children she abused, and feels she made mistakes, then the sacrifice would’ve worked, at least for me. But Shadow Weaver always felt like an antagonistic force, even in the final season when she was squarely a ‘good guy’. There was no point where it felt like she was sorry for her actions, and nothing that justified them.
I honestly think Shadow Weaver shouldn’t have been redeemed. And that’s what it was, redemption through death. It doesn’t work with her characterization in previous seasons, or even season 5, and it felt, for lack of a better word, cheap.
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eepersdoesthings · 3 years
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ok pt two of she ra au aka me not knowing who to put as who and just randomly assigning ppl based on small factors
shrub is entrapta, because small person who is a sort of outcast, also new person and non-elemental princess so yeah
lizzie and joel as mermista and sea hawk (respectively) - what more do i say. its perfect
katherine is perfuma - FLOWERS AND NATURE AND PEACE
ok i didnt rlly know what to put pearl as so i had pearl as frosta - bada** ig
sausage as scorpia - OK HEAR ME OUT - friendly but evil, and also both trying to be magic so yes
joey as shadow weaver - the mysteriousness, the sass, and also evil magical demon person
i dont have anyone for the mother, but i feel like pixl gives off micah vibes.
also yall can make whatever content abt this just like credit me pls ty
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pandoramarsh · 3 years
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hiiii i just finished she ra and like. what now. what am i supposed to do now. live my life? what the fuck. this is some actual bullshit. that cliffhanger. there should be a continuation right? there should be.
UGH CAN WE TALK ABT HOW CATRA IS LITERALLY THAT CHARACTER WHO GETS HER ARC AND WHATEVER and yeah sure that's cool BUT she has to hang out with a bunch of reckless and the most uncool squad in the universe. like literally they're so lame they call themselves the best friend squad like boo what a bunch of losers i would step on fucking legos BAREFOOT for them.
Catra 🤝 Zuko on being redeemed villains who Found their Family in the 'good guys' they tried to kill multiple times before, and realizing that they are really just real fucking Morons.
and adora. ADORAAAA! she is literally the most selfless person ever it's not even healthy anymore. she's such a dumb jock with a heart of gold i love her so effing much. my baby. my life. my everything.
GLIMMAH. my bad bitch. lost a parent, argued constantly w the living one, lost the living parent, fucked up big time, found out the first dead parent wasn't actually dead after all, was forced to fight with Dead Parent But Not Really who is also the greatest sorcerer of all time and WON. i knew from day one she's gonna be the hated most in the fandom because YALL IDIOTS. i fucking love her and i dont stand for no glimmah slanda
bow. FUCKING BOW. the king of the kings of cinnamon rolls. literally was nice to everyone even to the people he holds hostages. kind of naive on his part but he got adora to trust him so yeah. easily lovable. the Rational Adult Baby of the group. gave the most amazing pep talks that he even got the WHOLE FUCKING PLANET to fight back. amazing. just. take away my kisses you amazing fucking bananaboat.
no rant here but i just want to say i love frosta with my whole heart and she does not deserve to bear the burden of a whole ass kingdom and be a fucking child soldier in the middle of a motherfucking war at only fucking eleven and three quarters. i love this amazing and aggresive fucknugget to DEATH.
ok so. ahem. this is the hard part cuz hahahahahaha like. this is gonna get so many disagreements but,,, i actually forgave shadow weaver. YES I FUCKING KNOW I KNOW i hated her for the entirety of the show until the last 2 episodes. in The Heart Part 1, i saw all of the clues, the foreshadowing, leading to her sacrifice. and really, YES she is an abuser. both to catra and adora (i actually fucking whimpered when SW touched catra and she flinched so hard). and i know, she's not a good person. i know her sacrifice isn't some last selfless act of goodwill shit. but what it is, is something she wants to do because she realizes what a shitty person she was. we all know she favors adora, but remember that tunnel moment/face off of SW, Glimmer, and Catra in uhhh season 4 i think? when catra straight out told her that she was and always would come back to and for adora? SW didn't say yes, what she said was something along the lines of she did it bc she wanted to destroy hordak. and i really think, that it wasn't her intention to abuse those kids. when adora called her out on her horse shit in Failsafe, she was actually taken back. she is literally that character that is a firm believer of The Greater Good, No Matter What. and yes, she's power hungry, but in the end, she managed to let her desire go to sacrifice herself didn't she? she's not a hero, and she emotionally (and also physically) scars catra and adora for life, but i genuinely don't think she Knows She's Evil and Continues To Do Evil Things. her character is way more complex than that. and I KNOW that what she's done are irredeemable actions, but i can't find it in myself to hate her. and it's easy to forgive her when you're a third-party watcher.
just. this show is incredibly beautiful. it hits you in all the right feels. its a KIDS' SHOW. what the hell, but it portrays wonderful messages the right way. beautiful animation, fantastic characters, THE DIVERSITY AAAHHH, the various moral lessons and solutions to real life problems, and the OUT OF THIS FUCKING WORLD PLOTLINE.
so now I'm gonna ask again. what the fuck am i supposed to do now.
oh and also legit question, who the FUCK is finn? I LITERALLY THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO SEE CATRADORA'S KID ONSCREEN YALL GOT ME FOOLED SO BAD I FUCKING HATE YOU ALL.
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catradora, glimmerdora, kiribaku, amityxluz for ship thing
bestie it was for characters not ships but ill make it work
catradora: they are so iconic i literally cheered and clapped at the kiss. they said fuck enemies to lovers we're doing friends to enemies to friends to lovers. fav line is the fucking dip and "maybe it already has ;)" that entire scene had no right to be that sexy sir this is a kids show i just know that was the sexual awakening for hundreds of small lesbians. random hc i think catra makes kekeke sounds at her food and adora loves it. unpopular opinion i think catra is bi ive seen people say shes canonically lesbian but literally never seen noelle say that im p sure people just say that cuz shes butch but butch bis own my heart so shes bi. also adora is white passing latina. songs i associate with them are twin size mattress by the front bottoms and sober intentions by apes of the state. fav pic of them is the aforementioned dip.
glimmerdora: i prefer them as a brotp but i can appreciate the femme4femme vibes. least fav thing was in s4 glimmer being nice to shadow weaver i felt really bad for adora :( like i know catra was also Not Great but catra was also abused so i understand why she was like that. that part just hit a little too close to home but im assuming she apologized for that at some point. random hc um hindu glimmer that doesnt really have anything to do with glimmerdora but i like it and its the first thing that came to my head so. OH i def think adora and catra have some religious trauma tho so maybe she gets them into hinduism? that would be sweet. fav pic is them chillin in the bath.
kiribaku: i only watched like the first two seasons of this show and then stopped bc i realized it was not going to get interesting. bakugou is a little bitch and i hate him and i do not care about kirishima. i dont remember if they ever interacted. maybe kirishima can make bakugou less of a little bitch idk. random hc bakugou is gay and homophobic. unpopular opinion the show is boring
lumity: iconic iconic dont even look at me theyre so good literally my middle school selfs dream they are so precious literally only relationship ever. least fav thing absolutely nothing they are perfect. fav line is "oh wow sports" idk why but it is very relatable. random hc luz writes fanfiction that is very clearly supposed to be about her and amity and it sucks ass but amity loves it anyway. also autism4autism rights. unpopular opinion idk they are very good. songs i associate with them little miss perfect by taylor louderman and she by dodie. fav pic is the one where theyre dancing and their noses almost touch i just really appreciate the romantic tension of dancing ok even though i cant dance.
