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greenhappyseed · 2 years

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Where do you think all might and deku’s relationship will proceed from ch 326 onwards?

@dadmight-and-deku-lover Oh man, that is a billion dollar question for me, and I know there’s been discourse and meta recently on whether All Might and Izuku have evolved beyond mentor and successor roles. Because we are near the end of the story, I’m going to work backward, rather than forward: I think we will get a satisfying ending with Izuku, All Might, and Tenko alive and together in some form. (Horikoshi loves these goobers.) Shigaraki is Izuku’s villain to save, and I have a feeling All Might will apologize to Tenko as part of — or maybe just after — the save effort. All Might wasn’t there to save Tenko earlier because he rigidly followed his own mentor, Nana, and he’s been kicking himself since. We also know Izuku, All Might, and Tenko are going to be critical in destroying AFO in the vestige plane. Horikoshi’s emphasized in like 5 chapters that All Might is THISCLOSE to being able to tap into his vestige. (Oh, and Star’s arc had heavy references to the Two Heroes movie, which is the only time Izuku and All Might fight side by side.) As a result, I am certain Izuku and All Might will come together at some point in this battle. We WILL get there….but right now Izuku is zooming to UA, and All Might is in/near Central Hospital at the police command center. They’re apart. Sure, we had the reunion in Ch. 327, but it was weird and stilted. It feels like something is off between All Might and Izuku, and we aren’t sure if there’s enough time to fix it. Given where we are in the story, I think their distance is meant to add angst to the finale. However, I see some really positive signs! Despite their separation, All Might and Izuku are aligned on their goals, they fully believe the other can reach those goals, and they’re communicating as much as they ever have. They are going to reunite and it’s going to be okay. Here’s why:

All Might’s last conversation directly with Izuku (that we know of — there could be flashbacks coming) had Izuku apologizing for being a frightened teenager. Likewise, All Might apologized for being of “so little help” (meaning his inability to talk to Izuku and say the words he knew he needed to say). Nothing deep there, especially with half the class watching. But then they agreed to work together going forward — a shared promise with Class President Iida — and that’s exactly what’s happening. All Might worked with Aizawa, Tsukauchi, 1A, 1B, and the pros to create the battle plans….and he put Bakugo by Izuku’s side. Moreover, they worked with Shinso and Aoyama to pull off the initial surprise attack on AFO, and it worked. To think about it another way, Izuku wanted to reach out a hand and help Aoyama be a hero. All Might and Aizawa supported him in making it happen, and narratively they were rewarded with a win.

Unlike the war arc and the villain hunt arc, All Might and Izuku can communicate with each other in this fight. We found out in 353 that All Might knew Izuku was diverted with Toga, but was now on his way to UA. And All Might is the one announcing status updates to the group, so Izuku is hearing All Might in his ear. I’m sure the villains will cut off comms at some point, but it’s notable that as of right now they’re communicating during a battle, because that hasn’t happened since…USJ?

There is also a deep trust underlying the fact that they’re not physically together. To go forward in time for a second, remember when All Might wanted Izuku to have an “I am here” moment? Then, after the Sports Festival, he dropped that and wanted to help the kid be the best hero possible? And then, after the war, it became “I’m going with you, whether you like it or not!” because All Might was scared for Izuku? Well, now All Might trusts Izuku and 1A — Izuku knows the battle plans and he has his quirks and powerful friends by his side. Moreover, All Might understands Izuku doesn’t need or want All Might to put himself in danger, but Izuku does need All Might’s leadership on the heroes’ side. In 327, when All Might talks about how his body limits his ability, Izuku just cuts him off because he doesn’t need All Might to justify or explain that he can’t physically fight. Everyone playing their part and doing what they can is the important thing, and All Might is all in. I’m sure All Might’s safety will be challenged eventually, but at the moment he and Izuku trust the other is as safe as they can be while both are doing their best to stop AFO.

That brings me to the meta point: MHA is not, and has never been, about duos. Duos tend to be claustrophobic echo chambers. For example, Izuku needed more than Inko to make his dreams come true; he needed All Might. Bakugo and Izuku needed All Might to help them contextualize their relationship. All Might needed more than Izuku to learn to live without OFA — he needed adults like Inko, Aizawa, and Stain. He needed to see 1A fight for Izuku to know his boy didn’t need the former Symbol training or guiding him any more. The same is true right now for Hawks; he needs more than Endeavor, he needs the thoughtful seriousness and steady loyalty that Tokoyami brings to the table.

