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marvelights625 · 4 months

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"And then you get these two together, and they're this couple that like never quite got there and they're still working things out. And I think it's just messy and emotionally true. And it's not quite neat and tidy. That's what I like about romance. It's never neat and tidy."

how is this even real??

they are not a messy romance, they are just messy.

like…?

sylvie walked away when loki was on the verge of tears, twice.

sylvie blamed him for the situation (conveniently).

sylvie gaslighted him into believing her opinion on his friends’ life and the tva, and tried to convince him of her fixations. she forced him to admit his feelings and then dismissed it by saying,

‘we’re both selfish’

she made it clear that she did not need loki and was perfectly content without him. not to mention how she conveniently refused to help him to fix her actions.

yes, it was her fault. the timelines colliding, dying, was her fault. yet no one felt the need to hold her accountable.

and when loki did call her out at the automat, the writers decided to let sylvie be the victim portraying

‘no she can’t trust because her life was tough so it’s okay if she believes she did nothing wrong and just aggressively insults everyone around her’

she’s not a badass, or a girlboss. she literally had to do nothing to kill hwr. he sat there, got it over with. walked right into his trap. she’s not determined, she’s vengeful. she killed minutemen, innocents, anyone who got in her way. she doesn’t want a throne, but like any other loki would, she would recklessly get what she wants.

and it angers me that she never got an arc to notice this. never got a reason to feel the need to become a better person. i’m not sexist (ik that’s something a sexist would say). i don’t hate sylvie because she’s a strong female character. but strength also comes with wisdom, maturity, humility, appropriate trust and so many more admirable qualities they never gave her. they gave her a knife and loud voice and they were like ‘there’s the superior loki variant!’.

and it doesn’t make me a hater to blame sylvie for how toxic sylki is. she is indeed the manipulative, aggressive, dismissive person. no excuse can fit in for treating loki the way she did. yes, she doesn’t want a relationship. but loki ain’t grabbing her and begging for her love, he just asked for help, and she didn’t even have the decency to respect him.

why is the crew glorifying this? why is anyone at all promoting this? why is she justified? while loki got years of mistakes, punishment and realisation, sylvie got a two minute backstory and miraculously became loki’s love interest in the span of one episode, and everything is just justified. there is no depth to her whatsoever. if this is what they reduce loki to a ‘clown’ for, then they should’ve done better.

i’m more of a ‘leave the saliva exchanging, enjoy the show person’ but for one of the first times, i was watching a show about a character i was attached to for years and this is it. i loved him throughout his journey, and i loved his arc, and i loved his friends, but him and sylvie just make me sick cuz like, they can’t even decide.

‘she’s a loki but also not a loki because she hates them. but the show is about loki so she has to be a variant of loki. but only a variant because people can’t call it incest/selfcest. season 2 is driven by their deeper relationship and is emotionally true, but the show is basically her having trust issues and disrespecting him, saying she doesn’t want him. and loki just being sick and tired of all the shit and in the end, doesn’t get a break. thank you’

#loki #loki series #anti sylvie #loki season 2 #anti sylki

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shiningshenanigans · 5 months

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When Sacrifice No Longer Feels Loving: Raw, Messy, Emotional Thoughts on Loki Season 2

It’s been a little over two weeks since the season 2 finale of Loki came out, and although it’s been pretty much all I’ve been able to think about lately, I haven’t really been able to put my thoughts into words. And I have a lot of thoughts. I need to get them out of my system, and I’ve tried to write them down on multiple occasions, but every time I do, they keep getting stuck on the way out.

So, I’ve decided to do something different. Rather than trying to analyze the series critically, I’m going to just start writing about how it made me feel, and see where it takes me. I’m not really sure what’s going on in my heart and mind as I reflect on this story, but I have a vague idea of the truth that it’s tapping into. Fair warning: these thoughts are going to get very Christian-y and preachy, so if the gospel is not your thing, I don’t know how much sense this post will make. But, if you’ve been having a similar experience with the season and care to read, I hope that you find some encouragement and truth in these messy, emotionally honest thoughts!

When I try to sum up how I feel about season 2 as a whole, the only word that really comes to mind is “upset.” I’m just upset about it. The morning after the finale aired, I woke up with a deep, hollow pit of sadness in my stomach. I broke down crying a couple of times over the next few days just thinking about certain scenes in episodes 5 and 6, and I couldn’t rewatch the finale for almost a week.

Is it weird to feel this kind of grief over something as simple as a TV show? Yeah, probably. But I think that’s kind of the point. I’d been looking forward to the release of this season for two years. Without getting too personal, I’ve recently been through one of the hardest years of my life. Just this year, I’ve gone to two funerals for people that I grew up with, been in a car crash, faced rejection in a relationship that I had grown emotionally attached to, and mourned with my community as we experienced one of the most tragic shootings in our country's history. The release of Loki season 2 had become a little bright spot in my 2023; something to look forward to in all the madness.

When the first season came out, I remember being overcome by how good it was. It was wacky, and sweet, and funny, and sad, and redemptive all at once. Even in its darkest moments, there seemed to be a thread of hope that ran through the series from beginning to end. Over the years it had become a comfort show, a beautiful piece of art that offered me encouragement when I needed a pick-me-up. Because if a comic book super villain with a long history of screwing his life up can change his ways, make new friends, fall in love, find meaningful work, stand up to his oppressors, and ultimately write his own destiny, then gosh darnit, so can I.

My roommate and I invited our friends over, every Thursday night for six weeks, to watch the new episodes as they premiered. Our watch parties started off full of excitement and anticipation. I even made key lime pie for us the first couple of times, which was a big hit. But as the weeks wore on, and the episodes started to spiral deeper into tragedy, our post-watch conversations became more full of questions and complaints than anything. When the credits rolled on the finale, we sat in an almost mournful silence, watching the screen, waiting with baited breath to see if there would be a post-credits scene. There wasn’t one. You could almost feel a sense of dread fall over the room. That’s it. That’s all they’re going to give us. That’s how they’ve decided to end the story.

I think the first words that were uttered when the Disney Plus screen finally popped up were, “I hate Marvel,” before we all began to voice how we felt.

I can honestly say this has been one of the weirdest, strongest emotional reactions to a piece of media that I’ve ever had. It’s genuinely felt like I’ve been going through the five stages of grief over this show, but the grief isn’t just stemming from the inherent sadness of the story. I’m also grieving the show itself; what it’s become, how it was handled by the people it was entrusted to, and the knowledge that there will likely not be another season to redeem it. I feel angry, unseen and unloved by the writers who set up everything over the course of six episodes to ensure that the finale was as heartbreaking as possible.

At the same time, however, I can’t say that I hated it. A part of me knows that the reason it’s affecting me so deeply is because it’s so well-made. Art doesn’t grip you this much unless it’s objectively good. There are legitimate critiques of the story/filmmaking that I could make and a lot of people already have. The temptation to scoff and say “Michael Waldron wouldn’t have done it this way” and turn all my excitement towards Secret Wars is very strong, but that just seems like misplacing my hope. Underneath all the sadness and the frustration, there’s also a layer of confusion. Am I supposed to be feeling this way? Is this what the writers of this show wanted me to feel all along? And if so, why? What are they trying to say through this story?

I don’t normally mind stories with tragic endings, so long as I can understand the purpose behind them. I remember feeling similarly unsettled when I finished the first season of Arcane, wondering what the point of it all was. But after a little bit of analysis and reflection, I could see how the tragedy was fitting; how the characters choices had led to the ending and the cautionary tale it was trying to tell me. Even in the tragedy, it was still good. I’ve also learned to love the grief that comes with watching a character make a heroic sacrifice for those he loves. I think of Tony Stark in Avengers: Endgame, Janner in The Wingfeather Saga, or Stoick in How To Train Your Dragon 2. All these deaths are heartbreaking and painful to watch, but there’s a certain beauty to them too, and you can feel the goodness and love in their sacrifices.

This one is different, though. Something about this one feels wrong. Something about this one feels deeply, inherently, not good. And analysis is only making it worse.

I’m having a really hard time seeing the beauty in the sacrifice that Loki makes at the end of season 2. This story wasn’t supposed to end in tragedy. It was supposed to be a reversal of tragedy. A second chance for a beloved character (one who has already sacrificed himself for love on multiple occasions) to finally receive some kind of reward instead of punishment.

To end the series the way the writers did feels almost like a stab in the back, a betrayal if you will, of all the hope and joy and restoration that the first season promised. I guess adopted children who are abandoned at birth really are destined to be alone forever, no matter how much love they have to give. I guess villains can’t find redemption, and even if they do, they will not escape eternal punishment for their sins. I guess quarrels between brothers (or lovers) can’t be resolved, and every relationship we cherish is doomed to fall apart eventually. I guess young women like me, who are strong and independent because we’ve had to be, are not worth pursuing, and we should be content with our middle-management jobs and casual friendships as if that is the peak of human existence. I guess we should embrace isolation and selfishness after all. I guess true love doesn’t really exist, and we should walk away from any semblance of it before it makes us bleed.

Bummer.

The night after we watched the finale, I drove a couple of my friends home. On the drive back, I could feel the sadness of the story aching in my gut. I thought specifically about Sylvie, and how unsatisfied I felt with where the story left her. I’ve always connected with her as a character, and I hated the way she had been sidelined throughout the season. Every week, I had tuned in hoping I would see some kind of reconciliation between her and Loki. I just wanted some kind assurance that she loved him back, that they would somehow end up together in the end. One kiss, one hug, just… one conversation, for heaven’s sake. One apology from either side. One confession of love. But six episodes and it never came. Their relationship wasn’t even addressed. It was reduced to subtext, as if it wasn’t the back bone that Michael Waldron built his original pitch off of back before 2021.

