DCEU Upcoming Slate: Films (The Final Countdown & The SafGunn Starter Platter)
The last time we all gathered here, I talked about my feelings on the DCEU in the last ten years because I felt like as the DCEU was preparing to come to a close, it was a good time to kind of look back before the new slate of content was announced.
There are, of course, four films left in what is known as the DCEU. I actually don't think people will stop calling it that? But I think, for me, the term DCEU really kind of goes along with this library of films more than whatever is coming next. "DCEU," just because of All The Everything, evokes a kind of messy feeling that I think will end up being replaced as the new slate starts releasing, and so I wanted to do a post where I could kind of talk about those last four movies as they get ready to come out and the five movies that were announced to start off what I'm calling the SafGunn Slate.
You may have noticed that the cover image for this post is a still of Florence Pugh at the end of Midsommar, which is of course not a CBM at all. But I do feel like the way that Midsommar is very much a cornerstone of Good For Her Cinema is a good way to summarize my feelings on the DCEU coming to a close and a new (mostly possibly we'll see) canon coming together, because to me Midsommar is very much a "You're Going To Suffer But It's Going To Feel Good Even If It Might Not End As Pretty As It Looks" kind of movie.
Also The Flash trailer dropped and I'd rather just get all the movies out of the way instead of doing a post about the trailer than the other movies so let's go.
Shazam: Fury of the Gods-- 03/17/23
I actually feel like, other than The Lost Kingdom, this is the franchise I'm kind of the most sad about seeing come to a close because the first Shazam was a movie that I think really captured the comic book-y feel that I've been wanting out of movies of this genre for a really long time. It really wasn't afraid to embrace the bright colors and goofy concepts and kind of playing-in-a-sandbox feeling that comes from a good superhero story. It was a world the directors were clearly very excited to play in and wanted to treat as a dangerous world without taking itself too seriously, because it is at the end of the day Big With Superpowers and that is a very silly concept.
But really, I'm soooo excited to see this one, even if it means there probably won't be any more of this Shazamily for a while. It's a fun set of characters and you can tell the creative team is so pumped to really dig into the magic side of the DC Universe, which is a lot more than I can say for other similar franchises and we won't talk about that right now.
The Flash-- 06/16/23
I'm not actually using a gif from the trailer here, because this one was actually there when I searched The Flash and I feel like this sums up my feelings about this movie best because Every Single Thing That Has Ever Given Me Pause About The DCEU & Even Some Parts Of DC Culture Has Touched This Movie and like. Okay.
*presses mouth to the microphone*
I'm going to see this movie because I want to see more non-Trinity content. I want to see Flash movies and Green Lantern movies and that Black Canary movie that I am fairly sure I am not getting anymore but I still want it I would like to see it I would like to have it. But I am not excited for this film and I want to carefully outline why.
I kind of want to start from the core of the Flash stuff outward and just come out and say upfront: Flashpoint is not a bad concept. But the original story did nothing for me and nothing for the mythos of The Flash or the DC Universe at large except make Barry Allen More Like Batman and Give Us The New 52 (which had a wonderful stellar Orm I adored but very little else). Also, the more I think about the Flashpoint story, the more and more not absurd but illogical it feels, not so much in that the characters are acting illogically but the writers are not thinking logically about how the characters should be in this situation.
Like, I do not see the logic behind Barry's mother being alive keeping Hal from the ring, or causing Bruce to die instead of his parents, or causing Superman to get locked up by the government. And I suppose you could make the argument that "well, Eobard made sure the timeline would break perfectly in a way that prevents the Justice League from coming together so no one could stop him" and???? I feel like Eobard as a villain works best when he's so obsessed with Barry Allen and so obsessed with the legacy of the Flash that from a big picture distance, his plans look airtight and foolproof, but when you actually dig into them, there are holes and flaws caused by sheer hatred-driven oversight and him not actually understanding what makes The Flash The Flash.
I also feel like it is a SHAME that the FIRST big-screen Flash solo film is Flashpoint, because Flashpoint is the kind of story that you need to be very emotionally invested in Barry Allen for. For Flashpoint to work, you need to be familiar with how Barry acts and thinks and feels, and between One (Two) Justice Leagues and no other appearances, I don't think this is a conflict that's been earned yet, so the movie hasn't really sold me on its basic premise.
I also am,,,,,,,,,,I don't want a Batman-heavy Flash movie. If I am seeing a Flash movie, I want to be there because the Flash characters are being done well. I don't really think having Batman there as a mentor figure for Barry does much other than exacerbate the Batman Content Loop DC is stuck in right now. So um. I'll be glad when this is over.
...Anyway.
Blue Beetle-- 08/18/23
As someone who has a deep fondness for the two most recent Blue Beetles, I'm so utterly DELIGHTED that Jaime is going to be introduced to a broader audience. I think there's a lot of fun you can have with his character because while he shares a lot of attributes with Billy Batson-- powers he didn't ask for, being the bridge between our world and a larger and possible more threatening force, having to grapple with regular teenage coming of age struggles and the very grown-up responsibility of protecting the world and his loved ones-- he has a very different feel than Billy.
