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niobiumao3 · 1 year

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Havoc Marauder Interior

Someone made a post about this a while ago but apparently they de-activated so it is possibly lost to the mists of time. Here is what I put together for myself as a writing reference. Image heavy, meta heavy.

Last edit: 2023/11/03

Edits: Replaced garbage text layout with actual ship overhead. Realized the two concept art images face different directions. This likely explains the magical moving jump seats. Also added discussion of a cargo hold. Added discussion of ship dimensions (specifically length). Replaced old guesstimates with numbers from Dawn of Rebellion. Added commentary about the magical seat.

I think people under- and over-estimate the Marauder's interior potential. Given its overall size and intended use (transporting about 10-15 troops plus assorted equipment and providing air support in a forward area), there's not much room left for creature comforts.

Except the Batch aren't 10-15 people, they're 5, and the shuttle is referred to as modified numerous times. This leaves plenty of room to make assumptions and freeform. So, as to what we have actual, visual evidence for from episodes and concept art, here is a rudimentary floor plan:

An important point about the two concept art images: they do NOT face the same direction. The top image faces to the aft/back of the ship, i.e. the tailgun. The second image faces to the fore/front of the ship.

Number key:

1: We know this is where the ramp and door are located from War Mantle and Metamorphsis.

2: We know about this upper storage area from Cut and Run

3: The access to the tail gun has changed visual from TCW s07e02 and various TBB episodes.

The Magically Appearing/Disappearing Seat

In Cut and Run we have this moment with Hunter and Omega, but in most other shots each of these consoles has only one seat (eg. Tech and Echo in prior frames). I think this is actually NOT a magically appearing seat. I think it's the other console seat, because I suspect they can be moved. I base this one this shot from Replacements:

That looks like a seat with a moveable base.

Obviously this is bad design for a ship which is doing barrel rolls and what-not, so I have to assume they're magnetically locked. Even if it is the same seat, in the shots right before that one above, Omega walks up and it's not in that space. So it's almost like the scene was longer and was shortened, and we missed a few frames of her or Hunter unlocking it and moving it over.

Meta Discussions

tl;dr: I think of the Marauder as a small fishing vessel or a van-conversion RV. You can put a lot into a small space if you get creative.

Bathroom I know the writers have made weird assertions there isn't one and omg they all smell gross from no hygiene but that makes zero sense. Soldiers are constantly under stress, they're getting injured, they need to stay clean when possible or they're going to get sick and die from a systemic infection in short order. Anyone who's glanced in the general direction of military history knows this. You can argue about clone expendibility all you want but the Batch minimally qualify in that regard, being Nala Se's pet project. Can you imagine losing one of them to a staph infection because there's nowhere for them to bust out some no-rinse antimicrobial soap or get their scalp clean? I'm not saying they'll be doing photoshoots in between missions (well maybe Hunter would ) but, come on. (And are you going to tell me Mr. Sensor Sensoria is cool with doing long hauls with 4 people who don't bathe? Just, no.)

But that much aside, anyone who's ever been in an RV, a commercial airliner, or a modest-sized sea vessel knows you can cram a bathroom into a tiny space. Yes, you're going to be spinning in circles doing things, but the benefits of a spot to clean up, manage waste, and tend to injuries far outweigh any other use of that area. So regardless of what the writers say, a transport without a minimal refresher (to use the SW term) is counter to the ship's designed use. It has to be able to accommodate Wrecker, of course, but in the end it can double as storage when not in use. There is zero reason to not have one. Added to this, we now officially have a length for the Marauder, which is 30.3 meters (see below). RVs which are 1/5 of that size have bathrooms. You're going to tell me the Marauder doesn't?

If nothing else, since the TCW episodes and the beginning of S1 have pointed to them going on extended deployments with long hops between stops, they're going to need one or constantly be handling waste in much less efficient and sustainable ways.

Added to all of this, it's specifically called a modified variant of an Omicron. We're probably meant to think this means 'Tech would like to fly faster than the GAR and ship engineers think is reasonable for a shuttle' but IMO it extends to changes like this as well. So, there's a refresher in there, feel free to choose a spot. Right across from the fold out racks is a good candidate because in most imagery it's just weapons storage, and there's an entire upper-deck space which you could use for that.

Galley Definitely not one of these. The Batch are eating rations any time they're not on Kamino. You can make an argument they (and all clone units) have cook kits for improvised eating in the field; in the Batch's case I suspect that's a given, as they'd just start doing it because who's going to stop them? Additionally, the sheer amount of rations you would need to carry around to feed Wrecker would be ridiculous. (Remember when Wrecker talks about never being full in S2E13? I feel like this is an indication they did and still do, in fact, have to improvise a lot of additional caloric intake. Hunter probably thought Cut and Suu's farm was a genius idea. 'Grow your own food! Wrecker will never be hungry again! Fucking incredible.' Then Tech got the ship impounded.) I think you can argue for one being added, like with the refresher. Do they actually need those weapons racks anymore? Definitely no. But, it's not on there by default.

