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a-sentimental-man · 7 months

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THEM!!!! HOLY FUCK

#THEYRE BLUSHING!!!?#mha 304 #okay i forgot what chapter it os im reeling rn #bnha spoilers #bnha manga leaks #bkdk #bakudeku

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darkcircles4lyfe · 1 year

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The Missing Ingredient

Tonight I was casually rereading the chapters that are about to be adapted in the anime when something hit me, and now I have to talk about it ASAP even if it’s not fully fleshed out. You’re getting insomniac-Lin this time, folks.

So. Chapter 304, the one where Izuku finally gets to speak with the vestiges while he’s unconscious in the hospital, has bugged me since the day it came out. I couldn’t articulate it, but something about the way OFA was explained felt like conjecture, or like it was made up on the fly. Idk, it just seemed kinda weak. The detail that I think gets overlooked is that this “lore” is, in fact, conjecture. All Might’s, specifically. It’s his research and logical assumption that led to the conclusion that quirkless people are the only ones able to handle OFA. But we can and should consider the explanation given in 304, that whole business with the overflowing chalices, to be unreliable narration. It is simply a somewhat educated guess.

Like I said, I’ve thought this for a while, but I wasn’t able to get any further with it. Tonight, I went over it again, and I asked myself: other than the fact that All Might was quirkless, what else makes him different from his predecessors? All Might specifically compared himself to the 4th, the one who died of old age, so I did the same. Well… the only other thing about the 4th that stands out is that he spent his life totally alone. This fact is emphasized clearly, and yet, it’s significance is hiding in plain sight: what if the isolation is what killed him?

Thematically, this story has established the dangers and damaging effects of isolation many times, from All Might’s lonely career, to the Todoroki family’s dysfunction, to society’s abandonment of the villains, to Izuku’s misadventures as a solo act. I could go on, but the point is, we are led to see that people become their worst selves when they are alone. Horikoshi has drilled this idea so deeply into the way I analyze bnha that I now look at the 4th and see that he epitomizes the flaw of self-isolation. He kept well hidden and he devoted himself to training, but in the end it wasn’t enough. What is enough? Why is Yagi Toshinori still alive to this day despite the fate Night Eye saw for him? Unless you believe he’s still bound to die, which I don’t, then there’s one simple reason: Izuku. It wasn’t only All Might who changed Izuku’s life, but also the other way around. Because of Izuku, Toshinori gradually regained his sense of purpose and drive, his very will to keep living even when “All Might” was long gone. Because of their bond, he is given the gift of a life beyond passing the torch of OFA. That in itself is something no previous OFA user has ever had before. THAT, if you ask me, is what sets him apart. So what does that say about OFA?

Let’s backtrack for a second. Chapter 304 also directly states that OFA drastically changed about four months prior:

I think we can accept this as reality because it’s just an observation, BUT. What’s odd is it’s left without a “why.” As in, why did it change? Was it simply the “right time?” Was there a trigger? Was it a milestone of Izuku’s strength? No definitive explanation is offered. I decided to look back on “four months ago” and see if I could pick up on anything. Of course it’s referring to when Izuku first had a vision of his predecessors in a dream, and when he unlocked blackwhip—but again, no one knew “why now?” I found that the progress made in this arc is actually nicely summarized in chapter 257:

Here we see that Izuku finally feels like he has a place in the world and a true connection with people he cares about, specifically with Toshinori and Katsuki. Incidentally, this is also the chapter where we learn that the previous OFA users all died young, and it ends with Toshinori talking about what it means for him to keep living. It’s no longer about “helping” in the way he used to as a hero, but just being there for others as a person. So the growth of OFA coincides with Izuku’s developing relationships.

