#the logic with the timelines

[martlet-my-beloved]

I feel like Martlet would want to go with Frisk out of the ruins. After the time she seperated from Clover she would not want that to happen with another human child.

i dont think there would be any circumstance where martlet could ever bring herself to let frisk go alone tbh. its either frisk stays in the ruins with her and toriel as long as they like or they go out into the underground together. by the end of uty's pacifist, martlet definitely has ZERO trust in the guards and asgore to just let a child walk out into a world ready to kill them on sight.

i mean, im pretty sure im not fooling anyone by doing the whole "will they wont they" about frisk leaving the ruins XD. it's really only a matter of time before they confront toriel about it, and martlet wouldnt hesitate to follow right after them. she's brought a human through the underground once, and she'd do it again no questions asked

currently i think this au takes place around 5 or 6 years after uty? so martlet definitely had time to think about her time with clover and definitely knows about what toriel does. she knows the game plan. either she helps keep the next human safe in the ruins or she keeps them safe out in the underground. still a royal guard, after all.

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#martlet #undertale yellow #martlet undertale yellow #martlet uty #undertale au #frisk dreemurr #undertale bluebird #i know there is no way theres a multiple year gap between uty and ut but i have a reason for it okay 😭 #it will make sense one day i swear #anyways but yeah of all things the only petty complaint i have over uty is actual just timeline fuckery 😭 #ITS SUCH A DUMB NITPICK BUT IT DRIVES ME NUTS THAT ALPHYS IS ALREADY THE ROYAL SCIENTIST IN UTY #AND THAT METTATON IS ALREADY A TV STAR #LIKE THERES NO WAY THE YELLOW SOUL CANONICALLY FELL THAT CLOSE TO FRISK'S TIME #ehhhhhhh whatever any jokes that occur later in the au that do not match up timeline wise please just handwave it away #i run on the rule of funny if its funny then logic doesnt stand a chance #asks

[deatharmonics]

Mandy's bowlcut birth.

#she tried cutting it herself poor thing #saw #saw franchise #amanda young #john kramer #I didn't think about if this would logically fit in with the timeline I just thought it was silly #ms paint

[zvezdacito]

Just saw a post where in response to being asked to mention the destruction and atrocities Israel is doing to Gaza Palestine rn, OP responded with "I've been avoiding it because scrolling and seeing dead kids and sadness is bad for my mental health as a depressed person and there's nothing I can do about it either way"

You dont even need to share live footage of graphic injury if it's understandably triggering but that is not something you even need to share in order to spread awareness to your large following about Palestine, nor what was being asked from you to begin with you just brought it up on ur own😭 Beyond the live footage there are text only information posts you can share. Israel's occupation of Palestine goes beyond the October 7th siege so the info you could share doesn't need to be about dead kids it could just be Palestinian literature or history for context. Even Jewish history actually. Even just a show of solidarity literally even the greatest thing u could do online would not be that hard or complicated😭

Especially when all the mainstream news outlets are spreading biased narratives and people getting derailed from the point because of the Hamas coverage and stuff, other figures that people listen to and believe in taking a firm stance with Palestine is helpful. I think justifying not even wanting to try in your own little way to begin with through this "there's nothing I can do" or "other ppl are better for this than me" is extremely disingenuous. (Besides the fact that Palestinians in Gaza that the best thing anyone can do is share about them on social media exactly for these reasons so this literally is what you can do even as just one person)

I'm not gonna make conclusions on what the moral character of OP is over one statement that may have just been poor wording. And forcing someone to share when they really don't want to is counterproductive. But idk how you can bring up the fact that there is live footage of bloody children having to bury their parents and siblings as the sole survivors of their families, and not realize how priveleged you are for your greatest exposure to that only being behind a screen, and your greatest concern from it only being your mental health💀 Especially if you're a white american

#dont rb just wanted to get it off my chest lol💀 #literally its natural to find genocide distressing because it is but at the same time you can easily search up a post on Palestinian- #-literature and whatnot and not be exposed to graphic footage. #The most prominent posts ive seen do not involve graphic imagery or footage so i literally do not get what the logic of avoiding talking ab #Palestine at all is here lmao #oomf who rbed that onto my timeline if you see this you know who you are. not mad or condemning you its probably not even my place but the- #-point being made was very stupid ans pretentious sorry