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aswellingstorm · 3 years
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taylor swift x catradora playlist
in honor of evermore dropping tonight (midnight, EST) i humbly present the following by album break down of songs that miss swift wrote solely for catradora
taylor swift (2006)
tied together with a smile--the struggle adora faces being the hero/put on a pedestal from her horde days to becoming she ra
invisible--catra facing jealousy over adora’s new friendships
i’m only me when i’m with you--young catradora/growing up in the horde
fearless (2008)
forever & always-- broken promise. need i say more
white horse-- catra’s resentment for adora’s hero complex
breathe-- mutual catra & adora--struggling to cope with the other choosing the opposing side
you’re not sorry--adora coming to terms w post s3 catra & having to accept her former best friend has gone too far this time
change-- post s1 victory for adora
speak now (2010)
the story of us--princess prom catradora vibes
mean--unfortunately.........could see the best friend squad singing this therapeutically & adora thinking of catra
better than revenge-- ‘stealing other peoples toys on the playground won’t make you many friends//i’m just another thing for you to roll your eyes at honey’....jealous catra really comes thru here
innocent-- feel like this could be applied to adora but more specifically catra losing herself and her innocence in this war/getting caught in the cycle of abuse shadow weaver set her in at a young age
if this were a movie-- adora’s naïve hope that catra might make the right choice one day
haunted-- ‘all this time you and i have walked a fragile line, never thought i’d live to see it break’, easily fits into adora leaving the horde, but def has the angsty vibes for ‘save the cat’
back to december--regret. longing. wishing u could take something back but knowing you really cant
enchanted--ok hear me out. not necessarily a ‘meet cute’ for them, but could def see this song playing at a princess prom post s5 and being a cute look for them over all.
red (2012)
treacherous--post ‘save the cat’, catra learning redemption is....something she Wants
the last time--post-portal. def reminds me of the scene where catra saves glimmer and apologizes to adora
sad beautiful tragic-- break up sadness
the lucky one--more adora becoming she ra/learning the truth of mara
i almost do--catra & adora missing each other on opposite sides of the war
come back...be here--^^
state of grace--end of/post s5
1989 (2014)
out of the woods--i mean..........those ladies entered the whispering woods in s1 on a stolen skiff and did not leave until the end of the series
all you had to do was stay-- aside from the title... “let me remind you this was what you wanted // you ended it// you were all I wanted //but not like this”. def catra yearning
i wish you would--all of the lyrics. all of them
bad blood--warrants no explanation
this love-- “when you’re young, you just run// but you always come back to what you need”......................the defense rests
clean--s4 adora accepting and coming to terms w catra’s decision
wonderland-- really captures the betrayal/hurt of s1 catradora
you are in love-- adora POV// subtle moments leading up to realizing she loves catra
new romantics--”we need love, but all we want is danger//we team up then switch sides like a record changer”
catra’s personal memoir reputation (2017)
i did something bad--a title that could (unfortunately for everyone else) summarize a large majority of catra’s decisions. the song is very justified/righteous anger/revenge. basically a ‘fuck you, i know i’m bad’ & embracing that. reminds me of her kicking sw & hordaks ass (the rebellion could never) and her just...war criming it up in the crimson waste
Look What You Made Me Do-- void!catra void!catra void!catra void!catra void!catra void!catra--
getaway car--could see this from adora’s perspective to catra solely for the whole leaving/betrayal bit. but might be more fighting for double trouble & catra’s relationship
dancing with our hands tied-- i mean...lyrically. everything. but esp ‘I'd kiss you as the lights went out//swaying as the room burned down//I'd hold you as the water rushes in//If I could dance with you again”
dress-- “i dont want you like a best friend”. period. end of sentence. 
this is why we can’t have nice things--s1 promise feels. the lack of forgiveness, the shade. u know.
lover (2019)
cruel summer-- “i scream for whatever it’s worth, i love you--ain’t that the worst thing you ever heard?” the heart. the longing. the ‘i dont want to keep secrets just to keep you’
the archer-- ‘who could ever leave me, but who could stay?’ + the rest of the song is v fitting for both catra/adora
afterglow--making up, admitting wrongs--catra perspective
miss americana & the heartbreak prince--idk just the narrative of the song reminds me of them
it’s nice to have a friend--whooooh boy this post is not about glimbow but this song works equally as well for them
daylight--enjoy the healing
lover--enjoy the healing pt 2
death by a thousand cuts-- warrants 0 explanation
folklore (2020)
finally
the 1-- definitley adora POV, reminiscing on maybe what they could have been. maybe in a world where catra never redeemed herself or they never reunited and adora watched her friends pair up/get married/build lives w each other, she might realize there is a whole in her heart. a part that’s missing and cant be explained, but she feels it every time she looks at glimmer&bow. 
cardigan-- feels like catra writing a letter to adora. reflecting on the feelings of hurt and betrayal after time has passed and the anger fades
exile -- lowkey the premise of my fic but. ‘i’m not your problem anymore/ you were my crown/ now i’m in exile seeing you out’ catra was raised to feel like she was adora’s problem to fix. she feels cast aside by her for a majority of the series etc
my tears ricochet-- “i didn't have it in myself to go with grace//and you're the hero flying around saving face//and if I'm dead to you why are you at the wake?//cursing my name, wishing I stayed//look at how my tears ricochet” tswift explained this in the doc about how no one can hurt you like your best friend turned enemy. so i think in that sense this song works from adora’s perspective--but there’s so much bitterness and anger that i feel like it fits more from catra’s POV
seven-- “love you to the moon and to saturn//passed down like folksongs//the love lasts so long” i feel like this is so young/child adora and her feelings of protectiveness over catra. their bond through trauma and abuse
august--lmaoooooo i know. ok i KNOW what the deal is. i KNOW that cardigan, august and betty are a narrative story and really there are 3 POVs--james, betty & august. but i will do with that what i please. i just see catra’s pov from this song just as much as i see it for cardigan. her losing adora/feeling like adora doesn’t want her back or will choose other ppl over her. 
this is me trying--can fit adora’s need to be everything for everyone/fear of failure--leading to burn out. also works for what i assume how catra’s redemption arc continued post s5. progress isn’t linear and this can show both of them struggling to recover from abuse
invisible string--if u strip out the imagery of taylor and her mans then sure
mad woman--i MEAN...is this not catra’s villain origin story? so often she was just poked/kicked/provoked into continuing down the dark path. not always by adora but regardless.
epiphany-- ‘with you i serve, with you i fall down’ reminding me of them both fighting/practicing/training together pre-s1 as well as them finally teaming up
betty--betty betty betty. the worst thing these two have ever done is what they did to each other. i see it more catra to adora, but it can go either way. gotta admire catra’s range for fitting into the role of betty, august + james... who else is doing it quite like her?
peace-- adora to catra. she can never not be she ra. is that enough for catra?
hoax--def more of a catra POV
evermore (2020?)
tbd......
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catradoraism · 4 years
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R/ylo vs Catradora: What Do We Like About Enemies-to-Lovers Romance? (or: I Can’t Believe Someone Paid Me $6 To Write This)
I am never putting this much effort into discourse again, i dont even like discourse whoever commissioned me for this i hope this is worth ur money fdjndjdnfd
(tw: mentions of r*pe and abuse)
Ok les get into it yuhh. Enemies to lovers 101 
1. Power balance.
Despite everything shadow weaver says (and what catra believed), Catra and Adora are equals, it’s reiterated over and over again in the show. Even in the theme song itself where Catra and Adora are butting heads, they’re clearly intended to be framed as equals. R/ylo, in spite of all narrative attempts, never really seem to come off as equals. It is just not executed well. They tried.
