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chic-beyond-the-wall-oc-acct · 4 months

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Targaryen ship names make good Targaryen names in general.

I was thinking about this the other day when i was making Abigail's last child and i was going to name her Daensa, i thought it was pretty and i couldn't remember where i had seen it, low and behold it's the Daenerys x Sansa ship name! And it got me thinking about how other ship names are good for character. Think about it, Rhaegon, Daemyra, Jonerys, Rhaenicent, like??? If those were the names of actual Targaryens i wouldn't blink an eye. I know that the reason they make good Targaryen names is because of course are made with Targaryen names but the urge to make characters with those names is through the roof!!

Side bar, my friend was telling me about this one artist called Rosehaerys, which i also think is an excellent Targaryen name, and their art is IMMACULATE, they have nsfw stuff as well which gave me whiplash when my friend showed me lol.

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fromtheseventhhell · 9 days

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When Dany and Arya are the first Targaryen/Stark duo to interact and people start seeing the light on Daenarya >>>>>>

#daenerys targeryan #arya stark #daenarya #deserves to be one of the top asoiaf ships but this fandom is full of small brained misogynists 😒#justice for my girls they deserve so much better then being misinterpreted by their haters!#just look at the material...the parallels! the foreshadowing! the shared values! the similar story beats!#them being literary mirrors to a doomed couple that haunts the narrative?1?1? literally no one is doing it like them!#two exiled princesses forced on the run after the murder of their families who both find themselves in braavos at one point #and then it all comes to a head when they MEET in Braavos?!#they're gonna bond over hating slavery wanting better for the smallfolk doling out karmic justice and being THE westerosi IT girls🫶🏾#has so much more flavor for me then jonerys I fear #shoutout to the five Daenarya shooters we're just big-brained and ahead of the curve

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a-secret-bolton-vampire · 7 months

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Something has been bugging me lately; why is it that so much of the ASOIAF fandom hates romance? Like, this is a problem I've noticed and it's honestly kind of weird. To be sure, George's view on what is romantic is, uh, dubious at best, but to outright be so against it the way I've seen some people be against it is quite bizarre, to say the least.

Rhaegar and Lyanna? Of course there's no romance there! Rhaegar clearly was just using Lyanna as a baby factory to produce a super prophecy child because that's all there is to his character!

Jon and Daenerys? They won't be getting together like that dumb show! And if they are, it will be purely a political marriage! No lovey dovey stuff there!. After all Dany likes "bad boys" (which somehow translates to "evil men") so why would she like a strong, assertive man like Jon? And why would Jon like her? Not like he likes strong fiery tempered women!

Those are the two biggest examples but there is more. Daemon Blackfyre and Daenerys Targaryen are more ambiguous since they are historical characters, but a lot of people are convinced it was 100% unrequited love.

I've even seen fans complain about the line from Barristan where he thinks about how Bittersteel and Bloodraven's rivalry over the affections of Shiera Seastar caused the Blackfyre Rebellions. Like sure it wasn't the only reason, but to think that jealousy and romance didn't have an effect on those rebellions is a bit weird.

Yes, I am aware these are some problematic pairings, not least of which because most of these are pretty incestuous. However, the complaints about these romances do not stem from a moral quandary. In the case of R+L, you see people calling Rhaegar a groomer and pedophile (see my post on him on my full thoughts there), but the majority of it is simply "well it's stupid because they told no one and caused a whole war, the selfish brats" (bonus points if someone specifically targets Lyanna).

Okay, setting aside the fact that, like with the Blackfyre Rebellions, Robert's Rebellion was caused by far more factors than their elopement, why does making it an abduction Rhaegar did simply for a magic messiah baby make it a better story than the fact these two were in love and desperate to escape situations they felt trapped in, leading to shortsighted decisions that had an unexpected affect on many people?

With Jon and Dany, the backlash is "but that's so cliche! George wouldn't do something as cliche as two of the biggest protagonists falling in love." As if George doesn't constantly engage with cliche storybeats as often or even more than he subverts them. Even when the evidence for the two getting together is literally so overwhelming that you'd need to be willfully ignorant to ignore the foreshadowing (plus the fact George literally said that their union is "the point of the series").

