#but then you also have fans that hate any aspect of fanon and having fun like what's it to you if i want to make tim and damian get along

[plutoslvr]

being a tim liker is hard sometimes because on one side you have the never-touched-a-comic fanon tim fan and on the other side you have "I'm never going to read a tim comic and just hate on him from what I've seen." like there's so much mischaracterisation of him I'm going to go insane.

#like when fanon fans decided dick tried to throw tim into arkham??? #LIKE WHAT #they're so quick to hate on dick or make him the bad guy and jason this saviour dude when both jason and tim are grown people and can deal #with their own stuff #but then you also have fans that hate any aspect of fanon and having fun like what's it to you if i want to make tim and damian get along #tim drake #dick grayson #jason todd #damian wayne #batman #batfam

[hopeswriting]

ok so i was just reading your tags on a post talking about skull/reborn and i kinda wanna know how you think their relationship would work or the kinda writing you trust for them? (i kinda wanna write my own skull/reborn fic lol but wanna keep them in character while doing so)

hi, thank you for the ask!

okay so, i’ve only written this ship substantially like twice myself lol (tho i’m not unfamiliar with writing their dynamic as i’ve written my fair share of poly!arco fics), so i wouldn’t call myself a specialist of them, but i do like to think i have a good grasp on both their characters. and my issue is that fanon doesn’t often get them right in and of themselves to begin with, and so of course when writing them together/about their dynamic, it inevitably gets them wrong. (imo anyway, and here’s the disclaimer that this is all of course only my personal opinion, which everyone is welcome to discuss!)

i don’t think it’s on the fans tho! the way i see it they’re canonically kinda tricky to pin down to begin with, both individually and together. reborn is because even if he’s the co-protagonist, he’s all about being the one in control, the one remaining steady and unfazed no matter what, and the anchor and guiding force of tsuna’s, and by proxy of most of everything that happens in the manga too. which means it’s easy to reduce him to that know-it-all, perfect-at everything, better-than-everyone-else god-like figure, and to overlook the other facets of his personality that nuance that side of him (because i do think that god-like writing he’s often given is definitely in character for him to some extent, don’t get me wrong), because in comparison they appear a lot less often throughout the manga. and even if you do take them into account, it’s hard to pin down when and how and how much reborn allows those other aspects of himself to come out.

skull’s tricky simply because we got very little about him, making him almost a blank canvas, so it’s easier to just make that canvas into whatever we need it to be, while overlooking or disregarding the little we did get about him. and when you do try to take it into account, we got so little about him it’s hard to extrapolate on it to a substantial extent, or draw a pattern between them to get an idea of what being “in character” would even mean for him.

meanwhile when you write them together, i think their dynamic is actually less tricky and just plainly misunderstood. like we can all agree they’re canonically on bad terms, or that there’s beef between them at the very least, canon makes it pretty clear. it’s also pretty easy to guess why that is, but where most people lose me is on the how it all comes together to them having the dynamic they have in canon. and basically, not only there's no actual hate or animosity between them, i think more importantly there’s no disrespect between them or any intention to hurt.

now the last two ones were mostly about reborn, because no matter how he may (purposefully) act or what he may say, if you look closely it’s clear he actually doesn’t question skull’s place among the arco, nor does he question the fact he has the skills to back it up, even if, yes, he’s simultaneously aware skull is the weakest of them, and uses that fact to make fun of him and shape the way he acts with him. he does only make fun of him tho, because reborn’s intention is never to actually hurt him or be cruel with him or look down on him, etc, etc. he only ever means to tease.

which doesn’t mean skull still isn’t hurt by the way he acts with him or doesn’t resent him for it, because he very much is and does. but i don’t think it’s the kind of hurt depicted in most fics that’d make him leave the arco or other such extreme reactions or show of rejection. because yes there’s no actual hate or animosity between them, but also more importantly there’s comradeship between them, just as there is between the other arco, whatever you think comradeship means here. reborn and skull do care about each other.

so like, it’s all about boundaries, instead of them taking an issue with each other’s personality the way it’s often made to be in fics. because being both aware of the other’s background (reborn being mafia to his core and skull being a former civilian), they both get and understand and respect where the other comes from being the way they are, that’s not the issue between them. but then reborn thinks he was able to infer all on his own where skull’s boundaries are, and thinks they both tacitly met each other in the middle, but meanwhile instead of skull assuming he just doesn’t know better and correcting him about it, he assumes reborn does it on purpose because he doesn’t acknowledge him. and this is where it gets super funny because they apparently never got the opportunity to clear that one misunderstanding between them for, like, decades lmao. like, by the time the manga ends they’re still misunderstanding each other, and still aren’t even aware of it to be able to do anything about it. 😭😂😂

not sure if that was all very clear? but if it wasn’t, i actually already got the opportunity to talk about this in this reblog chain about fanon!reborn where we also got to talk about his dynamic with skull! here’s another one about his dynamic with skull, and this one adds onto why i think fanon!reborn isn’t, in fact, in character for canon!reborn. and because this is also relevant and helps to get the full picture of where i’m coming from with this post, here’s my thoughts on skull and how to write him in character.

so to answer your question, i personally think that for their relationship to work, they both need to first realize they started on the wrong foot and have yet to do anything about it, while in the meantime still making them care about each other. that is, only in the cases where you want them to be on better terms with each other of course. as far as just writing their dynamic as it is in canon, you just need to write the strains in their relationship not because they don’t like each other or anything of the sort, but because they’re wrongly assuming the wrong things about each other.

and likewise for the type of writing i trust with them. for me it has to be one that takes care to keep the balance between all those different aspects of their dynamic, and how their respective personality affects it too one way or another. it has to keep the balance between “hey, i do care about you and i’ve literally no intention to hurt you, never had” and “hey, you’re still very much hurting me, and i’m hurt even more because you don’t seem to care about it even when i’m repeatedly telling you you are hurting me??” and “i hear you but also not because this is one of those times my high self-esteem is backfiring against me, and so i’m not even considering the thought i might be wrong about how i’m definitely not crossing your boundaries” and “yeah, this sure is one of those times you being among the best of the best backfires against you, because i’m not even considering the thought you’re not purposefully going out of your way to hurt me, and aren’t well aware you are hurting me”.

and when i say their personalities also affect their dynamic, it’s how you also need to keep the balance between “you’re a former civilian, so of course you react and are affected more strongly to the way i am, but that doesn’t mean you’re still not aware i mean no harm like everyone else” and “you’re mafia to your core, so of course you don’t care to treat me any less roughly/violently than you usually treat people, even knowing i’m a former civilian because you’re likely looking down on me for it” and “from my mafia’s pov i’m definitely meeting you in the middle here, what do you mean you want me to try harder??” and “from my former civilian’s pov this doesn’t look like the middle at all, and wow, you really don’t care about how hard i’m already trying to be up to your standards, huh?”.

and this is where i think it’s tricky to get their dynamic right, because the thing is those assumptions they make about each other are all based on true facts they know for a fact about each other. reborn is mafia to his core and presumably has been all his life, while skull is a former civilian and became mafia only later in his life when he was chosen to be an arco. but instead of them putting both these facts together and going “okay well, there’s no way meeting each other in the middle would mean the same thing for the both of us, and there’s no way we can just accurately guess what it means for the other without explicitly talking about it, so let’s do that first things first”, we got all of the above instead.

also one last thing tho you might not need it, but even in what i call the good timeline arco fics where they start on the right foot right away, this is still worth keeping in mind. not all of it of course, but reborn being mafia while having the personality he has, and skull being a former civilian while having the personality he has will always shape their dynamic no matter what. the same way it’d shape skull’s dynamic with any other character that wasn’t a former civilian too of course, the other arco namely come to mind, but we’re talking about reborn here, you know lol. and not only that, but i think reborn in particular is really the perfect example of this.

hope this helped, and good luck with your fic!

#katekyo hitman reborn #khr #khr meta #khr reborn #khr skull #khr asks #mob-sama

[sideprince]

Snape asks #16-18, if you're still doing them? Super excited to see your answer to #16, especially after your Eileen deep-dive.

Relieved to see I'm not the only one who has already forgotten I've reblogged this set of Snape asks before 😂.

16 and 18 are answered here (from the the first time you asked lolllll). My answers haven't changed or expanded much, but someone asked me once what I thought about Snape's family life and upbringing. It seems that subject might be a special interest now I think of it. . . but there's so little to go on!

And I do still feel strongly about what I said in the answer to 18, that a lot of the Snapedom seems to have taken the issue of his triggered, feral side not being adequately portrayed in the films to a bit of an extreme by saying he's a feral little man, when I think there's much more to him than that. As your own breakdown of his speech patterns showed, he's an excessively controlled man who has specific moments when he loses that control and becomes feral. I get why people identify with that and want to emphasize that aspect of him, but I am, unfortunately, a hopeless pedant and obsessed with character development and Snape's character is extremely well developed and rounded. Painting him as one dimensional doesn't do him justice. And hey, everyone should be able to enjoy characters however they choose because that's what fandom is about! I'm by no means unquestionably correct in my views, but I sure do love to argue them lol. The thing that I feel strongly about is when I feel like people make definitive statements about a subjective thing like a character, and do so in ways that leave less room for exploring that character and meta around them, instead of creating more.