The logical assumption that I’m now going to make is that Toshi’s consciousness in the OFA realm exists because of the connection he forged with Izuku. His fire-y spectral presence is not a vestige at all, not even remotely the same thing as the other previous users, which are only there because of their quirk factors. They are more like memories of people, whereas Toshi’s is a manifestation of a living soul. Still, we would be led to assume it only forms within OFA because Toshinori himself once had the quirk. However…

Katsuki is involved now too. And I don’t think we can claim he is a previous OFA user since Heroes Rising is only loosely canon and the transfer was never completed anyway. Rather, like Toshinori, Katsuki is a deeply important person in Izuku’s life, and that apparently is enough. Since Toshinori normally has a slight psychic connection to his OFA manifestation, my guess is Katsuki also had this vague sort of sense, and maybe a ghostly manifestation of his own, but in his current near-death state, that signal is strengthened to the point where he is fully aware and present inside OFA. As for the reason he’s in a separate setting to the vestiges, and Toshinori’s manifestation is also there, it’s like a Venn diagram. The previous users are in one place, living people closest to Izuku are in another, and Ghost Toshi can go between them because he is both, the overlap of the Venn diagram. Regardless of these technical details though, I think the clues point to the idea that OFA grows from and is meant to be used by someone who is interdependent and has supportive relationships, while isolation causes it to behave like a parasite. The concept also lends itself well to OFA affecting/providing power to others, namely Katsuki, if one is so inclined to those theories. Where I’m at right now, I just think OFA and its wielder have finally gained something they’ve been missing all along. But Izuku still has to fully embrace that.

#bnha manga #mha #boku no hero academia #my hero academia #bnha meta #all might #yagi toshinori #midoriya izuku #bakugou katsuki #one for all #ofa #bkdk #bakudeku #dkbk #dekubaku #lin speaks

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villainsandvictimsalliance · 1 month

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Something I wish to know is that if the damage generated while Tomura used the AFO quirk can be reverted immediately by regeneration, which means that even if Tomura loses the AFO quirk, he'd have no lasting damage for its use.

I said it because we know that some of the lines in Tomura's body are due to the strain created from using multiple quirks in a single body.

On the contrary (I don't think it's what will happen but I'm doing the worst case scenario here), if the regeneration quirk couldn't protect Tomura from the effects of being the user of multiple quirks at the same time, then Tomura's body could collapse on its own.

Yet another alternative is that Tomura's new body mutation would make up for that, maybe?

Anyway, here are the panels that evidence what I'm saying: * check ATL text for the transcripts.

In chapter 304, the fourth vestige talks about being the user of multiple quirks, the crack that appeared on his body and the why he died.

And these are some of the most recent panels (bnha 414) of Tomura, where you can see the paralleled lines on his face. They've been there since Doc Garaki did the surgery to have him AFO's quirks

#bnha #mha #my hero academia #boku no hero academia #league of villains #lov #mha spoilers #bnha spoilers #shigaraki tomura #fourth vestige

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transmanmonoma · 10 months

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So I've been re-reading BNHA to get caught up (I'm on chapter 304), and it's interesting to see how different I feel about stuff this time around. A lot has changed in my life over the past few years, including my personal politics and my understanding of the world. One big thing that happened was that I both became more disabled and finally got over my hangups around whether or not I'm "allowed" to call myself disabled. So this time around I'm seeing the work through the lens of being disabled, neurodivergent, and chronically ill. It's really wild to suddenly see how disability is everywhere, and effects pretty much every aspect of the story

It's not just that there are a lot of disabled characters (though there definitely are), but how many of the themes touch on or relate to disability. Right from the start, with Izuku's "people aren't created equal" bit, which is explicitly linked to his lack of ability to do something other people can. Quirklessness, as well as other "weak" quirks, can be easily read as a metaphor for disability. I would even argue that Touya's quirk is a disability in that society

Eugenics is also a big theme in BNHA. The whole toe joint thing explicitly links having a quirk to being "more evolved", and both groups like the MLA and individuals like Endeavor clearly hold eugenicist ideals. Historically speaking, disabled people have been heavily targeted by eugenics (though we're not the only group by any means). Geten even says "people with weak quirks should die to make room for stronger people" to Touya because of his disability

There are also themes that touch on interdependence and the fact that no one ever really does things entirely on their own. That concept isn't exclusive to disability, but it's an important part of understanding it. Izuku talks a lot about how he's only gotten as far as he has because of the help he's gotten from others. Monoma's bit about knowing what he can't do and not being able to be a "main character" also echoes how I feel about my own capabilities as a disabled person (and tbh I could write a whole meta on him being coded as disabled). I know my limitations, I know how to work within them, and I know that pushing myself beyond my limits in search of some mythical "self-sufficiency" would only break me in the end