Beds As you can see in the concept art above, there are at least 3 racks that fold out from the wall on the port side. They're at a minimum wide enough to accommodate Wrecker, they may also be long enough for him to not need to curl up (unclear because in this shot from Bounty Lost his knees are bent and he's hugging Lula):

Three is a weird number since originally there were four of them. I figure the options here are:

The pilot/copilot/second row seats all look 100% more comfortable than the racks. We actually see Tech sleeping in one, at one point, so this has actual evidence to support it.

It's war time, they're never all asleep simultaneously. Someone is always flying the ship or on watch.

The floor is in effect the same as a rack, arguably preferable as you can't fall off it in the event Something Happens while you're out. So, one of them might actually be ON the floor sometimes.

They're not really intended to sleep on the ship for extended periods, but narratively we're lead to believe they have, many times, and needed to make adjustments to it as a result. Notice how quickly Wrecker whipped up a bed for Omega? IMO, not the first time they've done something like that--they did it for themselves first.

Cargo Hold Based on that screenshot of Omega above and the below shot from Cut and Run, the 'hold' of the ship is actually a storage area overhead, running the length of the ship. In that shot above of the rack, there are a series of yellow rungs which imply you can climb up somewhere on the port side. This is probably alternate access to that same overhead storage space.

In Cut and Run we see Echo, Omega, and Tech hide in it, coming back out from a slide-open hatch:

Given Tech's height this is probably somewhere around 1.5m high.

We can be reasonably certain the hold isn't under the ship, or at least storage there is minimal, due to a couple of things:

In all instances where the hyperdrive has been pulled, it's under the ship on the belly, and takes up a reasonable amount of space. Eg., in Retrieval, here's a bunch of stuff which has been pulled from the ship:

In instances where they're working on the ship from the outside, like in Cornered, the sides and belly never have panels open which contain empty space unless the ship's hardware have been removed to reach something:

So, the cargo hold is probably that space on the top from Cut and Run. It doesn't have much room; reasonably speaking, the area with the weapons and sleeping racks was probably a cargo hold as well, they just converted it to a more general purpose area. (So IMO this is a stronger argument for putting a commercial airliner-style bathroom in place of the weapons racks, particularly once they bail on the Empire.)

Dimensions - updated 11/3/23 Dawn of Rebellion has a Bad Batch section, and indicates the Marauder is 30.3m in length, 36.65m wide (presumably with the wings extended, and 12.41m tall (this probably includes the central stabilizer).

I will edit this to update it as we get more pictures. Since the toys that I know of have no basis the show from an internal perspective I didn't include anything from them.

Image sources:

All screencaps by me. Use at will.

Marauder underlay

Bad Batch Concept Art, Marauder Interior

#havoc marauder #meta #marauder #tbb marauder #did I use shots with tech #on purpose?#yes I did #because he's not dead #>:(#the bad batch #star wars

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hayden-christensen · 2 years

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@pscentral event 07: space

MAIN PLANETS and MOONS in the STAR WARS MOVIES

#swedit #starwarsedit #star wars #original trilogy #prequel trilogy #starwarsblr #*mine #*2022 #*gifs #3k #[layout]#pscentral events #main = memorable to me if I didn't include one that's why #I would have been here forever if I did all sw including shows so movies it was haha I've wanted to make smth like this for agessss #the prequel planets are so pretty omg naboo and coruscant my faves :)

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altraviolet · 4 months

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This lovely star is in response to a meme post saying people can send an ask for commentary on a specific part of a fic, "Or, send in a ⭐star⭐ to have the author select a section they’ve been dying to talk about!"

I'm going to pick a random chapter and then tell you a funfact or few from it :D

Ok Ch 6 "Points of Light"

Ultra Magnus tells Soundwave: “Rodimus has specifically requested I give you a tour of the inside of this establishment. Specifically, of the barstool layout and the menu.”

What Rodimus actually said was, "Take Soundwave to the bar to order a drink."

Whirl introduces himself to SW with this line: “The name's Whirl. Your dimension undoubtably had a Whirl and he was nowhere near as cool as me.” I was trying to think of how Whirl would introduce himself to someone from another dimension. Honestly, how do you top having "no known weaknesses"?? I figured Whirl would recognize the probability of a namesake existing in another dimension, while also establishing superiority over them xD

Perceptor's line, "If you will, whether one fashions a blade or a pen from iron, and commits to the use of each object as intended, the iron remains the same.” I've always been proud of that line xD I think it eloquently explains the concept.

