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samasmith23 · 6 months

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The Retconning of Aunt May's death from Amazing Spider-Man #400... aka, screw John Byrne!

Wanna know something else we can criticize John Byrne for aside from his general creepiness and bigotry? He undid Aunt May’s death in the beautifully written Amazing Spider-Man (1963) #400, "The Gift," aka one of the best stories to come out of the entire infamous Clone Saga era.

Like... when Linkara reviewed the Web of Death storyline, one particular complaint he brought up was how all of the all the beautiful & emotional moments between Peter Parker and comatose Aunt May were severely undermined in hindsight due to the later retcon that this wasn't actually May Parker, but instead an highly-skilled actress whom Norman Osborn replaced Aunt May with after her stroke and made resemble Peter's aunt through cloning technology.

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And the person who was responsible for this controversial retcon? None other than John Byrne!

Byrne apparently refused to even initiate his divisive 1999 Chapter One and The Next Chapter reboots of the Spider-Man titles unless he was allowed to utilize Aunt May as a member of Peter's supporting cast. Consequently, this meant completely retconning Aunt May's lovely and tragic send-off by J.M. DeMatteis & Mark Bagley in ASM #400, even though that issue was highly regarded and celebrated by even the most hardened detractors of The Clone Saga era as a whole.

And you know what made the retconning of Aunt May's death even more stupid? It directly contradicted Norman Osborn's own recounting of The Clone Saga from his perspective in The Osborn Journal one-shot after he was revealed to be the true mastermind behind the whole saga. Writer & editor Glenn Greenberg specifically made sure to include these passages from Norman's private journals:

-"And as luck would have it, the clone -- Reilly -- learned of May Parker's stroke and returned to New York to be near her during her final days. This saved me the trouble of concocting some elaborate scheme to lure him back to the city."

-"Then the old woman finally died, delivering a major emotional blow to Parker and his wife. My only regret is that I was NOT the cause."

Yup, Greenberg wanted to make sure that DeMatteis' brilliant work from ASM #400 wouldn't be undone by having Norman himself state in his private journals that May's death was strictly due to natural causes instead of another part of his behind-the-scene's manipulations. Which makes sense considering that the entire issue was dedicated to Peter & Aunt May's final days together as she revealed to her nephew that she had always known he was Spider-Man and was deeply proud of him before passing away in her bed right besides Peter, Mary Jane & Aunt Anna, with Peter's final words to his surrogate mother-figure being him quoting his favorite childhood novel Peter Pan to her, telling Aunt May:

"Let go. Fly. 'Second to the right... and straight on until morning.'"

Its honestly one of the most simultaneously heartbreaking & beautiful scenes that I've personally ever read in a comic. The silent panels of Ben Reilly crying to himself on the roof of the house, unable to be by his Aunt's side during her final moments since he's only a clone of her nephew, especially tug at my heartstrings (poor Benjy)! And its an issue that resonates with me even more deeply today than back when I initially read it a few years ago, since I now know what it feels like to lose a dearly beloved relative, with both my paternal grandmother (Nana) and maternal grandfather (Paps) having since passed away.

But then John Byrne decided in his infinite wisdom to screw it all up, ignoring all of that emotional weight and feelings of down-to-Earth loss by not only revealing that the Aunt May Peter watched die was actually just a random actress whom Norman Osborn "genetically modified via the Jackal’s cloning technology" (which again… makes ZERO sense), but that Osborn apparently now lied in his own personal diaries or something?

So yeah, the resurrection of Aunt May by John Byrne during the Spider-Man: The Gathering of Five/The Final Chapter arcs is easily one of the most insulting retcons that I've ever encountered since it spits in the face of one of the most beautifully written single-issues that I've personally ever read (both because of how it personally resonates with me as someone who's lost two grandparents, and because is J.M. DeMatteis is among my Top 5 favorite comic book writers).

