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martianbugsbunny · 6 months
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Me when Loki is alone and Mobius is heartbroken but Loki served the most cunt he could possibly have served in the process
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cloud-ya · 8 months
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Is it okay to ask why you don't like Elysia? Personally I don't really like her because she's a walking massive retcon who also undermined the efforts Herrscher of Reason made to rebel from the Will of Honkai
I love being asked why I hate elysia, it's like people falling for my infodump trap
so basically, first off her overfriendliness and ignorance of one's boundaries. that damn horn touching scene sickens me to no end, and even more the dialogue after that with raven joking out it while mei wants her not to talk about it. and elysia having the greatest fucking idea of announcing her success in crossing mei's boundaries via megaphone? dude, what the fuck. like, keep it to yourself. the only reason mei didn't kill her that time was because writers didn't want her to
second off it's her constant idealisation. wherever you see or go she's described as "flawless". flawlessness seems to be her only trait. okay, we got it first time, she's pink jesus so fucking flawless and beautiful and everyone loves her and trees are fucking singing for her like for a damn disney princess. y'know, in my discord server we had a talk about the whole lesbian jesus thing and we came to conclusion that elysia is what christians imagine jesus to be like and kallen is what jesus was more like. failed writing very much
speaking of writing, she seems to drain good writing out of everyone she's around. flamechasers have varying opinions about her, from love to hatred and distrust, but when she was about to sacrifice herself everyone was suddenly like "omg elysia so cool", even kalpas and mobius who are the most known for not liking her. I don't even fucking know what happened to mei, beside good writing she seems to have drained her off brain cells. what does herrscher of origin even do, what are its powers? if they don't plan on elaborating on that part before moving on to apho, I... it's just such lazy writing that tries to pass as some pseudo-wisdom. the answers mei came after to elysian realm? what answers, there's that pink elf and that's all that matters
another reason her writing is questionable is like,, she's said to have done something before current era started that was supposed to make CE herrschers docile, no? seems like mihoyo didn't think that one thoroughly because current era very much still had hostile herrschers. great retcon mihoyo, the plot has as many holes as roads in poland
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the-bi-fangirl-biatch · 6 months
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honestly, B-15 is amazing and deserves to be one of the leaders too. she has the heart to care about the people in the sacred timeline, but also the communication skills to work with people who don't necessarily agree with her, to having the competency and brain cells in being able to Do The Job. If there were 3 time keepers, b-15, loki and mobius, adeserve those places. they balance each other out amazingly.
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five-miles-over · 2 years
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It's Loki's World and We're All Just Living In It
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Pairings: President!Loki x reader
Summary: After having taken over the entire Western Hemisphere and calling it his "Midgard", your boss President Loki believes that he needs an excellent running mate for the upcoming elections. And who better a running mate than…his own variant?
President Loki commands the TVA, which is currently under the leadership of Agent Mobius, to bring the one variant that has managed to escape the president's radar. And your new job? Help the future vice president adjust to his new role.
Author's Note/Disclaimer: Since this takes place in New York, I'm using a few bits of American political jargon and briefly referencing the 2012 U.S. election. Please, please know that I'm only doing it just to give the reader an idea of how President Loki got his power. By no means is this meant to be a political statement, nor is it meant to offend any political party. It's just a fictitious scenario made purely for entertainment. 
That being said, this is my first time writing for President Loki. I hope you like it, and please feel free to leave constructive criticism. 
New York City - 2018
There was once a time when every country had their own ruler - Canada had a prime minister, while the United States and (almost) every country in South America had a president. It was a time when the Western Hemisphere wasn't a single continent known as Midgard, and the word was nothing but a word from Norse mythology that literally meant "Middle Earth".
The Battle of New York, which had taken place on May 4, 2012, was President Loki's first official victory. Not his first electoral victory, but his first victory as the leader of an army. Using something known as the Chitauri and a powerful scepter, Loki was able to make New York City fall at his feet. Literally. Almost no one in New York had even seen a Chitauri before , but by the end of the year, almost everyone with internet access believed in the existence of the Chitauri. Some even whispered that Loki threatened the most powerful voters with potential attacks from the Chitauri. 
But you knew that wasn't true. Anyone with half a brain cell knew that Loki won the American presidency through sheer charisma and a dash of Machiavellianism. And by convincing the American public that his party was the only one that would promise long-term happiness and satisfaction. But the real moment that led to his victory was when the National Broadcasting Company television network showed special coverage featuring endorsements for Loki given by the presidential candidates running against him. There was speculation among journalists and political analysts that the candidates were under some type of external influence - a form of coercion, if you will - though related rumors quickly faded. 
The next six years were nothing short of revolutionary. President Loki celebrated his victory with great pomp, relocated the president's office to New York City from its traditional place in Washington D.C., declared May 4 to be a national holiday known as Revolution Day, got married, introduced a group called the Time Variance Authority as his new personal police, and seduced the world leaders into "joining hands" with the United States. By 2015, nearly three years after Loki was elected as President of the United States, Loki was also the President of Mexico, Canada, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Brazil, Argentina, El Salvador, Haiti, Suriname, Guyana, and Greenland. (His long-time dream was to take over the British royal family one day, but that plan would require much more than honeyed words of diplomacy.)
2015 was also the time you joined President Loki's staff as one of his closest assistants. While growing up, you had fantasized about what it would be like to live and work in the city that never sleeps, but never in your wildest dreams did you think that you'd be employed by a president, let alone a politician. 
To say that working in Loki Towers was challenging would be an understatement. From eight in the morning to nearly five-thirty at night, you were constantly on your feet delivering coffee to some of Loki's "senators" (who were former members of S.H.I.E.L.D.), sending emails to set up some of the President's appointments, planning decadent parties with no budget limit (aka orgies) for the President's delight, and attending political discussions with the President himself. 
While the job paid well, almost a hundred American dollars per hour, it wasn't always the most dignified. Like today's encounter:
"Mister President?" You knocked on a smooth mahogany door belonging to the president's office. "Mister President?"
"Open, don't take too long." 
You opened the door to find President Loki sitting on his ebony throne…with a model with a pixie cut, wearing a black mini pencil skirt and a green bralette with diamonds, straddling his hips. 
"I've been learning the secrets of Victoria," Loki purred, running his pale hand along the backside of the model. With a single tug, he untied the knot tying her bralette from behind.  
Not flinching, you took a sharp breath instead. "Agent Mobius from The Time Variance Authority is in the lobby waiting for you."
"Wait five minutes. Then send him in."
You swiftly closed the door with a slam, and a smirk formed upon Loki's lips. Something told you that he enjoyed getting under your skin from time to time. But it was pretty hard to hate him. 
President Loki, even though he partied more than any other president in history, was a surprisingly good president. He was able to clear every country's debt, reduce the price of petrol, and even prevent the U.S. from entering a new recession. However, he was fully conscious of the five assassination attempts against him and the members of the government who envied his political success. As King Henry IV would say, "uneasy lies the head that wears a crown." Yes, that's right. President Loki wore a small crown with horns, which his haters called a 'symbol of Satanism' and a 'threat to democracy.' All they received in return was a maniacal laugh that made some of them wet their pants. The president knew they weren't worth his time, nor were they bound to live long.
Fifteen minutes after leaving Loki's personal office, you were seated at a long table in the center of a conference room. A man with salt-and-pepper hair held a few manila files in his hand, and stood at the head of the table while the president sat nearby. Soon, each and every seat was filled by Loki's campaign managers, a few trusted senators, and assistants like you.
President Loki cleared this throat and gave the room a smile. "I understand you all know why we've gathered here now."
The room murmured in agreement, and Loki silenced them by giving the screen on the wall a sharp tap.  "We have six more months until the next elections come, and my running mate has proven himself to be incompetent."
"Well, what would you expect when hiring an alligator to be your vice president, sir?" The man with salt-and-pepper hair chuckled. No one in the room joined in Mobius's quiet laughter.
"I certainly was not expecting to lose my right hand, Mobius." Loki held up a prosthetic hand that was shinier than most glass buildings were in the summertime. 
One of Loki's campaign managers, a tall man with shoulder-length blonde hair in a black suit, leaned forward. "We need to recruit someone quickly…perhaps the missus?"
"No, no. She's busy being angry at the world. How could she possibly be a vice president? I have a hard time getting her to show up on time to our parties." The president scoffed, earning laughter from the room. "I've decided to bring someone like-minded, obedient, intelligent, handsome, and full of mischief. Someone who will bring…variance to my campaign."
The campaign managers murmured in awe amongst themselves.
"His name is Loki as well," the president smugly said. "Which is precisely the reason why I've called Mr. Mobius, the head of the TVA, here today. He's going to explain how we'll bring Loki, or rather Mr. Laufeyson as we shall call him."
Mobius politely thanked the president before explaining to the rest of the room how the Time Variance Authority worked. The TVA worked to monitor the multiverse, pruning various timelines if they ever became too dangerous to humanity. And since there were branching timelines, each and every person had variants, or alternate versions of themselves. Under the new operation mandated by President Loki, the TVA was responsible for gathering variants of the president, or "Loki's" as they were collectively known. Some of the variants agreed to support President Loki, while others violently opposed him.
But until now, there was one variant who'd managed to go unnoticed, mainly because this variant hadn't caused much damage except for a few shenanigans on Midgard. And because this variant was busy constantly fighting the Avengers. 
"Since Mr. President believes that Mr. Laufeyson is capable of being a suitable running mate, we are going to bring him from his timeline into our timeline."
"Couldn't have said it better myself, Mobius." President Loki gestured for Mobius to be seated.
You raised your hand, and leaned in closer. "But wouldn't doing this cause a Nexus event, since Mr. Laufeyson isn't meant to come into contact with us?"
"Then we create a tiny little multiverse of our own," President Loki simply said. "Nothing to worry your pretty little head about."
"We'll keep an eye on the variant, and the TVA - " Mobius quickly paused, noticing the words he'd just said. "I mean, Mr. President here has the final say, but the TVA will keep an eye on him. Make sure he doesn't do too much damage to the Sacred Timeline."
"The Sacred Timeline can go to hell for all I care." President Loki dismissed. "Send a group of your strongest Timekeepers, Mobius. We need to take him from his timeline before he's imprisoned in Asgard. While he's still in New York with the Tesseract."
"I can have them sent in fifteen minutes, Mr. President." Mobius stood up from the table, gathering his files.
President Loki turned to you. "And you, darling. I'm placing you in charge of my vice president's welfare once he arrives here."
"Like a bodyguard?" You raised an eyebrow.
"No, sweet darling." The president shook his head. "You'll show him around, make sure he's settled in his apartment, and look after his schedule."
"So you want me to be his assistant too."
"I want you do to do as I tell you," President Loki commanded.
"Of course, Mr. President." You rose from the table, and the president's blue eyes twinkled with a dark gleam.
President Loki triumphantly kissed the TVA agent's lips, cupping Mobius's cheeks. "We are on the edge of a golden world!"
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fickit-lokiseriesau · 10 months
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TRIAL ONE TEST REPORT
SUBJECT: L0286
Pre-treatment Notes: L0286 appears anxious and confused, but has not been combative. Medical examinations indicate that L0286 is in relatively healthy physical conditions, while blood tests indicate an average level of aptitude for magic. Subject is 1.8 meters tall, weighs 238 kg, and is of average build for a humanoid male.
Treatment administered: prototype A1
Results: Subject L0286's skin became discolored with patches of dark gray, particularly near the major arteries. Bone and muscle tissue began to display rapid growth and broke through the skin in several areas on the limbs, torso, and face. L0286's blood was unable to form sufficient clots to stop the bleeding caused by its skin bursting. Any skin grafts administered to L0286 were quickly rejected by its body.
Current status: Deceased
Autopsy Notes: The subject's internal organs and tissues had all turned black, and multiple organs showed signs of failure. Most of the bones had become deformed, with the bone marrow within also found to be deformed. Many bones also display abnormal growths not unlike those found in many cases of bone cancers. The subject's brain has been removed for further study.
Recommendations: Prototype treatment A1 appears to alter subjects' DNA and immune response. More testing on A1's effects on humanoid tissues may provide more information on the mechanism and the extent to which A1 alters Jotunn DNA and blood cell production. Administering A1 in smaller amounts over an extended period of time may also help to reduce the risks of uncontrollable tissue growth.
Submitted to: Agent Mobius M. Mobius
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lailyn · 11 months
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A Face In The Crowd, Chapter 4
Loki may be sedated, but his slumber was hardly peaceful, as evidenced by the constant mumbling and jerking of his limbs. Vincent had half a mind to strap his subject to the table lest he fell to the floor from whatever battle he was fighting in his sleep.
Music, Vincent thought suddenly. Mothers all across the universe sang lullabies to their children, it would make sense that music would help.
But what to play? Choosing music was always an intuitive choice, but now that Vincent was choosing for someone else, it had become the most difficult of conundrums. 
Vincent did not know anything about Loki’s taste in music, or if the god even liked music at all; Loki certainly was critical about Vincent’s last playlist. 
There must be something in his collection that appealed to all creation, man or alien.
Then he found it: Gustav Holst’s The Planets. 
It was the perfect choice. No other composer ever came close to expressing such love and awe for the cosmos as deeply and as emotionally as Gustav. If there was something to love about, and in Loki, Gustav would find it. 
The first movement was Mars, the Bringer of War. Despite it being his favourite, his companion on many, many monotonous days, it seemed a questionable choice given the circumstances. 
After some hesitation, Vincent decided to skip it. He tried not to think about why he was being so accommodating toward a lowly Variant, beyond the clinical need to provide an optimal clinical environment for an extraterrestrial brain wave tracing. 
The second movement of the orchestral suite soon filled the treatment room, its acoustics tranquil and calming. 
Venus, the Bringer of Peace.
Perfect, Vincent thought. 
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“Agent Mobius. May I have a moment of your time?”
“Oh no…” Mobius groaned at the sight of the man marching down the hall. His hand flew to his forehead. “What has he done now?” 
“If you mean your pet…" Vincent drawled, "It’s not so much what he’s done that’s the problem, but what’s been done to him.”
Mobius stopped massaging his head. “Meaning?"
“He’s under a lot of stress,” Vincent said. “And I mean, a lot.”
“Doctor, this is Loki we’re talking about," Mobius reminded him. "Stressed is his default setting.” 
“He’s not in the best of shape, I’ll give you that,” Vincent said. “But - ”
“Wait,” Mobius interrupted. “If you’re here then where's Loki? Did you take him back to his cell? You were supposed to inform me once you’re done.”
“Done? Far from it,” Vincent said, shaking his head. “We’ve barely started, which is what I came to talk to you about.”
“You left him in the lab? Alone?” Mobius exclaimed. “Damn it, Strange, you know better than that!”
“It’s not like he’s going anywhere,” Vincent said with a nonchalant shrug. “He’s not exactly conscious.” 
Alarm turned to abject concern. “Loki's unconscious? What the hell happened?”
“Let me rephrase that,” Vincent said hurriedly, “He’s fine. I simply put him to sleep." 
Though Mobius' expression remained carefully schooled, Vincent felt called to defend himself. "I had to.”
“Vincent, what is going on?” Mobius asked. "Did he try to attack you again?"
Vincent raked a hand through his hair, suddenly acutely aware of his rumpled appearance. "It was nothing I couldn't handle."
"I thought it was a routine EEG session."
"Nothing is ever routine with Loki, is it?”
“Another one of your rhetorical questions, Doctor?”
