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codgod-moved · 1 year
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i wish i had the mental capability to get into a stream-based smp again qsmp looks so fun but i just. cannot do a series that’s entirely livestreams. that’s a good chunk of the reason i fell off dsmp it was EXHAUSTING
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etoilesbienne · 6 months
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its just the fact that like, they think it would be funny if his kids died. i dont like how flippant the fandom is with child death. its not something to joke about even in fiction. idk if thats sensitive. i just appreciate that bad treats the topic with respect.
i guess this counts as criticism so im throwing it under a readmore but its mostly just my thoughts on the whole thing so like ! its on you if you choose to read
i think thats a fair criticism and i personally dont mind jokes about eggs dying from fans in certain contexts (mostly bc i think itd be hypocritical of me to say im against all of them atp ive definitely Made similar jokes and im not going to pretend i haven't ever. especially early on when cc i did like got harassed off the server over them & they weren't as big of a plot element/characters. I think a lot of it comes down to some fans seeing eggs as children vs some fans seeing them as pixel robot eggs. i see why one side thinks its inscrutably fucked up and i see why one side sees it as a nonissue. but i digress.) but it DOES feel like a lot of them end up being so harshly mean and even then like... its one thing when fans say it because i know theyre not actually affecting the story or the plot and i can just be haters in dms to people about it like lol look at this idiot fan saying they want the eggs to die.
compared to a character in rp saying it and now theres people rallying behind the idea :-| especially so late in the story. there's a different context to wanting the eggs dead now, over half a year after their introduction & after the characters have been fighting for the eggs back for almost a month vs wanting the eggs dead in april when they seemed like a gimmick that went just a bit too long. im just not sure how much i like the angst going on with this. im the number one misqommunication smp fan usually but this is just like angsting for the sake of angst in ways that aren't fun to watch for me.
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rat-rosemary · 1 year
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To be frank with you, I don’t think that Dream went about announcing or creating the USMP in a good way.
For starters, Dream could have shown basic respect for Quackity and waited before announcing his SMP. He couldn’t even congratulate Quackity for the QSMP without making it about himself. Dream didn’t even wait a month before announcing the USMP, which you must admit is very similar to Quackity’s idea, which has been in the making for way longer than Dream’s has, based on how Dream doesn’t even have all 60 members of his server nor, you know, an actual quality translator (at least based upon his most recent video).
Plus, what connection does Dream have to other languages? I, for one, distinctly mentioning something about how the only language he speaks is winning, and yet now he’s all for overcoming cultural bounds and uniting people from all across the world? I acknowledge that a person’s opinions can change, but then again, there’s the matter of timing that I mentioned earlier.
Overall, I don’t believe that Dream would have been condemned this way if he had announced the USMP later. However, I do believe that he is being heavily inconsiderate of Quackity and that there is a very high possibility that he is trying to ride off of Quackity’s coattails for whatever reason. That reason could be relevancy, as with the obviously faked letter that he supposedly got from Google (obviously faked because of the multiple spelling and grammar issues), or it could be that he is trying to replicate the DSMP and its popularity again.
Regardless, even without getting into the moral qualities of Dream’s character and whether the accusations about him are true, it’s obvious that he is being rude to a certain degree (the degree of which is debatable, but the rudeness definitely not) towards Quackity and what he is trying to achieve with the QSMP.
Sorry for typing out this long essay, but I feel strongly about this topic, and whenever I feel strongly about something, my brain goes into writing mode (it’s the autism—just kidding, of course). I hope I didn’t come off too mean, I just wanted to share with you my views on why the Dream might not have the best intentions for creating the USMP.
Okay so i also talk a lot but my thoughts come a lot more fractured so you might see a ton of edits to this post
So first of all, i actually do agree that the announced of the usmp was not very good. Personally i think he should maybe have waited a bit more, or idk, but i do agree that it didn't come out the best way
The thing about connection to other languages I think that Dream is doing it both because of some of his friends (Korean in specific, Tina really want to learn korean again after she lost most of what she knew, and there are a few more youtubers Dream is friends with and/or knows that know or are korean) and because he genuinely enjoyed connecting with people from other places and languages! Idk if you saw him during the squid games and more even on spreen's heaven event but he was clearly having lots of fun and really really loving talking to people
And a thing about the Dt that most people who dont watch them dont really know, is that they're all kind of shy around new people. Dream is exited but kind of scared, Sapnap is really really shy and will stick to people he knows (you can see on his first irl stream with Karl, he looked like a spooked cat) and George will be weird with people he doesn't know but he doesn't really make a connections quickly like how Quackity for example does
You can really see how these events left a really strong impact on Dream (and his community!)
(Also, some other languages might also been chosen because of his friends, Foolish, Tubbo, Tina and [Oh fuck another person but i forgot her name] were/are working really really hard on learning Spanish, but didn't really get a chance to use it. Other ones, like Japanese, might just be a "oh! I bet there are tons of cool people there" but really i dont know the streamers, so i cant say for sure)
I can talk a bit about why portuguese tho! Most big brasilian youtubers started out as minecraft youtubers, and they're actually really big! I cant really vouch for them (they're not bad, just... like annoying bad, except that one guy, but we dont talk about Monarca) some of our youtubers were on the top of all creators on the site a few years ago (i havent really looked since then)
So it's a big untapped community that does actually love interacting with people from other countries (there's a reason that "come to Brasil" is a meme, other then the fact that no band ever comes to brasil)
I cannot comment on the google thing because i genuinely dont really know what you're talking about
But about congratulating Quackity, I think multiple cc's were congratulating Quackity and saying his project was really cool (including Dream) even before it was announced, and im pretty sure he congratulated Q after the qsmp trailers came out
But yeah, again I think it was kind of weird how the announcement of the usmp came, but i dont think it was because Dream genuinely wanted to hurt Quackity or try to overshadow him
About the quality of the translation, i actually think its kinda funny? It definitely shows that Dream (and Callahan! Who is absolutely incredible) were actually trying to create this themselves and not just copying from something else.
I also think its not meant to really be perfect? I for sure think it will be better when we see it live, but I think the usmp and the version of the translator we see in it are not meant to be the best version it can be, but more an example so people can take it and alter it and transform it. Thats why i think its free to access and edit, because it was meant to be taken and changed by the community
But hey! One of my favorite tropes is language barriers, so i might he a bit biased on the "It's okay that the translator is glitchy thing"
(I also think that language is so complex that the translator will never truly be perfect, with complicated words and frases and *regional dialects and words that dont truly have translations, like "saudade" or "cafune", i think that there will always be little misunderstanding and confusion and bugs, but we can just pause and try to explain it differently, like it always is in conversations)
[*side note, im kind of doxxing myself a little, but my dialect literally replaces the word "thing" for the word "train" and we only do that in my state. You can also always tell when someone writes something in portuguese making sure that people could translate it because we talk/text completely different, you can translate você but not ce so some things get caught up]
This is actually really nice! Its nice to share views without being aggressive and going for each other's throat. I hope is discussed everything? It's 2:31 am and im sick so i might have missed something and im glad to talk more about it if you want to
But yeah, long story short, i do agree that the delivery of the usmp was weird and kind of disjointed, but i think it came from a place of genuine love and excitement with Dream, he just hyperfoxused on it and forgot to think of some stuff. And i think it will be fun to have multiple multilingual smps and that in the ends usmp and qsmp will be different in some core ways
I hope i wasnt rude as well! If i did i genuinely didn't want to come off as agressive
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arcadianico · 9 months
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for the ask game: 1, 11, 24, 31, 32, 40?
1. favorite theory
i like the theory that qq is a clone of elq. i think it makes a lot of sense, both as to why elq has so much more power in the federation that he should if he was just a. puppet, and as to why qq more than literally everyone else seems to not remember anything before the island. also the dubiously canon nature of q’s simply knowing more about the island at the beginning
11. favorite npc/side character/non island residents (this does not include eggs)
walter bob. he’s just a guy! he’s overworked and under appreciated and he definitely needs to be informed about the benefits of unionisation
24. what lore/arc have you enjoyed the most?
everything with elq. he intrigues me so much. i just want to dissect him yk
31. current favorite stream? or one you’ve enjoyed the most
i mean i’ve watched the stream after q’s kidnapping, where we first met elq, maybe five times? so probably that one. i just find the way q plays elq and qq so differently in such subtle ways right from start incredibly interesting
32. name a song that reminds you of a character or pairing/group
my way is 100% qq’s theme. also will ye go lassie go and you are my sunshine both make me think of tilín. probably my own fault for putting them on my tilín playlist but i can’t listen to them anymore without thinking about tilín.
40. name a song from the language you speak or one of the languages you speak
i’m assuming this is just meant to be any song and not related to the smp specifically so um… again the question of what counts as speaking comes up but here goes:
english - probably piano man by billy joel (because i was listening to it earlier) or the men behind the wire, which is an irish rebel song about those held without charge it trial at long kesh prison camp in northern ireland during the troubles
spanish - rosa pastel because it makes me think of luckity. otherwise el aguante by calle13 keeps coming up on my playlist and i enjoy it
french - où est ma tête? by pink martini. i think i first heard it in a french class in high school and idk i just really like it. it’s fun
german - maybe schrei nach liebe by die ärzte. it’s just a song making fun of neonazis. or hurra by the same band which very sarcastically talks about how the reunification of germany definitely made things better
yiddish - אין אָלע גאַסן/הײ הײ דאַלױ פּאָליצײ is a fun one. the original fuck the police
irish - i don’t really speak irish very well at all, though i do intend to learn properly at some point, but oro sé do bheatha ‘bhaile is too gorgeous not to mention
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acerace · 3 years
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...you have opened my eyes to a vast universe of VintageBeef lore that I was unaware of. I knew about the New Hermit Order, of course, and the UHC invention, and I've watched a few of his CTM things but -- I will take all the info and lore you feel like giving out because Beef is amazing and my knowledge is so small.