17. What rubs you the wrong way about how he’s portrayed in fanon/fan fiction?

I don't really read fan fiction so I can't speak about that much, only about what I see on Tumblr. I don't think a lot of things rub me the wrong way, really, not even what I said above: he's a complex, rounded character and sure, it irks me when people focus on only particular aspects of him. But I also don't feel all that strongly about it. I'll talk about it in an ask like this, but I won't go out of my way to comment on anyone's post about how wrong they are or anything (though I might challenge their post for the fun of debating and delving into meta), because there is no right or wrong. The whole point of fandom is that everyone makes it what they want it to be. If someone sees Snape as a feral little man and that makes them happy or gives them catharsis etc. then for them he's a feral little man! If someone else sees him as a controlled genius and that's what gets them up in the morning, then for them he's a controlled genius! Good times all around.

Here's what it's about for me: I think it's interesting debating why he might be a feral little man or not, or a controlled genius, or whatever else, and poring over the text to find reasoning for why. But I don't have any real stake in this game aside from a love of literary analysis and character study. So it's not even that there are any portrayals of Snape that rub me the wrong way; there are portrayals that I might feel make no sense because my reading of the text is different. But I usually shrug and keep scrolling when I come across them on my dash. The same way that someone enjoys delving into why Snape is a feral little man, I enjoy delving into meta in general.

Fandom is about infinite readings of characters and stories and exploring their possibilities! That's the whole fun of it! I don't think there's room for hate in it, even though some people sure try hard to carve some out. Some people project onto characters, others just find joy or love in them, and it's all great! I don't have anything deeper to say. Snape is a fictional character - he's not real, go nuts! Who am I to be rubbed the wrong way by what someone else's vision of him is?

#asks

[mxddyhero]

oh ok more juju questions do you have any juza moments/thingies that you dislike?

YES. not necessarily his fault but I don't like how him wanting to do more traditionally "feminine" things like wear skirts/dresses or wearing makeup is played up for laughs when yuki is Right There and most of the other guys have done the exact same thing. I don't think it's unreasonable for certain people to express discomfort if they're made to do that kinda thing if they don't want to, but Juza has clearly expressed interest in it and rather than have the support the rest of mankai has, he's always immediately shut down.

Usually it's banri, but at some point I want yuki or taichi to encourage him to go for it and really hype him up, yk? Gender is fluid and personal and there is literally no excuse for it to be treated as a gag in a game where there's so much lgbtq+ coding. Juko was a fun little thing, but it was clearly an act and I don't think he should have to act like a stereotypical girl if that's not how he's comfortable, but let him do the other stuff, yk? They literally have a tailor and professional makeup artist, they can SURELY make it tasteful. They have the power to do it. They're just choosing not to and the day they actually let him do it without snide comments or making it a joke is the day I ascend.

If I could kill whoever was responsible for this... /hj

ALSO /nbh but I hate how people just see him as. Half of a ship. He is such a nuanced, brilliant character but some people treat him as just a blank insert to go with whoever they wanna pair him with. I like ships well enough, hell im a juban enthusiast, but when people are erasing chunks of personality and ignoring aspects of his character just to slot him into a ship it makes me 😐 so many people write him as just a himbo but he !! Has so much more to him and I don't think it's fair to him.

Also, censoring for myself later ✌️

I fucking hate the brocon shit. It makes me so fucking uncomfortable and that's why I have the other hy*do muted and filtered I do not like him or his character at all sorry. I was so excited to meet the rookies bcs i hadnt read up on them before they debuted, i just was vaguely aware of them through fanon yk? And i was ESPECIALLY excited for him and sure he was gonna be my fave, but when they pulled that shit, I dipped ✌️ He is not real to me, sorry to his fans

#literally none of these r his fault tho 🫶 he is just perfect. to me #asks and answered #beloved mutual #taichissu #juza hyodo #shut up hahn anyway #for filters for future me -> #kumon hyodo

[the-13th-rose]

👀 questions eyyyy?

Here's some f/o questions I've randomly thought of that I don't think I see much on ask memes!:

😤🎯 What's a popular fanon interpretation of your f/o that you just cannot, for any reason at all, stand to see? The kind that has you like "LOOK HOW THEY MASSACRED THEM"?

🤣💖 What are things your f/o does that always, without fail, earn a laugh from you?

😳💞 What about your f/o makes your heart flutter? Personality? Epic moments? Their voice? Lay it on me!

🥺💬 If you could say one thing to your f/o and know for sure it would be delivered to them and they be able to react to it, what would it be?

thanks for chatting! This got SO long so check under the cut!

You may have already seen me complain about Ventress's eventual canon development and how a lot of the fandom that actually makes stuff for her seems to embrace that (basically, her endgame in canon was getting into a short-lived relationship with a jedi I don't personally care for besides just his role in her death - which eventually led to her doing the egregiously ooc (imo) thing of sacrificing herself for the guy. Sorry but imo she did not undergo enough heroic character development for me to believe that she would do that for anyone, much less a good guy. And she also doesn't seem the type to allow love to turn her foolish.)

The only thing I can say about Beast is that I dislike the Beast!Wirt concept. It doesn't feel in-character and I dislike the idea of Beast being able to possess people at all, it feels dismissive of his actual more subtle scare factor and him being able to do so would open up a world of cinemasins nitpicking for the plot (ie; "why would Beast have to convince the Woodsman to help him if he could just possess him instead"). I'm chill with the corrupting influence of the black turtles, but the dog-beast wasn't literally intelligently possessed by the Beast himself. It was kinda just berserk and hungry.

I might end up with something to say about all or most aha...uh for Biowulf I haven't seen many fanon takes on him (the Generator Rex fandom is mostly dead and those who remain don't care about Wulfy much) but the one I have seen that I dislike is the belief that he was a dog pre-mutation. Like, seriously? Do you just think every animal-like E.V.O. (mutant monsters from the show for the uninformed) was never human. Sorry, but Biowulf is a biker dude to me. He may have always been doglike in some ways, but I refuse to believe he was once non-sapient, or that he'd regress to that state if his mutation was ever reversed.

I. have many opinions on Grievous. many of which are not popular perhaps. Uh the thing that bugs me the most is people who write him off completely as a goofy meme character. Yes, he's funny sometimes, he has humorous aspects to his character, and fundamentally some things about him are inherently ridiculous, but I really dislike the fans who will scoff at people like me that believe in the potential for complexity and depth for him. And yes, I have seen fans do that. I have seen fans make fun of in-depth character analysis or more complex fan interpretations of him because "he's a funny meme villain". Star Wars is a hellscape of a fandom and there are so many assholes here. Many that don't even seem to REALIZE that they're being jerks. I like the memes with him, but I hate seeing him pushed aside and disregarded when it comes to the popular idea of getting really deep with TCW's symbolism and themes. I don't understand why only the "good guys" are allowed to be involved in that and all the villains must remain as basic kid-show-level evil as their vanilla selves. Especially when the show itself dabbled in the idea of at least some of the "bad guys" being complex (even though I wound up disliking a lot of what was done with Ventress)

I also have many opinions on Harry Warden!!! I. Really dislike the way the slasher fandom has chosen to reduce him to cannibalism jokes and like nothing else! A. There is so much more to his concept than just the cannibalism and when you take a step back, the cannibalism is actually probably one of the LEAST interesting things about him!! and B. Unlike other horror cannibals like Hannibal or the Sawyers, there is nothing to suggest Harry actually LIKED eating his coworkers and canonically there's no mention of him ever trying it again. It was a desperate act to avoid starvation that without a doubt worsened the trauma the cave-in and weeks of isolation likely already caused him. And this is not me trying to woobify a slasher, I genuinely do not believe he is a willing cannibal or a purely opportunistic killer. To portray him as either, imo, weakens him as a character and makes him less interesting in a sea of willing cannibals and purely opportunistic killers. The lovecore aesthetic can only carry him so far alone.

The only thing I can say about Licorice Cookie's fanon interpretations that thoroughly irks me is. like basically every popular ship for him. I'm sorry, and you're free to enjoy your ships at your leisure, but Licorice is absolutely not the guy to fall for bubbly goody-goody types. He's embarrassingly obsessed with villainy and darkness. I like the goth x sunshine ship dynamic as much as the next guy, but someone as hellbent on being a campy villain as Licorice would absolutely not fawn over anyone who isn't just as into villainy as he is.

The Rango fandom is basically nonexistent but for the most part I think the few people who post about Jake do get it right. The only thing that irks me is when he's described as a "redeemed" villain. Buddy, developing respect for the hero and choosing not to kill him as a result, is not full redemption. He doesn't express regret for a single evil thing he did, he doesn't apologize, he doesn't even help the hero outside of telling him the equivalent of "good job, dude" and carrying the true villain off to kill him off-screen (which he didn't do for Rango anyway. He just wanted revenge against the true villain for betraying him!) Rattlesnake Jake is super fucking cool but he is not redeemed. And that's part of why he stays cool from introduction to final shot!