“My next one isn’t,” Vincent fixed Mobius with a hard, probing stare. "Loki seemed out of sorts today. I was wondering if you could tell me why?"
Mobius was quiet for a while. "Out of sorts how?"
"On edge, like the smallest thing could set him off." Which it did, Vincent added silently.
The thoughtful silence lingered, uneasiness creeping in as seconds passed. 
"You don't look surprised," Vincent said, careful to keep any accusation out of his remark.
“Loki’s unpredictable. Who knows what he’s thinking?”
"You," Vincent said bluntly. "You're the Loki expert. And you were also the last one to talk to him."
“Of course I was. No one else talks to him.”
“Is there something you’re keeping from your dear Variant?”
Mobius laughed. “Now what made you say something like that?”
Vincent looked pointedly at the fat bundle of folders Mobius was carrying. “Doing research all by yourself?” 
“I…don’t see how that’s any of your business.” 
“I have made it my business. What is the TVA planning to do with him?”
Mobius pursed his lips, looking thoughtful. 
“Careful, Doctor," he cautioned lightly. "Your compassion is starting to show.”
“I like him. He’s entertaining," Vincent deadpanned. He took a step closer toward the increasingly wary analyst. “But so were all the Lokis before him, in their own way. So why is this one still alive?”
“How does it go, ‘Ours is not to question why’?”
“ 'Theirs not to reason why, theirs but to do and die',” Vincent corrected indignantly. 
"Huh. I suppose you're right." Mobius' eyes disappeared behind his smile. “You’re the Shakespeare fanatic.”
“It’s Tennyson,” Vincent said, his frustration growing by the second. “You're avoiding the question, Mobius.” 
Mobius drew in a measured breath, taking his time to choose his words, as one must. “He is on his last legs.”
“And what happens if he fails?”
“You know the answer to that, Doctor.” 
Mobius watched the myriad of expressions cross the doctor's face. “You shouldn’t trust him, you know."
“I don’t trust Loki as far as I can throw him,” Vincent said swiftly. "I am simply exercising my duty of care."
Being all too versed in the effects Loki could have on people, Mobius could only roll his eyes. "Yeah, you tell yourself that."
"What is your problem with me, Agent Mobius?"
"I can't read you," Mobius said flatly. "You're as clear as mud, and frankly, I don't trust you."
"Wow." Vincent stared at the analyst with new eyes. "How long have you had that one in the barrel?"
Mobius shrugged. "It only just came up."
"Right," Vincent said with a snort. “You’re not as convincing as you think.”
"Wasn't trying to be. But I wouldn't worry about it," Mobius said. "My reservation about you is entirely professional."
Vincent let out an incredulous laugh. "I am not a spy, if that's what you're implying."
"That's…exactly what a spy would say."
"Is it? Clearly I don't have what it takes to be one."
"What exactly do you want, Doctor?" Mobius asked in exasperation.
"I want to help."
"Why?"
Instantly, Loki's battered, haunted face flashed through Vincent's mind.  Set me free.
Kill me.
Vincent forced the images out of his head, but transference won out, bleeding desperation into his plea. 
"The faster you find the Variant, the better."
Suddenly Mobius looked every inch of his years. "Just what do you think I've been doing, Vincent?" 
"How are you choosing your apocalypses?" 
"You don't have the clearance, Doc, you know that."
"How?" Vincent pressed.
“I don’t think you understand what’s at stake here,” Mobius said tightly. "I follow orders, just like you."
"Loki took an arrow for you."
"I am his ticket to staying alive," Mobius said with no trace of arrogance. "And he was trying to get into the Time Keepers' good - "
"It was poisoned. And he took it anyway," Vincent growled. 
Mobius paled.
"If there was one figure in history who loved his poisons, it was King Mithridates of Pontus," Vincent said, recalling what Loki had shared about his childhood fascination. “Loki knew more than he was letting on.”
He watched Mobius' throat bob up and down, but felt no satisfaction.
"Sounds like you don't know Loki all that well, Agent Mobius."
"Come on, Doctor. This is Loki we're talking about. He didn't do it to save me," Mobius said, finally tired of playing games. "He had an ulterior motive. We both know what it was."
Vincent felt an inexplicable rush of anger. "For someone so smart, you're incredibly off the mark."
They stared each other down, until they garnered suspicious looks from passing Minutemen. 
"If we're going to fight, can we take it somewhere else?" Mobius asked brightly. 
"Thought you'd never ask." Vincent turned on his heel and began to walk. "Come with me."
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“What’s with the music?”
“Music helps me work. The louder it is, the better.” 
“How can anyone sleep through this racket?” Mobius muttered, crouching down next to the bed. He poked Loki's face a few times. "Wow. He's really out, huh."
"Like a light."
"What did you give him?" Mobius asked suspiciously. 
"Nothing all that potent," Vincent murmured, skimming through Loki's vital signs and brain wave tracing on his monitor screen. "It's mostly exhaustion."
Satisfied with the readings, he turned off the music, cleared the table of clutter, and gestured for Mobius to sit. 
"No, thanks. I'm good."
Vincent would not take no for an answer, not when he was offering the only stool in the lab. "It swivels. It's really fun."
Mobius reluctantly obliged, albeit with a bemused expression. "You're very strange, you know that?"
"Thanks, I really don't hear that enough," Vincent said dryly. “I would offer you coffee, but it is cold and black.”
“Seriously, Doctor, I’m fine.”
"Great. Now where were we?"
Mobius shrugged. "Nowhere helpful. We might be colleagues, but I don't know what I can tell you that doesn't go against TVA policy."
"You don't need to go into detail. I'm only interested to know how you're choosing your next destination, besides depending on your usual Variance Energy surveillance reports."
"Well, we go through historical records and Loki would then stratify the apocalypses based on a combination of risks and resource availability," Mobius explained. "Which in turn will tell us how likely the Variant would stay in a particular place, for any length of time." 
Vincent tapped a finger against his coffee cup. "So you're saying that your main variable in your search is the level of comfort?" 
"Not comfort," Mobius said. "Survival capabilities. The Variant needs food, weapons, energy source, that sort of thing."
"Maybe you're looking in the wrong place."
Mobius heaved a weary sigh. "If you have a strong opinion you simply can't contain, I am more than happy to hear it." 
"Find the apocalypse that is the least comfortable," Vincent suggested. “Anywhere else, the Variant is just going to lay in wait and pick you off one by one.”
"Doctor, all apocalypses are uncomfortable," Mobius said incredulously. "Deadly, even."
"Least comfortable for you," Vincent clarified. "You and your men."
Mobius blinked owlishly at him. “I hate to admit it, but you’ve lost me.”
“The answer lies in Loki's biology,” Vincent said triumphantly, like he had made some kind of grand discovery. 
“What about his biology?”
"Look. The Loki variants may not all look the same, but you won't find any of them treading lava in Pompeii or braving the Great Fire of 1910, Agent Mobius."
"That is stating the obvious,” Mobius muttered. He stole a glance at Loki to make sure he was still sleeping. “He’s a Jotun.”
"Exactly. Essentially, this means that there are places the Variant would thrive in, places we can't reach. Places that are inhospitable," Vincent stressed, wagging a finger back and forth, "- to us."
“You know, Doc…” Mobius drawled, eyes gleaming as understanding began to dawn on him. “I think you’re onto something here."
A grunting sound from the bed had them turn simultaneously.
"What…what is this?" Loki asked hoarsely. Clearly disoriented, he struggled against the restraints, muscles bulging with exertion. "No, no, no…"
Mobius and Vincent exchanged looks.
“Loki,” Mobius called. “Calm down.”
Loki’s gaze darted around the room, and when their eyes finally met, terror turned into confusion. “Who are you? What is this place?"
Mobius rose to his feet in alarm; there was no recognition in the cloudy green eyes at all. “What’s going on, Doc? Is this a side effect from the sedation?”
“I’m not sure,” Vincent said, shaking his head slowly. “Maybe.”
The doctor peeled himself from the wall and approached the bed with care. 
"Loki."
Loki's head whipped around at the sound of the doctor's voice. An ugly snarl contorted his face.
"You," Loki hissed, eyes wild and crazed. "You second-rate charlatan."
Without taking his eyes off Vincent, Loki called out roughly, “Thor, he's here again!"
He threw back his head, his bound arms and legs thrashing about, but there was no escape.  
"Thor, you bastard, where are you?" 
Vincent held out a placating hand, but in his psychosis, Loki shrank back in the bed and shrieked, "Don't touch me!" 
"It's okay," Vincent said soothingly. "You're okay." 
Against his better judgement, he reached down and gripped Loki's shoulder. 
The grounding effect from the touch was immediate; like fog lifting at dawn, the dazed look cleared from Loki's eyes. 
"Vincent?"
Vincent ignored the overfamiliar mode of address and repeated, "You're okay."
"I'm…okay." 
Awareness returned to Loki in overlapping memories; as they unravelled, piece by broken piece, the devastation mounted, stacked on layers of fury and grief. 
"I'm still here." 
He closed his eyes, but the tears seeped through all the same, bitter and hot. 
"I'm still here."
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liz-allyn · 3 years
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shudder, part 3/6 [agent mobius x gn!reader]
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You're undercover on a mission with the team, and Mobius' affinity for cowboy culture is making things unexpectedly difficult.
Part 1 | Part 2
Series Summary: Pre-Loki series. You are one of the most dangerous variants the TVA has ever recovered, but Mobius knows what makes you tick. Five times he made you shudder, and the one time you returned the favor.
Words: 1.6k
Chapter Warnings/Tags: Language, period/canon-typical gun violence, cowboy!Mobius (valid as a warning), mutual pining, flirting, fluffy and fun, at least one naughty thought.
A/N: let me know how you feel about longer chapters!
III.
The next time it happened, it was 1881, and you looked ridiculous.
Your clothes were too tight and the leather smelled like the cattle you were wearing was still alive. You didn’t get to pick your uniform for this mission, and since you were supposed to be deep undercover in an active timeline scenario where reset charges were not permitted, wearing a TVA-issued “Variant” jacket wasn’t going to work.
So now here you were, sweating your ass off in what would one-day become the Las Vegas desert, with your partner wearing a giant 10 gallon hat holding a revolver to your back. He definitely looked ridiculous, and you let him know that. But to be fair, it was almost... cute. Sort of.
Variant T-3051 was the target, this stagecoach robbery at gunpoint was the trap, a Skrull artifact locked in a safe was the bait. And you were technically also bait, disguised as the hapless hostage.
Mobius laid it on extra thick for this one; you were pretty sure he was enjoying himself.
“Easy does it, fellas,” he said in a honeyed voice. “Everyone move nice and slow.” With one hand on your shoulder and one hand on the gun trained on your back, he urged you forward with a gentle double-squeeze near your collarbone. It was a little secret communication between you two. “Keep your hands up where I can see ‘em, sweet thing.”
You struggled not to overtly roll your eyes as you lifted your hands slightly higher. You were 99% sure that Mobius had never held a revolver in his life and probably didn’t know how to fire one. The man’s idea of excitement is debating top historical time periods at lunch with you or fantasizing about jet skis. Or whatever he fantasizes about.
You glanced at the team around you, a mix of Minutemen led by B-15 - on a giant ass horse holding a rifle steady with only her eyes visible behind a black bandana, and a band of outlaw civilians who were T-minus 9 minutes from their destined massacre. The mission, simply, was that one of these people was not like the others.
U-91, also dressed as a Frontierland cast member, barked an order to hand over the chest or else. While he was monologuing on about whatever “else” was, you were scanning the group carefully waiting for the Skrull variant to reveal himself. Or you were, until—
“Hey,” you heard Mobius softly whisper behind you. You glanced to the side without turning around as he leaned closer to you. “Nice work infiltrating the gang.”
You could feel the heat of his breath on the side of your neck, and your stomach was doing something odd because of it.
“Okay,” you whispered back, trying not to move your lips. “Now is an inappropriate time to—”
“Where did you learn to ride a horse like that?” he exclaimed under his breath. “That was incredible.”
You weren’t sure if it was the anxiety of the situation, the harsh sun off the surrounding mountain range, or his praise that was making your skin flush.
“Um,” you softly replied, taken aback that he was actually impressed, “I mean- my aunt used to have this pony ride business. They’d do birthday parties—”
U-91 snapped at you, the talkative hostage, “Hey! I said shut up!”
Mobius reared back his grip on your shoulder and suddenly you crashed back into his chest. You cried out as he wrapped his arms like a vise around you.
“That’s right, I said shut your trap!” he hissed at you, playing to the audience around him.
It wasn’t often that he got to play the bad guy, but he gave it a valiant effort. You could feel the (hopefully) unloaded barrel against your back. He brought his other hand up to your throat, firmly squeezing, pulling a gasp from you.
He leaned into your body, pulling you tightly against him, as he dripped sugar-coated poison in your ear. “Not another peep outta you, ya hear?”
The first thought that sprang through your head was remembering your kink for authoritative bad boys.
Uh-oh, was the second, third, and fourth thought in your mind.
Your core was tight and you realized how heavily you were breathing when his grip loosened slightly from your throat, slipping down just a tad. You felt the warmth of his hand and resting on the skin of your chest. B-15 was already giving orders, but your brain wasn’t following the conversation anymore.
“Are you okay?” Mobius breathed in your ear. “I didn’t hurt you, did I?”
You slowly exhaled the heat of your breath, shaking your head ‘no’ and ‘yes’ for some reason. You could feel your pulse thrumming in your neck and you knew he could feel it too.
“Did I scare you?” he asked, inquisitively. You could hear the edge of a grin in his voice.
Your brow furrowed. “What?”
“Did I scare you just now?” Your eyes darted back to the group of outlaws as B-15 began to round them up. You were definitely supposed to be paying attention to the mission, but all you could think about was how heavy his hand was on your chest. He could curl you into himself if he wanted to.
If he wanted to, and if you wanted him to, he could keep playing cowboy outlaws. He could steal you away from your bed in the middle of the night. Or maybe he could turn you in for a bounty and visit you while you’re locked in a jail cell, making you do favors for him in exchange for freedom…
Uh-oh.
He leaned in a little closer. You could feel the shadow of his lips at the nape of your neck. “I felt you shudder just now... Did you get scared?”
“No!” You replied, almost too loudly.
“Oh. Are you cold?”
“What? Why?”
“I mean, if you’re trembling and it’s not because you’re cold, and it’s not because you’re frightened, there must be some kind of reason, right?”
Your face was burning. You’re pretty sure it’s the sun. Heat stroke. You’re dying, probably, definitely, maybe.
You gritted your teeth. “Why. Are. We. Talking about this?!”
“It’s not me, is it?” he replied coolly, like taking a sip of bourbon and lemonade on a hot day. You could hear the smirk on his lips. “You’re not intimidated by me, are you?” His cast his eyes over your rosy cheek with a satisfied gaze. “Maybe I make you a little... nervous?”
“WHA’THUH HELL—?” A terrified twang rang out and you both were snatched out of the clouds. You looked up to see a green-faced cowboy, cow-Skrull? Skrull-boy? - hostile variant reach into the the side holster of one of his outlaw posse. As soon as the Skrull had his hands on his “partner’s” weapon, he shot his partner through the back, killing him (just a few minutes before his time).
Variant T-3051 was fast. As B-15 fired her rifle, he was already pulling another stunned outlaw in front of him as a shield. T-3051 raised his gun towards B-15 and fired towards her horse. The animal raised up on its hind legs, bucking her off.
