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the-thirteenth-prime · 1 year

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A slightly unhinged ramble-rant on Chairman Rose and how people are missing the entire point of SWSH.

Like, I keep seeing it pop up--like a fucking rank smell you only detect if you’re in a certain place when the wind is blowing in the certain direction--but man does it not bewilder me. Like, these guys who post tags like ‘Chairman Rose is a bad guy but is not a BAD guy’ or ‘I kind of agreed with Chairman Rose’ are just. Are you high?? Did you entirely miss the point of his character?? Did you completely miss the main plot of SWSH?

I’m going to be talking about some heavy shit (including non-sexual child grooming and non-sexual child predation), so I’m gonna put the rest under a read more, let me just say that the theme of SWSH is the relationship between adults and children on their Pokemon journeys, the responsibilities adults have towards children, and what happens when that relationship is abused.

First off, before I get some know-it-all coming at me about how there’s no evidence that Rose is a child predator or a groomer, let me just say there is. Is he a Chris Hansen ‘take a seat for me’ groomer?? No, he’s not, because child grooming is not purely a sexual thing.

Per a very informative article:

“Grooming can be sexual, romantic, financial or for criminal or terrorism purposes, and can target both children and adults. The common aspect is that a perpetrator manipulates a victim by building trust and rapport. The key to grooming is a power dynamic within the relationship: age, gender, physical strength, economic status or another factor.”

Now, with that out of the way, I’m not going to go into shit that’s super obvious to anyone with eyes, but Rose is a serial child groomer. Like, his most obvious victim is Leon, and it’s really wild that people can’t see it?? Like, Leon obviously comes from a fucked-up home situation with a mother who’s absent and neglectful at best (and the people who don’t seem to realize this REALLY confuse me). Like, he has canonically raised his little brother in a house with three adults that could have done the job for him, and the anime literally stated that he was so busy raising Hop and taking care of household chores that he could barely interact with other kids. He was endorsed by Chairman Rose at an age that is implied to be at least two years younger than the average Gym Challenger, and--per the sub of the PokeAni--Rose literally raised him from the moment he became Champion.

(Where was Leon and Hop’s mother during this, you ask? Obviously being terrible at home, since despite Leon being run ragged for all of his life and rarely being home, he still somehow raised his little brother. Let that sink in.)

So Leon has spent his entire life being moulded into Rose’s delusion of the Hero of Galar for the sole purpose of sacrificing himself to defeat Eternatus to stave off an energy crisis that will happen in a millennium and probably would be averted with solar power. THE SUB IN THE POKEANI LITEARLLY HAS ROSE TELLING LEON THAT HE HAS GROOMED HIM FOR THE EXACT PURPOSE OF TAMING ETERNATUS. I’M NOT MAKING THIS UP. I WILL PROVIDE SCREENSHOTS IF ASKED.

Does he know Leon may likely fucking die in the attempt? He sure does, because he’s already started to work on grooming Leon’s replacements! In the game, Bede is a trainer who came from a neglectful home situation who was noticed by the Chairman and given his endorsement for the Gym Challenge wait hold on that sounds really familiar.

Really, REALLY familiar.

Rose’s ploy with taking away Bede’s gym challenger endorsement after Bede literally did what he asked him to was a clear manipulation tactic, and if it hadn’t been for Opal intervening (and she ABSOLUTELY has Rose’s number and you can’t convince me otherwise), the tactic likely would have worked, because Bede would have done anything to get his endorsement back.

(Also Oleana is absolutely the fall girl set up to look like an obstructive villain while Rose can maintain his veneer of innocence. That’s a topic for another day tho.)

AND THEN. in the anime, he flat out tries to do this with Ash. AND IN THE GAME, HE TRIES TO DO THIS WITH THE MC, LIKE BEDE IS HIS PLAN B AND THE PC IS HIS PLAN C. However, the only child Rose has regular chances to interact with who DOES NOT get the manipulation treatment is Hop. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Chairman always tries to pull shit with you when Hop isn’t around, and the two times he DOES interact with Hop are at the very end of the game where Leon’s been forced into trying to stop the apocalypse and after the Opening Ceremony.

