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mahalshairyballs · 2 years

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I've been thinking again about 616!Marc and MCU!Marc and about trash baby Matty and...

Who is really the most violent of the two, Jake or Marc ?

(Plot-twist it's Steven lmao/jk)

How do we define what's 'most violent' ?

We've never actually seen Marc punish someone in the show for Khonshu.

He's been working for Khonshu, he's killed in self-defense but we haven't seen him "protect the travelers of the night' like he usually did. What does it look like? How does he do it ?

It reminds me of what Oscar said about Khonshu who could be seen as a metaphor...

I think the one who can go into unbridled rage is Marc, not Jake (well Jake can too but only in very specific situations and they haven't happened yet).

Khonshu was right, Marc enjoys punishing people. It's after the fact that he regrets it. That he feels horrible about having enjoyed it. That he thinks his mom was right about him...

Which is very similar to at least season 1 Matt Murdock : he does enjoy hurting the bad guys. That darkness inside him, that 'devil' he lets out, he tries to harness it for good, but himself and people he loves worry it'll push him to become the very thing he hates.

Marc is the same. If he saw an abuser, any sort of abuser, and Khonshu told him to go make that abuser pay ? He did it, with all the fury of a vengeful spirit. Once it was done however, that person's death just added to his already tremendous guilt. Marc didn't really thought rationally about what he did, he just had this thirst for vengeance that Khonshu took advantage of.

Remember that flashback when he first met Khonshu ? Marc wasn't going to accept Khonshu's proposal at first. Partly because he thought he was hallucinating, partly because he just wanted to end it. When Khonshu first said 'I'm in search of a warrior' Marc replied 'good luck with that',

then Khonshu talked about vengeance and punishing abusers. Then Marc listened...and let Khonshu into his heart, that's why Khonshu started to appear physically to him then.

In some comics storyline Marc is the most violent one. He needs Jake and Steven to rein him in. So I did like I did with Jake and blended all versions of Marc into one. So I think this element is still partially true for MCU!Marc. Contrary to what Marc thinks of himself though, he's not always violent or inherently so (none of them are) but he has those moments of blind rage when he sees people being abused.

Khonshu only took advantage and profited from that. It was already there within Marc.

And if he's not stopped, sometimes even Jake could say 'wow that was intense Marc'.

So then we can ask, why was Marc so alarmed when he came back from his blackouts where Jake replaced him?

A few things. One, who wouldn't? It's not because he's used to killing bad guys that he wouldn't be shocked to awaken in front of freshly dead bodies he doesn't remember killing. It takes the top position within the fear of losing control of yourself : waking up having killed people you didn't remember killing and you didn't want to kill. Marc didn't even know if these guys 'deserved' to die. Not everyone deserves to die in Marc's mind, and he already feels bad enough after killing the ones who do 'deserve to die' in his mind.

And two, yeah Marc only wants to kill abusers, he doesn't want to kill innocent people, or even people who aren't horrible. How does he know who Jake is killing? How can he control who Jake can kill ?

So what about Jake ?

Well, it's very hard to say whether Jake is more violent, brutal or if he kills more than Marc does. And I don't think I'll ever say it's one more than the other, that's not very relevant to me. What we do know, is that Jake is more efficient. He has a particular set of skills. Which tells me that Jake is less sloppy, less full of rage when he kills ?

Jake is definitely not emotionless when he kills/hurts people (psychopath stereotype shoooo, go away *wave hands*), but he doesn't feel an all incompassing emotion that skew his judgment either. Actually, he might feel at least satisfied of what he's doing. He takes his role, his job, his duty, seriously. And being Moon Knight is just an extension of what he was already doing for the system. Protecting the vulnerable, making the bad guys pay. He could even be proud of it, proud of how he does it too. You gotta take pride in what you can right? He has a few talents, and that's one of them. I truly think Jake thinks he's doing the right thing, he truly believes in Khonshu's crusade.

Jake is a professional. And he won't leave any loose ends. He'll always win.

