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#i’m rewatching part 1 with the dub and oh my god how i love this franchise. i love it so much
plankos · 1 year
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eileenguy · 2 years
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OH MY GOD PLEASE WATCH PUSHPA!! It’s so good that once the fam finished it we wanted to rewatch. I’m up at 4:30 am still thinking about it and how it relates to dta because I’m just like that now!! I’m here thinking about watching all the dubs so I don’t feel weird about watching a 3 hour movie multiple times. We watched it in Hindi but I gotta watch it in original Telugu. Plus, I wanna I listen to all the songs in different languages because the Hindi songs are SOOOOO GOOD!!  Srivalli (Hindi) is so fun to listen to and god the movie captures & balances all the emotions so perfectly. It’s about smuggling of red sandalwood trees and gangs etc but it’s character focused so you get very attached!!! Also, I’m glad this movie is in two parts!!! And part one had me going 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 because of religious symbolism even though it was through the movie!! Lastly but most importantly Allu Arjun looked so hot 🥵 and the character (Pushpa) just made me fall in love 🥰.
omg honestly south indian movies are the saving grace of mainstream indian cinema rn. just last year we had Sarpatta which was amazing and the way you've described Pushpa kind of reminds me of it: 1)almost three hours long 2)hot actors and 3)character driven. which is a shallow comparison now that i think abt it but n e ways; will watch, super excited <33
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tizzymcwizzy · 4 years
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Tizzy dissects Rogercop Part 1
Okay guess what y'all, I rewatched rogercop today and i have some tea. I’ll start by talking about Adrien in this episode,
First of all, fuck Gabriel Agreste
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LOOK AT HOW SAD HE IS IM HURT
Also, Plagg comforting him? Like, I've got tears in my eyes. Plagg and Adrien moments are to die for, they have such great chemistry. They both care for each other so much and I AAAAAHHH
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Omg look at Nino, what a bro, he stops recording so he can comfort his best friend, the sympathy in his eyes, I love their friendship, no matter how subtle it is. GIVE ME MORE OF THIS FRIENDSHIP ZAG.
Y'know the first time I watched this episode I was like, huh, Gabriel is kind of a jerk. But, like, busy parents and stuff it's normal. My mom never went to my parent day things cause she had work so I can relate, Adrien.
But guess what. Guess what this stupid motherfu-
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YOU-
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WITH HINDSIGHT I-
THIS GROWN MAN IS LITERALLY BROODING IN HIS ATTIC WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO AKUMATIZE AND THE CUT IS SO FAST ITS JUST LIKE,
Aah, Gabriel's a jerk poor Adrien to hOLY SHIT GABRIEL IS HAWKMOTH WHAT A MAJOR ASSHOLE
Am I right or am I right???
And guess what he says, guess what this little shit says in his evil monologue,
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"Parent-child relationships can be so complicated, and a perfect breeding ground for stress."
THIS-
THIS BITCH REALLY SAID THAT, I-
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
A PERFECT BREEDING GROUND FOR STRESS YOU SAY A PERFECT BREE-
SAY THAT TO YOUR SON WHO YOU BASEBALL-BATTED ACROSS PARIS SO YOU COULD AKUMATIZE HIM, BITCH.
In summary, I'm about to kick Gabriel Agreste's ass and y'all better not stop me.
In lighter news, Plagg is such a treat, listen to this,
"We've got a big problem here,"
"If by big you are referring to my rock hard abs, why thanks for noticing."
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PLAGG-
GGGFFNBBBSSH
HE'S SO STUPID I LOVE HIM.
Also, I checked, it's the basically the same in the French dub. What a king.
Okay, so you know how everyone says that Marinette is the problem solver and Adrien is just the brute force for the team, get ready to catch these hands,
Look at my boy problem solving when Plagg is being a stupid rascal, he's so smart and i-
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BOI WHY DO YOU HAVE A PEPPER SHAKER!??!?!!!
WHY????
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT??? DOES HE JUST HAVE THAT IN HIS BAG????? DID HE FIND THAT IN SOMEONE'S LOCKER?????? WHA-
An absolute madman oh my god.
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Anyway, look at him! He's so proud of himself! I'm proud of you too sweetie!! He figured it out on his own, even if I still don't understand why he has that in his bag.
Headcanon that Adrien doesn't know what normal people but in their backpacks so he deadass has a pepper shaker in there. Major bastard energy I tell you.
Part 2 Part 3
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unloved-cadillac · 3 years
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𝕬𝖙𝖙𝖆𝖈𝖐 𝕺𝖓 𝕿𝖎𝖙𝖆𝖓 𝖂𝖊𝖊𝖐𝖑𝖞 𝕯𝖚𝖇 𝖀𝖕𝖉𝖆𝖙𝖊: 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐅𝐢𝐯𝐞
What’s up everybody? Uh....Holy shit. This episode...let’s see.
1. Willy Tybur’s Speech.
Oh my god. Jason did an AMAZING JOB!!! I got goosebumps from just watching it. Everything for him was on point. I personally have read the manga and watched the sub, but I felt like I really connected with this episode today. The story telling and cinematography was hands down, amazing. R.I.P
2. The Mystery Soldier.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Do you guys like them? I’m not going to say anything on them since technically it is a massive spoiler. But ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Thats all I’m gonna say.
3. Pieck.
Mam, may I please hold your hand? She’s so precious. I really love her character even more because of her angelic voice.
4. THIS WHOLE SCENE.
May I just say, that I have rewatched it 4 times already and each time I shivered. That “until I killed my enemies” part and how his voice dropped. B r u h. And people still have the nerve of saying Dub sucks. My lord. Everything was on point and perfection. From his roar, to the animation. Just perfection.
𝐎𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐥𝐥:
One of the best episodes so far. I’m very excited for the next episode as well. But man if this shit wasn’t the king...From the animation, to the roar, to the dialogue. What did you think? When the sub came out, many complained about the OST and it sent one of the producers into depression. I don’t want any of that shit. I don’t support toxicity here.
If you want to keep up with this updates, follow this hashtag👉 #attack on titan weekly dub update OR #aot4dub. I will be updating it every week. Until next time.
-Caddy.
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basket-of-fruits · 3 years
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season 1 episode 12 rewatch here we go!
lol uo wearing a mask how relevent 
lol kyo and yuki’s ‘oh come on’ stare at shigure because they know he just wants to go to the high school to see girls lol
god i love hana, what a queen putting kyo in his place lol
kyo protecting space cadet tohru we love it. also those friggen useless dish rag boys saying they don’t like assertive girls lol.
kyo saying ‘you can space out all you want when i’m with you’ fuck that’s so SWEET
haru and momiji starting at school yessssss
ugh haru is the best, he’s like let boys wear whatever they want, yas honey
HARU T POSING FOR YUKI FUCK ME UP WE LOVE THAT SHIT
kyo and yuki need to get over their hyper masculine thoughts lol, momiji looks cute let him wear what he wants! but in yuki’s defense he comments on haru’s look to so i think he’s more reprimanding them for not wearing the exact dress code
THE BEST FRUITS BASKET SCENE OF ALL TIME HARU TAKING TAKEI TO THE BATHROOM TO PROVE HIS HAIR COLOR IS REAL ugh omg comedic gold
HARU CALLS HIM HUMAN TRASH 
haru petting momiji’s hat so cute
takei picturing yuki wearing a girl’s uniform poor yuki lol
haru’s lil face after he shows takei uh you know what lol he’s so proud
also kyo and yuki mirror each other so much in this episode
ooooh akito and tohru finally meet
so tohru says that akito is a pretty as yuki and i always wondered a little if that’s why takaya had yuki be so pretty, like one to have the fangirls and his princely persona but i wonder if in part it was to hint at akito being a woman?
ugh yuki is so terrified, this scene is actually so powerful, especially in the dub due to yuki’s voice actor. tohru knows this person is potentially dangerous but they also have been kind to her but she sees that she is making yuki terrified and just shoves them out of the way
ugh tohru is the sweetest, she just wants to see yuki happy
hana and uo shitting on kyo is the best thing i love it so much lol
ugh yuki’s monologue kills me, my boy deserves all the happy good things in the world and he’s finally getting to experience them
and haru worrying about yuki kills me, we all knew that already lol
this is one of my all time favorite episodes, its funny and light but dark and dramatic as well, v good. see you for the next one!
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duhragonball · 3 years
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I'd like to suggest Majin Buu for the character asks. He's a strange dude who stuck around longer then expected, so I'd imagine you have some mixed feelings on the character. I'd say any version of Buu applies, but thats up to you.
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Give me a character and I will answer:
Why I like them: Those who know me, know that I am all about that post-Frieza era of DBZ.  That’s why I want Hit to kill him again, because it did wonders for Z, and maybe it could improve Super II or whatever they end up calling it.   I’ve already discussed why I love Cell, but for me, the Buu Saga was not much of a step down.   I came out of the Cell Games wanting more, really craving an epilogue to show how everyone was getting along after Cell’s defeat.   And the Buu Saga gave me exactly that.   
The common criticism leveled against Buu is that he isn’t much on personality.  He doesn’t have the charisma of a Frieza or Buu, but I think that works in his favor, since it gives the good guys more time to work out all their issues.   A big part of the arc was about Goku and Vegeta getting on the same page, and it’s tough to make that happen when the bad guy has his own monologue.   I think that’s why you don’t see much of them together on Namek, or during the Androids crisis.   
I’ve seen Team Four Star compare Super Buu’s absorption forms to sort of a carbon copy of Perfect Cell.    I’m not sure I agree, but 1) I’m not sure that’s a bad thing, even if it’s true, and 2) If you don’t like Buuhan, don’t worry, because he doesn’t stay that way for very long.    Majin Buu has lots of variety, is my point.    No one’s going to love all of his different forms and appearances, but you’re probably going to find a few that appeal to you.    I had trouble picking a header image for this, because it feels like it does a disservice to the character.    He’s so many different things.   He can be cute and cuddly, or vicious and terrifying, or sassy and rude.  
I also like what he represents to the series as a whole.   When he was first introduced, Buu was presented as this instant “game over” for the universe.   If Babidi reawakens him, that’s it, we all lose.   No one can stop him.    But then he breaks out anyway, and the good guys still manage to rally.    He proves too powerful to defeat, but Goku comes up with a plan, and the Supreme Kai comes up with a plan, and the Old Kai comes up with a plan, and finally Vegeta comes up with a plan, and all of them are premised on the idea that maybe we’re not so doomed after all.    Maybe the Z-Fighters are strong enough to pull this off.   And they do pull it off, and somehow turn Buu good in the process.   There’s a very hopeful message in that.   
Why I don’t: Not gonna lie, I find it somewhat uncomfy that Fat Buu survives the conflict and just... stays that way.    I’m not talking about his appearance, mind you, I mean he still seems like the same guy who gouged out Dabura’s eyes, who creeped on that one lady, and seemed unable to stop eating.   
Let me put it like this: When I first watched the episodes where Mr. Satan befriends Buu, I wasn’t entirely surprised, but what worried me was that he cooked food for Buu, and then he’d immediately demand another meal.  The implication, for me anyway, was that maybe Buu couldn’t be reformed, and he would be compelled by an endless hunger to destroy everything in his sight, regardless of how he might have felt about it.  
In hindsight, I think the “can’t-stop-eating” bit was just intended to set up the emergence of Evil Buu.   Once he got that out of his system, he was fine, but it still bugged me, and even Vegeta was concerned about Buu making another Kid Buu someday.   Because no one really understood what Buu was or how he worked, so who’s to say that he could truly shake off the ways of evil?    Also, Fat Buu owes his existence to absorbing two of the ancient Supreme Kais, so it bothered me that they got everyone else de-absorbed but not them.  
But, I can’t say that bothers me too much, since the final episodes of DBZ show that he lived peacefully with Mr. Satan for at least a decade.  Even so, I wasn’t surprised to see Dragon Ball GT merge him with Uub.   I think the urge to write him out of the story was pretty strong.    Notice how Dragon Ball Super has Majin Buu, but they hardly ever use him.   It makes you wonder.
Favorite episode (scene if movie): You know, I think I might go with the one where the Supreme Kai explains Buu’s backstory to the Old Kai.   Pretty sure that one ends with Kid Buu blowing up the world, so it’s got a lot going for it. 
Favorite season/movie: The Fusion Saga is kind of my go-to answer for the best of Buu, but after I rewatched everything last year, I think the Kid Buu Saga make be the better arc.   It’s tough to decide.
Favorite line: When Goku and Vegeta power up on the Supreme Kai Planet to draw Buu’s attention, he senses their ki and grins, saying “Dum-dums!” like he’s so excited that they’re gonna try and fight him again.   That’s in the dub, anyway, but I always liked that this was Kid Buu’s pet name for those two idiots.
Favorite outfit: I don’t think I have a preference, but it might have been nice to see more of this version:
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OTP: I guess that female Buu he made so he could have children?   Honestly, the less I have to think about Buu being romantic the better I like it.  
Brotp: Gotta be Mr. Satan.
Head Canon: The Xenoverse games and Dragon Ball Online introduced this whole notion of Buu starting his own race of Majins on Earth.    I’ve been trying to figure out how to work with that in my fanfic, and the main thing that sticks out in my mind is that Buu is the progenitor of that entire population, and I’m pretty sure he’d still be alive at any given time, so it intrigues me that a Majin OC I might come up with could just stroll on over to Buu’s house and say hello.  But I’m not really sure what they’d talk about.  
Unpopular opinion: Killing him off was one of the few smart moves GT made, and providing a means for the absorbed Supreme Kai’s to escape was one of the few smart moves Toyotaro made.  
A wish: If they do another Tournament of Power, Buu should actually be in it.   He can absorb Frieza and that way they can get around the cap on team members. 
An oh-god-please-dont-ever-happen: If they do another big fight, for the love of crap, don’t just have him nap through it.   I just realized he probably slept through the Broly movie too.   Lazy bastard.
5 words to best describe them: That’s the tubby custard machine.
My nickname for them: “You r--” whoa ho-hoooo.   Just kidding.  
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bereft-of-frogs · 4 years
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aaaah you just finished Hannibal! can I ask what are some of the things you liked the most?
my god WHERE TO BEGIN??? (spoilers, obviously. should I tag spoilers? I know it’s been 5 years, but with the whole Netflix revival...)
- the aesthetics. it’s just. it’s so pretty. it’s so violent, but so so pretty. Bryan Fuller said in an interview that they were trying to create horror* that was so beautiful it was hard to look away from and they definitely nailed it. 
- specifically the season 1 aesthetics because y’all know I am folk horror trash 
- but I also love how each season evolved in the aesthetics. all three seasons had a specific and unique vibe and they stuck to it really well, to the point where the season 3 flashbacks felt separate from season 3, everything about them called back to season 1 as it resolved the Abigail Hobbs story line
- I also love how referential it is. the first episode of season 3 is just Deep Red and it’s fantastic how well they capture the mood of the gialli (with the wide shots and the academia sets, down to the soundtrack and the costuming...without me having to suffer through the whole dubbing thing). 