For Shockwave, I don't actually find it all that annoying, but I am very confused as to why half of his fans seem to ship him with the cop he kills. I get enemies-to-lovers and I get hate ships and I get the kinky appeal of two enemies hatefucking and I even get the kinky appeal of a villain stalking and obsessing over one of their canon victims. I just want to know why most of the stuff I've seen of them is complete fluff. What is the appeal of taking a ship where the main appeal would be how conceptually messed up it is...and then stripping it of any messed up elements. I've seen that happen to multiple conceptually messed up ships and it just...feels so boring. Be shameless, bro. Embrace the fucked up elements of your ship.

lololol sorry for taking so long on the first question :D but you probably wanted an essay anyway if you're messaging me about my blorbos. For the laugh question, I absolutely love Demongo's laugh and his excitement over violence. He has such an adorable laugh and I always smile and giggle when I hear it. If you can get into the independently revamped version of FusionFall or play the Flashpoint archived version, there's a kind of follower pet (they're called Nanos) based on him and GOD all of his lines are pure joy. He laughs, says cute evil things, and is so sweet to the player in his own evil way.

Licorice makes me laugh in a similar way, because he's just SUCH a dork and it's cute as hell. I just hope he knows that even though I laugh at his attempts to be intimidating, I still very much love him and am rooting for him.

I absolutely love NOS-4-A2's mannerisms and little speech quirks, I can never get over him excitedly somersaulting in the air when he's telling Zurg how he took over Star Command HQ in his debut episode. He's so proud of himself!!! And "OH, don't take that tone with ME, Zurg!" always cracks me up. He's a very funny robo-serial killer.

Ozzie makes me laugh with his rampant horniness, really. I'm the kind of person who gets very giggly when flustered positively. And he's the kind of guy who knows this and finds it adorable. We make each other laugh :)

Shen just makes me laugh with how he reacts to not being treated seriously. He gets flustered easily, he's angered easily, and in both cases it's very funny. When he's not actually willing to throw feather knives at you, he can only yell indignantly, and that's just cute :) It's one of his most bird-like moments, angrily squawking at you because he doesn't like how you looked at him.

I can't even go from f/o to f/o on the third question because we would be here FOREVER. The short of it is, I discovered my voice kink through selfshipping and it's why my list is like 85-90% animation. For a lot of mine, it's the voice that initially drew me to them and/or made me stick around when the visuals drew me in first. Even a lot of my casual friends-with-benefits f/os are voice-based.

Oh gosh, I have no answer for the fourth question. I'd be so nervous to say anything! I guess I just want them to know I love them :)

[light-lanterne]

Honestly coming from being heavy in the Sterek fandom for years we THRIVED on AUs. like, sure, werewolves, fun. But also Merthur, Destiel, Malec, etc. big name ships (with their own fandom problems, but that's not the point lol) with heavy supernatural content very specific to each source materiel. That's fun for a while, but it gets stale QUICK. Usually fandoms live and die off of AUs. It's one of the most fun and interesting and creative parts of fandoms. I've also literally never seen this happen in any other fandom and it is the weirdest, mind boggling situation. I can't fathom why anyone would WANT to stunt themselves from being creative. From asking, 'What if?' That's one of the best parts of fandoms. Just speculating and pondering. ESPECIALLY if the source material lets you down, you always have the what ifs to fall back on for entertainment. It used to be, honestly, fandom could create such interesting content that the show commonly failed in comparison. It just couldn't hold a candle to how people can create such beautiful, interesting things out of virtually nothing. Maybe it came with the death of weekly releases, where we spent a week each episode hypothesizing. IDK I wish there was a way to change it but. Shows almost over so. IDK maybe when the show is dead people will get off everyone's back and move to a new show, so the ones who are interested in being creative will be able to create in peace.

Don't like don't read is a very common statement but it shouldn't be needed for just everything ever in a specific ship. Why are you even in a ship to begin with if you're gonna hate on every possible thought. It's as if people can't separate fact from fiction? Canon from fanon? There's nothing wrong at all with making stuff up for the fun of it. If you only want source material content... go watch the show? Why are you participating in fandom if everyone is suddenly not allowed to change one fraction of an inch of it? I understand appreciating the source materiel, but I also don't see why it's a problem to take that source materiel and flip it on it's head. Why do people care so much...? IDK. I don't even publish my stuff (this might be partially why lmao) but it's still super frustrating. Sorry for ranting in your inbox lol Sorry you get so much flak for literally no reason

hello ! i've got nothing to add to what you said; i've been in a lot of fandoms too and you're completely right !! au's are the way things survive in periods of inactivity / after the show (movie, manga or whatever) ends !!! so it is indeed frustrating when people actively sabotage this huge aspect of fan media :\

please don't apologise for ranting, and thank you for being so kind ! i hope you have a great day or night (and that this anti-au wave passes at last >.< ) !!

#💕 #🧸

[eddiemunsongf]

different anon here lol. enough people who like billy/find him interesting ignore this aspect of his character so i feel like i have to ask. are you someone who recognizes that billy's actions towards lucas in s2 stemmed from racism? i feel like it was pretty obvious subtext but a lot of non-billy haters ignore that and it makes me uncomfortable so i just wanted to check.

yes, i think we are supposed to read billy as racist. that was my read on him when i first watched s2, with no exposure to fandom. i much prefer the fanon billy to what i see on screen.

i think the fundamental problem with billy (as relates to fandom) is this: it seems to me like the duffers were just like ‘wouldnt it be fun if we just put all the 80s bully cliches into one guy?’ so in s2, hes a) a straight-up racist AND b) intensely self-hating homoerotic AND c) he’s lashing out because his home life is abusive. and i think the problem is exacerbated because even though those first two points are fairly obvious imo, they are entirely subtextual.

this leads to a situation where people who deeply related to or empathized with points b & c (and maybe missed a) get online and express that and get called horrible racists. some of them, in turn, erase that part of billy’s canon because it’s uncomfortable and doesn’t fit into the character in their hearts, which is, ironically, racist.

however, i think it’s worth taking into account that this is a show that essentially soft-reboots every character every season. because of the unstable nature of billy’s characterization in the canon, i think it’s perfectly legitimate for a fan to take what resonates and leave what doesn’t. i’ve seen some beautiful interpretations of billy in fanon. i really root for that guy. i don’t really see him on my screen, but i like seeing what people do with him on my dash.

i appreciate that you came to me with the benefit of the doubt. i hope this answer is satisfactory. billy is not My Guy, but i have billy mutuals, and i’ll continue to post billy stuff whenever i like the stuff. if it makes you feel better, you can rest assured that i understand the guy in the show is racist, and the guy i’m reblogging is a more of a hive mind fantasy of a different guy in the same skin. my favourite piece of billy fanart is him on the beach with max, sun tanning comfortably in a speedo. i like that guy. he does not exist in canon.

also, for any of my followers reading this, i’m not really anti-anyone. i think anyone can take any character and play with them like a barbie inside their minds. i don’t see the harm. if that makes you uncomfortable, feel free to unfollow now. 

#please read all of this in a kind voice lmao #billy hargrove #ask #anonymous #mp

[egg-emperor]

it's ridiculous how there are a lot of people that complain about game Eggman being funny because they think it makes him a complete joke but then on the other hand, there are also a lot of people that accept and defend the comedy but seem to hate the idea of him being truly evil and want him to be just a simple silly guy and innocent softie. both involve downplaying the evilness that he actually does still have, so I don't think either argument is better than the other here.

I don't agree with either side yet people always mistake me as being one or the other when the truth is that I just want both funny and evil. you know, like he actually is in game canon! and I don't like portrayals that don't do that because they miss the point of Eggman's character. he's funny but he's also truly evil and capable of being a serious threat. that's a part of what makes him so great and interesting as a villain.

being genuinely evil AND silly are in fact both possible at once but it seems so many people, Eggman fans and non fans alike, don't get this despite the way they're literally two of the defining traits of his character that's always been obvious in the games. if Eggman isn't humorous and evil, evil and humorous, it's just not Eggman. that balance is so important but it seems that many only want one side and then dislike the other.

it's like the only way all these people could be pleased at once would be if Eggman just ceased to exist because if you combine these perceptions of his character, people just aren't happy with either two of his core traits and can't accept both at once. a lot of those that don't like game Eggman's comedy say it's because it makes him look like a total joke instead of an evil threat (which isn't true, they're just not paying attention), and then a bunch of the people that do like the comedy don't recognize or at least try to deny his true evil because they can't accept it.

both are downplaying his evil and that's what bugs me. saying I wish people would recognize his evil isn't me saying I think he shouldn't be funny, in fact it's literally the opposite. I recognize and enjoy both the humor and evilness of Eggman and defend both aspects and they can't comprehend it. but I like it when he's funny and he should be but he's also still an evil nasty bastard man and dangerous threat, not a total joke or an uwu soft boy like people so often perceive him as because they only focus on his humor and not his evil.

it's really not difficult to understand but I still get assumptions and accusations of me either wanting Eggman to be a total clown or like any old stereotypical "I'm so evil" bad guy when neither of them are correct. :P he's both evil and hilarious and that's what makes him charming and entertaining. 💜 I adore him for it and I just wish more people would recognize, support, and embrace both sides instead of only one or the other. there's so much more fun in the balance and I'm so glad the games have that when fanon doesn't.