What’s different about the Opening Ceremony, though? LEON IS STANDING RIGHT OVER ROSE’S SHOULDER SMILING STEPFORDLY. Which brings me to my next point: why Rose pulls his end game bullshit.

Leon is now in his early 20s, so he has obviously started to ask for his own agency and say no to things. He has also obviously realized that he does NOT want Rose around his brother, which is why he is fucking looming over Rose’s shoulder when he meets Hop and why Rose almost seems to deliberately avoid Hop for the rest of the game. Rose knows that if he so much as messes with Hop, Leon is going to absolutely turn on him, and he’s already become obstinate enough to be a problem. Rose is losing control of Leon, which is why he’s grooming his potential replacements.

It’s also why Rose LITERALLY HOLDS LEON HOSTAGE IN A TOWER. Like, I am amazed that people haven’t seemed to realize that Hop and the MC were ABSOLUTELY rescuing Leon from a hostage situation. Leon had been on top of the tower with Rose for HOURS at that point, and given Oleana’s personal fucking army and how much Leon clearly did not want to be up there, it’s obvious that there wasn’t a way he could easily extricate himself from the situation. What you do hear from his meeting with Rose sounds a lot like a guy trying to say no while also trying to de-escalate a volatile situation: almost like a victim to their abuser oh wait.

(Oleana also says that the reason she wants to defeat you and Hop is to break Leon’s spirit so he won’t have the strength to say no to the Chairman anymore. Like, that’s literally in game. It’s dialogue.)

So yeah. You’re rescuing a prince from a tower who’s being held hostage by an evil king trying to use the prince’s special power for nefarious purposes. This game is full of fairy tale metaphors. Like, a ton.

When you and Hop show up, you basically force Rose to let Leon go so as to not look like a complete fucking monster or cause a scandal, and Leon basically very politely tells Rose to ‘fuck off’ when he leaves.

So Rose--this narcissistic, megalomaniacal child groomer, who’s basically been shut down by the lynch pin of his plan--does the absolute most rational thing and RELEASES THE APOCALYPSE DEMON OUT OF SPITE. He literally says on a screen in front of Galar that oh no, his releasing Eternatus and causing the Second Darkest Day is actually all LEON’S fault for being so unreasonable and unrealistic. It’s manipulation. It’s emotional abuse. It’s Rose punishing his victim for saying no. It’s Rose throwing a tantrum because Leon told him to wait another week before doing something about something that would happen in a millennium.

Bede made a fool of Rose doing exactly what Rose and Oleana wanted him to do, so he punished him. Leon said no, so he punished him, and punished all of Galar while he was at it. He’s not doing shit for the good of Galar. He’s doing it for himself.

See, the game’s story exists to debate the relationship between adults and children in the Pokemon world. For generation after generation of games, children as young as ten have gone out in the big wide world with nothing but their starter and a Pokedex, and the adults they have met have never had any poor intentions towards them specifically. Yes, there’s all the evil teams and blah blah blah, but they weren’t targeting you, the child MC. You were just caught up in their messes. SWSH is the first game to show that no, there are adults who will try to take advantage of you because you are a child, and there are good adults who will try to protect you.

Opal protects Bede. Leon protects you and Hop. Leon has obviously gotten old enough to realize that what Rose did to him was wrong, and he tries so fucking hard through the whole game to protect you and his little brother from his boss’s machinations and all the bad shit happening in the world. I know people bitch about being ‘railroaded’ and not allowed to participate in the ‘plot’ until the end, but that’s the point. The good adults are trying to protect the children from the bad adults trying to harm them, and the children intervene only when the adults die trying to save them. Children should be allowed to adventures and have fun, but they should also be protected and shielded from shit that can harm them and shit they’re not old enough to understand, and this game--for better or for worse--is trying to strike that balance.