All Might and Izuku still very much need each other, but not the way they once did. They now need other people too, and that’s okay. I don’t see this as incompatible with Dadmight at all. Quite the opposite, actually. It’s a sign that their 2+ year relationship is maturing to one of adult parent and ADULT child. Full disclosure: I think I’m biased to see this because I’m a parent of teenagers myself. It’s a strange transition, wanting to hold your child close and keep them to yourself, but needing to let them go off into a big (sometimes scary!) world. Knowing that their friends are more important than you in their daily life when a year ago you were their everything. Hearing them say “buzz off” when you’re pretty sure they’re hurting and you’d give anything to help. You play your part, stepping back and guiding them when they ask, or stepping in when they are obviously drowning (this is where All Might flubbed, IMO), but all you can do is keep an open line of communication in the meantime. It’s a natural process that’s necessary for a teen, and the separation doesn’t indicate that either person loves the other any less.

So, where do our boys go from 326/327? I think, once we are through this final battle and we have Tenko in the mix, we’ll see Izuku and All Might reuniting, but their relationship will be different. Izuku no longer needs All Might to teach him the hero basics, but he’ll need the man to cheer him on and create a safe space for a chat. All Might will be proud of his boy and need to be there for him, even long after All Might is living for reasons other than raising Izuku right.

#all might #toshinori yagi #yagi toshinori #izuku midoriya #midoriya izuku #Deku #dadmight #dad might #bnha spoilers #mha spoilers #bnha 354 #mha 354 #bnha 327 #mha 327 #mha meta #bnha meta

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misplacedgamer · 2 years

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The fucking poetry of AFO calling Bakugo nothing but Izuku’s shadow-the thing Bakugo has struggled with since he was 4 years old???? When we KNOW Izuku actually feels the opposite??? And how that’s been the root of their miscommunication for the whole story?????????

#bnha 360 #bnha spoilers #mha spoilers #bnha analysis #bnha meta #bkdk #bakudeku #THIS CHAPTER JUST KEEPS GIVING #THIS IS THE MOST IVE CARED ABOUT A CHAPTER SINCE 327 #BNHA I MISSED YOU

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animanication · 2 years

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I just noticed something really funny in the BNHA manga that I wanted to point out to y'all

First we see Shoto being a Prettyroki as per usual

And then this mf decides to try and imitate him (and Sero roasts him good)

Cut to Shoto Prettyroki having a moment again

AND THEN THIS MF TRIES AGAIN (and Sero smacks him)

Conclusion? Everybody say thank you to Sero

#i live for the class 1A shenanigans #i found mineta so funny in this scene i just had to #stupid mf you think you can get on the level of mr prettyroki here #shoto beats you by his admission and your expulsion in a 10 scale rating #but still #points for tying ig 🤷🏽‍♂️#bnha chapter 327 #bnha #mha #mha chapter 327 #my hero academia #boku no hero academia #todoroki shoto fanart #shoto todoroki #hanta sero #sero hanta #minoru mineta #mineta minoru

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makethiscanon · 1 year

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Tailman, I--

I am DECEASED.

💛

Did... did the animators finally decide they like my tailbean?

THANK YOU.

#i love him your honor #always slept on #us who love him know what's up #tailbean for life #ojiro #mashirao #bnha #manga #deku #chapter 327 #season 6 #ojiro gif #hero suit #bath scene #tailman

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mettywiththenotes · 2 years

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uwuzuku’s

#holy trinity #bnha #bnha 352 #bnha manga spoilers #bnha spoilers #izuku midoriya #1st is from 352 #2nd is from 327 #3rd is from 324 #mettys posts #metty posts

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helga-grinduil · 1 year

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ANIME ONLY SHIGARAKI CRUMBS FROM THIS EPISODE...

#they gave IZUKU A NIGHTMARE ABOUT TOMURA AND AFO LMFAOOOO #GOD THIS MIGHT'VE JUST REDEEMED THE ENTIRE CHAPTER 327 FOR ME #bnha #bnha s6 #bnha s6 spoilers #midoriya izuku #shimura tenko #shigaraki tomura #afo

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seeyouafter · 2 months

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SYA Extended Notes Ch. 39-44

Or: Acceptance and healing - some thoughts on Shouto's post-war journey

Notes for "See You After" Chapter 44: August 2: Shouto's Journal - Unsent Letter

I can’t forget what happened but maybe someday I’ll be able to forgive you so that I can put all of it behind me and move on. I don’t know what that means for us or for our family, but I hope that someday I’ll be able to show you that I’m proud of who I’ve become in spite of everything you did.

I originally started typing this up to post with chapter 39 but decided to wait until after this chapter, and Shouto's unsent letter, to share my thoughts on how I imagine he and his family might begin to navigate the healing process.

