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lemonhemlock · 4 months

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not sure if you've talked about this before, but what do you make of the whole "alicent was wrong to question the boys' parentage because it would mean their deaths"? ive tried considering it but im personally not convinced by it, that is im not convinced that it would automatically mean their deaths if their bastardry was publicly acknowledged by viserys and confessed to by rhaenyra and harwin. another reason why it doesnt really change my mind is that even if it was true... its like ok? therefore you must think viserys is in the wrong for wanting to mutilate anyone, children included btw, who says the boys are harwin's bastards. the thing is though i don't see team black saying that, instead its something they are usually happy about. they also ignore the fact that rhaenyra would have understood that this would happen, and yet she has two more children after jace. the thing is ultimately i dont believe the boys executed for something beyond their control that goes without saying lmao. but the fact of the matter is that alicent trying to have viserys admit the truth before his death, while the boys were young (or younger lol) would have been the kindest and safest thing! because if instead jace had ascended the throne as an adult, and been overthrown, he and his brothers would have been executed for committing treason. the mercy they would have gotten as children wouldn't really apply here.

I think that a solution could have been worked out if the truth came out when the boys were little. Death is a very extreme sentence. At the end of the day, Daemon should have been executed or exiled 24 times for his shenanigans, but Viserys always forgave him and nobody said a goddamn thing about it. At least in this particular case, the wrongs could have been rectified (which is more to say than for whatever nonsense Daemon did) - the boys taken out of the line of succession, both of the throne and of Driftmark. If you ask me, it would be only fair to disqualify Rhaenyra from being heir as a result of her attempted treachery, and that would be that. She'd still be a rich lady with a fire-breathing dragon and three alive sons and could have lived out her housewife fantasies in peace - there's no need to boohoohoo her. But, as a more indulgent outcome, it could have also worked if she remained heir, with Aegon (or his children) inheriting after her (since she obviously wasn't interested in producing trueborn children of her own with Laenor).

But, you know what, anything that happens is because of Rhaenyra's own hubris. To give a crude example, it's like saying, I robbed these three banks but I never expected to be caught and go to jail, then asking for sympathy. ?? Why do you keep having these children if you're literally so preoccupied with their safety?

#ask #anon #anti rhaenyra targaryen

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herstarburststories · 3 years

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He didn’t make it to 42

Pairing: Dean Winchester x reader

Summary: it’s Dean’s birthday, you go to visit him with some news and things that need to be said.

A/N: Happy bday, De.

Warnings: so much angst, mentions of sex, hopeful/happy ending (?)

Dean’s dead. It’s Dean’s birthday and he’s dead. You can’t argue much.

Sam denied the demon blood inside him, and that didn’t stop its evil nature from growing and gasping for his fresh air to the point he was almost shocked alive. Dean denied his dad’s destructive methods’ results for the longest time, and that didn’t stop the cicatrixes in every emotion he had ever shown. You denied the absence of Dean and that didn’t stop the bricks cracking in your soul. There’s only so far you can go with your eyes closed.

So here you are. Standing in front of an empty grave. You are bigger than the dull tombstone, yet you can’t help but not to feel tall, at all. How can you even start to talk? Talking to Dean used to be easy even when it got hard and now you’re feeling like a lost kid in a supermarket. Your snide thinking spells out his name with venom, saying it isn’t easy for you to open your barmy mouth and spill out contrarian shit because this isn’t Dean, just another meaningless symbolism that Sam promises that will help. The real Dean died almost a year ago, he was burned in a hunter’s funeral, the flames dancing over his body as the smell of burnt meat invaded your nostrils. Whenever you try to remember his fragrance, that manly aroma which you loved to scent each morning, all your brain can come up with is the odor of his skin and guts burning. The smell lingers like bad perfume, it doesn’t matter how many times you wash yourself with his soap-- that only broke your heart worse.

But today is Dean’s birthday. He deserves a visit, even if it’s not him. Then you go and attempt to deal with the desolation, push it away just a little, and pick up something from the enormous pile of things you wish to tell Dean. You glance at the cold tombstone: Dean Winchester. 1979 - 2020. Beloved son, big brother, and husband. Hunter. A hero. Simple definitions that can never make it up for who he was and what he meant. You purse your lips and cough a little, a gentle wind touches your cheek so tenderly. If you were still a believer, you’d think this is some sort of sign, Dean’s presence or some other pious hoax. All you do now is to remain in quietude, a deep breath. Ultimately, your voice comes:

