#catra redemption

[vyr2oso]

I love how I've literally been saying that crosshair and catra are like the same fucking character since 2021 and the show only continues to prove me right

#bad batch #crosshair #crosshair bad batch #the bad batch crosshair #funny #the bad batch #catra shera #catra redemption #catra

[taracandycorn]

Todays word was Death

#she ra fanart #she ra #spop #catradora #catra redemption

[aphantpoet]

Characters that had better redemption arcs than Zuko:

Disclaimer; while I do criticise the series I do actually like it overall. There are just some things that don’t sit right with me because of the time the show was made in. While I recognise how revolutionary Zuko’s redemption arc was that does not make it immune to criticism.

The first point we need to address is “what am I measuring “better” by?”. That goes into the issues with Zuko’s redemption arc to begin with. Zuko’s redemption has always felt a little shallow to me. He spends most of the series chasing and trying to capture/kill a 12 year old in the name of colonisation and then has a crisis of faith when he realises that the side he fought for no longer served him. He doesn’t address the toxic mindsets he was raised with, he merely changes sides.  how I am determining what characters did better is is they made a conscious change in behaviour and mindset. Lets’ get into it, i’ll try to limit myself to three paragraphs.

1. Li Ping/ The Serpent.-Detentionaire

For the uninitiated,  The Serpent. was an antagonist in the latter parts of Detentionaire. The series followed Lee Ping, the son of Korean immigrants as he tries to find the culprit who set him up for a schoolwide prank that got him a year of detention. through the series Ping battles rivals, brainwashing and shadow governments, uncovers family secrets and confronts old family demons.

The Serpent [who i will be calling Li to keep thing brief] was apart of said Shadow Government and Lees older brother. He was raised by the Council as a weapon and he encounters Lee and his friends on quite a few occasions.Li doesn’t have many interests that we know of, we know he’s a bit immature and that he loves his snake Priscilla. When he discovers that he was taken by Council not given up he turns on them, getting captured and giving Lee and his friends time to escape. Ther series was canceled so we never get to see where his story goes.

Li changes his actions because when he realises that his biological family did not abandon him he has no reason to fight them and with the understanding of the lies he was fed he’s done being manipulated.

2. Stanley Pines-Gravity falls

When twins Mabel and Dipper Pines are forced to stay with their Grunkle Stan in the mystery shack, they discover that there is  more to this sleepy town and in it’s off colour residents.

So spoiler, Grunkle Stanford Pines was laying about his identity. When Grunkle Stan was younger he had a twin brother, Stanford. Ford was the smart one while Stan was the strong one but they were close until an accident with Fords science project caused a rift between the brothers. they meet up years later as adults and Stan is a con man living paycheck to paycheck and Ford has fallen into the supernatural happenings of the town. A fight causes the portal Ford was building to activate and suck him up. Stanley goes on to assume his brother’s identity and try to find the other journals to rebuild the portal and save his brother. 

When we meet him he’s still up to his old tricks and he can be harsh sometimes, but he genuinely loves his niblings. In the end he sacrifices his memories to defeat the ultimate evil. He’s a shady guy by all means, but by the time he saves his brother he has more than redeemed himself.

3. Pacifica Northwest- Gravity Falls

In the beginning Pacifica is a bit of a one dimensional bully, she is as Dipper says ‘the worst”. As we see her more however he has a miniature redemption arc. We realise that her parents are controlling and abusive and she genuinely does not know better.  During the Northwests ball her house is being haunted by a vengeful ghost that pertifies everyone. Pacifica learns that her family is not that great and decides to break the cycle and let the undesirables in. This frees the ghost and saves everyone.

While Pacifica is a minor character her redemption is set up and gradual and shown in a way that does not obstruct the overall narrative. her redemption is earned through addressing the abuse she suffered and changing her behaviour, even she she cannot change the behaviour of others, she’s only a kid after all. 

4. Catra-SPOP

Spop follows child soldiers and childhood friends,  Catra and Adora and their  pains and adventures on both sides as they make their way back to each other.

Catra is a villian for most of the series. Because we benefit from her direct perspective her abuse under Shadow Weaver, Hordak and Horde Prime is well documented an ongoing and, in her mind, unescapable. Catra does show vulnerability despite this on multiple occasions and it’s usually unaddressed or punished, this creates a cycle of her pushing people away to keep herself safe.When she sets off the portal she doesn’t have any real idea of what will happen, she just knows there’s a chance she’ll also dies and that doesn’t sound too bad. She finally snaps out of it and saves Glimmer from Horde Prime, sacrificing herself to a fate worse than death in the process. Over the rest of season five hse gets closer to the Best friend squad and apologises even saving the world by letting love in.

