#propertius

[latin-literature-tourney]

Latin Literature Tournament - Round 1

Propaganda under the cut:

Horace Propaganda:

Odes 1.37 had a huge impact on me as a baby undergrad... It's so fucking beautiful

Brings some Hellenistic flair to the uniquely Roman satire, and his Satires are funny as hell

Incorporates Epicureanism so beautifully into his poetry, and his easy style reflects this really well I think

Propertius Propaganda

If you like obscure references and intertexts, this is the author for you

Of all the puellae doctae, Cynthia is the doctissima

You really can't overstate the influence of his 'logopoeia,' seen most famously in Ezra Pound

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[lionofchaeronea]

On the Augustan Temple of Apollo on the Palatine

Propertius II.31 You ask why I’ve come to you late? The golden portico      Of Phoebus had been opened by great Caesar. So great a sight it was divided into by Punic columns –      Among them, the daughter-crowd of old Danaus. Here marble Phoebus seemed to gape in song to the silent lyre      (More handsome, it seemed to me, than the god himself); Around the altar stood a herd of Myron’s: four      Crafted cows, statues that looked alive. Then the temple (shining marble) rose in the middle,      Even dearer to Phoebus than Ortygia his homeland: On which, atop the roof-pole, was the chariot of the Sun,     And doors, a noble work of Libyan ivory – The one mourned Gauls cast down from Parnassus’ peak,      The other, the deaths of Tantalus’s daughter. Last, the Pythian god, between his mother and sister,      In a long garment, rings out with song.

Quaeris, cur veniam tibi tardior? aurea Phoebi     porticus a magno Caesare aperta fuit. tantam erat in speciem Poenis digesta columnis,     inter quas Danai femina turba senis. hic equidem Phoebus visus mihi pulchrior ipso     marmoreus tacita carmen hiare lyra; atque aram circum steterant armenta Myronis,     quattuor artifices, vivida signa, boves. tum medium claro surgebat marmore templum,     et patria Phoebo carius Ortygia: in quo Solis erat supra fastigia currus;     et valvae, Libyci nobile dentis opus, altera deiectos Parnasi vertice Gallos,     altera maerebat funera Tantalidos. deinde inter matrem deus ipse interque sororem     Pythius in longa carmina veste sonat.

The remains of Apollo's temple on the Palatine Hill, Rome. Photo credit: Antmoose/Wikimedia Commons.

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[arsanimarum]

[The departed spirits are something real: death does not end everything; a pale shadow escapes from the extinguished pyre.]

#literature #bibliophile #quotes #poetry #upload #literary #propertius #agony #on death #spirit #death #latin words #latin quotes #latin translation #latin

[ovidiana]

The Dead Romans Society - Vates

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#dead roman society #tagamemnon #vates #horace #ovid #vergil #catullus #propertius #tibullus

[bones-ivy-breath]

Propertius 2.22A (tr. Peter Bing and Rip Cohen), from Games of Venus: An Anthology of Greek and Roman Erotic Verse from Sappho to Ovid

#propertius #quote #typography #games of venus #aesthetic #dark academia #light academia #dead academia #poetry #latin poetry #roman poetry #roman literature #latin literature #dark things #wound

[blackswaneuroparedux]

Naturae sequitur semina quisque suae

- Propertius, Elegies 3.9.20

Each follows the seeds of their own nature.

#propertius #roman #latin #classical #quote #femme #beauty #wolf #nature #human nature

[lapithai]

Pchat Romans featuring Gladiator (Lez)

#ancient rome #classics #roman history #pliny the elder #Nero #cassius #cassius dio #propertius #ovid #cicero #gladiator #commodus #maximus

[mus-urbanus]

'one must wonder whether propertius and cynthia had a safe word' – my awkward nerd of a latin teacher

#pip squeaks #tagamemnon #propertius

[t0yearnf0r]

I’ve been writing my dissertation on Latin love elegy and up until now it has been ENTIRELY too heterosexual. Only now have I begun talking about homoeroticism. Disappointed. Will have to make it more gay

#Ancient Rome #ancient history #elegy #catullus #gaius valerius catullus #propertius #Tibullus #ovid #ovid's metamorphoses #university

[catilinas]

she mono on my biblos until i cynthia finis erit

#propertius #beeps

[curiositycabinetofel]

Propertius may be the ultimate struggler of the Roman elegies but his obsession with his lover and the resulting suffering are very touching. “Why does such beauty linger on earth among mortals? // Jupiter, I understand your amours in days of old” is absolutely insane

My favorite detail: the first word of the first poem in his Elegies is the name of his lover, Cynthia

#Propertius #classicism #roman poetry

[classicschronicles]

Hi lovelies,

You would think that when you finished school you would have an unimaginable amount of free time, it turns out that’s not true. I would know because I’m supposed to be getting ready for prom but i thought i would have time to write an article, and I was very much incorrect. Anyways, instead, I’m going to share a poem by one of my favourite classical poets- Propertius. This is from his works ‘The Elegies’.

Book II.3:1-54

You who said that nothing could touch you now, you’re caught: that pride of yours is fallen! You can hardly find rest for a single month, poor thing, and now there’ll be another disgraceful book about you.

I tried whether a fish could live on dry sand it has never known before, or a savage wild boar in the sea, or whether I could keep stern studies’ watch by night: love is deferred but never destroyed.

