My sister just rewatched Good Girls and I told her season 3 is so difficult for me because of all the angst. She told me it's not quite as angsty as she remembered it to be and she found season 4 way more angsty. Personally, I don't find the outcomes of Beth's betrayals in season 4 to be as angsty as the fallout of the shooting in season 3, but my sister seems to think so. I think Rio sulking about Beth and Nick that whole season might have added to it. She kept calling him a mopey puppy lol
He WAS a mopey puppy for a lot of season 4. 😂😂😂 Your sister is so funny, Anon! I wish anyone I know irl had watched this show with me. Much less re-watched. 😩
I’m trying to think back on the totality of season 4. It was definitely a difficult season for Rio. Although I get what you mean about the angst being different than in season 3. You’re right, season 3 was so raw and so emotionally hurt. It was like a fresh wound that neither of them knew how to navigate and neither of them could handle in quite the ways they wished they could. For Rio in particular there was just so much trapped emotion that kept slipping out. He was navigating through something new and learning where his limits were.
I think for me, season 4 was calmer because Rio seemed more settled into his feelings about Beth. He had almost given in and accepted that he isn’t able to stop what he feels, that while he wishes he didn’t feel as intensely for her he can’t control it. Season 4 I think showed a lot more self-acceptance from Rio very early on. I mentioned it once in this post, but I think Rio spent a lot of time thinking about all this through early season 4. The Smurfing scene is one of my favorites because I’m convinced he was out there pondering his life and his fixation.
Another scene where my headcanon says Rio was definitely sitting around brooding about Beth is the Boland Bubbles – Real Panty Dropper scene. Beth was so excited on her high of blackmailing a building inspector. She was so flirty and adorable, doing her “buy me a drink” bit as a callback to 2.09 where she flirted in a very similar way. But Rio was all grumpy-pants, sitting there unsmiling, telling her it’s not all about her.
Except it was all about her. Or at least all about Rio’s inevitable conclusion that he just couldn’t use that evidence he had on her and his stress about finding another way to protect them both. I’m absolutely convinced she didn’t need that thumbprint for him to not tell the cops he had her prints. This man had been sitting at that bar, coming up with a whole plan about saying he was at a fight and he didn’t know anything about any murders. And then she came in all peppy and excited about her husband’s new business, and Rio was so irritated – with her, with himself for giving a shit about her, with dumbass Dean and his dumbass business name…
All these brooding moments led to Rio’s conclusion that he just couldn’t live without her. Or at least he was gonna try to not live without her. He tried his damndest to show her his family, his vulnerability, his humanity. Trying to backtrack some of that anger and threat he gave her before. Hoping they could go back to the before. Nick was also an important catalyst, but Rio was kinda on his way anyway. On his way to forgiving her and asking to be chosen.
So yeah, season 4 is still raw. And 4.08 is a masterpiece of Rio and his messy management of his big emotions. But his angst here was different. More kind. More forgiving. More rooted in frustration and a want for peace rather than rooted in anger and a want for vengeance. Maybe your sister felt season 4 more acutely because men’s anger is so common and often is dismissed as not even an emotion. So season 3 didn’t hit that emotional note for her. Whereas men’s vulnerability – their capacity for sadness or hurt or pining – is sometimes seen as “weak” emotions, so on a man like Rio it came across mopey or comical or just otherwise uncomfortable to see. What do you think, Anon? Maybe I just like seeing a man who’s capable of a wide range of feelings, but I loved all of season 4 Rio. That whole season fed Rio lovers with more character development than all the other seasons combined.
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[ID: A limited palette of green and pink, Vashwood comic. The first page serves as a prologue. The first panel shows Vash speaking to someone off screen while Wolfwood is lingering behind him. A black arrow is drawn pointing at him. In the second panel, Vash is buying donuts in the distance while Wolfwood is once again in view, lingering. and the black arrow is drawn pointing at him. In the third panel, Vash is leaving a cubicle and turning towards his right with a slightly peeved expression. He sees Wolfwood, leaning against the cubicle, waiting for him, and with the black arrow drawn, pointing at him, implicating the consistent hovering of Wolfwood’s presence during Vash’s everyday. At the bottom of the page, they’re drawn out of panel with Vash turning to Wolfwood and saying with an irritated expression, “You’re really following me everywhere, huh?” Wolfwood responds, “What, you got a problem?” Vash responds without hesitation, “Yeah, kinda...”
The second page starts with a new day. In the first panel, Vash is seen alone, weighing apples in his hands at a mart, with crowds passing behind him. In the second panel, he turns to his right and starts to say, “Hey, Wolfwood...” In the third panel, he’s startled from seeing a stranger, whom he’d accidentally called out to when he was expecting to see Wolfwood. He says, “Oh, you’re not him. Sorry!” In the fourth panel, the stranger walks off and Vash muses, “Right, he said he had something to do today...”