[utdrmv-confession-box]

Transcript: Im personally not all that bothered by xtale using gendered pronouns for their humans or making them not nonbinary specifically because of the fact that the creator of xtale doesn't ignore or reject the fact that vanilla/canon/undertale Chara and Frisk ARE nonbinary and use they/them.

and also like nonbinary people can still use gendered pronouns so he/they xhumans headcanons go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

#undertale au #xtale #utdrmv confession #// I know I have seen some discourse surrounding this topic. #I will say that respecting the canon does make the situation of an AU human being gendered differently seem… better. for lack of- #-better phrasing. #If a creator gendered their AU humans differently but did NOT respect the canon then it would be a different story #and I would not be as accepting. #Though I will say I don’t think this line of logic should apply to alternate timelines #as alternate timelines derive from the original UnderTale story.

[shatterdome-underscore]

Nows as good a time as any to share my favorite personal headcanon that in the original timeline before Ron was in the picture Nick thought it would be rad to set up Glenn and Samantha after they met at a school-based grief counselling thing for kids who lost a parent because she was nice and asked Nick how he was feeling and then Terry did absolutely everything in his power to make sure their parents were never even in the same room again because absolutely fucking not

#they both tried to recruit grant and the twins to their cause. never worked out well #Glenn absolutely never went to grief counselling but imagine for a moment that he and nick went to a thing for kids who lost a parent #and then hey isnt that your friend from soccer and wow his mom is smokin hot #there would be so much hijinks. Nick thinks everyone thinks it would be rad. terry is very early terry about it #tbh terry was probably on his way with the twins to burn down Glenn's tourbus when suddenly his mom was bringing ron around #dndads #dungeons and daddies #dndads spoilers #not really but whatever #terry stampler #dndads terry jr #nick close #just sticking to that name for now bc its original timeline nick #samantha stampler #ron stampler #dndads glenn close #glenn close dndads #nick is very possessive of his dad but also consider: he was very lonely samantha is a therapist and he has traumatized kid logic #he probably didnt even realize she was meeting unmet emotional needs he probably just thought she was cool and the logical next step #is her marrying his dad. bc his dad is cool #and shes cool. and cool people get married #meanwhile we all know how terry felt about anyone ''''trying to replace his dad'''''“ or anything like that #god i love nick and terry so much (i am traumatized by losing a parent relatively young) i wish they got more screentime in s1 #in my head they were same trauma besties who were somehow each others biggest critics and best allies

[twpsyn-who]

A little bit of a cracky one- Soulmate AU in which when you die your soulmate dies too. Of course there are some rules, otherwise AoT would end dramatically fast, but we ain't talking about those yet.

The idea is that Eren needs Jean to stay alive. He straight up can't do his plan without Jean. That guy must survive at all cost, which sucks.

The problem? No matter what Eren does, Marco always overhears Berthold and Reiner talk and fucking dies. ALWAYS. Is like that scene is some canon event or some shit. It must happen. Is written in the stars for Marco Bodt to die at Reiner's hands (not necessarily in Trost, but is always because of Reiner.)

Cue to Eren going through multiple memories trying to somehow keep Marco alive AND still make Jean join the Survey Corps AND somehow trigger all the events in the right order to get the desired ending. Is a nightmare.

#I don't know man the idea of Eren trying to keep Jean's soulmate alive and getting extremely frustrated over being unable to do it #sounds extremely funny to me. #Like a time loop but you're trying to keep you frenemy's soulmate alive without fucking up the timeline #'By that logic don't Historia and Mikasa also-' I SAID THERE ARE RULES MAN. I don't know what are those yet but you know something #must happen to trigger or untrigger the soulmate part I don't know man I am tired all I want is to see Eren suffering over the JeanMarco #agenda like everyone else. #anyway #aot #jean kirstein #jeanmarco #aot jean #marco bodt #marco bott #snk #aot marco #soulmate au #It should be illegal this lack of JeanMarco soulmate aus

[aroaceleovaldez]