Catra learns that it is by letting yourself be loved that you become worthy of it. While her actions with the Horde are not good, she knows that. Much like Pacifica, she just does not know a better life or rather feel she deserves one. Catra is only accepted when she proves she has changed beyond a doubt. the choices she makes throughout the series that show the glimmer [hehe]that she might be better underneath come from her. No one makes her give Adora the sword back, no one makes her toast Scorpia in the Crimson Wastes, no one makes her get Glimmer off the ship, no one but her.

5. Amity Blight

When Luz Noceda ends up on the Boiling Isles she meets a cast of characters, among them is Amity Blight. the youngest daughter of the Blight family, abomination prodigy and self important snob. We first meet her bullying Willow Park. When Lux aggress to help Willow cheat Amity calls her out on it, while a bit heavy handed in approach she’s not wrong. They meet again at the convention where she challenges Luz to a witches duel. cue Lilith cheating and the girls bonding a little.

Amity’s actions don’t go far from the realm of petty bullying but as season 1 goes on she starts to gain more depth. Controlling parents, self esteem issues and a surprising gift with kids. She and Luz start to for a mutual friendship and then Amity enters her tomato era. She stands up to her mother and apologises to Willow, they make peace and become friends again. 

Amity becomes a better person, which isn’t unrealistic, she’s a kid who unlearns toxic mindsets though finding someone able to see more than the top student. her better qualities come out and she leaves her old friends. It looks like Skara also abandons Boscha, so good for her to.

#atla #zuko critical #toh #toh amity #spop #catra #catra redemption #gravity falls #grunkle stan #pacifica northwest #detentionare #the serpent #li ping #multi fandom meta #atla meta #toh meta #detentionaire meta #spop meta #gravity falls meta #detentionaire

[chronicsyd]

I gotta add one more thing to the whole thing that I find Absolutely boggling is that NONE of yall had this attitude when it came to Sasha from Amphibia. and I KNOW that She-ra/Owl House/and Amphibia are three of the fandoms where I generally find the same people talking/most crossover/whatever you wanna call it cause Sasha Also didn’t have a long redemption arc (in fact MOST of it happened off screen) however I see Zero complaints when it comes to Sasha. Yes, Anne says she’s “done being friends with her” but then does a pretty quick 180 once she lands herself back in Amphibia and its Sasha who spends most of  ‘Commander Anne’ letting Anne call the shots and being overly cautious around her. 

(ykw? this seems like a Perfect time to call out The Owl House fandom for yalls treatment of Amity after ‘Reaching Out’ cause Amity had Every Right to be upset at Luz for constantly lying to her. cause this is just Constantly proving my point of yall sapphics Only want perfectly perfect relationships no matter what's happening and that's an issue) 

I’m not done talking about this and am gonna come back to it but some of yall are Seriously starting to piss me off. 

#shera #SheRa and the Princesses of Power #amphibia #catra #sasha #catra redemption #sasha redemption #redemption arcs #lumity #you guys treated amity poorly #and i wont stand for it #enemies to lovers #rivals to lovers #no im not done with this #anticatradora get out of here #im not for you like even in the slightest

[arceneades]

Catra's Redemption?

TL/DR: Catra is the product of brainwashing and abuse who heroically shakes that off and bravely gives her greatest betrayer a second chance.

In my barely-on-life-support fic "Catran", I'm going through SPOP episode by episode, in a more gritty universe than canon, and from the point of view of a non-binary Catra.

Yes, Adora is still queer in this fic. I'm not a monster.

Anyway, this has me spending a LOT of time in the head of the Catra in my head. And from in here...