#dr eggman #eggman #dr robotnik #dr. eggman #my post #opinion #rant

[helbertinelli]

I don't mean to sound like I'm calling someone out because I'm not, but whenever I hear people defending Trophy Husband Anakin, Human Disaster Anakin, Incompetent Anakin, or Pet Anakin, they say it's just a joke.

On its own, it is a very valid reason, but that begs the question: why is it always Anakin?

Why do we never get jokes about Human Disaster Padmé or Incompetent Padmé (or jokes like thst about other characters)? They say that it's because Padmé hasn't done "human-disastery" things, but she has. Padmé is seen by many as strong-willed and courageous for going straight to helping Obi-Wan on Geonosis, but if Anakin did the same thing, he'd be called reckless. Through this, Padmé is turned into a Flawless Queen for doing the same things that turn Anakin into a Human Disaster.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not as mad as you think. This is just an observation of mine.

Maybe I should make a post about it sometime, hehe

I'm as mad as you think, so thank you for sending the ask.

I can't understand how they'd defend Pet Anakin, even as a joke. I mean Anakin started out as a child slave and then you go from that to making him a pet? Yikes.

Human Disaster and Incompetent Anakin have all been made worse by TCW, I bet. Because TCW made sure to portray him as being always kinda incompetent and basically a fuck up. No one respects him in TCW and Obi-Wan and Ahsoka constantly make fun of him, even when he's right. And there's also fanon!Anakin which basically convinced a good part of the fandom that Anakin is stupid and he doesn't even know the colors or how to read, when, you know, in canon Anakin is one of the most intelligent people in the galaxy.

Now, trophy husband Anakin, this gives me vibes of anti-Anidala and somehow Anidala people latched on to it. But its implications are basically that Padme doesn't love Anakin for anything else other than the fact that she can brag about his looks and she can fuck him. If people understood Anidala and understood that Padme loves Anakin (for way more than his body), they'd know that trophy husband Anakin is a pretty disgusting concept as it relates to their relationship. It also means that Padme is superior to Anakin in the relationship, which is not true and has never been true. And it turns Anakin into an object, which again, just like the Pet Anakin, it's really disturbing when you think about it. You're turning the guy who got out of slavery into an object again. Yikes!

I know some Padme fans get mad if someone even says the words Padme Skywalker or if they say Padme wanted to be Anakin's wife, so this whole trophy husband Anakin thing reminds me a lot of those people. It implies that Padme would have never wanted to be Anakin's wife because she loved him, but she would be his wife if it meant she had a toy basically that she can show off. So he's not her husband because she wants him to act like a husband, he's her husband because she wants to tie himself to her and to show ownership over him. It's extremely fucked up. I can't understand how people (especially those who like Anidala and Trophy Anakin) can excuse this or find this appealing for the relationship of Anakin and Padme.

One reason behind all those "tropes" would be that I've noticed that in many fandoms (and some canons... mainly in comics), it's cool to infantilize men and to make them act extremely submissive and harmless (they're incompetent, they're stupid, they're lost without another person to control their every decision and hold their hand at every step). I personally find it extremely disturbing. Was there no middle ground between men not respecting women and treating them as objects AND men acting like door mats and being treated like objects?

You are right about Padme being just as reckless as Anakin. She also jumps head-first into things and she doesn't even have the powers of the Chosen One or Force sensitivity. At least Anakin has something to back up his recklessness. So in a way, Padme is way more of a disaster than he is. But if you start saying Padme is a human disaster or a trophy wife (hell you can barely say she's a wife at all without some Padme fans going like "Anakin mind tricked her, she was only his wife to spy on him, GL was sexist for making Padme fall in love with Anakin"), or a pet people will get mad because they'll recognize how sexist and dehumanizing and disgusting it is to call someone those things now that they are applied to a woman. But if they're applied to men it's fun apparently.

One of the reasons I like Anidala is because they were extremely equal in so many aspects. Padme was a queen and Anakin was a slave from Tatooine, but she never treated him like he was any less than her. Despite their differences in power (Anakin being the most powerful Jedi and Padme being just a normal human), they were both extremely competent at what they did and they both respected each other's actions. And as a couple, they were both completely in love with the other and happy to be married, not because it meant ownership over the other, but because it brought them even closer together. The ROTS novelization puts it very nicely when it basically says that Anakin and Padme were one in the Force and her heartbeat was Anakin's heartbeat too, and they were so close and so in love that even when they were apart they were still like one entity. It's just so beautiful and it's really sad when people ruin their characters and their relationships with things like incompetent trophy Anakin or Chadme (which is the TCW and fanon version of Padme who hates Anakin and only cares about her job and acts like a macho man who just goes around punching everything).

Also, you should make a post about it. The more the merrier. Tag me in it, I’ll reblog it asap.

#anidala #padme amidala #anakin skywalker #anonymous #ask #meta #to be fair i've seen these things said about anakin as it relates to other ships but i don't wanna discuss those #it's even worse in other ships #but i was talking about anidala here because that's the one i'm concerned about #and like seriously anidala fans wtf?

[havenothingtodowithme]

Vic my beloved my moon my stars my grilled cheese, may I request a healthy heaping of your thoughts about DOUMA or KOKUSHIBO? for that character ask meme >:) <3

You could ask my hand in marriage and i would say yes my beloved, so here are my thoughts on Douma 💕

favorite thing about them: he's insane??????? No but really I find him fascinating, his backstory has SO MUCH potential it drives me insane. I love the religious aspects of his character, both thematically and aesthetically. I also ADORE that he's a fun "villain" and that he keeps being fun until the very end?? Like, with Akaza and Koku, things got very serious at the end, they reflected on what they have done and felt complex feelings about it. But Douma???? He did not gave a single shit he was dying and did not regret a thing he did. I just love me some fun bad guy who learns nothing

least favorite thing about them: not a big fan of him having ice powers, i think it's kinda lame

favorite line: every time he goes "eh?" and "huh?" i feel that 😔

brOTP: I think him, daki and gyutaro would have such a good dynamic, i need some lotus lineage shenanigans

OTP: listen, roger's rum au made me a douma x koku shipper, they work really well together, it's a very interesting dynamic

nOTP: him and kotoha or shinobu is just a no no for me. Nothing wrong with any of this ships, it's just not my cup of tea

random headcanon: i think he was a pick eater when he was a human, a "the onion is chopped too big" kinda dude. He also hated tea i think

unpopular opinion: it's more related to the fanon interpretation, but I don't think he would be into sex at all. I know we like to portray him as this debauchery king, but I really think sex would bore him to death

song i associate with them: both colorblind and birthright by mythospheric, mood ring by lorde, deep jungle walk by astrix

favorite picture of them:

He looks positively insane 😖👌

He looks so young and dumb 💞💖💓💕

Send me a character!

#thank you for the ask tai 💓💞💖💕 #miss having u around more often but i know life is complicated atm #ask game #yeehawshira #mutuals!!!!!! #vic talks

[ouyangzizhensdad]

Wei Wuxian in the novel and in CQL are two different characters.It has lot to do with how their character arcs are written and the change in narrative in the drama where he is more of a victim but It also seems to me that they have different personalities as well .In the novel he has the vibe of a savvy,intelligent, arrogant and a fun trickster personality going on but I did not get the same feeling from the drama at all. I can't list out all the instances where they differ BUT (1/2)

(2 /2) In general he seems to be more of a goofball who occasionally has good deductive skills. (Don't get me started on the portrayal of Yilling Patriarch!!). Your thoughts on this and I hope you expand on the differences in personality if you feel like there are any.

Hi anon, 

It’s a topic I’ve broached on a number of occasions, although I cannot understate how much the characterisation of WWX is different in CQL than it is in MDZS. It’s something you can even hear in Lu-laoshi’s voice acting, which is very different in CQL imo than how he portrays WWX in the audiodrama. 