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imo, r/ylo was doomed the second they had literally their first conversation. there's a lot of things a pairing can do to each other during the enemies stage of enemies which falls under ‘Extremely Awful But We Are Enemies So This Is Kinda Expected’ territory. it’s why theres always attempted murder and sometimes even a bit of stabbing during this stage but this is not abusive (a word antis seem to love to throw around a lot, i’ll get into why this isn’t abusive later). however, there is a certain (but hard to define) line that if Crossed, the enemies should never have a romantic arc. kylo crosses this line in their first interaction.
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the director of the force awakens, jj abrams described this scene as a “violent mind r*pe.” considering hes,, the Director, it shows that r/ylo was not at all intended to be seen as romantic. At all. (until tlj but addressing that later). (and death of the author whatever but if the author intends this to be a violent assault scene and you choose to ignore that? yikes). not to mention, the fact that this scene is an allegory for r*pe uh,, don’t ship them? also kylo is fuckin 30 and rey is 19, that only adds to the power imbalance. the line “you know i can take whatever i want” is enough to make my skin crawl. 
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as this person puts it it’s not romance, this is violation, and That is what immediately established the power imbalance between them.
as a standalone scene, if rey and kylo were only meant to be enemies, this scene wouldve been fine. Its unnerving and highly disturbing, but in the context of an enemies relationship, fine. But considering how they’re being set up to be love interests, Not Very Good!! Also the dyad was an incredibly lazy narrative tool can i say that. It was.
This is such a dumb fucking sentence to write but this is a catradora/ r//ylo comparison so whatever - catra never crosses this line. Yeah she fucking ended the world and indirectly killed angella but she doesnt do anything like this to adora which is a low fucking bar for love interests im aware Okay but i am talking about their relationship as Enemies. Would like to reiterate, im not saying “do not violate ur partner” is the bar here. I am saying that violating ur Enemy is perhaps a Bad setup for a romance. there r a lot of enemies to lovers romances that work bc they dont have this set up.
2. The Fallout
“You’re nothing. But not to me.” / “Let’s be honest, all of this is your fault.”
before I talk about these scenes let’s address smth. an enemies to lovers dynamic, despite what antis say, is not inherently abusive. this is because abuse occurs in relationships that are rooted in trust (I’m aware there’s a more general definition that is used to define all forms of mistreatment in general but for the sake of this argument I’m referring to relationship abuse). For example, mean classmate who you hate tells you that you are worthless. Hurts yes, may lower your self esteem, shitty thing to do but you wouldn’t label them an abuser. If your SO however, said you were worthless, THAT’S emotional abuse. Technicality and semantics i know but they’re important distinctions to make. This is why people can’t say Catra’s actions towards Adora were abusive without taking into consideration the context of their relationship as Enemies. The antagonistic nature of the enemy relationship cannot be classified as abusive since there is no trust during the enemies stage. If Catra and Adora were in a romantic relationship during the earlier seasons then yeah that would be abuse and i sure as fuc wouldnt be a catradora blog lmao. But they were enemies! So their current romantic relationship?? Not abusive. Wow. What A Concept. Now let’s discuss these scenes.
“You’re nothing. But not to me.” / “Let’s be honest, all of this is your fault.”
On the surface? These scenes are parallels, they’re both attempts at manipulating the hero AND they’re in the final lines before the Fallout. but lets look closer at the words and the context of r/ylo and catradora’s relationships during these scenes.
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at this point in time, rey trusts kylo, he just killed snoke and they fought off the ?? soldiers ?? together. Here he demeans her, tells her she’s worthless, and says but Not To Me. by doing this hes basically saying oh ur nothing but babey, i am the One who can validate u mamas lemme show u how to get that sexy self worth can u tell i stopped caring fnjdjd. But yes the implications of this line suck bc 1) kylo is saying she’s worthless and that He is the only one who sees her as having worth, 2) since rey and kylo trust each other during this scene (and this scene is also romantically coded, he basically proposed marriage), this can easily be seen as a sign of emotional abuse (isolating the victim from their friends/family, attempting to make them depend solely on the abuser’s perception of them). and bc there is trust, kylo can manipulate rey into feeling guilty. now i know the r/ylos say “read between the lines” bc he’s not saying rey is worthless he’s saying rey means something to him, he is just projecting. and yk what? i agree, i don’t think kylos intentions were malicious i actually agree w their interpretation of this line However. the impact of the words will always outweigh the intention. that may not be what kylo truly means but it’s what rey hears. an unintentional guilt trip is still a guilt trip. it’s kind of the same way someone may threaten to hurt themselves if their partner leaves them, their intentions while not necessarily evil, are still extremely harmful and is Guilting. impact > intention. 
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bad. yeah catra fuckin sucks for saying this. demeaning adora. but at the point of fallout, unlike rey and kylo’s fallout, catra and adora don’t trust each other. the guilt trip here is not so much abuse as it is more classic enemy behaviour. also, unlike r/ylo, catradora are still equals. the r/ylo power imbalance kinda makes their fallout scene more gross bc he’s basically exerting power over rey,, again. but catra and adora are always on equal footing. Catra never had the upper hand on adora in the same way kylo did for rey (again referring to the torture scene and many other scenes) now lets look at rey and adora’s reactions
“Don’t do this Ben. Please don’t go this way” / “Now live with it.”
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rey’s reaction is rly heartbreaking here, she trusts kylo and believes there is good in him so she begs him not to go down the path of villainy again. this scene parallels a common experience with abuse victims, they see their abuser reverting to their old ways after a period of Good, they think everything will be fine again until, regression.
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adora on the other hand, doesnt trust catra and severs her ties. Unlike rey who is placed in a vulnerable position and is reluctant to give up, adora gives up on catra. If im being honest the entire fallout scene in s3 is the reason why catra’s “you have never given up not even on me” confession line didnt rly?? Resonate w me. Like the climax of s3 WAS that adora had to give up on her. Its much more complex than that i know, like adora gave up but still had hope? Idk this isnt a meta about that scene its just smth i thought id bring up. 
Ok so to summarise fallout scenes
Character A and B trust each other and A who has constantly exerted power over B and does so again to guilt B into staying. bad
Character A and B are equals but A goes way too far and the ties are completely severed. better. then they start their separate arcs and wooooo redemption
3. Accountability.  
“I did want to take your hand. Ben’s hand.” / “If you think hiding from the people you hurt is gonna make you feel better, then we’ll drop you off the nearest planet and you’ll never have to see us again.”
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Yeaahhhh babey lets talk about all the reasons wrong with THISSSS. Very clever i think. Treating ben and kylo as if they were separate entities lmfaooooo. They r the same fuckin person. Ive seen it in r/ylo chatacterisations, kylo is the evil villain and ben is the soft boy. Kylo ren is his evil persona yes, its a mask he puts on to hide his true emotions (catra does the same, she has a villain persona she puts on) but to treat kylo as if he was a separate being to ben??? Uhhhhh bad. It basically relieves him of all accountability for his actions bc it ‘wasn’t him’. This isnt rey’s intention ofc, shes trying to strip that villain persona away and make him more vulnerable. But unfortunately the impact is that ppl see kylo as a separate entity, ben didnt kill han solo, kylo did, ben didnt slaughtered a bunch of ppl, kylo did. U see the problem here?
“If you think hiding from the people you hurt is gonna make you feel better, then we’ll drop you off the nearest planet and you’ll never have to see us again.” 