- I guess all of the above is I just love how intentional everything was about this series. You really got the sense that the people making it really had a vision and worked hard to keep true to that vision. 
- also, let’s be real, I’ve spend the last 5 years under the assumption that reports of ‘Hannigram’ have been greatly exaggerated because, well it’s tumblr and they tend to do that. I honestly didn’t even really believe Bryan Fuller. I watched Shudder’s Horror is Queer panel before I started season 3 and I was like, ‘naw it can’t have gotten that explicit’ but oh my god it did. I love love love it when creators embrace fan interpretation and I also love the tension of their relationship through that whole last season. 
- that whole last scene. and people say they never had sex... (insert a more cleverly phrased ‘you think sex is good, but have you ever murdered a serial killer in perfect sync and bathed in his blood in the moonlight and then cast yourselves into the tumultuous sea?)
- additionally, Alana Bloom’s whole season 3 arc is real fantastic, I love how dark her lipstick gets. (and she just gets to be powerful and haughty and have her child with her murder-wife and wear dark clothes and dark lipstick and she is so beautiful) 
- Lawrence Fishburne is a national treasure
(* In yet another episode of ‘men argue with me about horror’, a guy tried to claim that Hannibal wasn’t horror the other day and I really went through a 5 minute self-doubt spiral where I was like ‘oh god...is it not? is it not horror?’ and then I was like @ me: ‘fuck no, of course it is, you just watched Bryan Fuller talk about it on the ‘Horror is Queer’ panel and read a bunch of interviews that talk about how it is literally horror, and it’s super referential’ and that conversation was just another example of ‘white dudes just saying whatever and I feel the need to show up with a 5-paragraph essay with appropriate citations’.)
Anyways, I’m probably going to start rewatching soon because now that I have the whole narrative I want to soak up the aesthetics, this may have spawned an ill-advised creative venture on my part (that’s a wip right now, will let y’all know if it gets off the ground, don’t want to jinx it but I’m real excited about it right now), I can’t believe I’ve slept on this show for five years. What an excellent finale to my ‘cannibalism quarantine theme’. XD 
I’m sure I’ll have more thoughts but. Anyway. It’s just real pretty. <3 
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mysterylover123 · 5 years
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BNHA Rewatch: Episode 61 “Deku vs Kacchan Part 2″
 mysterylover123
O.T.P.
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This is gonna get kinda emotional.
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Deku is turning Kacchan’s fight proposal down. Dammit Deku! He’s being serious!
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Hoo boy that Kacchan face. No light in his eyes. That realization, just…just bleeding through…hoo boy.
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“If the way you admired him was correct, does that mean my way of thinking was wrong?” OMG ITS HAPPENING. HE’S REALIZING IT YA’LL.
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The flashbacks to bb Deku and Kacchan the feels.
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The white void, it’s just the two of them. 
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That Deku line from the first episode. I’m transported right back, ya’ll. It’s that first love again, that same feeling I had when I first discovered this series all the way back in summer of last year.
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So Deku starts by thinking too hard about what’s going on and immediately gets blasted.
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“You think too much” hoo boy recently Mother’s Basement posted the analysis of this fight and pointed out that this is actually a flaw of Deku’s that he can learn to remedy by adopting some of Kacchan’s impulsiveness. Never has the phrase “you complete me” been more accurate.
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This freaking animation. It’s so beautiful. OMG.
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“Wait for me” OH MAN BB DEKU BB KACCHAN RUNNING I’M DEAD I AM DYING
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Cause he loves ya you dope.
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Cute overload
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WHY WHY WHY hoo boy Kacchan flashbacks.
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Dat little trip oh man. He’s so bummed Deku doesn’t wanna fight and Deku’s little kick actually knocked him down.
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Ooh boy. Here it comes. The music went out
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Hold his freaking hand some day dammit
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Oh god I can’t watch this again I can’t I can’t
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“why is to you became strong…while I - “ OH GOD HERE IT COMES HERE IT COMES
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OH GOD. Slow clap. Okamoto and Chapin both deserve freaking awards for that performance. I mean holy shit. That voice acting. Those cracks. That hit. It makes me cry. I’m tearing up right now. Cause you see, this whole episode, it really rests on the ability of Bakugou’s Seiyuu and VA to pour everything into the performance. It’s not going to hit without both of them giving the vocal acting performance of a lifetime, and they both knocked it out of the freaking park. I actually love them both as his voice; I don’t have a preference for dub over sub, as regards their performances (not the dialogue translations), because both are incredible. Just. Slow clap. All of the awards, please.
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Look at how Deku looks at him. He’s the best. He just…he cares, so much. I mean, you’d admittedly have to be a pretty heartless bastard not to feel a little compassionate after hearing that speech but still. Kacchan’s so fucking lucky he has Deku and he doesn’t even know it. I want one too.
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He’s crying. Me too.
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Kacchan no Kacchan no nononononono 
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Oh god Deku you beautiful darling
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“may not be any meaning” I DISAGREE THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF AN ENTIRE SERIES’ WORTH OF 100+ SYMBOLIC CHAPTERS DETAILING YOUR GROWTH FROM ANGRY YELLING RIVALS TO RIVALS WHO SUPPORT EACH OTHER DAMMIT IT’S EVERYTHING
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“May not be any meaning in winning or losing” lol are you just saying that in hindsight, Future Deku, cause you know you lost?
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Deku didn’t have to do this. He didn’t have to fight Kacchan or even let him know the truth.
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And note, he didn’t accept until he realized there was someone he could save. Someone who needs saving, to be helped. And this is how to help him.
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“The only one who can accept his feelings is me.” Ya’ll heard that haters? Say it a little louder for the people in the back, Deku. He’s got his heart.
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And look who’s smiling again, eyes lighting up again, the minute Deku started fighting back?
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“I couldn’t just completely reject him” Guess who also sad that about their fiery spiky blond spouse in BNHA? Kacchan’s dad in that omake about their marriage.
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Their relationship was wrong, but now it’s right. 
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They never talked about how they really felt. Communication is the cornerstone of a healthy relationship, folks. Go on. Talk about your feels. Your real feelings.
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Of that was one hell of a hit.
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That speedy recovery though. Deku is fast. 
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Oh wow Kacchan hit it too
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That smile. That smile OMG that is THE HOTTEST, by far, that Deku has ever looked in animation. And I don’t say that lightly.
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The translation here is either “I’ve” or “you’ve” gotten stronger. Both fit fine, which is the crazy part. Deku could be either saying that he himself has improved, or complimenting Bakugou, which does admittedly make more sense with what he was saying before, while ‘I’ve’ fits his cocky grin here better. I want him to flash a cocky grin more. It suits him. (BTW The English Dub compromises between the two and says’ we’ve both’.
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Katsuki assumes Deku has a plan. Always overestimating him.
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“That’s what I hate about you” OMG HE FINALLY TELLS HIM HOW HE FEELS. “I can never tell what you’re thinking” Because ya know he’s so good at understanding how everyone else thinks and feels.
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He’s always being mean to Deku. Deku has seen him at his very worst and yet still admires him. Maybe that’s scary, you know? Unconditional love is…kinda terrifying. But so, so beautiful. So he has to rationalize it that Deku is just looking down on him.
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Wow Deku sure took you long enough! He’s been saying that since day 1!
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“I wouldn’t want anything to do with them anymore” Deku there you go being empathetic and wonderful and perfect again. So understanding you darling, darling boy.
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 “Along with the parts I hated about you, I saw all the amazing things you could do.” THAT’S ADMIRATION, FOLKS. ADMIRATION WITHOUT IDOLIZATION. Without hero-worship. Acknowledging the good and the bad. Seeing a person for who they really are and always, always seeing the best of them, even at their worst.
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“MUCH CLOSER TO ME THAN ALL MIGHT” Do you hear him guys? The closest person to him, closer than All Might. Closer than his freaking #1 favorite hero. The dub version has “actually in my life”, which isn’t a bad idea either. Both are true. That is so powerful. The person who
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Oh yeah and again how does Deku advance in power? How does he Go Beyond? KACCHAN. Full cowling, he found from him. OFA itself, he gained by saving him. And 8%.
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THAT SMILE. “I thought you were amazing.” He loves you you idiot. 
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He kept chasing after him. He’ll never stop. He won’t just give up.
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He passed him. And Bakugo looks happy. Possibly because he wants Deku to do better. Possibly because it seems to be confirming his might-makes-right theory. Possibly both.
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ANIMATION-GASM AGAIN. 
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AHAHAHAHAHAH ITS THAT CUT ITS THAT CUT DEKU’S DANCING FEET
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THE VOID AROUND THEM IT’S JUST YOU AND ME 
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AND THE BLOCK OMG THIS IS BEAUTIFUL THIS IS THE MOST FREAKING BEAUTIFUL ANIMATION IVE EVER SEEN
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I’m serious. They brought out all the stops for this one. Of course. they knew, they had to know, that this was it. The animation, too, had to be perfect, or else it wasn’t gonna come across. And it is. Even better, in my opinion, than the animation in the stuff that came before it. Bones you are incredible. 
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Higher gear. Can anyone doubt that Katsuki is important to Deku’s journey after this?
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“This is gross, so I can’t say it”.. “I love you?” A reactor I follow actually said that after that line. That’s how intense they are.
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Anyway IMAGE OF VICTORY SPEECH. The Ep that keeps on giving. 
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Kacchan is his image of victory. The other side of him. And he adopts some of his traits.
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“The part of you I hate and yet” How much love can you have for a person when you can somehow still admire the darkest, meanest parts of them? I don’t have a very perfect definition of love but I think that’s probably a big part of it.
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“my image of victory is of you” feels overload. Feels O.D. 
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dat crane shot.
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My one disappointment with this episode is that they used the US of Smash OST instead of the Katsuki and Izuku OST for this scene. CMON GUYS. SERIOUSLY. THE KATSUKI AND IZUKU THEME HAD TO HAVE BEEN WRITTEN FOR THIS EPISODE AND THIS MOMENT ALONE. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING. 
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“I have to beat you” the music the feels omg
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Hahaha psych. Kacchan wins anyway. 
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WOOF. Like OK this is in the manga, this positioning, but it’s only for one frame. In the anime it goes on for like, an uncomfortably long time, with the slow panting, and the close-ups on the twisting body parts, and…combined with the fact that all of Deku’s admiring girlfriends in this arc have also landed on top of him in a similar pose, and you can’t blame me for the fact that my mind went into rather…R-rated territory. 
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Kacchan’s disappointed. He didn’t want Deku to lose. He wanted Deku to win.
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That breaking  voice again. Don’t make me cry more dammit it’s too late.
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ALL MIGHT! I need an MST3K style All Might commentary-reaction to this entire damn thing. Seriously Hori. If you ever do an extra, please make one that’s a serious of All Might panel reacting to this whole thing. I NEED THAT. 
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Finishing each other’s sentences again.
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“It’s too late” IT’S NEVER TOO LATE YOU CYNICAL PORCUPINE.
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This is such a great moment of catharsis. Why Deku indeed? Well, you’re about to learn.
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THAT LINE DELIVERY AGAIN. That Broken voice. Both voice actors are too good.
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Deku’s legs though. WOWSA. A little detail I’ve noticed is that Kacchan has really buff, sexy arms and Deku has really buff, sexy legs. Because those are the body parts they use, while the reverse parts are more average.
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“I’m weak too” You’re making me weak I can’t take it. His voice his voice that fucking voice
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DEKU’S EYES. THEY’RE WELLING. 
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HE’S GONNA CRY TOO.
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I also need an All Might in my life. I kinda blame myself all the time for things outside of my control. Deku AND Kacchan both blamed themselves for what happened. For All Might’s end. And neither one was really responsible, but they’re just like that. I relate, painfully, to both of them. I have a Deku side and a Bakugo side - deep down, I think we all do. Maybe one more than the other, but that’s what you get when you create two characters who initially act as kind of…distilled embodiments of two sides of the super-hero coin. One all super with no hero, the other all hero with no super - at least, at the beginning.
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THAT PIANO MUSIC IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR. IT’S ALL MIGHT’S FREAKING THEME YA’LL!
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Ooh boy All Might’s BKDK Speech! Both of their teachers ship them, you guys. All Might AND Aizawa both give big, beautiful speeches about their compatibility. In case you somehow missed it. 
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Being fixated on victory like you, young Bakugou…and wanting to save those in trouble, like you, young Midoriya…both of those feelings are necessary.” “You guys are perfect for each other”, says the reactor I mentioned earlier (who isn’t even a hardcore BKDK shipper, mind you, it’s just that it’s that obvious.) And it’s true. You need both. They want each other, they need each other, because they have what the other lacks. They complete each other.  
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This is the shonen rival equivalent of having the couple in a rom-com confess at the end of act one instead of act three. It upsets all the cliches and is all the better for it. Though even the most hardcore, dedicated anime rivals, I don’t think have ever gone this married-couple with the ‘mutual respect’ and ‘making each other stronger’ thing.
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WIN AND SAVE SAVE TO WIN. They look each other in the eyes.
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Oh god not that voice again I’m dying. Don’t make me cry again Kacchan.  
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“Don’t lose.” SUPPORTIVE KACCHAN I LOVE SUPPORTIVE KACCHAN.
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“I’ll get stronger” CONFIDENT DEKU I LOVE CONFIDENT DEKU. 
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“Of the students only you.” ONLY YOU. 
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I put this moment really high on my list of Kacchan’s nicest moments, because it means a lot to me and to All Might. All Might acknowledges it. He’s a good secret keeper.
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Oh and Deku thanks him too in the English Dub, BTW. Not the manga but nice dub touch. 
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OMG he’s such a Tsundere.
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He told him everything. HE KNOWS. The only one who knows. None of Deku’s other love interests do. And he has no interest in telling them. 
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Kacchan asks why he told him. And I’ve got an answer, after obsessively rereading Chapter 11/rewatching Episode 8 a lot: BECAUSE HE LOVES YOU, YOU IDIOT. You were mad at him for lying about his quirk to you. You asked what was going on (loudly). You accused him of lying to you your whole life. So he told you the truth. Because he can lie to his mom, and he can lie to his friends and teachers and the entire freaking world. But he cannot lie to YOU. Because he loves you. Idiot baka. 
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Oh and what’s that music playing there? Why does that sound familiar? YOU SAY RUN YOU SAY RUN YOU SAY RUN IT’S BACK. And you know? That’s I think because YSR symbolizes Deku’s heroic inspiration. The inspiration he both takes in and gives to others. And here, he’s both being inspired by Kacchan, and inspiring him at the same  time.
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Now Kacchan is doing the same. “Chosen one” He knows. Deku is better. He’s gotta surpass him.
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LOL THIS IS FUNNY. THEY SURE BICKER LIKE THEY’RE MARRIED.
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This shot composition. Get it? ALL MIGHT’S THE THING BETWEEN ‘EM.
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Oh and this. Yay some character development from Kacchan! Another nice moment of his in this ep. Three times! 
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All Might Meta’s a bit about how Kacchan took responsibility and felt bad and does a Mom guilt trip on Dadzawa. They’re getting to be kinda married too now.  