“Take cover!” Mobius ordered, pulling you down with him, but there wasn’t much around.
T-3051 fired a shot blindly, striking U-91 in the arm. He dropped to the ground and crawled in a one-arm dash for cover.
In the chaotic confusion and fear, the other outlaws drew their weapons and began to fire on the TVA team and each other.
The horse that B-15 was riding began to trot off, trampling a fleeing outlaw. B-15 struggled to grab her weapon off of the ground, but T-3051’s boot dropped down on the rifle, pinning it beneath his foot. She looked up to see the barrel of T-3051’s gun pointed at her, sights trained.
You had already grabbed the single-action revolver out of Mobius’ hand. He reached for you, but you leapt out of hiding with his gun raised high.
You shot the gun out of the variant’s hand before he could fire. Stunned, T-3051 dropped backwards onto the ground as the other handful of living outlaws turned their attention towards you. With one hand rapidly pulling back the hammer as the other hand steadied your aim and squeezed the trigger, you knocked them down like bowling pins.
A few shots later and it was over. T-3051 attempted to crawl towards the stagecoach, but B-15 leapt on his back and collared him. With a push of the button, he was frozen in time.
“Target acquired,” she stated into a radio, winded from the skirmish.
Mobius jogged towards U-91 as he pulled himself to his feet. He deftly inspected the Minuteman’s injury. “U-91 is injured,” he reported into his own communications device. “Alert the infirmary. B-15?”
“All clear,” she nodded.
Mobius’ eyes searched the area frantically until they rested on you. You walked up to the safe as B-15 retrieved the alien artifact - a twisty, metallic, (oddly) phallic-shaped thing.
You snorted. “This is the bomb that could rip a planet in half?” you asked incredulously.
If you didn’t know any better, you thought you saw the tiniest smile on B-15’s lips. She radioed in, “Artifact is secure.”
Grinning with an amused chuckle, you glanced over and spotted Mobius gazing at you proudly, watching the sun rise and set in your smile. You felt your cheeks flush, dropping your eyes to the ground and biting your lip. God, this was bad. He could not look at you like that.
“Incredible,” you heard him breathe.
Part 4
A/N: Did you like it? Reblog & let me know! Also seriously, I feel like my chapters are getting long. If that’s a bummer for anyone, please say so.
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starkownsmyuwus · 3 years
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Loki: you see, Thor and his friends have about five brain cells between them
Loki: Lady Sif has three at all times while Hogun has one
Loki: Volstagg has none, Fandral has half of one, and Thor thinks he has one, but it's actually just me whispering in his ear
Mobius: so where do you come into this?
Loki: obviously I have twice as many brain cells than any of them could hope to have combined
Sylvie: so like 12?
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tickle-bugs · 3 years
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One of a Kind
@amazingmsme I didn't want to post the thing you sent just because of the minor minor spoilers (I hate that we've lost a grip on spoiler culture on the internet so I am overcorrecting to keep my blog safe!) but what you sent was too goddamn cute. Have an unedited thing I wrote in one go. This takes place in the nebulous, non-existent gap between episode 5 and 6! I still haven't see the finale so....this is canon-adjacent-adjacent I guess. Enjoy!
Spoilers for the Loki series under the cut!
Cataloguing variants had always been time-consuming, but somehow Loki was making it take longer. Mobius knew that Loki should’ve gone through his stack already, especially with his reading speed, but he was just staring at one particular file and huffing at increasing volumes.
Alright, I’ll bite.
“I’d ask what you’re thinking about, but I know you’re gonna tell me.” Mobius thumbed through his file on another Loki, one who’d defected from Thanos in 2012 to join the Avengers. They’d pruned him pretty early. Mobius still regretted not being able to pick his brain for a little while longer.
“These other variants are incredible,” Loki scoffed.
“I agree.”
“I don’t understand it.” He stared at Mobius, brow furrowed, and alright, they clearly weren’t getting any more work done.
“Lokis tend to be extraordinary. It’s kinda a thing with you guys.” Mobius slid his files aside.
“Right, but in comparison, I am at the lower end of the bunch.” Loki frowned, gesturing as if this was a matter of grave importance.
“Okay, you lost me.” He folded his hands on the table and squinted at Loki.
“We have an alligator, an illusionist whose powers dwarfed my own, a child who killed Thor, a President--though I can’t fathom wanting to be a part of the American political system--and an enchantress. Those are the variants that we know about. So why am I here helping you?”
“You’re the best of the bunch.” The simplest and truest answer. Loki didn’t seem to buy it.
Mobius dragged his chair around the table and put it in front of Loki, effectively pinning him against the table--well, he could just stand up and walk away, but Mobius knew he wouldn’t. It was part of their thing.
“What are you doing?”
“Just gettin’ closer.” Mobius slotted his knees between Loki’s and pulled his chair as far in as it could go.
“I can see that. Why?”
“I just wanna be close to you, that’s all.” He gave his best convincing grin. Loki visibly softened.
“Loki, you are a genius with a good heart. You’re here because you are, at least in my book, a hero.” Mobius gave his knee a steady pat. Loki puffed with pride.
“Go on.”
“Wow, you are on a perfect swinging scale of narcissism. From self-deprecating to king of the world in no time flat.” Mobius laughed.
“Thank you.” Loki adjusted his tie, missing or ignoring everything but the word ‘perfect’. Mobius bit his lip on a chuckle--he really shouldn’t inflate an already dangerously-large ego, but Loki needed it, he thought. His confidence was all air, after all--smug posturing designed to fill the void of something genuine. Loki could use genuine, for a change.
He looked Loki up and down slowly, deliberately, and an absurd little idea took root in the back of his mind. It had worked in the Time Cell, so maybe...
“Why are you looking at me like that? Wh--Mobius. Mobius. Stop it.” Loki leaned back as much as he could. Mobius grinned and hovered his fingers just over Loki’s torso, dangerously close. Loki sucked in his stomach, looking frantically between Mobius’s hands and his face.
“This r-really isn’t necessary.” The wobbly smile on Loki’s lips told Mobius the exact opposite.
“Nervous giggler, huh?” Mobius twitched his fingers and Loki jumped.
“No.”
“Perfect! Then you’ll hear what I have to say.” Mobius set his fingers adrift, passing languidly over Loki’s spots but never landing anywhere.
“Sylvie’s my favorite because she’s wild and unpredictable. I can never quite figure out what’s goin’ on in that head of hers, regardless of her being a Loki, and it fascinates me. You know I love my puzzles, and cracking open her head like a walnut has been a real highlight of my career.” Mobius’s fingers over Loki’s knee got the first giggles to bubble out, sweet and fluttery, and it took all of his strength not to chase them down.
“But you? You’re incredible. Quick wit, a quicker knife hand, and a will to survive that I haven’t seen in--” Mobius whistled lowly-- “I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like it. Plus, you’re pretty cute. Or, so I’ve heard.”
“You had me wrapped around your finger when we brought you in. I mean, you could talk a desert into bloomin’.” It was the first time in a few thousand Loki’s that he’d genuinely almost been fooled--something about this one, his Loki, just got to him in a way that the others never could.
“I still have you around my finger.” Loki’s smile and rosy cheeks ignited a gentle warmth in Mobius’s chest. Gentle, rolling chuckles flowed steadily from him, walls completely broken down, and if Mobius could keep one memory forever, it would be this.
“Oh, and that laugh. I’m almost jealous. Literal music to my ears. Y’know, the other Loki’s never laughed like this? It was always this fake, snooty chuckle that used to make my skin crawl.
“But not you. You’ve got this damn beautiful giggle. It’s like the old saying goes: every time a Loki laughs, a puppy is born. Or angels get their wings. A little bit of both.” Mobius let his fingers drift upwards to Loki’s ribs and he whined, pitching forward until his forehead hit Mobius’s chest.
“T-That’s not a thing.” The color on Loki’s face had matured into a wonderful shade of cherry, his voice pinching from the sheer volume of emotion--Mobius could actually see him working through it in real time. Another favorite thing that he could never express aloud--how earnestly and easily Loki wore his emotions.
“He speaks!” Mobius swooped his hands in, never touching but threatening, and Loki yelped around some more giggles.
“Stop it.” Loki swiped at his hands, but even at close range, he couldn’t coordinate enough to catch Mobius.
“You’re right, my bad. It’s rude to keep you waiting.”
“Wh--no, nonono, that’s definitely not what I meant--”
“You make it so easy for me,” Mobius sighed wistfully, seeking out Loki’s trick rib as easy as breathing. Loki shrieked, crumpling in Mobius’s arms, and Mobius held him as he deftly took him apart.
“You are a Loki, alright? There’s no doubt about that. But you’re you, and I like ya. Stop worryin’ about the others.” He wormed his fingers under Loki’s arms, then spidered across the backs of his ribs and up towards his shoulders.
“M-Mobius!”
“Excellent point. You also have me. That’s a pretty big deal--I’m one of a kind, y’know. Limited edition. So there’s that.” His hands found solace beneath Loki's jaw, pulling forth jumpy squeaks between...purrs? Huh. He made a note of it as he scribbled his fingers up Loki’s thigh, dodging swatting hands like a stubborn bug. Loki pulled his knee up to his chest, head tilted back in open-mouthed laughter, and Mobius followed him.
“Who’s got an ego now?” Loki smirked, eyes crinkled, and Mobius summoned his best dramatic gasp.
“You take that back!”
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A Little LOKI Theory Post
*SPOILERS FOR LOKI E1-3 BELOW CUT*
I am loathe to admit that I love the new LOKI TV series, mainly because of the Mobius/Loki dynamic, the interesting sci-fi plot, and just... I so far surprisingly like every episode. This was the show I had such low expectations for, because I didn’t really like LOKI – I felt he was the Moriarty of the MCU, overused when they didn’t need him, and making me annoyed by an actor I love.
EXCEPT I’m also a sucker for character-driven, psychoanalysis stories, like all these D+ Marvel shows are, and it’s leaving me super shocked about me liking characters I didn’t before. I’m fully invested in all these characters now.
I think the only reasom I really wanted to see this show for was because it ties directly into the next Dr. Strange movie, so YEAH, I’m in love multiverse and time travel things, so it was inevitable that I would enjoy this show, I think.
AND of course, I’ve theories and speculations because there’s a lot to work with, and I LOVE stories like these, so I decided I would take some time out and stretch out my meta-writing grey cells. And I wanted somewhere to have my theories/ideas written out before they come to fruition, because DAMNIT I have headcanons and hopes and dreams.
So here we go, spoilers below cut. Please note I know nothing about the comics aside from what other theorists and reviewers have mentioned:
The TVA are “the bad guys” but I think it goes deeper than that... Like the whole Timekeeper thing is really sus. I think it’s only one Timekeeper, who is Kang the Conqueror, who maintains the Sacred Timeline to ensure that he stays in power to PREVENT the Multiverse War which I think he knows happened to stop him. I also think Renslayer is behind all of this suspicious thing; I learned that in the comics Renslayer is a love interest for Kang, so like........... SUS.
AND I think Multiverse War they talked about in the beginning of the show IS the Multiverse War they’re ABOUT TO HAVE. This is a show about non-linear time, and there’s hints about multiverses in the next Spiderman, and Dr Strange is LITERALLY called “Multiverse of Madness”. Wild Theory: Maybe Doctor Strange IS one of the Time Keepers following the Multiverse War.
Loki initially wants to learn the enchanting that Sylvie does for his own selfish gain, and I think he was lying about breaking the TempPad so he would force her to open up. HOWEVER, I think he had a sudden change of heart after learning about the TVA’s Variant Staff; we already see him sort of fond of both Mobius and remembers Casey’s name, so I feel like that he will end up using this knowledge he gained very differently.
Further on this point, they established in Ep 3 that TVA agents / staff need actual real memories to “manipulate” them. So, I think Loki will use this power he learned from Sylvie (I mean, she explained to him how to do it, and this show is really good at using the “Chekov’s guns” given to us) to bring Mobius to “his side”, and TOGETHER they take down the TVA and make it what it should be. Mobius is very dedicated to the TVA, so I really do forsee that it will be Loki “freeing” Mobius as the catalyst to swaying to siding with Loki until the end. He’s a good man with a big heart for humanity, so I think he will totally side with freeing everyone else.
On that note, I think the reason Mobius is fascinated with the nineties is because he’s a variant jetskiier pulled from the nineties. I suspect in his original timeline he probably had a jetski accident and died, but in the Variant timeline, he survived, and out of pity I think Renslayer “saved” him and recruited him. The TVA wiped his memories after he couldn’t cope with the fact that he was SUPPOSED to die.
ALSO still on Mobius, I think every time he keeps questioning too much, he gets his memory wiped, which would explain why he never remembers leaving the cup stains on Renslayer’s table.
I think there’s more to Miss Minutes than meets the eye. Another theory I had was that she was similar to VIKI in iRobot, essentially running the company to her programmed “laws” after the TimeKeepers passed on. So like there’s no TimeKeepers at all, but there was at one time, and Miss Minutes was left to her own devices.
Another theory similar to this, is the Doctor Who episode, The Long Game, where everyone wants to be promoted to “Floor 500″ because it’s rumoured to be a paradise and is the top floor no one has ever returned from; It turns out it’s run by an alien that feeds on the human or something similar, and the people who went to the top floor ended up frozen husks of who they were. Not saying it’s this exact thing, but more the idea that everyone thinks what’s upstairs is a magical wonderful benevolent corporation looking out for what’s best for everyone, but instead it’s one evil thing doing stuff for their own purpose. Eh.
Another rogue theory: Mobius IS a Loki variant, which is why he’s obsessed with Loki himself, knows Loki better than Loki knows himself, and either knows and omitted it, or DOESN’T know but naturally is intrigued by the Loki Variant and him always finding out the truth is WHY his memory keeps getting wiped, and why everyone is always squeamish about having a Loki around. Mobius mentioned that Loki is the one Variant they have stopped more Lokis than any other Variant....
On that thought: IF Lokis are the most common Variant they capture, I think a LOT of the TVA are Loki Variants, trapped in the forms they were presenting as when they were brought in, and because magic doesn’t work in the TVA, they CAN’T turn off the glamour, had their memories wiped, and in turn could now be Codenamed Casey, or Mobius, or B15........ An abstract theory, but I think it’s interesting.
And another, since I learned that it is in the comics: Mobius is a clone drone. This one saddens me and I really hope he’s not. Because I love Mobius.
I think Sylvie was a Variant who worked for the TVA, but somehow had an awakening and wants to free everyone else... the only thing against this theory is her seeming surprised that her magic stopped working when she arrived at the TVA. If she was an agent, she would know that magic doesn’t work within the TVA.
And I think this series will inevitably – if the rumours of a Season 2 are true – have the Mobius / Loki dynamic solving Time Crimes... a.... Holmes and Watson if you will. :D HAHHA.
So yeah. This list will change obviously for the next 3 weeks, and I had a lot of fun with this so I will probably keep it up.