We didn't get much from Jake in season 1, but from the one line we got from him in the aftercredit, that's what I could read out of it.

Remember when I said Jake is very emotional on the inside? That still applies there...kinda. He does feel all those things when he does 'his duty', but being the weird dude with weird priorities he is, he gets way more emotional in other situations. This all goes down again to : what he's used to deal with and what's new to him. He gets way more emotional for the latter.

So now, back to Marc (and Steven) and a bit on where they would be after season 1.

I liked the closing line that Steven said 'we'd rather go save the world'. It can mean a few different things. One of them is part of Steven's story-arc. Steven has learned to enjoy adventures and being a hero. And with Marc's help and his newfound confidence, Steven can handle himself in heroing situations.

So post-season 1 Steven might want to keep being a hero in some ways. A more 'normal' one with no powers, and not killing anyone, but still fighting for people who need help. He'll be enthusiastic about finding ways to do that, and would want Marc to join him in this endeavor.

Marc's like for his depression hatred towards abusers and violent tendencies aren't gone because Khonshu is (seemingly) gone. I'd see them stumble across a crime scene that's about to happen/in-action and Marc just losing it.

Steven waking up somewhere later, clothes covered in blood.

Steven 'What happened!?!' What did Jake do !?!

Marc 'I'm really sorry Steven, I...I saw [guy abusing someone] and couldn't stop'

Steven 'you did this !?! Marc ! We...we're covered in blood!'

Marc 'I'm sorry'

Steven 'we don't have the suit anymore, it won't just disappear! We...we could be arrested!'

Or even, this could be how Marc finds out they're still Moon Knight.

He's facing an abuser, he's full of hate and rage and wishes he had something to kill that piece of shit right on the spot. But he doesn't have a gun, not even a knife with him, nothing. Only his bare hands. If only he could summon his moonarangs again, it would be quick.

And then he feels his fist closing around something. He looks down. It's his moonarang. What. His fist is wearing a white glove too...the Moon Knight suit is on him....what.the.fuck.

Jake will have some explaining to do.

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loki-hargreeves · 2 years

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Khonshu's lines remind me so much of Mother Gothel's lines (the way she speaks to Rapunzel etc). They're not too similar as characters but they do share a lot of the same characteristics and they're both master manipulators.

These lines have the same energy to them. You notice it even better when you're watching the scenes. They just feel the same to me.

In a way, I feel like Rapunzel's tower represents how Marc feels as Moon Knight. He feels like he owes Khonshu his servitude but he's also trapped, unable to live his life (for example he can't be with Layla, he needs to protect her from Khonshu).

So in a sense, Khonshu has isolated Marc from his loved ones the same way mother Gothel has isolated Rapunzel from the outside world.

Here we have both of them belittling Marc and Rapunzel, making them feel dependant on them or just grateful for whatever it is they're offering them.

Right after they belittle them/make them feel inferior to them, they make up for it by saying nice things.

They both present themselves are their protectors although they don't need protecting (the only reason they might need it is because of them)

Mother Gothel and Khonshu don't respect their boundaries in the slightest. They refuse to let them go and use very questionable ways to keep them.

Marc and Steven asked to be freed but they really weren't. In Tangled, Mother Gothel let Rapunzel think she was free only to destroy her idea of the world so she would return to the tower in the end anyway.

On that note, Rapunzel and Marc are both willing to stay as long as their loved ones are safe.

Mother Gothel and Khonshu both make it seem like they are the only ones who understand them and know what they're feeling, what they need etc. They know what's best.

Anyway, I don't think Khonshu is as bad as Mother Gothel and their similarities are mostly just their manipulation tactics. It's still kind of interesting to compare these characters though (at least I find it interesting)

There's more but I feel like this post is already too long.