Jaime has a blood family that he has a strong bond with right off the bat. He has a lot of different perspectives and ethos influencing him as he comes into being a hero. He very much does not have to CHOOSE to be a hero. And his powers don't come with the euphoria of sudden adulthood, but the dysmorphia of having an alien potentially taking over his body as a weapon if he lets it.
Not to mention, the film is definitely going to be touching on the legacy aspect of Jaime's chosen identity, if the inclusion of Victoria Kord (who JUST popped up in Blue Beetle: Graduation after just straight up never existing???? interesting) and the featuring of Kord Tech on the concept art aren't big enough hints. It all kind of dovetails into this really relatable story of struggling with identity and your place in the world that I'm SO excited to see come to the big screen.
Aquaman & The Lost Kingdom-- 12/25/23
You know what blog you're on.
And if not, you can have this: *presses mouth to microphone again* Fish Man Buddy Adventure Good.
And Now The New Stuff They Announced
Superman: Legacy-- 07/11/25
I feel like this is a very predictable and safe option to TRULY start the reboot with, and I'm not super pumped about having another Superman again. It doesn't really have as much to do with Henry Cavill as much as it has to do with the fact that we've had a LOT of movie Supermen over the years-- a LOT.
I do think if this movie took Superman: Man Of Tomorrow as a blueprint, they'd be on a really strong track to start off with. The title here makes me think of that newer animated Superman movie immediately, and when I actually went to watch it, it had just about everything I wanted out of a modern-day Superman movie.
My biggest concern here, I think, is that James Gunn is going to be writing it (I don't think I'd want him to take double-duty and direct, for that matter). James Gunn to me works a lot better with hard-to-empathize with, hard-to-like characters-- the Guardians, the Suicide Squad, Peacemaker-- they're his bread and butter. Superman is very much not that kind of character. He's an everyman, he's kind, he's selfless, he's a little dorky. It's not that I think James Gunn is incapable of writing such a character, but I definitely haven't seen anything by him that would suggest he'd be able to do well with a character like that, so I'm just going to have to wait and see.
The Authority-- TBD
All I could find in here were Wrestling gifs so have the villains from the second Scooby-Doo Wrestlemania movie ig
I'm not super familiar with the characters DC bought out from WildStorm, so I'm not really going to say much here except I would hope to see Apollo and Midnighter, and also if we're going to implicitly keep the Suicide Squad part of the mythos in canon, I don't think we need a second Secret Edgy Government team.
The Brave & The Bold-- TBD
So we're really doing Damian, huh.
I don't really have anything against Damian as a character, I just think starting out our Batman at a point where the first Robin we meet is Damian is a fairly risky move. It's really going to be hit or miss, especially if Morrison's work is going to be used as the main source for this to pull from. I love what Morrison did with Green Lantern and their work on that book, but I'm not overly familiar with or fond of their work on Batman barring their rework of Damian's origin that made me and a lot of other fans cry justice for Talia.
I think the only thing that interests me about this project is the potential to FINALLY see an extended Batfam in live-action. I think Batman in the wider cultural context has suffered without a lot of the other characters from his mythos around to challenge him and give him another perspective to bounce off of, so getting to see him with Damian and potentially other Robin and Batgirl alums will be a nice change of pace.
Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow-- TBD
I'm actually excited at the prospect of a Supergirl project so close to the start of things. I think for this to really succeed, they need to get as far away from the TV series as possible, and I mean that lovingly. The CW series and Melissa Benoist did a lot to bring the character to a wider audience, but I don't think it was a particularly good Kara or even one useful to the larger DC mythos.
I think for Kara to work best, she needs to be a foil to Superman in a way. What I like most about a Kara is when it's very clear that she doesn't have a lot of influence from human culture in the way Clark does. She's more brash, more arrogant, more rough-and-tumble. She is, in many ways, stronger than Clark, and the CW series I think leaned too far into making Kara more SIMILAR to Clark to get the audience to like her more. She's not without empathy and compassion, but she expresses it in a very different way from Clark, and I think that's important to show.
Also my greatest fear stems from the fact that this is supposed to be based on a Tom King work, and we all know how I feel about Heroes In Crisis. And how he writes my special boy. But we won't get into that here. We'll save that for next time.
Swamp Thing-- TBD
I'm one of those people who remembers when Swamp Thing came out and was really sad when it got cancelled even though DC Universe as a streaming service was always doomed to fail, so to see Swamp Thing included on the new slate perks me up a bit.
The magical corners of comic mythologies have always been some of my favorites, and I think Swamp Thing can really help open the doors to that for DC. Swamp Thing and John Constantine and the Endless are all very linked, and I know two of those are very widely beloved by comic fans, so this Swamp Thing project has the potential to either go really well or crash and burn horribly.
But this one seems to be the farthest off of the five films, so I'm not going to put too much thought into it now. Also, if they can get Guillermo Del Toro on board, we're set.
In Conclusion,
I think there's a lot of good things we're leaving behind for the moment, but frankly, there's a LOT of be excited about, and that's just on the film side. I think these last four movies are going to be a little bittersweet-- some more bitter and some more sweet-- but I think a year's break from some DC content is going to lead the way into some of the most promising years for the fandom in film to come, and I would rather be looking ahead, in the end, than dwelling too much on what we're losing.
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