It was not her face, bright as it is, that won me (lilies are not more white than my lady; as if Maeotic snows contended with the reds of Spain, or rose-petals swam in purest milk) nor her hair, ordered, flowing down her smooth neck, nor her eyes, twin fires, that are my starlight, nor the girl shining in Arabian silk (I am no lover flattering for nothing): but how beautifully she dances when the wine is set aside, like Ariadnetaking the lead among the ecstatic cries of the Maenads, and how when she sets herself to sing in the Sapphic style, she plays with the skill of Aganippe’s lyre, and joins her verse to that of ancient Corinna, and thinks Erinna’s songs inferior to her own.

When you were born, mea vita, did Love, dressed in white, not sneeze a clear omen for you, in your first hours of daylight? The gods granted you these heavenly gifts: in case you think your mother gave them to you: such gifts beyond the human are not inborn: these graces were not a nine-month creation. You are born to be the unique glory of Roman girls: you’ll be the first Roman girl to sleep with Jove, and never visit mortal beds amongst us. The beauty of Helen returns a second time to Earth.

Why should I marvel now that our youths are on fire with her? It would have been more glorious for you, Troy, to have perished because of this. I used to marvel a girl could have caused so mighty a war, Asia versus Europe at Pergama. But Paris, and Menelaus, you were wise, Menelaus demanding her return, Paris slow to reply. That face was something: that even Achilles died for: even to Priam a proven cause for war. If any man wants to outdo the fame of ancient paintings, let him take my lady as model for his art: If he shows her to the East, to the West, he’ll inflame the West, and inflame the East.

At least let me keep within bounds! Or if it should be a further love comes to me, let it be fiercer and let me die. Just as the ox at first rejects the plough, but later accepts the yoke and goes quiet to the fields, so spirited youth frets at first, in love, but takes the rough with the smooth later, tamed. Melampus the prophet, accepted shame in chains, convicted of stealing Iphiclus’s cattle, but Pero’s great beauty drove him not profit, she his bride to be in Amythaons’ house.

I hope you enjoyed reading this as much as I did, and I hope you all have a lovely week <3

~Z

#classical studies #classics #dark acamedia #greek mythology #ancient rome #roman mythology #ancient greece #ancient world #history #hellenic deities #poets corner #poetry #propertius #prom

[zmaragdos]

"Virgil and Horace, Propertius and Tibullus, were all alive and singing when Ovid was a young man at Rome" Frazer, Introduction to the Fasti.

AKA, my dream Augustan boy band...

#tibullus #horace #propertius #virgil #my art #just doctae poetae being doctae poetae #i gave horace and propertius lyres bc they're the only ones actually cited as playing the lyre.. #rocking out #bringing the scaena down #ovid #augustan boy band

[abybweisse]

Good Afternoon Abby, Do you think the phantomhive ring hold some kind of a curse that may associate with the nature of the diamond (curse of the hope diamond theory) and its effects in real life , maybe yana-sensei references this in the early chapters when lizzy smashes the P ring ?

Cursed ring?

Idk what the ring's stone is supposed to be in manga canon. The anime suggests it's a chip from the Hope Diamond, long believed to cause the untimely death of its owners, but the manga hasn't mentioned diamonds.

The manga has mentioned sapphire, but only in the context of Sapphire House at Weston. There is also a really deeply placed reference to a ring with a beryl stone, also during the Weston arc (ch73): if you read the elegy (look for Book IV.7:1-96 Cynthia: From Beyond the Grave on this page... or in an old post, and here's the Latin) that Sebastian has the Latin class read, it's about a man who's haunted by the ghost of a woman who is angry at him for not mourning her properly, and she claims his slave girl poisoned her. There's stuff about her funeral, the rivers of the Underworld, Cerberus and other figures, and a ring with a beryl stone -- her funeral pyre had damaged the ring (maybe partly melted the band off her finger?). Beryls can be a lovely deep blue, like the stone in the Phantomhive ring. More old posts: X X X I'm particularly fond of the idea that the Phantomhive ring has a maxixe beryl, like this one:

Idk what stone we are really dealing with. But if the Phantomhive ring really is cursed, then why would they keep it? Who needs an heirloom destined to get its owner killed from generation to generation?

#black butler #kuroshitsuji #anime vs manga #phantomhive ring #diamond #hope diamond #sapphire #beryl #elegies #sextus propertius #propertius #the elegies #curses #cursed ring? #anon asks #i answer #answered asks #may 7 2022 #ch73 #maxixe beryl #beryl aeroides

[psychidion]

propertius, elegies 1.1.1-8

Cynthia prima suis miserum me cepit ocellis, contactum nullis ante cupidinibus. tum mihi constantis deiecit lumina fastus et caput impositis pressit Amor pedibus, donec me docuit castas odisse puellas improbus, et nullo vivere consilio. et mihi iam toto furor hic non deficit anno, cum tamen adversos cogor habere deos.

Cynthia, first, caught me with her eyes, pitiful me who had never before been corrupted by any desires. Then Love dashed the steady pride from my eyes and pressed my head down with his feet, until he, the scoundrel, taught me to hate chaste girls and to live without a plan or purpose. And now for a whole year this madness has not abandoned me, as I am forced still to have antagonistic gods.

#latin #latin language #latin translation #classics #classical poetry #elegy #love poetry #propertius #poetry #poetry translation #my own work #dys blurbs #I was not expecting to enjoy propertius' voice so much

[portraitofapo3t]

just read four different versions of the hercules and cacus myth and what im getting is that the romans were uber obsessed with cattle being pulled backwards by the tail… not much else is consistent !!

#hercules #cacus #dark academia #classics #poetry #epic poetry #the aeneid #fasti #vergil #ovid #livy #propertius #there are so many variations #roman mythology #rome