One last, very important thing. Leon’s life had been micromanaged and controlled from the moment he became Champion by Chairman Rose. He had to become all things to Galar--its fucking policeman, it’s regional hero, it’s unbeatable symbol of perfection, it’s hero, and--almost--its messiah--and when the MC becomes a Champion? He doesn’t hesitate to become Chairman, and he tells you--the new Champion--that your job is to explore and have fun. He doesn’t ask you to do sponsorship deals. He lets you do matches and tournaments at your own leisure. He calls you politely to ask if you want to do the Galarian Star Tournament. He doesn’t even know your PHONE NUMBER and I think about that a lot.

The game is about the responsibilities adults have towards children. It’s about how you don’t have to be the main character to be the hero. It’s about how you can’t and shouldn’t do everything alone. It’s about how child predation and abuse don’t have to be obvious or ‘traditional’ to be real and a threat. Finally, as Leon demonstrates so poignantly, it’s about breaking the cycle of abuse.

And THAT’S why SWSH is one of the best stories--if not THE best--that the Pokegames have ever told, regardless of its faults and the National Dex and a berry tree looking a little weird.

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inbarfink · 7 months

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irlkisukeurahara · 5 months

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Bede's official design in Pokémon Unown Legends Tale!! Commissioned from starcatz.roxaye on Instagram!! ^^

#rambles with miles #Pokemon Unown Legends Tale #pokemon au #pokémon au #pokemon sword and shield #pokemon sword #pokemon shield #pokemon swsh #swsh #pokémon #pokemon #bede pokemon #bede pkmn #gym leader bede #timeskip #timeskip au #hatterene

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sheepishzoologist · 9 months

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#Pokemon #pkmn #swsh #pokemon sword and shield #pokemon swsh #bede swsh #bede pokemon #pokemon bede #rival bede #gym leader bede #galarian rapidash #rapidash #Bede's rapidash #okay now show people my art mx. Tumblr please I'm proud of this one #sheepishzoologist art #pokemon fanart #bede

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teapopp · 10 days

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their stores have them both on closing shift and shiro is so sick of seeing bede (theyre always parked next to each other for some reason..)

o its also a wip.... HAPPY CAGEDBIRDSSHIPPING DAYYYY

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mintaikcorpse · 11 months

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Bede Headcanons

-His hatterene has a nickname and it's probably something dumb like Hatty or something, since the game says he got it when he was really young

-He'd much rather prefer living in a forest in s tiny cottage filled either fairy type pokemon than in a city

-Definelty makes fun of Unovans (British vs American slander exists in the pokemon world)

-Really enjoys ballads

-Took a lot to get him to open up to Opal because he was so used to being treated like disposable waste. So when Opal actually thought he could do something meaningful, he was a bit surprised and also a little flattered. He secretly enjoys her company

-Prefers to stay awake and is a giant night owl

-His gym is quite controversial because it's dual typed instead of pure fairy or pure psychic types

-He's used to people being annoyed with him because he was labeled as a "problem child" when he was still in an orphanage. Not used to Gloria/Victor actually wanting to be friends with him, and as much as he says he finds them annoying, he really does like them

-Prefers a lot of sweet foods, but pretends to like bitter foods because it's "sophisticated." His favorite food is vanilla cupcakes

- His favorite flowers are pink foxgloves

-With his color scheme being pink, blue, and white, he is definitely trans. Opal as well

-Gloria calls him "Grandma" to get on his nerves. It works

-He's biracial with one of his parents being white and the other being black. Look at his hair and tell me I'm wrong

-Really loves reading. His favorite genres are fantasy stories with chosen one heroes

-This isn't a headcanon, but I find the change in his eyes a super cute and neat detail. In the beginning of the game, his eyes were just purple and black, and kinda plain. They looked like everyone else's eyes in the game. But when he became a gym leader, he got sparkles in his eyes, and they also had a lot softer default expression. He became happier when he left Rose and became a Gym Leader