Speaking of their depiction of Will's anxiety- the Stymphalian birds were specifically chosen for him, because in the myths they can only be taken down by archery. But they're saying here that Will had a traumatic experience at the hands of monsters who have historically been defeated by archers. And then he didn't dedicate himself to archery at all? For the 5+ years he's been at camp? Reverse superhero origin story where instead of vowing to fight crime as the result of a loved one's death they just never leave the house ever again

Yeah! Or music/sound (which his satyr is specifically noted to be skilled at - Woodrow teaches the music class at CHB in The Hidden Oracle), which Will also doesn't do anything with besides his sonic whistle or healing hymns (which apparently are actually just his mom's songs and not hymns) at all until that gets retconned in TSATS. Like, we know he has a sonic whistle and healing hymns, but it's kind of a specific thing that he's not as musically or archery inclined as his siblings. So why half-retcon half of that, make these birds that can specifically only be defeated by sound and archery a major part of his backstory, and then... we never get any payoff for it? He faces them again, but it doesn't go any better than it did the first time? There's no building of his character there.

Also, Stymphalian birds are actually sacred to Artemis. Yknow. Apollo's twin.

I get that TSATS was trying to cameo a lot of monsters we've seen before, but making Stymphalian birds specifically part of Will's backstory feels kind of weird and doesn't make a ton of sense? Because when we see them in SoM it's implied they were specifically sent to CHB, so why would they try to maim the random kid? Especially a son of the sibling of the goddess they're sacred to?

The only explanation I would accept is that the Stymphalian birds that attacked Will in New York were actually the ones from CHB in Sea of Monsters after they flew away, and Will just got really unlucky. But timeline-wise that actually doesn't work, cause SoM and TTC are the same year, and Nico and Will are the same age, so Will should be 10 or 11 in SoM/TTC (depending on if you accept Nico is 13 or 14 in HoO). And TSATS tells us Will arrived to CHB at age eight, which would mean he's been at CHB longer than Percy has and so the birds couldn't be the same ones from SoM. (Yes I'm still mad about the absolutely broken timeline there.) Also if they're dissuaded by noise, there's no way they're going to land in the middle of New York City of all places.

There's just other monsters they could have picked that would have made more sense. Or even mortal animals! We know from previous books that there's a thing about mortal animals sometimes having vendettas against the children of gods associated with their species for curse reasons or etc! Apollo actually has a lot of those! And it can become enough of a problem even to young demigods that it can require them to come to camp early before monsters can begin tracking them (ex.: Annabeth with spiders - monsters seemed to only become a problem after she tried coming back home the first time). Why not have it be Will being attacked consistently by normal mortal crows, because he's a son of Apollo? Or snakes - in the first book Percy even mentions fighting off two snakes when he was a baby because they were sent to kill him. I mean, Will's from Texas! We can absolutely scrounge up some snakes for him to fight. And it would fit more with acknowledging how he's from Texas specifically, just like how much the book tries to emphasize that Nico is from Venice.

It feels like one of many dropped plot points that make me say I wish TSATS had been worked on longer so that these types of things could have been ironed out and maybe turned into something consistent.

#pjo #riordanverse #will solace #tsats #the sun and the star #the sun and the star spoilers #tsats spoilers #ask to tag #ask #Anonymous #fun fact based on TSATS' timeline for Will he'd only have been at camp about two fewer years than Annabeth #which means he DEFINITELY should have become cabin counselor after Lee instead of Michael #which is further evidence as to why the timeline for him in TSATS makes absolutely no sense #heck for all we know there's a possibility TSATS!Will should logically be cabin counselor rather than Lee based on seniority #we dont know when Lee joined or how old he was. but if he had fewer years than Will then Will should be cabin counselor #and apparently if Will has been there for like two years already by the first book it wouldn't be difficult for him to outrank his siblings #this is exactly why we dont usually see demigods who join chb before 12 - it throws everything off #unless it's like cabin 9 doing their weird game of hot potato or Nico who's on his own #you need to acknowledge that you're gonna end up with a cabin with a 12 year old in charge (like Annabeth/cabin 6) #not that cabin 7 didnt end up with a 12 year old in charge anyways in TLO but they only had 3 different 12 year olds to pick from #so its different. limited options and all when the rest of your cabin is dead #long post //

[henrysglock]

Bombs Away (or...not): What was happening in the world while Will was in the Upside Down?