Here are some differences that I attribute either to CQL or to CQL fanon which make me grit my teeth, but it is certainly not exhaustive!

the idea that everyone knew that WWX and LWJ were close in his first life, making “MXY” hanging around LWJ a clear sign that it is WWX. Now this sits half at CQL canon and CQL fanon, because the changes CQL brought by changing the timeline and putting more emphasis on their relationship during WWX’s first life definitely contributed to it, but at the same time CQL retains scenes and moments from the novel that only makes sense if people thought that LWJ disapproved of WWX so it is at the same time fanon? In any case, I hate it 🙃

I agree that, imo again, CQL does not manage to portray WWX as this very intelligent and resourceful guy who’s great at deductive thinking, and more as a goofball who just so happens to be kind of a smart cookie underneath it all. It is also not helped by the fact that the novel spends a lot of time in the Mo Mansion arc underlining these aspects of WWX’s characterisation at the beginning of the novel, whereas CQL do away with most if not all of these moments in its first episodes. It is also not as clear in the acting, again imo, the shift between WWX performing the lunatic and WWX the strategist (something that the donghua manages to show well, in contrast!). CQL!WWX literally gets told by a passerby information about MXY that MDZS!WWX figures out by investigating and putting together the information he has access to. CQL!WWX spends more time in the first episode mooning over LWJ (something absent in the novel in the Mo Mansion arc) than actually showing himself to be an extremely resourceful and slightly scary dude. That will please some people, but it does make for a characterisation of WWX that focuses mostly on defining on someone sentimental over someone else, instead of other intrinsic qualities that would be important later on in the novel.

Partly due to censorship, CQL makes WWX into a victim and seems to lay on thick this idea that WWX is broken by the events that take place, which does not really vibe imo with what the novel shows of WWX, and I am also not a big fan🙃

I wrote as well some of my thoughts on this post

#anon ask #wwx #mdzs #cql vs mdzs

[immaturityofthomasastruc]

(Accidental 150 Follower Special) IOTA's Top 10 Worst Episodes of Miraculous Ladybug (Part 1)

If you saw one of my earlier posts, an anon asked what my favorite and least favorite episodes of Miraculous Ladybug were. So, I decided to make a little list explaining the best and worst this show has to offer.

A few quick ground rules here. I'm not going to list any episodes I had previously talked about in some of my other posts. This includes “Kung Food”, “Animaestro”, “Syren”, “Reflekdoll”, “Chameleon”, and most of the episodes relating to Chloe's “damnation arc” that Astruc planned since he first created the character (“Despair Bear”, “Queen Wasp”, “Malediktator” and “Battle of the Miraculous”). Also, I'm not counting the specials, mainly because aren't listed as episodes, and because I don't want to talk about them.

Other than that, anything goes, so let's get things started with the worst list.

These are the Top 10 Worst Episodes of Miraculous Ladybug (in my personal opinion because your opinion is also valid)

#10: Stormy Weather 2

“Stormy Weather” was the very first episode of the show, and it really made a good impression on new viewers. So naturally, when it was announced that Stormy Weather would return, fans were excited. Then when the episode aired, Hawkmoth gave her even more powers, including the power to create a volcano big enough to potentially knock the planet out of orbit when it erupts. So Ladybug and Cat Noir have no choice but to stop the villain once again.

What does this plot lead to?

Yep, this episode is nothing more than a clip show. I understand that clip shows and bottle episodes are a necessary evil, but why would you set up something this awesome with a fan-favorite Akuma like Stormy Weather, and then not even bother to show it?

This episode is yet another attempt at showing that the show totally has character development. The whole reason Aurore is Akumatized into Stormy Weather again is because Chloe says that people can't change because Astruc (who was one of the four people writing this episode) is determined to make you hate this teenage girl more than the main villain of the show.

So of course, everyone spends most of the episode talking about how much they've changed, which is represented through clips of past episodes that do a horrible job at actually conveying any development.

According to Marinette, Adrien has “become a friend she can talk to about anything, except when it comes to her feelings for him”. Ah yes, you can tell they're friends by the fact that they barely hang out together, much less share a conversation because the writers are going to drag out the whole “Marinette stammering in front of Adrien” until they get tired of it. So basically, never.

All Alya and Nino talk about is how Ladybug helped them become a couple, and become superheroes, even though neither of those are actually related to character development. Though that is a fitting metaphor for the way both of their personalities have basically devolved to “the couple”.

Chloe talks about how nicer she's gotten, while footage of her doing awful things is played. I wonder who wrote that part in...

Even Ladybug and Cat Noir talk about how much they've grown and how stronger they've gotten, as opposed to focusing on STOPPING ANOTHER ICE AGE FROM HAPPENING. How can Hawkmoth even think this will get him the Miraculous? Yeah, sure I guess he can get them from the frozen corpses of our heroes, but what then? He still doomed humanity, and I don't think he can reverse the damage like Ladybug.

Towards the end, the clip show becomes slightly interesting, as Adrien mentions an unsigned card he got for Valentine's Day in “Dark Cupid”, and how similar the handwriting looks to Marinette's.

Does this lead to Adrien figuring out Marinette has feelings for him? Is the sky bright red? Both of these questions have the same answer.

Yeah, out of nowhere, Adrien just mentions Luka, who wasn't mentioned at all in this episode, and immediately thinks Marinette is in love with him. And that's how the episode ends.

I put this at the bottom of the list because I don't think it's completely fair to judge clip shows, but even some clip shows at least try to put in some effort and justify the clips, like what The Legend of Korra and some seasons of Power Rangers did. And the fact that the whole point of the episode is a poor excuse to claim that there's character development in the show only makes it even more infuriating.

Oh my God, this is only Number 10...

#9: Oblivio

While I already talked about “Cat Blanc”, this episode shares a similar theme as that episode: Giving viewers what they've wanted for three seasons, Marinette and Adrien finally learning each other's identity and starting a romantic relationship... only for the reset button to be once again slammed, making the entire episode pointless.

The only difference is that unlike in “Cat Blanc”, where there was an actual love confession that made sense, here, Marinette and Adrien find out the other's identity when they get their memories wiped by the Akuma of the week, Oblivio.

From then on, it's just fanservice. Instead of actually developing the relationship between Marinette and Adrien, the writers just decide to cram an entire episode worth of Adrienette content into a single episode just to tide fans over. Marinette and Adrien seriously fall in love despite only knowing each other for like, an hour at most. And the fact that the writers undo all the romantic progress of the episode makes it come across as pointless.

But the ending is what really cements this episode's spot on the list. As soon as Oblivio is defeated, Alya takes a picture of Ladybug and Cat Noir kissing without their consent and then rubs it in Ladybug's face.

Even though Ladybug doesn't know the circumstances (she has no memory of the events of the episode), this was still an invasion of her privacy, and she looks horrified by the picture that Alya is obviously going to post on her blog.

And of course, Cat Noir is more than happy to see it, ignoring how Ladybug feels and claims that they'd make a great couple. Because everyone knows good couples are formed by someone gaslighting the other into going out with them.

But wait, it gets better! In the next scene, we learn that Alya and Nino were akumatized into Oblivio... because they were caught in an embarrassing situation by their peers.

Alya: Remember when we visited Montparnasse Tower? Well, we went and hid to play Super Penguino, but Ms. Bustier caught us, and...

Nino: And you guys made fun of us for playing that game, saying it wasn't our age and all.

Alya: We were totally embarrassed at getting caught.

This was my thought process when I first heard Alya and Nino's explanation.

How can Alya claim to take a compromising picture of Ladybug, ignore how she feels, and not realize the similarity from when she and Nino were akumatized? This is what completely killed Alya for me in canon. This was the point where I couldn't care less if Marinette was friends with her or not. Sure, there are still fanfics, but those actually portray her with some kind of conscious. So to summarize, Fanon Alya is awesome, but I hope Canon Alya's 4G plan runs out.

This episode is just forgettable, but the ending made things worse. Apart from, I guess the action scenes and some funny jokes, this episode has no redeeming qualities. Like, literally the best thing to come from this episode was @miraculouscontent​‘s LadyBugOut AU, as it actually addressed the hypocrisy of Alya's character, among other problematic aspects of the show.

#8: Oni-Chan

Just a heads up, most of the episodes on this list are from Season 3. Just want to give you an idea of what to expect.

This episode is about Lila tricking Adrien into helping with her homework, when she is only doing it to get closer to Adrien. Marinette tries to spy on the two and stop Lila from hurting Adrien... even though she knows Adrien is aware that Lila is a liar, and is visibly uncomfortable around her.

And because the episode spends so much time on Marinette following Adrien and Lila, the buildup to Kagami getting akumatized is incredibly rushed. Seriously, she gets a single line of dialogue before she gets akumatized, and the motive is ridiculous too. Lila sends a picture of her forcing a kiss on Adrien, and Kagami immediately bursts into tears at the sight of it.

But wait, it gets better! When Kagami is akumatized into Oni-Chan (the writers know that's a term used for males in Japan, right?), she turns into a psycho hellbent on killing Lila because “Adrien doesn't deserve her”. Most of her dialogue is her saying how much she loves Adrien, making her come across as, for lack of a better word, a yandere.

This episode just destroys Kagami's character, making her as unlikable as Katie Killjoy in the process. If it wasn't for “Ikari Gozen” actually treating her like a human being (obviously Astruc's planned character development from the beginning), I'd completely hate her.

It also shows how much of an evil genius Lila is, as she has the brilliant idea to convince Oni-Chan to kill the only person capable of saving her from the Akuma's wrath. And this somehow gives Hawkmoth the idea to forge an alliance with Lila. It's also another reason why I believe in Darwinism.