Vintagebeef my beloved <3
So the thing is, right, until about 2016 I only watched two (2) youtubers- Vintagebeef for Minecraft and aDrive for Pokemon (and funnily enough both of them are named Dan irl). So I've watched most of Beef's videos over the years and have a general knowledge of most of his stuff, except because it's been like a decade I don't remember where most of the lore comes from XD
The thing with him is that he doesn't do Lore tm the way other mcyters often do lore- he doesn't have an extensive RP series to draw from like Grian, doesn't have a solo world with steadily increasing amounts of lore like Etho or Zisteau, and while he's played on SMPs and been involved in storylines before it's not really the focus of his episodes unlike with Evo or Legacy or Empires
So where does that leave us?
IRL, Beef always has multiple series running at the same time. Often he's playing on an smp while doing a singleplayer, often modded, series as well as a CTM or modpack with a group of friends. For example, right now he's playing on Hermitcraft, doing weekly Pixelmon and Building a Zoo episodes, and a CTM map with Slip. And to me, this translates to one thing: Beef is an adventurer. He travels frequently- he explores a world and when he decides he's done, he leaves for the next one. That's the basis of my personal interpretation of his series and his character for my writing.
Ok so reading this back, this got extremely long and didn't explain much in the way of lore, somehow? If anyone has any additions to add please do so, I am very definitely leaving out a lot and would love to see what other lore people remember and are using for Beef! I didn’t include the Hermitcraft stuff since my memory of season 4 is blurry (his base was themed after the Martian, that much I know, and he and Iskall were buddies :D) and most of the s5 NHO lore is best watched from Bdub’s perspective from what I remember, and the only s6 stuff is a single line in Hermitgang and then the Area 77 arc with its possibility of an NHO reunion which we did not get rip. And s7 of course had the cloning machine and also the Podzol Party as the main lore. So all the original rambling is still below the cut though it is very long, and I'm gonna bullet point the main stuff here instead:
Actual canonical things:
Invented UHC and was the only survivor of the first ever uhc (Mindcrack UHC s1)
Married to an ender dragon (one of the UHCs I think), later father to a different dragon (Mindcrack season 3? I think?)
Might not have legs if you choose to take that joke as canon (Mindcrack s2)
Was a wizard (RAD)
is a zookeeper (Building a Zoo) 
Had a wife and kids (Sims in Minecraft)
Part of the Trial of the B Team court case (Mindcrack)
NHO founder, founder of the Podzol Party (Hermitcraft)
Created a cloning machine that sort of works (Hermitcraft)
Played the Forest which is I believe the first time he and Keralis played together (look up the trigger warnings for this one, it's a horror game)
Was the creator/owner of Sourceblock SMP (featuring some familiar faces if you know Legacy, Empires, or MCC) and there is literal magic from a mysterious sourceblock of water that teleports people and summons mobs and probably more stuff that I haven't seen yet since I'm still watching it myself
Things you can infer:
Good with animals (Life in the Woods, Pixelmon, Ark)
Is a car nerd (irl and all of the car games he's played)
Is a highly experienced adventurer who has traveled through dozens of worlds both vanilla and modded, across multiple dimensions (Twilight Forest, the Aether, the Betweenlands, Limbo), completed dozens of monuments, fought in blood sports, survived apocalypse after apocalypse, tamed dinosaurs, and played a lot of prop hunt and golf with your friends
If you're looking for what to watch for lore purposes, I'd say the Mindcrack UHCs and Team Canada's RAD series are pretty good, definitely Sourceblock and HC s5, plus the Diversity CTM maps and Ruins of the Mindcrackers maybe? And Mindcrack Prank Wars for the chaos and the origin of Team Canada. And if you can handle horror than the Forest is fun and if you don't do horror you can watch the Pojkband play golf or prop hunt they're hilarious I love them sm I want a Pojkband reunion So Bad 
Beef's first series was a singleplayer series in beta 1.4_01 though he had played the game extensively before that, and was a big fan of Guude, having watched his own Minecraft videos. The series was functionally a hardcore one where if he died Beef would delete the world and start again! I haven't actually Watched this series so idk if he died or how often lmao. When Guude made Mindcrack, which was btw one of the very first Minecraft SMPs, he also hosted a competition for people to join, and Beef submitted a video (which is still viewable on his channel I believe!) and won, and was added to Mindcrack in season 2 :D (fun fact, Guude said that even if Beef hadn’t won he would have added him anyway) 
Two running jokes emerged from Mindcrack- pulling a Vintagebeef and Beef doesn't have legs. The first is a reference to Beef dying of fall damage (I believe the exact instance was him trying to jump into his swimming pool and failing spectacularly) and after the incident, every time someone died of fall damage they were pulling a Vintagebeef. The second joke comes from Guude, who joked that the reason Beef wasn't going to a convention was because he didn't have legs, and then he pranked Beef's base by building a giant pair of legs at the entrance to his castle so you had to walk between them to get into the base. This joke has long since died and both Beef and Guude feel pretty bad about it iirc because there were people who genuinely thought Beef was disabled and were emailing him supportive messages and stuff oops. So if you go looking on the Salad or find old Mindcrack fics, you might see references to Beef having prosthetic legs!
Mindcrack also brought about the creation of several Player groups- Team Nancy Drew, Team Canada, and GOB to name a few relevant to Beef. Team Nancy Drew consists of Beef, Pauseunpause, Guude, and Baj, who formed to investigate a prank on one of the members but I forget who. They're named Nancy Drew after the detective! Team Canada also formed in retaliation to pranks, with it consisting of Beef, Etho, and Pause, the three Canadian members on the server (not including Adlington who moved to Canada but never joined the group). There was also a Team America who pranked them with American flags everywhere. GOB is Guude, OMGChad, and Beef, who played stuff like the Ragecraft, Pantheon, and Monstrosity ctms together but that's way down the line lol
Team Nancy Drew is also notable for inventing UHC. It was Beef's brainchild but it was the four of them who first played it! The first UHC had the four of them working to kill the dragon with no natural regen, with everyone dying but Beef, who "won" the UHC. The second uhc was still dragon focused and iirc is where Beef married the dragon? Memories are hazy but they do kill the dragon in this one I think. UHC was then revamped as a pvp event and became a regular Mindcrack game every few months, featuring most of the Mindcrackers and several special guests, including Dinnerbone, who as we know Thanos-snapped Doc's arm out of existence as a result of Doc killing him in one of them
In one of the seasons of Mindcrack, Beef invited swedish Mindcracker and good friend Anderzel to go caving with him and invented ABBA Rules caving, where the winner takes it all. ABBA Rules is a game where each ore (and also dungeon loot like nametags) is assigned a point value and the person with the most points at the end wins and gets to keep all the stuff collected from the game.
In Mindcrack season 3?, Beef punched the ender dragon in an... awkward area, so when the dragon died and left the egg behind, Guude said Beef was the father of the egg XD I don't remember if I watched s3 so I have no idea if anything Happened with this concept but *history of the world voice* you could make lore out of this!
So Team Canada has played a Lot of CTM maps (which fun fact were pretty much invented by another Mindcrack member, Vechs, with his Super Hostile series! Super Hostile has a bunch of things called "Zistonian", which are references to another Mindcrack member Zisteau, who has a very wild singleplayer series with even wilder lore but I digress). In Ruins of the Mindcrackers, they had a running joke that Beef was Etho and Pause's mom, which is a joke we can leave in the past actually /lh. They also played all the Diversity maps, Sky Factory, Terra Restore, Uncharted Territory uhhh and a couple more ctms and adventure maps! Each map kinda has its own story so in Diversity 3 for example they were trapped in a simulation? I think? Team Canada also recently played the Roguelike Adventures and Dungeons modpack, aka RAD, in which Beef was a wizard with a magic staff that could do anything from summon lightning to control hostile mobs.
Sourceblock SMP is a vanilla survival 1.14 series that ran for one season and the series starts with each of the Players being drawn to a strange sparkling water source that, once they touch it, brings them to the Sourceblock world. It also summons a giant zombie at one point. There's probably more lore for this series but like I said I haven't watched it all the way through yet 
He has a Patreon server called VintageCraft and has done a series or two on there as well, and played a few UHCs with them, so lore that how you will! 
Beef also played a few popular mods, notably Pixelmon, Life in the Woods, and Feed the Beast, with LitW being singleplayer and the other multiplayer. He's also recently played the Zoo and Wild Animals mod a lot. He did a short series with the Minecraft Comes Alive mod where he married one of the villagers and had two children, so that's canon now :D he’s played a Lot of Pixelmon starting when the mod first came out iirc (he chose Turtwig in his first series and built a Grass gym, then made a Normal gym in another series in uhh 2016) and he still plays to this day. Quite a few Hermits played on his Pixelmon servers with him, like Wels, Etho, Iskall, Stress, Slip, Zueljin, and also Guude and Phedran (a Mindcrack adjacent player and creator of the LitW modpack) and a few Mindcrackers on the older servers 
Mindcrack and friends played a lot of other games too- 7 Days to Die, Ark Survival Evolved, Unturned, to name a few, so you can pull a lot of lore out of these as well. Speaking of friends and non-Minecraft games, Beef teamed up with Pause, Keralis, and Slip (a former Hermit) to play the horror game the Forest, which saw them stuck on an island trying to survive against terrifying mutated human... things. They played it a few times as the game updated but as afaik it's the first time Beef played with Keralis and possibly Slip and since the game starts with the Player's airplane crashing, that could totally be how Beef first met them in-universe 
I... think? that’s everything I mentioned in the tags? There is probably way more stuff I’ve forgotten that stems from inside jokes and things that happen within each series, but I hope that was a) helpful and b) at least somewhat comprehensible lmao 
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showf4lls · 2 years
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Hello! I was hoping to send a request in for a match up, please! And congrats on 200 followers !! 🫶🏼
Can I have a romantic match-up for cc! characters, please!