In essence, I think that a post-war arc for Shouto involves him taking the time to process the things he went through and to decide for himself what he wants to do going forward.

This fic inevitably contains my personal headcanons of what Shouto's healing journey might involve after the war ends. Of course, there are as many interpretations of what "should" happen next as there are readers, but these are a few of my thoughts in relation to "See You After" so far.

Acceptance is the first step

I talked a bit about this in the extended notes for Chapters 10-11, but up until this point, I really don't think Shouto saw what Endeavor did to him as abuse. Even if he knew it on an intellectual level, he probably didn't want to accept it for various reasons. Although he did acknowledge that what his father did to his mom was abuse, when he expresses his anger toward his father, it's always framed around what he did to his mom (and later Touya).

BNHA 192: The Todoroki Family & 249: The Hellish Todoroki Family

One of those reasons probably has something to do with the way Touya revealed Endeavor's abuse of his family, specifically Shouto, very publicly and out of spite toward their father.

BNHA 291: Thanks for Going Strong

Shouto never had a say in the matter and Touya didn't do him any favors. Rather than viewing him with sympathy for being a victim, the public views him with suspicion because of his blood ties to a mass murderer and an abuser. Of course, that's not fair, but that's the cultural context of the society they're living in.

BNHA 325: The Bonds of One for All & BNHA 327: Rest

Guilt, Blame, and Responsibility

Shouto has been the one carrying the burden of his father's mistakes for his entire life, but even moreso since Touya reappeared. Unlike Touya, he blames his father completely, but I don't think Touya is entirely wrong when he says that Rei is guilty too. She's a victim, of course, and most of it was beyond her control, but she agreed to the marriage, knowing what it was. Moreover, it is a parent's responsibility to take care of their children, and she wasn't able to do that. Even though it wasn't her intention and Shouto refuses to blame her for hurting him, there's still a lot to unpack and a lot of trust that needs to be rebuilt.

BNHA 249: The Hellish Todoroki Family & BNHA 302: The wrong way to put out a fire, part 2

Natsuo and Fuyumi's guilt about not being able to do anything was realistic and understandable, but they were also children and it wasn't their responsibility to fix everything, which makes their experiences heartbreaking in a different way. There's a lot for all of them to reconcile on their own and as a family.

Rei showing up at the hospital and meeting Endeavor face to face again took a great deal of courage, and I don't think we can fault her for the things she says. Although it shouldn't be any of the children's responsibility, they do all have to deal with the fallout, which I think was the point she was trying to make here. But once again, the burden fell on Shouto to be their family's hero.

Shouto believes that he has to be strong because he's a hero. And while that's admirable, that mindset is part of the larger problem. So far in canon, we've mostly seen Shouto protecting his mom, not the other way around. And that's part of his character, his foundation as a hero - the way he had the instinct to protect when he was just a child, and his decision to take the first step after the sports festival to reach out and save her.

But it still kills me that their reunion scene in the hospital post PLF war was skipped over just so there could be a big reveal when the family went to confront Enji.

BNHA 298: Sounds of Collapse & BNHA 300: The Hellish Todoroki Family, Part 2

In this scene, Shouto had his hand on Rei's back to support her, meanwhile not once do we see him get a hug or any comforting touch from any of the people who should be there to support him. (A lot of Chapter 39 of "See You After" came from my desire for just that)

Identity and the choice to become a hero

BNHA 39: Todoroki Shouto: Origin

Shouto's fight with Izuku during the sports festival was the start of him reclaiming his identity as his own person, separate from his father, and reaffirming his desire to become a hero on his own terms. Still, the fact that he never really had the choice to try to be anything else is something to consider, especially as we see the rest of the world question the role of heroes and the overall system.

Names are important

BNHA 45: Time to pick some names (+anime ep. 26)

I really love the symbolism of Shouto's hero name. By using his real name, he's essentially refusing to separate his identity as a hero from who he is as a person, which is important because of how he makes a clear distinction between Endeavor (the hero) and Enji (the father). But something that's often lost in translation is Shouto's choice to use the phonetic spelling: ショート instead of the kanji characters: 焦凍 (meaning to burn and to freeze), which I've always interpreted as a statement of his desire to exist as an individual beyond the context of his quirks.

It was hard to convey in this fic because I'm obviously writing it in English, but I wanted to make it clear that he signed the unsent letter as ショート because of what it symbolizes.

I feel like Shouto would probably have a complicated relationship with his given name because Endeavor valued him solely for his quirk. Meanwhile, "Todoroki" is a constant reminder of his family's legacy in the aftermath of Touya's broadcast.