I thought about the way she shrugged and smiled when Mobius asked her what she was going to do next, and it just irked me. Why didn’t they tell us what her plans were? Why didn’t they give us some kind of clue? It seemed so obvious to me what she should do. She should make good use of her Tempad and go be with Loki. How could she just walk away, knowing everything he just sacrificed for her? Do people really think she could just… go back to her life after that, with so many things left unsaid between them? If she really does love him, how could she? How could she go through life, knowing that the truest love she’s ever experienced is lightyears away, always watching, always with her, but unable to be physically present with her in a mortal, tangible way? It sounded like such a sad, lonely fate and my heart broke for both Sylvie and Loki as I thought about it.

But then it dawned on me: wait a second… isn’t that what it’s like to be a Christian? Isn’t that the reality I’m living every day, as Christ’s bride? The weight of that realization was so heavy I almost had to pull over on the side of the road because I couldn’t breath. My savior loves me more than anything. He gave up everything for me, just like Loki did for Sylvie. I don’t even know how many rounds he went with the enemy on that cross, just to bargain for my soul. And what do I do about it? I shrug it off with a smile. I forget about it until it’s convenient. I go back to my job, my house, my car, my record store, as if every second of my life hasn’t been paid for by the blood, sweat, and tears of a God who just wants me to be ok. As if I could ever fool myself into believing a life without Him is enough for me.

As if I shouldn’t be fighting like hell to get back to Him. As if love so amazing, so divine, doesn’t demand my life, my soul, my all. Just so you know, I teared up again writing that last paragraph.

A lot of people have pointed out the parallels that can be made between Loki and Sylvie and Adam and Eve. The comparison really does work in a lot of ways. A perfect likeness, a counterpart created for a lonely man because “it is not good that the man should be alone” (Genesis 2:18). One flesh, two halves of a whole. Equals, balancing and complementing each other perfectly. A couple chosen by a higher power to rule the universe with authority. There’s something edenic about that scene where they snuggle in the grass under that blanket together: a man and a woman, wrapped up in a garden of green, completely unguarded and vulnerable with each other. The man promises the woman his protection, and the woman shyly offers him her trust and thanks in return.

When they make it to the Citadel at the End of Time, their parting echoes deeply of the fall. The serpent (He Who Remains) sows seeds of distrust between them, knowing full-well that they are stronger together and could easily overpower him if they remain united. The two halves are torn apart and turn on one another. The woman, in her thirst for freedom, takes control of the situation, and the man fails in his duty to stop her. Free will is unleashed into the world, and with it comes consequence and chaos and danger.

If season 1 can be read as the journey from the garden to the fall, season 2 reads more like the journey from the fall to the cross. Chaos and confusion, spiraling slowly towards death and destruction. Constant distrust between the man and the woman, between God and his bride. An inability to reconcile, to fix what’s been broken. The citadel goes from being Eden to being Gethsemane. When every other option has been tried and all hope is lost, Loki returns to the moment of the fall and pleads with his love, over and over again, to make a different choice. But she will not stop rebelling, even though it leads to her death every time.

Unable to reason with her, Loki confronts He Who Remains to bargain for her life. But there’s no option that doesn’t end in bloodshed. Loki must either kill Sylvie, the woman he loves, and go on committing genocide in HWR’s place. Or, he must break the temporal loom and let the chaos that ensues destroy all of reality. These, according to He Who Remains, are the only two choices. So Loki makes a third choice. Instead of sacrificing others for the multiverse, he makes a total sacrifice of himself. I think you can see where I’m going with this.

It’s not lost on me how weird it is to compare Loki, a marvel super villain based off of a pagan norse god, to Jesus. But the crucifixion/ascension parallels here aren’t exactly subtle. Loki puts on a heavy crown, carries a great burden up a hill, and “dies” on a tree of all things, to save both the woman he loves and the group of friends he’s grown close with during his time at the TVA. His last words to his loved ones before he ascends are, “I know what kind of God I need to be, for you, for all of us.” When I think about the story in these parabolic terms, I’m almost overwhelmed by how much truth is woven into this mythology. And yet, something about it still feels deeply unsettling to me. There’s still a piece missing that makes it feel more like a Greek tragedy than a Jewish parable.

As they are, Loki Seasons 1 and 2 show me a reflection of the fall, the cross, and in some ways, the ascension of Jesus Christ. What they don’t show me is a picture of the resurrection. And any christian will tell you that the resurrection is the most vital part of the story (1 Corinthians 15:16-20). The series shows me sin and what it costs. They show me what is lost in sacrifice, but they don’t show me what is gained. The hero meets a fate worse then death, and is forced to remain there, alone, for all eternity. There are no tearful reunions at the tomb, no assurance that death has been defeated, no eucatastrophe. No curse reversed. God and man are forever separated, and for some reason that’s supposed to be beautiful, according to Marvel. It’s not. It’s a question mark, a gaping wound at the end of the story that offers no comfort. To live in that tension, that separation, in those three days between Christ’s death and his resurrection, is literally the most painful, most hopeless place for the human heart to dwell. But, maybe it’s a tension that we should sit in more often, so that we can appreciate the weight of what Christ did for us.

The more I think about it, the more I realize that I don’t really hate season 2 of Loki. It’s a beautifully crafted piece of art, well-written (sort of) and well-acted, with gorgeous production design and a deep, meaningful story at its core. What I hate, with every fiber of my being, is the thought that that is where the story ends. That it’s supposed to end there. That this ending is good. As a Christian, I almost can’t accept it. Everything in me screams that there has to be more resolution beyond the credits of the finale.

That, I think, is where all the pain swirling in my heart around this story is really coming from. And whether they know it or not, I think that’s where a lot of the Loki fandom’s pain is coming from right now. The gospel is so written into our DNA that it pours itself out into every mythology we try to create. We are so desperate for the reassurance that the resurrection is true, that when we get even the slightest hint that it might not be, it triggers our deepest, darkest anxieties. Nothing scares me more than the thought of being alone, separated from God, for all eternity. Not even death is scarier, or more tragic, than that. It is, by definition, hell.

So yeah. Curse you, Marvel. Curse you for telling me a story that hurts like hell, and expecting me to just be ok with it. For giving me an ending that could never, in any reality, be satisfying or conclusive, and then trying to gaslight me into believing that it is. For ensuring that I will probably end up buying a ticket for both Secret Wars and Kang Dynasty (even though I’m really tired of superhero movies) just so that I can see if I’m right, that love really does win in the end. I don’t really have any kind of expectation that the next two Avengers movies are going to give me the closure I’m looking for. But I think I know where I can find it.

As grieved as I am by the way Marvel handled this story, I’m also kind of amazed by the way its incompleteness is revealing to me the total, satisfying completeness of the gospel. Marvel can’t promise me that, at the end of time, the God of Stories will be reunited with his warring bride and live happily ever after in the presence of his inner circle. But the gospel does. And the hope that I find there is immeasurable.

#loki #loki season 2 #loki series #geeking out gracefully #sylki #sylvie laufeydottir #christianity #when sacrifice no longer feels loving #eucatastrophe #ressurection

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alwida10 · 10 months

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Ok, I know i shouldn’t let myself be baited into arguments. Hrrnng.

After cooling down for two years searching for exchange and considering alternative points of views, I see how Sylvie can be a compelling character. And even from the beginning I agreed that she would have probably been much more compelling to me if she had gotten more screen time, highlighting her past.

All good.

But sometimes I come across posts that say basically Loki would be better seen as a jealous, petty, dude who just don’t consider anyone but himself, gives a shit for victims of his actions etc. One time someone even gave me a list of his crimes, including genocide, slavery, human trafficking, espionage, torture, betrayal of everyone he ever knew (the guy’s time management skills must be amazing) and some other points I don’t remember anymore, partly because of redundancy.

And I mean, I get how villains can be compelling characters, I do. And yeah, knowing their past can sometimes put things into context, yet it will never justify their actions. (I just watched the dungeons and dragons movie and the red magician is such a cool character! She is beyond redemption and doesn’t have a good hair on her, but yeah, good character design!)

So, if you like Sylvie or Mobius, why (WHY!!) would you want them to be together with such a dick? And a clown, talking from Sylvie’s perspective (and she’s right). Like, don’t you want your fav to be with someone who is nice? Who’s redeemable at the very least? Because someone who attempted to murder their own family without caring the tiniest bit and succeeded killing his mother doesn’t really seem to be a good match for a partner?Such an abusive man who cared only for himself for 1.5 millennia might show a bit of care in the beginning of a relationship, as long the victim isn’t attached properly. But when the victim is emotionally attached? The abuser will simply go back to torturing them. (I recommend the book “why does he do that?” It’s educational and will help you to realize how an healthy relationship looks like. Which seems like an easy thing, but trust me - it isn’t when emotional manipulation takes part). Like, if you really think interpreting Loki like that, I cannot imagine how you think your fav could be happy around them. People can change, but especially narcissism is so hard to overcome it certainly won’t disappear within days. Not after 1.5 millennia of using everyone and everything to their own benefit. That guy is a monster and even if (and that’s a big IF) he should change his behavior his past crimes are unforgivable and the best he could achieve is a heroic sacrifice for the real heroes.

Man, i really prefer giving him the benefit of the doubt, keeping in mind he was abducted as a child, raised by a racist and imperialist and made decisions in emotional turmoil without considering or seeing all the consequences. Do I consider him jealous? Sure. I’m jealous of people who are rich without having done anything for it. Do I consider him petty? No. Because I keep in mind how Goffrey (GoT) would have acted in a similar situation. Do I consider his pain being justified? Yes. Do I think he loved his family? Yeah, because why else would he have spared odin’s life twice and rescued Jane? Do I think he supported Thanos willingly? Just as willingly as gamora and nebula did. Do I think he never did anything wrong? No, attempted genocide is horrible, murdering a ruler of a nation at war is -while not criminal- not a good thing when you want piece without people dying. But sabotaging the coronation (if he really tried to voice his concerns before and wasn’t listened to) was a desperate act of loyalty. And that’s what matters.