#idk why I made this post #just had to #it serves no purpose #moon knight #rapunzel #tangled #khonshu #mother gothel #marc spector #jake lockley #steven grant #how do I tag this?#ramblings #in this essay I will #tw manipulation

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thefallenangelsgang · 5 months

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The Avantris Fam Discord got this a few days early, but, in a burst of academic energy I haven't felt in weeks, I wrote a 2k word Literary Analysis on Marius from Edge of Midnight in 4 hours (complete with citations and sources)

What you are about to read is the culmination of an 18 day hyper fixation (I averaged more than a session* a day) (*each session being about 3 hours in length). It has only been slightly edited for better Tumblr consumption. It is legitimately almost 2k words. It starts VERY academic (as I get to flex my knowledge on an obscure Arthurian legend I love) and then immediately drops off in quality as I traverse some "dubious psycho-analysis" (my own words) and try to wrap up a half finished thoughts that should be thousands of words longer.

If you want to see my active descent into madness or the original google doc this was written in, join the discord (linked above!). I've got massive Legends of Avantris Brain Rot and will for a very long time I fear.

TW for Sexual Assault Themes (please tell me if my tw tags are not extensive enough)

CW for my insufferable academic attitude, literary analysis where no one wanted it, "dubious psycho-analysis", half finished thoughts, DnD, vampires, and my sailors mouth

Marius: An Analysis on Chivalry and Chastity

Break to save your dash

To get the literary shit out of the way, Marius’s seduction is a parallel of the Arthurian Legend “Sir Gawain and the Green Knight” intentionally or not. I have a sneaking suspicion perhaps The Duchess scene is also based on the “Tale of Sir Galahad” bit in Monty Python and the Holy Grail BUT that bit draws inspiration from Gawain’s story. So no matter which way you cut it, Marius is connected to Gawain to SOME degree.

Attempting to be brief, I’ll sum up Gawain as briefly as I, someone who loves this tale a ridiculous amount, can.

Gawain is King Arthur’s nephew, a knight of the round table, young, chivalrous, pious, but itching to prove himself. He loves the aging Arthur and Arthur loves him like a son but he feels restless in his station because he has not gone on a great quest like many of the other knights.

Serendipitously, during the New Years celebrations a strange man enters Arthur’s great hall. He is green and carries a great axe in one hand and a bough of holly in his other. He challenges anyone in the room to hit him with the axe and he will return the blow in a year and a day. No one takes the man up on the challenge. Arthur is about to do it when Gawain takes his chance to prove himself. Thinking he can outsmart the Green Knight, Gawain cleaves the man’s head from his shoulders. Unexpectedly the Green Knight picks up his detached head, leaves the axe for Gawain as a trophy, and strides out of there with the reminder that he will return the blow in a year and a day. Gawain has effectively doomed himself.

Attempting to put off his fate, Gawain waits to seek the Green Knight until All Saints Day (November 1st). He is sent forth with all of the pomp and circumstance a Knight of the Round Table and favorite of King Arthur can get. He spends nearly two months seeking someone who knows of the Green Chapel where the Green Knight resides and is fruitless. Winter sets in and he begins to suffer exposure when he is greeted by a beautiful castle that seemingly appears out of nowhere. He meets the Lord of the Castle and the Lord's beautiful wife. In the spirit of Christmas the Lord challenges Gawain to a game. The Lord will be hunting the next three days, anything he catches is to be Gawain’s. In return Gawain is to give the Lord anything he receives during his stay.

Well what Gawain receives is a lot of unwanted attention from the Lord’s wife. She attempts to seduce the ever pious Knight. Gawain, minding his promise and his tenets, only allows her six kisses over the course of the three days. All of which he returns to the Lord. But seeing as she can’t sway him with the sins of the flesh, she tempts Gawain with magic. The same day she convinces Gawain to receive three kisses she offers him an enchanted sash that will keep him from harm. Gawain accepts this knowing it will save his life in the coming days. He breaks his promise to the Lord and does not divulge this gift.

Gawain keeps his appointment with the Green Knight who admonishes Gawain when he flinches at the first swing, holds back on his second, and finally drives home the third, only wounding Gawain slightly. Gawain now must confess his temptation to the Green Knight who tells him that it is not Gawain’s fault. This has all been a plan by Morgan le Fay to attempt to ruin Arthur. Gawain only fell to part of her plan and so it has been thwarted. He should learn from this stumble on his path. And learn he does.