I like to think that even before their conversation during the long phone call at the end of chapter 39, Katsuki understood this on some level. That's why in this fic, even though he rotates through a variety of nicknames (in their earlier letters, he uses a different one each time), he rarely calls Shouto by his last name, unless he's trying to make a point (like in his letter in Chapter 11 and the phone call in Chapter 19).

That's something I leaned into when I started writing the transition to them using each others' given names back during their text conversation in Chapter 36. (Originally, I thought it was going to happen quite a bit later in the story, but writing is a funny thing and characters sometimes have minds of their own.)

#sorry this ended up being super long #i have a lot of thoughts #i usually just incorporate them into fanfic but i saved a lot of chapter references so i figured i would share #sya extended notes #sya: bridges #dancing girl writes #see you after fic

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class1akids · 1 year

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I have always been bothered by shouto saying she ( rei) forgave him what did shouto do to rei that he would need her forgiveness she threw boiling water on him (

You have to remember that Shouto is not saying this as an objective truth, but his own perception / thinking of the situation. It's not a question whether Shouto did anything that would have required Rei's forgiveness, but that he, personally felt like he needed Rei's permission to move on.

I think people focus so much on Izuku "saving Shouto" in their match that they forget how the SF ends. Shouto is not magically saved, he gets a kick in the right direction, but at the same time he's sent spinning into self-doubt and a whole lot of uncomfortable self-reflection that paralyze him to the point of throwing the final match.

Shouto built an entire self out of hating his dad and "denying him fire" on behalf of his mom's suffering specifically. So when Izuku points out the very inconvenient truth that his power is his own and so are the decisions he makes, it becomes clear that while Shouto's anger is justified, his "methods" made him ironically more like Endeavor.

Another thing people tend to forget that Izuku's words hit because it's something Shouto already knew. If you look at Shouto's Origin chapter, the core question is "when did I forget that?" And if you read through the flashbacks, this is the important part. Rei tried to protect him and tell him that he does have agency and freedom to choose, and Shouto feels like who he is in that moment is not what his mom wanted him to be.

But when something you hold as your truth falls apart, it's not very easy to find a direction. So Shouto is in a fucked-up headspace after the SF.

This is a very very heavy thing to say, but given his childhood, his "origin", the reason of his existence, it's not out of question that Shouto feels a whole lot of misplaced guilt.

He may know on a rational level that he never asked to be born, but yet still internalize the irrational feeling that it was his birth that broke the family, that caused Touya's death, his mother's suffering.

He sees now that in order to move on, he needs to leave the prison of anger he put himself in on his mom's behalf. He needs to hear it from Rei that it's ok to not make hating Endeavor the reason for his entire existence.

And he's surprised to realize not only that his intuition was real, Rei still wants him to be free and happy, but also that his mom needed the same thing from him - a permission to heal and forgive herself and get better.

I think for a person who grew up the way Shouto did (without a functioning parental figure, isolated, trained, abused, objectified, denied agency), it would take years of proper therapy to come to turns with everything. So I appreciate that HK makes Shouto's healing a non-linear, slow-burn arc, where he keeps struggling with mental obstacles, with his relationship with Endeavor, PTSD episodes and generally spends a lot of time inside his own head trying to figure out what to do and if it's the right thing to do.

And he does. He does start to become more gentle with himself for losing his way, seeing that it was almost "inevitable" to be lost like that given his circumstances.

I feel like him seeing his own shadow in Touya is like a kind of "shonen-therapy" for Shouto. It's not enough to physically beat Touya, he needs to help his brother to come out of that prison of hate too. And it does come down to the ultimate lesson of "you choose the reason of your own existence".

Shouto is coming close to saying "this is why I was born", "this is my purpose", but he hasn't really gone all the way yet. (I think he will, to save Touya).

TL;DR: Shouto's apology to Rei doesn't mean that he's done anything wrong to his mom - but that he internally holds himself accountable for losing his way and letting himself be locked into a negative, hateful worldview that he forgot what she taught him and he almost lost himself. It's something Shouto keeps taking responsibility for.

The apology is a starting point - a permission to move on, with the hope that people can change - like Shouto changed, like everyone in the family is changing.

And I think this is message of hope - that anyone can change and stop being captive to hate or guilt or other negative emotions - that's going to be in the focus of the Todoroki family climax. Shining a light to Touya, the last family member who is still locked in that darkness that Endeavor created for them.