#fandom discourse #will probably delete tomorrow #Loki series negativity #Loki series criticism

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lokisprettygirl · 2 years

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Please tell me you have something fluffy coming to bandage my shattered heart! 🥺😭💔. I get his insecurities but he could have said “hey Katlyn said something about Bruce and I’m getting worried that you only want to be with me because the situation is similar with your moms.” He told his baby to talk to him like an adult and she felt that that bitch Katlyn stole someone else from her.

She seems to have shut off completely and is back to being numb 😭. Why can’t she have just one day to be completely happy?! Back to telling her to talk to him like an adult, he didn’t talk to her like an adult either. He talked to her like they do and then is saddened by the distance he created. What else was going to happen with that? He didn’t want to hurt her but said the very words that would shatter her and ignored her to hang out with Katlyn… if he thought that that girl was suddenly going to be honest about things… idk I get attached to characters emotionally and when something like this happens I wanna shake sense into them.

I agree with that one person who said that Y/N is choosing to take care of herself. She really is she doesn’t want her heart to be shattered anymore and she didn’t just go and hurt herself! She legit chose life and herself this time! I can’t help but be giddy about that! That is a huge sign of progress in a positive way for her. It shows what she is willing to do to be happy and do it herself!

I do want Loki to fix this and work on his insecurities. Truly I do but when he said any body guard can do that my heart shattered fir her. He basically confirmed to her that she was a whore and when she clapped it back to him when she let him go i was shocked, heartbroken, and proud of her for standing up for herself all at once. I’m truly upset that he ignored her for Katlyn though, I truly can’t get over it at all. It probably feels like to her what happened with Peter all over again and honestly is that plan of his to ruin Katlyn worth it? There are other ways to ruin her like with the recording of Peter confessing that he knows she roofied Y/N and set up for her to get raped. All the recordings they now have of her just being awful to Y/N with the help of Bucky and Steve.

The hair cut and treadmill thing were golden too, meaning she can’t work as a model when looking hideous like that. Destroy her rep and career. Ya know, the things that matter most to that shallow piece of garbage. I’m just furious about how he so readily believed Katlyn over his baby…. I get it’s insecurities but believing human garbage over a completely abused Y/N? The fact that Katlyn was in his room too! That had to truly shatter Y/N. Idk if he can fix this, that would honestly be pretty close to irreparable for me.

Sorry for the long rant I need some fluffy Loki in my life now! Your writing is truly wonderful!

You see my dear, the one thing my loki knows how to do is ..repair things 😅

That's how a secure person would raise that concern, him though? He's anything but secure when it comes to relationships, I don't think he recognises his own value and is always putting himself down internally. Like I said, that accusation coming from anyone other than Katlyn would have done the same damage but maybe she wouldn't be as hurt as she is.

Her being in his room was just worst timing and he ruined his own relationship instead of ruining Katlyn. You seee Karma comes for good people first because bad people are good at deceiving him.

Trust me he doesn't think of her any different, his break down was solely his doing, he doesn't think he was someone she'd pick just for him, he always fears that there's a reason why someone would want to be with him and as soon as something hinted towards it he fell deep down that hole.

Thank you my dear, things will get better for her I promise. 🥺💚

#anon asks #the bodyguard

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worstloki · 2 years

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new Loki/The Tesseract shipper here! so i’ve got a question, how exactly would you write Loki/Tesseract? I know many people portray Tess in a human form but like, if you were writing romance between Loki x The actual cube, how would that go down exactly? (Also I’m the same person who sent the tesseroki message yesterday about how weird it is and I love it!!)

there are loads of ways to do so, you're not really limited here ! Personally I like any of these:

- Tess can project out of the cube. Can't touch much stuff and floats around as a cloud a lot. Can be given a humanoid shape but that's not necessary - I'd do it if it was cute though, like if the light turned into Loki and was non-corporeally copying what he was doing

- Tess communicates through emotions, mostly. It's basically just radiating thoughts/emotions. The possibility of Loki being able to sense this/decipher it can be due to magic or something else.

- Telepathy. That's always fun. Mind to mind communication. The Tesseract likes to talk to him, apparently.

- being emotionally attached doesn't need to be @ a body but throwing attraction into it makes it very neat too !! Like ok the cube's energy fluctuates when Loki's in the room. Loki's trying to ignore it but keeps glancing it's way. Loki's daydreaming about a sentient rock and the infinity stone is blushing over some organic being. Their families are going to be so disappointed.

- The Tesseract can teleport around but otherwise Loki carrying it around everywhere. Keeping it in a pocket. Storing it at the surface of his pocket dimension. Tess can always teleport him to them if they want too.

- I also like to mess around with all the infinity stones being part of 1 conscious being - which means that if it's only Tess that's fond of Loki that whatever ethereal or eldritch form the combined infinity stones take there's 1/6th of it that is going <3 at him every time Space takes the wheel

- Loki's magic and the Tesseract's magic solely getting attached to each other, constantly wanting to cling, which of course drags Loki along. "No, I don't need the Tesseract to--put it back. Why isn't it working. Gah! Fine!! I'll use it!"

- Loki and dark!Tess but it's Loki getting addicted to the power high the Tesseract gives. It is an infinity stone, after all. Bonus points for radiation poisoning and withdrawal symptoms >:]

- I'm also partial to the Tesseract taking forms but it never being it's "own" !! This can include possessing other beings - can be Loki or someone around him, which essentially makes Tess the soul of the Tesseract.

- Similar to the one above this can also mean mimicking others so it can make it's own body, but it takes the forms of people it's seen. This means you can have 2 Loki's around, one with probably-blue eyes and magic tbh.

- the Tesseract leeching into Loki;s mind and/or stealing his magic to keep them together? also good. Tess is merely a cube haha just a fun lil funky lil shape hehe . not a threat haha. now use it since you're running low on seidr Loki <3

- the Tesseract's neutral state sounding like it's singing. When Loki was stuck with Thanos he used to look forward to spying on SHIELD because he fell in love with that. His sanity is on a thin thin thread. He's still in love with it when he's gotten away from Sanctuary. Whoops.

and so on !

#Honestly #anything you can think of is on the table XD #I'm fond of Loki sleeping curled around the Tesseract idk I think there's potential there #there are a few fics which keep the Tesseract as a cube and have Loki attached and just as many which make Tess humanoid-ish #tesseroki

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bebx · 3 years

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There are 2 ways they could make Mobius being a variant more heartbreaking,

1) my little crack theory, Mobius (and all the other tva agents) are all Loki variants too

2) Mobius was a SHIELD agent who died or was supposed to die during Loki’s attacks either on the helicarrier or in NYC

I think 2 could actually be canon though. You know I’ve made so many theories in my head about this ever since I’ve seen episode 3

- Mobius was just a guy with a wife and a kid before the TVA took him (probably the most common theory since I’ve seen so many people come up with it)

- Mobius was a therapist who liked jet ski (this one I came up with it myself lol I was like ‘hey what if Mobius was a gay therapist who liked jet ski?’ That would explain why he was able to see through Loki’s pain and issues, and the jet ski part was kinda obvious)

- Mobius being a cop in his old life is one of what I believe are the possibilities as well. That’d explain why he’s so good as a TVA agent. So yes, Mobius being a SHIELD agent fits just perfectly fine.

Anyway I think his old life definitely has something to do with jet skis. Guess we’ll see.

BUT my only concerns are that they made the ‘guy with a wife and a kid’ canon (I’m a Lokius shipper, in case you couldn’t tell) or that they made him and Loki permanently say goodbye after the series ends, you know something like ‘Mobius went back to his old life and Loki went back to the main timeline to live his original fate where Thanos... you know.’ Like if either of these were the case, it’d actually break me lol like I kind of need to see more of Mobius after the Loki series. He’s become one of my comfort characters and I’ve grown so emotionally attached to him. I didn’t plan for it to happen. It just did.

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musclesandhammering · 3 years

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Loki (2021) Positivity from an Anti

Ok so all of my mutuals know I’m extremely anti-Loki (2021), anti-sylki, and anti-sylvie. But at a certain point, even we antis get tired of all the negativity. So! Here’s some Loki series commentary in the opposite direction! This is a list of all the things about the show that I loved :)

Also adding a disclaimer that all of this is just my opinion and some of my fellow antis (or even people who liked the show) might disagree, and that’s fine! I’ve been planning this post for awhile. I always say in my other posts that I don’t entirely hate the show and I wanted to be a little more specific about what I think are its good aspects. Feel free to leave your thoughts!

• Mobius is a gem (Owen Wilson owns my whole heart) and his relationship with Loki is so so great. He’s not one-dimensional at all, he has conflicted loyalty and is morally complex, and he has the tragic backstory- which makes him a perfect choice for eventually becoming Loki’s first genuine friend.

• The casting was really really great. Lots of women and people of color. Most of the female actresses (as well as the males) are over 30, which isn’t very common and is fantastic!

• Superb acting all around. I can’t think of a single scene where the actors under or oversold it.

• Beautiful set design, incredible cgi, and gorgeous cinematography overall. It looked more like a movie than a tv show, which is really good.

• Kang being the big bad was a huge plus for me. Johnathan Majors was perfect in the role, his vibes were immaculate, and I was honestly pretty worried that the man behind the curtain would end up being another Loki variant, which imo would’ve been boring and predictable and counter-productive, so it was a big relief when that didn’t happen.

• I like that it sets up a bunch of future marvel movies, rather than being contained to its own little world. It gives it more importance and (hopefully) will encourage writers to not just toss Loki’s character aside in future projects.

• All the Loki variants were delightful. All of them except Sylvie. Kid Loki has my heart. Boastful Loki is a fashion icon. Alligator Loki is a savage. President Loki is the superior variant. Classic Loki became my fav character in less than half an episode.