Monty Python takes this tale and guts it for “the Tale of Sir Galahad” segment. Galahad is instead searching for the Grail when he stumbles upon a mystical castle with a grail shaped beacon. His temptress(es) are the “8 scores” of young women of Castle Anthrax. He too enters the castle sick from exposure and wounded and thwarts unwanted advances until he learns that the grail is not there. Before he can fall to his temptation Lancelot, Ector, and ironically Gawain rescue him from his “peril” judging it to be “too perilous” for him to face. (It is really important to note that the actual Sir Galahad in Arthurian Legend doesn’t have a story that even resembles this one. Galahad is supposed to be an emulation of good ol’ Jesus Christ and the perfect chivalric Knight. He literally ascends to heaven in his tale. The only reason Gawain’s Tale is used is because it is the perfect setting to test “Sir Galahad the Pure” as long as you fudge a few details.)

These are both humorous stories with happy endings. It is important that Marius’s story is not.

Marius is searching for the Grail much like Sir Galahad in Monty Python and the Holy Grail (a parallel Mikey brings up often by singing “Brave, Brave, Brave, Brave Sir Robin Marius”).

Like both Gawain and Galahad his quest leads him on a lengthy adventure that causes him to suffer from exposure to the elements. A fate he is saved from by a mystical castle that appears out of nowhere.

Much like Gawain and Galahad, this Castle is the home of a seductress.

And all too much like Sir Gawain, the Lord of this Castle is away on a hunting expedition.

But here is where Sir Gawain, Sir Galahad, and Sir Marius’s stories diverge. Because Marius’s story partially is a story of sexual assault.

We see in the ritual that Marius’s “head is filled with exhaustion, wine, and a strange perfume that feels almost magical in its enchantment” (Nikkie’s narration, 2:32:00, Chapter 17). There’s literally no other way to say this, Marius cannot consent to the acts about to take place in The Red Duchess’s bedchamber. He is too sick, too drunk, and, on top of it, literally charmed.

His affliction is also another facet of this assault. While his transformation is not a direct result or part of the sex act, it follows quickly on the heels of it. Nikkie even notes Marius is still naked and that the shame of what has just happened is beginning to bubble up.

(Now this is where I get into the dubious psycho-analysis)

Perhaps attempting to swallow that shame, he accepts the Faux Grail and drinks from it, not questioning the appearance of the so-called Grail of Dawn. If he can just get through this night he can bring it back to Victor and all will be righted. He can live with the shame if it saves his kingdom.

But that isn’t the Grail of Dawn he is drinking from and the woman who has just taken something irreplaceable from him is not just a beautiful woman looking for the comforts of the flesh on a cold, lonely winter’s night. And he is going through something so much more horrible than being assaulted like he has been.

And so he ends up back in the cold, irrevocably changed through no fault of his own, and he hates himself for it.

It’s heartbreakingly common that Sexual Assault survivors blame themselves for being assaulted. Marius’s conviction that he was at fault, that if only he was stronger, smarter, less feeble, he could have found a way to say no. He could have escaped her clutches. He wouldn’t be a Dhampir. He wouldn’t be haunted by her noxious perfume. He would still have his clear connection to Lathander.

None of it is really his fault. The Duchess took advantage of him. There was truly nothing he could have done to change his fate that night.

At this point I am trying to articulate some of the things @middycat_ @zer09851 and @purpledinosaurdnd were talking about here https://discord.com/channels/223485292449890305/892828741900849182/1182483200505815153

I think I want to jump into my High Inquisitor thoughts because they tie so closely with the novel I wrote above. This section is admittedly a little more scatterbrained.