I go by Jynx, friends call me JJ or Jy, I also go by they/them pronouns! My sexuality is bisexual, and I am 20! Also a scorpio (?) idk if that’s important
My vibes are all over the place? I’m usually laidback and giggly, but i can change to quiet and sort of standoff-ish, in a way. People say I’m very sweet, friendly, but I have a bitch side that gets protective over close friends; hate to admit but i get extremely wrapped up/competitive when it comes to video games unless it’s unneeded. I curse a lot, though I’m trying to work on it, lowkey I’m a hothead (does it same much if i’m a sapnap/punz kinnie..?)
My loyalty belongs to people who earn it; I only trust those who earn it as well. I suppose I can be marked as cautious? I’m known to be more ambivert. I cant make decisions for the life of me (hello i’m agender bisexual switch, i don’t make decisions lmao)
Top three hobbies are art, writing, and exploring. My favorite movie is Jurassic Park (series), favorite video game rn is Valorant, favorite TV show is Arcane
Top 3 favorite songs;
Bedroom Floor by sneaky peaches and the Fuzz
Myron Lil Uzi Vent
likewise by ericdoa
My aesthetic/fashion sense are both a bit of mess, but imagine living in streamer merch and then magically wearing something really cute one day then back to tights/jeans and hoodies. Just I wear hoodies a lot but I can “clean up” from time to time :)
Group wise; dream team or just the SMP in a whole (minors not included obviously!)
I believe that’s all i can think of, and I hope to get a match! Again congrats on 200, that’s a huge milestone !! 🫶🏼
― vibe check! i match you with... sapnap !
cw + info! fluff, headcanons / no CWs
includes! cc!sapnap
notes! tbh i tried to match you up with dream but it just didn't work honestly lol. also, for anyone interested, feel free to check out the event here!
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– first off, zodiac shit: you're a scorpio and he's a pisces; both of those zodiac signs have correspondence with water, meaning that you guys understand each other. you're both emotional and passionate, which implies that you'll be able to understand each other's motivations and reasons behind taking certain courses of action or reacting in certain ways. essentially, you guys are similar enough to understand each other but different enough to have things still be interesting between the both of you
– absolutely doesn't mind that your vibes aren't super consistent. he's had a good bit of practice bitting with his friends, so he applies that and uses it to follow the way you're acting. doesn't mind it much either, just cares that you're comfortable and having a good time
– admires how protective you are of your friends, and reciprocates that in how protective he is of you. you guys are fiercely loyal to one another since you've both worked to show one another how trustworthy you are. he understands you being cautious when you're going into new friendships and agrees that it's a totally fair response to how weird people can be
– loves gaming with you; it's always a challenge. he doesn't have to worry about you letting him win to "be a good partner," or whatever excuse people use. not only is it fun to challenge himself while he games, but it's fun to bounce off of you with the banter
– y’all play valorant together, it’s cute. he likes buying you guys matching skins and paying for your battle pass every season - it makes him feel good about himself lmao (his love language is definitely gift giving). when people start flirting with you in valo lobbies (which happens more than you’d think) he lets you pull the boyfriend card before stepping in and causing a scene. you guys always have a good laugh about it later
– really likes your art! definitely asks if he can watch you draw, but totally respects your decision if you let him know that you’re not comfortable with that. would also probably bother you about drawing him sometime. uses the “paint me like one of your french girls” line to lighten things up
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nho-jungle · 3 years
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this is my addition to the hermitcraft propaganda. this is focused at dsmp fans bc i am one. 
hermitcraft is a long running smp that started in 2012. it runs in seasons, with each season lasting around a year, often just over. they are currently on season 8, and started fairly recently. 
the players on hermitcraft tend to change each season, but i have compiled a list of who i think you might enjoy, based off of your favourite dsmp member!
(feel free to add ur own suggestions too!)
IF YOU LIKE... TOMMYINNIT- 
MumboJumbo: have you got ADHD? do you love how tommyinnit says Things and other people get confused? well then MumboJumbo is the hermit for you! he's absolutely absurd. a spoon. he's also over 6ft tall and built like a brick shit house. insane. this man is an enigma. he's also a cinematographer. who even is this guy. (he also does cool redstone builds and always sounds surprised when they work even tho he's been doing this since 2012.)
BdoubleO100: a rabid chihuahua in the body of a human. truly follows that feral energy that makes up tommyinnit. mans built an entire mountain last season and he's doing it again! crazy! he's also the king of sleep. night is a rare phenomenon on hermitcraft, since bdubs starts clicking his bed at the barest hint of sunset. gotta shweep!
Grian: the stereotypical pick. he's the prankster man, everyone seems to think he's pretty childish and he often has the younger brother role even though he's not the youngest on the server. has started/been majorly involved in two wars. had an alter ego called poultry man who would fly around dropping eggs and spawning chickens everywhere.
RANBOO-
Rendog: lore man lore man!!!! he has a bunch of fun and interesting characters and he puts a lot of thought into his episodes, from his builds to his mc skin, to make sure everything comes together perfectly. I don't watch his hermitcraft stuff but I've seen him via other hermit's povs and he rlly does pick a role and throw himself into it. it's amazing.
PHILZA-
EthosLab: do you like anime kinnies? do you like old gods of minecraft? well let me introduce you to ethoslab! i want to study him in a lab. he causes problems on purposes. he builds super random redstone things. he messes with noteblocks. he was head of shennanigans. his minecraft skin is kakashi hatake from naruto. there was a block named after him in the 2013 april fools update (the EthoSlab). who is this man. i think he also has the longest running minecraft lets play. what the heck.
Grian: bird man. good at flying. chaotic bitch. idk some of the vibes are there.
SAPNAP-
Tangotek: crazy redstone man. builds crazy minigames. idk there aren't actually many similarities here other than they're both often associated with fire in fanworks despite not actually having that much to do with it.
FUNDY-
EthosLab: aforementioned anime kinnie. crazy redstone. idk. Zedaph: in season 7 he built a cave of contraptions which contained these amazing redstone machines that found the most complicated and convoluted ways to perform regular tasks, just for the hell of it. what a guy! Iskall85: they're friends :3. that is all. (actually they both just have very similar Vibes. I have no other way to describe it. it's just Vibes).
SCHLATT-
Cubfan135: (specifically season 6). evil capitalist man (/lh). ran a big corporation with scar. they made profit from a war. idk i dont watch cub, thats all i could think of. GoodTimesWithScar: evil capitalist man with cub in season 6. in season 7 he got voted mayor and then started charging the shops to allow them to be accessed from the road. there was also a big "war" over mycelium. fun times. he's actually a very genuine and sweet guy. also his cat jellie is in the game bc he won a competition or smthin. idk man he loves his cat so much. you know what builds belong to scar bc there's just jelies everywhere.
TECHNOBLADE-
FalseSymmetry: okay listen the mcc teams are being announced as I'm typing this so my brain started thinkin mcc and basically they're both well known for being good at pvp. i dont watch false but i know she has a tumblr so i'd trust her with a knife.
Grian: thinkin mcc again. they teamed for mcc pride. you can go watch that if u want to get grians Vibes while still having a dsmp member present for some familiarity. idk.
NIHACHU-
GeminiTay: a lot of ppl say they like niki's streams bc of the comforting vibes and general chill atmosphere, and I think gem matches that pretty well. cy once said she sounds like fluttershy and tbh i sorta agree. shes an awesome builder and insanely smart and even though she's new this season im already incredibly attatched to her.
TUBBO-
Zedaph: aforementioned cave of contraptions rlly fits tubbo's vibe. i think he's going the mad scientist route this season too. Docm77: another mad scientist. already early on he made this super weird lighting farm thing? i dont even know but i've seen the clip and its MAD. even if you dont watch hermitcraft you should check out that individual clip.
FOOLISH-
literally any of them bc i genuinely belive wholeheartedly that foolish would fit perfectly on hermitcraft if he could manage not to swear. (altho maybe cub bc last season he build a giant pyramid.)
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tay6119 · 3 years
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Beach Episode BEACH EPISODE
ALRIGHT, it is time.
Finally off work and I have my snacks and way too much energy so here’s your tales of the SMP recap even thought I’m probably the last person to watch it at this point.
I hope it’s better than the last one :,)
I’m sorry this is so so long, I couldn’t help myself...