‘’You didn’t make it to forty two, huh?’’ You scoff humorless, reminiscing to the multiple days that Dean said he wouldn’t go past 35. He did live each year like it was the last--- you aren’t sure if it's such a good thing. If you carry on like your days are outnumbered, you are silently entertaining yourself until death's knock on your door. ‘’I always hated when you were right. Let’s be honest, you had the words of a pessimist and the wants of an optimist. Still, if you were to be right about something, it would be about a bad situation. A nest with too many vampires, how crappy the motel’s bedroom would be, or how that third glass of wine would make me tipsy. So yeah, I always hated when you were right. And look at you now! You aren’t right, you aren’t wrong. You are dead! And I’m the crazy girl screaming at an empty tombstone.’’

You let out a laugh empty of joy. That’s how a hunter’s life is: you die and people stop talking about you because it’s too sad or too long gone to hold any pity, meanwhile the ones who recall about you go loud with all the spirits in their heads. You put your hand in the pockets of the heavy leather jacket that once belonged to a green eyed man who would be turning 42 today, some strange force causing you to speak again.

‘’Wow.’’ You shake your head to the blue way you paint the scene until you notice that you never greeted him. ‘’Hey.’’ The simple word adds a comical insult to injury. ‘’Guess the dead don’t care about manners, huh?’’ You arch your eyebrows with a grin that demonstrates anything but happiness. ‘’Miracle died. Sam digged a hole next to the bunker and buried him there. He isn’t the same since you died, you know? Not the deceased dog-- Well, he wasn’t the same either. Always whining and scratching your door like a fucking cat, and sniffing your old boots. He made me company in your bed and I whined as much as he did when you didn’t come back home that day. He stood by the door most days, waiting for you to appear. I can’t judge him, I did the same.’’ You shrug, not caring about how risible that confession may look. It's true. You became as irrational as a loyal dog at some point in this sorrow. ‘’And Sam, your baby brother… I think he died with you right there, Dean. He didn’t try to bring you back as he promised, but I shouted and screamed so much. I said I would burn the bunker and throw Baby over a cliff if he didn’t-- if he didn’t let me try. I lived up to the mad woman title.’’

You are crestfallen, pacing on top of where the eldest Winchester - Sam’s brand new nomination - supposedly was buried. You know your boots barely touch an infected land, there's no deceased man under your steps. The dead thing is in you.

‘’I spent days dragging your body everywhere and nowhere, anywhere I could catch a crumb of relief in hope to bring you back. But I couldn’t. Jack could, but that ungrateful idiot doesn’t wanna follow his grandpa steps and get too attached to mere humans, the creation or whatever. As if we are just some skin and bone to him, as if you are just another human.’’

You sit down on the tombstone, some tender solace in being close to a thing that's supposed to represent him, like sleeping hugged to a pillow or waking up to a photograph of his. Your nails sink against the gelid concrete at the thought of screaming into the sky for the new God that seemed as deaf as the last one. His calm answer to your burning pain. How he dared to tell you he knew what he was doing— as if he was the original lord and not a three years old. You can't make him do it, so you hold on the fury of some overthrown nation.

‘’Anyway, I couldn’t bring you back. Your body, well, you know how human anatomy works. Your body started to smell like death. We tried to stop with human and magic ways, and it wouldn’t work because you were dead. You should’ve seen the doctor’s face when we got you in that fancy hospital tha night. I think we traumatized the doctor with so much violence and trauma. She didn’t even give us a false hope or anything, you know? She just asked about organ donation of what was left. She just wanted to take every little thing out of you, as if you were just another accident on a Tuesday night.’’ Your shake your head as the memories and your points start to mix, it's hard to discern things and keep a straight line when you have an open wound in your insides. ‘’Well, they couldn’t bring you back to life, and neither could Rowena or whatever I looked for. Don’t be mad because I tried, Winchester. You know I’m too stubborn for my own good. I had to try.’’ you refuse to apologize, yet adds the playful words in his eulogy. ‘’But then your body started to stink and God, how could I continue to be so violent to your corpse? That was when I decided to listen to you for the first time and to Sam, so I let you go. I hate you for asking that.’’ What an ambiguous, contradictory truth to bare. You are glimpses of a person for months because of Dean Winchester, still have the energy to argue his selfless logic, just to love him even more. He's got your devotion, but man you can hate him sometimes. ‘’I hate you for going on that stupid hunt. I hate you for being dead, you giant idiot that I love so much.’’ You can't bring your mouth to say loved. "I was always telling you to let the past go and now I’m in love with a dead thing. What a comic way to end our history. I told you that Miracle died, right? I don’t know if dogs go to heaven, but I hope he’s in there with you. I wonder what your heaven is like. I bet it has Whiskey.''