As we're all so painfully aware, tensions with Russia/the USSR were a massive part of the 80s. A good portion of those tensions were surrounding the topic of nuclear war.

Well. Y'all aren't gonna believe...

This exercise was preceded by the 1983 Soviet Nuclear False Alarm:

Which narrowly avoided actual nuclear war.

Remember when they said the Side-Side UD was a toxic, radioactive wasteland?

And then I did some quick math and discovered that in order to produce a 7.4 magnitude earthquake, One would have needed to release the energy equivalent of a modern day nuclear bomb?

Remember how Indiana has multiple nuclear targets?

And I'm sure we're all familiar with the concepts of nuclear winter and mutually assured destruction...

Now, it would take about 10 Tsar Bombas or 25 Fat Man bombs to open the 4 massive rifts we see in Hawkins 1986...but what about just one little gate between a certain yellow dimension and a different, WW3-ravaged version of the RSU?

#I would LOVE to know how big the side-side UD actually is. I assume it reaches to the USSR given that the Shadow is there too. #And one of the few logical ways for it to be that big is if it's not a *created* dimension but a preexisting alternate universe. #Much like how the Twin Towers are still standing in the alternate dimension in Fringe...The side-side UD could very well be a #nuclear-war-ravaged version of the RSU. #st analysis #st theories #stranger things #timeline theory #radiationgate

[allthethoughtsandstuff]

reread the hunger games in the most fucked up order this year

may: mockingjay

november: the hunger games

november: tbosas

december: catching fire

#listen there’s a little bit of logic I swear #I read mockingjay in May bc I’d just rewatched all the movies and I was like hmm I haven’t read mockingjay in such a long time #and it was so good 10/10 #then in November I had to read thg for my lit for adolescents class #(yes thg was required reading for my college class I’m living in the best timeline) #then I saw tbosas movie and had to reread the book bc I forgot so much of it and the movie was so good #then I was like I might as well read cf bc it’s literally the best #the hunger games the ballad of songbirds & snakes #tbosas #thg #the hunger games #thg series #thg reread #suzanne collins

[noecoded]

did anyone even think about the fact that the beginning of nightbringer must be at a time in which human society is not nearly as advanced as it is now like the very beginnings. but the shitty versions of tikok and instagram still exist in the world even though devildom technology is notably behind human world tech because they have magic and didn't need to develop all of the tools humans did.this doesnt even make sense the obey me timeline is just fuckedup BWAHAH

#i cant even trying to logic it out is impossible at this point bc the game is constantly contridicting itself #this post literally doesnt even make sense bc the timelines been retconned like 10 times to the point where trying to find concrete indicat #ors of time passing and when things are supposed to occur is like impossible...

[transingthoseformers]

Shockwave with anyone.

1.) had sparkling before empurata and shadowplay

2.) was with sparkling before and throughout. Results up to you on how that effects whatever relationship and the possibility of the sparkling growing up alone with only post-empurata&shadowplay Shockwave as creator and company.

That is of course, if shockwave bothers dumping the resources into care however he sees fit

I feel like both situations would have very different consequences, but I feel like the first one has some seriously horrible moments to it that would be so fucking fun for us to see especially if say the kid is/was old enough to remember what things were like when Shockwave first came home (if he did at all) because I feel like that's horror movie material, considering everything I know of IDW Shockwave

But the second idea makes me wonder how Shockwave would be different if he had a bitlet so soon after a pretty traumatic event, and how it would change his plans. Because I don't think he'd write off an entire new person as illogical to keep. Sure I don't think he'll remain the primary caregiver at that point as to him it would be "logical" to foist parental duties onto someone else, but his plans span for so fucking long and he'd factor offspring into that

(I really like the first option though as there's a very cool scene to be had there, and you can factor in his ex found family students into this I think)

#maccadam #transformers #idw shockwave #unnamed character #basically: their childhood is probably going to start to suck either way #but i don't think Shockwave would entirely exit their life #he works on a special brand of twisty logic and typical idw luck would keep this unnamed sparkling in the game for a while #I'm feeling evil rn things would go interestingly #but there's also different angst to be had #I'm having the vivid image of purple Shockwave trying to cook some energon abomination on the stove for his kid #i say abomination meaning i have an unclear image #considering what soon happens in the idw timeline... yeah this is going to be interesting

[triscribeaucollection]

The Big One

So.