This episode is low on the list because it does have a few redeeming qualities, like Lila facing consequences for lying, however brief they may be, and it has a great character moment with Adrien realizing on his own how terrible Lila really is, a far cry from what he was like in “Chameleon”.

Other than that, it's pretty bad, and still deserves a spot on this list.

#7: Antibug

HA! I said MOST of the episodes involving Chloe's “Damnation Arc” wouldn't be on this list, but not ALL OF THEM, so this one counts! Take that, convoluted rules I made up for some reason!

What was I talking about again? Oh right, “Antibug”. Oh crap, “Antibug”...

This is one of of several episodes in Miraculous Ladybug that really should have been a two-parter. It tries to be daring and includes two Akumas in one episode, but both of them are poorly executed.

An invisibly entity starts harassing Chloe, so Ladybug and Cat Noir start an investigation. It turns out to be Chloe's lackey Sabrina, who was akumatized after a falling out between the two. Well, I say “falling out” lightly, because what actually happened was that Chloe and Sabrina were cosplaying as Ladybug and Cat Noir, Chloe pretended to be the real deal while crashing an interview with Jagged Stone before Sabrina accidentally blew her cover, causing Chloe to be humiliated on TV and end her “friendship” with Sabrina.

Ladybug learns this from Chloe's butler, while Chloe never mentions the incident. So when Ladybug and Cat Noir engage the Akuma, Ladybug ignores Chloe's advice on where the corrupted object, naturally not trusting her judgment. And this is portrayed as a bad thing.

This episode is the start of a long-running trend in Miraculous Ladybug: Marinette needing to learn a lesson, while Adrien/Cat Noir is the one to help teach that lesson.

Chloe did nothing to help, only made things worse, and lied about why Sabrina got akumatized. It's kind of obvious why Ladybug wouldn't trust her word. The whole point of The Boy Who Cried Wolf wasn't to trust the liar after all.

But if that was all the episode did, it wouldn't be on the list, because now, the narrative wants to make the audience feel bad for Chloe before she gets akumatized into Antibug... who is just a lazy palette swap because new character models are expensive.

This part of the episode isn't nearly as bad as the first half, but like “Oni-Chan”, Chloe's akumatization is incredibly rushed, and we don't really get a chance to sympathize with her before she goes full Antibug.

Even Antibug herself isn't that interesting of a villain. The whole idea of an evil doppelganger is that they're a perfect match for the hero, but we only see Ladybug and Antibug fight for a few seconds, while Cat Noir does most of the fighting with her while Marinette's Kwami recharges. I like that Ladybug and Cat Noir show their teamwork to defeat Antibug, but I feel it would have been more interesting to see Ladybug and Antibug duke it out before Cat Noir helps turn the tide.

Again, this episode really needed to be a two-parter to better expand on the story presented here, because it had a really interesting premise. I'd personally read the version of “Antibug” in @justanotherpersonsuniverse​‘s “The Adventures of Panthera Noire” (an AU fanfic where shy girl Juleka gets the Cat Miraculous instead of Adrien). Not only does it have two separate chapters for Vanisher and Antibug, it also does a good job of setting Chloe on an actual redemption arc, unlike Astruc's “damnation arc”.

#6: The Puppeteer 2

As much as I've ragged on Adrien/Cat Noir in some of my other posts (and will continue to do so in this list), that doesn't mean I think Marinette has problems too, and this episode is a prime example.

Marinette and Adrien go to a wax statue museum with their friends (and Manon), but because of a poor choice of words by Nino, Adrien thinks that Marinette hates him. So he does something that everyone loves, practical jokes.

Adrien seriously thinks that pranking Marinette will improve her opinion of him. Even the prank is ridiculous, pretending to be a wax statue to make her laugh. And it leads to... Oh God... This is easily the contender for one of the worst moments in the entire show. Marinette goes up to the statue and... gets close to it. Yes, we, the audience know that this isn't a statue, but putting that aside, just look at what Marinette does to the “statue” (AUTHOR’S NOTE: I made a gif from the episode, but it wouldn’t go through, so I recommend you check out the episode and watch the statue scene for yourself if you don’t value your sanity). Even Adrien, as dense as he can be, is a little unsettled by what Marinette does.

If the scene was about Marinette talking about her feelings for Adrien, I'd be more lenient on it, but this? This is just uncomfortable to watch.

Even the dialogue makes Marinette sound incredibly creepy.

Marinette: Wow... it looks so... real. The wax is nearly as hot as skin. It even smells exactly like him...! Oh, beautiful statue of Adrien, your wax is so soft! Your yak hair is silky. Your eyes are so green. Oh, shall I be a statue, too! Everything would be so much easier. Why haven't we been molded together in the plaster of destiny? Marble to marble, wax lips against wax lips, entwined for eternity...

I think Gilbert Gottfried said it best.

This scene alone put this episode on the list, and the Akuma doesn't make it better. I really liked “The Puppeteer”, and I thought her ability to control past Akuma victims was incredibly fun to watch. And when she returns to take control of the wax statues of past Akumas they... don't use their powers (with the exception), and serve as cannon fodder for Ladybug and Cat Noir to plow through, making the return of the villain very underwhelming.

Even the end where Adrien tells Marinette that he is in love with someone and only sees her as a friend. This should devastate Marinette, but in the next scene, thanks to some fortune cookie nonsense from Tikki, she's still unsure about her relationship with Adrien, and that's how the episode ends. Seriously. Because just need to keep the status quo consistent, right? It's not like Marinette doubting her crush on Adrien and worrying that she's just wasted her time would have been interesting to see, right? Play that happy ending theme already!

Of all the episodes on this list, this is the one I was dreading talking about the most because of some of the moments here. And yet, there are still episodes that are worse than this one...

Here’s Part 2

#immaturity of thomas astruc #thomas astruc #thomas astruc salt #miraculous ladybug #miraculous ladybug salt #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #adrien agreste #cat noir #alya cesaire #nino lahiffe #chloe bourgeois #aurore beauréal #kagami tsuguri #sabrina raincomprix #lila rossi #gabriel agreste #hawkmoth #hawk moth #nathalie sancoeur #mayura

[angstyfandomhappyending]

Loki and Tony have always been my favourite characters in Marvel on screen. Wanda has become a pretty close third recently after her show.

I've always loved reading fics that delved deeper in to the psyche of these characters, especially Loki. There are some really good think pieces and character studies on Loki that either blended the cinematic elements of his character or focused more on the myths and the comics, and others made use of both aspects. (Most of it I read on 'thorki' fics, don't judge me... There are some damn fine fics out there under that fandom, and some pretty good ones under ironfrost though I've never been into that as much as I was into Loki being fabulous and.... With thor also, sometimes.)

But all those things aside, Marvel has a complicated history depicting good characterization on screen that isn't riddled with inconsistency. Take Steve or Bucky's arc for example. (Natasha would also be included if they hadn't done her this dirty, by giving her the story she deserved only after she died. Let's not even mention Bruce because what are they even doing with him. And Hawkeye... That's a mess.) I think Tony and Thor are the only major characters who've actually had proper arcs and growth {something that Ragnarok would ignore many times when it came to Thor, not always but at annoyingly poignant times, and yes, I do like and support Thor being a mess in infinity war}

So I was pleasantly surprised when Wanda and Vision became proper characters with story and character arcs in their show. All the mad theorisation and the shenanigan with mephisto was all cute for me, I enjoyed what they did in the show and would have also enjoyed if what the fan theories that were floating around at that time could also have been incorporated into it, though I wish they had done something more with Maria and fleshed her out a bit, because you can give one episode to a new character and still make them memorable: classicloki!!!!!!

So when the Loki series came around... I was verrrry excited. Because if the Thor movies had done something right, that was to give Loki a genuine arc, of him being not only a villain to someone that was more of an antagonist. Especially in the dark world and subsequently in infinity war. We have seen Loki go through so much pain and betrayal and self sabotage. After that scene in endgame, I was genuinely excited to see what they were going to do from then, how they were going to address Loki's plethora of traumas just as they did with Wanda but I hoped it would be more mischievous and fun!

What we did get was an interesting plot development that introduced Kang and his many variants, gave us Mobius whom I love and adore, Classic Loki and croc! Loki and allowed loki to be vulnerable even if those moments felt more often than not blatant and cheap.

Aside from these few points, there wasn't anything more to be had from the show. Sure, I did enjoy watching it and was kinda onboard with Sylvie and Loki, and didn't even have any problem with the ending, though it was not good from character motivation and arc point of view. I had no problem with how they showed Sylvie. She's Loki, but not really. She's her own person, with a very different variation of lived experience. And her insistence on being someone completely different than Loki was an interesting feature!