#c1a asks #bnha meta #todoroki shouto #todoroki rei #bnha 44 #bnha 39 #bnha 246 #bnha 327 #bnha 352

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bnhaobservation · 1 year

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Ramblings about BNHA chap 381

And here chap 381 comes…

..and I’ll warn you beforehand so you know if you want to keep reading or not, this is not a chapter I particularly enjoyed because fundamentally nothing happens, beyond the story trying to give a positive light to the heroes… which wouldn’t be bad at all if it wasn’t for the way it chose to go at it… All for One going for a Villain decay path and… a previous important point of the story being destroyed. So, if you decide to keep on reading, don’t expect words of praises for this chap. Consider yourself warned.

In fact we start with the POSITIVE VIBES immediately thanks to the Shiketsu kids and, more specifically, thanks to Shishikura’s inspiring speech who claims he’d like to kill All for One for killing his father but won’t do it because his father was a prison guard set to protect.

This of course remarks how nobles the hero kids are, you might remember how, back in the past, Stain scolded Iida for giving in to hate because a real hero wouldn’t have gone there for selfish reasons but to save Native.

So where’s the problem?

Shishikura’s father is a Tartarus guard and, although we don’t know exactly who, among them, he was, from the little we saw of the Tartarus guards, they viewed the Villains as sub humans, beasts, and would have probably not hesitated to kill All for One if they had been given the chance.

We’ve the bit in chap 297, with a Tartarus guard who claimed all the Villains there are disasters on legs or wild beasts, animals, claiming that the convict might walk and talk like people but are actually disgusting beings who only managed to be allowed inside society solely because Quirk have warped the standards for humanity, while we’re also informed Tartarus is basically MHA version of Alcatraz with plenty of accusation of human right violations… and we’ve the guard in chap 327 who yes, managed to heroically hold the information that Stain will later deliver to All Might, but also clearly shared the previous guard’s ideal as he asked Stain if he was a man or a beast.

Maybe neither of them was Shishikura’s father, all right, but since we saw them, they left an impression and this impression wasn’t of positive role models.

Yeah, they guarded the prison, which resulted in protecting people from criminals… but what about protecting the prisoners from human violations?

It would have felt better if Shishikura aimed to surpass his father, to protect everyone, to be always rightful, instead take him as a role model.

That, or we could have been shown a Tartarus guard that actually was a role model, someone against mistreatment of prisoners and who wanted to improve things at Tartarus.

The way Tartarus is depicted, a place in which Villains are abused and jailed for life so that they can be forgotten instead than reformed is why, when someone suggests that the LOV should end in it to pay for their crimes, I would find more merciful if Horikoshi were just to kill them. There’s no redemption path in Tartarus, it’s just a place to bury them alive.

Meanwhile, thanks to Inasa we move on DESTROYING SOMETHING THAT HAD SEEMED SO IMPORTANT PREVIOUSLY.

In fact Inasa is effortlessly holding the Toga as Twice’s clones at bay.

Why this is a problem?

Because the whole excuse for Twice’s death was that his Quirk was oh so powerful if he were to be left free to run rampant, the heroes would have lost the war and Hawks, to save the war, had no other solution but kill him.

Hawks knew of Twice’s Quirk. Students were deployed during the previous war as well. Yes, they didn’t ask Inasa, but they should have if he could be the solution without causing any death.

It was all organized and planned with so much care, Endeavor and Eraser Head knew of Inasa’s Quirk and Twice’s Quirk was known as well and… no one thought at it?

What’s more, Twice’s Quirk was never used to his full potential, not back then nor now.

I mean, in both situations Twice and Toga as Twice are using the Sad Man’s parade… when they should have just cloned Shigaraki or Dabi or All for One.

Twice has strength in numbers, but Twice isn’t particularly strong or fast, we saw how Geten could easily kill a good bunch of Twices with his ice attacks… but we might have given it a pass because if Twices were to keep on coming the heroes would eventually exhaust themselves… but here we’re outright told they just had the perfect Quirk to stop the Twice problem and… didn’t even think to use it.

And yet, we’re not really tackling how bad it was from Hawks to kill Twice. Actually, since the sad man’s parade was so easily stopped, it seems as if Himiko’s revenge too won’t manage to affect him and, anyway, he’s just not caring to face her (and Twice).

Yeah, maybe this will come back to bite him later, maybe one Himiko will manage to get to him and make him regret what he did but it’s been a long time from Twice’s death and it risks to become a case of too little too late.

It would have been a great development for Hawks to ponder on what he did, to face it, and I was fine with waiting a bit but… all this waiting makes me wonder if at the end there will really be a payoff or if it will be all just shrugged off or rushed through. We’ll see.