The High Inquisitor is a perfect example of both Marius’s self loathing and the way abusers seemingly can sniff out who has been abused before. From the second we meet her she singles Marius out. While yes, Marius is the most “normal” out of the EoM cast, Jericho is a MUCH easier target. He is touch starved and his sin is literally Envy. Jericho would have bent immediately at the first hints of affection and then she has an actual demon under her control. But Marius, though a tougher catch, is a much tastier meal so to say. (Not in that way you freaks /j)

By answering to the High Inquisitor’s beckoning is how we end up with Marius as the Crimson Abbot. His self hatred would make him spiral and he’d turn to his Wrath to compensate. We’ve seen it before, especially recently when he thinks Lathander has abandoned him. He gives in because it's so much easier. She wants me? Fine. Let her have me in all of my broken glory. I’m too wrong to serve Lathander. Etc etc.

Man, I wish I could string these thoughts together better.

AHA! This was the thought I had that I felt needed more context!

@middycat_ brought up “hoping beyond hope that it’s not lathander’s choice to leave him”

I think the severed connection between him and Lathander is both a subconscious self-sabotage and a direct result of the ritual binding him to The Red Duchess.

Most of the binding rituals I was pretty comfortable with. Lethica, Briggsy, Farryn, and somewhat Yorgrim were simply binding themselves to their gods/patrons. (I’m still not entirely sure what the Maiden of the Mists' whole deal is about but she seems mostly benevolent for now. Mr Crossroads didn’t really make Briggsy that way, he kinda was a bastard from the start. The zombification was a result of “fuck around and find out”). The ones I felt least comfortable with and that are reaping the most consequences are Jericho and Marius. Jericho’s character analysis is another similarly sized tome that will have to wait but he is having a harder and harder time keeping Virgil in check. Marius has bound himself to the woman that literally raped him.

No wonder Lathander has found it hard to commune with him, The Duchess is practically breathing down his neck, whispering in his ear that he is not worthy of Lathander. He has been debased, ruined, made unloveable in the eyes of that god. And at least up until Chapter 22 he has been pushing back against that. Not any longer. He’s given in. As @middycat_ said “he’s a tired old man, a jaded old soldier who should have long since given up this fight to someone else.”

I am afraid we are about to see the beginnings of the Crimson Abbot

And the only thing that can save Marius are his friends.

But I am also afraid they may not learn their lessons in time. Many of them tried to encourage him to fuck or made fun of him for not fucking the High Inquisitor when he was clearly triggered by something.

Jericho will have to quash his envy.

Briggsy and Farryn will have to admit they were wrong.

Lethica and Yorgrim will have to speak up.

Inaction hurts as much as action

And Marius needs all the help he can get.

[If you stuck this out A) you deserve awards and B) check out my other 2k word research essay on a niche topic: Why Ghouls Look Different Across the Fallout Games (Not because of Stylistic Differences) ]

This is fucking insane but here are the sources i used

Sir Gawain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Gawain_and_the_Green_Knight https://www.yorku.ca/inpar/sggk_neilson.pdf (Translation PDF if you want to read the tale)

Sir Galahad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galahad (for the one time i reference his actual arthurian legend)

Monty Python (I really can’t believe I cited this)

https://montycasinos.com/montypython/grailmm2.php.html (This is a script I was quoting from) https://montypython.fandom.com/wiki/Sir_Galahad (I was looking for other info on him in the movie but ended pulling the list of knights from this)

Pretty basic article on why victims blame themselves

https://www.throughthewoodstherapy.com/sexual-assault-survivors-blame/ (In case you want to do some light reading)

EoM Episodes

17 + 22 Definitely Anytime the High Inquisitor shows up

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mundivagantsoul · 6 months

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Thought that watching our flag means death would cure my good omens blues

It did not

Off to rewatch moon knight for comfort now

#feel like the emotional turmoil I’m going through rn #should be a valid reason to not do my psychology essay #good omens #our flag means death #ofmd #moon knight #thoughts

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themf-scholar · 2 months

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Shoutout to these weird little drawings I did in school when moon knight came out-

Spoiler alert: I can’t draw

#I think they’re funny tho #moon knight #konshu #marc spector #steven grant #jake lockley #layla el faouly #silly doodles #I was supposed to be writing an essay