The first three episodes had a lot of potential for me. I thought they were going to show Loki having mischievous adventures with Mobius and the gang while discovering the truths about TVA. I thought each episode would somehow relate to Loki's past and all his unresolved emotions that would somehow tie back into the episode itself... Like a theme for every episode that linked back to a general theme of Loki being finally at peace in himself like the Mandalorian did with its themes and Wanda Vision. I thought we're going to see more playful side to Loki and he'll be allowed to finally be a whole proper character with many motivations not just drawn from pain and bitterness.

But sadly, this was the case of the Team as Family trope. That element was sorely missing in the actual movies. Something that was kept alive in the fanon ans fandom space. That's why it was so odd to know so much about the team dynamics and all the angst and hurt and comfort that could come with it but then being left unsatisfied when nothing of that sort was actually shown on screen. The same happened with Loki series in my opinion. The promotions for this show did misrepresent how big the fluidity of his character was going to be, but other than that I really think I and many more of us were trying to see the Loki we know and love in the fandom and partially visible in those three movies into the series, which was a whole different thing in itself.

That's why it hurt so bad when the series almost forgot about it's main character in lieu of tying other storylines with the multiverse storyline. That's why we felt betrayed when Loki wasn't allowed to exist in a way that spoke more of the ease and flow with which he carries himself in the myths and comics and in our fics. When he wasn't allowed more scenes like the Pompeii one because that's how Loki is. He's funny, and spontaneous and scheming while beng charming and having the best time. I don't hate the show, neither do I love it as much as I love the first and second Thor movies and all the fics about Loki because I know Loki has never been just few key words and their occasional subversions on screen. He's nebulous and full of mischief!

So I'm just waiting for more Loki and Mobius fics on Ao3 where we get the proper adventures that these two deserve either platonically or otherwise.... Because...... HAVE YOU SEEN LOKI'S FACE WHEN HE REALISED THAT MOBIUS DIDN'T RECOGNISE HIM I'M-

#LOKI #loki series #loki #fanon #canon #loki deserves happiness #loki deserved better #but it's alright #MCU has always been hit or miss with these characters #thank loki that we have Ao3 and tumblr

[prompts-adrien-sugar]

OK I'm gonna talk about a subject that's kinda touchy but really sincerely needs to be said.

Some people in this fandom i genuinely admire and like, but here's the thing. Some of y'all in this fandom can be a bit insensitive to allot of issues (racism, sexism, abuse, etc) and some still try real hard to act like you don't and it's honestly really f*cking trifling/concerning, cause like y'all act like y'all don't do that, and it really aggravates me.

First onto the problem with racism this fandom has. Y'all have no qualms going on and on about the evident whitewashing the show does to it's characters of colour at times like what they did to rena's model, etc(trust me i feel the same way at times but saying that mari is white bc she doesn't wear chinese garb etc is really concerning and feels really weird when white fans try to say this bc not allot of ppl who come from different cultures outward go and dress in their ethnic garb at home in all places (and honestly, whenever iusuallysee art of this it's fine but at times it comesoff a bit fetishizy(especially whenever someonetries to draw mari in diferent clothes and all they do is a "certain" style. and it's concerning that y'all have the opposite argument about sabine (even though i also i have qualms about that too.) but then getting angry when poc try to tell y'all to stop drawing characters a certain way (whitewashing (how funny how y'all go on about this and then do it in art or other media by lightening skin colour or changing features) or darkening the skin on a villain alligned character instead of trying to learn from those criticisms is in and of itself, a whole hypocritical mess bc y'all try to make some valid crits of the show but it all goes down the drain when y'all turn around and do this witchhunting/whitewashing bs. Then there's the fact that y'all salters almost always make alya the villain and chloe a support in a huge amount of saltfics without even seeing what kinds of connotations could arise from that. Like do you not see the problem in twisting the main character's best friend who actually has a personality of her own into the villain when she's black and making the lighter skinned bully the hero. At all.

Next onto the sexism (funny thing is its funny how both sides play into this). First we have how the fandom treats Marinette and Adrien. When mishaps happen to Mari, the salty part of the fandom tends to jump up and say that either her classmates are always laughing at her and more complaints that don't make any sense because if y'all have actually watched some parts of the show even, any scene when marinette has a mishap happen to her in front of classmates you'd see they're not laughing at her, but with her. (and you'd think that the nyc special would show y'all that the wouldn't laugh at her accidents or problems if she's in genuine distress.) Then we have the minor villains Felix and Lila with how the fandom still holds onto this merit that canon felix is a good person underneath a cold persona (now this could've been truefor pv!felix or fanon felix and i don't hate him, it actually the opposite, i kinda want to see what other moties the character has in store for us.) what i don't like is how some parts of the fandom put him on a better merit than lila when we don't even know his full character just as yet while we've already gotten to know how shady of a person lila is.

now finally onto the abuse aspect. i saved this one for last bc this is a touchy subject for me at times, in any aspects i can name bc here's the thing, this fandom loves to either: make claims that a certain character (adrien) is not facing any sort of abuse bc he's a guy or that he shouldn't be taking it or he should stand up for it (or worse saying he deserves it and saying that gabriel/lila should continue with it?! looking at 4 or more certain salters who have been getting on my last f-ing nerve with that) and i'm just like please stop and think about it for a second. And i don't want to hear the "it's a tv show" angle which i've heard way too many damn times bc If you were in a situation like that and it starts to escalate, how would you feel if someone online was making fun of your plight online over an over like a damn broken record player hmm? Cause i relate to adrien on a few aspects of his life and seeing y'all repeat the same cold takes about how he could just leave, or how chat blanc can't happen bc gabriel isn't like that is frankly, all too worrying bc i have been in that place and so have many others and seeing y'all say that gabe/lila/nathalie are all morally better bc of certain struggles they face is another hypocritical thing that some of y'all salters need to address bc y'all would rather say these people behave better than an abused kid.

#ml fandom critical #ml fandom #ml fandom salt #ml salt #ml salt on salt #like honestly the hypocriticalness of this fandom aggravates me to no end. #especially since y'all salters never ever own up to y'all's mess and well here's the thing it makes you look like a herd of clowns #and y'all salters have turned something that could genuinely be used to bring valid critique to a show #into a wholeass gaslighting and apologism festival when you either can't find reasons to justify ships or other things #when criticism is NOT about the shit y'all think its about. #miraculous salt #miraculous fandom salt #like the sugar side of the fandom or should i say the sane side of the fandom actually know how to watch a show while still being critical #it's y'all that dont now how you just use the tags to rant on how the show isn't going your way. #and i'm gonna say this.i try to sometimes sweep the shit y'all salters do under the rug at times #bc at face value it seems like you all are actually making some valid critiques then i look at some of the other stuff y'all have done #and it goes down the drain #cause y'all literally send y'all little followers to angry mob anyone who dare speak against you. #like i've been in the fandom when the show fucking started and seeing it go from such a nice community to the cesspool it is now #is distressing. #and also if you're one of those artists who like to send angry mobs to ppl when they don't agree with you you're an idiot. plain and simple #like honestly the show isn't perfect but the way some salters go outta their way to bash it is sad #edit: i got an anon probably pertaining to this post saying that i was mean. that's the point #bc if I'm not assertive and putting my foot down on the problematic salt the fucking salters have put out ppl will ignore it #and continue to support these racist ab*se apologizing mfers.

[bronyinabottle]

In a recent post on I Dream of Twilight Sparkle I said that I noticed asks that were not in my inbox the last time I decided to read through my entire ask box. So I did the same for my mod blog. And while there were some also that I didn't see before. Most are questions I feel either I feel like I may have already sufficiently answered enough with my thoughts on an episode and/or it'd be weird at this point to answer something that's obviously years after the fact.

But there is two I found that I feel like I may want to respond to. The person who sent it was someone who used to discuss the show with me almost all the time, though obviously they must no longer be on Tumblr as all their blogs are deactivated. But I still want to answer since it is sort of relevant to recent stuff. Particularly in their 2nd ask.

By the way, I'm always open to questions on the show or even non-pony topics here on my modblog. I still do love talking about G4 ponies and I wouldn't mind some questions if any of you would like to know my opinion on anything. Now that the show has been over for nearly 2 years , I can have a perspective on many topics about Friendship is Magic that I wouldn't mind sharing. Maybe some things have changed here and there, though I think I still generally have a positive attitude towards most things for certain. I stuck with the show until the very end, and was satisfied with how it ended. And I still have interest in doing more in G4's world even as G5 approaches. (Though I'm sure perhaps once that movie has aired that may be the focus of any questions sent here)

((My answer and more after the break))

For the most part, I think I still generally agree with what I said in my initial thoughts about the Season 6 finale. It's a solid episode with some great interactions between Starlight, Trixie, Discord, and Thorax. Though the way the ending is executed is a bit of a headscratcher. Maybe somewhat less so since thinking about it now, like even if Chrysalis did keep some things loyal. What would stop them from eventually seeing what Thorax's changelings did shortly after.