Yeah i have my issues w catra’s redemption, like most ppl i wish angella’s death was addressed, as well as catra being terrible to scorpia and her part in taking over salineas. I thought catradora’s development was for the most part, well executed but they certainly sidelined a lot of issues i wish couldve been explored in favour of catra and adora’s reconciliation. Its not rly a surprise that they would be the focus considering they are the main conflict of the show and therefore would have centre focus reconciling but yeah wish the other issues were addressed. That being said i think catra readily takes accountability for what she’s done and faces it head on (obvsly not all of it but yeah mostly what shes done to adora), i also never rly saw her redemption as a complete one, it seemed to be framed as the beginning of a lot more work to be done, but shes getting there. 
Also kylo is a grown ass man who commits murder as his first act on screen and catra (while she did horrible things and was an awfully toxic person) is trapped in a vicious cycle of abuse and is humanised pretty much every season. Choose ur fighter lmao
In summary. r/ylo bad, catradora good. Thank u for coming to tedtalk was this worth $6? I have no fucking idea
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horde-princess · 5 years
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people have been talking about how this season showed that what catra really wants deep down is not power over adora, but her love. i felt like it was true intuitively but i’ve been wondering HOW after everything we’ve seen catra do, and i just had a revelation ok so
in 3x05 when adora’s like “is that what you really want? to rule the world?” and catra kind of stutters “yeah obviously... isn’t that what you want too?...” the voice acting and the animation seem to imply that she was lying (i’m posting the clip for reference). 
everytime catra talked about them ruling together in season 1, i assumed it was catra’s idea because of how she was shown to resent being second-place to adora in the horde. but i don’t think catra is as ambitious as they made her out to be in the first two seasons.
if you need more convincing on this: as @gay-for-applebees pointed out here, scorpia offered her the possibility of ruling in the crimson waste, but when catra realized she would have to let go of adora, she lost all interest in it. and @spiribia made the point here that in the “perfect world” au catra was happy even though adora was her boss and she wasn’t in a position of power because she had everyone’s love and respect. also, remember in 1x01 Catra was totally thrilled about Adora’s promotion--until she realized she wasn’t allowed to go with her. And in Promise when Catra admits she always wanted to be a force captain, what that truly stemmed from was just her wanting to earn parental love. so all of this points towards catra not actually caring about having power (an important difference between her and shadow weaver... but i digress alsjdlfs).
so why would catra say that ruling the world was something her and adora had always dreamed about if it wasnt true? well, note how she always says “we,” never “i.” because Catra didn’t care about ruling--she just thought that Adora did.
before i go on let me say that adora’s ambition was 100% a product of shadow weaver’s brainwashing. so that’s what i mean when i talk about her, and it’s also  what makes all of this so unbearably tragic. ok anyway
in 1x05 catra says becoming a force captain, a prestigious leader in the horde, was "the thing [adora] wanted most in the world.” she saw how hard adora had worked for that promotion and she assumed adora wanted to rule someday.
so i think that catra’s “dream” of ruling alongside adora was really just an attempt to satisfy adora’s ambition, not her own. LISTEN ARE U LISTENING catra was afraid that adora wouldn’t care about her unless she was willing to act as adora’s side kick. so what we see in 3x05 is the relationship dynamic catra had always imagined between them... it wasn’t ideal but she was happy as long as she was with adora, as long as she had her attention and protection. it didnt matter if they weren’t equals. catra was okay with that. she was okay with trading her agency for adora’s affection.
that’s not a small sacrifice. that’s everything. so when adora left her, to catra it was basically like she was spitting on catra’s devotion to her. 
i dont know if this is making sense i hope it is because like even as i type this i’m seeing catra’s character in a completely new light. i used to think she resented adora growing up because she was ambitious and felt like adora’s success was indirectly responsible for her abuse. but really, we watched catra’s thirst for power develop out of NOWHERE after adora left, with no intrinsic basis (it was partly to protect herself, partly to demand adora’s respect, and partly to get revenge).
so coming back to this video yall this shit is breathtaking... catra is hiding the way she really feels about adora, wrapping it up in this fake idea of “oh, i want to rule, and you want to rule, and we’re buds right so why don’t we just rule together?” and adora challenges her on that, asking what it is she really wants. and catra can’t very well be like “idk marry you maybe?” so she sticks with her lie WHILE AT THE SAME TIME kind of reaching out to adora, seeking her own answers. the way catra asks “isn’t that what you want, too?” it’s almost like a feeble attempt to break the cycle of miscommunication, almost like she’s praying for adora to just be like “honestly? i’d be happy anywhere if you were there with me.”
................... ok thats all. goodnight
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blueskittlesart · 4 years
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Ok but how do you feel about entrapdak?
immm kinda unsure how to feel about them tbh. i think hordak’s redemption was much more well done than i expected but it definitely doesnt completely absolve him of the things he did. he was kinda glossed over at the end which like ok i understand they wanted to focus on the best friend squad but i do wish they had mentioned it beyond mermista’s one line because he did a lot of damage to the planet and abused catra, adora, and the rest of the horde kids and... didnt really apologize. like yes he tried to kill prime but the fact that he was responsible for the horrible environment that catra adora and the rest of the horde kids grew up in wasn’t acknowledged, nor was his emotional manipulation/abuse of catra or the general damage he did to etheria. he was shown to be on level with shadow weaver in the first few seasons and the fact that so little time was spent on him in the end of the show kindaaaa idk. i rlly dont know how to feel about entrap/dak fdsfghj i just kinda wish horak was acknowledged as someone who hurt people
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endlessshower · 3 years
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OC-interested anon! Thank you for answering :D For now... can I ask if you have a list of all your OCs? :0c Possibly with brief overview(s) of the world(s) they exist in? If there's Too Many, then maybe just your Important ones / your favorites?
WHOOOO BOI ANON U SWEET THING
ok so like i have a LOT of ocs, some i use more then others, so for the sake of brevity, ill list my faves for now;
I’ll start with the god ocs;
Cael-- Cael is the main god, the one most well known and worshiped. Hes youthful but has an old soul, and the Great Sunder thrust him into his position. Hes the god of dusk, life, the wind and sky. The Sun and Moon left the world, so he is the soul source of light, but their “day” is a short dusk, otherwise its a world of eternal night. Hes very kind, but troubled. He wears an amulet his mother gave him long ago, and its his most important possession.
Noctis is next, I dont have an updated picture on him yet though oof. Hes the god of order, magical study, secrets and rest. He is most revered by mages and those seeking magical pursuits, and is most likely to speak for Cael, who is still young in terms of a god, and Noctis often takes the brunt of god hood leg work. He is stoic and proper, ad ensures that the new world is running smoothly as it heals and settles from the Great Sunder.
Now we have Syrilium, or as hes better known, the Weaver. The Weaver is a young god as well, and was asleep for a very long time. He is now the deity of dreams, and the source of the Great Sunder, changing magic as we all know it forever. His influence and raw power surged forth upon his awakening, and Noctis helped to soften the blow to the world, but many things were still lost. (if you want to know how the magic system works btw, im focusing on ocs for now in this post XD) The Weaver is called thus by the Dream Elves, for he weaves transpires of dreams, and can even make dreams into physical tapestries. He is kind, soft spoken, and very shy. Still learning how to be awake.