And again, I must ask; why is Jon and Dany marrying to secure a political alliance without any real love between them a better story than an epic, doomed romance between two people who have gone through such similar struggles and have such similar personalities? What does R+L=J even exist for if they are just a couple of convenience using each other?

I'm not saying you have to love and ship all these people together. Because we sometimes forget our little fandom bubble, most people are not okay with even fictional incest ships. That's okay. Sometimes it's not even incest ships, but again, that's okay! We are all different and have our preferences! Some might not even care much for romance.

But the way a lot of this is criticized doesn't read like that. It's always focusing on the negative aspects. Especially with Dany's love interests. I'm not a fan of Daario and Dany, personally, but it is a bit uncomfortable how she is targeted so heavily for thinking and getting horny about him. Like... let a girl be horny and infatuated? Lol, I don't know!

With Rhaegar and Lyanna, Prince Duncan the Small and Jenny of Oldstones, the "problem" is that their disregard for political betrothals and following their hearts makes them stupid monsters who are directly responsible for the deaths of thousands. That is absolutely not the way we should take these romances.

These doomed, tragic affairs aren't about how people are selfish. It's about the power of love. The way love makes people act rashly. The way love consumes someones thoughts and feelings. Love is powerful, it is transformative, transcending. That is the point. Even in spite of the death and chaos occurring around it, the love these people have for each other is something that cannot be broken.

I feel like the fandom has taken the wrong approach to this series tone and themes. I'm not George's biggest personal fan, to be quite honest, but he is a self described romantic. Turning Rhaegar from a lovestruck prince to a selfish crazed maniac is not romantic. Turning romance or potential romance into cold political maneuvers is not romantic.

The point of all this is that, yes, the world is dark. It's scary, it's cruel, unforgiving, and cold. But in that darkness, there are pockets of light that shine and make you feel safe, and warm, and happy. It makes you forget all the troubles around you. That light, that warmth, that love, is worth fighting for, even if it's all that is left, even if it doesn't last.

I am of course, slightly biased in my assessment, lmao. You could say that me, being a bisexual polyamorous transfemme, is maybe a bit of a big fan of romance and love! Yet, it still saddens me that people try to keep romances from just being romances, and try to make the story and world more bleak as a result. We already have Ramsay, Joffrey, Gregor, Euron, Randyll Tarly. We have people who use love against others for their own gain or outright reject it violently. We don't need more of that.

#asoiaf meta #asoiaf #jonerys #rhaegar x lyanna #asoiaf discourse #watch out i might be poking more at the fandom in later posts #i just have a lot of thoughts and need to put them down somewhere otherwise they drive me crazy

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evax3 · 9 months

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JON SNOW x DAENERYS TARGARYEN | THE VOW – REMIX | CHAPTER 6/8

Something Infinite

“Jon, stop. Relax.” He glances at her and finds her still smiling. “This is supposed to be fun.”

READ HERE | REF. TATTOO

JONERYS SULTRY SUMMER ’23: DAY 3, SIZZLING SUMMER NIGHTS (SKINNY DIPPING)

#jonerys #jon x dany #jon snow #daenerys targaryen #asoiaf fanart #game of thrones #a song of ice and fire #summer feeling #digital art #artists on tumblr #artistic nude #asoiaf fandom event #JonerysSultrySummer2023

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gh-0-stcup · 7 months

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It's tough being in the ASOIAF fandom while hating both Jonsa and Jonerys.

#and also loving both sansa and daenerys #most of their fans on tumblr seem to ship them with jon #and also like to write essays bashing the other character #and their fans #it's rough and one of the things i hate most about the show is how the fandom on tumblr has been reduced to a years long ship war #anti jonerys #anti jonsa #it'd be nice to see book theories that aren't based around one of these ships again #asoiaf

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asongofstarkandtargaryen · 8 months

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One of the most sexist opinions snowstorm antis have is that Jon won't like Dany because she has been married before ( and had a lover) and therefore she's ~not pure enough~.

First of all, Jon had no problem falling for the more experienced ( in love matters) Ygritte and alao fancy Val who also had a lover before.