• It showed some more variety in Loki’s magic. A lot of his powers we’ve seen before, but it feels like they were portrayed a bit more blatantly in the show. The energy blasts, the telekinesis, the teleportation… Outstanding.

• It also implied that Loki has the potential to be waaaay more powerful than he knows he is right now, which? Yes.

• Some of the quotes- and the themes behind them- are just profound as hell. Such as:

“I think we’re stronger than we realise.”

“It’s never too late to change.”

“You can be whoever you wanna be, even someone good.”

“We’re Lokis. We survive. It’s what we do.”

“Loki, God of Outcasts.”

“The universe wants to break free, that’s why it manifests chaos.”

• Technically Loki was Marvel’s first canon lgbt (bi) character, which is a win. His genderfluidity is also technically canon, even if it wasn’t really acknowledged on-screen.

• There were a lot of throwback references to Thor 1, Avengers, and Thor The Dark World. Which I loved.

• Sylvie’s so pretty. Her hair and makeup and costume were all perfect.

• Big fan of Loki finally getting Laevateinn.

• Sufficiently slutty imagery, courtesy of a female director (Loki in a collar, kneeling to Sif, President Loki looking down into the bunker, the hair flips)

• The music was Excellent Wonderful and Superb.

• I love that Loki being a good singer is now canon.

• I love that Asgardians having their own language is now canon (even if it’s basically just Icelandic).

• I also love that they disproved all of those “Loki was a shy nerdy wallflower pre-canon” theories in Episode 3. The drinking/eating/singing scene was fun, if a bit wacky.

• There’s a million different reasons why Loki does what he does, especially in regards to the New York attack (I’m literally writing a huge meta on them), but somehow I never considered that Loki being desperate for control was one of them. It makes a lot of sense, and I always love getting new insights into his motivations.

• I love that Loki finally outright acknowledged that he doesn’t enjoy hurting people. We Been Knew™️ but it’s still nice to hear it out loud from his own mouth.

• The TVA outfit wasn’t as hideous as some people make it out to be. It could’ve been A Look, even. You know, if he’d just accessorised a little better. And kept the jacket on. And not gotten sweaty. And not gotten dirty. And maybe had at least one other costume change… But it had potential, though!!

• Even though I despise the Obvious One, I did actually like some of the other romance crumbs they tossed us (sifki, Loki x the flight attendant).

• The whole DB Cooper thing was iconic idc idc.

• Loki’s hyper sort of overly excited puppy attitude in episode 2 was actually pretty refreshing and funny (for awhile). And now I can headcanon him as adhd, yeehaw.

• “We’re all villains here.” That quote was iconic, my favourite one in the show. And the entire theme that it summarised was really great as well. When you think about it, every single main character in this series has been the villain at one point or another. I mean, I know all marvel characters do bad things etc, but none of the Heroes are ever narratively categorised as Bad. This show did just that with all of them, though. . Loki was framed as the psychopath that attacked New York. Sylvie was framed as the murderous fugitive. The TVA/Ravonna/Mobius were framed as the murderous fascists. Kang was framed as the crazy totalitarian. It’s made clear that all the Loki variants were the villains of their stories.

However, every single main character in the series is also framed as the Hero at a certain point. Loki is framed as the main protagonist who throws a wrench in the TVA’s dastardly plans. Sylvie is framed as the persevering freedom fighter who wants to take down the fascists. The TVA/Mobius/Ravonna are framed as the ones who maintain order for the greater good. Kang is framed as the weird but ultimately benevolent wise man who’s just trying to prevent something worse from happening. The Loki variants are framed as generous allies who befriend the main character and help him on his journey.

Everyone in this equation is openly acknowledged by the narrative to be morally corrupt, but not entirely morally bankrupt. There are no Straightforward Hero Figures (like the Avengers) in this entire scenario at all, and that makes for a super interesting dynamic that marvel has never done before. So yes: “We’re all villains here.” But also: “No one bad is ever truly bad, and no one good is ever truly good.” I loved that.

• Even if it wasn’t really enough imo, I still treasure the crumbs we got of Loki being competent and capable (him putting the collar on B-15, him figuring out Sylvie’s hiding place, him teaching himself to enchant on the fly while fighting a giant cloud beast of eldritch proportions).

• I love that B-15 was the one who stepped in and saved the day in Episode 4, when we all thought it was gonna be Mobius. What a queen.

• Marvel usually has a bit of a problem with creating compelling and memorable side characters. But aside from Sylvie, I genuinely got attached to every single character in this show. Like Casey, C-20? I was seriously emotionally invested in them and they were only in like 2 episodes. Wtf.

• Introducing the TVA storyline in the Loki series specifically was a really good move. I’m not saying they executed it well, just that it had a ton of potential. A lot of people have wondered why marvel even thought to put those two (the TVA and Loki) together, when they had literally nothing to do with each other, nothing in common, and essentially no connection at all. But when you think about it, it’s a really interesting twist on both of those stories. Forcing the embodiment of destructive chaos and the pillar of rigid order to interact could make for some seriously entertaining and compelling television. And as far as meshing these two completely unrelated entities together goes, I thought they did it pretty well- at least just the bare bones of the story (loki being arrested by the TVA and being one of their most common variants).

So that’s it! If you guys (fellow antis) wanna add stuff you liked, feel free. If anyone wants to discuss (or debate) my list, feel free to do that too!

#loki series 2021 #loki laufeyson #anti sylvie #loki meta #loki odinson #loki #loki series

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mxgilray · 3 years

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I... have some thoughts on the Loki finale. It was not what I was expecting, but I'm still hopeful for season 2.

This felt like a meh finale, like how a lot of season finales felt in Spring 2020 when they unexpectedly quit filming and had to cut things short by a couple episodes thanks to the pandemic. Only this was the planned out finale, they should've given a bit more oomph. I'm quite a fan of exposition and character development usually, but all the dialog was centered on He Who Remains, so it felt like our main characters were just side pieces.

Plus, the final "cliffhanger" of Mobius not knowing Loki and the statue of HWR replacing the Time Keeper statues felt quite lackluster. Not sure how they could've made it hit harder, but it didn't deliver the "oh shit" vibes they intended, but maybe that's cuz Mobius not remembering Loki has been an expected plot line on tumblr for half the season so it wasn't a blindside.

I get the point of the Sylki kiss. From what I've seen on tumblr so far I feel like the nuance of Sylvies actions was lost to most people (both Sylki fans and antis just Didn't Get It). It wasn't a big declaration of love like the fans are grasping onto it as, and it wasn't shoving selfcest into the canon to keep the heternormativity like antis are accusing it of being; it was Sylvie using Loki's attachment to her to trick him. She needed Loki out of her way, and she knew the only way to get past him and get He Who Remains' tempad was through emotional distraction. She used his love against him and betrayed him, a kiss was simply the most efficient way to do it. I did a whole post last week about Sylvie's feelings towards Loki, but to sum up I firmly believe that while Loki harbors some romantic feelings for Sylvie, she feels strictly platonic towards him, but is very aware of his attraction. She took advantage of his care for her to get the upper hand during their fight. Heck she even foreshadowed it herself in ep 5. "There are more important things than friends" "like taking down the TVA" she told Loki that taking down whoever is behind the TVA comes before everything; it's priority #1 in her book, above friendship or love or trust. Loki proved that his priority now is the greater good of the universe not her revenge, so Sylvie has no use for him anymore (partners only when it's convenient, because she is a Loki and that's how emotionally stunted Lokis behave).

I would like to point out the irony of her being worried about Loki betraying her, only to turn around and betray him. It's in the realm of "people who cheat assuming their partner is cheating" / "not using a turn signal when changing planes to avoid being cut off because when you see someone else use their signal you tend to cut them off", it's assuming other people will behave like you do. Sylvie feared in ep 5 that Loki would betray her in the end because she knew if it came down to it she'd betray him. But the thing is, he's actually grown past that. Loki is finally thinking about how his actions can damage others, not just his own wants and needs. Sylvie saw this moral change in Loki, realized there was no chance of getting him back on the blind revenge boat, and decided to exploit his newfound selflessness and emotional attachment to get him out of her path.

This whole season Loki has been maturing emotionally and growing into the best, most heroic version of himself. Sylvie, on the other hand, still has that deceptive, selfish, can't trust anyone persona that every Loki develops to combat insecurity. She hasn't had the emotional growth needed to see the bigger picture, she's still trapped in her own self centered mindset. As such, she disregards the impact her betrayal will have on Loki, the impact killing HWR will have on the universe. She doesn't even take a beat to consider whether revenge is still the right path cuz she doesn't practice self reflection yet; revenge has always been the goal and she refuses to give herself a chance of changing her mind. I hope in season 2 she'll get some character growth, now that her 1 goal has been accomplished.

Now on to Mobius. I enjoyed his scenes, I wish we'd been shown more of what he did to reveal the truth to the rest of the TVA. Again, I feel like too much time was given to HWR's monologing and not enough was spent on the other characters so Mobius and B-15 got very little screen time to display their plan. I am happy Mobius got the opportunity to throw Ranslayers betrayal back in her face, and his attemp at attacking her...my boy you work a desk job you ain't no fighter, she used to work in the field collecting variants, you had no chance. Also, where the F did she go??? I kept expecting her to show up at the end of time but she didn't. Where did Miss Minutes send her??