- Just wanna start by saying Karl is a real one for putting these together and putting in so much work. Great way to include less lore affiliated people
- I LOVE THEIR SKINS THEY’RE REALLY CUTE ESPECIALLY BBH
- Sapnap’s skin went from cute to like lowkey hot
- d r e a m’s skin... at least he dressed up this time
- Gog being sad to get those pity points as usual /lh
- “we’re supposed to be having fun Dream leave me alone” “I am having fun”
- basically a manhunt, but it’s off brand
- KARL’S SKIN IS SO CUTE OMG
- “wHaT cOuLd iT PoSsIbLy mEaN” more great acting from Dream
- all of them saying woah at once was really cute to me idk why-
- Dream just wants to kill everyone, staying on brand for C!Dream
- treasure hunt treasure hunt treasure hunt
- Anti-Gogy propaganda
- Karl really thought they would all work together no questions asked
- These are always so chaotic but i love it sm, nice break from everything in regular lore
- “now that George is gone”
- “I always hate you Dream”
- “George and Dream stop fighting”
- Karl is trying so hard to continue the story but everyone is just-
- “from the top you’re going to make it drop” “why does that sound familiar” BBH PLEASE
- George and dream can’t leave each other alone oml
- “there’s a prize for people rping” “what if my character is a serial killer” DREAM PLEASE
- They all fell to their deaths trying to jump off the lighthouse and into the water
- “get maximum... air”
- GEORGE that’s a volleyball
- Ranboo just straight up being drowned out by everyone else :,)
- “Ranboo read it” KARL U READ MY MIND EVEN THO IM WATCHING THIS ACTOR THE FACT
- Ranboo getting into it and like lowkey doing a voice
- “dream we’re walking together” George sounds so whiny lmfao /lh
- SAPNAP’S PIRATE VOICE
- BAD’S PIRATE VOICE
- Manifesting a gogy pirate voice even tho it won’t happen
- Dream leaving the area halfway through bad leaving shows his speedrun genes
- Chat participation :00
- THE TWITCH PRIME PROMO
- “none, we get zero” DREAM PLEASE
- “Ranboo do you think they love you enough” “no” RANBOO HAD NO HESITATION
- “It says, Sapnap is a nimrod” GEORGE PLEASE
- ALSO GEORGE’S PIRATE VOICE LETS GOOOOO
- Ranboo coming in clutch
- “Why is Dream killing everyone” “I’m not killing everyone” yeah George, he’s just killing you
- My two favs George and Ranboo boating away together <33
- I braved chat and someone said “GO MEMORY BOY GO”
- Now every time George fake cries/goes all sad boi I can’t stop thinking about Dream saying he does it to get pity and it always works lmfao
- “log off if you’re not up for it” Dream, George, and Sapnap all leave guys dteam ship is canon now 
- Bad dies in lava “don’t worry I saved the book”
- George being all giggly and not paying attention while him and Dream fight ahh I’m soft
- Dream in a boat what will he do
- Dream is muted and didn’t realize
- George yells for Dream to come back to take him with ahhhhhh
- Sapnap screaming “arggggg”
- “did he fail rp??”
- “Oh my arggg”
- “me and dream, me and dream are gonna win”
- “Dream and George forever for a hundred years” GOG I CANT TAKE IT STOP
- Chat spamming DNF omg
- “Dream woke up and chose violence”
- Dream tries to kill George and then Sapnap hits him and Dream dies instead
- “ALL MY BOATS”
- KARL COVERED THE CHEST WITH SAND
- Sapnap and Ranboo duo is something we needed
- SAPNAP AND RANBOO HAVE ME SCREAMING THEYRE EVERYTHING
- “you know saying muffinhead really throws off the pirate vibe yee got going”
- Gogy gets all hype cause he find it and makes happy noises I LOVE HIM
- George is an attention whore /lh
- George becomes scottish
- “when we get back to the mainland we kill George” surprising not Dream, but BBH
- George has less of a sense of direction than I do,,, and that’s saying a lot
- Ranboo woke up and chose violence
- Dream why u so obsessed with Gog
- Sapnap and Ranboo continue to be iconic
- Dream stop speedrunning this is rp
- Audience chooses who wins lmfaooo if Ranboo doesn’t win I’ll be so upset, him or Sapnap, but RANBOO
- “it would be really funny if I won” SHUT UP DREAM
- SAPNAP CALLED RANBOO HIS PARTNER IN CRIME LET’S GOOOO
- george and dream using console to kill each other
- DREAM SOUNDS SO WHIPPED WHEN HE SAYS “George I’ll give you one more chance”
- George mimicking Dream ujhytgrfed
- THEY REALLY STOLE THE THING AS SOON AS KARL LEFT
- CORINNA GIFTED SUBS BRUH
- Dream you don’t have the right to be calling anyone a simp
- “how many subs for a whitelist” RANBOO PLEASE
- “you cannot stab my partner with yee fist”
- “I am duck beard”
- RANBOO WON WITH 73% LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
- “piggy mcpiggy foot” GEORGE PLEASE
- “everybody’s less violent now” yeah ok
- KARLNAP KISS
- RANBOO GETS 50 GIFTED SUBS WOOOOO, HE ALSO GETS THE SWORD WOOOOO it’s hella op lmao, 
- 20 subs for everyone there, i love u Karl u are blessed
- “he has the sword don’t kill him RUN”
- Ranboo is literally the best i love him T_T
- Ranboo gets banned LMFAO “reason: oof”
if you actually read that all... wow
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overview of my take on tommy and techno’s dynamic and shared history (mcm, skyblock, smpearth, and wherever we are now)
this is kind of a follow up to an ask that was like “techno and tommy’s dynamic was ‘retired war veteran develops strong sudden attachment to old war buddy’s son’” but then i was thinking about how apparently people are saying that phil isn’t tommy’s son—blood or found family—which i don’t know if i agree with, but that makes the dynamic even more puzzling. so now im taking a look at tommy and techno’s dynamic with no sbi family dynamic. just kid meets god and it goes about as well as you’d expect.
so they’ve canonized minecraft mondays and they’ve canonized hypixel (or at least skyblock) and they’ve canonized smpearth. so what does this mean
minecraft mondays doesn’t seem outwardly important to tommy and techno’s relationship, but if mcm is some sort of televised tournament (ala hunger games or total drama island) then its likely c!tommy watched this tournament and was a fan of c!techno as was true in real life. so tommy watches this tournament and looks up to the victor, the blood god, technoblade. fast forward to hypixel.
they canonized skyblock recently when tommy was like “techno, you know all i’ve ever wanted was to be called ur friend” (or something like that calm down techno stan. though this makes sense if tommy was a fan of mcm techno.) but that means their interactions there in hypixel hold some ground in canon too. so tommy isn't a complete stranger. they're not friends or allies or acquaintances but there's this kid who brings up memories of an island and potatoes and hero worship (and also scams).
so smpearth, most important to their dynamic. they’re not friends or allies or acquaintances here, they’re enemies. so how do we get from airstrikes to “hey this goat man is bullying us come help.” all the antarctic empire stuff in the dream smp means that this is canon. my found family heart says that somewhere between repeatedly destroying tommy in war, techno and phil were like “this is an annoying little shit but he’s our annoying little shit” but if we’re shooting for “absolutely no family dynamic, found family or otherwise” then it’s tommy as the little bug they can’t flick off. they part on decent terms i’ll say because tommy just wanted to piss off people and techno and phil don’t care enough to actually hate this little bug. (but canon can fall anywhere between found family and annoying bug)
more skyblock, tommy’s still kinda being a bug. but then there’s mcc. in mcc4 they are “abided by the law” (in tommy’s words) to work together. idk what this implies about scott smajor’s godly influence and powers, but they’re forced to team up. and here maybe their views of tommy change from little bug to at least someone with potential. “the dynamic duo” “best friends with tommyinnit” he’s tolerable and so maybe this and the added bonus of getting to thwart the government is why techno joins up with them in pogtopia. 
but a lot of tommy and techno’s irl dynamic bleeds into their pogtopia dynamic because they are much more friendly then they should be “i’ve missed speaking to you big man” “the horse brothers” “TOMMYY :D” by any canon accounts. so let’s say that they do bond in pogtopia. there’s no business bay or antarctic empire to keep them apart here. now, they’re on the same side. my found family heart says that techno likes this kid. my found family heart says that tommy is thrilled to get to spend time with the blade when nobody’s dogs are being threatened. but it can be said that it’s just tommy’s extroverted, golden retriever energy and techno just kind of along for the ride. so they’re still not friends.
and then shit goes down at the festival. and they’re very much Not Friends. tommy feels betrayed. techno did what he did. but they’re companionable enough by the day before the grand finale to do the pet war finale. shit goes down on the 16th grand finale. tommy feels betrayed. techno feels betrayed. they’re Very Much Not Friends. tommy stays in l’manburg. techno fucks off to retire.
exile and shit goes down. techno comes to mock him because he’s his big brother an asshole (/lh) like that. we get fun moments such as “i’ve just remembered i don’t like you” techno shows off his new clothes, the color of the empire tommy used to go to war with, and thats that. but tommy—in either a hallucination or accidental visit or a fever dream (did they retcon the retcon idk) sees techno’s house and is all like “friend. wait no fuck him. but friend” and i love that for them. and so thats the summary of their relationship until tommy says fuck this fuck dream fuck logs (no wait someone on this server might) and decides to live in techno’s basement. 
i’m just gonna leave it here because this is so long and incomprehensible maybe i’ll do more but what was i even talking about?
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childishfluff · 3 years
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(im gonna be sending a few seperate asks since theyre seperate thoughts/ideas, sorry for any sort of inbox spam!!) ur pet regressor tommy fic led me into a whole wormhole of many different ideas.. esp abt who else is a pet regressor!!
- wilbur (cat regressor!! also very relaxed, he *will* just sleep on phil or techno's lap for hours on end. mostly nonverbal, but will meow every now nd again. mostly communicates through actions. he can purr. doesn't drop often, but when he does, it's due to extreme stress- meaning he can be pretty sensitive while he's in catspace.)
- tubbo (puppy regressor, but definitely more of a relaxed dog aside from the amnt he communicates, especially through barking, whimpering, and soft "awooo!!"'s. loves snuggles. sometimes, he's scared to come of as annoying, so he's hesitant to slip into pupspace, normally needing someone to help him along and tell him that it's ok for him to be a puppy, nd that he's a very very good boy.)