And more importantly, why is it okay for men to have former lovers ( like Jon has) but women have to remain virgins until they found their true love. Some of you sound like you are stuck on early 20th century, maybe even earlier.

#jon snow #daenerys targaryen #got dumb fandom #jonerys #valyrianscrolls #a post of ice and fire #a post of salt and salt

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thevillainsfangirl · 2 months

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Yes, I will complain about fandom bitches complaining about stuff I enjoy with ships and characters in cases where their complaining is directly affecting what content I get!

#ESPECIALLY antis! 🙃#harley quinn #jarley #joker x harley #scream #sindel #mk sindel #riverdale #asoiaf #hotd #jaime x cersei #jonerys #daemyra #helaegon #aegond #jaegon #maxicest #fandom bs #txt

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ashleyfanfic · 8 months

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Thank you for the NSFW recs! When you have the time, I would love to hear your favourite Jonerys slowburn fics 🔥

Oh slow burn. Alright, so full confession, I usually don't have the time for slow burn. It's infuriating sometimes because I'm like FUCKING KISS EACH OTHER and then they don't and it makes my anxiety fucking sky rocket!

BUUUUUT that isn't to say that there aren't fics out there that nail it to me. This is a small list of fics off the top of my head. Granted, most of these are modern AU because I guess, as a whole, this fandom just decided we're just gonna make them fuck right off the bat cause they both deserve it. I mean, there are a few that canon divergent - but show/book Jon/Dany deserved to fuck each other until they collapse. So, with that in mind, here they are in no particular order: (M for modern AU - C for canon divergent) Westeros' Most Eligible Bachelor by @muttpeeta - M After one too many public scandals, Prince Jon Targaryen agrees to be the new star of "Westeros' Most Eligible Bachelor." He just wants to clean up his act and change the public's perception of him as the black sheep of the family, but he might just get more than he bargained for. Enter contestant: Daenerys Targaryen. His aunt.

You Can Never Be Mine by @muttpeeta - C Jon Snow knows it's wrong to covet what his brother has. He's never begrudged Robb Stark his title or his claim as the heir to Winterfell. But when Daenerys is taken in as Lord Stark's ward and betrothed to Robb, Jon's honor is tested in a way he never expected.

Desirable Business by @dracoignisworld and @dragonanddirewolf - M - In 1960's New York, creative director Jon Snow is faced with a challenge. His new secretary Daenerys is everything he is not; kind, friendly and innocent. With her around the office, he finds it hard to distinguish between reality and his fantasies. There can be consequences to desiring someone you should not have.

Written in the Scars on This Heart by @jalenmara and @notpmahlem - M - Daenerys Targaryen, supermodel and face of House Targaryen, a rising star in the world of Fashion, is commonly known as the most beautiful woman in the world. And someone wants her dead. Jon Snow, running from the ghosts of his own past, lands the job any man would kill for— protecting her. But can he protect his own heart from her?

Where the Wild Things Are by @stilesssolo - M - Daenerys Targaryen has fought tooth and nail to get to the high-ranking position she has at Tyrell Outdoor Recreational Equipment, Inc, doing everything within her power to help the planet along the way. Jon Snow has a dog with over two million instagram followers, despite the fact that he can't figure out how to work the app to save his life. When sales drop enough to threaten Tyrell's environment-saving programs, Daenerys is determined to find influencers that can turn the tides for her company. And she has her eye on Jon. Or, well— technically, Ghost.

Her Life, Her Death by magicmoon11 - C - Swayed by the powerful words of a dying queen, Stannis Baratheon takes in baby Daenerys Targaryen as his ward. In the North, Eddard Stark is ordered to raise Jon Snow to wed and dishonor the Targaryen princess, by bringing bastard blood into her line, and ending the Dragons forever. Across the continent, and across the Narrow Sea, the wheel continues to turn, and the Great Game commences. Thus begins a series of events that would change the fate of Westeros forever. Familial relationship between gruff Stannis and his ward. Eventual Jon x Dany.

The Oasis - @fierypen37 - M - With uptight and stressed CEO Daenerys Targaryen's regular masseur on leave, she has to make do with the replacement Jon Snow. Relaxation is not something she can find with his hands on her. Too bad he doesn't feel the same. Except unbeknownst to her, he definitely does. When a threat on her life pushes them together, they must both learn to deal with their growing feelings.