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“I went in pretty HARD”. OMG stop it you’re making me think bad things again. Just F*CK already.
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Their first act as a married couple is to clean the house together. OMG domestic fluff. 
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And now for the best Post-credits scene ever. 
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Wow Uraraka ships it so bad. 
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Oh and some Todobaku bonus! Aw I guess Bakugou just turned down his 3some offer. 
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Ooh awkward silence. 
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YAY! Though they did kinda wreck it by having Deku bring it up instead of Kacchan 
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NOW THEY’RE HEALTHY ENOUGH TO TALK TO EACH OTHER LIKE HUMAN BEINGS.
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Kacchan just praised me. Life is good.
Episode 61 is my favorite episode of my favorite show. I think it’s the best and will never be topped. Feels, left and right. It’s really just perfect. Funny, all 3 of the transcendent, best-of-the-best BNHA eps (This, 49 and 23) are basically just two characters fighting for 20 minutes. Nothing more or less. Yet they’re all so, so good. And this one is…I don’t even know how to put it into words. It’s a phenomenal tour-de-force of acting, visuals, animation, music, and of course, writing, all combining together to be just absolutely unsurpassable. Everything that makes this series good, boiled down to it’s essence. And yes, this did seal the deal for me with BKDK. I liked it before, but this made it a done deal. No going back. And I love it.
BEST GIRL OF THE EP: Uraraka for being so supportive.
RANKER: Top 5 Best Moments of This Episode: (it’s really more like a top 50)
5. Deku’s little Dance number
4. True Rivals at Last
3. True feelings at last
2. The Image of Victory Speech
1. “Why did I become...”
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40 Questions — Meme for Fic Writers
Don’t you sometimes see those ask games and wish you could just fkg do them all? On this sunny Saturday, we make our dreams reality lolol
1.  Describe your comfort zone—a typical you-fic.
Short fic, I usually get a small scene I want written so I write around it, plus I love short stories with interesting punchline.
2.  Is there a trope you’ve yet to try your hand at, but really want to?
Probably, I don’t know them all ^^’
3.  Is there a trope you wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole?
Writing about stuff that disgust me I guess.
4.  How many fic ideas are you nurturing right now? Care to share one of them?
Like 5-6? I want to write about a restaurant but set in a world where people have powers I think the combo could be very funny. The main character has the power of insight, the plonge is a giant pool where you swim around cleaning. Backstories of characters with shitty and amazing powers and how they ended up here. Rival to lover character that has the power to see into the future.
5. Share one of your strengths.
Dialogues, subversion, and humor; classmates often said I have a touch to spin a sad story into something positive/happier.
6.  Share one of your weaknesses?
I get tired when I describe something for longer than 4 sentences.
7.  Share a snippet from one of your favorite pieces of prose you’ve written and explain why you’re proud of it.
“In what kind of trouble have we walked right into?”, I ask my companions as they’re idly fixing their attire. Together, we’ve face many perils and this mission ranks among one of the most dangerous. Yet, the others had been…how should I say it…professional! Rescuing kidnapped princesses, vanquishing terrifying monsters, quests to restore mythical artifacts, save nations from insidious plots. Oddly enough, “Does this dress make me look fat?”, is not the answer I’m looking for.
Ribbon in my hair is the first time I wrote about my knights, I first dreamt about them when I as 18, my boyfriend at the time called my idea stupid and my world building pointless so I only started writing about them when I was 21. Now I write about them a little bit every year :)
8. Share a snippet from one of your favorite dialogue scenes you’ve written and explain why you’re proud of it.
“Do you really want your last words to be complaints?”
“I die as I lived.”
“Will we become a fruit tree?”
“I don’t think so, it’s never been the case for my ancestors.”
“I’d love it if we could turn into a banana tree.”
“I’m not from the southern regions, plus I like apples more.”
“Just imagine, our fruits could have been banana flambée”
This death scene was a big finale to a story I wrote for a class in Uni, a story of war between clan of forest and volcano people, of the supposedly brutal death of a Goddess, of a mysterious apple tree whose fruit give vision of the past. I should revisit it.
9.  Which fic as been the hardest to write?
My analysis on D’Artagnan and the figure of the hero. Granted it’s an essay for school but I deeply loved it. I was too afraid to write or ask for help from the professor in charge of me (which made our relationship tense ^^’) but when I did, it was beautiful and I was very proud got 89% :D
10.  Which fic has been the easiest to write?
A play called Adelaide where an old couple reads their old fairytale book about a Prince on a quest to save a Princess. They bicker about the other misreading the story but we finally get to the part where the Prince tosses the princess apart to get a better view of the dragon of which he falls instantly in love. The book is actually their wedding album.
11.  Is writing your passion or just a fun hobby?
It’s one of my passions, but it’s not something I think I could live on so I delegated it to my hobby.
12.  Is there an episode above all others that inspires you just a little bit more?
The wedding scene in Shrek 2, my mind was blown when I saw it in theaters and when I need inspiration to write, I rewatch it.
13.  What’s the best writing advice you’ve ever come across?
Presentation is important. If trying to read you gives people headaches, they’ll stop. Choose a nice big font, space with paragraphs, be mindful of your spelling and missing words. Read out loud because some things written are bad said.
14.  What’s the worst writing advice you’ve ever come across?
I must’ve been lucky in this regard, I don’t think I’ve ever received advice that made me go NO, but I did have to listen/read stuff that made me gag.
15.  If you could choose one of your fics to be filmed, which would you choose?
I would love to the Adelaide acted out, some adjustments would be required because I’m no expert in play writing but I think I’d be great.
16.  If you only could write one pairing for the rest of your life, which pairing would it be?
Luyenor’a and Taram, names are placeholders as of now but they’re two of my knight, being the “only pairing I’m allow to write about forever” means I’d get more knight shenanigans done.
17.  Do you write your story from start to finish, or do you write the scenes out of order?
I’m doing bullets point of what I want to happen and write stuff without much order. Some days I have no inspirations for what goes in the beginning but have loads for a later point. I surf the wave when it presents itself.
18.  Do you use any tools, like worksheets or outlines?
Word on my computer, a notebook in my bag, the note app in my phone.
19. Stephen King once said that his muse is a man who lives in the basement. Do you have a muse?
I have little trinkets all around my computer to invite inspiration.
20. Describe your perfect writing conditions.
Freshly woken up, having eaten, drinking something sugary and sometimes apple cider because the alcohol help lower my inhibition.
21.  How many times do you usually revise your fic/chapter before posting?
I read out loud at least once the whole thing, helps with missing words but dude I reread my stuff on ao3 and always find mistakes still ^^’
22. Choose a passage from one of your earlier fics and edit it into your current writing style. (Person sending the ask is free to make suggestions).
I’m not going to put here because it’s in French and I don’t want to translate now but I wrote Vision of a world, mine when I was 16 and damn was I already depressed then?
23.  If you were to revise one of your older fics from start to finish, which would it be and why?
The Princess and the Soldier, some gay fairytale I think my first one, I’m sure I can do better bow
I also have one about a janitor and it’s a murder mystery I could redo
24. Have you ever deleted one of your published fics?
Once by accident, I was so angry I never rewrote it.
25.  What do you look for in a beta?
I don’t really use beta (beta reader right?) but I guess I’ve had like 3-4 when I was in Uni and had to read people’s wip and they read mine. They’d talk about what they liked, links they noticed, things that seemed weak or to change
26.  Do you beta yourself? If so, what kind of beta are you?
I usually just point out the stuff I like
27.  How do you feel about collaborations?
For a class in college, we had to act out a play we wrote collectively. Ten sketches written in pairs/alone. I made sure I was alone so I wouldn’t be saddled with someone else to write my sketch
28. Share three of your favorite fic writers and why you like them so much.
I don’t follow fic writers; I just am in a mood for a ship and read what’s available. I do like my friend @alumort ‘s fics tho ^^
29.  If you could write the sequel (or prequel) to any fic out there not written by yourself, which would you choose?
There was a Phineas and Ferb fic focused on Perry I really loved. Their world building was something I’d never seen and they abandoned the story, so I did fanfic of a fic. Never dared to post it anywhere I mean it was their world to begin with.
30.  Do you accept prompts?
Of course, when inspiration is given I accept
31.  Do you take liberties with canon or are you very strict about your fic being canon compliant?
I don’t care about canon but I do love using it when there are little trivia to enrich the character.
32.  How do you feel about smut?
Love to read it sometimes, would love to write it. Some I’m like………….youveneverhadsexhaveyou…………………
33.  How do you feel about crack?
Love it!!!!!!!! I’m too self-conscious to write it tho. Oh maybe that could be a never before written trope I could try?
34.  What are your thoughts on non-con and dub-con?
Rape I can’t, dub-con where underlying requited feelings exist but anxiety™ don’t let the characters express them but they’re drunk so it surfaces is okay
35.  Would you ever kill off a canon character?
Hell yeah! I do when/if the death makes sense (I am still pissed at Kishi for Neji)
36.  Which is your favorite site to post fic?
Ao3 is where I post,I used devianart when I had one
37.  Talk about your current wips.
Marry Me for the Love of Cake: God I’m so sorry to the few people who followed it, I said I’d pick it up before the end of 2019 and well……I have the ending in bullet points
Yours, with Love: I hope I’ll finish it…I have most of the ending in bullet points
I guess I’m into rom com at the moment lolol
38.  Talk about a review that made your day.
I made my best friend read All this for a Roll Cake, and she laughed so much at my work, I took a picture I look at from time to time to remain humble.
39.  Do you ever get rude reviews and how do you deal with them?
Thankfully I’ve never received a rude review. My professor once told me it seemed kinda unnatural how unlucky my protagonist was vs. how lucky his love interest was (All this for a Roll Cake) but that was the whole point of the story so I just ignored her.
40.  Write an alternative ending to [insert fic title] (or just the summary of one).
Writing this I realised I lost my final version of All this for a Roll Cake T^T so I guess I’d rewrite the ending I have of the before the last version I still have.
Well this was fun ^^ got to revisit my works and remember many beloved pieces of fiction I wrote, I look forward to my next projects
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For the writer asks: 1, 7, 20, 29, 32, 34, 37
20, 37, 29 already answered! Here.
1. Describe your comfort zone---a typical you-fic. 
A fic that has the barest minium of a plot and not a lot of moving around---terrible at keeping track of that stuff---Canon prefferably, since i know it the most, or an AU world where I’m familar with, no research to be needed. Fics that don’t require much planning since that’s not...my strong point. I tend to waffle and have so many options that. Drive me mad. So yeah. 
Simply plot and less moving makes easy to write, since I don’t really care about the plot but characters interactions and exploring tropes like found family, for example and getting into the head of characters. 
7. Share a snippet from one of your favourite pieces of prose you’ve written and explain why you’re proud of it. 
She came here to find traces of her family. Instead, Hayley managed to create one. It’s a surreal, far away thing to imagine. A fragile, very small creature growing inside of her. She palms her hand over her stomach, to see if she could feel it. She can’t. Elijah said he could hear it’s heartbeat. Hayley’s envious. She feels nothing. 
Maybe that’s why she thought that taking a sip of wolfsbane would be easy.
Okay, so. I was rewatching season 1, got hit by words and started to write...didn’t really where I was going with this. It was my first time writing a Hayley POV without reading any fics to use as a reference...and I think I caught her voice here really well. Which was a surprise. Also, I just love how it flows. It’s just so good?? Lol, I know I’m gushing over my own words but. I’m proud of it. 
Pearing into Hayley’s mind in season one was fun, she mostly spends her time in the house, stuck. Linked to a witch that had control over her life and apparently the “good brother” Elijah who she foolishly trusted, brought by his words of family...is gone. Her life is the hands of Klaus Mikaelson that is unpreditable. I was thinking that... maybe since she couldn’t feel this child and also, with the whole mess of her parents... this situation was going well for her and she thought...perhaps, that her child would be better off dead? Also: another though, the diaries (?) of Elijah she read, there was some stuff in there about their family that she thought that getting tangled with the Mikaelsons was...going to go bad for her? Idk. It’s mostly half-baked thoughts here, but so interesting to think of. 
And im just so proud that I mangaged to put some of them into words. 
29.  If you could write the sequel (or prequel) to any fic out there not written by yourself, which would you choose?
Already answered, but there’s a lot of fics, so. Another one would be one of yours, actually. There’s a lot of fics i would love to write a sequel to, lol, but if i had to choose one...
Entre Tus Alas. Which is a fabulous au, trying to think of Elijah and Rebekah living in the aftermath, OH that would be so interesting to explore and write about. No to mention the trail? Will they manage to get Niklaus out of Jail by using the Defence card...Or will they find out that Rebekah did it, somehow?? SO MANY POSSIBILTIES AND ALL OF THEM ARE SO INTERESTING. 
...And also a prequel. A from Rebekah who kills their Father?? What makes her snap. And that moment that Niklaus makes that decision to make it look like he killed Mikael. OR. A further one of when Elijah leaves. OR. A one where Elijah is where he went to and calls his siblings...about how much they miss him...just a Niklaus who had to learn to live with in the home with Elijah and..hearing his voice for the first time since he was gone. 
*SIGH* Damn. Now I am thinking of AU where they run away... 
Someone, stop my mind. urgh. 
32. How do you feel about smut?
I read a lot of smut fics, so. I do love them obviously, lol.
Thing is....I can’t read F/M or F/F ones. Implied is fine, just not the explicit ones. I just skip that part. And there are some ships that I can’t handle smuts for unless they are done in a particular way....like Sam/Cas and Dean/Benny to think of at the top of my head.
I am all about First Time!! First time smuts fics are my fave. Also I like to read smut that has personality, with the characters’ acting like you know themselves. Not generic smut where you slap characters in it and it feels like I am reading totally different characters, lol.
Also! Emotional! Smuts!! They are my absolute fave. Like I-haven’t-see-you-for-long-time or you-got-hurt-and-I-wasn’t-there. Soft, gentle ones and erm, desperate, heated ones ;) Give me all the ranges of emotions, I love them.
34. What are your thoughts on non-con and dub-con?
Okay, so. I hated them before. Now? Not so much. It depends on what are the dub-con & non-con are and the characters that are involved.
Like I really hate and can’t stomach the ones where it’s treated and showed like it’s a normal thing??? And totally romantic because it’s not. Sometimes Fic writers just brush it off and it’s something normal and not a big thing in situations that it is.
(I’m talking about S*mifer and L*cifer/K*lly. But honestly, any other ship and characters work)
I don’t go head on into fics like these. Or look for them....since I don’t like how most of people handle them. I’m picky when it come it. Dub-con and Non-con could be interesting to read when they are done right.
Like actually there’s this fic that I ABOSOLUTELY love that has it, so hesitant to start it but omg, they do it so well. It’s a multi-chaptered merlin fic that’s still on going but...
if you wanted to read it....
It’s Do You Feel Like a Young God? by onceandfuturewarlock
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[TRANSCRIPT] Episode 0: The Anime They Once Saw (Or Didn’t See)
Kat  0:00  
Hello and welcome to the Untitled Tallgeese Podcast, a podcast where four of us will watch Gundam Wing and then tell you all about Gundam Wing. My name is Kat, I write about comics on the internet, and I will be your episode moderator for today.