But trust me, this is the LEAST of John Byrne's problems, which fellow comic creator Ramon Villalobos made an excellent thread discussing in detail if you want further information:

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ewzzy · 1 year

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One of the worst Spider-Man comics of all time is The Gathering of Five and The Final Chapter. Among its many great offenses is ending one issue with Green Goblin triumphant with Spidey exposed and seemingly dead, then the very next issue going "That was just Norman's crazy brain. Never happened."

#spider-man #green goblin #the gathering of five #marvel comics

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chloesimaginationthings · 5 days

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How I assume salvaging went in FNAF pizza sim

#myart #chloesimagination #comic #fnaf #michael afton #william afton #scraptrap #springtrap #fnaf pizzeria simulator #fnaf fanart #five nights at freddy's #like pizza sim is just a big awkward family gathering #Michael isn’t even scared of William anymore #he just wants the dude to shut up already #the salvaging game in pizza sim is so peak btw #I hope the help wanted 2 dlc has a mini game like it!!#it would be so cool in vr..#GET HIS ass Michael!!#he deserves to do this it’s like free therapy 💜

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zahanh · 3 months

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fellow ragequit enjoyer??????????

RAGEQUIT BOMB 💣💥💥💥💥

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#rain world #drawing time #five pebbles #no significant harrasment #rw ragequit #also sorry for not answering earlier #I was gathering content of these two for thiss #answrm #rw noclip

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antaripirate · 7 months

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delilah bard:

#five days till threads #i’m feeling so overwhelmed #i wish i could explain how much it means to me that v is bringing us home to these characters and these worlds #i have a big post in my drafts with some thoughts #idk if i’ll post it #it’s probably really cringe to most people #anyway #lila bard means the world to me #adsom #a darker shade of magic #a conjuring of light #a gathering of shadows #shades of magic #v e schwab #lila bard #delilah bard #fragile threads #the fragile threads of power #threads of power

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carnivalcarriondiscarded · 6 months

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i have finally landed a job interview and i have Such mixed feelings about it

#on one hand: fucking finally i will be making my own money #on the other hand. sigh.#cant wait to do something i dont enjoy for at least eight hours per day five days a week #clenching my fist and thinking about the things i can buy to convince myself this is worth it #crafts. i can contribute to kofis. art. tasty beverage without feeling monumentally guilty. saving up to move somewhere i want to be #absolutely unprompted #i would add on the pro that id be less of a family disappointment #But that ship has long since sailed. any pride my parents express will just make me uncomfortable/mad so technically its a con!#'finally youre contributing to society' i dont WANT to contribute to society #society is a capitalistic hellscape. society needs a fucking reform #fuckign... biting people...#i belong in the paleolithic area. i would kill it at hunter-gathering. everyone would want me in their hunting/foraging group #id live so bright and fast and then die of eating the wrong mushroom... as nature intended...

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hoplessartist · 4 months

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i call upon the fans of A Darker Shade of Magic

From left to right:

Alucard Emery , Rhy Maresh, Holland, Delilah "Lila" Bard, Kell

#shades of magic #darker shade of magic #a gathering of shadows #v.e. schwab #These people are rotting my brain.#This took me five days to make #alucard emery #rhy maresh #Kell #lila bard #delilah bard #Holland #Holland A darker shade of magic #Kell A darker shade of magic #v.e. schwab shades of magic #fantasy books #Shades of magic Fan Arts

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findingcrow · 7 months

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I just realized that Will didn’t get the actual gathering experience for so long. His first one was interrupted by the Kalkaras, maybe he went to the second one, but his third? His fourth? The ones where he should have been celebrating, the ones where he should have been making friends and meeting the other rangers that he could have looked up to? He was in Skandia, forgetting everything because of warmweed. He was fighting in wars, battling enemies so much larger than him, and he was doing it almost entirely alone. He didn’t get to sing songs and show the other rangers his mandola, or yell to them Greybeard Halt, for at least 4 years. He barely got the full ranger experience until he was an adult.