Nithernal is next, also known as Nith, goddess of self love, care and magical energy. She’s made of pure night magic, and is very old. She sleeps a lot, and is very physically fragile, and shes often kept safe in her caverns and by the other gods. Originally her night realm was separate from the Drown (EverDrown is the name of my world) as she had made it herself, but after the Great Sunder, her night realm became one with the waking one, so dreams and reality (and magic) are melded together and far more accessible. She is kind, gentle, and wears her heart on her sleeve. (she has a lot of lore too if you wanna hear about that my goodness)
Then we have Lady of the Void, or just Lady Void, very little is known of her just yet. Shes a work in progress~
I had more gods in the past, but they have now either gone MIA, or are in a form of deathlike slumber. (Many think the Old Gods have died, but some of their slumbering giant bodies are still laying about; others have taken on disguises and travel)
Here are some of my other ocs in no particular order
Ater- Old Vampire god, no longer active. Location is unknown.
Gelu- Old god of finery, friendship, and ice mages. A woman of her likeness has been spotted roaming old trails. 
Hebes- Old God of the sun. Sleeping.
Darkpool- Old god of heroes, lycanthropes, and shadow magic. Also a notorious Realm Jumper. He could be anywhere. But hes certainly not here.
Som- Old God of demons, strength, justice. She slumbers deep below the earth. Don’t drink her blood, no matter what the cult tells you.
Archivist- Old God of knowledge. She’s still active, but no one has seen her in centuries. Only her faithful Thought and Memory creatures venture out from her grand hidden library. And they will tell you nothing.
Arva- A Brigand (Brigand is the name of the race, they aren't actually criminals XD) A plant being made of magic. Made by Nithernal to be exact! Hes very sweet and fragile just like the rest of his kind. Essentially a sentient flower that lives on moonlight.
Aithlin, and his brother Myrrh- Dream Elves. Aithlin is a young elven youth whose always wanting to go out and seek adventure, whilst his brother is traditional and gets annoyed by his naivety. Dream Elves grow antlers, and it shows age. Myrrh has a full rack, Aithlin is just getting his in.
Iett- A strange demon or spirit of Silence. Some seek her aid for focus and accuracy, though shes not a formal god. it is common to see hunters and warriors have a small idol of her in their home.
That’s... just a few XD I don't want this too get too long oof, because i have several dragon ocs, demons, and elves (glass elves, wood elves, Dream elves) I have this all existing in one world. What you should know is im super indulgent with what i come up with, and its very high fantasy. I’m sorry if its so vague but thats the gist XD
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ruffiorocks · 4 years
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She Ra! This show was amazing! (Long post)
Omg! I stayed up until 4.00am to binge watch the last season of She Ra. I'm gutted that before I put it on I opened Twitter for a second and the Catradora kiss was ruined for me! 😞
But what a bloody season! What a show! I grew up watching the original She Ra and the original He Man. Mine and brothers favourite movie was "The Secret of the Sword" (the He Man and She Ra film where she is first introduced). That show was brilliant for its day, it depicted strong women who didn't need men to save them. Plus She Ra was so much better than He Man, she could heal people, talk to animals and turn her sword into anything she liked! She also had a flying unicorn that could talk! What else could a girl want in a show?
When I heard this was going to be revived I was a bit apprehensive, especially after the failed He Man reboot and the failed Thunder Cats one. (Dont even get me started on that monstrosity they call a reboot! At least the anime version was cool).
I decided to give the show a watch, convincing myself that is was for nostalgic purposes only, and wow! I could not stop watching it!
This version is great, because it wasn't trying to be the same as the original. The basic premise was the same but the story and the characters were fleshed out so much more. The relationships between the characters was just something else. I loved how they de-aged them, so it was teenagers and not adults this time.
Making Adora and Catra best friends? I loved it! The fact that this friendship/enemies story between the two became the heart of this show was something else. The original series had Catra being jealous of Adora and becoming a force Captain after Adora left but that was the extent of their relationship.
I love how Hordak wasn't even all the fussed about conquering Etheria. He had so much more depth to him than the original one did. OG Hordak was a bumbling idiot who laughed evilly and could turn himself into rockets and canons. The most interesting thing about him was he used to be Skeletors mentor. The very idea or Hordak caring for anything or anyone other than imp was unthinkable. This Hordak has a tragic back story, he's had it rough, he has a specific goal and conquering Etheria seems to become less and less important to him. He's even able to form a close friendship with Entrapta.
Shadow Weaver being a maternal figure for Adora was something the original had but wasn't mentioned much at all. The fact that she was the foster mother of both Catra and Adora and favoured Adora to the point of obsession in getting her back gave the back story so much more. The fact that Shadow weaver is more connected to the other characters and has her own back story and then a redemption, I love it.
I also love how the relationship between Shadow Weaver and Catra was really explored. It made Catra so much more than just a boring villain of the week when you see the neglect and abuse she went through. How her only solice was Adora, you can totally understand why she feels broken when Adora leaves everything they both know. But I also love how even though she was villian she kept her sense of humour and she just couldnt get over Adora no matter how hard she tried to.
Glimmer? So much more character than the original. Her relationship with her mother was brilliant. Angela was so funny and I was gutted when she died. In the original it was Angela that had been gone a long time and had to be rescued by He Man and She Ra to be reunited with Glimmer. Her father didn't show up, but it was rumoured that a mysterious red knight who Angela thought she knew could have been him.
Bow? This bow was amazing with all of his tech and his sass and his sensitivity. The original bow was OK but he wasn't the character you watched the show for. I'm also glad they didnt have him pining for She Ra like the OG did. The fact he has two gay dads was amazing! I do wish they had kept Kowl though.
Swift Wind is hands down by favourite side character! That horse is so sassy he just make me crack up no matter what he does. I'm glad they did him justice, because when I was younger I always wanted a white horse and to call it Spirit like the Original She Ra and so that meant a lot that they just improved on him.
I love how everyone knows who Adora is, there is no secret identity.
The fact that the princesses have so much more personality and backstory than their OG counter parts did is brilliant. My absolute favourite is Mermista!
Scorpia? I love how she wasn't just a bad guy like her OG counter part was. This character is so much more interesting. She goes on her own journey, she doesn't even seem to grasp what she's doing half the time because she is just desperate to have friends. She never gave up on her friendship with Catra, even when Catra didn't want her she was still there. I love that.
Sea Hawk? Omg! One of my favourites! A far cry from his OG character. I'm so glad they didnt have him and Adora as a couple like the OG did! "ADVENTURE!!"
This show had everything! So much more humour than the OG one. It allowed violence as well which is something the OG one didn't allow. If you ever watch it you'll notice She Ra doesn't hit any one who is alive (Robots don't count) she would beat them in ways they couldn't be harmed, like she ra throwing into mud or water. But this? This show has some ass kicking going on!
The shape of the characters is also brilliant. I love how Glimmer is slightly bigger than than the other characters. How we have them in all shapes and sizes. The OG characters were always drawn using the same template. The footage was also constantly reused in every episode.
Now for the change I love the most! The LGBTQ rep! This would have been unthinkable when the OG show was on! No one would have dared suggest it. (Although He Man always had gay under tones, especially after the live action movie happened). But when I was watching this show being gay wasn't something people discussed and certainly not with children. The most we saw was the occasional gay couple on a soap. For me it was Tony and Simon in Eastenders and Zoe Tate on Emmerdale. But a children's show? NEVER!
I wish I had had this show when I was a kid. It took me until i became an adult to admit that I liked women. If I had had this show and these characters in my life perhaps things would have been easier. It would have helped me understand myself better. Unfortunately for the time it still would have been frowned upon and even though my family are much more accepting after a lot of education I don't think I would have been allowed to watch this show this way when I was a kid.