Your dry chuckle makes your notice the tears in your eyes, glistening your orbs as they go like a waterfall to be absorbed by the thirsty land after leaving your cheeks.

"Sam and I-- We tried to make some sense out of this cruelty, but we can’t. You are dead and I can’t seem to put it past me. I still sleep in your bed, and I can still taste your body burning on the roof of my mouth in the quiet nights. I cried this morning because someone asked for a burger, can you believe that? It was so stupid since I used to shake my head and argue with you about cholesterol. Suddenly I was crying at lunch in a restaurant because some stupid kid asked for a burger with extra bacon. They sang Happy birthday to this dumbass child, and I interrupted with my awful crying, and wished that you were celebrating your birthday and not that kid. I guess you could say I wish death upon an innocent child with a problematic eating routine.’’ That was a whole new level of low, as if you are the one wrapped with the sentiment of laying six feet under.

‘’Everyone tells you about how grief is singular and particular with similar emotions that bring people who went through this together. They even have that crap stages thing and all that. You know what they don’t tell you?’’ Your mouth shuts for a moment, like you are waiting some response. You nod as if whatever you were expecting is handed to you. ‘’Grief can be fucking ridiculous. Who cries because of a burger full of oil and cardiac diseases? Who cries because they found a grocery store recipe under her dead boyfriend’s bed? Who falls on the ground screaming in the middle of the mall because they saw a flannel? Who? Those things are so stupid.’’ You smile like there's no tomorrow and the laugh leaving your lips is a treacherous tone. Perhaps you just aren't build up to express joy anymore. ‘’You see it in the movies and in the books and you think, you know, you think to yourself that grieving is being sad on special dates and randomly remembering the loved ones because of some screaming memory, like a flannel or their perfume. Thing is, it’s not just that. All your body seems so small, so tight for all the ache and agony inside it. Your senses go wild, you are not just one person in one place. You’re just the pain everywhere, like being pulled apart and you beg to jump in the fucking grave with them. At least you would be together, at least you would feel like one person and not suffering edges of a broken earthy thing. And--And you start remembering things you didn’t even know you had mesmerized. I look at the ceiling and remember you saying you’d paint it someday. I look at the kitchen and remember me screaming at you for giving Miracle the rest of the food. I smell Sam’s clothes and started crying because hey, they don’t smell like alcohol. You don’t iron them while drinking anymore, so of course they don’t smell like cheap beer.’’ You are chuckling through the tears and it only makes it more monstrous. ‘’Everything is you now that you are gone. Every man has something similar to you, every garden is green as your eyes, and each step sounds like you are coming home. They didn’t prepare me, not for this.’’ You said breathless. A soft single follows. The knife cuts both ways; the empty breeze and the words hurt. Where's the middle term? Where's the limbo? Where's the only safe place for you to rest your weary head?

Out of nowhere, you blurt out, ‘’I can’t masturbate,’’ I know it’s something stupid and even selfish to say, but I think you’d like to know. I can’t masturbate. That’s a part of the whole losing someone process that people are too ashamed to discuss, or maybe they don’t have the urge to be touched anymore because after someone you love dies, after someone-- the hands who touched are dead and cold, you become a haunted object. That’s how I feel most days, like I’m a haunted house because you touched me and now you’re dead and some days I believe I am too.’’ You look around the places. It's beautiful. It's lonely. It has trees and flowers and green. Not as green as Dean's eyes, but it doesn't matter anymore. He doesn't even have eyes at this point. ‘’Well, I can’t masturbate. I can’t touch myself. And I can’t ask someone else either. I tried and ended up punching the guy, Dean. I swear. I panicked when he was between my legs and just punched his nose. You’d have liked it, you were always the jealous kind. I won’t admit that, but I thought it was kinda hot. Especially when you got possessive in sex.’’ A dirty grin appeared on your lips, the echoes of luxury lasting in your eyes for a brief moment. ‘’I don’t think I can be cared for anymore, honestly. Sam tried to hug me when Miracle died and I… It was like I wasn't there. I got frozen in time, and I live in my sleep. In my nightmares you are alive. I dream about the day you died every week and I used to wake up screaming, but now those nightmares are the only proof you were alive now that you’re as dead as the police report says this time. It was the most painful, calamitous moment for you and I swear it was a nightmare for me, but then I realized that at least I had you there, egoistical or not, I made my nightmare into a dream.’’ You aren't sure which opinion Dean would have on that. Would he understand? Would he shake his head? You wish you can ask him just this one more thing, just beg him to write it down for you on how to be without him here.