I’ve managed to get myself back into an MCU mindset, and have decided The Time Has Come to start working on my master fix-it fic. Or rather, what’s going to become my master fix-it fic series.

The to-do list so far includes:

-Natasha comes back after Steve returns the Soul Stone, but thanks to time travel screwiness she pops back into the Compound with everyone else and participates in the final battle against Thanos

-Tony still sacrifices himself, BUT! Another version of him, from a timeline where they lost the final fight and Thanos decided to be petty by erasing the entire human race from existence except Tony, gets brought to this universe a couple years later. Supposedly the two are nearly identical up to that fight, so he’s more than a little alarmed when no one recognizes the name Peter Parker

-Steve puts all the Stones back and comes home, passes on the shield to Sam, and moves on with his life instead of that bullshit ending that made no damn sense for his characterization

(-I have yet to watch Falcon and the Winter Soldier, so I dunno what will or won’t remain the same with those two, but I can promise There Will Be Shenanigans)

-WandaVision mostly plays out as per canon, but dagnabit, I want my Scarlet Witch to remain a superhero and a decent person. So! She stumbles across America Chavez, they find a universe where Agatha won and kept Billy and Tommy around as pets/servants, kick her ass, and bring the boys back with them to start a new life

-Eventually Vision will return as well, with newly constructed Viv as a peace offering. The twins are quite taken with their android sister and immediately start figuring out the best ways to get into trouble together

-May Parker receives medical attention soon enough to survive her wounds, albeit in a coma; Peter can’t legally visit her in the hospital but sneaks in a few times as Spider-man, and I promise I’ll eventually have her wake up for their tearful reunion, just gotta get through a few other things first

-Back to Tony: it’s a little awkward, feeling like he’s taking over another man’s life, but Morgan’s delighted by this turn of events and that’s really hard for anyone else to argue with. Even so, as grateful as he is to get his family back, Tony can’t help but feel frantic over what the heck happened to his other kid. The photo of him and Peter is still in the kitchen, and Pepper recognizes it when he shows her, knows that it’s been there ever since they moved into the house, but she has no clue who the kid is

-Eventually we get a big family reunion style event with all the Avengers and spouses and kids, new and old, and from there find a way to bring Peter back into the fold with a handy dandy loophole to restore memories of him at the same time. There will be fluff. There will be tears. There will be old characters and extra ones, a few gratuitous mentions and some background cameos, and I’ll find a way to wrap it all up with a big bow

...

-With an Epilogue, of course, featuring my Champions kids, because they’ve given us a fantastic Kamala Khan and I need to build on that

#marvel #mcu #endgame fix it #alternate timelines #comic book logic #I have been slowly building this thing up in my head for YEARS okay #reading a bunch of irondad hurt/comfort fics recently has made it a new priority #tony stark #peter parker #natasha romanoff #steve rogers #wanda maximoff #vision #pepper potts #may parker #avengers endgame #wandavision #falcon and the winter soldier #spider man movies #ms. marvel

[lecliss]

I'll never be able to take the theory that Vincent is Sephiroth's real father seriously cuz I cannot stress enough how important I think it is to the plot that Vincent wanted to fuck Lucrecia and did not get to.