I'm sad Mobius doesn't know Loki anymore, but I can't say I'm surprised. I've got a few different thoughts on what the heck is going on with him and the TVA:

Sylvie accidentally sent Loki way back to a time early on in the TVA before HWR created the Time Keepers for anonymity. As such, this is a past Mobius who has yet to meet Loki or even learn of Loki's existence. If this is the case, then I think Loki and Past!Mobius's interaction at the end of ep 6 will be the catalyst for him becoming a Loki expert. The 63 branching timelines Mobius and B-15 are discussing before Loki interrupts are from some currently unknown disaster that'll be a plot line in s2. (This is my least favorite theory, but nevertheless a possibility)

HWR was correct when he said that if Sylvie kills him and destroys the TVA then another variant of him will just start it all up again. This variant didn't care to remain anonymous, hence the big statue of him, but kept all the memory wiped variants working there. Because time is a chaotic bitch, the changeover from one HWR variant to another may have been near seamless at the TVA and just involved a quick memory wipe of anything relating to the Time Keepers, Loki and Sylvie, or knowledge that the TVA are all variants. The 63 branches may be thanks to something Renslayer is doing like killing all the HWR variants in existence in order to negate the need for the TVA. The branching could also be from Sylvie's revenge still, we have no idea how much time has passed between her killing HWR and a new HWR taking over so the branching she caused could still be an issue.

There have actually been multiple TVAs running simultaneously, each in their own multiverse. Each one employs memory wiped variants, each one is in charge of a certain subset of timelines, and all work under the one HWR. Sylvie used HWR's tempad to eject Loki back to the TVA, but she accidentally sent him to the TVA of a different multiverse not realizing that's a Thing. The 63 branching timelines Mobius and B-15 are discussing are indeed from Sylvie killing HWR, but there's only 63 as opposed to the countless we saw diverging from Sylvie's perspective because this TVA only sees branches on timelines within their own multiverse. Mobius doesn't know Loki because he isn't our Mobius and in the multiverse he works in maybe Loki's aren't as much of an issue because none of them ever escaped the TVA like Sylvie did (or none of them have Tom's face so he doesn't recognize him as a Loki). If this is the case, then Loki is gonna have to find his way back to his own multiverse in order to be reunited with his Mobius, and that could end up happening thanks to Renslayer. Miss Minutes gave her a file that I suspect only HWR should have access to. Maybe it was tempad coordinates for other multiverses? It took til the 31st century for the multiverses to be connected despite Tony figuring out time travel in the 21st century because travel between universes is much harder, maybe HWR is still the only one who knows how to do that. (If this theory is correct then all the time travel done during Endgame was through timelines within one multiverse) Also just thought of this but what if the reason there are so many extreme variations of loki that grew to adulthood is because the criteria of "sacred timeline" is different in each multiverse. Classic Loki and maybe President Loki and Kid Loki are from the same universe as MCU Loki, but red haired Loki, Croki, Boastful Loki, etc are all from other universes. Think about it, Classic Loki, 2012 Loki, and MCU Loki all have an exact identical path up until their nexus event (or death in MCU Loki's case). I think other than identifying as female, Sylvie's childhood was identical as well and that her nexus event was coming to terms with her adoption as a child, which erased the catalyst of 2011 Thor's plot and would've changed everything for her future path. Had her adoption remained a secret and she grew up on asgard, I believe her story would mirror MCU Loki's. It mildly hit me weird that there would be such wild variation amongst Lokis, even with him being a shapeshifter, because there's a rigid sacred timeline (that supposedly the MCU movies have all adhered to) and they all felt like too big of a divergence to have been left unchecked so long. If boastful Loki was telling the truth about getting all 6 infinity stones then he should've triggered a nexus event as soon as he got more than the 3 he is "supposed to" interact with, unless in his multiverse the sacred timeline criteria is different. Another theory: the agents employed in each TVA are from multiverses other than the one they're working in. It would make sense, keep them from running into their own past by fully detaching each agent from their home timeline/universe. So the Principal!Renslayer that B-15 found will never in any future become the TVA judge we know. The one we know maybe came from the universe Loki got sent to, and that's how the two of them will end up crossing paths again.

#loki series #loki spoilers #loki #lokius #sylki #sylvie laufeydottir #mobius m mobius #tva loki #time variance authority #loki meta #mcu #marvel

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kitkatopinions · 3 years

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So let’s talk about types of headcanons, because not all of them are equal.

Headcanon A: Canon defiance - Headcanons that directly contradict the actual canon of the media you’re consuming. “Loki never hurt anybody,” “Fred Weasley never died,” “Spirit from Soul Eater was a great husband,” “Qrow never punched Oscar,” “James Ironwood never turned evil,” “Ruby managed to save everyone from Salem in Atlas and Mantle,” “Winter never hit Weiss,” “Adam wasn’t abusive to Blake.” Sometimes people say things like this in jest, but these are frequently used by people making re writes of canon or simply ignoring canon for the purposes of their fanfictions. This is also used by people who once really liked a show or even just a character, but discredit what they feel like is bad writing, ruins canon for them, or ruins a character that they’re attached to. This is very valid to do but you can’t use these to argue your points, period.

Headcanon B: It’s a stretch - Headcanons that you might not be able to definitely prove as wrong, but have no credibility in the actual canon and often have hints contradicting it. “Draco started realizing he was wrong years before he took the Dark Mark, he just faked like he still believed it,” “Uma in Descendants was only pretending to care about the Isle kids to get to Mal,” “Lupin never had any romantic feelings for Tonks,” “James Ironwood never fought a real human person before Watts,” “Yang and Blake talked through and worked out all their problems after they killed Adam,” “Ozpin emotionally manipulated Qrow and Raven into accepting the ability to turn into birds,” “Winter loves and tried to help Whitley out of his abusive situation,” “Blake never had any romantic feelings for Sun.” These sorts of headcanons are still valid, people often times fill in the gaps of media they enjoy in order to increase their enjoyment of it, even if those ideas don’t fit easily into the narrative. I do this all the time, I have tons of headcanons that I use in fanfictions that just can’t hold up easily or you have to do a lot of stretching and jumping through mental hoops to make them work. But again, you just can’t use these things to argue your points. It’s not supported by the text, in fact it’s sometimes hinted to not be the case. That’s not to say that you can’t talk about these or even comment them on people’s posts, but it’s a real good idea to start with something like ‘This is my headcanon for-’ or ‘How I justify this is-’ or even ‘I know this doesn’t make much sense but I like to headcanon-’

Headcanon C: No proof, no hints - Headcanons that don’t have any ground to stand on, but can’t be disproven and aren’t hinted at as right or wrong in the text. Nothing saying it might be right, nothing saying it might be wrong. “Legolas had romantic feelings for Aragorn,” “Ginny showed signs of magic when she was five,” “Hector and Ernesto from Pixar’s Coco were orphans,” “Roman Torchwick was actually Nora’s father even though neither of them knew,” “Torchwick came from a family of Hunters,” “Qrow and Ironwood were students at the Huntsman Academies together.” “Jaune didn’t get along with some of his sisters.” These are absolutely fine and often really fun headcanons, but again, just aren’t supported, so you can’t use them to argue your points. These are usually harmless, though, you don’t often see them crop up in arguments.

Headcanon D: Hinted at / supported by canon - These are headcanons that you might not be able to prove as definitively true, but actually do have hints or pieces of canon that support it. You could also refer to these as a ‘reading of the text,’ because you actually can find things pointing to it in the text. “Sirius and Snape were both abused as kids,” “Han Solo is a little bit Force sensitive,” “Sherlock in the show Sherlock was babied by his parents his whole life,” “Adam was abusive to Blake before she left the White Fang,” “Taiyang has PTSD that still impacts him during the show,” “Qrow was treated worse in the Branwen Tribe than Raven was,” “Weiss didn’t go to combat school and was instead trained by Winter,” “Whitley was physically abused just like Weiss was,” “Yang had feelings for Blake in the first five seasons.” While these sorts of arguments aren’t definitive, I feel like they can at least be used to argue points because they do have some ground to stand on even if they aren’t out and out stated in the show proper. "This moment suggests A” is a perfectly valid point to make. For example “Yang winking at Blake and saying ‘I love it when your fiesty’ and asking for a dance could hint towards Yang having feelings for her,” that’s a perfectly fine response to something like “There’s no groundwork for the Bumblebee ship.” But “Things like Yang winking aren’t proof of romantic feelings on her part and are easily read as friendship since she’s been known to wink at others she obviously isn’t attracted to,” is still a very valid point to make, because being hinted at is not the same thing as being confirmed in the narrative. People (including me sometimes lol) need to remember that the way they’ve read things aren’t always the way others have and that even when they feel that their headcanons do have hints or support from canon, that doesn’t mean that it’s the definitive and only acceptable reading.

Why am I talking about this? Because I see so much ‘presenting my headcanon as fact’ and ‘using that headcanon to argue my points,’ in the RWBY fandom (and other fandoms tbh) and it’s so weird and trippy. Especially because I’ve seen the first two way too many times and it feels sometimes like I dropped into an alternate universe where some people watched a different show than me. The amount of times I’ve been in a debate with someone and then realize there’s no point in continuing, since their arguments were based on headcanons. I’m coming to realize that this is actually pretty regular, but it really is very frustrating at times. XD

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littlethingwithfeathers · 3 years

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My “short” review of Black Widow

Let me first say that I’m not going to hard-core spoil anything, but I am going to talk about vague plot points and themes so if that counts for spoilers (and it would for me) give this a skip til you’ve seen it. Let me secondly say up front that I enjoyed the movie. It was great. I had a good time with it. The fight scenes were *chef’s kiss* and I really enjoyed the claustrophobic camera work. The soundtrack was unique and had a flavor all its own. The dialogue was organic and well written. And Florence Pugh stole the fucking show as Yelena. Holy shit. Like... Natasha is one of my favorite Avengers, and Rachel Weiss is hands down my favorite actress, but my eyes were on Florence the whole movie. She was so good. Now. While I did enjoy the movie... it felt very unfocused. Spy movie plots often have a tendency of losing their audience if they’re not careful and this one was no exception. You kind of have to kind of go in knowing how a spy thriller is paced and plotted. Here’s the opening action sequence of the main character escaping pursuers. Here’s the “mcguffin” that will mostly drive the plot. Here’s the person we need to go get but it will require more action sequences. So on and so on. You’ve got to be ready to be along for that ride, and they do explain it pretty well but it’s very quick and perfunctory so you have to be paying attention. But then I realized it was also struggling because they were doing so much backstory and character work that it was getting in the way of the plot. And boy is there a lot of character work and exploration for Natasha. They hit up no less than three major themes for her. There was "What am I if I'm not what they made me to be?" “They” being the Red Room, the USSR, SHIELD, The Avengers... take your pick. She has this slow realization that she’s only ever been following orders and trying to fit into a world that doesn’t have a ready-made hole for her to fill as a complete human being. So who is she? What parts of herself is she unfamiliar with? What does she -want- to be? It’s a question that’s been hanging over her for the whole series.