But kids now are so lucky! They are exposed to the LGBT every day. It's everywhere! It isn't hiding anymore, it's so much more accepted. Even when I was a teen at school a lot of gay people were still in the "we know you exist but we don't want to know about it" phase.
This show handled it so well!! There was no coming out story line, no trying to figure out why they had these feelings. It was treated the exact same way any hetro storyline would be. The fact that there was a canon lesbian couple from the get go said it all. As the seasons went in they progressed and gave us Bows gay dad's. They had Adora crushing on women. They didn't even try to hide what they were doing with Catra and Adora. I love how this last season gave more screen time and story to Spinereella and Netalia rather than them just "being there". It was just handled so well. None of the characters battered an eye lid at the thought of Adora and Catra as a couple. I'm just gutted its over. They even gave us an epilogue!!
Last point, maybe it's an unpopular opinion but I feel like they didn't need to put Glimmer and Bow together. I always adored how they had this wonderful best friend relationship between a boy and girl that didn't need to end in them falling in love. I never saw them as a couple, just best friends. Plus I always saw Bow as asexual.
Catradora reminds me so much of Supercorp from Supergirl. It gives me hope that maybe the show will be brave and give us a canon Lena and Kara. But I won't hold my breath 😅
All the kudos to She Ra!
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appsa · 4 years
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I’m loving seeing all your thoughts on these different topics! If you like, I’d love to hear more of your thoughts on Bow! I completely agree that he deserves to be discussed more, he is absolutely wonderful.
So Many Thoughts on bow and family, thank u for giving me the opportunity to go off with this
Hc that while the reason bow never came out to his dads as a rebel was because of the whole 'my dads dont want anything to do with the war' part of it, it was also because like,
His dads are Historiahns and glimmer's mother is An Immortal Queen
Do You Think They Would Ever Forgive Him For Hiding Such A Crucial Source of Historic Data
Bow's nightmare scenario is that his dads are invited to bright moon castle for family dinner and halfway thru either george or lance (worst case-- both) start grilling his crush's scary as hell mom about the bright moon dancing plague 200 years ago
Which i mean. Valid but also like... i can easily see Angella and the dads just taking turns roasting their kids during the entire thing ("when glimmer first became friends with bow, my stars, it was the only thing she'd talk about for days. Hm, still is that way actually--" "MOM--" "oh how funny!! Bow on the other hand kept this entire aspect of his life hidden from us so we had no clue haha!!" *bow just buries his head in his hands*)
Big fan of the thought that Angella loosens up after knocking back a few drinks and just goes on some full on drunk history rants about events that happened during her rule. Meanwhile bows dads frantically take notes of everything she says
(Ok but for real, ig the real reason bow never let either side know of the others existence was because i dont think Angella ever liked bow and glimmer's participation in the war. If their parents teamed up then-- lmao)
Of course, now that Angella's gone it's one of the things he regrets. He wishes they had a chance to have that family dinner, even just once. Even if it would be embarrassing for everyone involved
He doesnt miss out on that opportunity with micah.
He's just arranging family dinners the second micah says he's cool with it
And its just Dadpocalypse because god, the dad jokes
Bow is just groaning the entire time
Meanwhile glimmer, miss "i dont speak dads" is having a blast because she never grew up with dad jokes (also because her mom was always so SeriousTM) so she's just losing her shit everytime someone drops a joke.
(Bow is glad. Since angella's death and her stint on prime's ship, glimmer was never quite the same. If there is anything he could do for her and help her have a family again, he would do it without a second thought. He only regrets not doing it sooner.)
OK LMAO BECAUSE I CANT NOT INCLUDE SOME BRIGHT MOON ROYALS DRAMA
Castaspella is also invited to these dinners and thats when it gets dropped that casta straight up ditched glimmer with shadow weaver right after angella died
Its like the first fight they've had since micah returned so like... it gets super intense and everyone is just shocked how these weird happy-go-lucky ppl become like this
This was the scenario bow might have expected with Scary Queen Mom Angella, not Quirky and Fun Dad King Micah
The claws come out when the sibling fights begin RIP
Casta and micah: rly going at it because how could she leave behind glimmer, at such an important time, no less--
Meanwhile everyone else at the table:
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After the dinner bows dads are just pulling him aside like "ok i know that all families have their fights, god knows we do with all 13 of u kids, but are u SURE u want to marry into a family with so much drama--" "DAD OH MY GOD WE'VE BEEN DATING FOR 2 WEEKS"
(but also-- the real answer is that bow would support glimmer through any and all drama in her life. Its a promise.)
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homosvxual · 4 years
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hey everyone !! <3 i’m kahlo and this is the baby to end all babies... catra ! i’ll write da usual stuff under the cut including some bg info & whatever. spoilers for she-ra below,, if u ever need a non-spoilery breakdown just dm me and i’ll be happy to oblige !!
uploading data … ⟳ 𝙲𝙾𝙼𝙿𝙻𝙴𝚃𝙴 ! welcome , CATRA. a long way from SHE-RA AND THE PRINCESSES OF POWER , huh ? hm … a twenty year old waitress who looks like BRITTANY O’GRADY — could be worse. i heard you were at PIZZA PLANET when we un - glitched , & you (  gasped and whispered adora’s name ]. still the RESOURCEFUL & JEALOUS type , that’s why [ doc martens, ripped jeans, and snarky comments ]’s totally your vibe. the memory of DEFEATING HORDE PRIME is hazy , but maybe the ( mask and force captain badge ) waiting for you at the pawn shop’ll bring clarity. + catgirl , cisfemale [ she/her ] , lesbian.
ok so here she works at pizza planet as a waitress bc i think that’s funny as fuck and i love to put this bastard through misery. she hates the annoying ass kids running around w snot dripping out of their nose but she really doesn’t know what else to do. plus pizza planet....space... kinda reminds her of etheria in a fucked up way.
she has her long messy hair tho i’m sorry rip to the asking for the manager season 5 haircut 
but anyways..... yeah. she’s kinda aching for adora but really wants a new start and she’s like fuck it if working at a pizza planet is the way to go lets fucking do it baby ? 
i also feel like she thinks adora will see the word ‘planet’ and bring her big empty headed forehead over there,, so catra just stays put in case she ever comes (she is delusional jfkdlsfjkds)
catra just stares at the mask and force captain badge with disgust most of the time because she knows she was just.... so terrible back then. 
if u don’t watch she-ra, basically catra is like......a feral raging homosexual with mommy issues and has a bunch of repressed emotions. she’s a scorpio and evil -- jk, she was but then she got a kick ass redemption arc. she was literally in love w her best friend adora and took it out on the world like a freak ? always felt the need to prove herself but nowadays she’s mellowing out. she’s still a work in progress tho and can tend to be a snappy asshole. enjoys making fun of people and also starting fights. big teaser. needy. abandonment issues and has trauma from physical and emotional abuse from her supposed mother figure (miss shadow weaver smh)
but deep down she’s got a heart of gold and i think that is beautiful <3
she hates water. 
also physical touch. if u dont know her like that and try to hug her she will sue
likes cats :3 has a kitty named melog 
also i’m sorry that her name is catra what can u do with a cheesy 80′s reboot sjkfhdskjlffdjl u will look her in the eyes and call her a cat.
i dont think shes a catgirl in this virtual world but if u wanna picture brittany o’grady w ears and a tail i will not stop u
big lesbian
she has heterochromia so one eye is blue, the other is yellow !
i like to think she picked up skateboarding living on this world so fuck it. she skateboards to work 
will cause problems on purpose
she’s super smart tho and cunning and tactical <3 queen shit
if your character has any kind of morals she thinks they’re corny asf
ok some possible connections:
a FRIEND !! you might be thinking, well that’s lame and bland. but catra just does NOT make friends easily because she’s a dickhead. she pushes people away and keeps herself at a distance. especially after the whole ‘i had a friend once but then we fell in love after i tried to kill her multiple times’ thing! i’d like it if someone could redefine what it means to be friends for her :( that’d be nice. bc friendship leaves a bad taste in catra’s mouth.