Some things I hope happen by the end:
A giant “probably not going to happen because this is Disney”: I hope they pay-off the “bisexual” confirmation by the end of this... highkey with Mobius (damn it I ship them okay), but lowkey just even a passing remark about anyone LOL. I really ship Lokius, okay. I need this dynamic in the MCU
PLEASE DON’T KILL CASEY, we love Casey. #FREECASEY
I’ll be really honest here, I will effing GROAN and be a not-happy Steph if they do the ship that I think they’re gonna do: Sylvie x Loki. Which is weird to me that Disney would be okay with self-love, but the OBVIOUS initial dynamic of Loki x Mobius is too much, “look we gave you bisexual Loki, aren’t you happy enough??” Just. I dunno. It’s weird / a pet peeve of mine that a lot of online reviewers are bitching about “woke” Disney the one time they ACTUALLY FINALLY let a title character say they’re queer, but are all “UWU SYLVIE AND LOKI ARE GONNA GET TOGETHER BECAUSE LOKI LOVES HIMSELF UWU”. Even though Loki spent legit more screen time with Mobius, and literally did everything he told Sylvie that he wouldn’t do around people he doesn’t trust around Mobius ALREADY?? It’s like they already forgot about the first two eps. LEGIT the whole dagger=love metaphor LITERALLY happened in the previous two episodes, but alright chiefs. Anyway. Sorry, it’s stupid to be bothered by it. 
We’re gonna get that heart wrench moment that the other two shows had, and I TRULY BELIEVE it’s gonna be between Loki and Mobius when Loki tells / shows Mobius the truth. LOOK I JUST WANT MORE OF THEM OKAY. And I need my heart ripping moment in this show within the next two eps LOL. We got one in WandaVision. We got one in FATWS. GIVE ME ONE IN LOKI. MAKE ME LIKE LOKI.
Anyway, so that’s my rambling. Thanks for taking time out to read all this. I miss theorizing, and this show is perfect for me to do it. I’m not AS good at these shows as I was with Sherlock, but it’s still fun, because it’s new and my brain is full of headcanons and idea things. I’ll write again after Ep 4, I think. <3 Thank you lovelies for letting me do this!
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spicy-bunz · 3 years
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So uhh I’m writing Lokius and was wondering if anyone would like to beta read.
It’s set after the TVA has been sorted out, where Mobius and Loki timeline hop to make sure there aren’t anymore Kang uprisings. Loki’s misfires or something and he ends up stranded on a timeline set after endgame and everything where the avengers survived and are staying together (hello 2012 tower au, how I’ve missed you). Loki is pregnant and has to deal with waiting for Mobius to find him, and working through how he feels about seeing Thor again. They already have a five year old daughter and a one year old son, who are both with Mobius.
Loki is genderfluid, but while he is pregnant he opts to keep his “female” reproductive organs and genitals. His identity fluctuates throughout his pregnancies, but I imagine him as continuing to look like Tom Huddleston. Despite how he identifies, he prefers to be called a mother. I myself am genderfluid, and Loki is the genderfluid icon who I shamelessly project onto. Rating might go up to E, but right now it will be at a G.
Little blip of what I have so far. Setting is that Loki is in a cell with a glass wall, and he’s talking to F.R.I.D.A.Y. while the others watch from the outside.
“Loki Laufeyson, what pronouns do you use?”
Loki, not opening his eyes, “At the moment, the traditionally masculine ones.”
“Very good, Mr. Laufeyson.”
“I would ask you not to broadcast my personal information, but I suspect that that’s currently out of the question.”
“I’m afraid so, Mr. Laufeyson.”
A tense pause, that has everyone looking at each other bemusedly.
“Would you prefer to tell them, or should I?”
Loki sucked on his teeth as he stared at the opposite wall, pushing down the emotions that were slowly creeping up his throat. This wasn’t his Thor, it didn’t matter how he found out because Loki wouldn’t be here long enough to feel any way about how Thor thought or felt.
“Go on.”
A holograph of Loki was projected onto the glass of his cell. It showed an outline of his body and the internal systems therein, thankfully omitting the external features. After a moment the silhouette turned sideways, and to Loki’s chagrin it now showed the prominent curve of his abdomen that he’s hidden with a glamour.
It switched filters, now showing the same silhouette but instead of showing the beat of his heart, the flow of his blood or the synapses sparking in his brain, it only showed the small figure that lay cradled against the curve of his spine, its heartbeat played over the speakers. Loki allowed his eyes to wander over to it, and felt himself soften despite himself.
“According to his biological scan, Mr. Laufeyson appears to be in his twenty-eighth week of pregnancy. The fetus has a heart rate of one hundred and forty beats per minute and currently measures at fifteen inches. It is healthy. Mr. Laufeyson, you seem to have an iron and calcium deficiency.”
“Hm, yes. It’s surprisingly difficult to keep those up, my husband is quite the terror in the vitamin aisle.”
Loki kept his eyes on the image of his child, resolutely ignoring the way is brother held up a shaking hand to caress the projection of a small, scrunched face.”
It’s not going to be long, I’m honestly surprised I’m writing it at all. May continue as connected drabbles/one shots, not sure yet. Hmu if you’re interested 🤙
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carinyms · 3 years
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I've scrolled through a lot of discourse on episode 4 of Loki and I need to talk about it
(good lord its a whole essay im sorry)
I gave myself a headache from crying while watching this. (I joined the Loki fandom post-IW so I’ve never had to see him die before while emotionally invested and boy!!! Is it doing things to my fragile psyche!!). But now I’m rehydrated and more stable and ready to party so let’s go
Right off the bat, I loved this episode — loved it loved it loved it. Silly, manic in-shock Loki is gone and shit is getting real. My thought while watching this was truly “wow this is my favorite episode so far” and damn am I in a minority with this opinion lol.
So here’s my perspective on some of the discourse flying around, and just general thoughts
On the whole ‘Narcissist’ thing:
IMO, Mobius saying this means nothing: he’s mad and he’s spouted lies at Loki to push his buttons before (see: every interaction they’ve had since episode 1).
Loki saying this to Sif-- well, Loki is and always has been an unreliable narrator on himself. The major theme of this show is that he doesn’t really know who he is, deep down, and he’s trying to figure it out. The TVA is taking advantage of this, and even though he’s trying to stay above it all throughout the series, he's still in a really impressionable spot and absorbing what others tell him about himself. (not to mention this scene is literal torture and he’s already proven that he’ll say whatever he needs to to get out of it.)
But he does admit one true thing when he says “It’s because I’m scared of being alone.” (And like wow okay same don’t mind my tears) but here’s a big brain idea!
Sif pulls him up and says ‘You are alone, and you always will be’, which is like, WOW that’s cruel after what he said, but it makes me ask wonder: Sif is sentient in this scene, but obviously it’s not really her. Who’s controlling her? And why is it so important for them to make sure Loki thinks he’s alone? I’d go as far as to wager that Sif never even said this to Loki, the big bad made this up. (he admits he forgot about this ever happening, I doubt he’d remember what she said.)
I think the nexus event on Lamentis that caused the branch was two Loki’s joining sides. Or, Loki no longer being alone. Loki insists while talking to Mobius that “she’s not my partner!” but she was, and they were partners from the moment they grabbed hands on Lamentis — right when the timeline broke off. I think Loki variants teaming up is the biggest threat to whoever is pulling the strings here — that’s why the post-credit scene is so significant. (Is Loki the only person who has multiple variants of himself who've escaped the TVA?)
And here’s where I’m gonna get salty--so I apologize but i need to rant about this-- but it’s seriously pissing me off that so many people are intentionally reading this as Loki/Sylvie and then being mad about it when that’s clearly not what’s happening and why is everyone acting like Mobius with one angry jealous brain cell and no critical thinking about the context of the characters.
If people ship it that’s chill, but for the people who are against it—it’s clearly supposed to be platonic, and it’s so upsetting that in the year of our lord 2021 we still can’t have a man and woman hold hands without people saying it’s proof they want to f*ck each other, like what in the misogyny??? STOP. This show was written by a bi woman and Tom the-most-emotionally-sensitive-man-on-this-planet Hiddleston — let them display an intimate loving friendship goddammit. This isn’t romance, this is Loki learning how to admit he cares for someone who cares for him in return — something he hasn’t experienced a whole lot of and clearly doesn’t know how to navigate.
(You have permission to personally come at me if it actually turns out to be romantic by the end of the show—but as of right now I will die on this hill.)
Him putting his hands on her shoulders to me was a clear indication he wanted to hug her, and I’d like to think he would have told her he cares about her, and that they can figure it out together. Because these are two characters who’ve never had anyone else to rely on and trust, and for the first time they’re not alone.
And I have to think about what prompted this from Loki. He just lost Mobius the moment after he called him friend. The way I see it, he’s just realized the true gravity of what they’re up against, and Loki is suddenly very afraid of losing Sylvie too before he tells her cares about her, of dying truly alone because he never told anyone what they meant to him. (Don’t think about this in the context of him also having watched his entire family die knowing he never told Frigga or Thor how much he loved them either don’t think about it—) He’s realized, finally, that he has doesn’t have to be alone, that he can choose to be close to people and have friends. And god it’s so heartbreaking that he never got to hug her or have that moment with her. I really hope they get that in the end. I hope he gets it with Mobius. I hope they have a group hug. I'm upset again.
Okay, deep breath, ANYWAY.
Hopefully this didn’t come off as attacking anyone else’s opinions.
Personally, I love this character so much, I’m just so happy to be seeing him in his own storyline that they can’t go wrong here. Objectively I think the production is amazing, and personally I love they way Loki’s character has been explored so far. (Yea yea, was I HOPING that the bad-memory loop would morph into Sanctuary and Thanos and like a full exploration of his true worst memories? Yes but let’s be honest my whump needs will never be met in canon and I have to accept that lol.)
Honestly I left all my own meta about this character at the door when the series started, because for me the opinions I’ve formed from the hundreds of (amazing) fics and meta I’ve read on this character and what’s true in canon are basically inseparable at this point, and no portrayal is going to live up to the way Loki exists in my head. Canon Loki and fic Loki are two different characters and I can enjoy both at the same time :) I’ve just loved seeing the character get given the different dimensions he deserves, and written by people who care about his story.
Also, it’s not over! If he was dead and this was it I’d be very upset, but this is the rock bottom of the storyline, and I think the whole next two episodes will be the build back up. I trust it’s gonna be worth it. SO hyped for flaming sword Loki. I would die for Sylvie, but I’m excited to see him on his own again.
My current most pressing questions are:
-what was the fallout of Sylvie’s bombing the timeline? (Have we seen that yet, am I just dumb and missing something?)
-Obviously, who’s behind it all? (Kang? Is there a head honcho Very Evil Loki at the top?)
-How much does Ravonna actually know, and to what extent is she just a pawn too? She asked Sylvie to prune her— she’s probably also been duped here.
-Is everything we learned about the sacred timeline BS? How much of what the TVA workers believe is real?
-my favorite theory so far is that the war of the timelines miss minutes talks about hasn’t actually happened yet, maybe making setting that into motion is the true endgame, leading into Multiverse of Madness?
(Side note: holy HELL im so excited for this soundtrack to drop on Spotify. It’s SO AMAZING I had CHILLS in the end credits.)
Open invitation to discuss anything with me if you feel inclined! :)
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meaningofmischief · 3 years
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Evil, Lying Scourge
Set immediately after the battle in the Timekeepers’ chamber. Loki and Renslayer go toe-to-toe as Loki creates the ultimately confronting conditions to force the truth of Sylvie’s Nexus Event from Renslayer.
The truth is devastating - can Loki and Sylvie survive it?
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Loki and Sylvie were traumatized - that was near the only way to put it.
Hours ago they had resigned themselves to die together on an exploding moon.
They had been forcibly yanked into the clutches of the TVA at the last possible minute, restrained, separated, each subject to individual psychological tortures as all their remaining tatters of stability and freedom and friendship were ripped away from them one by one. Both prepared to meet their ends together again, and now even their impossible escape was ice cold comfort as they both examined in horror the head of the mindless android they had taken to be one of the three all-powerful Timekeepers. 
Not to mention the barely suppressed passion each felt for the other that roiled away like a wildfire between them - burning both the longer it went unacknowledged.
‘Then who,’ Loki’s voice broke for stress, ‘created the TVA?’. Sylvie felt choked by a sudden rage. Hurling the head of the android viciously across the floor of the chamber, she spat: ‘I thought this was it.’ They both had, of course.
A low moan startled them and they whipped around, mirrors of defense for the next attack, but the despised Ravonna Renslayer still lay passed out cold from the hefty blow Sylvie had dealt her not a minute before. 
B-15, the undisputed saviour of the pair of them, had finally regained consciousness after the massive strike to the head she had received at the hands of one of the Timekeepers’ specialist defense team. They had not treated her mercifully while she was down either, delivering unnecessarily cruel, wounding kicks to the woman they saw as the traitor in their midst. 
Sylvie reacted as if by instinct and rushed straight to B-15’s side, running practiced hands down the Hunter’s limbs to assess for fractures or broken bones. Loki could only marvel - for all her uncompromising toughness, Sylvie’s unconscious impulse was to compassion, a quality that he found at times miserably difficult to access, which frustrated him to no end, especially when he considered how yet more painful Sylvie’s past had been to his own.
‘Nothing broken.’ Sylvie’s soft reassurance to B-15 snapped Loki out of his reverie. ‘But those arseholes didn’t go easy on you by any means. Do you think you can walk?’ There was a flash of fire in the resilient Hunter’s eyes and she opened her mouth to deliver a stinging retort before Sylvie broke out into a warm smile and there was a brief moment of kinship between these two fearsome warriors.
‘Still,’ continued Sylvie bluntly, ‘I’m not having you risk your life to save us only to pass out in one of these obscure corridors where no-one’ll find you for the next week. I’m gonna see you to the infirmary and you can’t stop me.’ She was busy helping B-15 struggle painfully to her feet when Loki murmured, gravelly, ‘Sylvie. Is that wise?’ 
Sylvie glowered. Whatever difficult feelings she had for this man, he was not about to tell her what to do. Luckily B-15 interceded, voice tight with pain, but determined nonetheless: ‘I know how we can do this. Variant -’, she checked herself, ‘L-Loki. Take out Ravonna’s Tempad from her jacket.’ 
Loki’s skin crawled but he nevertheless did as she commanded, crouching down to where Ravonna still lay knocked out, reaching inside her jacket to retrieve the rectangular Tempad, surprisingly heavy in his palm. He handed it uncertainly to B-15 who snapped it open and began pressing buttons with a confident ease that seemed to indicate she knew exactly what she was doing. ‘There,’ she said smugly after 30 seconds or so, ‘the warrant for my capture has been deleted. And don’t worry,’ her gaze flitted over to Loki and in that brief glance Loki knew that B-15 had perceptively ascertained the depth of his attachment to Sylvie, ‘nothing is going to happen to that Variant on my watch. The store cupboard for this unit is right next to the infirmary, so we’ll get her a uniform to act as a disguise on the way back.’ B-15’s eyes narrowed, and Loki knew she was fighting hard what must be a tremendous amount of pain. She handed the Tempad back to Loki and he felt incredibly humbled by the action. Sylvie helped her very gently to the elevator door. ‘Promise me,’ B-15 whispered through gritted teeth as she turned to face Loki one last time, ‘that you’ll bring this place to the ground.’ Loki nodded once, slow and solemn - forcing himself to believe that such a thing was possible when so much lay still unknown. He and Sylvie locked gazes, and Loki longed to cross to the elevator doors in a handful of strides, hold her so close to him, take her face in his hands… Stop. He forced himself to focus right now, for all of their sakes. He only held her gaze as the elevator doors closed, and then they were gone. 