Then there was "What constitutes a family?" Like do you get to pick them? Do they pick you? How does loyalty work when you just... decide to care about people? The found family trope is strong in this one and I was eating it up, and this was partly because it wasn’t a nice sanitized and “healthy” found family trope. This one was busted and awful. The Red Guardian is emotionally unavailable due to his own abandonment issues, as is Melina. And they both express this in differently unhealthy ways. Yelena is hot headed and emotional, both reaching and lashing out with the same gestures. And Natasha, who has had some healthy attachment and love in her life and has had a chance to deal with some of these issues that are deeply buried in the others, she doesn’t understand why everyone can’t just focus on the mission. It’s good good good stuff.

And lastly there was good old "How do you deal with unintended consequences?" in that Natasha has a ton of fallout from her actions following her around and she needs to square with it. That ledger that Loki taunted her with comes back to bear and it’s front and center. How do you say “I’m sorry” when what you’re apologizing for can’t be undone? Or even made better? Can the person you are now apologize or make restitution for the person you were? It’s brilliant. But they all have to share space. Three complicated themes in just over two hours. Plus a complex plot with lots of moving parts and history to wrangle. This movie is trying to do a lot. It’s almost like Natasha should have had her own trilogy.

Seriously... there were three movies in here. Easy. Give her one to explore that theme of self determination after Winter Soldier when SHIELD is melted out from under her. Maybe have her try to go back to just being mercenary and it not sitting well with her anymore. Put this one after Civil War, and let it just be about the found family story and the Red Room. Then do one more where she goes back to Cap and Company and have her unintended consequences catch up to her. Let me go back and remind you that I think this movie is good and worth seeing, but I still can’t help feeling Natasha still got the shaft. I was left wanting more, and not in a good or satisfying “more please” way. I still say go see it. It’s great. It answers some heavy questions about Natasha’s past. And like I said... Yelena is the most amazing character ever. I definitely want more of her in the good way. But I suppose that’s that, and I’m definitely looking forward to Hawkeye even more now (seriously... don’t miss the post credits sequence. I’m still trying to recover from the emotional whiplash).

#black widow #black widow spoilers #spoilers #black widow review

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anna-pixie · 4 years

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my wife / poe dameron -> 4

sooooo i had every intention to end my wife here but i’ve somehow gotten emotionally attached to my own series so...

sorry again for slacking on the uploads but if you have requested anything recently they will be posted v v soon <3

pairings: poe dameron x reader

warnings: none

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You sigh happily, trying to ignore the way your scar stings as Poe brushes his fingers over it lightly. He’s been fawning over you ever since you got back from being held in the First Order, treating you like a porcelain doll since he found out about the torture you endured.

You won’t ever be able to forget the haunted look on his face as you had to relive your ordeal and explain it to General Organa and her commanders - which unfortunately meant he was forced to listen to it. About halfway through the briefing, Leia could see it was getting too much for Poe so she had excused the two of you, saying that you could carry on the next day.

“Where are you going?” Poe questions, his eyes frantic as he watches you get up from your place on his lap.

“I’m just going to the bathroom, I’ll only be a second.” Laughing a little at his worry, you make your way to the bathroom, wincing as your side throbs painfully.

You’re just finishing up in the bathroom when Poe knocks on the door softly, asking whether you’re okay since you’ve been in there a while. You roll your eyes. You found his constant worrying cute at first, however this has been going on for days and you’re starting to get tired of being treated like a child.

“I’m fine, Poe.” Your response is short and you hope he knows that you’re not in the mood for him to continue pestering you. Of course you should know better, this is Poe Dameron we’re talking about. Emotional intelligence is not his forte.

“Are you sure? Let me in, I’ll-”

“Poe I’m fine! Leave me alone, please.” You snap, your voice quiet as you don’t want to hurt him with your sharp words. Poe doesn’t reply to you but after a beat of silence you hear his footsteps softly padding away. You groan as guilt settles in your stomach. You know he is only trying to protect you, after thinking you were dead for half a year the thought of losing you all over again plagues his mind constantly.

You’re so focused on your own recovery that you can’t see Poe’s own suffering. When you wake from a terrifying nightmare reliving your trauma, you don’t know that Poe is waking from his own - his mind taunting him with images of your body being lowered into the ground. When your scars sting and you wince, you don’t notice the tears that Poe fights back at the thought of what you endured, what he couldn’t protect you from.

He is lying on the bed when you finally exit the bathroom, and he sends a hesitant look your way, as though he’s scared to annoy you in any way. You furrow your eyebrows and look at him, holding out your arms as you silently ask for a hug. He perks up at this, quickly leaping off the bed and making his way into your arms as his wind around you in the strong grip that you love so much.

Pulling back slightly to look at him, your breath stills at the proximity of your faces. Your mind unwillingly travels back to the evening that you left. The kiss between the two of you that neither of you have been brave enough to bring up since your return.

Poe licks his lips and seems to be having an internal battle as his eyes dart back and forth from your eyes to your mouth. Oh, the deja vu. Before either of you can make a move, however, you’re rudely interrupted by BB8’s frantic beeping. From Poe’s expression, you realise it must be something important, and he grabs his flight jacket.

“Stay here, I won’t be long.”

“Poe, I’m coming with you.”

“No, Y/N. Please, stay. I don’t want to be worrying about you while we’re out there okay?”

You huff, turning away from Poe as you grab your own sweater from his bed.

“Fine. I’m going to my own room. Bye.” You don’t give Poe a chance to reply before you leave his room, your face thunderous as you stride back to your own room. One you have made yourself comfy in pyjamas, under layers of cover, you reach for your datapad.

Private message.

Rey to Y/N: Want to go stargazing?

Y/N to Rey: Sure. Meet outside base in 5?

Rey to Y/N: :)!

You’re smiling again, mood lifting as you think about stargazing with Rey. It’s her favourite thing to do, she’s completely in her element when she’s lying beneath the dark sky.

You pick up two warm cups of caf on your way, still bundled underneath a pile of blankets as you meet a smiling Rey outside of the base. Much to your delight, Rey has been treating you as normal since you’ve been back. You know she feels guilty about what happened, that you were taken instead of her, but she’s very good at acting like everything is normal.

“You’re a lifesaver.” She smiles at you as you hand her a cup of caf, the two of you wandering towards the dense forest surrounding the base. You reach a clearing and place the blankets on the dry ground, letting out a pained groan as your bruises hit the hard surface.

“I’m okay.” You quickly confirm when you notice Rey’s concerned gaze on you. She smiles and quickly drops it, lying down next to you with a happy sigh.

“I’m so happy you’re back, Y/N, I don’t know what I would’ve done without my stargazing buddy forever.”

“You’re not getting rid of me that easily.” I smile at her, my eyes tearing up when I see Rey wiping underneath her eyes, “Stop it, you. You’ll make me cry.”

“Sorry. I just want you to know how much you mean to us, all of us, you know?”

“I know Rey. Trust me, I had plenty of time to mull that over while I was up there.”

We’re silent for a while, just taking in the beauty of the sky before we hear a rustling in the bushes. I stand quickly, ignoring the stabbing pain in my side as I look at Rey in confusion. No one ever comes this far into the forest except me and Rey.

The rustling becomes more clear now and seems to be coming from behind me. We whip around, Rey bringing out her lightsaber although she doesn’t seem too fearful about the impending danger. Footsteps become clear now and I can barely focus on anything except them, my heartbeat increasingly frantically as a figure bursts through the bushes.

It’s Finn. Finn and… BB8?

“What the kriff, guys! You’re going to send me to an early grave!” I place my hand over my heart, letting out a deep breath as Finn raises his arms in defence.

“Sorry, Y/N, we just needed to distract you…”

My brows furrow, eyes widening as I take in his and Rey’s mischievous expressions, “Distract me from what?”

“Turn around.” Rey speaks, biting her lip in excitement.

Hesitantly, I turn on the balls of my feet and I feel like I’ve been winded as I take in the sight in front of me.

Poe is on one knee before me, holding a ring in his hands as he looks at me hopefully. My eyes tear up and for a brief moment I consider whether this may be a practical joke. No, they wouldn’t be this cruel.

A tear escapes my eye as I look down at Poe, but I don’t bother to wipe it away.

“I know the word wife probably doesn’t mean a lot to you anymore. It’s like… the main word in my vocabulary,” He chuckles, taking a breath and trying to collect himself before he carries on, “As far as I’m concerned, you’ve been my wife since the moment I met you, and now I want to make it official… so, what do you say? Will you be my wife?”