On the opposite side of that, we see characters who do push themselves beyond their limits and pay the price. Aizawa is the clearest example of this. As a teenager he struggled to do things on his own, but was able to accept the support of his friends so that he didn't have to. But after Shirakumo's death, the way he coped with his grief was by forcing himself to try to become self-sufficient (I say try because no one ever really is). He clearly internalizes the idea that a hero can't afford to rely on others, and even passes that on to Shinsou. And that isn't healthy. Aizawa's been running himself ragged for fifteen years, much in the same way that disabled people who are capable of working are forced to under capitalism

Anyway, this isn't super carefully thought out or anything, the idea just popped into my head so I had to write about it. I didn't really touch on mental health/neurodivergence, but that's because I have a lot of complicated feelings about how that shows up in BNHA that would need their own meta to explore. I might add more later, but if y'all wanna expand on this go ahead (but if you're abled, stay in your lane)

-Oliver (it/its)

#bnha #mha #meta #analysis #disability #tbh im not sure how much sense this will make to ppl who dont already have the framework im using here #or just like... at all. my brain sucks at communicating sometimes #so if you dont get it you can ask for clarification #but i dont wanna argue so please dont start shit #the quicksilvers say

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class1akids · 2 years

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given that quirks are genetic there is a theory that if a ofa user had a kid /descendants they would inherit some of the sparks and could stand having more than one quirk basically its that bakugou is a descendant of second user and that because of this he would be able to use ofa without the detriment same to tenko

Maybe. Although it would contradict pretty much everything Chapter 304 said (like how All Might was the first user who truly made OFA his own quirk), but OFA-lore is so shady, I can imagine whatever bullshit explanation. The whole "only quirkless people can use it" was also clearly a retcon so there is no issue after the war to explain why Deku should keep it.

I am personally not a fan of Bakugou being related to the 2nd (I simply don't see what it brings to his character, and I do like Bakugou's outsider and genetic jackpot background) and I really don't want his upgrade to be Deku giving him OFA.

He just upgraded his quirk after the war, barely saw him fight with it, and then got a second upgrade of full-body explosions, which we saw for exactly one page. I don't mind Bakugou tapping into OFA somehow for a boost or if Deku's quirk allows somehow to share it around temporarily, but I don't think Deku transferring it in this endgame would work as well as it did in the heroes rising setting.

And I want Bakugou's wins to be on his own merit, not because Deku bestows something on him.

I don't mind though if Deku uses some of OFA's power to heal Bakugou (and maybe depletes the power). But to me, the only good endgame is if OFA disappears from the BNHA world, together with AFO.

#c1a asks #bnha manga spoilers #bnha manga leaks #bnha speculation

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scftizuku · 3 years

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I believe OFA is meant to be “a blessing and a curse.” because from what Bakugo states he sees OFA as a curse because Deku keeps breaking his bones and never taking himself into account. Meanwhile Deku sees OFA as a blessing because he met All Might, attended U.A, and was given the chance to learn how to become a hero. He got to explore what it would be like to have a quirk and from what we know about Deku he grew over the course of the story. Back to Bakugo.. OFA being a curse makes sense to him since the fate of the world is on Deku’s shoulder.

#bnha #mha #my hero academia #boku no hero academia #boku no hero #bakugou katsuki #midoriya izuku #my hero academia manga #bkdk #bakudeku #dynamight #OFA #deku #bnha chapter 304 #mha 304 #bnha 304 #all might #toshinori yagi

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homochako · 3 years

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so All Might held OfA for 40 years... and received the quirk in middle school... so he's canonically between 52 and 55 years old.

Huh, that's a little older than I was expecting, but not too far off.

edit: he would’ve been in this age range at the beginning of the story at least. he’s had a birthday since he gave his quirk to Izuku.