Loki exhaled, and it came out mostly as a sob. He closed his eyes to withhold the tears which he felt welling in their sea-green depths. He had held himself together all this while for Sylvie, but now, standing alone in the cold, misty chamber - he felt assaulted by uncertainty and fear. And sorrow. He so wished for Mobius, for his friend, who was always so grounded and strong - a master of strategy. Loki’s gift for style and verbal artistry were rendered useless in a situation such as this and he felt utterly incompetent and broken.
‘You can be whatever - whoever - you wanna be. Even someone good. I mean just in case anyone ever told you different.’
Loki’s eyes snapped open, shining with salt water and yet never so determined as now.
No.
He had the ability to stand up and make his own choices, and that started now. Not his first act of defiance against whatever cruel authority had created this suffocating institution of control, and certainly not his last. 
He knew what he needed to do, and he needed to do it for Sylvie - while he had this rapidly diminishing window and before they set about trying to achieve the impossible in burning this place to the ground.
And before he told her that he loved her. 
Loki stooped and grimly retrieved his Time Collar where it lay on the floor after B-15 had freed him of it. He was going to need it, unfortunately. He opened the Tempad and after a short while as he got to grips with its functions, a Time Door with a subtle magenta sheen opened up next to him.
Panicked breathing behind him.
Good, she was awake. 
Loki wasted no time, seizing Renslayer none too gently by the lapel of her jacket. She foggily tried to resist him, but before her blurry vision had even cleared, she felt the Time Collar wrap constrictingly around her neck, felt Loki haul her to her feet and unceremoniously push her through the Time Door ahead of him.
The Asgardian bedchamber was light and airy and warm - a stark contrast to the cool, damp darkness of the place they had emerged from. Loki looked around briefly, instantly wistful, recognising the arch of the ceiling, the pristine white marble floor, even smelling the heady summer scents of his old home. It made his heart ache even more - if that was possible at this stage. He was quickly distracted, however, by Ravonna’s wild sprint away from his side. She had regained her full mental capacity now, but was seized by terror at the situation - at the mercy of the Variant and whatever tortures he could concuct for her.
Loki fiercely loathed to play the jailor - even to someone as worthy of harsh treatment as Renslayer - but he needed her attention. He turned the dial of the Time Twister and in an instant Renslayer was back at his side. Though the logical part of Ravonna’s brain knew it was fruitless, she tried to break away from him several more times, just as Loki had tried upon his capture. Eventually Loki seized her by the arm and made her turn to look at the scene before them.
Throughout the chaos the little girl seated on the floor had payed them no heed. Not that she could. This was what the TVA quaintly referred to as an ‘Observant Loop Cell’ - of course obnoxiously abbreviated to OLC. An OLC was designed not to punish prisoners into submission but rather to force them to reflect on situations they had experienced - made to watch those situations over and over and unable to help, hinder or manipulate any of the figures within it. 
Loki himself had had no idea what to expect when he had found Variant L1129’s file on Renslayer’s Tempad, and created an OLC of the Variant’s apprehension. He had briefly had a vision of the young, out-of-control Goddess of Mischief, terrorizing Asgard - effecting pain and suffering, destruction and death so devastating that there was no choice but to send up a smoke flare, a Nexus Event. It did not fit in the slightest with what he perceived of Sylvie’s true character, but he could think of no other reasonable explanation. He did certainly not expect this angelic child, playing as any child would, with her toys. Loki felt a pang of unhappiness as he remembered his own childhood days, he never could play nicely. It was all borne of resentment and jealousy: Father would always ensure Thor had the most luxurious selection of toys, and he was anyway keen that both of his sons stopped messing around with playthings as early as possible and go out for battle training with the young sons of Asgardian nobility instead. Where Thor thrived in the competitive, loud environment of the training ground, Loki shrank into himself. Self-conscious, anxious, lacking the warrior’s bulk that all the other boys seemed to possess, the young prince found himself more often than not in a corner with a few books and some of the toys his father scorned - to make up his own stories in his own time. The other boys mocked him endlessly, tore pages out of the books, stole the miniature figurines of Valkyrie and other great warriors. Loki had eventually learned to be as harsh and cruel as they - only his power to hurt came from his intelligence rather than brawn.
This little girl was anything but harsh and cruel, hurt and isolated. Yes, she was alone, but she seemed to relish that independence - making her own stories up in her own time. ‘Dragon swoops towards the palace, but Valkyrie flies over, defeats the dragon and saves Asgard!’ she crowed, face alit at the conclusion of what had evidently been an epic story. Loki couldn’t suppress a small smile, though he knew that any moment there must be some great catastrophe which would set off the Nexus Event. Ravonna seemed to have frozen at his side - both were caught up in their individual perception of the events unfolding before their eyes.
When the golden Time Door opened mere seconds later, Loki gasped in disbelief, gaze flitting around the room and then back to Sylvie as he tried to ascertain what could have caused the Nexus and finding no evidence at all. Ravonna stiffened next to him as they both saw none other than Ravonna Renslayer - or more precisely Hunter A-20 - in clear command of the two Minutemen flanking her, hold out her Tempad before her and certify in a cold, triumphant voice: ‘There’s our variant.’ Sylvie’s eyes were huge and frightened as Renslayer continued without pause: ‘On the authority of the Timekeepers, I hereby arrest you for crimes against the sacred timeline’, as though she were addressing some notorious criminal and not a terrified little girl.
‘Where’s the Nexus?!’ Loki thought, increasingly desperate and distressed as the OLC Renslayer seized Sylvie by her skinny arm and wrenched her towards the Time Door. It all happened very quickly then. The Minutemen set their Reset Charge which immediately began its task of disintegrating Sylvie’s possessions - anything and everything that indicated that she had ever been in this room. Sylvie screamed, high-pitched, shaking in Renslayer’s grasp: ‘Wait!!!’. Loki resisted the urge to run to her aid, knowing it would be completely useless. Then Sylvie and Renslayer gone, followed by the Minutemen, the Time Door snapped shut and Loki and his Renslayer stood facing one another in a deafening silence in the handful of seconds of respite prisoners would receive before the loop started again.
Tears were clouding Loki’s vision, but he blinked them away angrily. ‘Why?’ was the only thing he said - in a voice several octaves below his usual speaking voice. Renslayer shook her head and pressed her lips together, though her chest heaved at the fraught situation. Loki growled softly and resisted the urge to hurt her - to make her talk.
No.
That was what he would have done in the past, he would not descend to such base measures now.
He didn’t need to, the loop was already starting again. Loki felt as though his heart would fairly break in two as he watched the young Sylvie skip into her bedroom, arms full of her toys, setting them out, beginning to play. ‘You’re going,’ he spat at Renslayer ‘to stand here with me and watch this as many times as it takes for you to tell me what the Nexus event was that made you rip an innocent young girl’s life away from her and force her on the run for her entire life. I don’t care how long it takes. You’re going to tell me.’
In reality that wasn’t exactly true - Sylvie and B-15 had almost certainly reached the infirmary by now and if Sylvie made it back to the Timekeepers’ chamber to find it empty, to think that she had been abandoned by her one companion (and perhaps more than that) in the universe… It nearly had Loki sending them both back to the TVA instantly. But Renslayer was breaking already, he could see it, as he forced her to watch the abject cruelty, cruelty at her hands, again and again. By the third viewing, Renslayer’s eyes brimmed with tears and Loki would gladly have wept openly. By the fifth, she started to hyperventilate, made to move away. Loki turned the Time Twister’s dial and she was jarred back into place. On the sixth viewing, just as the OLC Renslayer was about to seize Sylvie, she abruptly screamed: ‘Enough! I’ll tell you! I’ll tell you.’
Both breathed out in relief, when Loki pressed the button on the Tempad that cut the loop and everyone in the scene disintegrated immediately. He turned to face her and forced out between his teeth: ‘Do not try to lie to the God of Mischief. You have no idea how acutely I am attuned to falsehoods. You will tell me in every horrifying detail about this Nexus Event, or I will leave you in this Time Cell and bury this Tempad in the deepest crevice of the TVA where no one will ever, ever find it. Now TELL ME.’
Renslayer took a deep breath to steady herself, closed her eyes and spoke with a surprisingly steady voice: ‘The Variant was deviating from her role on the Sacred Timeline.’ Loki snarled: ‘Obviously! What was the deviation?’. Renslayer opened her eyes and locked her chocolate brown eyes with his green ones. ‘A Loki,’ she said, slowly, as though choosing her words carefully, ‘does not get to travel the kind of path that that Variant was on.’ Loki rushed to intercede, but Renslayer narrowed her eyes, warning him not to interrupt her.
‘It was a mistake that she ever got as far as she did. Our technology advances every day - it’s now so accurate that we can nip burgeoning Nexus events like this one in the bud.’ Loki was amazed that she could speak in such clinical terms about the organisation that had only very recently been revealed to have three mindless robots as its figureheads. But Renslayer’s voice ran with conviction which only strengthened as she continued: ‘Lokis are so very tricky. It’s an incredible rarity that any being is allowed so much leeway as they have been, and we have all had to suffer the consequences of that. You see, due to your natures as shapeshifters, this Variant being born the Goddess rather than the God of Mischief was no cause for a Nexus flare. But of course in the archaic society that you are raised in, the ridiculous difference in gender is of massive significance. Recall that only male heirs are permitted to succeed the throne of Asgard. In your case, informing you of your adoption would have caused colossal problems for King Odin - that would have had ramifications across Asgard, not to mention potential rebellion from you yourself. Odin was under no illusions of how much more intelligent you were than his legitimate son, and how that would have fused with the arrogance of princehood to create the ultimate cuckoo within the sparrow’s nest - an utterly unacceptable scenario. Far better to keep that knowledge from you, even if it did mean that you grew up confused and resentful - emotions Odin could easily ignore. Far better to have you treated as the bastard son, who he would insidiously try to manipulate to his own ideals, who might possibly one, highly unlikely day, be fit for the throne should Thor be killed in battle before his heir was old enough to succeed the throne.’
‘Of course, for a girl, Odin had no such concerns. He took the child from Jotunheim out of some scrap of pity, and because she could prove useful in negotiating with the Jotuns at a later date. A princess had no chance of succeeding the throne, not to mention an illegitimate one, who would likely be married off to some lowborn noble as soon as she had come of age. So Odin told the Variant of her adoption. And somehow, ludicrously, that knowledge failed to break the Variant, it only made her stronger. She took pride in her differences from her family and the rest of Asgard, her inclination to independence rather than company, her delight of mischief. Where she should have been enraged, embittered and vengeful, she was courageous, compassionate and creative.’
‘Excuse me,’ Loki hissed, interrupting Renslayer’s monologue, ‘where she SHOULD have been?’. Despite the fact that she had found herself at his mercy, Renslayer sneered at him. ‘Of course-’ she continued, seeming to try to gain the upper hand over him with the knowledge she was revealing, ‘a Loki is an evil, lying scourge, like you. Where would be the heroes of the Timeline without the villains? That Variant had a role to play, same as you, same as all of us, and she went off the path. Whoever heard of a heroic Goddess of Mischief?’. Ravonna’s voice cracked slightly on the last sentence as she bore witness to Loki’s murderous expression. ‘So what you’re saying,’ he replied with devastating calm ‘is that Sylvie lost her home, her family, her life, because she would one day grow up to be kind and just, to be her own person? Oh, no one is truly good or truly bad, but the TVA decrees that not to be so.’ His voice grew more intense and Renslayer shrank before him. ‘Because whatever devil puppetmaster is controlling the TVA, they like to have their play made interesting - with villains to cause destruction and heroes to save the day?’. Renslayer was at a loss for words, but Loki had heard enough. He pressed a button on the Time Twister he held and Ravonna sank ungraciously to the floor, unconscious once more. One of the functions the delightful Twister could enact was to reverse the prisoner’s physiological state - mainly meant for various exotic creatures the TVA brought in, that could effect all sorts of trouble as a result of their innate biology, but in this case merely necessary to give Loki a moment to take in what he had just experienced. He couldn’t quite do it.
Only concern for Sylvie forced Loki to action, and he opened up the door back to the Timekeepers’ chamber using the Tempad, dragging the unconscious Ravonna back through with him. Despite what he had said, he would never consign anyone to spend their life trapped in one of the hideous Time Cells. He removed her Time Collar too, and flung it to a far corner of the chamber, repulsed that it had had to come to him using one of the TVA’s disgusting methods of control to get the information he needed.
His thoughts left Renslayer entirely behind as the elevator doors opened and Sylvie emerged not a moment too soon, yanking off the breastplate and trousers of the TVA Minutemen she had worn as a disguise over her usual black top and trousers. Now that Sylvie’s purpose had been achieved, she too seemed utterly spent as she staggered over to where Loki stood staring at her. Both failed to speak for several moments and then Loki rasped, with a voice that sounded unused for days, ‘Sylvie. Sylvie, I need to tell you something.’
Sylvie’s deep blue eyes widened, her heart began to pound like a wild drum in her chest. ‘What?’ she could only say as Loki struggled to find the words for what he had just learned.
When it was over, they both started to cry. 
Loki and Sylvie had never been ones for excessive, histrionic displays of emotion. They had had to armour themselves in toughness and charm and mischief and wit all their lives despite the turbulence that roared inside of them. 
And now here the both of them stood, silent but for the ragged intake of breath as they struggled to bring themselves under some semblance of control. 
Eventually they stopped. Each observed the other’s tear-streaked face.
‘Sylvie...’ Loki said again. The word seemed to ground him and her at the same time.
‘Not another pep talk please.’ Sylvie uttered with a weak attempt at humour, that fell flat instantly with the sheer desperation in her tone.
‘No. I have to tell you something else.’
Sylvie wasn’t sure that she could handle anything else.
Loki stepped closer to her, and avoided her gaze, his breathing picking up again.
Sylvie felt herself instinctively mirroring him, and forced herself to focus.
Loki looked her in the eyes.
‘We will figure this out.’ 
It really was too much.
‘How do you know that?’ How was there any certainty about anything anymore?
‘Because, uh -’ Loki’s near-gasping for air cut him off and he twisted his sweaty hands together. 
‘Well, back on Lamentis…’ It was all too impossible to explain. Loki gestured helplessly, trying to find the beginnings of some clever story that had never failed to come to him with infinite ease before and now completely failed him.
He gave up. His arms dropped to his sides. 
‘This is new for me. Um -’ Loki’s heart raced in his chest and the sound seemed amplified, obliterating his thoughts. They were a tangle of grief and passion and...and love - a tangle that was impossible to reconcile.
Loki turned his hands towards his heart, as though it could speak for him.
‘What?’ Sylvie breathed, hardly daring to speak, her own heart pulsing just as intensely.
They would figure this out. They would. Some very deep and very soulful part in both of them, inextricably linking one to the other, knew it. Loki clasped her upper arms, barely believing himself.
I love you Sylvie. Sylvie I love you. Sylvie I will always love you - you beautiful spirit of mischief. Sylvie, we are free and we will figure this out. I love you Sylvie, I love you.
‘If it were now to die, ‘twere now to be most happy.’ thought Loki, even as he felt the icy touch of Ravonna Renslayer’s weapon seize his heart and rip its chill through his body, as Sylvie watched him disintegrate right before her eyes which never left his - as he was transported to some realm of chaos where the God of Mischief would navigate the labyrinth back to his Goddess so that he could speak those words unsung softly in her ear before bending down to her lips and watching the TVA burn.
- Inspired by a fantastic suggestion from asgardian1112! More suggestions for future stories gladly welcome!