- karl (kitten regressor!!!! he's either really sleepy or really playful/energetic, and he has no in between on that. he meows.. so much.. all he kno is meow meow!! *very* sensitive while dropped, and as such, he needs a lot of validation and love. will get extremely upset with himself if he notices that anyone is even *slightly* mad/irritated by him.)
- nick (sapnap) (PUPPY REGRESSOR 100000%!!! he's very very loud and extremely playful!!! he can be entertained for *hours* w literally anything, especially toys like chew bones. doesn't really drop too often, but when he does, he drops very very far. something that can trigger his drops is when people compare his traits/actions to those of a dog because he just goes yes!! yes me!!!! dog!!! me!!!! also he loves karl *so* much because karl absolutely spoils him rotten when he's in pupspace.)
- ranboo (kitty regressor!! similar to karl, he can be really sensitive while he's dropped. entirely nonverbal, opting for actions instead. he's a mix of both playful and sleepy. when he sleeps, he curls his entire body up into a circle nd kneads at whatever he's sleeping on until he falls asleep.)
- dream (cat regressor!! sleeps a lot when he's dropped, hes just vv tired. mimics patches, and loves to follow her around/act like she does. even bases his catgear around patches, with tabby-colored cat ears and an outfit based off of similar colors. drops very easily, mostly voluntarily.)
those r the ones i can think of now.. id love to know ypur opinions/interpretations of them!! -🌻
OKAY I’M GONNA GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE, AND SHARE MY THOUGHTS+OTHER POSSIBLE HCS/FIC SCENARIOS, SO LONG POST WARNING Y’ALL
1. Cat Regressor! Wilbur
yes yes yes, I wouldn’t of thought of it myself but the idea is absolutely adorable! I’d totally write that, with like handler/cg!niki in addition to those you listed. And the idea of him using it for stress and therefore being sensitive in catspace? like, that’s amazing. 
I could imagine a fic where someone pushes him to regress for fun for once, but he feels like it’s stupid to purposely act like a cat when he doesn’t need it? They don’t pressure him, or anything, but he ends up slipping because he feels safe. and he realizes not only does it help with stress, but it just makes him more happy!
also imagine him slipping around tommy for whatever reason, and just wanting to sleep while Tommy’s trying to do something fun. So he’s dragging around a sleepy kitten and waking him up every two seconds, and it’s really soft and adorable and ends up with Wilbur sleeping somewhat on Tommy so that he can’t get up and he’s like ‘you’re so lucky I love you, dude.’ awww I need to write a fic- no promises but y’know
2.Puppy Regressor!Tubbo
someone actually requested a puppy regressors!tubbo and tommy fic that I’m having trouble writing, like it sounds cute but it’s kinda hard bc I’ve never written puppyspace before. I actually decided to start over but I’ma keep trying on that. 
anyways, imagine like, Ranboo or Tommy helping him slip over a discord call! Needing help to regress is something that I understand (I age regress, but I haven’t in a while due to this issue), so I could probably write Tubbo in that position well. Needing to be coaxed and told that it’s okay to be a cute lil puppy, like that’s adorable! 
3. Kitten Regressor!Karl
tbh I tried to write kitten!karl but I was half asleep and gave up, I need to get back to that hjsiksja. Like I specialize in writing sensitive regressors w/anxiety over someone being mad at them, so I could definitely pull this off. 
and the idea of him being a talkative kitty is sooo cute! Like I can imagine something along the lines of this conversation between him and a handler/cg:
“What do you want?”
“Meowww”
“I don’t know what that means!”
“Meow?” (little head tilt and innocent cute eyes)
“Do you want cuddles?”
*excited meows! and he goes and cuddles up in their lap bc yay, they understood him!*
and imagine kitten!karl playing w/Quackity! very very adorable concept
4. Puppy Regressor! Sapnap
okay okay so I don’t watch sapnap really but this is still adorable! Like the whole ‘me, puppy? yes.’ thing is soooo cute! Imagine George or Dream just forgetting that’s a trigger and making a joke about how one of his mannerisms reminds them of a puppy and suddenly! There’s a puppy to take care of!
and karl spoiling him sounds like something he’d do hjsiksjsa. I can’t really add much on here bc idk much about him/his content past the smp but this is so cute! Maybe I’ll watch a few of his videos and attempt writing him bc I keep getting requests for him
5. Kitten Regressor! Ranboo
yes, I was already thinking about this tbh! Like I’ve written him as a little and it’s kinda similar, he’s sensitive, and he’s less verbal the littler he gets. As a kitten, I can easily picture him just being quiet. 
I imagine that he’s really pouty because of this, because he doesn’t know how to communicate otherwise, so this might confuse anyone who may take care of him. 
“Why are you pouting? Do you want cuddles? Food? Do you wanna play?” 
and he just doesn’t reply bc he’s a kitten and he can’t talk so it’s an endless cycle of guess and check until they reach the right answer, and it’s really funny to watch. I can also imagine that he giggles a lot. Like he’s not verbal or anything, and he doesn’t giggle a lot but sometimes it happens! and if you make him giggle while in kittenspace then you did something right!
it makes everyone happy when he giggles and it’s really soft and cute! I definitely think I’ll write a fic with kitten!ranboo in it, at some point eventually, I think! 
6. Cat Regressor! Dream
awwwww- I didn’t even consider the possibility of this but awwww. Imagine Wilbur and Dream in catspace together, just sleeping and cuddling while basically all the other kittens are playing and being hyper. And everyone’s trying to get them to play but they’re sleepy! (ofc they end up playing anyways bc their friends are adorable and convincing but y’know)
and I really like the idea of him mimicking patches! I’ve seen a few pet regresors say that they mimick/copy their pets so it kinda feels realistic and likely! and plus, it’s really cute. 
and since his regression is voluntary, I can imagine him like one minute, just chillin w/george and sapnap and going ‘what if- what if I just went *cat mode*’ and he tries to hint to his friends that he wants to slip but they’re not getting it so it’s kinda frustrating for him but funny for the readers to see play out bc George and Sapnap are being completely oblivious to everything. Hjsiksja that’d be funny
Thank you for sending this it, like seriously! It was really fun to go through and talk about these, I might make additional headcannon lists once I’m actually awake tomorrow bc I shouldn’t be up rn but yeah, I just wanted to go through and respond to this! <3
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and now: dreamsmp, as explained by a yogs/hermitcraft fan who only watches tales
note - i’m a yogs fan so all of this is, as the kids say, “c![name]” unless stated otherwise
general
these white men can have so many fucking wars
do any of them even... like each other? like. nobody fills in creeper holes, they’re constantly stealing from each other and griefing shit and half the time there’s not even plot reasons behind it
y’all don’t have access to the end? like at all? i mean i GET maybe if it was modded and people had access to, like, backpacks, but it’s vanilla
“dream thinks smps die when they get to the end” dream is wrong, a coward, and a baby boy man
no shopping district? no ECONOMY? this part is fucking BAFFLING to me hello i do nothing but strip mine while listen to podcasts, i could buy and sell these idiots in diamonds. i feel like you could just say “we’re using prismarine blocks for currency now” and everyone would go fucking off it
i’m. i’m still stuck on the fact that there’s NO ECONOMY. like NONE. what the fuck. how do y’all live like this.
IT’S NOT EVEN MODDED i cannot grasp this. how is nonmodded vanilla minecraft with NO sense of honor between everyone else fun for anyone?
if you’re gonna run an anarchy server you should at least put icbm in your mod pack so people can explode each other properly
y’all have to use withers? you don’t have antimatter? w
i’m surprised people don’t get the places they logged out deathtrapped, this might as well be demise
all songs are acoustic sadboy or indiepop. i’d say “please write a diss track” but i don’t... think i want to hear that
i know “my lmanburg” is plot important but i don’t listen to ANY dsmp music by choice so i can only imagine it to the tune of my sharona
plot/characters
three lives system except it’s retroactive and makes literally no sense
there’s three immortals -- the server admin, who’s a horrible green-screen fresno nightcrawler (and is also canonically abusive? what? why would you canonize this?), a bird dude who does hardcore sometimes also, and sonic the hedgehog
i’m rooting for sonic
two children. actually a lot more than two children but there’s two very important children.
tubbo is one of the important children. he has infinity dads and i think he’s related to sips because their last names are both “underscore”. other dads include captain sparklez and maybe schlatt and probably some others too
he can make armor out of radio waves. nobody talks about this
tommy is the other important child. he’s simultaneously an uwu baby boy and also a little shit gremlin
schlatt. he’s sips but more
he’s glatt (ghost schlatt) now. which i know because he was in tales and constantly shouting GLATT
the first season was written by (irl) wilbur soot and it was apparently just hamilton? i don’t like hamilton.
IRL - he also supposedly forgot to tell schlatt his character was dying. again do these people talk to each other at all? like are they friends?
lemon microburger started out as a british drug cartel and has since been exploded like, idk, five times. i forget vanilla players have to explode things on purpose because [antimatter wind-up noise]
karl jacobs exists. he’s a time traveler. he’s very cool
charlie slimesicle pulled a nanosounds and launched himself into orbit and hasn’t come back down since
me too, buddy
foolish! he’s like, a demigod slash Totem Of (Un)Dying. he actually knows how to build! he seems neat!