Fuck everyone who says I needed redemption. Fuck them forever. Do you have any idea what it's been like for me? The torture? The abuse? Have you ever wondered why I scratched Octavia's fucking eye out? I mean, have you? Cause it ain't pretty, I'll fucking tell you that. Adora left me in that fucking hellhole. Yeah, she was all enlightened and shit but I was raised to believe that Princesses were all evil, and you know what? I didn't know any better, because I never had a chance to learn any better. I was raised from the age of fucking three to fight for the Horde, and you're going to hang a bunch of shit on me for that? Say that somehow, I was supposed to see past all of that and make good choices while I was being brainwashed and abused and abandoned? Fuck. You. I saved Adora. I saved your whole god damn rebellion when I put my ass on the line to give her that fucking sword back and saved her ass from being fucking mind-wiped and what did she say to me? That she was surprised. The one person I ever let myself care about and get close to and fucking love, and she left me and had the balls to be surprised that I would keep my promise to protect her? Yeah. That hurt. How was I supposed to know she really loved me? She sure as fuck didn't say it. She sure as fuck didn't show it. "One good thing"? Fuck. You. I didn't need redeeming. Adora needed redeeming.

#spop #catradora #she ra and the princesses of power #catra #spop adora #catra redemption #adora redemption

[waterfire1848]

[ Catra to Evil Lyn. ]

Catra: I’m sorry. The position of reformed villainess who tried to destroy reality has already been taken.

#incorrect quotes #source: shrek 2 #Catra #evil lyn #she ra #she ra 2018 #spop #he man #motu #motu revelation #catra redemption #evil lyn redemption

[idolomantises]

I always feel like the worst kind of character redemptions (other than redemptions where a character immediately redeems themselves after one conversation) are ones where the villain is betrayed and so they switch sides, and it's treated like they've become a better person.

#txt #it was one of my biggest pet peeves with how catra's redemption was handled (As well as everyone being her bff lol) #kid cosmic did this too but chuck was funny so i was fine with it #i think rise of the tmnt handled this concept the best. draxum was betrayed but it didn't mean he's a good guy now #he was a wanted criminal who only accepted help from mikey because he needed a place to hide #and then they slowly bonded and he gradually reforms himself #i love shit like that

[yourhighness6]

Unpopular opinion but I think in SPOP S2E3 Catra was genuinely trying to protect Entrapta from Hordak after almost being suffocated in the same episode by him

I think the main obstacle to Catra's perspective redemption arc at this point isn't her tendency towards violence or her constant anger, as those are classic character flaws before redemption arcs, but her manipulation tactics and her capacity to treat other people like shit. This is kind of an uncommon way of presenting these sorts of characters, who are often shown as being kind of "dumb" while having a repressed natural kindness. Catra certainly isn't "dumb", she's incredibly intelligent, an excellent strategist, and extremely careful with her words. In this scene I saw not the first glimpse but one of the first of a girl who genuinely cares about those close to her (besides Adora) and may be worthy of redemption. Catra clearly does have a heart, but I'm interested to see exactly how this plays out, as Noelle Stevenson took a huge risk by giving her these traits.

#shes the most interesting character to me so far #but entrapta bow and glimmer are my favorites #I pretty much like all of them except for Hordak and Shadow Weaver so far #Shadow Weaver can go die in a hole #but I was surprised by hordaks cruelty in this episode we don't see a lot of him directly harming ppl #I've heard he gets a redemption arc too so again excited to see how that pans out #catra #entrapta #spop #she ra #she ra and the princesses of power #catradora

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

a redemption arc is not a sacrifice.

a redemption arc is not some grand act of selflessness.

a redemption arc is not meaningless pain and suffering.

a redemption arc is simply facing the consequences of your actions, fixing your mistakes and doing better, regardless of whether you will be forgiven or accepted. that's it.

#saying this to all the idiots that are like “but catra suffered torture from horde prime!!” #or “catra has had enough trauma in her life do you want her to suffer more?” #no. we just want her to do better #we don't want to see her get hit by someone‚ we want her to be held accountable for her actions #spop critical #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #spop #she ra #anti spop #anti catra #anticatra #redemption arc #redemption arcs

[pepper-butler]

im gonna be honest. i love hero x villain ships, and i love angsty enemies to lovers. but i hate catradora

why?

because of that dumb fucking redemption. if it was just a funny lil "what if the hero and villain had a thing for each other" ship i would've loved it.

but trying to redeem an abuser, blame the victim and play the relationship off as healthy? fuck no, catra is to be held accountable for all of her actions and adora deserves better than her. catra is a horrible person and the show should treat her as such, instead of an "uwu gay disaster baby".

enemies to lovers shouldn't be a victim being emotionally scarred from an abuser, it should be enemies who are equal to each other. i would much rather ship catradora if catra hated everyone else just as much as she hates adora

if you ship catradora, fine. good for you, honestly. but don't hit me with the "its healthy" bs, or the "you don't know what enemies to lovers means". i do know what it means, i just don't like the abuser x victim sort