Mallory  0:17  
And I'm Mallory, and I also write about comics. 
Cathy  0:20  
I'm Cathy, I don't write about comics. I am actually a lawyer, which sucks.
All  0:26  
[laughter]
Caitlin  0:28  
I am Caitlin. I'm a PhD researcher in Tokyo right now working on Japanese film. Yeah. 
Kat  0:33  
Extremely legit. 
Caitlin  0:35  
Are we? 
Cathy  0:36  
and we're all here to talk about the Gundam Wing.
Kat  0:38  
[crosstalk] I mean we might be.
Kat  0:41  
We are here to talk about Gundam Wing, the maybe not critically acclaimed, but fandom, okay, audience favorite anime  that was released in 1995 in Japan and then made its way to the US in March 2000 on Toonami. So, we're going to talk about our fandom history and our history with the show Gundam Wing and I guess I will kick that off. So I-- I grew up watching anime because my dad is a huge nerd. So we were obviously watching Toonami. And the promos blew my mind. My friends and I all got really into it in middle school. Then we discovered fanfiction and we started with Heero/Relena fan fiction. [Caitlin: Ugh.] And then then we realized people could be gay. 
Caitlin  1:29  
Uugh, thank god.
Kat  1:30  
That opened up like, I know it was like the clouds parted. rainbows fell from the sky. We were like, Oh, wow.
Mallory  1:39  
[singing] "A whole new world"
Kat  1:40  
[laughter] And then I don't know. I wrote a lot of fanfiction posted it on FF dotnet, got into fandom and then stayed in fandom. So, Mallory?
Mallory  1:53  
I didn't have cable growing up. So whatever anime exposure I got was like, whatever was on Saturday morning cartoons. So Digimon was my first fandom and I was really into that. 
Kat  2:08  
Hell yeah 
Mallory  2:09  
And that sort of like bled into Gundam Wing somehow, I don't really remember how. But I found my way to Gundam Wing, read a lot of fanfic, hadn't ever really watched the show. And then in high school, my friend had some like random episodes from the first season question mark. I have no idea. So I watched those, and really enjoyed that? But I have no idea what their context was, so I'm coming at this pretty, pretty new.
Cathy  2:44  
So you have never watched it from beginning to end?
Mallory  2:47  
No. 
Cathy  2:47  
Got it. This will be fun. 
Mallory  2:50  
I'm expecting to be really disapproving of all the adults in the room. I find that like, now that I'm watching anime about kids, I'm really protective of these kids like, "Hey, this is really unethical!"
Cathy  3:02  
So I'm like Kat, I started watching anime when I was I think around Middle School. I had a friend who got me into Sailor Moon, then I think it was Dragon Ball that was on Toonami at the time? I can't really remember the chronology. 
Kat  3:16  
Yeah. 
Cathy  3:17  
But then they did the promos for Gundam Wing, so then I started watching that on Toonami. And it was my first mecha series. And my first Gundam series, I think it's a lot of people's first Gundam series in the United States. 
Cathy  3:31  
I have attempted to do similar projects to this multiple times where I go back and I rewatch, and I haven't really had the opportunity to actually finish those rewatches. But my memory of it is still kind of stuck of when I was in middle school slash high school. I did get into fandom, so I expect to remember a lot of inaccuracies about what happened. [laughter] Because a lot of what my facts have with this series are have now mutated and changed. But I was a huge Gundam Wing fan, I think it still remains my favorite of the Gundam series just because I have so many memories of it? But I really excited to talk to Mallory, about what you feel and your experiences because it's been so long since I've talked to somebody who actually has never seen the series and doesn't know the story. So I'm super excited about this.
Caitlin  4:24  
Yeah!
Cathy  4:25  
All right, Cait, tell us about your family history.
Caitlin  4:27  
Yeah, so similar to all of us, I guess, I watched anime growing up. I got into Sailor Moon sort of through an accident of just happening to see a very specific episode on Toonami in like 1999, 1998 maybe. So after that, I got really into anime and really into the internet. I think I was very depressed as a child. [laughter] So I spend a lot of time online. I believe that like my my first memories of Gundam Wing are when it was on Toonami: Sailor Moon was on first and then Dragon Ball Dragon Ball Z, and then Gundam Wing. And then they also were showing like the quote unquote unedited versions late 
Cathy  5:09  
Yes!
Kat  5:09  
Yes, the midnight run 
Cathy  5:11  
The midnight run Right. 
Cathy  5:12  
Yeah. So very specific memories of like, I think I was mainly attracted to the, like, team format of Gundam if that makes sense? [Cathy: Yeah yeah yeah!] where it was used to sailor Sailor Moon where you have a team of color coded characters. And I'd, at a younger age been really into Power Rangers, where you had a team of color coded characters. So the marketing of Gundam Wing really appealed. You know, cuz I was just a kid watching on TV, I never really, I don't know if I watched the whole thing as a kid, but I got really into the fandom. And by 2000, 2001, I already knew about gay stuff online.
Kat  5:48  
Wow. Look at you early bloomer.
Caitlin  5:50  
Yeah. So So I got really into the various Gundam Wing pairings, I think it was mainly, I was mainly a 3x4, I think as a child. I went through some, 1x2, and then 2x5 phases. [laughter]
Caitlin  6:09  
I still am a big advocate for 2x5, I think it's underrated.
Kat  6:12  
I'm a big 2x5. 
Cathy  6:13  
2x5 is a good pairing, it definitely is. 
Kat  6:16  
Yeah.
Cathy  6:16  
It's a better pairing as an adult. 
Kat  6:17  
So okay, I think that's actually a pretty good bounce off. So these are the things we remember about Gundam Wing. It was marketed, like, I remember the Toonami marketing 'cause I was really hype for this show. They had like these really extreme commercials. 
Caitlin  6:34  
Yeah. 
Kat  6:35  
Um, and I thought the voice acting was good. I don't know, maybe we'll revisit that during this watch, to see if it still is, 
Caitlin  6:43  
[crosstalk] Was it dubbed?, 
Cathy  6:44  
[crosstalk] It was dubbed, yes.
Kat  6:44  
But I was ready for it. It was dubbed. 
Caitlin  6:46  
It was dubbed. One thing with the with the Japanese voice acting though, is that it's every single famous voice actor from the 90s. And so you can, you can use Gundam Wing is like a six degrees of every single voice actor from the 1990s. 
Caitlin  6:59  
Oh, that's cool.
Mallory  7:00  
I mean, there are a lot of big American or like, dub dub names on the dub side, too.
Cathy  7:06  
One of the things that I remember very strongly about Toonami is that they had what I think we would now call anime music videos, AMVs. 
Kat  7:16  
Yeah 
Cathy  7:17  
But they would play
Caitlin  7:18  
Yeah, 
Cathy  7:18  
These montage trailers, where they'd stich together all their different series. And as they accumulated more anime series, these became really, I think, cinematic and gripping tales, where they would kind of try to tell a story to be about, like bravery or honor or like, 
Kat  7:36  
It's like, plugged directly into my little 11 year old brain like, Whoa,
Cathy  7:40  
Yes. And one of them was, I remember was called, like, "technological development" or something like that, that featured a lot of the Gundam Wing clips. 
Kat  7:47  
Oh, yeah, cuz you only download them from like, KaZaa,  or whatever horrible thing I was putting into my computer. 
Caitlin  7:52  
Yeah. We gotta see if we can find those. [crosstalk] They must be online somewhere.
Cathy  7:56  
They are online. And I think they actually came out with like, I think somebody had either like hand by hand remastered them.
Kat  8:03  
[crosstalk] Oh sick.
Cathy  8:02  
Or they created a remastered version of it. They're wonderful. But that's I think one of the things about Toonami that I remember really strongly was Gundam Wing kind of is one of their, like epitome of like, Cool Anime that I feel like Toonami did and what it did was like they stiched together all these different things Outlaw Star and Tenchi Muyo and all these other stories to create a story about teenage growth, which is kind of strange and also weirdly fitting at the end of the day about like where Gundam is in the whole universe. 
Kat  8:07  
I think that's one of the reasons it blew up so much here because the marketing was really intense. Like Toonami, like it sort of right at the beginning, like people were into Sailor Moon, Dragonball Z was getting big. And like the manga boom was sort of happening in bookstores. So contextually, I think, Cartoon Network knew what the hell they were doing. They were like, "We can market the hell out of this."
Caitlin  8:55  
And also objectively speaking, Gundam Wing was one of their cooler series. Like, Sailor Moon is cool. Tenchi Muyo is not cool. 
All  9:04  
[laughter]
Kat  9:06  
Yeah. 
Caitlin  9:07  
Even even if you love it, it's not really cool. Dragon Ball. Love it. I don't know if it's really cool. Gundam Wing had like a very strong -
Kat  9:14  
[crosstalk] like the chad of animes
Caitlin  9:16  
- adult aesthetic to it, even though it was like, relatively, well, relatively appropriate for like 12 year olds. 
Kat  9:23  
And they swore during the midnight show.
Caitlin  9:25  
Oh yeah, 
Kat  9:26  
They swore and there was blood. 
Caitlin  9:27  
So it was very cool. And so I felt very adult watching it even though I didn't really understand what was going on because it's all this fake politics crap.
Kat  9:35  
Yeah, I was gonna say I did do a rewatch in like, like, right after college, so it was probably around 2010 ish, maybe? And I don't think we finished the series, but it was like, wow, I used to think this was very deep. [laughter] And I thought all the people in it who are the adults like Mallory, you were mentioning earlier, like they're actually like 17 and 19 
Cathy  10:01  
Yes! 
Kat  10:01  
in this show. So watching it at the age of 21, I was like, "Ooh no, don't give these people anything."
Cathy  10:09  
I was actually thinking about that. Because when you said Mallory, "oh, well, I become very protective of the children. I disapprove the adults," in my head of thinking "what adults?" [crosstalk, Caitlin: yeah what adults?] because actually, in Gundam Wing, there's a funny thing where people are either 15, 25 or like 70. And there's no in between and nobody really makes adult decisions. So it, That was one thing that really shocked me because as I go back to revisit it, I think, "Oh my god, I'm actually older than almost everybody in this series."
Caitlin  10:39  
How old, how old is Treize supposed to be? 
Cathy  10:41  
He's like 23, or 24. 
Kat  10:42  
He's 19.
Cathy  10:43  
No, Zechs is 19.
Kat  10:44  
Oh, Zechs is 19. Right. 
Cathy  10:47  
I just the idea of giving people who, you know, would have either been in college or just graduate college in my worldview, huge robots. 
Kat  10:58  
I think the ages of all the characters gets obscured by the anime art style, you know?
Cathy  11:03  
Yeah. 
Kat  11:03  
In a lot of anime fandoms.
Mallory  11:04  
And when you're watching this, when you're a kid, you want to see yourself as the protagonist. So it makes sense that, you know, a 17 year old seems like old and cool, and I want to be that person. And then when you're 30, you're like, the 17 year old should not be at war. 
Kat  11:23  
Relevant is that we definitely watched Evangelion. That was our last series.
Caitlin  11:29  
I don't know, I think, I think Heero Yuy is doing fine in war. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be honest, as a 30 year old, I think these kids are much better at war than I would be. 
Cathy  11:39  
Well, so that's what I find kind of interesting, is that I think this series actually... I don't, I know this wasn't the point but when I rewatched it recently, or just like the first couple of episodes, it seemed, it made a lot of sense, because they were like 15 or 24. Like the series, actually stitches together... 
Caitlin  11:58  
Yeah. 
Cathy  11:58  
...really well, because of how young they are, and kind of like the purity of feeling that they have, which I think is 
Kat  12:05  
Yeah, it is, like 
Cathy  12:06  
only maybe 
Kat  12:07  
like that [indistinguishable?] 
Cathy  12:07  
which I think is like only really, truly possible because I have to think of them as like 15 or 21 or 19 year olds. that is not at all when I took away when I was watching in high school. Right? 
Mallory  12:21  
Well, I mean, right.
Caitlin  12:22  
Part of the ideology of Gundam in general is like trying to restore a form of hope, and youth to, like, young people growing up in Japan, who are the target audience for this, and this idea that, like, you still have the power to change the world, you still have the power to bring about peace in a way that you want, even though you're being manipulated and oppressed by all these crazy adults who make you pilot giant robots. So I think there's a significant, like part of the series is the fact that they are kids who have been recruited into child warfare, and now have to find some way out of that. And like my memory of the series is that even though most of, most of the decisions made are very bad, the kids in general are not making terrible decisions. They're making pretty good decisions.
Kat  13:12  
Yeah, the pilots themselves... 
Mallory  13:14  
[crosstalk] Yeah 
Kat  13:14  
...are like doing the best they can be doing in that circumstance. 
Cathy  13:17  
[crosstalk] Exactly, exactly
Kat  13:19  
But I think it's sort of interesting, 'cause it's like, to me Gundam Wing is definitely like a fandom era, because I think a lot of stuff exemplifies like...there's like a lot of tropes cycling through it. But also like, the series itself, is so perfectly...like, I think of it as a series that are so perfectly set up for fandom because there's a lot of like, here's my one episode mission, and we have to be at a safe house, I guess. And it's just like, a long interminable war. So there's like, a big, a lot of world building. Yeah, that creates all these spaces that sort of separate from all the political machinations of the series.
Caitlin  13:58  
And that's also I think, a lot of what it was meant to be when it was created within the Gundam franchise like it was it was designed to have sort of a BL appeal to girls writing for comic market and that sort of thing. So it had like the setup of five hot guys who you could combine in various forms. And then also like Gundam itself, in general, it's designed to be and a sort of open universe that you can step into at various points, which also facilitates fandom engagement 
Mallory  14:28  
[crosstalk] literal fandom bait. 
Caitlin  14:29  
usually in the form, yeah, usually in the form of model collecting, which is like one of the main Gundam forms of fandom which we probably won't talk about too much on the show. But you, you kind of
Kat  14:41  
Uh I've definitely built some Gundam models. 
Caitlin  14:43  
Yeah. Well, you will be the expert on that because I've never touched a Gundam model in my life. But that is like the big thing where you can you can get the model you can construct it, you can learn a little bit more about the, like, the technology and the different like details of the models and stuff like that. And it just gives you like a slight, like Little bit more of these like tiny narratives and that sort of what the fans are consuming rather than an overall plot that makes sense, which is not what Gundam has really.
Kat  15:11  
So Gundam [Wing] has like the cool robots but also these hot boys in them.
Caitlin  15:15  
That's what I want. 
Mallory  15:16  
I mean Well, that's exactly what I want to show right now. So it sounds perfect?
Kat  15:21  
Honestly, yeah.
Mallory  15:23  
I think Evangelion, sort of, because, Kat, you and I just finished -- or are almost finished with -- Neon Genesis Evangelion [Kat, crosstalk: we haven't done all the movies yet] which was also it was my first time [Cathy, crosstalk: Congratulations, laugh] watching the whole series...wow, grim 
Kat  15:40  
I also only consumed 
Mallory  15:42  
[crosstalk] grim 
Kat  15:42  
[crosstalk] I consumed it like piecemeal too 
Mallory  15:44  
And depressing
Kat  15:45  
It was great. 