...unfortunately he looks like Bench Appearo (i’m sorry)
THERE’S AN EGG hi as an old redstoner/flux buddies fan i FULLY fucking approve of egg. i love weird minecraft corruption plotlines i think we should have more of them
egg will make the plot good. join egg
there was some sort of war involving pet murder and also a railway system? might as well be happening
other stuff
fandom has one hobby and it’s discourse about who’s justified in doing what, which is baffling to me
back in my day we pointed at the unethical clone scientist whose name was a pun on hannibal lector and who did SO MUCH MURDER and went “oh he did nothing wrong whatsoever”
everyone has done war crimes but none of the fun war crimes
so does nobody do like. psychological warfare? not abuse -- like, leaving 50 signs leading to different coordinates on a wild goose chase that ends with “made you look” or tricking someone into digging their own grave
have some PANACHE! march up to the egg and leave the entire This Is Not A Place Of Honor text on signs! mix it up!
apparently people don’t like it when the production values are good, because if it’s too well-made then it’s not dreamsmp anymore? baffling if true. let people minecraft roleplay! high production values mean better plot!
something about discs i guess
okay that’s all, if i missed anything i’m supposed to talk about just tell me when you reblog the post and i’ll explain what i know
also i still can’t believe you guys don’t have even, like, a barter economy
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So this stream I got a bit confused with what was going on with the whole spiel with schlatt and dream, and I dont actually think theres a traitor. However if there was one why not niki ya know? I mean, he kept saying how it would be way more unexpected than eret in the independance war, and literally everyone so far has been thought of as a potential traitor to pogtopia,, except well,, why not niki? She also had this letter to her "dear friend" that sounded like a new turn for her character and idk man why not?
Alright I’m a very texting type of person and you’ve got my started on my hyperfixation here we go-
My thoughts on the whole situation and why I think Fundy is the traitor:
I think from Dream’s perspective: Everything makes sense. I’m HIGHLY certain that Schlatt’s deal, which Dream said is “Something Wilbur and Tommy would never give him”, was that L’Manburg will either cease to exist (become part of the Dream SMP, and we know neither Wilbur not Tommy would ever do that), or that Dream would essentially become leader of it.
That’s why, in this flip situation, if he wins, he wins all of it. This also makes sense, as Dream is 100% alright with Wilbur just blowing it up, too: Because essentially he achieves the very same thing: L’Maburg/Manburg is no more.
Dream is absolutely right that he was never on their side or really on anybody’s side. Dream is his own side. It’s his server. He IS the Dream SMP, in that sense, just like Tommy is the spearhead of the rebellion right now.
I’m also fairly certain Dream will pull a lot more people than they think into this, and I think they ALSO know, in a meta-way, that they won’t be fighting only Schlatt and Dream and one traitor. He’s just letting them wallow in their security, although I have to say he LOVES dipping in his dramatic implications about what he’s doing or will do. In this case, he might’ve managed to keep quiet to let them think they’re safe.
So for Dream: Either they win, and L’Manburg is his/no more, or Wilbur sees they start losing, and L’Manburg is also no more. Honestly? He just has to make Wilbur panic hard enough to hit that button... and then he wins. It would be bad if he loses, though, so I do think he’ll pull together for this. He’s very competitive.
(Lot more juicy theory as to who the traitor is under the cut)
I predict that a good portion of BadboyHalo, Georgenotfound, Sapnap, Punz, potentially also people like Thunder or Alyssa?, are going to join Dream’s side. Sam seems close to the rebellion, but he’s also friends with George and Sapnap, but I just can’t see those two seriously fighting against Dream. If the stakes really are high, they’ll flip over to him, although I also can’t see them convincing Sam.
Most likely, George and Sapnap are just going to stay out of it entirely, and let Sam fight on the side of the rebellion. Maybe the current pet war might change that, though, say if Sapnap develops a new hatred against Tommy or even Sam? (I dont know what the pet war’s at atm but didn’t Sapnap and Sam fight over pets?), he would join in on Dream’s side. George? I have no idea. Most likely he just won’t be there. He doesn’t want to go against Sam (Who provides him with like. Everything), but he also doesn’t wanna fight Dream. IF he fights, though, I’m tempted to say he’d be on Dream’s side, but I’m honestly not up to date enough on his streams to say for certain.
As for the traitor: I actually haven’t seen Niki’s letter (to my great regret, I saw the news float around though), since I’m very focused on watching Tommy and Wilbur’s POVs. Honestly, if it’s Niki? That would be MASSIVELY surprising, and the biggest brain move I’ve ever seen. It’s possible, but I honestly don’t think it’s likely.
They’ve kept their characters fairly consistent, and while this IS kindof meta to say, I don’t think (with how things are atm), that Niki would betray L’Manburg, UNLESS she’s doing a double-agent thing and plans on tricking Dream in the end. That I could potentially see happening.
But knowing that she changed the anthem from Wilbur’s posessive “My L’Manburg” to just “L’Manburg”, that she’s been loyal even when they kinda half left her alone with Schlatt to tax her, and even during the pet wars she never strikes blood, but rather takes hostages and wants a sincere apology... I don’t see it right now. Then again, I don’t watch Niki’s streams on the SMP, so I could be wrong, as I’m not quite familiar with the intricacies of her character on the SMP besides the surface level.
On on hand... I also doubt whether there is a traitor at all, and Dream is just hoping to drive them apart and make sure they don’t get things done as efficiently as they could, because they’re busy pointing fingers at eachother, suspecting eachother, potentially even throwing somebody out once the tension between them snaps.
He needs to win this fight. If he does, he gets EVERYTHING. What they think of him after that point doesn’t matter, so the lie doesn’t matter. They can laugh at him afterwards, but he’ll still have won. I don’t know how many actually highly important details Dream would drop into conversation like that.
Consider, he does have a traitor. Why would he tell them he has one there? Why tell them that they’ll never guess? It just sows chaos in their group, and that’s what he wants. If he DID have one, he might just not say anything.
On the other hand: He might just be dramatic like that honestly. We all know they’re meta-fighting for the next spot in a sad-ist animatic, so Dream could very well be taking a more active role to insert himself into the story and cause some drama. Even if he DOES have a traitor on the inside, saying it still sows chaos. It’s a little risky, but if it really is something they won’t guess, then the chance that they’ll suspect the wrong person might be high enough, and make it worth it.
If he DOES actually have a traitor, my top sus are honestly Fundy, Tubbo, and maybe Ponk. I’m very sure it’s NOT Wilbur, Tommy, Sam, or Quackity.
Ponk doesn’t seem like the type of person to be reliable enough. He’s just kinda in it for the ride, and he’s too quiet to set a focus on. I don’t think Dream even considered him on the side of the rebellion for certain until today. It is, however, still possible. Tommy seems to trust him, and he’s not in deep enough for them to intently interrogate him on his loyalty, cause they know he’s more laid back when it comes to that. He feels only half in the rp to begin with, just wanting to fuck around with everyone. And then, BOOM, he’s actually been playing a massive role this whole time. It’s a little bit of a safe target, too, albeit a little underwhelming.
Tubbo... listen. We all love Tubbo. Tommy loves Tubbo, and we know Tubbo cares greatly for Tommy. Tubbo also seems(?) to care for L’Manburg. But I just....
It’s Tubbo, man. I have no idea. He seemed SO close to ACTUALLY flipping over to Schlatt before the festival. Everyone keeps pushing him around like this innocent tiny kid when he has the biggest third eye out of everyone and is the only one actually doing any work.
Tubbo has stated before that his official motivation is that he just wants peace for everyone. He just doesn’t want to fight and wants to do fun stuff. So of course he sounds horrified at the prospect of having to hunt down Tommy after Tommy was exiled, but happily went along with the festival. He was excited to do his speech. Schlatt actually placed responsability on them for once. He truly did seem happy about that.
It doesn’t matter as much to Tubbo who’s who. What matters is that the fighting preferrably stops, and they all just have a good time. Dream gave the line “I’m very convincing”, so I think he did actually have to convince the traitor, if there is one, to join his side. It wasn’t automatic.
Technically speaking, if L’Manburg is no more, and they’re all part of the Dream SMP again, doesn’t the fighting stop? If there’s no nation to fight over, then there’s no reason to fight. If L’Manburg is no more, then Schlatt has 0 power, and if Dream takes over, he could’ve promised to un-exile Tommy and Wilbur. And then they’re all part of the Dream SMP! No more fighting! Everyone’s on the same side!
Tubbo seems to care less for nations or sides, and much more for people, and for the people around them to be happy. His switch to enthusiasm at Schlatt’s festival came quickly, because many of the people he cared about still partook in it, and he never did hurt Tommy, because he does care about him.
But Tubbo DID say the line “may the festival begin” after his speech, and they knew what that would start. So why? In a way, I think Tubbo waged his options. Who does he care about more? Tommy, to his knowledge, is on Wilbur’s side. He might’ve decided in a moment of uncertainty that Wilbur and Tommy’s opinions of him are more important to them than the opinions of the other people there. Mostly Tommy, because we know those two would die for eachother. They chose Tommy over everyone else at that festival, potentially even over their own motivations, over their own gut.
Fundy, in fact, has MANY reasons to be the traitor, but isn’t quite obvious in that sense. They thought he was a traitor, actually, but once he showed them his diary, he essentially convinced all of them very certainly that he’s not the traitor, and they believed him. Dream joined the call later, so it’s possible he heard that part or Fundy told him about it (They’ve all been known to listen in on convos sometimes to know whats going in. They have to in order to build a good story line.)
Fundy has all the reasons. Reason number one, to me, is Fundywastaken. It’s canon in the Dream SMP lore, they just surprisingly haven’t done anything with it. During the independance war, that wasn’t a thing yet, and since they ARE a thing in canon now... they’ve never actually fought eachother. In fact, as things are now? We’re EXPECTING to see Dream fight his canon fiancé. Fundy officially joined the fight when Tommy asked him, confirming that they can count on him and that he will fight. We know for certain that Dream will fight.
If Fundy isn’t the traitor and doesn’t become one, then Dream and Fundy are inevitably meeting in battle on the 16th.