Okay, going on with the next part which is… A RECAP OF THINGS WE ALREADY KNEW.

We’re remembered that Deku and Shigaraki left U.A., which we shouldn’t have forgotten already since it happened what? 2 chapters ago and was mentioned in the previous chapter as well.

Tsukauchi has a chat with Hawks in which we’re told Shiketsu students came there on their own… which was also said on the previous chapter. How, in case someone has missed it, All for One got back his old body and how they’ve to keep All for One at Gunga because this could decide the whole war... which was something that was made clear from the start of the war, in case someone has forgotten.

We then get an All for One monologue in which he explains how he can solely steal Quirk by touching the body of the owner, not by touching the effects of the Quirk (meaning he can’t steal Touya or Enji’s Quirk by touching their fire or Kaminari by touching his electricity and so on)… which I would like to think everyone figured out already even without this monologue but whatever. I can’t remember this being spelled out, but I never really felt the need as it seemed intuitive enough.

Then All for One claims that why the heroes attacked him with solely Endeavor and Hawks instead than a larger force. Which we already knew as it was said in chap 354 and still wasn’t such a great plan.

All for Once goes on saying they’re now attacking him with a larger force because they’re tossing all precautions away… because yeah, in the previous chapters it was said the divide and conquer strategy didn’t work and it was also made clear Endeavor and Hawks needed back up, but I guess it was important All for One were to remark it so we can waste some panels on all this.

So, in the best Shonen tradition, All for One starts using stronger attacks combining more Quirks together… only to focus on HERO POSITIVITY by showing how bravely they’re resisting to his attack.

Okay, this doesn’t have any backfiring, different from the previous one but… feels like a waste because it simmers down the threat that All for One is by showing the heroes resisting anyway.

All for One is a cool adversary as long as he’s scary, when he knocked down everyone in chap 89, we were all scared and in awe, and we got even more impressed when he could keep up with All Might, but now he’s not really sending the Number 4 and other heroes down on the ground causing them to be hospitalized for months. Now he’s sending Kinoko and Kamui Wood fly away but we hardly see the damage, so it doesn’t feel as scary as when Best Jeanist was sent on the ground with Midoriya’s group hidden and trembling in fear.

I’ll spend a moment talking about how Touya seems to be chasing Endeavor, who had previously promised he would FINALLY, FINALLY look at his son. Well, he’s apparently looking back at him as he seems to be escaping. Small consolation.

I know people have already joked on it and, actually, it’s possible the idea might be to lead Touya away from that battleground so as to cause his flames to shrunk while he’s away (because Inasa’s wind tears up trees and their roots, so they can’t feed the fire… but I guess this means they’ll end all up in the air? And there’s also rain) but who knows.

It sure doesn’t look good how Endeavor is letting his son burn himself alive, instead than doing something to stop him, like, I don’t know, talk to him, apologize or whatever.

But I think Endeavor’s plan was always to die with Touya (because it’s unlikely they’ll let them go to Tartarus together since in Tartarus prisoners has single rooms and therefore this would make hard for Enji to keep on watching over him) and watch over him while they’re in hell together, and not try to save him or something. Maybe he thinks if he wounds up as a corpse with Touya the same way his father wounded up as a corpse with the little girl he failed to save, it’ll count as atonement.

I don’t know. It feels like Horikoshi is planning to go for redemptive death, because as burned as it is, I’m not sure Touya can survive (and we were already told he shouldn’t have lived this long) and have him die due to this instead than being killed would be awfully convenient as it would be kind of a suicide instead than a murder and… well if Endeavor, who’s the one who caused Touya’s downfall, is the one who survives while Touya dies it won’t really be that inspiring so maybe Endeavor dies of blood loss due to his lost arm.

But whatever, let’s wait for future developments.

Meanwhile we move to… ALL FOR ONE GOING FOR A VILLAIN DECAY PATH.

What’s a Villain Decay path? The process by which a villain who is extremely scary on first appearance becomes a joke after a few more appearances.

So how’s being done.

All for One launches in a speech about how the heroes think they can beat him because they don’t know of his glorious past, his golden age… meaning until now he hadn’t accomplished anything worth looking scary or impressive or whatever. -_-

I mean, he’s not boasting about his powers, about how he broke All Might, about how he continued to manipulate the underworld, no, those things wouldn’t be scary at all, he boast about his glorious past, sounding like a grandpa who just can’t stop reminding everyone when he was young he did something great.

All for One isn’t the sleeping beauty who just awoke and can only talk to us about how he was in the past, to feel as a big threat to us readers, he has to impress us with what he did NOW. Or up close.