Mallory  15:46  
Very good but um grim.
Kat  15:50  
Yeah it's pretty grim.
Cathy  15:52  
Yeah, it's interesting to me because I feel like Evangelion doesn't make a lot of sense as a cultural product unless you've consumed a series like Gundam or its ancestors before watching it and yet Evangelion is a lot of people's introduction to giant robot series. So I always find that kind of interesting...
Caitlin  16:13  
[crosstalk] It's very weird.
Cathy  16:14  
because it, it is subversive, and I think it's subversive even if you don't know the tropes of the giant robot series, of which Gundam is perhaps a prime example. Gundam Wing...
Kat  16:27  
So I was gonna ask that and like, would you say, since Evangelion is definitely a like the subversion of this genre, would you say Gundam Wing is like the type of series that it is subverting? Or do you think it's in a different place?
Caitlin  16:41  
Gundam Wing and Evangelion came out the same year? Gundam Wing is in some ways a, it's already like a parody form of the original iteration of Gundam. 
Kat  16:55  
Okay, so it's--is it like, um, like the pure essence of teens-robots.
Caitlin  17:02  
It's, it's more like, I feel like by the time of Gundam Wing, the tropes of the original Gundam series are so well set that a lot of things in Gundam Wing to, like the fans who watched the original Gundam or like later Gundams, seemed like a rehash but it was designed to bring in new fans. So something like Zechs Merquis is very clearly like a Char Aznable character. It's just sort of a reiteration of that.
Kat  17:29  
So is it like a Star Wars, like a Star Wars sequel?
Caitlin  17:33  
Like how the Force Awakens is kind of a rehash of yeah, of A New Hope. And then, but it still brings in a lot of fans and has appealing characters and good aesthetics
Kat  17:43  
Right, yeah, I guess I think of them, the two shows, as sort of like, splitting the take on... like, what would you say is like the ur-mecha show? 
Cathy  17:52  
The original Gundam 
Caitlin  17:54  
Original Gundam? 
Cathy  17:54  
Yeah, Mobile Suit Gundam. 
Caitlin  17:56  
I mean, they're, they're older iterations, there's other robot shows. But I feel like when people think of mecha, the first thing they think of is Mobile Suit Gundam. 
Cathy  18:06  
So the way like I now think of Gundam Wing after the fact of experiences I have now is that like Gundam Wing is actually a perfect like K-Pop boy band way that they built it and so if you can kind of think of it like that, like it's, you need enough of the tropes and symbols, so that everybody watches it and immediately knows it's a Gundam series.
Cathy  18:30  
Like the colors of Wing Gundam are so obviously 
Kat  18:34  
Yeah.
Cathy  18:34  
a Gundam Mecca and you need that you can't get away from it. And same thing with like Zech's having a mask it the reason I think of it as being in in the Kpop industry is like there's a derivative sense. And that's animated by both like Merchandising, and advertising and what audiences want but at the same time, it's like this incredibly pure understanding of what makes us like things? And like when you get that when you really get it, like, it doesn't matter how like, quote, unquote manipulative or exploitative it can seem like you love it. And that's enough, right to make it like a thing that we all want to keep coming back to.
Mallory  19:12  
And there's basically like, an archetype right? In  all of the different characters like you have the more
Kat  19:18  
Yeah, you have the serious one. 
Mallory  19:20  
That's what I was thinking.
Kat  19:21  
Like, the goofy one.
Mallory  19:23  
Yeah, the goofy one, the sort of mess 
Kat  19:25  
the ugly one, 
Mallory  19:26  
like really cute one.
Kat  19:29  
Yeah, that's why I was thinking American boy bands cuz they all have to have like a type of heartthrob. Yeah, I'm a bad boy. I love death.
Caitlin  19:38  
One of them's, one of them's a rapper.
Kat  19:40  
Okay, so we talked a little bit about how we got into it. We talked a little bit about fandoms. And we touched on pairings, do we want to go into pairings at all? Or like our fave characters, or who we think our fave characters will be Before this rewatch?
Cathy  19:54  
You know before we do that--Mallory, can you try to tell us what you think this series is about? I'm actually really curious, like before you do a complete viewing, like what? what is what is your understanding of what happens in Gundam Wing?
Mallory  20:08  
Um, there's a long interminable war. These boys are recruited by some shadowy government whatever. And they're piloting these mecha. Uugh, I just remember Duo being really annoying.
Caitlin  20:28  
[loud gasp] [laughter] [crosstalk] Oh my god.
Mallory  20:29  
I mean, not annoying, like, being sort of... 
Kat  20:32  
Wow. 
Mallory  20:33  
...the one the pushy one like, he's the challenging one to Heero's "I'm serious and dour." Literally, I have the most broad strokes impressions of what this show is. I just know it looked really fucking cool every time I saw it in, like, a commercial and couldn't watch it.
Cathy  20:55  
Fascinating.
Caitlin  20:57  
Honestly, even having seen Gundam Wing, I'm not sure I could explain it much better. I don't remember who recruited them.
Mallory  21:03  
Okay. Okay, that does make me feel better. Because I was like, Oh, I don't? Do I actually know what the show is? What am I getting myself into? 
Caitlin  21:14  
There's there's a lot of weird politics. 
Mallory  21:17  
Well, I'm really excited for that. And I don't mean that sarcastically. Like, I'm really excited to, to see what this world is like, because I remember, like images or impressions. But everything is like out of context. So it'll be cool to see what that context is. Like deja vu? Oh, I remember that. I've seen that in AMV.
Kat  21:48  
I remember this from fics that just rewrite scenes from this show.
Mallory  21:55  
Yeah, like, what do I know? What do I know of Gundam that is from fanfic only, or is actual canon? I'm curious to figure out.
Kat  22:10  
I think everyone's a lot less obnoxious in canon.
Caitlin  22:14  
That's true. 
Mallory  22:15  
Okay, okay. 
Caitlin  22:16  
This was a this was a really good fandom for the the fandom phenomenon of, you take a character's most, like, annoying trait, and you emphasize it like times 10 in your fanfic.
Cathy  22:28  
Yes.
Kat  22:28  
Yeah 
Caitlin  22:28  
Just so everybody knows you know what that character is like.
Kat  22:31  
Heero's gonna threaten to kill everybody all the time, constantly.
Caitlin  22:34  
"Omae o korosu."
Cathy  22:36  
[laughing crosstalk] And so, it's funny that you guys mentioned safe houses, because actually, there are very few safe houses in the original series. In fact, I think there's like maybe one or two scenes ever, where they are all in a safe house provided by one of their allies. And it's a really fascinating trope, because it like pervades the fanfic? But I remember, that I remember was like a big deal, like, I went back and I was like, actually, these people spend very little downtime with each other in the actual series and I find that fascinating.
Kat  23:12  
Right? So you have to fill it all in. 
Mallory  23:13  
Oh, wait, what?
Caitlin  23:14  
They actually barely know each other.
Cathy  23:16  
Yeah, they truly barely know each other. [crosstalk]
Mallory  23:18  
Wait. Oh no, I thought, I thought this was going to be like..
Kat  23:23  
[crosstalk] They actually never interact. 
Mallory  23:24  
we're going to get together and become like a team 
Caitlin  23:26  
No, no.
Cathy  23:26  
Absolutely not, 
Caitlin  23:27  
They don't fight together; It's 50 episodes of them not interacting. 
Cathy  23:31  
They, they literally have like, they like, there's probably one or two scenes in which all five of them are on the same battlefield at the same time. And almost every single one of those scenes involves them fighting with each other because like, 
Kat  23:44  
[crosstalk]Oh, yeah, they fight each other alone. 
Cathy  23:45  
What's going on? And this was the thing that I'm sure we'll come back to when I came back to this is when I was rewatching. It in college, I realized that of the two people who spend the most time with each other, it's like Trowa and Heero. Because, yes, it is what arc where they actually go on a road trip, which like, 
Kat  24:03  
it's great. I wrote a thing 
Cathy  24:04  
like wiped it from my memory when I was thinking about the series, but it really drives home. You know, again, to your point like what of this series do I did I remember that was just from fanfic, and was just what like the fanfic I read very specifically. And so that was one of the things is like, when you come back as an adult, I was like, all of this stuff is so much more interesting to me because like, I actually, like, I don't get me wrong, I still have shipping opinions. But like, I'm older and I have I I'm famous for this. And Kat knows this. I like don't have OTPs. And I'm like not very good about actually being very loyal to pairings. And so as an adult coming back to this, I was like, Oh, this is actually really interesting because the permutations that fandom came up with also came from, like,  non-canon material, because there's a lot of non-canon material, like promotional images that bear no resemblance whatsoever to canon. 
Kat  24:54  
Okay, I would,  I would call those extra canonical, right?
Caitlin  24:58  
No, they're, they're extra canonical, they count in some form. 
Kat  25:02  
Right? 'Cause they're official.
Cathy  25:04  
I guess so. I mean, sure, we'll talk about that as time comes but like.
Caitlin  25:08  
Listen, a canon is not just the story. It's the entire media mix around it. It's those, it's those things that you can collect. It's the extra manga. It's Frozen Teardrop, 
Cathy  25:18  
Like, Gundam Wing actually, I think is one of the few franchises I know where like "pair the spares" was a real merchandising tactic. 
Kat  25:26  
Yes, it was. 
Cathy  25:27  
And so, so everybody had somebody... gay, I mean, like, not like, 
Kat  25:34  
Wufei had two! 
Cathy  25:35  
They had a gay and a straight interest that they were paired up with. And so, um, so it's like, fascinating to me to come back and be like, actually, the canon is a lot more flexible and interesting than I remembered it.
Caitlin  25:49  
The canon for me is like, remarkable in its commitment to not officially putting anyone together. Like it was, it's very good at balancing out all of the different pairings that it wants to support. 
Mallory  26:01  
Mm hmm. 
Caitlin  26:02  
Um, it's interesting to see which ones got picked up as the main two in fandom, which for me, were always 1x2 and 3x4 dominated the fandom, because they're both like, friendly, maybe talkative, personable guy and like silent, brooding, weirdo, 
Kat  26:22  
Warrior. 
Caitlin  26:22  
What fandom loves! Fandom loves that exact dynamic in every form. And so like, what 1, 1 and 3, were never going to work together because they're both silent and brooding. Fandom was never gonna pick that up. It's too It's too boring. It's not dynamic enough, right?
Mallory  26:37  
Like, you can't fight. There's no banter,
Cathy  26:39  
Which is actually weird, because if you go back and watch the episodes, you'll see it. Heero actually is not that quiet. And Trowa is like a nutcase. And so 
Kat  26:48  
they're really funny together, 
Cathy  26:49  
when they are together, they're actually incredibly dynamic in ways that in fact, the canon doesn't establish 1x2, or 3x4 to be. And so it is really fascinating, because I do agree with Caitlin. What came out of this canon is very different from what I think the show gives. And I don't know the show was like, open minded because it wanted to sell as much merch as possible or
Caitlin  27:13  
It's that.
Cathy  27:13  
Yeah, so I don't know.
Mallory  27:14  
Capitalism.
Kat  27:16  
I am gonna say I think the show is a 3x4 shipper. Like I think if the show had a pairing, it would be a three, it would be 3x4, like from my recollections of the show
Mallory  27:26  
Yeah
Caitlin  27:26  
I always thought that was true. But now 
Cathy  27:28  
I disagree. 
Caitlin  27:29  
I feel like I'm gonna go into this and and be like, they never
Kat  27:32  
Nobody else has a musical interlude.
Cathy  27:34  
But the but the thing is, here's Okay, so not to, like, make this too much about the pairing... But I also think 1x2 and 3x4 become established. I put that in quotes early in the series. And so it becomes entrenched and people assume that that's the pairing. But actually, I just remember so strongly when I went back and rewatched that I was like, there really is not that much evidence for Trowa and Quatre's like instantaneous connection because Quatre has that with almost every other pilot, and Trowa's relationship with Heero is like so much more interesting when I come back to it, even though I definitely think they would never work. They would like killing each other and instead as an adult.
Kat  28:12  
And I mean, I love that pairing. And like the one thing that came out of my rewatch a million years ago was I wrote a 1x3 fic cuz I really love those episodes, and fandom didn't do anything with it. But I feel like, I feel like Quatre and Trowa are framed slightly differently than all the other potential pairings so that they could be together.
Cathy  28:33  
Even up until Endless Waltz like, I really just feel like that that was an early series thing. And then as you go on into the series, that relationship while still important, was not really emphasized any more or less.
Kat  28:47  
But I mean, if it, if it comes out of the gate strong, [laughter] like
Caitlin  28:51  
That's all that matters
Kat  28:52  
I still think that the show was pushing that one if it pitched. Like if it was giving the most evidence to any one of them, I think the early stuff was really like, ~look at this beautiful pairing.~
Caitlin  29:04  
So wait do we all want to, maybe to end this episode, we should all go through and predict what are OTP or pseudo OTP for Cathy will be by the end of this rewatch. 
Kat  29:16  
But also tell me your fave character because that's what I asked like, 15 minutes ago.
Cathy  29:21  
Okay, Kat you first.
Kat  29:23  
Oh, well, my favorite character has always been Duo Maxwell. And I'm predicting that he's still going to be my fave character. And I am going to stake my flag on Duo/Wufei, 2x5.
Cathy  29:36  
Mallory?
Mallory  29:37  
I think from what I remember, I really liked Trowa, I thought Heero was too dour, but I also think that I might relate to him a lot more this time around. So I'm going to say that Heero is going to be my favorite character. And I've always liked...see, I don't know about fandom pairings. I want to say it'll be...well it was Duo/Heero before? No, but I've-- I really like Duo/Wufei so, like, I think that's just always gonna be my Gundam Wing ship.
Cathy  30:20  
So when I was a kid watching it my favorite was Duo Maxwell, but I know from my prior rewatching, or attempts to rewatch the series, that as an older person coming into the series, I actually like the girls a lot more, like Relena and Dorothy and Noin became my favorite characters and I did not give them the credit they deserved when I was watching it as a younger person. 
Cathy  30:41  
I also was 1x2 shipper but again, I know that what I came out of the series really shipping was disastrous Heero/Trowa, and then Duo/Wufei.
Caitlin  30:56  
Okay, I see we are all Duo/Wufei fans now.
Kat  30:59  
[crosstalk] That's why this is going to be the superior Gundam Wing podcast.
Caitlin  31:02  
Yeah. I feel like so, my favorite character when I was originally watching as a kid was Quatre. I think probably because like I always liked like, the friendly blondes in boy bands? 
Kat  31:13  
That go apeshit? 
Caitlin  31:15  
When I got older, I was more into Duo and Duo is was probably still my favorite character. I was into Duo/Wufei for a long time. I just think that they are funny together and terrible. And I actually really like Wufei a lot. I sort of admire that fake honor sort of thing. But I, since everybody said Duo/Wufei, I feel like I should say something else, which is that I think that I will get more into 3x4 again after this rewatch, because it's a comforting pairing, in some ways. It's a return. And we're all very full of anxiety right now. [laughter] And so we just need Quatre and stupid, crazy Trowa, you know, having their pure love connection that fandom imagined for them from the beginning.