#catras redemption arc can suck my asscheeks #spop salt #spop critisism #spop critical #catra is an abuser #anti catra #anti catradora #catra salt #catra criticism #catradora salt #catradora criticism #adora deserves better

[darkcrowprincess]

Me ranting about Catra and Catradora:

Catradora is not a toxic ship. They do not get together till they both figure out their issues. If anything they are a toxic codependent friendship, where they have obvious feelings for each other. But again they do not get together till they both work on their issues. Which hello character development and redemption. Emphasize on the both of them, because Adora has deep issues too that she needs to work on. Catra's issues are rooted in trauma and abuse, its not ok or and exuse for her actions (she goes through learning that the hard way). But its trauma response to that. And dealing with that is not pretty, it's a work in progress, you fail and go back to square one a lot.

What she did went through is basically the same as what Zuko did in Avatar the last Airbender. It's not an excuse on either of them. But everyone seems to hate on Catra more 🙄😒. I wonder why *sarcasm*. The whole point of this rant? Is me just wishing people would stop hating on catra and catradora. The story telling in shera especially where Catra is involved is brilliant and great story telling to me. An amazing redemption and story arc for female character. But what do I know thats just my opinion. I'm not telling people to not dislike Catra or the catradora ship. People are entitled to their opinions. I just wish people would stop calling it toxic. Because it's not.

(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you)

#catra #catradora #spop catra #redemption arc #character development #me ranting #My thoughts #Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you #tw abuse #trauma #zuko #prince zuko #atla zuko

[vyr2oso]

LISTEN

I've fr been saying they're the same for forever

#crosshair #i found proof that i actually called that crosshair scene #i was like 'i really want (what happened with catra in s5) to happen to crosshair #bad batch #crosshair bad batch #funny #the bad batch crosshair #the bad batch #catra #catra redemption #crosshair redemption #this is all i've ever wanted

[taracandycorn]

#she ra fanart #she ra #spop #catra #catra redemption

[nightowl1556]

Zuko: ...What the fuck is that?

Varian: CATRA, PUT THAT THING BACK OUTSIDE!

Catra: *holding Cursed Cat Alastor* What's wrong with it?

#avatar the last airbender #tangled the series #she ra and the princesses of power #atla #tts #spop #atla zuko #tts varian #spop catra #zuko #varian #catra #hazbin hotel #cursed cat alastor #meme #r.a.3. #redemption arc trio #r.a.3. incorrect quotes #incorrect quotes #ra3 #hazbin hotel cursed cat alastor #oh no he's jumping in between universes 😭

[misssakurapetal28]

C@tra Stans: OMG why people are criticizing C@tra so much!? She’s a literal teenager! Poor baby! 🥺

Also C@tra Stans: OMG C@tra and C//A is SO sexy and spicy! I love it! 😍😍😍

#BTW criticism doesn’t equal HATE #It means people criticize C@tra that doesn’t mean they dislike her #And even if they did it still doesn’t equal hate #it’s not the same thing #at least not ALL the time #I like S1-S4 Catra as a character #I just don’t like how her redemption was handled #So mainly in S5 #So yes I want better for C@tra #but not out of expensive of everyone else #Also it’s funny how shippers and stans will use the they’re a kid excuse #as a means for her to not take any accountability for her actions #but then will call the CA ship sexy and spicy #even IF they’re children #Which one is it!? #spop she ra #spop #she ra spop #spop critical #anti catra #anti catradora #catra critical #she ra and the princesses of power #she ra #she ra 2018 #fandom critical #spop fandom critical #Don’t like scroll pass or block #misssakurapetal28

[tsff21]

Zuko: spends years working for a fascist regime, commits numerous war crimes, tries to kill the protagonists several times. Is redeemed in the end.

Viewers: this is a good redemption arc.

Catra: spends years working for a fascist regime, commits numerous war crimes, tries to kill the protagonists several times. Is redeemed in the end.

Some of those very same viewers: WTF THIS IS HORRIBLE WRITING AND ABUSE APOLOGISM!! NATE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF I BET HE ABUSES HIS PARTNER RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

#I hope you can see the point I’m trying to make #she-ra #she ra and the princesses of power #spop #catra #catradora #funny how the male villain’s redemption has less backlash than the female’s ain’t it?