#jonerys #jonerys slow burn #jonerys fic recs #fan fiction is the lifeblood of fandom

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miss-celestia13 · 7 months

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An updated list of all my stories. The old list was looking too messy, so I made another! Every story can also be found on Archive of Our Own and Wattpad, if you prefer to read there. Thank you ❤️

Game of Thrones - Ongoing Longfic

I Am Not a Woman, I’m a God - Ao3

I Am Not a Woman, I’m a God - Wattpad

A Jonerys love story and my attempt at a fix it fic. From Daenerys’ POV. 212k words and 31 chapters so far. Smutty and indulgent.

Duskwood Stories

Completed Jake x OFMC Longfic

Marked Me Like a Bloodstain - Ao3

Marked Me Like a Bloodstain - Wattpad

Explicitly romantic and decadent. Happy ending. Alternative ending to the game and a different villain. 289k words and 37 chapters.

Paper Rings & Dirty Dreams - Ao3

Paper Rings & Dirty Dreams - Wattpad

Sequel to Marked Me Like a Bloodstain. Romantic, smut, and chaos filled comedy.

One Shots

Jake x MC - Smut

Watch the Bed Burn

Heaven Knows

Truth or Dare?

Drippin’ Like Honey

Good Girl

For Your Entertainment

I Can See You - Bodyguard AU Part One

Meet Me Tonight - Part Two

Jake x MC - Fluff

Everything Has Changed

Sweeter Than Fiction

Silver and Gold

Begin Again

Mastermind

Richy x MC - Dark Comedy Romance

Run Towards the Monster

Kiss With a Fist

Flesh & Blood

Devil in Paradise

Smutty toxic romance. Richy and my MC, Aylin, are diabolical soulmates.

Dan x MC Fluffy First Date

Strangeness and Charm

Jonerys Smut One Shots

Take me, I need you in my Bloodstream

You’re the King, Baby, I’m your Queen

The sweat in your eyes, the blood in your veins are listening to me

‘Tis the Damn Season

Say Don’t Go - Canon Era

Wool to Brave the Seasons - Modern Au - Complete

A fluffy, funny, and smutty Winter themed story. Four chapters, 30k words.

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Miss_Celestia13 Ao3 Account

Miss_Celestia13 Wattpad Account

Original Stories

Witchcraft & Whiskers - Urban Fantasy Romance

Flesh & Fire - Smut Shots

Frightful Fables - Short Story

I hope you enjoy my silly little stories! Thank you for your time 🥰❤️

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aegor-bamfsteel · 8 months

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1 and 3 for the salty ask game

What OTP(s) in your fandom do you just not get?

I’ve been in the ASOIAF fandom long enough that even though I NOTP some popular OTPs (Sánsán, Jàime/Brienne, J0nerys), I’ve read about why people like them and can understand their POV. If I had to choose which I don’t get, it would be J0nerys, due to not interacting in the books but being treated as inevitable in some circles, superficial reading of the characters to make it work, and the disastrous writing of the show ending in Jon murdering her (if I was a shipper, one half of my pairing killing the other would turn me off of it for good. Unless it was Greek mythology fandom. Maybe.)

3. Have you ever unfollowed someone over a fandom opinion?

I have unfollowed someone (what I believe was) an incorrect opinion about a type of cheese. So yes, I’ve unfollowed people for a variety of seemingly superficial reasons, including fandom opinions I disagree with.

#ask #personal #fandom critical #anti jonerys

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darklinaforever · 4 months

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Wait, wait ! Are there people who count Jon & Sansa (Jonsa) as Aragorn and Arwen's relationship ?!

WTF ?!

First of all, I'm not a big fan of Aragorn and Arwen, (I mean... normal, since Arwen isn't really a character in the book and she and Aragorn are basically Beren and Luthien 2.0 but less good) even if they are okay, and for once, I find that the film has sublimated their relationship.

(While for Faramir & Eowyn, or Farawyn if you prefer, it was reduced, which really annoys me…)

But the fact is that… Aragorn and Arwen is a well-written canonical romantic relationship, and Jonsa is pure fanon that won't never happen displeases the fans) !