Kat  32:02  
It's real.
Mallory  32:03  
I look forward to it. 
Cathy  32:04  
I do too. I also look forward to hating Treize because that's what happened the last time I rewatched this. He's such a fuck boy.
Kat  32:12  
I'm excited to love Dorothy and Relena.
Cathy  32:14  
My god, they're so good. Yeah, they're so good. That's what I should have said is my favorite pairing.
Kat  32:20  
Fandom definitely ruined me for a little bit, like, "urgh, Relena!"
Caitlin  32:24  
When I was a kid, part of the appeal of Gundam Wing fandom was in some ways that it was so sexist, and so I could like act out my own internalized misogyny at the time. And so like, I like I was definitely participating in that of like a group breaking up the boys, whatever. And then in later iterations, I like love Relena. So.
Kat  32:45  
Yeah, she was just such an easy reason for them to get together, right? For 1x2, but in the show, she's way more than a plot device. So that was kind of frustrating.
Caitlin  32:56  
In the show, she's easily the most one of the most interesting and active characters for sure.
Kat  33:02  
As podcast Daddy, I declare Episode Zero officially over. Thank you everyone for your time and catch us in two weeks with Episode One: The boy whose wings killed adolescence.
Caitlin  33:16  
Byeeee [laughter]
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Winx Club Season 2 Thoughts (4kids) Part 2
Since my thoughts are a bit scattered with this season and the post was getting long, I decided to separate them in two posts. You can find Part 1 here. This part picks up from 2x14:
- Ugh, pls no. Diaspro. Dammit.
- She’s making laws about fashion? What are this girl’s parents doing and why are they allowing this? She has them as confirmed later on in the episode so why is she making laws when she’s apparently not responsible enough to be given that power?
- Ooh, weather spells. Those look really good. I already said this but I am so happy that we get to see them have classes and learn new magic. It’s really cool and I am so totally here for it!
- Why isn’t Stella going with them?
- I can’t stand Sky’s parents. They are absolutely terrible. And the way Samara shouted at Bloom... jeez, rude! I know you’re a queen, but my god, have some fucking manners, will you? Sky turned out spectacularly considering these two are his parents. (So I might have a theory that he’s adopted.) Probably because they just left him to the servants to look after him which was most certainly his lucky day bc he was raised by good people. I am not even sorry for all this bitching. Erendor and Samara are the fucking worst and you can’t convince me otherwise.
- Also, to keep at this, he was about to introduce his girlfriend to them and they’re just there like “I hope he falls in love with Diaspro again”. Why are you such horrible people and parents?
- Seriously, Bloom? Why would he want to introduce you to his parents if he wanted Diaspro? Ugh, I can’t anymore with this.
- Oooh, nice! I see Bloom and Flora have learned some things in Griselda’s classes. And Brandon didn’t turn into shredded cheese so that was great too.
- Why the sudden change in Diaspro? I mean, not that I mind. She could be such an awesome character if they would just give her a proper arc and character development, and let it stick too. It was just weird. Might have been just Flora’s influence. I would love to believe that. And the fact that Diaspro isn’t heartless and actually listened when the Wrong Righters put things in perspective for her. Btw can we talk about how amazing her design is and how beautiful she is? (Also, Chatta don’t encourage her.)
- Even Sky admitted his parents are terrible. “They’re not usually that nice”? Boy, I feel so sorry for you, Sky.
2x15:
- Damn, I love how Musa defeated Stormy! And those were the runes Palladium taught them about. That’s awesome! I love!
- Wow. That was some makeover there with Stormy.
- Brandon is giving out kisses? And Stella agreed to that? Wow, okay. Stella is feeling very generous today. XD
- Poor Musa! It’s hard when parents are being like that. I get that he is still grieving but damn, that doesn’t mean he should make her cry. And threatening her to withdraw her from Alfea and her friends. That’s just cruel.
- Ahh, some clarity has finally been shed into the princess matter. So she’s unofficially a princess. Okay. I got it now.
- Aww, that dream seemed pretty bad. Poor baby. And that part about “everything in me is music” and her resolve to do what she loves... I’m fucking crying! *sobs* Why is it that Musa and Layla always get the rawest arcs?
- Wow, Codatorta is all black-tie? XD
- Seriously, how did Stella let her go out on stage with that outfit?
- Why do they always have to use their parents against them? I am so mad about this. But awwwwwwwww at the singing part! And look, Riven is hyping people up. And he met her dad. And her dad is okay with her singing. Awwww! (Just so you know, I am still crying.)
- You gotta love the animation mistakes, though. Faragonda started out next to Saladin, then she was a seat away, and then she moved over an entire row. Nice one! Why is no one looking for continuity?
- Aww, Stella and Layla hugging Musa. And then the song with Stella was cute!
2x16:
- I couldn’t find the 4kids version of 2x16 (meaning I couldn’t be bothered to look for it more extensively because it was late and, of course, I will watch the creepiest episode right before going to bed) so I watched the RAI dub and I won’t be going into any detail here. This is pretty much the one episode that has been sealed into my brain ever since I was little. I always loved it because it was so nicely creepy (though, I am not sure how exactly I handled it when I was a child (I’m not exactly big on horror if you haven’t grasped it already since the episode isn’t really that scary but I still find the part with the “three sisters” kinda scary with the way they talk and Winx being cornered by them)). I liked the way the legend was built and that with the mirrors cracking was actually kinda cool. Also, I love the moment everyone starts fawning over Winx’s “costumes” and Mitzi can’t get any attention. And yeah, good lesson that the way you read the signs may not be true to what they’re actually pointing to.
2x17:
- (I already talked quite a bit for 2x17 and 2x18 last year when I rewatched them so I will not go into that much detail about them either... Or will I?)
- And even despite that, I absolutely can’t not mention that scene with Griffin and Faragonda in the beginning of 2x17 bc it is so goddamn dramatic and extra and Griffin just teleported to Alfea to make a 20-second scene (I counted them because, yes, I am that obsessed with this scene) and then disappeared again. I love!
- Lol, Ediltrude and Zarathustra, I can’t. They are so obviously sisters. I don’t get it, though. If Cloud Tower doesn’t take well to intruders, why did it let the Trix take over it and was kinda helping them even before they started sending energy in its veins? Is it because they’re witches and studied there so it doesn’t consider them intruders? Also, I love how the thing about Cloud Tower being a living organism has never come up before nor did it ever again.
- Aww, poor Mirta. But hey, she and Lucy finally fixed that friendship. That was actually kinda cute. I liked it. Lucy didn’t have to be such a bitch even if she was feeling betrayed but I actually get it so... All is well when it ends well, right?
- Stormy really doesn’t know how to manage her emotions, does she? Someone get her some therapy, please. She’s going to explode if she keeps bottling everything up.
- Aww, poor Lucy. The way Stormy blasted her. I feel really bad for her. And she was so scared (rightfully so). Somebody help her. (and get her therapy too)
- I am not really a fan of the catfight spell idea. I think they could’ve just let Winx disagree simply because they disagreed. They are friends but they can have different opinions. They don’t have to be under a spell to have a reason to argue.
- Oh, so Griffin can sense there’s someone at her door but she can’t fucking tell when some other shit is happening at her school. Makes total sense.
- Poor Lucy, though. She was so scared.
- What the heck was Stella doing anyway? She was just sitting around without doing shit. Was that the genius plan, hon?
- Okay, why did Bloom decide she could handle the Trix on her own when all of Winx couldn’t really beat them together?
- Yeah, Griffin can put a spell that the Trix can’t get through around the Heart of Cloud Tower but she can’t send her own energy into its veins to make Cloud Tower itself kick them out. Makes perfect sense.
- Layla and Musa actually teaming up with the witches was really cool. And they would’ve won too if the Trix didn’t get the statues to fight for them. (I actually liked the witch lounge btw.)
- Seriously, look at the Trix’s powers. How do Winx keep getting away from them? Darcy can legit blind people with that optical darkness spell. How have they not won with ease yet? But yeah, why destroy her immediately when we can wait for her friends to show up and save her? Sounds good.
2x18:
- “Is that Miss Griffin?” Can’t you see? Of course, it is.
- I gotta say that at least she was smart enough not to put the Codex with the Heart. Because as we saw, that was way too easy to figure out
.- “Forget about them” Yeah, so they can try and kill you. Nice one, Flora!
- Why is Stella so bitchy in these episodes? What is the problem, Stella? Why can’t you just chill? Aaaand... Now they’re trapped. Great!
- Can we talk about the fact that Griffin’s plan saved all their lives? So yeah, “wicked”. Right. Never mind they would’ve died otherwise. Although, why the hell didn’t she take the other teachers with her? Surely that would’ve made getting control of the tower back easier. Why doesn’t anyone do anything smart dammit?
- So Darcy can make herself look like Griffin but she can’t make herself sound like Griffin? Is that it? That’s what I’m getting from this scene because she didn’t try to talk to Lucy and Mirta.
- “We’re in the classroom that belongs to that weird witch teacher.” Which one? I think they all fall under that category so you’re going to have to be a bit more specific.
.- Poor witches. Getting eaten by their own school. I hope Griffin will get them some therapy after that.
- Oh yeah, now the Trix are stronger. Even though they were losing against Layla and Musa in the previous episode.
- How will going back to their dorm rooms help when the entire tower is going insane? This doesn’t make any sense.
- Oh, look! Just a simple deduction was all it took to figure out the location of the Codex. Easy peasy, right?
- Yeah, let’s do convergence when we don’t fucking know what we’re trying to do. Nice one, you guys! Also, poor Discorda. But why does Cloud Tower have a pixie? This is so weird. Though, kinda good I guess since they’d been trying to make out the witches all evil and having a pixie there is a step in the right direction.
2x19:
- Yeah, just keep blasting without focusing your energy. ‘Cause that’s totally effective. Also, ugh, why Avalon again?
- Aww, Bloom saw Marion and Oritel. And of course she doesn’t remember the dark force in her dream. It would’ve been so easy.
- Why the hell would Bloom listen to Locket, you know? (I mean, she had a point about Locket trying to look into people’s hearts but still.)
- Poor Timmy. He doesn’t know what to do and now that. At least he’s not mad at Bloom. (In all fairness, it wasn’t her fault.)
- And that makeover didn’t do much good. But of course not, when Avalon lied to them about what they should do.
- Bloom, I know you’re not yourself, but for the love of everything sacred, stop destroying the books! This is hurting me!
- Damn, she got shrunk. And is still causing trouble.
- Oh, that chase in the pages of the book was actually kinda cool.
- I think Winx should have just put their everything into stopping her earlier. i know they didn’t want to fight her but it was obvious they wouldn’t be able to get through to her and that she was spelled big time.
- That with the pixie kiss was kinda weird but cute. And yeah, sure, Bloom is grateful to Locket for sticking with her but still won’t listen to her about Avalon. Will it kill you to be a little more mindful of the man?
2x20:
- Okay, that vacation idea was so random. Although it looks like it was necessary. They just didn’t stop fighting.
- Yeah, sure the boys can’t socialize. Who is even watching to make sure that they won’t? Please.
- Ugh, Avalon, the absolute bitch. Of course he’s pretending to be poisoned.
- Aww, that Riven and Sky friendship moment was really cute. And Sky lying to him about Musa but then hitting the actual tree Riven was warning him about. XD And Layla beat them both, lol.
- Palladium blushing like that at Avalon. Hmm... I wonder what he needed that love potion for. I hope he knows that that isn’t exactly ethical.
- Okay, so how the hell did they have time to sew their suits together? That just doesn’t make sense but okay. At least they stopped fighting.
- And of course, why the hell would anyone tell them that such a thing as Charmix exists? That is totally not relevant. Not to mention that they should’ve gotten it earlier. Bloom should have gotten hers back in season 1 when she learned who she was and accepted it and Musa should have gotten her at the concert in Red Fountain. But of course, that only appears now. I mean, makes total sense.
2x21:
- Yeah, it’s a realm free of magic but because your Gloomix multiplies your magic, you’ll still have some. That’s just... not how it works. If it’s a realm free of magic, there shouldn’t be any magic. Otherwise, it simply is a realm that consumes your powers but if you can find a way to keep them above a certain level, you can still have them.
- Okay, but if I was Layla, I would feel bad about Stella feeling bad but I wouldn’t blame myself. She couldn’t have known. It’s not that she’s bad at friendship. But hey, at least Stella told her how she feels and she got her Charmix.
- Okay, yeah, Darcy has the power of mindcontrol but they still haven’t won. Yeah, makes perfect sense.
- Aww, it was sweet of Brandon to talk to Musa about Riven. And she told him how she felt and got her own Charmix. That was cute.
- “My lips kinda hurt.” Smooth one, Brandon.
- And they’re at the edge of a cliff now. Damn what a (literal) cliffhanger of an ending.
- Oh, no. Poor Layla just fell off the cliff like that. And now she can’t climb back.
2x22:
- Well, at least the Charmix reloads itself quickly. Even if it also gets exhausted quickly.
- Aww, Layla also got her Charmix. That was actually a very heartfelt moment. It almost made me cry.
- And Tecna finally admitted her feelings for Timmy. Now if only Flora can do the same with Helia.
2x23:
- Aww, the pixies are sick. Poor babies.
- Real Avalon at last. Fucking finally. Also, that spell was super freaky but it’s got me thinking about what you’d have to do to perform it... And now I’m getting ideas here.
- Oh, they’re getting special training for the Charmix now? Never mind that they weren’t even told that thing existed. Makes so much sense. (I don’t know why I’m surprised anymore.)
- I know Faragonda was trying to encourage Flora but it felt more like she was scolding her and was being disappointed by her tbh.
- Awww, Griselda said she’s proud of Flora! That is so cute! Also, I love how even Griselda can see that Helia is so into Flora but Flora herself can’t.
- Oh, pixies are born from the flower of life? That’s... kind of weird but okay.
- Flora finally told him! Great! I can’t help it at the moment when she yelled after him and then was like “Opps, he heard me. What do I do now?” XD And she also got her Charmix. That’s gotta be one of the best days for her.
- You mean Faragonda never asked to see the letter she sent to Avalon even though she is well aware Darkar is out there and is doing literally everything to get his hands on the Codex? My god, what epic dumbassery, I can’t. Seriously, they could’ve just handed him the Codex, it wouldn’t have been much worse than what they’re doing now.
- What does he want? Gee, I don’t know. The Trix were after Bloom and Avalon’s been preying on Bloom since the very beginning (and they even figured out he was the one who turned her evil) but what the hell could he want? Beats the hell out of me. At least Tecna finally put it together. And, of course, it is too late.
- Poor Stella, running around with that glass of water like that.
2x24:
- Aww, the pixies want to go too. That’s... probably not the best idea but it’s not like they can do anything about it.