PETTY ENEMIES !! catra is always sticking her tongue out at them, teasing them, giving them a hard time & ur muse is most likely returning the energy. what are they enemies about ? why can’t they get along? we can plot that out !! :3
her therapist. pfksdlfjsfls this one’s mostly a joke but fr maybe catra goes to ur muse for all her problems and she’s like “tell anyone i said that tho and i’ll kill u. ok see u same time tomorrow -_-” 
HOOK UPS! catra needs to get out her needy sexual frustrations because YOU try working at pizza planet all day, okay ? it’s disgusting. she’s lonely. but don’t touch her afterwards she’ll bully you.
A MOTHER FIGURE.. please oh my god ? catra has NEVER in her life had a positive motherly figure ?? give her advice. hand on the shoulder. scold her. offer words of encouragement fkjslfs
idk what else to put but yes thank u for reading i love you!!!!!! pls hmu to plot!!!!! or we can just wing it out ! i don’t mind either hehe :~)
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konapony · 5 years
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spop s3 thoughts
hordak is bastard man
catra is evil baby
entrapdak deserbes another shot
entrapta is baby
angella.............. :(
shadow weaver is a fucking piece of shit and her redemption arc wont changw anythhing
scorpia is pure and soft
huntara is ok
glimmer!! im sad bc we got 2 see so much of her personality in the first season but they toned it down a lot and honestly i feel like shes just a caricature of her s1 self :( i wish there was more glimadora moments bc as things are rn catradora is uh. very toxic im sorry
catradora? good for the first season. the next ones? chernobyl. as things are rn they both need to communicate or break apart completely. catra’s inferiority complex isn’t going to heal as soon as they have a nice talk, itll always be there and always make the relationship a little bit toxic unfortunately. i love the fanon catradora content but i just dont see it working out. (catch me looking like a clown tho when catra heals and their relationship starts being amazing and they start dating canonically)
and honestly? i dont even see scorptra working out at this point either. scorpia has held catra at this extremely high pedestal that catra couldnt possibly live up to forever. sure she pulled some badassery in the crimson wasteland but she was at her lowest point. she has weaknesses. scorpia idolizes catra too much, and catra tends to fall into the same pattern of manipulation that shadow weaver used. catra could possibly have a redemption arc after this season, though.
no seahawk this season? smh
i feel like bow and glimmer didnt rly do anything this season. they havent gotten as developed as catra, entrapta, adora, hordak, and scorpia, which makes me sad. hopefully we can see some character growth in this next season tho with uh... u know who being :(
thoughts on the season as a whole?
it made me go absolutely feral. 10/10
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haemosexuality · 4 years
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My reactions to s4 that I wrote while I watched it
Glimmer: do I look ok
Adora: like a queen
Ok gay
Casta is just white diamond
Whats a bouncer??
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKPERFUMA JUST WANTS TO FLOWER
Why isn't swift wing dead yet
WINGS!!!!!!!! SHE GOT WINGS
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Oh, pertara?
HUNTARA AND ADORA HORDE BONDING
Oh my god stop licking sand
Barbed lady. Big boobs? (that nicky minaj video)
Fucking cacti
Immediately love double trouble
Holy fuck perfuma
"Ive got something more important to do. It was fun distracting you tho" WHAT A CALLBACK I MADE VERBAL NOISE
O H P E R T A R A?
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CATRA IN PAJAMAS shes so hot fuckkk
ALSO SHE HAS LITTLE HAIR TUFS IN HER FACE LOVE IT
WHY DONT THEY HAVE NOSES
Holy shit Catra's nightmare???
WAS ADORA EYING THIS LADY'S BOOBS AND MUSCLES???? SAME
yeah fluttering is double trouble and theyre aNNOYING
M E CAKE! THERESAMECAKE
ADORA STOP YOU SHOW OFF
they TOOK BOW????
A bow without a bow
"I got the idea from Shadow Weaver" oh. Oh no. Oh no oh no
Dude catra is EXTRA EVIL holy f
Toldya ab flutterina
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KSKSKSKKSKSK spinerella and netossa fighting in a married way love it. I love netossa so much. "I destroyed more bots then u" love them
Theyre a theather kid
ANGRY SPARKLE GROWL
Shadow weaver die challenge
BOW??????
oh right shera can heal
IT HIT ME IN THE ABS WHICH IS THE MOST VULNERABLE PART OF THE BODY BUT I DON'T COVER IT BC I DONT HAVE SHIRTS. I WASNT THERE TO SPARKLE. SHE RA RASPBERRY
give us a minute. Thats an order
AND DARK GLIMMER BEGINS
Oh sw is making that thing were one person suggests something and than makes it look like it was the other persons idea/choice with glimmer
ARE YOU TELLING ME DARK GLIMMER WILL BE DOUBLE TROUBLES FAULT
who names their kid double trouble tho like.
Parents: h yes this is my kid I think I'll name them *name*
Parents after finding out their kid is a little shit:actually changed my mind
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YO AKSJAKDJKSKKSKSKSKSKSK LIGHT HOPE
i LOVE everything ab the horde squad parts,,, their games their fights how they feel EVERYTHING
M A R A????
oh, mara hope??? Light mara???? I SHIP IT
I AM CATCHING FEELING FOR THE HOLOGRAM :((((((( LIGHT HOPE IM SO SORRY I EVER DOUBTED YOU I LOVE YOU
KYLE YOU ARE NOT BARBEQUE GET OUT OF THERE RIGHT NOW THEY LOVE YOU PLEASE YALL LOVE EACH OTHER :(((((((((
Rogelio. I love him
I TAKE IT ALL BACK WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MEAN??? LIGHT HOPE??? THE HEART OF-- *HOLY FUCK THE HEART EPISODEBOH MY GOD*
THEY DID IT THEY SAID DARK MAGIC
god adora is feeling so bad ab sw
Ooo spells
DOUBLE TROUBLE STFU
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its ep6 and no sing of entrapta :(
CATRA STOP HURTING SCORPIA
As someone that stayed awake until 5am to watch shera, same catra, same
"If I can finish this off, everything, everything will have been worth it" 💔
Scorpia's on that delicious denial
The super pal trio pic,,, 💔 also catra sits like a lesbian
Think like entrapta. Hordak. Tiny food. First ones tech. Runestones
OMG IS SCORPIA GONNA CONNECT HERSELF TO THE BLACK GARNET?? YES
NO CMON SCORPIA
THE SUPER PAL TRIO VIDEO OMG 💔💔💔💔im gonna cry
YES QUESTION YOUR LOYALTY LEAVE THE ABUSIVE FRIENDHSOP
"I know a great place to hide" pls scorpia leave catra💔
DARK GLIMMER
adoras mad af lmao
SCORPION PEOPLE AND SCORPION KINGDOM LORE
shes deep into horde propaganda huh
GO SCORPIA GET OUT OF THIS ABUSIVE FRIENDSHIP
NO SCORPIA
holy shit catra. Wow. Wow I- dude that was. Dude. Yikes
"You're a bad friend" GO SCORPIA
Ugh "i hate catra shes irremeamable and toxic" discourse is gonna come up again isnt it.