#in my first playthrough i honestly thought be was a middle aged women until the middle of the game #bede #pokemo trainer bede #gym leader bede #pokemon headcanons #pokemon sword and shield #pokemon sword #pokemon shield #pokemon swsh #pokemon #pkmn swsh

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gooberdotnet · 1 month

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I was exploring my files and found some gems I forgot I made

#I use my access to firealpaca for evil :]#bede #bede pkmn #rival bede #bede pokemon #pokemon bede #trainer bede #gym leader bede #pokemon oc #oc #Wyverlyn Kahele-Hill #yapping about bede pokemon

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redenne-moon · 1 year

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Sleepy ram Bede (2022) - Don’t repost. I HC that Bede is afraid of the dark and sleeps with his Ponyta/Rapidash as a nightlight.

#redenneart #rival bede #gym leader bede #bede pokemon #pokemon rivals #pokemon #pokemon fanart #pokemon art #pkmn #pkmnart #pkmn swsh #pokemon swsh #pokemon sword and shield #ponyta #galarian ponyta #galar ponyta #hatenna #galar region #galar pokemon

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stoutlandchild · 1 year

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I love Bede because he's an asshole, he's unapologetically an asshole, but he isn't treated like a lost cause. I always love seeing traumatized characters in fiction who are Jerks. Especially ones who get support and help later on.

Bede is an asshole and mean and rude but it doesn't mean he should be left behind. Say what you will about the destruction of the mural (Bede did destroy a very important part of Stow-On-Side and that is Bad) But I think it is notable that Bede genuinely did think that destroying an important part of a major town to fulfill the Chairman's wishes was a good idea. And also thought battling people for wishing stars was a good idea. I think that says a lot about his relationship with the Chairman and what he thought Rose wanted from him.

I always liked that after Opal, Bede was still, a bit of an ass. First of all the gym challenge takes place over the span of like...3 weeks? A month? Bede's not gonna make a personality flip but you can tell just by how he poses that Bede is happier. The fact he can even Admit His Mistakes in the post-game is notable.

This is the same person who WANTED A DO-OVER IN THE STOW-ON-SIDE BATTLE! Yet Bede is able to grow because he's given support and help.

And again this calls into question the Chairman's relationship with Bede but it proves more importantly that Bede is not a lost cause, and he shouldn't be abandoned. Something he constantly fears happening to him throughout SWSH.

I just...really like Bede's character. It has a lot of a good concepts just poor execution like most of the game really.

(Also I was looking through the Buldapedia quotes page and Bede has a lot of Fascinating Masters EX quotes

Here's one about Opal:

Random conversation

"Sometimes, I find myself thinking about the Ballonlea Stadium in Galar." "I wonder if the stadium's been cleaned and if the Pokémon are being cared for properly while I'm gone." "*sigh* It's not like me to worry about these things."

If spoken to again

"It's because I met Ms. Opal that my life has changed so dramatically." "Do you have anybody like that?" "A person so intense they change your life."

And here's one about the Wishing Star Gathering

Random conversation

"I had some frustrating experiences with my Gym Challenge back in Galar, but that helped me realize something..." "You should be the one to decide how to live your life." "Your own dreams and goals should be the ones you choose yourself. Otherwise, what's the point?"

If spoken to again

"I will walk this path and reach the pinnacle of what Fairy types can do." "This is my goal. I've chosen it with my own will." "I hope that you might also have such a goal."

Again this has Certain Implications about how Bede was treated but yeah fun quotes thank you Masters EX for the character insight)

#pkmn #pokemon bede #gym leader bede #pkmn swsh #pokemon sword and shield #sword and shield #swsh #bede swsh #pkmn meta #didnt expect to write bede meta tonight but I couldnt sleep so *shrugs*

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