- Poor Brandon! I think Sky would be scared, too, if he’d been through what happened to Brandon. (Not that he wasn’t already. XD)
- Tecna a few episodes ago: “Just because I come from a technology-based realm doesn’t mean that I don’t have emotions.” Tecna in this ep: “Consider me your new computer.” Amazing.
- Aww, that dragon was kinda cool. Too bad it tried to kill them.
- Oh, look! Flora’s got this! Nice! And we saw her Charmix.
- Brandon probably shouldn’t have said that about Sponses (did I even get his name right?) But they were in luck there with Sky’s attack taking out both Amentia and the guard.
- Okay, Stella’s plan wasn’t completely solid but they still pulled off that emergency take-off so... that’s okay.
- And Bloom is dark now. He just literally sent darkness into her heart, wtf.
2x25:
- Oh, damn! The Trix really upgraded these monsters. But now they’re drained, I kinda feel bad for them. I know they’re evil but dammit, they worked for their rewards and they aren’t going to get anything because Darkar is like that. Why is he so obsessed with Bloom? This is getting creepy again.
- Awww, Riven is being so supportive and such a team player! I love this! Can we let this fucking stick goddammit?!
- Oh, damn! Helia absolutely pulled off that rescue! Nice!
- Awwwwww, Griselda being there like “Our kids” is literally the most adorable thing ever! I love. And thank fucking god Faragonda finally decided to go help. It was about damn time. (Especially considering the stupidity with Avalon. (I am still not over that.))
- Hey, the convergence is working this time! Cool!
- Aww, Saladin can’t go with them bc of health issues. :/ (Though, pretty convenient that they had to take Codatorta considering what happened later on.)
- That goodbye was so cute! Brandon with that cheesy line! XD And Helia and Flora’s first kiss! But hey, what do you mean Tecna and Timmy don’t get a kiss? I know they already kissed once but give them a proper goodbye at least. And I am absolutely ready to cry over Riven and Musa!!!! He finally admitted his feelings! And that hug! I also liked the Layla and Sky moment, however short it was.
- Damn, Kerborg is... That thing. I liked him more as a... bat (thingy?). And they are in trouble but at least the teachers showed up on time this time. (kind of)
2x26:
- Yeah, “completely under control”, sure.
- “The ultimate power couple”? Um... Ew?!
- And they’re splitting up. But eh, it all works out so... good for them.
- I gotta admit I am not a fan of that thing with the colors that Stella did. It felt like she couldn’t be useful for anything else so they just shoved that in there. Nice one, you guys. Also, what do you mean that they don’t have straight As? After the shit they go through, how can anyone write them any mark different than A tbh? I mean, they saved the universe. What more do you want from them?
- The boys are catching up with them, too. Nice.
- “His confidence is bigger than his abilities,” Well, yeah, you’re not wrong there. XD Also, aww, damn! :/ They just killed Kerborg. So sad! (Alexa play Despacito.)
- Oh, damn! That Trix convergence is... creepy. But kinda cool. I like it.
- Riven sacrificed himself for Musa! (Could’ve just pushed her out of the way but anyway.)
- And Sky dropped the L word. And it had the desired effect. His speech was actually rather cute. I liked that part about him feeling the goodness of her heart when she healed him back in Red Fountain.
- Griffin and Faragonda’s shield is holding up well. Their convergence is also super powerful.
- Speaking of convergence, that was some amazing sync between Winx. And they wiped him off the face of the universe. I love how nobody is talking about the fact that they just killed a guy. Granted a very possessed guy, but still.
- Aww, Faragonda and Griffin toasting together was so cute. “Griffy”. I can’t. XD Same for Codatorta and Knut arm wrestling.
- I am so happy for Layla and that she finally has friends. Also, look at her being all matchmaker with Riven and Musa. Aww, and Piff said her first word!
- Tecna and Timmy and Helia and Flora were so cute! And of course we can’t forget about Stella and Brandon who are the king and queen of cheesy romance. XD (I love them! They are so made for each other.)
- Aww, Bloom gave Kiko little wings! That was so adorable. Also, good to see him again. And I do believe that was her first kiss with Sky (honestly, I don’t pay much attention to them). But they just had to hijack the photo like that.
This season was definitely better than I expected. Did it have a shitton of stuff that didn’t make sense? Well, yes. But was it engaging? Mostly. I would’ve loved it more if Avalon and Darker weren’t pissing me off so much but there was some solid action and heartfelt moments. Also, Layla is really cool and I’m glad they decided to include her and that she found her place in the group. I don’t really love the Charmix as much as I used to when I was little but damn if the Gloomix doesn’t still rock hard! And you gotta love the actual classes we got to see! So I actually liked this quite a lot.
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This is gonna be a long post, and since tumblr sucks and won't let me put a read more, you have my condolences
Ah yes, this is a long time coming. Not a long time coming in the sense that I will murder the person who murdered my past life's fiancee, no, we're not talking about Fallout today. Today, friends, family, and assorted acquaintances, we're talking about the Random Encounters Phoenix Wright the Musical... musical.
Now why, you may be asking, am I doing this? Why in the world am I writing such a long, unneeded essay on a musical that's like, 5 years old? Well, dear reader, that's a simple question, with a simple answer. And that is that I really just want the person who played Edgeworth to be recognized. What a sweetheart. Superb singing, and the bloopers are great. That's it. That's why. I really want people to watch it after they read this, with flaws in mind, and just enjoy the talents that went into it. So, let us begin.
So if you aren't super fans of Random Encounters (RE for short), they make musicals for games. Very good ones in fact. I really enjoyed "Finding Mister Midnight" And all of the undertale ones. And Phoenix Wright, obviously. I haven't watched their recent stuff (I don't really watch the musicals of games I don't already know or like, aside from Phoenix Wright (yes the musical got me into Phoenix Wright)) but I just might see what they've done because I always enjoy the bloopers and such.
Now
Phoenix Wright the Musical (no relation to Turnabout Musical)
What a superb, fantastic, blessing that is absolute garbage (in the nicest way possible). Like literally, let's dive into this
Flaws
Larry is the victim. God I wish he would die, but he won't. Cry about spoilers all you want, this musical is 30 mins, Larry isn't actually dead.
"My Best friend of several years is dead? Welp... That sucks"
Edgeworth openly admits he's "an amenable prosecutor", which he would never give Phoenix the satisfaction of knowing if it were true. I get that that's KiNdA how miles is, but he's still a stubborn bastard at the bench
Maya in the games does have quips and jokes, but honestly the judge would have threatened contempt of court if she kept talking like she did in the musical
Gumshoe isn't a very aggressively nice and loud person in the musical, it's more like a younger version of him I suppose
I can't tell what ages they are supposed to be. Say it's after Dual Destinies, the last game that came out before this musical, Phoenix just got his badge back and has a daughter... Except no because his suit is more the one before Apollo Justice and they never mention trucy. Aight, Trials and Tribulations era. But wait, didn't Edgeworth already say in that game "this is my first and last trial as a defense attorney "? No way he'd do it again so close. Plus, you know, other things (such as time and place) that will make this point too long.
Speaking of Defense attorney Edgeworth, they really just... Let that slide didn't they... Game Miles did all that work just for it to turn out that he didn't even need to.
Larry is alive
"When the night guards found the body," They apparently didn't bother to check if it was a real person oh, I dunno a blue freaking badger-
Who... Let "Doctor Hotti" Look at the body for the autopsy. It's funny but... How did this happen. Franziska shoulda whipped him
I understand that this musical is suppose to be welcoming to newcomers. But... "Everybody got trauma" Is something people should know! Don't mention DL-6, or Gant, Manfred, Morgan, Kristoph, Yanni Yogi. That's not what I mean... Just... Man, Edgeworth is a mess! Phoenix is a mess! Let them be a mess!
Maya was allowed to assist in the investigation, when she's the suspect... Ok?
And many more...
Now you're waiting for me to defend it and tell you it's strengths. But unfortunately... That is exactly what I'm gonna do!
Strengths
Every actor is a great singer. A special shoutout to Edgeworth and Franziska's actors 👏🏻👏🏻
The story was easy to follow and engaging enough to make me watch an entire play through of all the games (specifically I watched Nicob)
Almost every actor was perfect for their role and really sold it, may I once again point out miles and franziska, as well as Payne this time? Everyone did a lovely job
The twist was something that had never been done in aa to my knowledge. Though it might have been funny if Rise from the Ashes ended like that instead.
I criticized Miles being a defense attorney for an hour but I enjoyed miles and Maya interacting. Like yes miles, protect your basically daughter.
I can pinpoint the exact moment I became a narumistu shipper to the end of the musical, where Edgeworth and Phoenix were discussing the case, and Edgeworth said "Wright, a defense attorney does not sleep in his office". This line isn't romantic, but I remember 13 year old me whispering "what a good boyfriend"
Larry is likeable. You think I'm joking? I had high Expectations for Larry after watching this musical. Game 1 delivered, the rest did not. He is actually a good character in this musical.
I rewatched this musical for this post, but I didn't even need to, I could quote this musical like the back of my hand. It doesn't help that the lines are so quotable. "better the devil you know, Wright" And "it's half past shut your face and leave me alone! ...Pacific daylight time" Are personal favourites.
Grape juice
They had gumshoe. I miss you gumshoe. Come back to the newer games
The music is a blessing. "Wright is Wrong" And "The Loser Song" Are personal favourites, but I could jam to any of them (even oldbags sleazy jazz number)
And many more!
Look, it's not perfect. It's not anywhere close, especially if you are a fan of ace attorney. But it's a darn good watch if you have half an hour to kill, or just wanna hear some damn good singing.
Also, listen, John I think your name is? Person who played Edgeworth. Honestly pls sing more man, or audition for an Edgeworth part of a dub, pls man I'm begging you you're amazing.
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ML Season 3 Rewatch: Animaestro
Production code 302. This was the first episode that I watched the day it aired lol, and man was it a tough transition from binging them all at once, to waiting who knows how long for a new episode. I think overall it gave me a greater appreciation for each episode as its own standalone thing.
Also, I feel the need to say that these rewatch posts will contain spoilers for the rest of the episodes of the season - EXCLUDING LOVE EATER AND MIRACLE QUEEN - I won’t spoil those AT ALL i promise. But a big part of rewatching these episodes for me is 1 getting a good order of events in my head, and 2 comparing the things that happen earlier in the season to things that happen later so we can look at how things are changing and moving forward. So if you haven’t seen all of the regular non-finale episodes and don’t want to be spoiled on them, maybe avoid these bc I can’t guarantee I won’t talk about them.
Rewatch thoughts under the cut!
ooo i forgot that they open with clips from the PV. the animation looks soo good!!
lmao ‘that is so not true. i’m not afraid of cats’
adrien voicing chat in the movie...... how did that even happen lmao. like did someone offer it to him?? was it his idea?? why did he say yes?? omfg i bet it was plagg’s idea or some shit
also, now im wondering who voiced laybug, hmm
tom’s voice when marinette says she wants to help!! “you want.. to be... a server..?”
sabine so snarky lmao, calling marinette out for only wanting to go cause adrien will be there
me at every scene with tom dupain ever: his hands are HUUUUGE!!
aklakjda marinette’s adrien impression “how could you know me so well when i’m so secretive)
have i mentioned that i love marinette’s room. i love marinette’s room. i want all the things in it
tikki just been sitting by watching marinette bake macarons without asking why for WEEKS lol
*ignores that the english dub is calling clara nightingale, laura*
tbh i like the thomas astruc cameo, and the great cameo’s we see later on in the season too
the whole concept of the reason for akumatization in this episode is so ridiculous lmao. all these people at a MOVIE premiere, don’t know who the DIRECTOR of the movie is or what a director DOES?? come on lol
“who would want to see ladybug and chat noir as cartoon characters?” 😂
her hair!!! and the outfit!!! her signature flower design on the apron??? i love her
i would just like to say that for any kids watching this show who actually don’t know what the director of a movie does, this episode does a really bad job of explaining it imo lol. they never really say what astruc actually does lmao
adrien agreste owns 1 (one) single suit. wears it to all his public outings.
“uh oh! she’s seen him!” gOD i love sabine
“adrien, you are so normal to me” lmaooo i love the way her sentences get flustered
adrien immediately wants to see why marinette is crawling around on the floorr
kagami’s outfit?? 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
ahh right. this is the episode everyone was mad about because marinette and chloe like ‘team up’ against kagami. at this point marinette doesnt really know kagami and unfortunately sees her only as a threat. but it seemed to me that she learned her lesson by the end of this episode and the jealousy really subsides. besides, she really only joins chloe once she thinks adrien’s future is in jeopardy, rather than just because kagami is a love interest for him. plus marinette and kagami’s relationship has developed beautifully as the season has gone on as theyve gotten to know each other, so im not mad that they had a rough beginning *shrugs*
also i love kagami telling chloe off lol. you go girl. stand up for yourself
adrien apparently knows every language known to man
*steadfastly ignores the english dubs choice to have adrien say hes a dog person*
chloe smashing the shit out of a trashbag full of macarons using a ladle ahahah why is this so funny to me omg
blonde Manon lookalike..bothers me...
“people do sometimes prefer things to other things” lmao
adrien panicking as he tries to find kagami somewhere to sit :(( he just wants to help :((
the plplplp sound effect when astruc gets coverd in pimples lolll
chloe only JUST realizing marinette has a crush on adrien lol. basically EVERYONE knows at this point. this marks the first time of the season where adrien almost finds out about marinette’s crush. i still think it’s a running theme throughout, she gets SO close so many times!!
i LOVE the mixture of the more traditional animation in this episode, its so fun and cool and looks so crisp
and the old timey sound effects?? amazing
classic chat getting hit in the head with the baton, ah my favorite. gets me every time
“just because it’s colorful and shiny doesn’t mean it’s not extremely dangerous!” oh mAN so many winking at the audience type lines like that in this episode
mr damocles still dressing up as the owl akdjalsd
and gorilla smASHING THE PHONE!!? ahdakd classic
hawkmoth’s face when she cuts the stream!!! aahhahha. and he SMASHES the ipad omfggg gabriell, calm down, get your shit togetherrr
aaaand civilian gabriel is now running around trying to get a glimpse of his supervillion. not going as planned today is it hawkie?
gabriel straight up monologuing on the streets as his civilian self. yikes lol
chloe telling marinette that theyll never be a team...if only she know how badly she already wanted to be on her team lmao
okay in terms of order of the episode, there wasn’t really anything i saw that places it later than the production order suggests. it’s obviously before all the other kagami episodes imo because there hasn’t been the development of her friendship with marinette that we see in Ikari Gozen, and marinette is pretty negative to her at the beginning of that one. and then kagami and adrien seem like they still havent hung out much yet here, so it feels like they aren’t as close as they maybe are in Oni Chan, and definitely not as close as they are in Desperada. Overall it definitely feels like an early season episode and i feel okay about it as number 2 for now. unless something happens later to make me believe something happened before this. (Oblivio has ads for the movie, but i guess technically those could be promotional for before or after it came out. more likely after though imo)
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Quick! Top 10 best James TeamRocket episodes of all time and why are they good?