#once again i jest but now i have to actually talk about it #like. okay we have no proof of any actual timeline for the dirge flashbacks other than. it was at least 30 years ago #so who knows how long they were at the manor. could have been weeks before The Incident. or months. or maybe a full year! who knows #but to me a timeline of like. they fucked and like a week later vincent found The Evidence and lucercia had her little breakdown #AND THEN EXTREMELY QUICKLY SHE AGREED TO THE EXPERIMENT AND IT COULD GO ONE OF TWO WAYS #1. she knew she was pregnant and thats why she agreed to the experiment cuz there was already a usable subject #and therefore she must have fucked hojo like a week after she fucked vincent AND THATS STUPID FAST FOR THESE EVENTS #or 2. she didnt know. agreed to the experiment. fucked hojo. and therefore thought seph was hojo's and NOT vincent's #AND BY THE WAY. i dont even actually believe hojo fucked either!!! cuz theyre both scientists so why wouldnt they think IVF was the best way #okay. well.... hojo is canonically a fucked up little freak. so. he might have taken the opportunity to... get in there. #also when did ivf even start being a thing? cuz that may play a factor into this if nomura even considered that #well either way lets just unfortunately assume hojo got in there #ITS STILL AN ODDLY FAST TIMELINE #also. fuck man doesnt lucrecia have a later line in dirge where she actually says shes in love with hojo? or something along those lines #IMPLYING ITS BEEN AWHILE SINCE SHE HAD THE FALLING OUT WITH VINCENT. YOU WOULDNT FUCK THE GUY AFTER ALL THAT SHIT #AND WHILE CLAIMING TO LOVE/CURRENTLY FALLING IN LOVE WITH HOJO!!!! LIKE CMON MAN!!!! SHE SUCKS BUT SHES NOT THAT KIND OF A MESS #i dont think vincent would fuck her until they sorted out their issues anyway and that CLEARLY didnt happen. #its VITAL that that did not happen!!!! #its just. if vincent and lucrecia fucked. everything would have had to happen EXTREMELY fast within like a 2 week timespan #and im just talking about up to when vincent learns shes partaking in the experiment. it was probably another week or two until vincent died #SO. logically it must have been like #fall in love->learn about the gimoire incident->refuse to speak to vincent->get obsessed with hojo->fall in love(?) #and then thats where i think its ambiguous on did the experiment become an idea before or after seph started to exist? #like chicken or the egg ya know. experiment idea or sephiroth zygote? #that feels fucked up to say. im so fucking sorry to seph to talk about this. yeah sorry i have to debate who fucked your mom bro #god imagine telling him that. like not even as a reveal thing cuz he knows who his father is. just like as a sick joke. your mom joke. #NO OH M Y GOD I HAVE A QUESTION NOW #in accordance to him having a photo of lucrecia in ever crisis. after he reads that jenova is an ancient (incorrect btw) #does he think that picture is still her? what about when he takes jenova's body from the lab???? #oh my god 30 tag limit. FUCK. i need like a rant blog for all this vincent talk now. my brain is going a mile a minute

[cats-of-eden-valley]

oh the temptation to make cat childhood longer so i can invent. kitten slings.

#like logically they would most likely have longer childhoods #but also that would send my timeline into chaos

[blueskittlesart]

oh dear god has my totk theory breached containment

#getting an influx of comments rn and. ugh. #sigh. i don't want to respond to anyone directly because that rarely ends well for me. #but let's think logically about the writing process for a second. let's think about chekhov's gun. #why the hell would they write in a specific past hero and princess if they were not going to use that specific past iteration. why. #why would it make any sense to go back any further than the very clear anchor in time botw gives us with the ancient sheikah and that hero #as writers they want to make things easily understandable. they want it to MAKE SENSE. randomly throwing players around the timeline withou #an anchor doesnt make any sense. which is WHY we have the anchor of 10k years ago set up so early in botw. the payoff will come in totk. #also why the hell would ganon make 2 seperate calamities. why would the first one not just be the human ganon. just. ugh #nvm im rapidly losing plausible deniability about what comment this is about i should shut the fuck up #personal

[taniushka12]

one day im gonna make fanart of MY fbc director!alan au with barry being Head of Communications and his right hand man (a win for nepotism!) because theres No Way hes being the director all on his own theres just No Way

#alan in control yes yes whatever who cares can we PLEASE talk about barry in this au? now THATS where my moneys at #tani's personal shit #real talk i kinda hate this au bc i cant find any logic in the timeline like. is this post aw2? what happened to jesse then? #cant be alan instead of jesse who found the gun after trench killed himself bc he was trapped in the dark place atm! #and it couldn't be Before the events of aw1 bc WHAT reason would there be for that to even happen! #it makes no sense timeline wise and how can i set a characterization accordingly? i hate it! #give me a good backstory that fits timeline & characterization wise and i Might consider it but otherwise it just vexes me.. #head of communications barry though. he compels me 👀 #head of communication barry being the right hand man of director alan NOW we're COOKING