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zenaeco · 3 years
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Critiquing the Loki series
Ever since the Loki series was announced I have been quite excited, but a larger part of me has been worried. When I was younger I only watched the movies, the MCU was my only access to marvel, that is until as of recent where I have been actively reading comics here and there to see what my favorite characters were based on. Suffice to say the movie magic was partially shattered, whilst not as tragically as let’s say the Percy Jackson movie adaptations, the characters I had grown to love Loki and Stephen were quite different in the source material.
Let us start with an overview of which comics I have read with Loki in them,
Doctor Strange - God of Magic, Loki - the god who fell to Earth, The young avengers, Agent of Asgard and some of the comics that showcased King Loki as well as a young Loki within the Thor collection
The two works I will reference are: god of magic and the god who fell to earth, so spoilers beware!
As for which episodes of the series I am addressing: 1, 2, 3
Let us talk about the current fundamental flaw I have spotted within the writing of Loki’s character in the series.
Loki is a very diverse character depending on which timeline you pluck him from, OUR variant is from the 2012 Avengers timeline, one many have theorized to have been heavily influenced by the mind stone, one seeking to prove his worth, one affiliated and subservient to Thanos.
In episode one, albeit hesitantly, I can gloss over Loki immediately hopping on a large boulder to deliver his speech, it helps jog the memory of who Loki was in Avengers 1 to viewers who haven’t seen it in a while. In my opinion however I would have much preferred a Sakaarian approach to this scene, blending in rather than making a show, it would have been the wiser move, but the plot must go on.
I won’t nitpick the whole episode like I did this scene, but this example is a reoccurring problem that grows more prominent as time goes on, especially in episode three.
LOKI – As comedic figure, rather than a cunning trickster
Look I get it, audience retention is important to the corporate overlords, it makes the general public chuckle while not having to contribute anything of value to the development of the story. Ragnarok was quite the comedic movie but why is it that I adore Ragnarok whilst disliking how humor is handled in the series?
Ragnarok was not Loki centric, if you only focus on one character and make the majority of comedic moments based on their mishaps there is a risk of making them come off as a comedic relief or a goofy entity in a serious environment. This is something I felt whilst watching the first episode. The heavy hitting moment that was supposed to make me sympathize with Loki, him seeing how his role pans out in the proper ‘timeline’ fell short.
The saving grace of the episode ended up being Mobius with the added mystery of which version of Loki was capable of such destruction. I was intrigued enough to keep going.
Now thankfully episode two did Loki a bit more justice, him gaining confidence at being able to find out where the variant could be is quite in character, it was overall more balanced, I have little to add here, mostly because I spent all of episode two theorizing about Sylvie, Kang, the TVA, potential Mobius copies, the usual gist.
Which leads me to the dagger in my side, episode three:
LOKI – The man with no plan?
First things first I am starting to dislike the creative direction of fusing Lady Loki and Sylvie, on a surface level it seems to be the direction the MCU is headed in, they have tweaked things before and will continue to do so in the future. (The ancient one being a woman, the Maximoffs not being mutants, and the change in Shang-Chi’s origin)
Sylvie seemingly received all of the brain cells in this episode, for Loki is seen getting drunk over doing what he does best, self-preservation. Unless this is all an elaborate scheme, where Loki still has a way out, perhaps by having stolen the time-stone in episode one, I don’t see this as being in character at all. Loki in the comics is known to plot ahead, one of my favorite examples of such potting is his fight with nightmare in the god who fell to earth. Using hijacked Stark tech in order to take care of an enemy whom he had convinced to fight without their powers.
It is a mess I truly hope for the future of the series that he won’t be rescued by the TVA, if anything their deaths would be beneficial to the ‘timekeepers’
All in all, I see why this series is necessary, it will introduce Kang hopefully, opens up multiverses for the Dr Strange movie, and hey it’s a win for the LGBTQ community, rainbow gang rise up, I just wish it was more balanced. What are your thoughts? Feel free to let me know, since I love to debate in a civil matter!
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aeterna---amantes · 3 years
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//Tiny Loki headcanons from the show because it is a goldmine for my hyperfocusing ADHD brain (most of them already were in the movies but I'm pulling recent scenes as examples):
When he psychs himself up for something, he tilts his head down. Eg. at Lamentis when they turn around with Sylvie in the panicked crowd and decide where to go, or when Mobius comes to pick him up from the Time Cell and they have their first talk. So this motion applies when he's preparing himself for something physically and mentally, too.
When he's thinking he's fidgeting. Eg. at Lamentis when they're talking about the ark, he fidgeted with his sock on his right foot. I'd bet a fat purse of coin the blanket had been conjured rather to fidget with it off screen than to warm himself up.
He generally uses his hands to explain himself a lot. Loki doesn't just talk with his mouth, he talks with his entire body. If he's excited or explains something, he makes gestures with his hands to further emphasize his point, and sometimes, he even has something in his hand with which he gestures. Lest we forget the way he waved his daggers around when he spoke to Sylvie for the first time, and of course, the Asgard salad. 💚
Except if he's lying or concentrates really hard. Visually, observing him at the interrogation scenes (both episode one and episode four), he'd cross his arms and refuse to give any clues. He closes himself off. But when he loses his cool? He starts using his hands again!
Shame on you pose - hands on hips. Several times, especially in the last episode. Hands on hips generally mean one's ready for action, is confident or asserts their dominant stance, or "issues", or "things are not good", and we see him do this in situations when his expression betrays he doesn't agree with what's happening, so I'd root for the last two explanation in his case. Lokis fighting each other? Shame on you. Sylvie said 'we thought you might need backup', which basically means she got purposefully pruned? Shame on you. Mobius visibly agreeing with Sylvie's enchanting plan? Extra shame on you, with a shocked expression, to boot!
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Essential Avengers: Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #10-12
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February, 1985
DEATH TO THE BEYONDER!
Wow, Doom has been beaten to hell in this story, huh?
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer etc etc.
Anyway, lets get to it.
Last times in Secret Wars: Some amazingly powerful being from Beyond the universe called the Beyonder kidnaps a bunch of heroes, villains, shades thereof, and chunks of random planets to put on a big toy commercial where action figures can bonk off each other.
The X-Men ditched the other heroes to team up with Magneto to do their own thing, as they’re wont to do. But still largely helped the other heroes fight the villains. And didn’t even do villain shit even though Magneto advocated for it.
There have been a bunch of fights back and forth between the groups but most recently, Captain America’s group of heroes stormed Doombase and took down the villain group then had to rush to back up the X-Men in dealing with Galactus who wants to eat the planet, as he is wont to do.
Doom busted out of the cell the heroes stuck him in to pull off his master plan with the help of solid sound man Klaw while Reed Richards had a crisis of weird conscience as he became convinced that maybe Galactus should eat the planet. But he eventually helped the other heroes drive Galactus off-planet where the hat horned purple planet eater started to eat his own spaceship, with Doom planning to steal that tasty snack.
And that brings us to now.
Where things are getting super freaky.
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Reed Richards’ skeleton viscerally upsets me.
But as Galactus’ ship turns from Mobius ship to energy cloud, the cloud gets ripped away from Galactus and streams towards Doombase.
Captain America sends Captain Marvel to Doombase to check if Doom is behind this Total Doom Move and she zips over to determine, yup, Doom is pulling a total Doom right now.
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He’s got himself strapped to a thing under a bunch of Klaw lenses injecting PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER right into his itty bitty body.
Captain Marvel is going to zip back over to let Captain America and Mr. Fantastic know whats going on but Professor X chimes in her brain that he’ll save them some time by setting up a psychic conference call between her and Reed.
Meanwhile, Doctor Doom finishes consuming the aggregate energy of a spaceship the size of a solar system and trips out a little on omnipotence.
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Doom: “By the dark gods! My least whim alters the world around me! Such is the power coursing within me that stone and steel are wisps of nothing which bend and transform in slavish obedience to my merest stray thought!”
Just say no to phenomenal cosmic power.
Also, some omniscience, which lets him see his own brains and into the souls of the people in Doombase.
Annnd. He spots Captain Marvel. Womp womp.
When the psychic connection between her and Xavier is suddenly cut off, the heroes pile into the X-Men’s wrecked ship to fly to Doombase and save Captain Marvel.
Hm. They’ve really been back and forth. They were all just at Doombase and then they came here and now they’re going back to Doombase.
Since the ship is wrecked, Magneto just propels it with MASTERY OF MAGNET and Cap(tain America) praises him for living up to his hype.
Which sets Magneto off on a rant.
Magneto: “I gather, Captain America, that you would have preferred that I fail! Or... was that remark, perhaps, intended to be a ‘well done’ for which I should humble thank you.”
Captain America: “At ease, mister!”
Magneto: “Allies should be ‘at ease’ with one another! What troubles you? Is it my awesome power? Are you jealous? Afraid? Or is it merely because I am a mutant that you are not ‘at ease’?”
Captain America: “Now that you mention it, the fact that you tried to kill all of us here several times as part of various evil schemes for world conquest is pretty hard to forget entirely!”
This sort of feels like Magneto is antsy because he hasn’t been villaining as much as he likes. Or like him going ‘today I shall cause problems on purpose.’
But, whoops, Cap says that he doesn’t have a problem with the X-Men which sets off Wolverine on a rant about how Captain America doesn’t do enough for mutants.
Geez, its like the time he unmasked a governmental conspiracy by Richard Nixon to use a mutant powered UFO to take over America doesn’t even count.
Wolverine accuses Cap of not laying off Magneto even though he’s been helpful. I’ll note that all Cap did was tell Magneto good job which Magneto decided was a slight.
Meanwhile, over at Doombase where Doom likes to Doom, Doom is pondering what to do now.
He is now powerful enough to wipe out everyone on Battleworld with a wave of his hand and easily win this Secret Wars. But he’s already so powerful, what could he possible ask the Beyonder for?
Doom: “Are those dust-mote heroes truly my enemies? Or... is there now but one foe in all existence worthy of Doom? The Beyonder himself!”
Mostly because he exists and is more powerful than Doom and that simply cannot do.
Like, Doom notes that he already has all the power he could ever want but there’s someone over outside the universe who has more power so Doom wants it. Even though the power he do have is messing him up.
Truly Doom in a nutshell.
Hm. Is it odd that everyone just decides that the Beyonder is male based on nothing? He does decide to be male when he manifests on Earth in Secret Wars 2 but there’s no basis for the assumption here.
But we have toys to sell so Doom upgrades his armor.
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This was another request from Mattel, for Doom (and Iron Man, hence the upgrade he gets from Mr. Fantastic) to be given high-tech costumes.
I personally think they just didn’t want to make capes. Notably, there was never a Thor toy.
In-universe, the new armor is a secret weapon to use against the Beyonder, based on Galactus’ machine and the data Doom got scanning the Beyonder in issue 1.
The heroes but into Doombase to find no one to fight. All the villains are still locked up and Doom is nowhere to be seen. They find Captain Marvel, frozen in light form like a hologram.
Then a massive KRAKABOOOM! shakes the fortress as DOOM goes to confront the Beyonder.
The Beyonder: “Stop! You cannot approach me!”
Doom: “Then approach me, coward -- on your knees, if you have knees! Come! Cringe before your master! Grovel before Doom!”
The conflict starts to shake Doombase apart and a big ol rock falls on Reed’s lower torso and knocks the wind out of him.
The monitors in Doombase also shows that the destruction is worldwide, causing devastation to Zsaji’s village, and doing her an injury.
I assume Denver is also affected. I really want that miniseries focusing on Denverians during Secret Wars.
Colossus tries to tell Johnny that Zsaji has been hurt but Johnny’s attentions are elsewhere.
Human Torch: “I -- I’ve got no time for a chippie now! Reed’s hurt! I’ll send her a card later!”
Geez, Johnny.
Anyway, the fight between DOOM and the Beyonder is so so devastating that its threatening to snuff out the sun.
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Which, if nothing else, is impressively bonkers.
But wherever Doom falters, the Beyonder doubles his assault.
Turns out that absorbing the energy of a spaceship the size of a solar system doesn’t make you a match for a guy that can casually wipe out a galaxy.
Doom: “Th-thus -- ? Thus falls Doom? No! No! What is pain to one such as I? I -- I will shut it out. Other men fall prey to the very spectre of death... when her cold embrace seems imminent... they simply swoon into her arms! But I... I am Doom! I -- I deny you, death! Victor von Doom must not die!”
He says this after his leg falls off. For the sake of context.
The world-shaking pauses and an image of Doom appears before the assembled heroes. Trying to come off as confident but blatantly holding his hat.
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Doom: “Greetings! I am Doctor Doom! ... Though I am far more than the being you once knew! Indeed, I have transcended mortality -- and yet, I am your champion -- fighting for your sakes! I am about to crush the Beyonder!”
“The Beyonder, in his cosmic arrogance abducted us all and brought us here to do battle for his amusement! ‘Slay your enemies...!’ He said -- but in truth, he is the real enemy!”
“While he can reach us, our universe is not safe from his manipulations! He must be utterly defeated and sealed away beyond the portal before -- or destroyed! In the name of all who exist in our universe, I, Doom, have dared to attack the Beyonder!”
“The battle has gone well. Even now, the Beyonder cringes in terror, marshalling his failing strength against my final assault! Hence, this lull in the strife -- which has allowed me to appear to you and offer you the chance to share in my glorious conquest. Lend me your power! Hasten his certain defeat! Come! Who will join me against our common foe? You have but to touch my hand! Who shall be first?”
“To him, after our victory, I shall grant power beyond measure -- with which to further his noble purposes, of course! You know I speak the truth! You feel it, do you not?”
I mean, Doom has a point. The Beyonder IS the real enemy. If the heroes refuse to kill anyone, the Beyonder is never going to let them go home. Unless this is a secret test of character but nothing I’ve seen would lead me in that direction.
It’s just. Its Doom. Who would trust him with EVEN MORE PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER?
Magneto immediately steps forward to offer his power to Doom’s service (womp womp) but he meets Xavier’s gaze and hesitates.
Long enough for several Avengers to tackle him away from Doom.
Proving his claim that the fight is definitely in the bag, Doom can’t maintain his GoFundMe hologram and fades away.
Hawkeye, one of the Avengers that tackled Magneto, starts yelling at the X-Men about the company they keep and what it will take for them to realize Magneto is a dick.
But Captain America interrupts Clint. He says that everyone was tempted by what Doom was offering and goes so far as to speculate that Doom was applying some sort of mind control to them and that Magneto just got the biggest dose.
This is all pretty unsubstantiated but he also does point out that Magneto hesitated to grab Doom’s hand and dammit that counts for something.
Meanwhile, Doom is having a bad time.
Trying to crowdfund a Beyonder defeat having not met its goal by the deadline, Doom is at the mercy of the Beyonder.
But the Beyonder is a curious cuss.
I mean, obviously. Why put on a Secret War unless you’re bored and curious.
The Beyonder starts prying into Doom’s brain and forces Doom to remember his ENTIRE BACKSTORY so he can watch.
You probably know it. Roma youth. His mom killed for witchcraft and her soul trapped by Mephisto. Doom studies magic and science to try to contact her. Makes a hellevator device that blows up in his face.
The Beyonder pries into Doom’s desires for: power over the destinies of other men, for freedom for his mom’s spirit, and for his putting on the piping hot mask face to be restored.
All these desires fascinate the Beyonder and he takes his dissection of the Beyonder to an unfortunately literal level and starts flaying Doom to peep his organs.