OH GOOD ASK TELLY. im actually gonna just to top 5 because i have too many feelings and putting them all in one ask makes me anxious haha.
5. DP153/The Treasure is All Mine! - bruh they really gave an homage to my favourite episode of pokeani smack dab in the middle of DP. god i lov this ep. i can’t believe they acknowledged james’ backstory in such detail so so late in the series and so far after his initial episode. mostly i love this episode because we actually get to see a lot of bby james living his life as a kid and it drops the BOMB that he actually did have feelings for his ex fiancee at one point, incredibly shallow ones that rode entirely on the fact that he thought she was pretty, and OH BY THE WAY SHE LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE JESSIE BUT NO ROCKETSHIPPING BRO. i have too many feelings about this. also growlie was there i love growlie. also finally got jessie in disguise as jessebelle why’d that take so long??? i mean probably because the writers aren’t cruel enough to do that to james but yknow.
4. AG147/Sweet Baby James - god i just watched this episode for the first time in japanese and it’s so good. it’s so fucking good. i think my favourite thing about this episode is that it lets you know there were at least two more people looking out for james in his childhood. so he had them and his growlithe, which is a comforting thought. every time he starts talking abt his childhood i black out from heartbreak lol. i love this whole arc of the anime because james’ chimecho is arguably his favourite pokemon of all time and when he finally gets one he helicopter parents it to an extent that it’s kinda virtually useless from a story perspective (hence why it got written out so quick) and despite his obsession with protecting it from harm, it ends up getting so sick it can’t travel with him anymore. so even though it’s not explored there’s this underlying lesson he has to learn that no matter how much he loves something he can’t protect it from everything, and i think it would’ve been really cool if they had explored that more because in a way james is kind of perpetuating a cycle in how he was treated (sheltered, stifled, and locked away) on the closest thing he has to a child of his own. only instead of out of control and abuse, he makes that mistake out of love. again none of that is expanded upon in the episode, but this episode lays the GROUNDWORK for it, and i love that. it’s also really good how devoted he is to staying by its side, how easily he truces with team twerp and turns on his teammates for wanting to rob his estate & fuck everything up, and just how good of a person he is in this episode, owning up to his lies and staying true to himself. i rly think this episode is the rawest we ever get james? like this is him at heart, no facades, no fronts, just james as he is. i love that. i love him.
3. SM058/Fighting Back the Tears! - This episode belongs more to Mareanie than it does to James but upon rewatching it a few times I just gotta say: its good. Esp on a second rewatch. Mareanie does a lot of Questionable Things in the beginning of this episode u don’t understand until you know her backstory, and then once you do it hits twice as hard. Her and James have so many moments of quiet love together, talking one on one, and the way he speaks to her is with so much softness in his voice it quite literally rots my teeth out of my skull. There’s a lot of subtle callbacks to James’ own backstory that I’m downright ANGRY weren’t explored (Mareanie and James have the same backstory. They were both wronged by their first love and found a second chance in a partner who resembles those first loves. Despite being a direct parallel, THIS IS NEVER MENTIONED OR DISCUSSED??? POKEANI???) Oh and there’s whump & h/c. James is deathly poisoned at one point and his friends are at his bedside looking after him while he deliriously makes poor life choices. Also James fights a tentacruel w/ his bare fists. Also there’s a slutty bisexual crown of thorns starfish in this episode. a+. good episode. 
2. DP146/Dressed for Jess Success! - i’ll do the horny part first: fetish brain like sick girl oughghhghhhg jessie hot sexy. K ANYWAYS this is my second fave episode of all time. mostly for horny reasons but theres a lot of good shit happening that isn’t that. despite only ever posting abt jessie when i liveblog this episode it’s actually an episode about james and meowth and jessie doesn’t do much besides scream at her tv while on a lot of cold medicine. this episode is fucking hysterical to me because james is really really good at being in disguise as any old rando, melts into roles perfectly, and overall never sees any of that as a burden--but the SECOND he has to act as the literal woman he has spent the last 10+ years of his life with he freezes up and is like “I DONT KNOW WHAT IM DOING??? HELP” like he can’t fathom it. that is so fucking funny. like is he scared he’s gonna come home and jessie’s gonna shove him in a closet and scream at him for being ooc. the other thing thats good about this episode is james spends like 10 minutes slinking around the contest hall like “ughghghg im not a fucking coordinator meowth lets lose” and he then proceeds to eviscerate not only the competition but the literal heroine as well, i mean he just EVISCERATES dawn. he has almost full points when he beats her and she has NONE. he humiliates the poor girl. and he gets the loudest cheers the MC has ever heard. loud enough that jessie yells at him fsdghfsg “i don’t like that you as me got more applause than i as me!!!” LIKE JAMES IS SECRETLY A REALLY GOOD COORDINATOR... CAN WE PLEASE GET MORE OF JAMES IN CONTESTS. fuck i love this episode. did i mention jessie’s hot 
1. EP048/Holy Matrimony! - Like dude do I have to say any more about this episode... beyond being the quintessential Backstory Episode it has one of the most pivotal rocketshipping moments in it. The black comedy is so fucking good and makes you feel all kinds of weird for laughing and that is my favourite feeling of all. There’s a vileplume AND a growlithe, like thats a wombo combo of good pokemon. Everyone in the dub of this ep is blitzed off chaotic energy. Rachael Lillis does a steel magnolia accent for like 20 mins & they named her character after a biblical figure who gets eaten by wild dogs. I’m p sure Eric Stuart transcends his mortal form to make New Noises. This is the least objective part of this list because this is my favourite pokemon episode and I will take NO feedback or constructive criticism.
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Savin’s Answers from Twitter, Part 5!
Pretty much done with the backlog; this post covers tweets from November 2018 through May 2019
As always, tweets are in order from most to least recent, and answers may not 100% true/canon since things are bound to change during production of the sequel. Text is unedited save for formatting; in a few places I added [comments] for context.
Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4
Also: If you’re going to ask Savin something, please be respectful and appropriate. He’s a person just like you and me.
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@NekoItoi: Will the bluray be released for Region A or solely region B? As I really want to finally own Oban in hd
@EiffelSavin: The bluray will be crowdfunded and region free
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@Helloworld1012: Maybe U could get a adventures of young Aikka series funded
@EiffelSavin: Actually we're developping both a sequel and a spinof, which would reveal a lot about Aikka's past...
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[talking about rick]
@Antarasis: Pretty metalhead.  👍 And losing your ability to pursue your #1 passion is such a heavy hitting topic. Was interesting to see a character confronted with it. Especially to see an admirable character give in to anger because of helplessness and make him act unpleasant/unlikable.
@EiffelSavin: I agree. Characters that are not just plain black and white are very interresting to follow.
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@Helloworld1012: out of curiosity, Do U [Savin and Thomas] prefer the Eva & Jordan romantic pairing and prefer that Eva & Jordan be a couple or the Eva & Aikka romantic  pairing & prefer that Eva & Aikka become a couple? I heard from a discord chat that U both have different views in
‏@Helloworld1012: who Eva should end up with. And do Romantically pair Eva with one of them.
@EiffelSavin: I don't remember disagreeing with Thomas over this and would rather leave the choice to the audience - both relationships are important ! This being said, the question of who Eva likes most may resurface in the sequel, if we get to make it...
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@Xanidos43: is it still possible to get the newsletter? i would love to support and buy the blu ray upon release.
@EiffelSavin: There will be more newsletters to come. For now just register on the bluray page of the http://obanstarracers.com  website
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@Helloworld1012: Hey I’ve noticed for quite a while, that Aikka and Eva in the concept art physically look to be about the same age, please give us this one hint. Is the fact that Eva and Aikka look physically the same age in the concept art have something to do with the plot or OSR
@Helloworld1012: 2? Or is it just because you and @Thomasintokyo just wanted to show what Eva and Aikka could possible look like when their older?
@EiffelSavin: One possible direction for the sequel is for it to take place a few years after the original show. Hence the concept art. But this is still under discussion and would also depend on who finances the series
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@Antarasis: Can we have a show about poor Muir, haha? Oh god, if I'd have the time I'd so make a parody show about Muir. There should be Muirs in Skyrim instead of mudcrabs. And Muir should get a skin in FightCrab. x'D Aaah, the potential of Muir. Please don't commit suizide, little crab.
@EiffelSavin: I could easily imagine a series about the adventures of "young muir"(!) Not sure we could get it funded though ☺️
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@AldrenMcneal: Hi there! i recently watched an Oban Star Racers video and found out a potential sequel was in the works. i found your twitter and realized it was announced back in 2017. How much progress have you made since then? Do you have the story planned out? Thanks!‏
@EiffelSavin: The story is planned out but we need investors - and time as well, since we're all involved in other projects too. Hopefully a successful bluray release we'll help refocuss everyone's energy
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@Bfahome: I heard rumors in the past that there's a "full" version of Oban's English opening, "Never Say Never".  Are those rumors true and, if so, who would be the ones to have it?  Would it even exist still?
@EiffelSavin: I'm not sure about this. I think the only version I ever heard was the opening version. For your info our US partners felt very strongly about using that song.  I gave my OK because it was pretty catchy, even though the op credits were created to match Yoko Kanno's title song.
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@EiffelSavin: Thanks a lot to the 1000+ #obanstarracers fans who took the time to answer our little survey. Here's what you answered to one of the first question asked. Among the alien racers, it seems Spirit made quite an impression #animation #anime #surveys #jetix #nhkbs #toowam
@MattGiusti: The lack of Sul on this list is very sad.
@EiffelSavin;: Sul came right after and would certainly have fared better if the question was who's your favorite alien character. Bear in mind that the list of choices here included some of the main characters of the show, like Jordan and Aikka and that one could only give a single answer.
@rhodanum: I'm quite surprised at how high Spirit ranked (higher than Stan, Don and Maya!) and that Jordan ranked higher than Aikka. The latter is especially surprising, given the gigantic number of fanworks (fanart, fanfic) featuring Aikka or Aikka x Eva, compared to Jordan or Jordan x Eva
@EiffelSavin: Aikka ranked first in some territories but overall Jordan came first - among the voters at least. I would be interesting to see if female and male voters voted equally - or predominantly - for one or the other...
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@GabrielAubry2: What happened to Prince Aikka after he returns to Nourasia? Won’t the Crogs on the planet be angry at what he did on Oban?
@EiffelSavin: Good question indeed but bear in mind their leader crashed on Oban and that there were fierce rivalries between the rest of chiefs. This must have slowed them somehow. Plus there's a new Avatar! 🙂
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@RakkuBoi: ust took the survey. It's probably asking for too much but one idea I expressed was the possibility of including autographes. Maybe on the art cards that might be included? Your's or @Thomasintokyo would be AMAZING.
@EiffelSavin: Point noted 😉
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@kueekueeng: from a fan who's been waiting for years, is "The 2 Queens"  movie ever going to be released?‏
@EiffelSavin: Finding funding on the French market as proven more difficult than anticipated but we haven't given up and have also started working on an animated series adaptation, possibly with a more "radical" artistic direction. More news hopefully soon...
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@SonicMrgame2017: Which program you guys used for animation?
@EiffelSavin: Here are the programs the team used for the animation: Pencils (well sharpened), large and thin Erasers, and most important: thousands and thousands of sheets of Paper 😉
@SonicMrgame2017: Yeah, but, the animation was done in cels or you guys used some kind of digital ink? PD: Respects!!!! I love handrawn animation
@EiffelSavin: Oban used digital paint and compositing. When we produced the series it was the very last days of painted cells in Japan, where it lasted longer than in other countries. I think the last series that used painted cells was "Sazae-san". 🙂
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@quantum_cuboid: QUESTION. Can you give us any insight as to which characters will make a return in the OSR sequel? There were many good characters, and a few that make me wonder whatever happened to them!
@EiffelSavin: I'll give you one: Eva (!) 😉 For the rest I prefer to keep quiet for now but feel free to make suggestions ☺️
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[note: this thread is originally in French and I used Google Translate]
@supalinocelosu: So it was the authors directly who led the # ObanStarRacers
@ EiffelSavin: I think that should be the norm but apparently no ... I was also present during the English dubbing in Vancouver. But this time there was a director of English voices. I was commenting but not directly the direction of US actors
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@theinmaskedboy: Could you clarify a doubt sir? 1) What happened with him when he arrived on the earth, because at the end of the galactic race he did not mention again .. 2) There are some loose ends in history, like the crow .. Was he eliminated from the race? or just leave?
@EiffelSavin: Spirit did not make it to the final 3 so he was eliminated & returned to his home planet. Regarding Rick, his job was done so he went back home too. We had crazy plans of making a sequel with him starring as a private PI (!)  Who knows we may reuse that in 1 form or another
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@Taibhse_Designs: Now this is a beauty to see, any concept art for the whizzing arrow or other paint job ideas other than the bunny exist that never made it to print?
@EiffelSavin: yes. We did more than 10 paint job tests before going for the actual ones :) That certainly could be something for the new art book.
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@Taibhse_Designs: I have the original DVDs still in good condition with the cardboard sleeve, I atleast rewatch the entire series once a year and would love a Blu-ray version. Would love to see some stats on the ships like actual scale, measurements, or official heights of the characters.Taibhse Designs added,
@EiffelSavin: That could be a cool extra actually, or something to add to a new art book. If you join the Oban Bluray Project newsletter on http://obanstarracers.com  we'll soon ask you about the type of features and goodies you'd like to have.
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@TheRealZentron: The 1080p 4:3 version is the most crisp out of the three, but I like the cinematic scope of the 16:9, I just wish it was as crisp! Still, can't wait until the Blu-Ray comes out, hopefully it will be available to and playable in the UK!
@EiffelSavin: The bluray will be, for the first time, in the original rate of 24f/s and will be zone free‏
@TheRealZentron: That's great to hear Savin, thanks for the info! I'll sure to place my order once available, it'll sure be good watching OSR HD on my 70" 4K TV! Will the set also include the original Molly Star-Racer trailer in HD or the regular SD?
@EiffelSavin: I'm working on this. The pb is to get the rights to the music. In all cases it will be sd as it was produced that way but we'll try to upscale it in the best possible way from the best source available.
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@EiffelSavin: That was my notes, yes: Maya cut off from her family because of her choice to become a racer with Don, and Don having old parents that died early. Thus no grand parents for Eve to turn 2. But since we never go beyond that in the story, U can make up your own idea on backstory 🙂
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@LovesOban: Please tell me because I’ve been obsessing over this, but even though he wouldn’t be as skilled as Aikka, Cannan or a Nourasian knight in martial arts, & Even though in 2082 DW isn’t the most athletic & even though DW is more brains than brawn & doesn’t have brute strength, in
@EiffelSavin: Don Wei is not a "big man" but he's determined and has grown quite tough, at least since Maya's death. Do you remember the first time he meets Rick and his biker buddies in the middle of the desert?  He stands up to them pretty well, doesn't he?
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@HG_Alsmyr: are you going to have Thomas Romain join you for the Ōban sequel by chance?
@EiffelSavin: Yes. We've already started to collaborate on the sequel and spinoff projects. Working together again was very touching actually 🙂
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