If he has to summon a golden age we hadn’t read about after he’d been around for so many chapters… we aren’t impressed. And the narrative seems to think it’s a bright idea to remark this by dismissing the whole of All for One’s speech.

In fact Inasa informs him he has studied all that at school… or better, All for One was condemned to damnatio memoriae and never mentioned in class but the dark age is some trashy thing they study at school so no big deal.

I hate to repeat this, but for the battle to work and the heroes be amazing, All for One has to feel like a genuine threat. If the heroes who’re attacking him en masse aren’t at disadvantage it isn’t scary.

Think at classic shonen like “Dragon Ball” or “Saint Seiya”.

The enemy is always this overpowering force that the hero must struggle with all he has to overcome and who feels fearsome until the hero finally manages to find inside himself enough strength to triumph.

Instead, although occasionally All for One’s group managed to land some good hits, the heroes have been more or less in a stronger position from the start.

They divided the group as they wanted. Yes, Deku didn’t end where they wanted but eventually got there and yes, Bakugo died but it was made clear it wasn’t permanent so no harm done.

Touya didn’t manage to cause any serious harm to Shouto, Shouto almost knocked him out and yes, Touya managed to recover and to reach Endeavor but he’s basically burned to a crisp.

Spinner was beaten up and half out of it due to incompatibility with his new Quirk and the people helping him decided against it because… violence is bad.

Yes, he freed Kurogiri, and Kurogiri managed to move people around but… Kurogiri is short circuiting now and even saved Eraser Head and Present Mic.

Skeptic basically didn’t manage to accomplish anything as all he did was thwarted by La Brava and Gentle and he was captured.

Himiko’s back up was taken care of, she used Sad Man’s parade but, guess what, Inasa is making it ineffective so she can’t face Hawks.

Shigaraki was out of commission for a while as All for One took control of him, but now he’s back and ready to fight Deku which, again, is a nail in how All for One’s plan fail and the man who previously predicted Lady Nagant would betray him, felt surprised when Lady Nagant continued to help the heroes.

As for All for One himself, Endeavor and Hawks managed to get a good hit at him but yes, he rewinds but then… does nothing but babble of how cool he was in the past? He doesn’t have to say anything about his present? He can’t show us how he’s cool RIGHT NOW?

But we pause a moment in his decay path to have another moment of hero positivity that doesn’t really work well with Inasa claiming he decided that he’s just going to cheer up for Shouto and Endeavor because their hot-blooded passion is going to make them win the day and he wants to see a future for the guys he’s cheering on which prompts Hawks to go in Endeavor’s fanboy mode, dismiss how Inasa mentioned Shouto too and claim it’s not just One for All but Endeavor also who’s linking people’s hearts together.

And why this doesn’t work very well?

Because the reason why Inasa decided to cheer for Endeavor is totally unconnected to Endeavor. Endeavor did nothing to gain that trust apart for fighting for the same side Inasa is fighting for.

Inasa, after his hero licence exam with Shouto, simply decided to give Endeavor a chance too based on how his interaction with Shouto affected him and then we never heard how he reacted to the news of how Endeavor abused his family, Shouto included, because it doesn’t look good for this HERO POSITIVITY moment.

And yeah, I guess it’s a big deal but it dismisses completely Endeavor’s previous abuse of his family. Which I get people who’re afraid of All for One don’t care about, why should they feel sorry for Shouto, Touya, Rei, Natsuo and Fuyumi when they can just have Enji fight in the frontlines to save them?

And don’t take me wrong, in many tales the wrongdoings of a man are forgiven due his doing some heroic acts… but this happens when he can make up for his wrongdoings directly to the people he wronged.

If character X murders someone and then saves 100 people, it might feel as he atoned, because he can’t undo the fact he killed someone but he can prove he has understood murdering his wrong and has given his all saving people.

But here all of Endeavor’s family is alive and the most he has done is to stop beating Shouto and Rei and building a new house for Fuyumi and Natsuo.

And let’s not forget Endeavor is the number 1 hero, which was what he longed for through all his life, as much as this fight can be risky and painful, this was what he wanted.

He’s not a child who didn’t know what he was getting into. His battle with All for One doesn’t work as atonement, it’s just his job, it can save him from the public opinion who might not care if he’s an abuser at home as long as he saves them, but it doesn’t wash away what he did to beloved characters.

Poor Shouto still has to see him acting like a father.

So this ‘oh, Endeavor, you too link people’s hearts’ speech, which is here merely to give out HERO POSITIVITY vibes, actually doesn’t work well.