Meanwhile, the biggest shock yet hits Battleworld and Doombase starts shaking apart.
Captain America goes to free the villains trapped in their cells and finds Wolverine there who agrees that they shouldn’t leave the villains to die in cages, no matter what they’ve done. Magneto is also helping evacuate the captured villains from the medical wing.
Wolverine: “Don’t take this wrong... But you’re a better man than I gave you credit for! I’m an attacker an’ you’re a defender -- but we’re both soldiers! I’m beginnin’ to think you got room in your high-falutin’ ideals for all people... don’tcha -- ? Even if they’re mutants!”
Captain America: “Some of my best friends are people!”
Hah!
Anyway, RIP Doombase. You had a name and that’s more than I can say of the initial hero base or Magneto’s U-fort.
The shaking stops and a glowing orb of light floats down from space in front of the collected heroes.
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Oh my god! The rest of the characters are 4-inch figures but Doom is rocking 24 inches and full articulation!
The heroes prepare to fight the Giant-Sized Doctor Doom but Doom bwoop bwoop bwoops back down to their scale and explains that absorbing the Beyonder caused him to be big because of reasons but he’s got a better handle on it now.
Its not shown on panel but remember Doom had his secret anti-Beyonder weapon hidden inside his armor and the Beyonder got real close when he was dissecting Doom. Which Doom regained consciousness during. So that’s how he did it.
Doom: “First, know you these things... The Beyonder no longer exists... and Doom has been reborn! Thus, have two evils come to an end! There is no enemy left to fight! THE WAR IS OVER!”
Caption: “Nonetheless, we strongly suggest that you read the next issue of Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars on sale in thirty days!!”
Hah.
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March, 1985
... AND DUST TO DUST!
I’ll give Marvel Super Heroes TM Secret Wars TM #11 this. It promises and teases THE FACE OF DOOM right on the cover and dammit, it delivers.
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Gaze upon his generic attractiveness. He looks like Peter Parker having a wild eyebrow day.
I suppose the real surprise is that he fixed up his scarred face, which puts him two checkmarks into his three greatest desires.
He’s the supreme being in the universe and he’s got a face to match.
In a very reassuring manner, Doom tells the assembled heroes that he could destroy them all with a thought and then doesn’t bother destroying them.
Over in the distance, the freed villains see Doom talking with the heroes and Absorbing Man decides that Doom is selling out to the heroes. The other villains get their dander up at this and debate going over and kicking Doom’s ass.
Volcana: “I don’t know what to think, Owie! Doom is the one who made me into Volcana which is wonderful -- but, gee, he does seem to be double-crossing us!”
Molecule Man: “And I had such faith in him! I believe in him! I -- I’m furious!”
Volcana: “Now, Owie, remember your analyst said it wasn’t good to get overwrought!”
Molecule Man: “I don’t care what she said! I’m going to kill that lying, two-faced, rotten fink! Do you hear me, Doom? The Molecule Man is going to kill you!”
Then Molecule Man flips up several billion tons of the planet’s crust so he can have a conversation with Doom.
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Doom just shows Molecule Man the foundations of eternity, the secrets of the universe, how all things work so that Molecule Man can realize that he is the second mightiest in the universe, after Doom.
Doom: “Think! Every molecule, every iota of matter in the cosmos answers to our whim! And all the forces which govern substance bend to your will -- for matter and energy are one and the same! The only limits on your power are those which you have imposed upon yourself, subconsciously because of self-doubt... self-hate... fear! Open your mind to the majesty of your power, Owen Reece! Accept your destiny... and fear no more!”
Molecule Man: “I -- I can control organic molecules! I can do... anything!”
Well.
This bodes something.
Doom then takes off and an amazed Molecule Man declares that he’s now the leader of the villain group. And considering he can peel the planet’s crust in a fit of pique, nobody really wants to say nay.
Molecule Man apparently didn’t want to hurt anyone so when he peeled up the crust, it somehow didn’t hurt any of the heroes. Just relocated them very insistently. Although if they stayed put they’d suffocate from the thin atmosphere.
They return to Doombase, which is somehow still standing. But aside from recapping the series, they really don’t know what to do until Doom makes himself known again.
The villains retreat to the suburb of Denver, Colorado and to the apartment belonging to Marsha Rosenberg (Volcana).
They decide that they don’t actually care about the Secret Wars anymore and just want to go home. And Molecule Man, being a good leader, decides to make this happen for everyone.
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Man. I hope none of Denver’s population went wandering outside suburb limits before Molecule Man domed the suburb and chucked it into space.
The heroes spot it happening on their instruments (and because a chunk of planet being ejected into space causes a rumble) but there’s nothing they can really do about it. So Cap suggests everyone sleep on it.
Colossus can’t sleep because he keeps thinking about how deeply he is in love with Zsaji. So he ditches to zip to her village on an air jetski.
Missing a blob of light enter the Doombase and possess the Hulk.
Possessed Hulk lumbers around the base like a sleepwalker, being found by Spider-Woman who can’t sleep for worrying about her hometown of Denver.
She tries to stop Hulk with her psychic webs but he busts through and shoves her to the ground. The weird light blob goes from Hulk to Spider-Woman.
Hulk goes back to sleep and possessed Spider-Woman creeps into Doom’s lab and the discarded head of Klaw.
But there’s a flash of light and soon a confused Spider-Woman is telling the other heroes that Doom showed up, reassembled Klaw, unfroze Captain Marvel, oh and engraved an invitation to the heroes to meet him tomorrow at his sweet new tower.
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Klaw: “I told you once -- ! I am my wildest dream! Dream! Eem, eem, eem...”
Doom: “I shall miss dreaming...”
He tells Klaw that he does not need sleep anymore and doesn’t dare sleep anymore because of the power contained in him.
Meanwhile, Colossus arrives at Zsaji’s hut while she’s sleeping and invites himself inside. Its creepy or romantic, shrug. She wakes up, he gives her flowers, and confesses he loves her.
Not really understanding the words but getting the gist, Zsaji seems into it.
I guess she gave up on Johnny. Or her people are polygamous.
Later, Wolverine and Nightcrawler gossip about Colossus’ love life. Neither very sympathetic about Colossus cheating on Kitty Pryde.
You’d think they’d also be unsympathetic about the age gap but eh.
Wolverine is also convinced that Colossus isn’t even REALLY in love with Zsaji, that its just a side-effect of her healing power. PLUS, she’s an alien so who knows what love means to her.
Hm. This really does look like a job for Cipher.
The non-Colossus heroes all go to meet Doom at THE TOWER OF DOOM, where Doom is quick to reiterate that they have nothing to worry about with Doom now possessing phenomenal cosmic power.
Doom: “Much has changed, Captain America! Much indeed! For, when I usurped the Beyonder’s power, slaying him -- in a way, Doom died as well! Now, I am all-powerful! I have nothing to prove to lesser creatures -- and none are my equal! I am complete... serene in my omnipotence! The dark, seething desires which once drove and shaped Doom are no more! Nothing in this universe -- nothing of which you can conceive, no matter how cosmic in scope -- could possible merit my attention! For as Eternity is to you... I am to Eternity! I have transcended all concerns of this plane of existence -- and, yet... we have unfinished business! Loose ends, if you will, left over from my mortal life! I cannot undo all of the evil works of my life without unraveling a great deal of the fabric of reality, causing enormous upheavals in the time/space continuum -- ! I can, though, easily set right some of the crimes of these few days past...”
Its good to see that Doom didn’t let becoming the unchallenged supreme being of the universe change him, at least in regards to words words words.
Anyway, he reintegrates Kang and sends the very confused future man home to the future.
He tells the heroes that Galactus has already been found and aided by his herald, Nova.
Which just leaves the wrong that Doom has done the heroes. He offers them a boon to atone for the suffering they’ve endured at his hands.
The heroes debate what to ask for. Spider-Man suggests that Doom can send them home only for Reed, perhaps peevishly, to remark that he can get them home. Nightcrawler suggests that Doom could find Lockheed, who was part of the intro cast but went missing near the beginning. But Captain America tells Doom that they want nothing from him.
Doom: “Very well! Our dealings are ended! Forever! Leave, now as you entered! Soon I shall ascend to higher planes! Until then -- and mark this -- I will not suffer any disturbance! Go... and do not seek to enter my presence again, for I will utterly destroy any who dare!”
Wow.
His magnanimity sure is short-lived.
The heroes do leave but outside Cap(tain America. Captain Marvel hasn’t had a line since she was unfrozen, I think) does a headcount and Spider-Woman is missing.
Despite the risk of Doom making good on his word to kill anyone that disturbs him, Cap won’t leave a comrade behind and reenters THE TOWER OF DOOM.
Cap stumbles onto Doom chilling with his shirt, mask, and boots off and luckily Doom is either in a good mood or hasn’t counted Captain America as leaving yet.
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Captain America tells Doom that Spider-Woman is missing so Doom sends Klaw to go find her.
Klaw goes looking for Spider-Woman but runs into one of her webs. The missing, possessed hero grabs Klaw and transfers the blob of light to him.
Back at Doom having dressed up, maybe feeling awkward about being casual in front of anyone who isn’t Klaw, Doom reveals to Captain America that his mom’s spirit is being held captive by Mephisto and that Doom plans to free her.
Doom: “Is that little enough to ask? Little enough self-solicitude -- ? To free my mother’s soul from endless torment at the hands of an extra-dimensional demon! After that... it is as I said -- no affair of men -- or demons -- could possibly gain my notice!”
Cap comments that Doom is looking pretty human but Doom says its for everyone else’s protection that he keeps the power contained, lest he accidentally wipe out solar systems and galaxies.
Doom: “While I linger on this plane, I am like a giant on a world of ants! Every slight movement I make can seal the destinies of millions! I... do not wish to destroy anyone!”
Klaw returns and tells Cap where to find Spider-Woman so Cap goes off to retrieve her.
The heroes all take off back to Doombase and Cap asks Professor X to summon Colossus because there’s a decision to be made that everyone has to be present for.
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Which leads to this delightful scene of Professor X interrupting Colossus as he’s making out with Zsaji.
Despite Colossus telling Xavier to buzz off, Xavier insists that Colossus return and alas duty before booty. Or something.
When Colossus arrives, the heroes all assemble in a conference room that Cap managed to find in Doombase.
Wasp doesn’t see the problem with Doom wanting to rescue his mother and Cap agrees that its a very humane and human thing to want and that in other circumstances Cap would have volunteered to help him.
But its the human that bothers Cap.
It gets back to Jim Shooter’s themes from his non-consecutive Avengers runs. Graviton, Nefaria, Korvac, Molecule Man, and Moondragon.
Godlike power in the hands of the all too human.
Captain America: “Doom claims he’s transcended all human desire! What if he hasn’t? We’ve seen the power of the Beyonder -- Doom’s power -- in action before! It is such power that even now, nothing in the universe can take place without his consent! That kind of authority rightfully belongs to... no man! No matter how enlightened or benevolent he’s become, freedom to do what Doom allows is not freedom!”
Cap is edging very close to ‘attack and dethrone god’ and I don’t know if he means to.
But as Cap points out, the first thing Doom did with his new power was to repair his face. Awfully human-like vanity.
Mr. Reed Fantastic concedes what Cap is getting at and agrees they need to force Doom to give up his power. And where Reed goes, so goes the rest of the Fantastic Three.
Which doesn’t tell you whether its a good idea or not considering they were both behind ‘let Galactus eat us all’ when Reed suggested it.
But the Avengers, the spiders, the Hulk, and the X-Men all agree as well.
Colossus is the last person to speak up and he suggests that if they attack Doom unprompted, maybe they’re the dicks. Doom may never harm them, may do what he’s said he’ll do and ascend to a higher plane of existence and contemplate gluons or whatever.
Captain America: “You may be right, son! I’m not dead certain about any of this! That’s why it must be a unanimous vote... or we do nothing! Don’t think you must agree! The choice is yours... Keep in mind, by the way, that if we do decide to confront Doom, it’s possible that we might be annihilated on the spot by a bolt from the blue!”
Wow, Cap isn’t just telling Colossus he can vote how he likes and not feel he must go with the majority. He’s also giving good reasons NOT to vote with the majority.
That Cap. He loves democracy so much.
Colossus struggles because he’s just found love and happiness and he never got to finish making out. And he’s being asked to possibly throw that all away unnecessarily!
Cap still won’t press Colossus one way or another so Colossus has to speak from the heart.
Colossus: “Forgive me, Zsaji... I say yes... We fight!”
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He chose........... poorly?
Wonder what the last issue will be about now that half the cast is dead. Ignoring that we see several of these people alive in an issue set after this but published before.
Ignoring that. I wonder what the last issue will be about.
Good thing we don’t have to wait.
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April, 1985
“...NOTHING TO FEAR...”
Okay, see, this is just making me wonder harder.
Hm. I also wonder if this is the first big moment where Captain America’s America Shield gets broken for dramatic effect. I know it happens again in Infinity Gauntlet but that’s some years away.
Anyway, yeah. The twenty-one hero characters and Magneto (twenty-one feels like A LOT, geez) have been totally killed forever and they will certainly stay dead.
To Zsaji’s alarm, since in a bit of establishing relative positions, she can see Doombase from the mountain near her village that Galactus set up his planet-eating equipment on.
Over at THE TOWER OF DOOM, Doom contains the power again.
Klaw: “Seal up the power -- god’s might in a can! Thus, Doom is just another man! But why?”
Doom: “Lest in a careless moment, a casual flick of my little figner might blacken a star system, or wipe out an intergalactic civilization. Lest, like Vishnu. ‘I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.’ This universe is too fragile!”
Klaw: “Such power! Such weight upon your shoulders! Poor Doom!”
Klaw questions whether the heroes are REALLY dead but Doom insists on it.
Meanwhile, Denver floating through space towards Earth.
I wanted to question... like... how much oxygen or food a Denver chunk could contain but Molecule Man laughs at logistics. He can just turn space dust into whatever he needs.
Man, Molecule Man would be great to have on a generation ship.
The villains are still chilling out in Volcana’s apartment, instead of taking over the largest building or whatever. Nice thing about Molecule Man being boss is that he doesn’t really approve of all of that.
Enchantress locks herself in the bathroom because dammit, sometimes you just need alone time to consult with a water elemental for some juicy exposition.
Because its issue 12 and we don’t know anything about the Beyonder really and Doom has already eaten him up so its now or never.
Honestly, time should have been budgeted for it earlier but what can you do.
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The water elemental knows some things by gossiping with other spirits asks as price for her exposition that Enchantress “grant me power to walk through fields of flowers as mortals do” but Enchantress just threatens her into it.
She’s not a great boss.
Water Elemental: “In his realm, the Beyonder was everything and everything was him... and he was content! But by chance, an event in our universe opened a pinhole into his beyond-realm -- and through the pinhole he glimpsed the Earth! For the first time in his existence he became curious! So, he began to observe! For years, he watched the Earth! One thing confounded him above all else -- this incompleteness beings of our universe seemed to have -- this thing called... desire!”
So the Beyonder chose subjects of power, presence and palpable desire. The three P’s. And then he either raptured or lured into his game. The Beyonder sorted them according to the nature of their desires, which is why Magneto ended up with the heroes. Because his desire for mutantkind is like the altruistic desires of the heroes. Vs the personal desires of the villain group.
The Water Elemental recaps the war, including an image of Enchantress getting punched by She-Hulk, probably to piss her off. Yadda yadda, Doom played the larger game while everyone was doing punches and managed to usurp the Beyonder.