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gerrysherry · 3 months

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Moon Knight Comics and Orientalism

Thesis: the early moon knight comics were happier using the various cultures featured there as sets and props for Marc Spector's troubled past as globe trotting mercenary than to actually explore those cultures

This deals mostly with Volume One as I try to ignore everything else besides McKay and Lemire but I do mention Marc Spector: Moon Knight and Max Bemis

Example 1: Raul Bushman

First of all, his name is a literal slur, it's implied it's a nickname by moench and Lemire. But the handbook says that's his surname. ugh

also like I wish comics fleshed out Bushman besides "oh he's evil african warlord and drug dealer who is misogynistic as hell". And like his origin has him like to watch women dance whether it's the widows of the men he's killed or strippers in grimier part of New York (implicitly tying the two in what's both kinda a hot take and also kinda off the mark at once - yeah maybe don't call out misogynists by comparing them to animalistic brown men).

He's apparently from the fictional Domi tribe a fictional country of burunda displaced from indigenous land by Portuguese colonialism and then burunda was overrun by gangs and mercenaries and young Raul decided to join those he couldn't beat.

BUT that's only there in Marvel Handbook.

Like? that would actually make him a foil to Marc on another level. We see Marc's backstory in volume 1 issues 37 and 38 where he sees his family as weak and choosing violence as well. but no Raul's so evil we can't make him sympathetic or even give him an actual real skintone. Gena is in the same comic and looks like an African-American woman with brown skin but he's fucking GREY?!

And then Bemis gave him an eating disorder and was fatphobic about it. Like let him die already and god please give him a backstory backup story. Just for the love of whatever deity you pray to actually research this shit.

Example 2: Yussaf

Yussaf is a guy who pretends to be tour guide so he can kidnap Marlene (Steven's girlfriend) and break into the tomb where Marc died/had a near-death experience.

He's actually with some sort of fringe terrorist group and Marlene dead ass couldn't tell the difference. Marlene is supposed to be an archeologist. It really reeks of "of course he's evil he dresses traditionally arab and has crooked teeth". He also dies from a fall due to his own greed

But I love this issue acknowledges the dance of flowers and why someone named Spector might be unwelcome in this part of Egypt in the late 1980s.

Example 3: Nimrod Strange

Unlike Bushman, Nimrod's blackness is just an aspect of his character but his slayers elite (who are all cultural stereotypes) and his bodyguards who are always skinny girls in bikinis and always in a ratio of one black, one white and one asian woman is..... I get it's supposed to be THIS man's fetish but...like hmmm.

Like there was another comic where white businessmen hired a group of five assassins to kill Moon Knight and one was black and one was asian and it didn't feel too racist (to me at least) but this black guy hires these three guys and they're all brown (one's a caricature of an asian man in a triangular hat another is a caricature of a middle eastern man and the third is a black guy in like a bandana and an earing). Like hmm.

I do like the arc where Marc goes back to Jerusalem and is mourning his friend who is a mossad spy and it's implied so was Marc and by how vehemently he dislikes his friend's handler that did not end well.

Conclusion

As you can see the writers clearly wanted to comment on race and disenfranchisement but often the critiques felt oblique or couched in stereotypes which was most 80s Marvel comics

The show, much as I have my issues with it, is a breath of fresh because it centers around a Latino Jew and his Egyptian almost ex-wife fighting a guy who is the embodiment of color blind cultism and tokenism. Once Steven isn't useful to Harrow anymore and actively threatens his power, Harrow just kills him. Then of course Jake repays him in kind and says the pre-mortem one liner in Spanish as a extra fuck you to Harrow claiming to be multilingual and multicultural

#essay #my writing #moon knight #moon knight comics #moon knight 2022 #orientalism #racism #my essays

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goldfish-gay · 2 years

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There is a difference between layla and marc, and layla and steven, like they are wonderful as a whole but there is something so specifically different between the pairs that makes the dynamic even more fun.