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namelessexistence · 3 years

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Part 6 of 10 of my top 100 favorite characters

50 - Kozuki Kallen (Code Geass)

She could have embraced the privilege that would come with her brittain lineage. Instead, she chose to give that up in favor of fighting for freedom and equality. Fiercy, brave and skilled. Too bad that CG had this bad habit of adding unnecessary sexualization of it's female characters in the most random moments

49 - Ferris Bueller (Ferris Bueller's Day Off)

I was completly charmed by the chaotic energy he had. He's absurdly smart, but, instead of carefully planning, he would rather go around doing whathever he wants and dealing with problems as they come. Not the wisest way to live real life, but very fun to watch on tv

48 - Allen Avadonia (Evillious Chronicles)

My First contact with the EC was the song Servant of Evil. Probably not an uncommon way of starting. But still made me emotionally attached to the character. I found interesting how, in the song, he explain his actions, but never tries to justify, neither he tries to justify Riliane's actions. He just goes "Yes, that's my sister, the Evil Queen, and would commit atrocities for her". He calls himself "evil", he doesn't try to avoid this. The character never comes up as cruel. He's always acting for someone else's sake. But he's still a villain. If not in nature, at least in the role he (willingly) plays. As the song of his adoptive father Leonhart, A Hero's Armor Is Always Crimson, says

"Even if these are deeds for someone's sake

Can you call that "justice"?"

47 - Guren (Naruto)

One of the best female characters in Naruto. I was really disappointed when I found out that she was Just a filler character that did not exist in the mangá.

46 - A-Qing (Mo Dao Zu Shi)

She was smart, brave, but not reckless, and a godly self control. She deserved better. She was a child who grew in the streets with no family. Xiao Xingchen was the first to show her affection, so she tried to save that person instead of simply saving herself when she had the chance

45 - Belle (Beauty and The Beast)

The Disney movie. Belle loved books and fantasy and daydreamed a lot. I've seen people say that she acted as If she was better than people in her villeage, wich is not true at all. She was sweet and more than once in the song Belle, she tried to talk with other people about the books she was reading, tried to share her passion and her toughts with someone else, but no one was interested. She was judged for being different, even tought she never did anything to them. Judging what Is different is kinda the theme of the movie, but apparently some people missed It

44 - Tatiana Slozhno (Spies Are Forever)

Great musical, I recomend to everyone. Go watch it. Tatiana is great and her song, Prisoner of My Past, is just perfect. So short, but so much emotion.

43 - Asriel Dreemmur/ Flowey (Undertale)

Maybe I Just listened to too much versions of His Theme, but this character always hit me right in the heart. He's very tragic and, even in the happy ending, we cannot save him. It's impossible. We cannot bring back his souls. We cannot bring back Chara. Even after that Nice talking and hug, he's doomed to Go back to being a souless flower.

42 - Nebula (MCU)

I'm sure most of us are tired from MCU by now, but they did some things right. They had a lot of chances, so It makes sense. Nebula should have killed Thanos. If the writers coudn't give up that Iron Man scene, she should at least kill the Thanos from her timeline instead of Thor. Honestly, before Infinity War came out, what I truly wanted was a team formed by her, Tony Stark and Loki defeating Thanos. Not only because they are my favorite MCU characters, but also because they were the ones with personal issues with Thanos, along with Gamora and Drax

41 - Orihara Izaya (Durarara)

Sometimes you just want to see a bastard being the worst in the screen. But we have to agree, he's not the worst person in the story, just the one who was in the role of the antagonist for longer. Let's not forget that Vorona was a killer by choice. Anyway, he's a interesting character. His main motivation is his interest in human behaviour. Also his relationship with death and afterlife is very interesting to me as well

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hela-avenger · 4 years

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poison & wine- part 20

Author: hela-avenger

Word Count: 1664

Summary: Prince Loki of Asgard is in need of a date to take back home. That’s where you come in with a task of your own to make the whole trip with an insufferable prince worth it. Too bad that things don’t always go as planned and you end up giving more than you can take. Fake-Dating AU.

A/N: Thanks for reading and commenting everyone! Please send me a message/ask if you’ll like to be tagged!

poison & wine masterlist

You were putting the final touches on Loki’s shirt when the doors swing open. Loki comes rushing in, out of breath, quickly tugging his leather coat off. The girls are startled by the act but it doesn’t dissuade the prince from undressing.

“Ladies,” Loki greets as he tugs off his vest next. “Unless you would like to catch a show, I suggest you make yourself scarce.”

“Loki!” you shout in alarm but he simply grins in response and shrugs.

The girls had been in the midst of doing your hair which they quickly finished up at Loki’s insistence. Lynn and Datya were trying to suppress their giggling while Iana looked stressed.

“My lady,” she calls out to you. “We are meant to help you get ready for the banquet.”

“She won’t need your assistance,” Loki answers for you as he perched himself on the edge of his bed. His shirt was partly undone revealing a hint of his bare chest. “I can lend my dear lady a hand.”

Iana doesn’t look up to meet your stare. Her focus remains on the floor. She gives you a nod and finally takes her leave closing the doors behind her.

The moment you’re alone you turn towards the prince.

“Was that really necessary?” you ask him. You’re trying to be serious but he’s making it hard as he grins up at you. “Do you know what you just did?”

“Giving them the impression that I’m here to ravish you?” Loki chuckles out as he resumes to unbutton his shirt. “Yes, indeed I did. It was my entire intention.”

He peels off his shirt and you quickly turn away from him.

“But why?”

“Keeping up with the pretenses,” Loki explains as he approaches your seat on his vanity. “You do recall we are faking to be in love and with love comes passion… desire...” You feel his breath on your ear as he leans in next to you. “...lust.”

You shiver and elbow him away from you.

“I uh… I really don’t know how you want me to respond to that.”

Loki shrugs and takes a step away from you. Your reaction to his words hadn’t gone unseen by him.

“Have you ever been physically intimate with someone?”

You stab yourself with the needle at his question.

“Ow, what the…” you press the small bleeding wound to your lips. The small sour taste of iron filling your tongue. “Why are you asking me that?”

“Curiosity,” Loki answers simply as he stares at you through the mirror. “Come on. You can tell me. We’re friends now.”

You shake your head at him but saw no harm in giving him an answer.

“Not that it matters, but yes I have,” you tell him as your focus returns to his shirt.

“Hmm,” Loki hums. “Did you sleep with that soldier of yours?”

You glare at him in response.

“I take that as a no,” Loki grins. “How come?”

You hesitate to answer him this time.

You had been surprisingly quite vulnerable with him in this trip but your history with Bucky was something meant just for you and him. You don’t even think Steve knew how deep your connection with him really was.

“I uh… I’ve had my string of lovers in the past centuries,” you explain to the prince. “But only because of moments of weakness when I crave companionship. It was all physical though. Nothing ever extended to an emotional level.”

“But the soldier was different?”

You knot the emerald string before cutting it. The shirt was finally done with every embroidered detail in place.

“The soldier indeed was different,” you answer as you turn to look at him. “Bucky and I, we were companions in a bloody war. It was hard not to get emotionally involved especially since he was just so charming. And we danced and kissed and… I know we both wanted more but we knew better than to get too attached. We were right in the end seeing as he was killed… or well not killed. You know what I mean...”

“Sounds like you loved him.”

You shrug hesitant to agree.

“It was the closest thing I’ve ever gotten to being in love,” you confess. “It was nice.”

You stand up from your vanity and present to him the shirt you had dedicated yourself to make for him.

“Have you ever been in love?” you ask as you present the shirt for him to put on. He tenses up at the question.

“No, I have not,” Loki answers as he buttons his shirt up. “I am a man who needs order and love… well love seems like a chaotic emotion to have.”

You hum in response as you fixed his collar. You hope to catch sight of a scar but his back is still under an illusion he conjured. Loki doesn’t notice your curiosity as he inspects the shirt in surprise.

“You did all of this?” he asks as he takes in his reflection in the mirror. The shirt was a simple white button down but you had embroidered two green snakes entangled by gold thorns on the collar. “By hand?”

“Yeah,” you answer, happy that all your work paid off. “I did.”

You take in your work yourself and are relieved to see that it wouldn’t need any last minute adjustments.

“Fits perfectly,” Loki comments.

“It does,” you answer. “The girls were making their own replicas. Iana managed to finish the black one but Lynn and Datya left scraps of the green one. I can have those shirts finished and embroidered by tomorrow if you like.”

“If you feel the need then why not,” Loki responds as he continues to appraise his reflection. “Good job, pet.”

“Don’t call me pet,” you snap at him as you enter the closet to pull out a gown for you to wear. Loki was basically ready for the banquet while you had much to do yourself seeing as your help was sent away. “Did you find anything about my dad today while communing with the royal court?”

“I’ve asked around,” Loki sighs out. “Unsurprising, they all had no clue of what I was referring to.”

You step out of the closet with a dress of your choosing this time. Loki is once again taken by surprise and you chuckle.

“Take a picture, it’ll last longer.”

Instead of dishing it back to you, Loki just nods.

“Asgardian fashion suits you,” he responds quickly clearing his throat and turning away from you. “I have something for you to wear.”

You scowl trying to figure out what he could possibly have for you. He pulls his leather coat on which seems to bring back the mischievous Loki you are used to dealing with.

“Come on, we’re friends now,” Loki motions you forward. “I’m not going to do anything to you.”

“You’re a really demanding friend,” you mutter under your breath as you make your way towards him. “What do you have for me?”

Loki reveals a sheath meant to house the dagger he had yet to give to you. You frown at the sight of the ugly hanging leather strap that you were meant to wear as a purse.

“That is hideous.”

“Well, you have to wear it,” Loki mutters as he tries to hand it to you.

“Can’t I wear one of those thigh strap-on thingies?” you offer as you avoid taking it. “Like the one Natasha wears?”

Loki sighs as he thinks it over but the dagger had to be visible which meant you would have to be willing to show it.

“I know what you’re referring to but it is quite scandalous.”

“Isn’t that what I’m here for?” you answer. “To rile people up? Especially your father?”

Loki chuckles in agreement and with a shift of his hands the sheath in his hands shifts into the one you wanted.

“Perfect!” you exclaim as you shift your leg out of the slit the dress had. “So I’ll just…”

“Allow me,” Loki interrupts you as he kneels down beside you.