Consider his storyline: We’ve all been highly expecting Fundy to either punch Wilbur in the face or at LEAST be dissapointed in him or SOMETHING. He hasn’t, as far as I’m aware. He’s just standing there near him, very very quietly, giving a firm but quiet “yes” when Tommy asked him if they could count on him.
Fundy hasn’t expressed much to Wilbur at all, despite heving been left alone with Schlatt by him, despite how much he deserves to be angry at him for being patronized and not trusted with anything.
And, y’know... He’s officially Dream’s fiancé. The others don’t seem to know yet, and I don’t know how many people do know or not. It’s possible they just don’t know, and of course Dream wouldn’t tell them anything, not even tell anyone, this close before a fight. Dream might not even tell his close allies out of fear that the information could spread or that they could turn on him.
So honestly... Fundy seems the most likely for me to be the traitor, especially because there’s been plenty of foreshadowing for it, there’s a good setup, he has good reasons, and it wouldn’t seem like a cheap plottwist, but rather a gradual change.
Not to mention that meta-wise, Fundy has been actively involved in the rp and been dropping some pretty good lines himself. This isn’t something that Dream would have some non-rping person do.
I’m also kindof sure it’s not Technoblade, because Dream laughed it off and half-indicated that it is (Tommy: “I bet it’s Technoblade” Dream, cracking up: “I didn’t say that, you said that”), because he profits from doing so. He profits from them thinking Technoblade is the traitor. And also I really, really don’t think Techno would team up with Dream in this rp. Then again, Dream recently proclaimed to be on the side of chaos.... so who truly knows? I’ll definitly be surprised if it’s Techno, but I suppose it is a possibility. I just don’t think Techno can be convinced to much of anything, unless of course all it took was saying “Hey it’s Schlatt and Me against like 6 people so if we want an actual fight for once-” “Finally some bloodshed and war. I’m in”. I mean, I doubt it, but I’m leaving the possibility open.
TLDR: Dream wins if he wins the fight OR if Wilbur blows everything up. The traitor is likely either Fundy, Ponk or Tubbo, and I think there will be more people fighting on Dream’s side than just Schlatt and one traitor.
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I love how you talk about dream srsly
so nice to see ppl from different corners of dsmpblr liking him :]
thank you so much anon i am smiling very wide rn :)))) he just means a lot to me and ive got a lot of feelings when it comes to dream so im glad you like how i talk abt him
(this gets a little ranty, just in terms of what dream stuff means to me so im gonna put a read more here)
I think its a little funny that i actually don’t end up talking about him as often as i do, but i think its just because my main focus is character lore and dsmp stuff. But if it wasn’t for that i’d absolutely be endlessly talking about and drawing dream team.
I found dream’s channel at the beginning of January 2020. All i would do would be watch new dream videos, and draw dream and george art during lunch of my senior year. I was a little embarassed at first and mostly kept it to myself. But i ended up posting the art i did on this tumblr, its some of the first dream and george art to my knowledge. I remember around that time there were around 3 or 4 dream artists, and nobody quite knew how to tag either so it was wacky. Before i left for a bit i remember the beginning of some big things that i wont name here but admittedly looking back on it is very funny.
When quarantine hit, i ended up finding and playing dangan, and that became my main thing for a couple of months. But i would always keep myself up to date on the dream videos, they still cheered me up and meant the world to me. During this time i figured out i had adhd, and it make a lot of things click. I still had lots of figuring out to do in that aspect, but for the time, it was alright.
I found dream smp when i started falling out of my dangan hyperfix, and while all of this was happening i found myself binging all of dreams content again, trying to catch up on anything i missed. When i was on my little content binge i learned dream also had adhd, along with technoblade. I can remember how happy it made me, especially with me figuring out the adhd symptoms i had no idea about. It made me so happy to see dream, someone who was outspoken in his adhd experience, succeed the way he was, and having fun with his friends. I began to realize that “oh i do that too!” and see little bits of my own adhd experience in the way he does things. It helped a lot, and i’ll always remember that.
around christmas i got a dream hoodie and 13 mil coin, i put the little sticker that came with it on my cintiq. Idk i just every time i think about dream he makes me smile and i’ll always admire him in certain aspects. He just is such a , i dont know how to describe it , sunshine person to get to watch.
This accidently got a bit ranty and personal but sometimes i just get this way where i just have lots of emotions i need to get out and i dont know how to do it. Aaa anyways, thank you again for the ask anon. I know you didnt ask for an essay but i just wanted to share how much appreciation i’ve got for the guy
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Brothers anon back again after like a week, sorry about that. But as a sorry I worked out a bit more with the Great SMP town! Also idk if you know but the Brothers au link is broken on your pinned post, I tried using it to skip to the questions I had yet to answer and it didn't work. 
1: The idols people could choose from where Technoblade, Sapnap, George, Ranboo, Bad, Fundy, Karl, Phil, Tommy, Tubbo, Sam, Wilbur, and Eret. People who choose Technoblade or Sam often become the guards of Mizu and those who keep laws inforced. The difference between following Technoblade or Sam is, for Technoblade you focus purely on fighting and less about laws, you also learn more about history. While for Sam you focus much more on laws and even restraining and helping people (If its confusing think of Sam followers as the police and Technoblade followers as SWAT). Technoblade followers are also sometimes called to provide protection during resource gathering missions. For Karl you tend to learn story tellings and study writings, Karl followers are also the main librarians and take care of books and preserve them. Sapnap and Phil followers are the people who go on supply missions or runs, though for Phil you learn how to address wounds and further study most things. While for Sapnap you further study monsters and their weaknesses, along side where they most commonly spawn. George followers tend to study architecture and tend to be the architectures of Mizu, designing new sections of the city and planning out where stuff goes, their also the people who handle stuff like ventilation and supply of water and checking damages on almost anything. Eret followers study history like many other idol followers, but unlike the others they focus solely on history and laws, they tend to be the leaders of Mizu and the ones who organize basically everything. Bad followers study and learn psychology and reward and consequences situations, while Eret followers make the decisions, Bad followers are also great helps and a very important part of what's basically The Council, as they study and guage how actions will affect the city and provide their input. Wilbur followers of course learn entertainment, like they learn how to play instruments, how to write and play in plays, some even make games! Tommy and Tubbo aren't actually common idols, their referred to as "Mix" idols most of the time, as the people who pick them typically have a wide range of skills and interests that just don't fit in any other idols. So Tommy and Tubbo followers really just go through a college type thing, where they learn a wider range of things than any other idol follower, those followers tend to pick up basically whatever job they want. Tubbo differs slightly though as Tubbo followers can focus a little bit more in a certain field than Tommy followers, which can allow Tubbo followers to often be picked or asked for help for things like building, or recording history, though they CANT be used to help Technoblade or Sam followers, and can't be chosen to go on supply runs or missions. Than Ranboo followers are similar to Karl's, in which they are the librarians and study writings, but they are also the main recorders of history and are tasked with writing down what happens every single day. 
These are the things some idols share, Technoblade, Phil, Sapnap, Sam, and Eret followers all study weapon and armour formations and how to make them. All idol followers learn at least some history of what their learning and their own idols. Bad and Phil followers tend to be the doctors in Mizu. And every idol has one representative in The Council.
2: Its how he shows that theres no hard feelings against the other person, and that he has already completely forgiven the other person. He continues to gently prank the other person until the person either also says that they forgave Grievous or that they show their comfortable around him again. Jackie and Cletus found the situation incredibly funny and laughed hard when it first happened. Watson just kinda watched it all play out with his amused father face but also was ready to step in if it seemed like Grievous went to far. 
3: Benjamin has a lot of life experience in stressful situations, which allows him to relay on pass experiences in a great multitude of situations. And he's just a very calm person. So he's able to just handle the situations better than anyone else. 
8: It was Jackie's birthday when Levi gave him alcohol, Jackie was tired and Levi gave him it, telling him it would keep him awake and make it easier to talk with everyone. Jackie did drink it and got a bit tispy before Watson figured out what happened and stole it away from Jackie, then going and hitting Levi. 
Almost everything from the SMP was lost due to time and weather, the buildings still remain, although crumbling and ruined and many things are missing from them, but a few things (like weapons, books (although heavily weather worn), discs) did survive and are somewhere in the world. The town in the Greater SMP does have 2 weapons, Orphan Obliterator, and Dreams Nightmare sword, and have the original copy of Ranboos memory book. People knew it was there at first, many visited and a few attempted to even preserve everything, but over time, other stuff happened. New kingdoms popped up, with quite a few claiming that the history of the SMP was just made up, a cleverly devised story and since at this time its been a decade or two since the SMP fell, and people just aren't as into it or studied the history as much, they believed them. So people stopped visiting, and everything fell into ruin. Only the town in the SMP grounds still believe and study the SMP, but their often called the idiots of the world for what they do. 
Jackie gets hurt after he jumps about and accidentally steps on a magma block, Charles gets distracted by worrying over Grievous after he got shot that he isn't paying attention and almost falls into a lava pool before Ran saves him, and Cletus gets to cocky and gets hit by a wither skeleton before Watson has to come in and save him. By the end everyone is whining and saying how they regret it as Ran tells them off for not following what he said and how he said they weren't ready. They find a bastion and fortress! They find the fortress first and Watson, Cletus, and Grievous go in to grab blaze rods after Watson basically freaks out about blaze rods and won't shut up about getting some for potions. And after Cletus gets hit by the skeleton they rush to a nearby bastion they saw to barter with the Piglins for the cure. But after they get it they stay behind and continue to trade as Watson teaches them about Piglins. 