#rangers apprentice #john flanagan #will treaty #ranger's apprentice #halt o'carrick #books #horace altman #gilan davidson #gatherings even though they’re meant to be professional always feel like family reunions and yet will only got that after almost dying like #five times #will treaty I’m so sorry #he deserved better #at least he had half #he did say that halt was family enough for anyone in kings of clonmel so #ok that’s all #thank you for coming to this ted talk

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mewniemoon · 5 months

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#secrectly this is all a ploy to gather more nicknames for a fic ououdux0ccpuc #anyone pebbles time go #rain world #rainworld #five pebbles #polls

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mtg-cards-hourly · 1 year

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Five Kids in a Trenchcoat

Artist: Emily Teng TCG Player Link Scryfall Link EDHREC Link

#mtg #magic the gathering #tcg #$0.20 #emily teng #five kids in a trenchcoat #mystery booster playtest cards 2021 #creature #human #citizen

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thatonefandomjumper · 9 months

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Schrodinger Bisexual Varian

#I've never seen Tangled the animated seris but this show has literally been haunting me for like five years now #Him specifically. I've been avoiding this show because I know I'll get hyperfixated and I know I'll love him so much #Anyway from what I've gathered this is basically the Hugo situation right?#tangled #tangled the series #varian #tts varian #varian and the seven kingdoms #varian vat7k #Vat7k

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comfortfoodcontent · 3 months

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1998 Marvel Comics House Ad featuring the MC2 Universe debut titles and Spider-Man: The Gathering of The Five

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jellycreamjammedart · 6 months

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so a discord sever had a prompt for using a simple pumpkin template for users to 'carve into'/draw over to make jack-o-lantern arts. so i went and made the Glamdad

left: OG

right: candle flame moves slightly

#fnaf #fnaf sb #five nights at freddy's #five nights at freddys #five nights at freddy's security breach #five nights at freddys security breach #glamrock freddy #halloween #pumpkin #jack o lantern #jack-o-lantern #jellycream art #normally i wouldve drawn something from scratch but i didnt quite have the energy so i used the template #gathering enough spoons is tough man

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haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted · 5 months

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Meeting of the Five by Dominik Mayer

#Magic the Gathering #MtG #MtGSNC #New Capenna #Streets of New Capenna #Meeting of the Five #Fantasy #Art #Dominik Mayer #Wizards of the Coast

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thecryptidart1st · 8 months

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*manifests with you cause I absolutely ADORE your take on Sammy*

The Sammy Summoning begins!

#fnaf #five nights at freddy's #sammy emily #we must gather more manifestors #totally unaccurate summoning circle #answering asks #the hurricane special

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antaripirate · 5 months

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Another round of silly little Kellila headcanons:

If Kell and Lila are sleeping in the palace, they often wake to find Esa curled up with them. Kell loves it because he’s always wanted a cat of his own. Lila is PISSED. (She doesn’t want to share her Kell cuddles with Esa.)

Kell is scared of storms. It could be because of how he was sold as a child, on the sea in shitty weather. It could be because the feeling of being within a storm is too similar to Osaron/Virtari trying to take over. Maybe he and Rhy used to hide away from storms growing up. He tries really hard to help on deck when they’re caught in a storm but he tends to freeze up. Lila somehow always manages to both steer the ship to safety and keep Kell calm.

Kell’s favourite nap spot is with his head on Lila’s lap. Lila’s favourite pillow is Kell’s chest.

Every time they dock back in London, Tieren would prepares a huge box of treatments for them to take when they set sail, just in case they need them out at sea.

Lila somehow discovers she enjoys romance novels but is embarrassed about it, so she stashes them under her bed. Kell eventually finds them and teases her, but then makes up for it by promising to recreate absolutely anything she wants from them.

Whenever they’re docked or not far offshore, Kell befriends any birds that land on the ship. He gets a little sad when they’re too far offshore and they fly away. Lila thinks it's precious but would never admit it, though she gives him extra jobs to do to take his mind off it.

Lila is incredibly grumbly in the morning. Kell thinks it’s adorable.

When they’re in London, Ren always wants Uncle Kell to tell her a bedtime story, and he always tells her stories about pirates (they are literally all about Captain Bard).

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