You still as his hands gently wrap the leather thigh strap around you. Your skin erupts into goosebumps and you hold your breath as Loki tightens it to your comfort.

You're surprised the man can be gentle but you shouldn’t be. In your fake courtship, Loki has managed to be gentle when it came to you even more so now that you two seemed to be on the same page.

“You’ll have to be careful,” he tells you as he stands. “The dagger is quite sharp. One wrong move in placing it in your sheath and you will harm yourself quite seriously.”

“Right,” you swallow as you try to be unaffected by him. “Speaking of the dagger, where is it?”

“With me,” Loki answers.

“Can I see it?” you ask as you pat his jacket down for a clue.

The leather made it hard to feel if anything was there and Loki is quick to put your investigation to an end as he grabs a hold of your wandering hands.

“No.”

“Why not?” you pout. “You’re wearing the shirt I made and I can’t wear my dagger?”

“It’s meant to be a gift,” Loki states as he peered down at you. “I have to present it to the royal court first before I can give it to you. Royal traditions and what not.”

You’re still pouting at his explanation and he wonders if that has ever helped you get your way. It seems to almost be working on him when a knock on the door pulls his attention away.

“It’s time for us to go,” Loki states as he lets your hands go. He hadn’t realized he still had them pinned against his chest. “You ready?”

You nod knowing there was no point in trying to decipher his recent behavior change. You simply chalk it up to his newfound attempt of being your friend.

“As ready as I’ll ever be.”

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livingforloki · 3 years

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!LOKI SPOILERS!

what are your opinions/thoughts/feelings on the Sylvie/Loki relationship?

Hey anon, I was waiting a while to post this so that I wouldn't be adding any spoilers to the dash! Thank you for being so patient!

In terms of Loki as a show I wasn't entirely invested, I'm not a big fan of time travel, and alternate universes being introduced late in a story or a franchise always feels like a cheap plot device to me. I only really enjoy them when they're established as a part of the universe from the very, very beginning. So because of this (and Endgame in general) I didn't begin watching Loki with the same enthusiasm I might once have had. I don't know if that affected my viewing in terms of being emotionally attached to the characters and their pairings, but I found Loki and Sylvie to be incredibly uncomfortable.

They had an entire conversation about sharing the same parents, so the romance felt forced, and not so vaguely incestuous. I cringed throughout their entire development, and every time they kissed I had to repress a shudder. In shows like GOT, the incest is treated as incest. You're supposed to feel uncomfortable. But I feel like there was no true acknowledgement in this show that Loki was essentially in love with another physical form of himself. They even made sure to change her name, and I don't think that was to avoid confusion. I think that was to partially draw attention away from the fact that she is Loki. A few jokes were made but jokes are not the same as sincere acknowledgement. Jokes play it off a funny, and casual, and it wasn't either of these things. It was just plain weird. Marvel would rather have a character date themself, than show an LGBTQ+ relationship on screen. All I wanted was for Loki to find a non binary, gender fluid, or male identifying love interest. Something new, and refreshing. Instead we got something creepy, and gross. If I didn't have to keep up with every element of Marvel due to the stories being interconnected, I would definitely forgo season 2.

I had issues with Loki on a whole due to his characterisation being taken from Ragnarok rather than the first Thor film, and Avengers Assemble (which is the Loki we were supposed to be seeing), but my friend pointed out that wasn't the only issue. He's consistently accused of being a narcissist when, if you watch Thor and really pay attention to Loki's character, all he ever asks for is reasonable, and deserved, aside from his desire for power which doesn't stem from narcissism but from the childhood trauma of being neglected. Loki learning to love himself was made tacky, and shallow by the forced, and unnatural romantic love. If he had developed a sibling-like bond with Sylvie, their platonic/familial love could still have created a rift. But it would have been innocent, and pure, and feel like character growth. The incessant need to force romantic pairings is something Marvel desperately needs to work on. Not every character needs a love interest, and not every male character needs a hetero relationship.

#loki #sylvie #loki and sylvie #loki odinson #loki laufeyson #anon

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worstloki · 4 years

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Fic idea: Loki mermaid AU with literally any plot except merfolk are canonically genderfluid (inspired by this one post about genderfluid merfolk in trending tumblr wont let me link it)

I can’t find the post but I’m jumping on the gender-fluid merfolk bandwagon so thank you for that :D

- plot? what plot?

- okay so instead of falling off the bifrost or whatever odin dumps both his male princes manly sons #patriarchy on earth to learn some lessons in humility/obedience but to avoid the two of them working together he’s left thor as a human on earth and dumped loki into the water as a half-fish (thanks, odin)

- thor bumps into jane and darcy and erik except when he can’t lift the hammer he’s decided to go reunite with loki (because loki always knows what to do - he’ll know what to do about the hammer and how to get father to accept them back!) and they help him set up an ID and stuff for himself after jane realizes the guy has very limited knowledge about the wormhole he fell through.

- thor struggles with getting a job and working hard to be able to work on-board a cruising agency. he learns to work hard for what he wants, he waits tables and makes beds and no one lets him near the cooking but he washes dishes and everything else on-board the R.D. Stark, while always keeping an eye on his map and which parts of the ocean they’ve gone over and not found loki on, because he totally believes loki would be trying to get to him and staying near the surface just like he is.

- loki though? nope. not even trying to get back. he knows thor is out there and he believes odin will accept his heir back eventually, but himself? yeah he figured out what happened, its obvious he was either abandoned/stolen and actually a jotun, so as far as he’s concerned being stuck as a mermaid is an upgrade. not to mention mermaids don’t have gender roles so he can go around following his interests and doing whatever he wants (he’s considered a juvenile mermaid and gets adopted by the collective mermaid community) and he can switch genders freely and no one judges loki for it. he’s happy down here exploring and learning and the ocean is a huge place to explore and he’s got a knack for learning ocean magic (odin didnt remove his magic he removed his knowledge of magic so he cant use it without relearning everything) and he’s even got friends now (more on this later)

- The Avengers left as humans are Tony Thor and Clint, where Tony is still Tony, and Clint and him work for SHIELD and the real reason they hired Thor was because SHIELD has been keeping an eye on the guy claiming to be an alien deity since trying to lift the hammer... they get close to Thor and with the amount of tales this guy has to tell and the way his eyes water when he talks about his brother they’re starting to believe him... and now Stark is helping cover the areas on the maps they haven’t covered and he’s built sonars to pick up on ‘mermaid’ if they really are underwater somewhere...

- The Avengers left as mermaids are Steve (found frozen the mermaids found him and converted him with ocean magic), Natasha (Budapest mission with Clint gone wrong she drowned in the Denube...) and Bruce (a bullet didn’t work but surely the hulk couldn’t breathe underwater?... anyways now he’s a mermaid and into water calming meditation and stuff and the hulk is just him but green and doubled in size but he keeps the tail) and they’ve been a part of the mermaid community for a while but they’re barely passing as adults even steve at 100 because mermaids are long-lived oKay so they’re a group that goes exploring and fights capitalist sea monsters and stuff

- thor learns to show when he cares and to value lives of even lesser races like humans and fish creatures when his friends are in danger (tony and clint probably started drowning in the on-cruise pool or something smh) while loki learns self worth and that identity isnt based on material things like gender or what services you can offer another (probably after he profusely apologizes for not being perfect and preventing something in a fight?)

- the sound waves tony’s sonar has? yeah its messing with the beings that live deep underwater including the mermaids (ouchie ears hurtie) and some ancient sea monster they’ve waken up with tony’s powerful tech (cthulhu is that u??)

- anyways loki and co. turn up to fight the monster while its attacking thor and co. and then the day is saved through teamwork and mermaids singing (okay, steve and loki singing, because they’ve got good voices and nat can only sing in russian...) the monster to sleep by projecting their voices into tony’s sonar machine.

- then you’ve got the reunion and thor learns loki never intended to go back to asgard because he thinks he has nothing there... the mermaids are staying on the cruise pool because Clint and Nat need to have a talk too because Clint was blaming himself for her death and maybe there’s some emotions there (they’re friends but also clint doesnt have a family in this AU) ? nat has learnt to be more expressive and clint is so so happy for her... thor does NOT want to leave his brother he doesnt care if he’s jotun he just wants to be with his brother... tony meets steve and is like ‘woah ur the guy my dad had the hots for’ and they get along and tony’s kinda curious about underwater tech? tony mentions the winter soldier and suddenly steve loved living underwater but he doesnt care if the world has moved on he has to go see bucky-- but, oh? what’s this? Tony is offering to bring his parent’s killer to steve? he understands the brainwashing doesnt leave the man responsible? Tony has learnt to be down to earth? by spending time making genuine friends for the sake of making friends? he’s gotten emotionally attached? he’s learnt empathy through watching thor;s love for his brother and watching clint melt at seeing nat alive?

- anyways thor and clint decide to stick with their respective merfolk (thor doesnt care if it means giving up asgard’s throne he just wants his brother to be happy and if that means changing genders and living underwater and being appreciated for magic thor would happily trade the throne for that) (all clint had was shield anyways and nat? she was a friend he’d trade the world for even years later) steve wants to turn human and go to bucky but tony brings bucky to him with a hit on the noggin and after some time in wakanada™. OH I didn’t mention that Tony absolutely freaks out when he finds out BRUCE BANNER the legend himself is underwater too... Tony totally gets VIP membership and can switch between human and merman now... because he helped ‘unite many broken souls’ or something... hmm... Stark Industries Underwater Division sounds nice....hmm........

- everyone lives happily ever after and odin chokes on his mead when he tries to check on thor’s progress and finds him and loki happily together adventuring actually getting along

#ngl odin had probably planned on retrieving thor and leaving loki on earth for a while #since the mermaids are long lived he could've ignored him for a few centuries #anyways jokes on odin because in this AU loki and thor act like actually brothers who care for each other #even if loki thinks it'd be better for thor to forget him

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