10: I'm thinking of adding maybe mind control or hallucinations to the battle. With Ranbob being so close to Dream again, and even though he'd tried so hard to break Dreams control in him, Dream is still able to control Ranbob to some degree. Causing him to have hallucinations during battle of him killing his family again and Ran trying to kill him. While for Ran, Dream manipulates him, trying to get him to believe that this all is still Ranbobs fault, and how Ranbob doesnt care about him or anyone, and only cares for himself. Basically he's trying his last ditch attempt to separate the two so he can get his puppet back, and get rid of a annoying nat (in his opinion) in the process. 
13: A lot of people know of him being the General actually. But it only matters to people who actually fight in the Pit, as again its merely a fighting title. Not many people have been able to beat him, only 2 have actually been able to bet him and win whatever the prize was when they competed, but those people also choose to not take the general title. But they've said it was very hard to beat Jackie with his speed and him being able to do whatever he wants basically. Jackie, Ran, and Watson are all at some part on par, they share similar fighting moves and tatics which are obviously shared in battle. But other than a few shared tatics, their not considered on par at all. They do! The Corporal fights first, Sergeants go next, then the General. 
14: A few times Ranbob tried to break off from the group and head back to Mizu, but every time someone caught him, weither it be Charles or Cletus or even Jackie, and were able to bring him back home. Talking to him and talking him through the whisper episode, keeping him calm and in charge of his mind.
Nice to have you back, Brothers Anon! I tested the link, and it worked fine, so I think it might’ve been one time, but I went ahead and re-linked it, so I hope it works for you now.
1: Honestly sounds cool. I call studying Karl! With all the different builders, Mizu sounds like a beautiful place. What would you say some of it looks like? Any special areas? And also, the Council? What’s that? I assume they’re the leaders, but is that all they do? Do they make decisions over everything, or are they divided for certain areas, like farming and education? Does every idol have a representative, or are their multiple under one for the Council?
2: Aww. That’s actually kind of sweet. Grievous gently pranks people to show affection. I like that, anon, I really do.
3: What kind of situations?
8: Levi! You should be ashamed of yourself! Bad person, bad!
That’s really interesting, actually. Was there a reason people claimed it was just made up, or did it just happen? Also, do any of the gang realize Nightmare is Dream’s sword? Does Dream try to get one of them to bring it back?
And SMP town isn’t believed? Were they never in contact with Mizu?
Honestly, all those injuries were about what I expected. Charles was worrying over Grievous? Just general concern, or have they forged a friendship? How’s Ranbob faring with the whole ‘two of my idiots just about died’ thing? He strikes me as a worrier. 
Do they have fun, at least once it’s all over? What kind of potions do they up and brew? Do they just sit down and experiment with all their supplies for a bit, and see what happens? Does Ran commandeer it all?
10: Oof. That’s gonna hurt. If Dream has that power, why didn’t he use it before, to force to fishermen to give Ranbob back? Did they have some sort of protection against it? Does it only work for certain people? Also, if I may ask, why is Dream so vested in Ranbob? Surely he could get another puppet, eventually? Is there a particular reason, or is it more of a ‘I worked way too hard on this one to give it up now’ kind of thing? Is Ran the nat? If so, what’s his opinion of all the others? 
13: Huh. So Jackie’s pretty strong, then. In what way are they not considered on par? Is one considered stronger than the other? Faster? Is Jackie considered stronger than them aside from shared tactics, or is it the other way around? Also, can there only be one Corporal and two Sergeants, or is it simply because those were the only ones to catch Porkius’ eyes.
14: Oh, so this happened during the road trip? Jackie even got involved? How did the gladiators react to Ranbob trying to bolt for Mizu randomly? How far has Ranbob gotten? Was it ever far enough to seriously concern the fishermen? Does bringing him back ever get physical an evolve into a fight, or does he usually stay pretty docile during it?
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Because I hate you and want you to suffer: what's your Worst Case Scenario and why?
i have two different ones actually!
one is #doomposting but not actually something i would be incredibly torn up about: dream's been teasing a New server once the update comes out, with incentives to play on it, and the lore streams immediately before the new update being called "finale" makes me concerned. like i Know that there have been "finale" streams before but-- there's been a lore drought, most people are moving onto different projects, i can see them thinking it's a good idea to wrap up this server. tommy's working on a Retrospective Tribute! i am mostly worried about this one because (a) they have left waaaaaayyy too many plot threads hanging to tie them all up in a satisfying way in Like Two Days (b) on the flip side, if they don't have an ending planned, and dream starts a new server that they're all more excited about and play on more often... i'm worried about that too? idk.
the second is.... okay. this is going to be controversial so i'm putting it under a cut.
I don't want a c!dream redemption arc, but for totally different reasons than everyone else doesn't want a c!dream redemption arc. I think that it would work just fine from a narrative/character perspective, i don't think c!dream is ~fundamentally irredeemable~ whatever that means, and when I first caught up on the dream smp I was rooting for it... but over time i've gotten a better grasp on the format and the actors. if they want to keep the story going in a way that results in People Logging On, they're going to want to introduce conflict, because (a) that's what people log on for (b) even if people continue logging on only very infrequently, it's still easy for a single stream to advance the plot a Lot in a satisfying and cathartic way when there's major conflict happening, which is much less true of healing/redemption arcs, which by their nature tend to be spread out over time. ("c!dream redemption arc", to be clear, is not my worst case scenario; i would totally still watch the fuck out of a c!dream redemption arc! they might even surprise me--i'd be delighted if they did in fact stream often enough for it to be a satisfying one. c!dream getting a redemption arc is just a prerequisite for my worst case scenario. we'll get there. alternatively, if it causes a Slow Death Of The Server due to Nobody Logging On, refer back to my first worst case scenario.)
specifically, addressing elephant in the room, conflict is what cc!Tommy logs on for, and cc!Tommy has ooc confirmed that he wants to do lore again only Once Dream Is Out Of Prison. Tommy was active when there was war, he talks about how exile was fun to roleplay, every time he has more of a healing arc he gets less active. fighting and angsting is clearly what he enjoys! and... he wants to do lore once c!dream's out of prison. if c!Dream has a healing arc, what does this look like? best case would be “one more major tommy stream where he confronts c!dream and then he pivots towards vlogging”. worst case, it's a revenge arc for c!Tommy. this was even foreshadowed today, with Quackity and Slime talking about the cycle of revenge. c!Tommy's been clear in the past that he thinks c!Dream needs to die. i would... not be comfortable with this, as an arc.
and honestly, it is the only situation where i quit the fandom. i think it would be wildly uncomfortable for me to watch given that nobody has IC acknowledged that c!dream abused c!tommy in those words. i think the fandom under those circumstances would be vaguely hellish to be in; it would split the fandom even further than it's already split, and i don't think i would feel at all okay about the takes it would produce on either side but i don't think it would be possible to avoid them.
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to be clear, i don't think these are going to happen. i think the ccs are invested in their stories; too many people are still teasing lore In The Future(tm) for it to end in a few days. i think that c!dream is gonna pull some shit after the prison break because it's been hyped up a lot as starting lore for other people, which "staying in the arctic healing" wouldn't as much, and also because cc!dream seems to have a lot of fun doing an evil laugh and blowing things up; if he doesn't pull some shit and does have a healing arc, i trust that there are people involved in the writing team that will try to keep things fairly sensitive. but i don't think they're entirely impossible, either--they feel approximately as likely as my "best case scenario" for what I want to happen, lol--and i think about my worst case scenarios and "where is the point where i quit the fandom" a lot! and. yeah.
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So I went back and read through all your stuff about tftsmp, and honestly I agree with most of it. I feel like the main problem comes from the fact that Karl is just a different vibe than the main people who drive the dream smp plot line (idk if that’s the best way to describe)??? Like, he does Mr. Beast stuff on YouTube, which while very entertaining, is just a completely different skill set from livestream role playing. I’ve personally never understood why he wanted to be part of the plot (other than that’s what his friends do) because it just doesn’t seem like what he does otherwise? Like if he’s interested, then go for it! But don’t start running whole role play sessions when you can’t even do it in the main plot line.
I think its because it's fun, he sees fans having fun with the series, and his friends having fun setting up and then rping it, and wanting to have that fun too.
I think his skill set from being a part of mr. Beast might explain why he jumped from doing only scraps of lore, to these big questionably canon 1 stream contained stories instead of going into the main lore.
Now I dont watch a lot of mr. Beast, but the general set up of the videos seems to be "have idea, put lot of money into idea, do the idea", and we can see that that's pretty similar to how karl is running tftsmp? He has an idea for a story setting, and then he builds it while also paying people to help with the building and in the most recent tftsmp someone to help code, and then he does the stream.
But the issue is as you said anon, that's very different from how the dsmp works. Dsmp is collaborative storytelling, and while karl is getting input on his storyline(s) from dream and bbh, there's not the collaborative part with the friends he brings for these? Like the dsmp is usually written loosely and with the fact that one line can shift the entire plot in mind. Some lore streams are a bit more structured, like ranboos prison visit where they had a distinct experience they wanted to show the viewers, but there's still a lot of 'wiggle' room for improv.
So far on tftsmp, and this has improved a lot from beach ep -> mizu -> masq, karl has a very clear story he wants to tell, and a clear idea of how he wants to reach that point. There's no place for his friends to improvise their own twists, or change their characters end goal. (This is partially due to time restraints).
And this is why tftsmp just doesn't fit in as part of the dsmp in my eyes, its just a different type of storytelling from dsmp. but its still a part of the dsmp, it still has stuff that relates to the current storyline. Its somehow both a very isolated story, while also having significant lore implications that have a chance to impact the current story.
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