But I suppose I wanted to answer this mostly about Starlight. Since while the Season 6 finale made HomerJ get over some remaining feelings about Starlight. I'll admit it took literally until writing Secrets of the Dragon's Tear (A year after the show was over) to realize the sort of potential that Starlight had. The baggage from the Season 5 finale always felt like a cloud above her for the entire rest of the show's run. And I consider Season 6's largest mistake is not trying harder to endear us to Starlight. That's what that season's entire job was, to try to make us feel a little better of how rather rushed Starlight's redemption was by giving us a more expanded look into Starlight's character. And unfortunately, I feel like it failed at that in my opinion. Thus I basically disagree (Though respect the opinion of) with those who would say the Season 6 finale was when Starlight finally won them over.

Don't get me wrong, I like how Starlight is portrayed in the episode. But it would of been stronger if say the season had explained more about Starlight's past. How did Starlight get her cutie mark, and given her opinion on Cutie Marks how did she feel at the time?

Instead, we mostly just got Starlight reuniting with Sunburst that didn't exactly give any more details to her rather vague reasons for turning to darkness from him moving away other then finding out Sunburst's personality and how his side of the story went. And from there we had Starlight befriend Trixie... in an episode I still don't really like to this day.

Ironically, the character in the Hearth's Warming episode that casts Starlight as the story's version of Scrooge (Snowfall Frost) is given more reason to sympathize with then Starlight herself.

Starlight then just about disappears up until the episode that introduces Thorax. Where she doesn't do much other then be among the crowd that Spike has to convince that Thorax is not evil.

The next time we see her is Every Little Thing She Does. Which is something of a controversial ep from what I hear, though ironically despite my skepticism of Starlight at the time. I actually sort of liked that episode since it was basically Starlight's own Lesson Zero. Though I get why Starlight deciding to hypnotize all the Mane 6 besides Twilight against their will would not be approved of. Though it does feel like at the very least Twilight and the rest give her enough of a piece of their mind at the end.

And that's how things stood before the Season 6 finale happened. Even though I do think Starlight has good moments in said finale, nothing earlier in the season really dispelled many of my feelings about the Season 5 finale's ending. So despite a good showing, I could hardly care for it. I wasn't convinced yet we were given a satisfactory answer about the many questions that Starlight's sudden redemption prompted.

Another part of my thoughts I feel still applies is when I mentioned that Starlight's a "Diet Sunset Shimmer" (Which considering what I did to link the two for SOTDT, is a bit funny in hindsight). It took just one movie (Rainbow Rocks) for the fanbase to turn a 180 on Sunset. While an entire season with Starlight as one of the good guys goes by and she remained just as divisive as before if not more so by the end of Season 6.

Come Season 7, and Starlight appears quite a bit more often though under the assumption that the Season 6 finale was enough to warm you up to her. There were many complaints during the first half of Season 7 that she was appearing more then she should (Even in an Equestria Girls special where she got to meet the character she was so often compared to). Though another thing about Starlight in Season 7 in hindsight is besides from her meeting a few more friends like Maud. Starlight isn't actually given much to actually work towards. They dropped the whole student aspect so it's not like she was doing friendship lessons under Twilight anymore (Though I suppose on the bright side for the detractors, it lessened worries about her becoming an Alicorn). Season 8 and 9 does somewhat fix that by having Starlight employed at the school, first as a counselor and ultimately ending with her as the school's Principal as Twilight herself got promoted to sole ruler. Which I'm still unsure about if fans of her character feel that was a proper ending for her. Though probably the best that could of been done in context of not much having been done with her over time.

Still, at least for me personally it felt there was alot missing about Starlight and as time went on it became obvious I wasn't going to get the satisfactory answers about her that I wanted. So as a result, I only had lukewarm reactions when a new Starlight episode was coming up. It also didn't help that there were two episodes that raised my hopes of at least one interesting aspect that would of been cool to see. The first being the episode "All Bottled Up" which I had hoped would mean it would be an episode that's somewhat genie related. And then there was Road to Friendship where Starlight and Trixie try to travel to Saddle Arabia (which is an important location in I Dream of Twilight Sparkle)... and yet never actually get there. So even on the few times that I was hoping to be excited about a Starlight episode, it dropped the ball. Partly my fault for getting so hyped about something that wasn't promised, but I would of loved to at least SEEN canon Saddle Arabia.

I'd never say that I hated Starlight back during the show's run. But she was a frustrating character for certain back then. I couldn't hate Starlight as much as some others did, but at the same time I couldn't like her as much as others. She was in likability limbo. For every fun and or good moment that included her, it's brought right back by either lingering problems that arised from the Season 5 finale or otherwise dropping the ball in some way.

In some ways, she's still a frustrating character. Though that's just how it'll always be with the canon Starlight. It's up entirely now to fanon to give their approach on Starlight that was never done in Canon. With SOTDT, I obviously did a bit of a "Fine, I'll do it myself" when it comes to making Starlight a more satisfactory character for me. Though I'm sure there are many interpretations that are vastly different from how I approached it that can satisfy others and probably be more popular and better written then mine. (My interpretation might be understandably controversial just for Starlight being put back on a path where she'll likely become an Alicorn eventually. Something Starlight detractors feared the most. Though I think I at least try to explain as best I could that makes sense with the story, her cutie mark moment being similar to Twilight's, and the identity of her mother. And I myself sort of feared Starlight becoming an Alicorn might happen, so for me to actually write it so that it might be inevitable. That's just how much of a 180 I've taken on Starlight because of writing SOTDT)

I think I mentioned this before, but I can pretty much say that in a way that I can actually say I like Starlight now. But sort of in a "FiM's biggest missed opportunity" sort of way that it becomes sort of sad to look at how canon Starlight was done. Rather then me simply shrugging her off back when I didn't care so much about her. I also understand it's a bit cheating to say I like Starlight now after doing my own sort of fanfic that had her in a major role since that might be me tooting my own horn a bit.

Though I will say as much as necessary that I am very aware alot of what happens in SOTDT would have been impossible to do in canon and I don't plan on pushing what I did to expand on Starlight's backstory as gospel. It only applies to what I'm doing on the blog, I will not be making a case that my interpretation is the only correct one. I'd actually welcome seeing some different interpretations on things such as who Starlight's mother is, what they feel her past was like outside of the Sunburst leaving incident, and/or especially how Starlight originally got her cutie mark. (I've even said my personal guess is different then how I did it in SOTDT, as my guess is she got it the first time she discovered the cutie mark removal spell). Cause if nothing else, I've realized Starlight is a very interesting character that I think would be fun to explore all the possibilities with. It certainly could be something for those still on the G4 train to talk with one another about.

#my little pony #my little pony friendship is magic #starlight glimmer #to where and back again #season 6 #g4 #mlp g4

[ohahsoka]

hey! you might have answered this before, so i'm sorry in advance if that's the case, but any snk ship opinions? like, hate, apathy? i'm just curious, thanks!

Hi, anon!

My favorite pairing is levihan, and tbh, that’s the only ship I truly care about in a romantic sense. They checkmark so many of my favorite tropes: complementary opposites, sunshine and grumpy, parents to an adoptive family, perfect understanding of each other. (There are more, but it’d take too long to list them all.)

Crackships are fun as hell. Mikasa’s love-hate thing with Annie is fantastic, as well as her extrovert/introvert dynamic with Sasha. Is Jeankasa a crackship? Probably. His love for her is so caring and respectful, and I appreciate it so much. Jean and Reiner serving as thematic parallels/foils to Eren makes these relationships so great for me.

I really like analyzing yumikuri’s connection and how important it is plot-wise. I wish they had more time.

While I absolutely love the characters individually, I only mildly care about aruani. I’m not even sure why, they have a wonderful (though short) buildup. Maybe because I’m more invested in other aspects of their arcs.

EMA’s story is written so well, and I love their thematic connections; every relationship in this triad has something special going for it.

Falgabi are kids and a parallel/foil to eremika, and I’m interested in them for the latter reason heh.

As for dislikes, as far as canon goes, I don’t have any. It’s fanon that can drive me crazy, so I’ve learned to avoid bad takes. Shipper goggles are a powerful thing, and fandoms love projecting their favorite tropes onto characters that absolutely don’t exhibit them.

I still have a hangover from the discourse around ackerbond (as some weird twilight-like imprinting occurrence). Its existence has been debunked in chapter 130, yet people still use it as ship fuel or a reason for character hate.

The biggest fanon headache right now is ere/hisu. Conceptually, as crackship, they’re okay. What some fans created in their heads regarding this ship’s canon prospects is another thing entirely. I believe the manga goes against their theories, both because genocide has always been narratively punished up to this point, and because Mikasa and Armin’s connection to Eren is still the main focus relationship-wise. Hopefully, cheap shipping drama is not AoT’s final plot twist.

My answer is a bit messy, but I think I covered most of my feelings on the topic. I generally try to avoid drama related to ships, but I also love analyzing canon, so inevitably I see some weird interpretations of scenes/relationships that are fairly self-explanatory.

#snk spoilers #aot spoilers #my thoughts #anonymous #my mail #anti erehisu #pieck and zeke would be hot together #i love how she still cares about him even though he betrayed the warriors