Like… WTF ?!

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fromtheseventhhell · 8 months

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What do you think about *these* people hating targaryens but constantly posting metas on how targ couples are “foreshadowing” their ship? They even watch the show about the very same house they despise so much expecting for the “hints and clues” to jump out and knock them off the feet, truly believing it’s done for them only. What is this mental illness called?

It's a shot of chronic delusion with a fanon chaser. What's really funny is that it's them acknowledging how relevant and important the Targaryens are, they just aren't willing to consciously admit it. "Targaryens are evil, mad and doomed to die" but all of a sudden their fave having parallels with a Targaryen means they're destined to be the perfect ruler and live happily ever after 😭. Certain stans just want to anchor their fave/ship to other story elements because they're desperate for any scrap of validity. The story itself sure isn't giving them anything

#ask #anon #/I think these characters who barely think of each other are destined to fall in love...here are some forced parallels from characters who #have nothing to do with them in any way to prove it!/ and then these people want to turn around and act like Jonerys has no content 😭#logic is not big in this fandom

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literatureylair · 11 months

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I will bathe you with my tears, each drop , testament to the depths of my affection.

~Literatureylair

#jon snow #daenerys targeryan #jonerys #game of thrones #quotes #poetry #books & libraries #dark acadamia quotes #love poem #reylo edit #reylo fandom #reylo

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haveyoureadthisfanfic · 2 months

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Summary: Humanity failed to stop the Night King and his legion of undead until it was too late. The displeased Gods decide it should take a greater role in the fate of humanity and wind back to a time before the world fell apart. Jon Snow, the Prince Who Was Promised, and Jaime Lannister are sent back to prevent The War of the Five Kings and unite Westeros under a single banner to avoid a terrible fate. Even with the advantage of hindsight, things never go as planned.

Author: Priestess_of_Groove

#official fic poll #haveyoureadthisfic #fanfiction #pollblr #fanfic #internet culture #fandom culture #tumblr polls #fandom poll #The Dragon's Roar #game of thrones #got #Braime #Jonerys

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agentrouka-blog · 1 year

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I randomly decided to go through the general J*n Sn*w tag and lmfao it's like the same 10 Jonerice and Jonria stans with their ice cold takes but I saw one of them say that they couldn't wait to see Jon, Dani, and Aria to "team up" and be best buddies in the books and I just lmaooooooo. These people really think they are reading a YA book crossed with an MCU Disney plus tv show BUT only for their fav characters. Everyone else? Especially the characters they hate? It's death, destruction, and grimdark all the way. Key-5ers thinking GRRM will end the series, if he ever does, with the "Key 5" all being best buddies that easily defeat the Others and then go on to plan Jonerice's wedding is nothing short of hysterical.

"A Song of Five Underdogs Defeating A Nebulous Threat Against Mankind And Never Facing Consequences For Murder Or Rape Because They Had A Tough Childhood So They Had Their Reasons Okay? This Is Grey-On-Grey Morality, There Is No Place For Your Nitpicking and Slavery Apologism or Ableism or Classism. If they were sad as a kid or someone called them ugly once they GET TO KILL OKAY????!"

A riveting exploration of how those kids you envied in highschool will finally get what's coming to them and you'll be crowned prom queen of the North*.

(* to quote @catelynhightower)

#anti asoiaf fandom #anti jonerys

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buttertheflame · 5 months

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A List of Things To Come

*a long post*

I was on hiatus for about 5 years, but I think it's worth the risk of coming back. These are some thoughts and hot takes I've had since then up to now. My professional life is busy, but when I have the time, I'll share. Anyone interested?

Here's a preview, categorized by fandom:

A Song of Ice and Fire:

For asoiaf canon, I’ll speculate on what Jon and Val could have been, and what they could have had together, if he had not kicked the bucket. I’ll also contrast it with Jon's dreams of a life with her, and why he put the torch to it. :( Because of the root of her dislike of Mel and Shireen, I figure she will not be pleased with un-Jon.