#ask #anonymous #ask meme

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mondlevan · 10 months

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han solos messy headers

“♡” or reblog if you save/use — follow me.

twt: @szamofada

#han solo #han solo headers #messy #messy headers #messy icons #star wars #sw #swedit #harrison ford #harrison ford messy headers #icons #layouts #moodboard #meme #headers

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wildbearadactyl · 10 months

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So in light of Tumblr's "Core Product Strategy"

(Yes, this is a copy and paste from a post I made with a reblog, but it's under a cut and I want this to be seen by as many people as possible.) None of the Tumblr experience is confusing, and claiming it's confusing is disingenuous. There is a clear and obvious search function, everyone knows how a tag works in the modern era, and no one wants to see anything out of chronological order. Just because your programmers can't code a working search function doesn't mean it's confusing, it means your team is incompetent. The strength of Tumblr is the ability to curate your experience, there is a reason the community has given extreme backlash any time this has been compromised even to the slightest degree. Remove this, and Tumblr is no longer unique and loses its draw. People like Tumblr because there is not a content algorithm shoving things down their throats at all times. For anyone looking to abandon ship in light of this shitty, online homogenization shit: Reminder that Pillowfort still very much exists, and despite the rocky beginning (People forget that no site just starts out in its final state); is maturing as a platform. Pillowfort also allows adult/SW content, and allows easy filtering of it. Getting an invitation link isn't hard, either, they're spread pretty liberally by the user base on their Twitter. Of course, there is also Neocities, my preference, given it allows an authentic old-web experience complete with web rings if you desire. Anyone who's coded a layout will feel right at home there, and of course it creates the opportunity to learn how to code in HTML/CSS if one desires, though there is plenty of premade stuff if you don't want to go that route. Here is my site for example. The whole point of Neocities is to make your own little space on the web, and it has functionality that allows you to follow other sites as well, or in short a feed you can curate yourself.

If a site makes shitty decisions, don't stay out of comfort or familiarity, move on to prove you won't stand for it. Sites wind up being de facto and running the web when people complain but don't actually make a stand and leave.

#Tumblr #Staff #Neocities #Pillowfort #Internet #Web #Old Web #Social Media

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thesunlikehoney · 4 months

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funny thing about that megamind post. i wrote that post the exact same way i would have written a star wars meta/fanonization critique. i just forgot that megamind is a smaller fandom with a significantly smaller canon, and the character of megamind is himself the lead and not a random side character everybody feels obligated to write but nobody bothers to do the research to write properly.

like if that post had been same tone/phrasing/layout but was centered around literally any clone character or an annoyance with obi-wan fanon or something? totally different response. i know that because i have made those posts. are sw fans all assholes or do we just approach fandom with more aggression and suspicion due to seeing our favorites dragged through the mud so often? or maybe it's something about larger fandoms being more fractured and smaller fandoms more tight knit?

#all my nice megamind posts were on my old account lol #i'm sorry i seem to have pissed off some people but it's also very funny to me seeing these differences live

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wildpeachfarm · 1 month

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You said you're willing to talk about writing and I know you can't contribute as much (fair, I'm an author and earlier someone asked you about pastels and I was like, well duh they like pastels look at their tumblr layouts only to keep reading asks and realized they were talking about the other kinds of pastels 😭)

But right now I just feel so excited as a writer cause I've got some really exciting plans coming up soon. With my current WIP (beloved sex worker au) I'm dabbing into very different character dynamics and really mature themes that I never let myself explore before

And either after that's done or before I finish it as a little break I'm planning on something that's gonna be really short and sweet. It'll be a nice change of pace from the sex worker au and its gonna be shorter so less thinking needed. I hesitate to call it low-effort cause it's not really, but that's probably gonna cap out between 3k-5k which is bite-sized for me as a writer to work on (I know for some writers that's pretty long and no shame to them, just for my personal averages that's very much on the short end of the spectrum)

I'm just excited to create honest 🫶

And the reception of the SW!AU has been so lovely it makes me want to write more 🥰

How about your art? Any exciting pieces on the way? A new setting you want to put them in?

I really don't know how to ask artists about their progress sorry ��

I imagine you guys aren't all that different but for writers we can all speak in tropes and while artists can do that to, you guys also go outside the bounds of tropes a fair bit lol

(wait omg this makes me wonder if I also misinterpreted that ask as meaning the wrong type of pastels HAHA)

OOOOH this sounds so interesting I love seeing people explore new dynamics with characters and their interpretations of unique scenarios and such. Also I'm a sucker for sweet stuff too so needless to say i will be SAT for anything you post!

I've been working on art slowly but surely! I've got a few ideas on the back burner but the next two weeks are still stressful exam season for me so I haven't had a /ton/ of time to whip out drawings like i usually can haha. Hopefully soon™️ tho

oh yeah I never thought about it like that but I definitely see it! I wish the fanbase did more bigbang events with artists and writers together because I always love to see collaborations within one trope/genre/prompt/etc. because it can still be so varied :0

#ask #anon #this is a scheduled post

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