Water Elemental: “May I go down the drain now, please?”
Except no. Enchantress is still a bad boss and demands that the elemental use her rapport with the water on Battleworld to tell Enchantress whats going on now.
The elemental says she doesn’t have the power to do that so Enchantress dunks the elemental and boils some power into her.
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Enchantress sees images of the heroes being effortlessly slaughtered, Klaw waiting on Doom as he relaxes, and Doom planning to invade Mephisto’s realm.
The last question Enchantress asks the rather haggard looking elemental is whether the Beyonder is truly dead.
Water Elemental: “N-no... he is close by Doom. But too weak to act... He is hiding where Doom would never suspect, awaiting an opportunity... a moment of vulnerability.”
Humorously, during this scene, the Absorbing Man starts banging on the bathroom door and asking Enchantress if she fell in.
In the living room, the Lizard is getting antsy about being cooped up.
Lizard: “RRAWRR! Out! Lizard wantss out of thiss humanss’ nesst! Musst be in sswamp! Lizard hates humanss!”
The Wrecking Crew just want to kill Lizard to spare the hassle but Volcana sticks up for him because its in her nature to take care of things. And in the same way he demonstrated with Wasp, Lizard folds into surly obedience as soon as someone is firm but nice with him.
Lizard isn’t the only one that’s antsy, as Dock Ock starts complaining and smashing the walls about how unlikely it is that they’ll ever reach home.
Doctorpus Octopus: “Don’t you fools realize the odds against us ever reaching Earth? An ant dropped in the middle of the Sahara would stand a better chance of getting to Hawaii!”
Molecule Man wanders in and tries to calm down the doctorpus while Enchantress lures Volcana away from the crowd.
Enchantress has decided that its time for Volcana to repay her debt for portaling her over to Molecule Man’s side after he was Wolverine’d. And the blank check cost she’s decided on is for Volcana to help Enchantress return to Asgard immediately to warn her people about the danger that Beyonder Doom poses.
And Volcana can help by ‘donating’ her life-force to power the teleport. And by donate, of course, she means, mystically contractually obligated.
Elsewhere, Molecule Man shows Doc Ock that he’s restored the stars in the galaxy that the Beyonder wiped out and that he’s been learning to do spacewarps too. And that’s how they’ll get home.
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Doc Ock has some doubts so Molecule Man wraps him up in a nice, weighted blanket of asphalt and plans to turn him over to the authorities when they get back because he’s beginning to suspect that this supervillain may in fact may not be emotionally healthy.
Molecule Man realizes that Volcana isn’t around and Lizard who saw Enchantress pied piper her away leads MM to interrupt the Enchantress before she can finish draining Volcana or making fat jokes.
She makes a lot of fat jokes. Ffs Amora.
Enchantress teleport flees back to Battleworld but Lizard jumps after her and gets caught up in it.
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He scratches her face so she throws him off a cliff.
And since mystically speaking, the Lizard counts as a “lower creature” Enchantress can just rip away his life-force and use it to fix her face and power an uncertain teleport to Asgard.
RIP the Lizard. Although I’m pretty sure you bounce back from this.
Meanwhile, in THE TOWER OF DOOM, Doom is napping while Klaw creeps on him creepily but Doom wakes up and yells at Klaw for letting him sleep.
Why, who knows what his subconscious would do with the Beyonder’s power in his dreams!
Klaw suggests hey maybe Doom would accidentally revive the heroes. Or maybe he already did? Hm?? In fact, Klaw has a theory and he’s going to use his sound hologram powers to put on a little demonstration for Doom.
He posits that Zsaji saw the destruction Doom wrought on Doombase (which we do know that she did do). She finds the... uh chunks that remain of the heroes and uses her healing powers to put them in stasis where cellular life still lingers. But she finds Colossus less damaged than the rest because he instinctively shifted to his armored form at the last instant. Surely his armored skin is better armor than, say, the Thing’s rock skin or Iron Man’s armor.
The story Klaw is telling works better this way so surely it is so.
Zsaji manages to bring Colossus wholly back to life, at the cost of her own.
A grief-stricken Colossus shoves Reed Richards into a healing tank (his elastic body also less damaged than the rest because sure, Reed Richards is more durable than the Hulk, we can just say anything).
So Reed is restored and he uses the technology of Doombase to invent a mass healing device and restores the rest of the heroes.
Klaw: “And they’re on their way here right now! The end... maybe!”
Doom: “Absurd! That couldn’t happen! The odds are impossible!”
Klaw: “Perhaps... but maybe you sort of... helped things along... Maybe you secretly subconsciously wanted them to survive... to rise from the ashes and live again!”
Doom: “You speak madness, Klaw!”
Klaw doubts though because Doom didn’t completely atomize the heroes and suggests turning on his god-mode and verifying that the heroes are really dead.
But now Doom is worried that having heard Klaw spell out a possible way for the heroes to be alive, his slightest doubt might make it so.
(I mean, I’m pretty sure that the light blob that’s possessing Klaw is the Beyonder who is gaslighting Doom for Reasons.)
Doom: “This is madness! I must drive these thoughts, these doubts, from my mind! They are dead! Dead! Dead! And yet... How many times in the past have I thought that Reed Richards was dead? And, if there were one man who might overcome the odds... is it not Captain America? No... no! THEY ARE DEAD!”
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Klaw: “Then, again...”
Doom lets the Beyonder power well up but he can’t control it and it starts blasting Battleworld to shit and nearly destroyed all of reality. Doom can’t get his mind ordered and calm.
Klaw offers to destroy the heroes for Doom so Doom grants him “an infinitesimal micro-fraction” of his power, “enough to blacken ten thousand suns.”
GEEZ. I know that the Beyonder was established as being the strongest being in the universe, having come from a universe where all was the Beyonder. But that’s still very alarming.
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The heroes rush in because after being murdered in an instant once already, subtlety is out the window.
Klaw intercepts them with a summoned army of monsters and also Ultron. Yes, Ultron is back, back again. Tell a friend. Tell them OH MY GOD RUN.
Then there’s a big two-page spread of everyone attacking everyone because that’s the kind of story this is.
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Rad.
The Thing reverts back to meat man Ben Grimm but manages to will power the rocks back on and decides now he can control the changes and starts crying because this is everything he’s ever wanted.
Hulk goes punchies on Ultron but the robot does a plot injury to Hulk’s leg and for an encore makes Iron Man, Wolverine, and Spider-Woman look stupid before just falling apart.
Thanks to Wasp shrinking down, flying in one of the Hulk punch dents and just yanking wires. Yay, Wasp did a thing!
Also, she beat Ultron. She deserves to. Shame that not more can be made of it as a beat, what with everything going on.
Captain America manages to slip past all the monsters and jump kick his way past Klaw, although Klaw threw that little encounter.
Cap reaches where Doom is once again chilling, although this time with his clothes on.
Doom brags that there’s nothing that the heroes can do to harm him in any way, after all, what is a man to one who is omnipotent?
Captain America: “I wouldn’t be too sure about that! After all... you conquered the Beyonder! And why would you have gone through the trouble of killing us in the first place, unless... you were afraid!”
Doom doesn’t like having holes poked in his arguments so he kamehamehas Cap into ashes.
But Cap respawns out of sheer ‘I can do this all day’ness and charges at Doom to be blasted and respawned again.
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Okay, so its Klaw who keeps respawning Cap, while letting Doom think its his own stolen power running out of control that keeps doing it.
And having Cap keep popping back into existence and trying to hit him in the face with a metal disc makes Doom lose his every last shit.
The power starts to overtake him and threaten the universe so Cap offers his hand, to serve as an anchor to reality for Doom.
Oh, hey. Just like Cap offered Doom his hand in the first issue but Doom turned it down because he hates pity.
But now, with omnipotence raging out of control, Doom reaches to accept Cap’s hand.
Thems some nice bookends.
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Except the feeble remnant of the Beyonder that’s been body hopping bursts out of Klaw and reclaims his power from Doom.
Unpossessed Klaw: “Doom! Doom! Forgive me, Doom! The Beyonder, he took over my body -- ! He used my guile, my wits, my cunning to engineer this! I set you up for this! Doom -- ! I’m so sorry!”
The Beyonder reverts Doom’s armor (and face) back to how it was and then ejects him from the plot. Klaw jumping in to be with his master.
Actually, the Beyonder nopes out of the plot as well. Just kinda abandons this grand experiment into the concept of desire.
And to be fair, half the competitors fucked off. The other half refused to actually kill. And one of the competitors jumped off the board game to steal the Beyonder’s wallet.
At that point, escaping before you have to answer any questions is the right move.
With the fight over, there’s just a whole bunch of wrap-up.
Colossus has a funeral for Zsaji and buries her on the hill overlooking Doombase because fuck those villagers, she probably didn’t have any friends or loved ones who should have a say in this.
While RICHARDSS goes to work on a way home, Spider-Man swings around Doombase for a snack of alien eggplant. Then finds everyone else in the costume making machine room where Professor X has.
Uh.
Made some fashion choices.
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Won’t anybody stop him?
Anyway, he intends to keep undermining Storm when they get back to Earth. What a guy.
Spider-Man also learns that none of their costumes respond to thought like his new black costume does and wonders what’s different about his.
Hulk’s leg was busted up by being Ultron’d and his gamma levels have risen so much that they’d short out the healing pods. So Reed makes Hulk a techno crutch and leg brace to help him get around until his natural healing factor takes care of things.
He’s not very pleased at the situation though and snaps at Hawkeye, leading Hawkeye to a thought that hits a lot different post Civil War II.
Hawkeye: “Whoa! Has he ever changed in the last few days! I think he’s losing it -- becoming totally savage and out of control again! Man, I hope I’m wrong! Maybe I’d better make myself a few more arrows -- some real heavy-duty ones -- just in case!”
Curt Connors wanders in and tells a story about waking up in a crater a few miles from the fortress. He says that he’s sure this time the lizard-persona is totally gone forever for reals.
Nightcrawler says its good that Connors found them before they departed so he wouldn’t get left behind, then mentions that Lockheed the dragon would return.
And boom! Lockheed the dragon returns with a lady dragon!
He’s been getting laid this whole time, the little scamp! I assume! Either way, he has contributed absolutely nothing to anything that happened.
Reed decides that Lockheed and Connors showing up isn’t just a coincidence, that the Beyonder left some trace energy behind when he quit the plot. And that the energy is causing a wish fulfillment phenomenon (which sorta makes sense if you think of it like the promise Beyonder promised to fulfill the winners’ desires?)
Mr. Fantastic: “I believe that this... ‘wish fulfillment’ phenomenon we’ve been experiencing is an after-effect of the battle against Doom! The planet itself seems to have been charged with residual energy whichs seems to respond to strong desire, or force of will!”
Cap(tain America) immediately takes off to where he’s keeping all the fragments of his broken shield that he’s been able to find and wishes REALLY hard for it to be fixed.
“It was the product of a freak metallurgical accident -- a metallic disk of unknown composition, and unique properties -- utterly impervious to any force or instrument which humans comprehend. But now it lies before him like a wounded friend... How many times has it saved his life? And now... it’s usefl life is at an end, for no fire could melt it, no furnace could reforge it. It is forever broken... unless by force of will... or sheer desire... He can accomplish the impossible!”
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Hey, how about that!
I mean, you could have wished Bucky back to life but on the other hand, it’s a real sweet shield. I get it.
Although, in terms of the pre-post Secret Wars issue teasing what could happen in it (Hulk with a leg brace, She-Hulk with the FF, Spider-Man’s new costume), I really think that Steve should have returned from Battleworld with the broken shield.
Almost everything that’s gonna be brought back from Secret Wars is going to have to be abandoned or turn out to be evil.
It’s going to turn out (years later, mind) that Steve fixed his shield bad with his FORCE OF WILL and that for some reason, imperfections in the shield threaten to destroy ALL VIBRANIUM.
And that’s a decent story, probably.
Just saying, you could have Cap return with a broken shield and get that ‘how did that happen’ hype. Its a really intriguing idea. Although, I’d bet that breaking Cap’s shield was only thought up after the pre-post Secret Wars issues had already been done so it had to be introduced and rectified in Secret Wars itself.
Some other things that didn’t last long from Secret Wars: we already know the black goo costume didn’t even last through Secret Wars. The modifications Reed made to the Iron Man armor stop working when Rhodey returns to Earth, then they evolve into the evil Carnivor and fights Quasar in Quasar. Hulk ditches his leg brace two issues after his return to Earth. Connors turns himself back into the Lizard to save his family a couple years after Secret Wars. And so on.
So the time comes to return everyone back to Earth with the device Reed made. It teleports them in small groups up to the ring-shaped construct that got them to Battleworld where it will teleport them to Earth.
Reed beams up the unaffiliated group first of Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Curt Connors, Hulk, and Magneto who decided he’s too cool to hang with the X-Men on the ride home.
Next, the X-Men. Although they have to talk Colossus into coming home instead of being sad on a hill forever by convincing him that he’d be wasting the life Zsaji gave him if he didn’t come home.
Colossus letting Xavier talk him into sticking with the X-Men over greater and greater personal losses eventually becomes a sore point.
Lockheed’s girlfriend flies into the teleport as Reed initializes it, causing a dramatic energy fluctuation that Reed hopes won’t cause any problems on Earth.
It does.
Puff the tiny dragon becomes Puff the enormous dragon, and menaced Japan in her quest to mate with Lockeed. The X-Men had to fight her and Lockheed eventually rejected the now much bigger dragon causing her to explode.
Although she came back to life at some point and she and Lockheed did get back together.
X-Men is a weird book.
The Avengers are up next but She-Hulk tells them that she’s joining the Fantastic Four. Now this happened because Byrne made grabby hands at her and Stern didn’t say no but its not really satisfactorily built-up in this story.
Ben and She-Hulk don’t share many moments to establish that they have a good friendship that he could ask her to take his place on the team. In fact, the last time I know of them teaming up, she was a huge sex pest to him. So it makes it even more baffling.
But it happened in the pre-post issue so its gotta happen.
And Ben asks Jen (maybe the similar names is why he asks her? They can get away with only changing a single letter on his locker) because he’s going to stay behind on Battleworld because he can control his powers here.
He’s not planning on being here forever and Reed can leave the gizmo so Ben can return whenever he wants.
What makes this stupid is that like almost everything involving Ben, Reed knows a lot more about what’s going on and just doesn’t say anything. He starts to but doesn’t insist when Ben tells him not to try to change his mind.
The thing about the Thing is that Ben should always have been able to Rock On or Rock Off as he pleased but there’s a psychological block preventing it.
Ben would lose this control before leaving Battleworld and he quits the FF when he learns that Reed knew that it was a psychological issue.
Mr. Fantastic: “If only I could tell him what I suspect about his transformations -- but it’s the kind of thing that might shatter a man... even a strong man like Ben! No, better to say nothing... and hope he slowly discovers the truth for himself... Or hides from it forever!”“
Geez.
You’re so bad at people.
Anyway. Yeah. Needed some more build-up. Maybe centered around the transformation. Jen could sympathize. She used to have trouble controlling her hulk outs before she just decided to be She-Hulk all the time.
Anyway, this big ridiculous thing (the last issue was 43 PAGES LONG) ends with Ben being thoughtful on a rock.
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And that brings us back to Avengers #243.
I guess he’s not alone because Zsaji’s village is still here, maybe? Is nobody going to send them home??
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