Game of Thrones:

In GoT canon, Jon did not love Dany as much as the script suggested he would. In fact, they both failed to take responsibility for the other person. I haven't seen anyone make a statement like this before. (The PTSD is real.) But fic writers did pick up on this and tried to fix it in canon compliant stories, with a lot of success.

Supernatural:

In Supernatural s12-s14, Mary should have found her sons to be way more weird, specifically with each other. But given what we see of her in s6, her characterization is consistent. She would have, and did, ignore the red flags for an idea of family.

I’ll share approving thoughts on Sam and Dean's relationship in the final seasons, disapproving thoughts on the final season of Supernatural, and how I speculated it would either go Gencest or Destiel. We know what happened. No one walked away happy and I think the fandom was all the better for it.

Destiel is not canon. It only became a one-sided love confession. (I know there's a lot of speculation on what happened b/w the studio, the writer's room and the post-production team. Idc. Not gonna touch it.) Thoughts on how I think SPN could have made Destiel go 100% canon involve tweaking the execution and balancing out the themes of Sam and Eileen's love story, the big bad plot, and Dean and Cas's 'love' story.

Outlander:

Outlander (show-only) thoughts, foremost on Roger Mackenzie. He has vexed me from the first time he appeared on screen. I love him dearly, but he vexes me, for how he consistently affects the plot and how that defines his role among the main cast. Later on, I'll run through my favorite moments, episodes and narrative arcs.

Miscellaneous:

I'll share a list of favorite ship-centric fics I've collected over many, many, many years. (Gotta be over 10 years' worth). Along with blurbs that explain my recommendation in a non-spoilery way. Fandoms include: Harry Potter, LOTR, Supernatural, The Walking Dead, ASOIAF, Game of Thrones, Star Wars (Sequel Trilogy), The Flash, Shadowhunters [look away book fans <3], Hannibal (show-only).

I'll also post drafts of fics I never got right and never finished. Mostly GoT-canon divergent Jon/Dany fics.

Most importantly, some very dear friends have encouraged me to vent and hype up my Jonerys fic series "We Could Live Together" as I write it. It's GoT-canon divergent, but I alter some of what occurred before 6x09. Then the story re-enters book territory and moves toward ADOS conclusions. I'd also love to break down and discuss songs from the playlists when it strikes me.

This is the summary of Part 1, "A Long Way Home" (published):

After the Battle for Winterfell, Jon was captured by Bolton men then later found by Daenerys not far from Dragonstone. Their meeting blossoms into the most honest love--until Jon suddenly leaves for Winterfell, only to return to Dragonstone months later with more terrifying tales of dead men and Winter storms. When Daenerys chooses to send her armies north to fight the dead, all is certain but the matter of their bond. After the pain they'd endured, can they come together again? Or will separation be too powerful to overcome? *or* A romantic tale of choice and second chances.

This is the summary of Part 2, "Awake For Ever In Sweet Unrest" (in-progress and unpublished):

Winter has come and further fractured the realm. Yet Jon and Daenerys's betrothal and alliance is well known throughout the Seven Kingdoms. The secret that threatened to break them has made their love stronger, casting a fragrance of hope that draws to the last Targaryens all who seek refuge from political turmoil. Cersei Lannister has fled King's Landing in favor of establishing a bank in Lannisport, to guard against her deposition by the Iron Bank. Euron Greyjoy has set up a naval blockade at Oldtown, yet manages to beguile the Hightowers. And Walder Frey's sundown years threaten to pull his House into a civil war. From the Wall, Jon and Daenerys begin to wage war on the Others. Yet the age of wonder and terror, of gods and heroes, leads them and their enemies in the least expected ways. It begs the question: does all happen the way it must? *or* A romantic telling of the new War for the Dawn.

This is what I've been doing the past few years: working, (dating lol), re-reading the books and joining theory discussions on other sites. What touched my heart was readers asking for me to continue the fic series. Even as I considered it, I was conflicted. Since the show and book canon are so enmeshed, I think we were really vulnerable to being whipped and scored by D&D. But we all found ways to lick our wounds. I'm grateful we were able to become closer and stronger. I'm glad to be a part of it.

So that's my preview. If you've read this far, thank you. <3

There's more to come.

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