Layla and marc have a very complicated relationship, they spend a lot of the show at each other’s throats. But there is such an obvious love and devotion between them. You figure out quickly that marc left to protect her and while he’s motives and reactions are questionable it’s obvious it’s because he loves her. Then you have layla who says a few times she’s done with him, who walks in with the divorce papers ready to get it over with despite how much she doesn’t want to. Even with the new knowledge that he is in some way responsible for her fathers death and kept that from her, this moment where her entire world has just shattered, the moments following show she could never hate him. No matter the situation they are a team and they work well together. Same with how touchy they are, it was one of the first things I noticed about them. It’s something so small and casual but genuinely holds so much meaning (I do have my own headcanons as to why but that’s not apart of this conversation) everyone points to the boat scene as a important moment in understanding their relationship and while it is, the tomb stands out to me the most. Despite being extremely closed off you can read Marc’s face like it’s an open book the entire time, when she asks how her father died he looks as if he’s going to tell her “no” not out of self preservation but because he doesn’t want her to possibly go down that spiral, when she turns her back to him you can see how badly he wants to comfort her in that moment, the desperation in his voice the hope that she understands because he doesn’t want to lose her and this is a moment where he could lose everything with her. And layla who despite the previous argument and her final parting words who has now watched her entire world fall apart twice. They are complicated people and it’s a very complicated relationship, but that’s what makes it important.

On the other hand with layla and steven their relationship is lighter, it’s more uncertain, and almost like they are teenagers falling in love. There is a Sense of wonder between them. The way that steven looks at her like she is the stars, the absolute admiration in Laylas eyes when she looks at him. They get along due to shared interests, because she finds in steven what she wishes she got from marc. It’s almost simpler.

I very obviously had more thoughts about steven and layla but I think my brain just walked away, so I’ll add them if it comes back, but in all they are very different and that’s what gives their relationships so much importance in the show.

#marvel #mcu #moon knight #layla el faouly #marc spector #steven grant #layla x steven #layla x marc #no I did not come up with this while reading fanfic #and also did my AP lang exam today so I’m still stuck in essay brain mode

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catspewer · 1 year

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Got an essay in the making for Moon Knight and DID. It's got analysis a plenty, and I'm having so much fun with it (yay hyperfixations!). It originally is for a final paper for one of my classes, but I also plan to put it up on ao3 too (edited of course, don't want to dox myself). Thought people would appreciate it.

#moon knight #dissociative identity disorder #did osdd #ao3 writer #ao3 #college essay #writing #original work #essay

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juhbebbie · 2 years

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Marc spector 🤝 Matt murdock

Boxers who are also masked vigilantes with heavy religious imagery and messed up childhoods

#yeah i know matt isnt TECHNICALLY. a boxer but shut up :)#im a huge athiest but i think that the way these guys confront religion and the good and bad parts of it is super fuckin cool #i could write an essay #moon knight #moon knight comics #marvel #marvel comics #daredevil #daredevil comics

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age-of-moonknight · 7 months

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Can I just say youre my favorite account on this app.

I really like your commentary on the tags, man <3

Shoot, favorite account on the whole of tumblr.com??? !!!! Thank you so much, anon, for saying that because I'm going to treasure this message 'till the end of time and you genuinely straight up made my week. 🤍🖤 Please excuse what may be repetition of a sentiment I have expressed here before, but I still can't get over how you (and the other individuals who have said as much and who I equally appreciate almost beyond words) also derive something from what all some random guy leaves in the tags and how novelly, indescribably happy it makes me, so thanks again! I'll keep on posting no matter what, but it is doubly, I guess, motivating??? energizing??? knowing that I'm sharing this with other people and there's the possibility of perhaps brightening their day a little as well. :D

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mahalshairyballs · 2 years

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A Jake and Steven scene this time, with some talk about Jake

We know Steven and Marc are Jewish, because they share the same childhood memories of before Steven's 'birth' (minus Randall...). Jake on the other hand is uh, well nothing. He has no faith.

I have this idea that their brain has been very cruel to Jake in more than one way. Jake doesn't share a lot of memories with them because he 'didn't need them' for what his role was supposed to be.