The third page begins with a close up of Vash's miffed expression, the continuation of Vash's thoughts, "Now that he's not here, this is just like how I used to be, but... It feels lonely somehow. Oh well, I'll see him again tonight, like always." In the second panel, it shows Vash walking through the marketplace crowd, alone. In the third panel, the door panel is a close up of the door opening with a peek of Vash's head. He says, "Wolfwood!" In the fourth panel, Vash is holding a bag of food with a bright smile and says, "Are you hungry? I got you something to eat today!"
The fourth page begins with a shot of the room, two beds being highlighted, one of them being made properly with the blanket draped over the bed and the other with the blanket folded and pillow sitting on top of it. There's no sign of Wolfwood. The second panel shows Vash with a disappointed look as he thinks, "He's still not here?" The third panel shows Vash putting the bag of food on the table. Stapled to the paper bag is the receipt with a written note "For Wolfwood." Vash's thoughts continue "He does like to stay out so, I guess there's no reason to worry..." The fourth panel shows Vash sitting his bed somberly with his thoughts continued, "It's not any of my business anyway..."
The fifth page starts with a close up his blank expression as he looks downwards, thinking, "Even if he left completely... That'd be understandable and better for him. I'll just travel alone again... like before... Huh?" The next panel shows Vash's composure break, tears welling up in his eyes suddenly, as he didn't expect to cry. He starts to sob, putting his hands to his face to quiet himself and wipe at his tears, as he says, "Ugh... Dammit... I miss h..." The last panel shows Vash leaning over into his hands, still crying, and in the back, the door swings wide open with a bam as Wolfwood walks through with the punisher swung behind him. He shouts, "SPIKEY! You in here?!"
The sixth page starts with Wolfwood confused, looking at Vash and Vash looks back, just as confused, with tears in his eyes and snot out of his nose. Wolfwood starts saying, "Ah? You..." No longer in panels, at the bottom of the page, Wolfwood takes the Punisher off of himself and starts to walk towards Vash, continuing with slight concern, "What's wrong with you? Did something happen?" Vash, hurriedly begins to wipe at his tears, denying immediately, "No! No, I'm fine! Nothing happened!"
The seventh page, Vash points towards the table, with a hand still wiping at his tears and he smiles as he says, "I uh got you food. On the table." Wolfwood looks towards to the table and responds, "Oh. I was getting hungry, thanks." He turns his head back to Vash immediately after with an uncertain expression, knowing the other wasn't responding to his concern, and says, "But, I know you're an idiot with this stuff, so I'm reminding you again. Don't brush it off if it's an issue, alright?"
The eight page, Vash's tears have dried and he looks to Wolfwood with a soft smile and responds, "Yeah. It's okay though..." A panel at the center shows a side view of Vash approaching Wolfwood. At the bottom of the page, with no panel, is a close up shot of Vash's hand, holding onto the edge of Wolfwood's jacket sleeve, as he says, "Because you're here now. Wolfwood."
The final page is a back shot of both of them standing next to each other, Wolfwood's head tilted slightly to the left, not fully believing Vash as he says, "That doesn't answer anything, Spikey." Vash responds, "There's no need to talk about it! You should enjoy your food. Let's have a drink too?" Wolfwood responds, "Tsk, tsk. Fine, yeah. I could use one." END ID]
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atwow hot take:
if jake had said his "son for a son" shit out loud and spider had heard him, he would have been so beyond pissed, he would be seeing red.
spider loved his little siblings so much, neteyam included, even after they grew apart. he loved them like they were his own blood and protected them like they were too (we see a lot more of them together in the comics, where spider is the big brother without a doubt). neteyam's death most certainly rocked him hard, even if he hasn't really been able to show it (how could he? he's already going through all the shit with his dad and the RDA and their nonsense, he can't grieve around neytiri, he's just so tired after it all. he doesn't have the room or the energy to grieve yet)
so if jake had the audacity to say that to/around spider not even a few hours after he watched his little brother get shot after coming to save him, after he stared at the bullet hole in his back, after he watched him take his last breaths, after he watched the light leave his eyes, after he watched his little brother die for him; if he said that while his little brother's body lay in a pool of his own blood not even ten feet away, not even cold yet, blood still clinging to his chest, the scent of it still filling the air: he would have lost his shit.
because the disrespect for his brother is wild.
jake was an active player in spider's neglect and abuse for the last 16 years, he let it happen, he helped it happen. he tried to send spider with the humans, tried to take him away from his siblings, from the forests, from eywa to live with his foster family that didn't love him (not to mention Nash was an asswipe of epic proportions) and the RDA of all people. he had referred to spider as a stray animal since he was little. he was the reason spiders life was hell.
and after all that, years and years of putting him in shit positions and allowing him to suffer the fate of being forever unloved and uncared for (by an adult authority figure, cause I love the kids, but they don't make up for the gap left by a parent), this is what it took for jake to care about him? his little brother had to die in front of him first? he had to be traded out to fill the space of a corpse, to fill in the gap left by his little brother's death?
in canon, spider was in deep in shock with nothing to break him from it, he wasn't in the place to really think about any of it, and I'm sure we're gonna see this anger in the coming movies, but if jake had said it out loud, that would have been enough to snap spider right out of it, and he would have given jake a piece of his mind, I just know it.
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