#bnha #boku no hero academia #bnha spoilers #bnha 304 #toshinori yagi #yagi toshinori #all might #one for all #ofa #toshinori yagi (all might)#rosie's posts #bnha chapter 304 #mha #my hero academia #mha spoilers #mha 304 #edit: could be 56 max now since deku got the quirk a year ago

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kiritouyadeku96 · 3 years

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I’m not going to lie I absolutely despise this Bak-u-go theory, and I’m absolutely praying that this dude in timeout reveals himself in 305 to not be Bakugou! I despise it sooo much 😫 I hate it even more than the Dad for one theory, bloody hell I would much prefer the Dad for one theory to be come canon than this one!

#of course I’ll accept it if it becomes theory but I dislike it so much!#and I refuse to accept that guy is Bakugou until he reveals his face!#bnha spoilers #mha spoilers #mha 304 #bnha 304 #bnha chapter 304 #mha chapter 304

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mindmakesmemes · 3 years

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It hit like a ton of bricks @_@

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ijustwannameme · 3 years

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Damn I expected but didn't expect my theories to come true

(manga spoilers)

But to basically explain I had a theory for a long while now that deku was going to be the last succesor but for different reasons

Originally I believed he was gonna be the last due to how dangerous and lethal OFA is now and with deku unlocking the past users quirks and consciousness in a sense.... It just seemed like so matter who tried welding the quirk after deku, no matter their quirk their most likely gonna explode from the inside out and not being able to handle the strain, didn't expect the whole quirkless-ness to be brought up but makes sense

I mean deku barely handled it when he first had it as well, and to me it seems even with a quirkless person being dekus next succesor there is a very unlikely chance they would survive and handle the backlash

Tho will say this would basically confirm to those who think deku shouldn't have ofa that he is legit the only one that can survive welding it, which is ironically due to his quirkless status, the one thing that had supposedly stopped him from being a hero

#Bnha #bnha manga spoilers #Bnha chapter 304 #Izuku midoriya #Izuku is the last succesor theory is confirmed guys #Ima say I'm vibing cuz a lot of the theories iv believed in for so long is true #Or at least a part of the it is confirmed true #Like it was expected he would be the last but...#I LOVE THAT HIS QUIRKLESS STATUS IS BROUGHT UP AND ACTUALLY BENEFIT HIM #Also to those that think deku shouldn't have ofa and dont deserve it #Despite the story saying otherwise #Have this chapter spit at your face #one for all #One for all users

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fried-manto · 3 years

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The REAL debut of depressed looking deku :0

im alr starting to regret making this but for what its worth, its worth my time. :) as of right now we are are waiting for the new chapter to come but sadly we have to wait a little longer this time.. so why not do this kind of stuffs to kill time? so everyone must think the ‘’ depressed looking deku ‘’ made its debut during chapter 306 on these particular panels

or they can even say it goes back to chapter 304 on the “ you may be the last successor of One For All “ reaction

OR it could even date

way

back!

BUT NO. it dates WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back to the beginning, at chapter 1, the day deku got his confidents and motivations deflated just to get it inflated at the end of the chapter. but before that, before deku’s body “moved on its own to save bakugou from the sludge villian “ theres a moment like this,

after being told suggested to commit suicide by his childhood friend and getting his dream crush by his own idol, this is the face of depressed looking deku making its debut. okay technically his trying to see whats going on but yer get what i mean. guy just got told he aint gonna be able to achieve his dreams and his trying to suck it all up , cut him some slack! aha pls dont hate me for this, im honestly doing it JUST for fun. i also just found this out when i went to reread the series just a moment ago so pls dont go “ duh, how did you not know? “ to me in the chat box later when you finish reading this and wanted to call me out for it. okay wow you made it this far, thanks for reading my weird discovery document haha..

#bnha #mha #boku no hero academia #izuku midoriya #deku #middle school deku #bnha chapter 306 #bnha chapter 304 #bnha chapter 1 #depressed looking deku #bnha chapter 322 #hehe i taged the newest chapter so more ppl will find this out #btw thanks for whoever reading this #btw i dont recommend you tapping the depressed looking deku tag #trust me #dont do it #im the only who used the depressed deku tag normally #others used it for some mha character x y/n fanfic #i found it out the hard way

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belatedbday69 · 3 years

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bakugou and deku meet again after this is all over / chapter 304 spoilers

It’s late in the summer after their first year at UA. Izuku’s been missing for months, but finally, finally, everything is okay again. Izuku is coming back to school.