"we dont need anyone. Forget them all. No one matters. Nothing matters but this mission" catra nooo💔💔💔💔💔
BEAST ISLAND
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"THERES A HORDE SPY"
Im perfuma yelling SPOILERS
Oh my god. Are things really grey right now this is serious. This is real KDKKAJDKAJDK
"But then my vision glitched.. I started to see double": )
"What has she done other than help us" GLIMMER???? ABUSE ADORA, YOUR BEST FRIEND, HER ENTIRE LIFE JUST TO START
Sea hawk PLEASE
Ye that perfuma that released sea hawk was double trouble
I CALLED IT
adora WHAT. "HOH, HOH, HOH, HOH, HOH *panting*"
WERE SPINERELLA AND NETOSSA GETTING MARRIED????
“We need you here. I need you here.”
"Are you jealous cause you arent shadow weavers favorite anymore?" GLIMMER SHADOW WEAVER ABUSED ADORA GROWING UP!!!!! GLIMMER!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK
oh CMON I WANTED DARK GLIMMER I WANTED THAT FIGHT TO BE REAL :((
well SHIT, SALINEAS GONE. mermista :(
Wait isnt she fucked tho?? Like bc of the runestone
Horde prime has dreads????? KSKSKSKS
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Cant believe the horde attacked squiward's people :/
Mermaid mermista with her hair down 👀💗
1-sea hawk i love u and ur plan
2-oh well theyre kidnapped
Sea hawk b like what does the fox say
THEY WERE KIDNAPPED BC SEA HAWK SET STUFF ON FIRE
wait NOELLE SAID WED MEET SEA HAWK EX????? JAJSJSJSJSJDJ CONFIRMED BI ICON
"Scorpia, ill kill you if you ever tell anyone this, but… i thought winning would be different" :(
Oh theyre with the horde now. Guess they'll die
"She-ra was supposed to save us. But the rebbelion has been in a worse place than ever since you showed up."
"Im trying my best. Why cant you see that?"
"Maybe your best isnt good enought! If it was, my mother would still be here" GLIMMER I FUCKIFN HATE YOU RIGHT NOW OH MY GOD.
Ooh, so they were 6 in the dumb face flashback
BOWWWWW 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
Mermistas like rock. Shes emo
CATRA FOUND OUT ABOUT SCORPIA
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MADAME RAZZ I REPEAT MADAME RAZZ
MARA???????
WHAT THE FUCK!!!!! IS UP!!!!! WITH MADAME DAZZ
ok that ship+gigantic statue background is beautiful
madam razz is magic and tbh we been knew but yoo
also MARA MARA MARA AAAA
"The ghost is mean"USJSUSUSUSHSUSHUSJSUSHS
MARA CALLED LH "HOPE" I SHIP IT SO MUCH
SHE-RA!!!!!!!! MARA!!!!!!!!!!!!
mara as shera is so beautiful mara is so beautifil
holy shit wtf too much shera and first ones lore
I dont even know what to say about Hero
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Ep 10 and no sing of entrapta
OH MY GOD DT'S ADORA HAIRPUFF
wHERE did scorpia come from
Oh well. Catra's gone crazy
SCORPIA EATS A SALAD
SHE WAS TOLD SHE WOULDNT BELONG BUT SHE DOES AND NOW SHES CRYING IM😭😭❤
god catra looks so. tired. Someone help her
SHES WITHOUT HER MASK I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL SHES MASKLESS
dude shes just. Shes. CATRA BABY PLEASE GET A THERAPIST
i love how they dont treat frosta like a stupid ass baby bc of her age but also make her behave like a 12yro. I love it ❤
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Glimmer you are going to Fuck Up
MICAH ITS MICAH ITSSSS MICAHHHHH
ENTRAPTA
glimmer YOU ARE GOING TO FUCK UP
actually nevermind scorpia pls dont connect w ur runestone
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ooooo entrapta got her overalls up
Can i say it im obligated to say it. Shes hot
I KNEW entralta would love the island KKSKSKSK
SHE. SHE FUCKIN. SHE FUCKIN KNOWS AB THE HEART OF ETHERIA
CATRA MISSES HER OLD HORDE SQUAD💔💔💔💔
Holy shit catras just. Shes just broken. Shes just,,, catra pls in beggin u its gonna b ok bb
She's a mess.
double trouble dont touch catras face like that shes a lesbian
YES GLIMMER still mad at you but TELL SHADOW WEAVED OFF
"My friends left me" GEEZ GLIMMER I FUCKING WONDER WHY
If anyone ships bowxentrapta imma throw hands shes 30 hes 18
"Oh definitely the ship"
THANK YOU DOUBLE TROBLE NOW HORDAKS GONNA GO FERAL AND KILL CATRA
Why hordak got boobs
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OH SHIT SW AND MICAH SHITSHIT
Glimmax pinkhairton
THE HORDE SQUAD DEFECTED nice
Hordaks like * destroyes the entire fright zone cause someone lied ab his gf cheatin on him *
Holy shit you GO CATRA
I WANNA SEE PRINCESS SCORPIA SO MUCH HOLY FUCK
SHIT WE'RE FUCKED
DUDE THEY LOOK SO COOL WHEN THEYRE LIKED POSSESSED
YO sea hawk had heart eyes for mesmista when she got super powerJshlandjejd
Oh my god. Double trouble. Stop it. Stop torturing catra like this. Oh my god her voice, shes so hurt, i wanna hug her
Her face. Her body language. Her voice. Shes hurting so much. Please. Pl-HOLY SHIT PRINCESS SCORPIA HERE WE GOO
SCORPIA IS SO FUCKING BADASS I LOVE HER SO MUCH
TERRYFUNFYING
SHE RA IS SO FUCKING BADASS
Oh yeah this is rock bottom. She (finally) went from extremely feral and needing revenge and anger issues to just, depressed.
HOLY SHIT THE MOONSTONE
HOLY SHIT ITS ALL THE RUNESTONES
AAAAA ALL THE PRINCESSES
OUT OF DESPANDOS?????????KSNSKAJDJJSHDJSHDJWUFB HPJYSHUTJHKLSYSHITLHOKYSHIHOLYSHITHOJSYSHSHSHDUHEHSHWAAAAAA FUCKFUCKFUKCUFKCUFJCUJFVU
ITSGONETHESWORDBROKETSHSHJSHSBDHAHDPUTAQUEOAHSIWBDIWHIEHWUEWHHWHAAAFAYSDHSHDHUDHUDUSHFHSUEEJUDEUZUEHWYDGEYDHDHSHAJAAHWTATHECUCKXJCKKCKCKCKVKVKVKVKV
ADORA IS WITH HER HAIR DOWN I REPEAT
Well hordaks dead
oh well
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patheticfrogarchive · 5 years
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y’ever think abt how catra must have so much trauma or wahtever around the concept of promises from other ppl. bc adora, the one person catra trusted w her entire being and loved (still loves on some level) with her entire being, went and broke the ONE PROMISE catra needed her to never break. “dont leave me. as long ase we’re together it’ll be ok. i promise” and then adora LEFT HER. like imagine the fucking hole catra feels in her heart. no wonder shes so self-destructive and chaotic in every sense of the word. the one person she thought she could trust with anything, with everything, went and left her and ever since adora left her she tried so hard to fill that hole, with scorpia, with entrapta, with the feeling of being better than shadow weaver, with hordaks approval, but nothing can patch that wound and i just
im emo basically
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