I don't even know if he got any of their early school memories, and even if he did - he might have forgotten all about them. Contrary to Steven who often fronted in school for Marc (see previous Steven headcanon), Jake barely ever went to school.

So Jake might not even be aware they're Jewish, and might not even know or remember anything from their school days *

Little fic scenes time

As stated in my previous metas about Jake, Jake never fronted continously for that long, at most a couple days if even. So he never really had the luxury of figuring out who he was. He just knew he wasn't Marc. So he didn't disrupt Marc's life that much, or change anything about the body, he didn't see the point of doing that.

Now that they were letting him front for longer, he could figure out what his aesthetics were. In addition to that hat, he tried to grow a mustache. Both Steven and Marc were against it. So he had to get a fake one. It looked real enough.

There was this necklace the body was often wearing. Jake looked at it in the mirror. It reminded him too much of Marc, he didn't really like it. So he took it off in one tug and left it on the drawer.

** A day or so later, Steven is fronting **

Steven : 'Layla, do you know what happened to our star of David necklace ?'

Layla, coming into the bedroom : 'No, what happened?'

Steven: 'It's broken !'

Steven showed her the necklace in his hand, it was indeed broken.

Steven : 'Did Marc break it ?'

Layla : 'I don't remember if he did, maybe ? Wouldn't he have told you ?'

Steven : ' He would, he knows we both care about it, he wouldn't just pretend nothing happened to it...'

Layla : 'Then if it's neither of you...maybe it's Jake? He did front yesterday.'

Steven : 'I'll ask him.'

Steven manipulated the golden chain one last time with saddened eyes.

Layla : 'It can be repaired I'm sure', she said rubbing Steven's back for comfort.

** Later that day in their innerspace **

Steven : 'Jake, did you break our necklace?'

Jake : 'What necklace?'

Steven : 'The star of David one !'

Jake : '???'

Steven : 'this one !' Steven showed an exact replica which appeared in his hand.

Jake : 'Oh! Hm, I took it off.'

Steven : 'By breaking it !?'

Jake : '...yeah, sorry'

Steven : 'Look, this necklace is important to Marc and I. If you don't want to wear it it's fine, but next time can you take it off normally ? I'll get it repaired.'

Jake : 'Sure, no problem. Sorry again, I didn't think it would upset you.'

Steven : 'Just don't break our stuff again okay ?'

Jake : 'Got it.'

** Another day, in their bedroom **

Jake : 'Layla! Can you take this off ?'

Layla got out of her sitting position on the bed and walked to him. Jake pointed at the golden necklace on his neck.

Layla : 'gimme a few seconds', she opened the chain's lock, 'here you go'.

Jake : 'thanks'

Layla was about to delicately place the necklace on the nightstand when a thought crossed her mind.

Layla : 'Do you know how to take off a necklace?'

Jake : 'yeah...sure...I...do'

Layla giggled : 'you don't know how !'

Jake : 'Look, it's not like it's in my job description okay. I had other stuff to think about.'

Layla : 'relax, I'm poking fun', she said still giggling, 'here let me show you.'

Tl;dr Jake pulled on the chain because he didn't know how to take off a necklace.

Jake is quite an interesting character, he's very knowledgeable in some stuff, but then isn't aware of very basic things. He's rarely a dick on purpose (except to Marc just for the fun of annoying him) he just has a lot left to learn.

If Jake doesn't know/remember much about basic schooling, Steven will teach him. Steven will also happily teach him about Judaism. I think Steven would make a good teacher, and he'd enjoy it.

* putting this part at the end for cw abuse

There's a way more crushing aspect of it too. I think Jake might not even have been aware who that woman torturing him was, until Marc told him, the only time they spoke when they were children. And then Marc completely forgot about that interaction. But Jake didn't. As Steven was who got Marc to keep going, Marc was the one who got Jake to keep going. What he was going through wasn't completely senseless anymore - it was still completely unjustified evil and cruel - but Jake wasn't completely lost about it anymore.

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