This, of course, Katsuki hears second-hand from Mina, who’d heard it from some 1-B kid who overheard All Might and Aizawa talking in the Teacher’s lounge, which is hardly what Katuski would call a reliable source, but after months of waiting, he’s ready to cling onto even the faintest of hopes.

“Thank god he’s coming back. You’ve been absolutely unbearable these last months.” Mina cackles. Kirishima agrees, shaking his head as he laughs.

“Fuck off,” Katsuki seethes. He walks down the hall and back to his room, his classmates giving him a wide birth as he does, which just makes him grind his teeth even harder in response.

It’s basically his fault that Izuku left, that it took him this long to come back. If they’d worked together, things wouldn’t have happened this way…

Katsuki doesn’t get any sleep that night. He can’t stop thinking about what he’s going to say, how he’ll say it, as if any of the words he can come up with sound good enough.

When Izuku comes back to the dorms, there’s something different about him. Katsuki watches as their classmates swarm him, giving him hugs and presents and praise. He’s quieter now, like he’s holding back.

Katsuki stays back, waiting patiently. Izuku finally shuffles up to him looking anywhere but his eyes.

“Hey Kacchan,” he says, almost too quiet. He catches his eyes just once, giving him a half-smile.

“Deku.” Katsuki can’t trust himself to say more. He wants to fly off the handle, to tell him how much he hurt him, how much of an idiot he was for going off without him. What if he’d hurt himself? And Katsuki wasn’t there? What if he’d died? Or worse? Or worse?

But he can’t bring himself to open his mouth.

Izuku clicks like he’s about to start talking, then doesn’t. He breathes out, then chews on his cheek, deep in thought.

“I’m sorry.”

Katsuki scoffs. “Fuck’re you apologizing for? I’m -” He has to swallow back the lump in his throat. He looks up to see Mina, Sero, some of the others standing nearby, trying not to eavesdrop but doing a pretty piss poor job of it. He sneers at them then turns to the side to just face Izuku.

Katsuki wants to speak but he can’t. He can’t say a word because he’d realized, somewhere along those long summer months, that he has feelings for this idiot. Feelings so fucking out of his control now, only amplified by not being near him. And now he’s here, standing right in front of him, safe, and Katsuki doesn’t want to be mad, he just wants to - wants to -

“I’m sorry. I should’ve been there.”

Izuku’s eyes widen. His words come out stilted. “You - don’t need to apologize -”

“Dammit, Deku.” Katsuki grabs the front of his shirt and roughly pulls him in despite the panicked look on his face. “Promise me you’ll never pull any shit like this again.” His words barely a whisper, their noses centimeters from touching. “I was - I should’ve -” Katsuki’s voice breaks and he turns away again, his palms trying to push back the tears in his eyes.

“Kacchan. I - I promise. I promise.” He pulls on Katsuki’s shoulder, trying to reach him. After a moment of resisting him, for some reason, Katsuki lets him. Izuku wraps an arm around his back and brings his forehead down to touch his shoulder. “I missed you, too.”

#this is like #my au where everything is kind of chill #au where everything is a little less intense lol #hope they meet before this #i just needed this okay #i miss them so much #bkdk #bakudeku #katsudeku #decchan #dkbk #bnha chapter 304 #i just want fluff more than anything #the angsty fluff u know #my writing

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youarentreadingthis · 3 years

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ofa holders r u ok there

#bnha #bnha leaks #bnha spoilers #bnha chapter 304 #mha #mha leaks #mha spoilers

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summitmach2 · 3 years

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!!!SPOILERS FOR CHAPTER 304 AHEAD!!!

I legit laughed so hard at this. I know it’s supposed to be depressing and all, as well as logical, but I just,,,Nana being so intense about asking Izuku to kill her grandson is just....im wheezing.