And back to ALL FOR ONE GOING FOR A VILLAIN DECAY PATH we go.

All for One decides to steal some more Quirks, but his oh so powerful blast only manages to bloody Inasa a bit and not stop him at all, which again remarks how he’s not that all powerful and scary.

He then has an inner monologue in which he complains about how heroes has a light in their eyes which might go out but then is relight, which feels as another round of HERO POSITIVITY this time from a bad guy because heroes are so damn amazing and hopeful they impress even the big bad… which somehow doesn’t seem to fit with All for One. But whatever All for One never fully had his character well defined so he can do everything and the contrary of everything.

More ALL FOR ONE GOING FOR A VILLAIN DECAY PATH comes when All for One can’t read the mood and claim the heroes don’t dare to approach him for fear of losing their Quirk when we had Endeavor and Hawks getting up close in the past and other heroes still coming close enough if he were fast to move (and he can be fast, we saw him being fast in the past but now I guess he feels like being lazy), and then All for One challenges them to come to him and meet his fate because evidently he doesn’t want to run after them and expect them to come to him in a line and stand still so he can steal their Quirks comfortably. -_-

I wonder… where’s the chessmaster of the previous parts of the story, the guy who could predict people’s moves? The guy that since he had tons of Quirk was oh so fast and oh so strong? Where All for One went and who’s this stranger who realizes too late that Dark Shadow has gotten behind him and, when he does, seems to realize it’s an attack he needs to dodge at all costs because evidently Tokoyami now has an attack that’s scarier than Endeavor’s.

I get that part of MHA’s goal is to have the adult heroes pass the torch to the kid heroes, but it somehow feels again as if All for One got depowered if he’s scared of Tokoyami, because previously we were never told Tokoyami’s dark shadow could creep out even someone like him.

Tokoyami gives him a speech about darkness and how he doesn’t get to speak of the dark because they already devoured the darkness All for One brought and, as he does so, he thinks back at when they brought Midoriya back to U.A. as that moment evidently solved everything.

No, I don’t mean to say it didn’t help but… Japan was in disarray with all those Villains roaming so Midoriya finally getting a chance to rest among friends doesn’t really feel like they swallowed all the darkness All for One brought, just that they managed to turn on a light in it.

But whatever, Dark Shadow seems to be planning to devour All for One, so we get a speech about how the dark clouds and the flames having shrunk, as well as Tokoyami buring himself under earth, allowed him to build up his power. Then, again, Tokoyami reminds us that All for One can’t steal Endeavor’s power by grasping his flames, which was told to us pages ago, so that’s why he was chosen to support Hawks and Endeavor, since All for One can’t steal Tokoyami’s Quirk by touching Dark Shadow.

Then Dark Shadow seems to swallow All for One but, I guess, this can be his end or it’ll be a total left down if he gets knocked down in this way. But whatever, he’s on a Villan Decay path so it might be?

Still I don’t think this will be the case, they’ll probably will need to join forces with the LOV, it’s too early to defeat All for One.

Meanwhile we get an introspection bit saying

‘If I was able to connect to you even a little bit then I’m glad I was born with these filthy wings’

‘If I was able to pay it forward to you, even a little, then dirtying these wings was well worth it.’

It depends if you’re reading the fan translation or the official one.

The general speculation is that it’s Hawks’ inner monologue referred to Tokoyami.

Fan translation and official translation differ as in the fan translation Hawks is born with filthy wings, while in the official one he dirtied them. I prefer the fan translation because it would make sense Hawks would loathe his wings, which connect him to his father, a Villain, and call them filthy but also see them as what pushed him to connect with Tokoyami.

The official translation instead seems to imply Hawks is glad for the crimes he has committed because, although they dirtied his wings, they also allowed him to connect with Tokoyami.

I prefer to think Hawks isn’t glad for dirtying his wings but maybe that’s just me.

The chapter ends and as you can see I had next to nothing to say that’s positive about it.

It feels like nothing was accomplished, too much time was wasted on explanation and All for One felt even less threatening, which isn’t good.

Horikoshi had to previously take a break because he wasn’t well so the previous chapter and, especially, this one, might be under standards due to this. We’ll see.

#Boku no Hero Academia #BNHA spoilers #Utsushimi Camie #Shishikura Seiji #Yoarashi Inasa #All for One #BNHA Chapter Ramblings #Tokoyami Fumikage #Tsuchikawa Ryuko #Takami Keigo #Todoroki Enji #Todoroki Touya #Komori Kinoko #Nishiya Shinji #Uraraka Ochako #Jiro Kyoka

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