You raise on your feet, glaring at the name craved in the concrete. The tears go by still, although they're as usual as the blood in glir veins at this point. ‘’Death is so silly. What it takes, anyway?" Each word conquers more inches of pure wrath. ''People die because they stumbled on their own feet and hit their head somewhere, or they drove their car too close and too fast to the cliff, or because they were giving birth, or because they dated the wrong person, or because they were hunting a fucking vampire and got impaled. What are the chances? How stupid, and idiotic is death? Always creeping and waiting to bite and chew a piece of you-- Taking every scrap of you from me like that’s its right.’’ You are screaming, starting to kick and punch the tombstone with any piece of straight you have. Your limbs hurt and the blood is visible, but you keep going. ‘’YOUR STUPID DOG DIED, DEAN! AND YOU DIED! AND I DIED! SAMMY DIED! YEAH, IS SAID SAMMY! GO AHEAD, TELL ME ONLY YOU CAN CALL HIM THAT.’’ Another punch, your knuckles are ripped. Another kick, your boot as a hole. ‘’DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.’’ Kick. ‘’SAMMY, SAMMY, SAMMY!’’ A punch to each name. Anything to get a reaction, to get comfort. Anything. ‘’YOU CAN’T BECAUSE YOU ARE DEAD.’’ Gasping for something you don't need anymore, sweet oxygen, your eyes are on the tombstone again. And the definitions. And the trees. Your body is sore and aching. It is the kind and coercion no person wants which you needed; the freedom of feeling outside the exact pain that was inside. ‘’You can’t because you are dead. I’ve been playing some sick games in my mind, you know? Sam stopped hunting and had his closure. He was always better at letting go than you and I, but he’s still hurting. I never saw him hurting so much. I think he knows you won’t come back this time, how could you make us promise something like that? Well, my twisted game is a bunch of misleading what ifs. What if you hadn’t gone after John? What if you hadn’t gone on that last hunt? What if you had stayed with Lisa? At first I didn’t like her much. Jealous, I admit that. But she grew on me. She gave you something I couldn’t back then and I’ll always be thankful for that. And even though it would rip me apart, I’d rather you to die at sixth after living your suburban dream with her. Have another kid besides Ben, maybe a girl this time, and just have that apple pie life. You and Sam would live close and your kids would always play. They’d be as close as brothers. Maybe I’d get a guy and bring my own kids and we could’ve a barbecue and everyone would be happy. But we don’t get soft epilogues here. It ends how it starts, right? Bloody and desperate. I thought maybe, maybe Lisa could understand what’s going through my head now. I drove to her new address and parked close to her house. I must have spent hours there, thinking if I should come in or not, If she somehow remembered after Castiel died or if I could make her brain work again if I told her the truth. But then I just drove back home and fell asleep wrapped in that stupid lumberjack flannel of yours. The one I always mocked, yeah? She may understand me, but I know you wouldn’t want that. You want her, you want me and Sam to be happy. I don’t know if I can do that, Dean. It’s like myt brittle soul shrewd and my body is just waiting to collapse.’’ You signed, overwhelmed by the battle without an anthem. The victory with no triumph. Is it still a win when you don't have someone to come home too? ‘’Your dog died, it’s the first birthday you didn’t live to see, and I bought all the things you told Mrs Butters you wanted for your birthday because it’s your birthday. I just don’t know how to celebrate it with you dead. People stop counting after they die, right? They just say he’d have been 42 or he died at 41. They give melancholy smiles when they wake up and check the day on their phones and a woe atmosphere swallows them for the rest of the day. Then they get better the next day. I think everyday is your birthday.’’ You attempt to wipe away your tears, which only causes your pulsating hand to stain your face red. ‘’Dean, for the first time, what died stayed dead! Congrats.’’ Once again, a hysterical laugh. ‘’I wish but no. What died didn’t stay dead, you are alive, so alive in my head. I swear you are there some days. I wake and watch the door, so sure you’ll come back. Sam says I’m living in delusion and I have to wake up and keep going since that's what you would want. That's enough to make him keep going, but it only makes me angry. Everyone we know and some strangers looks at me like I'm a house on fire and no longer a warm home, like I'm a car accident. They think I don't notice but I do.’’ You look at your boots, the whole is rolling out blood like your hands. You feel closer to Dean. How sick.

‘’Help, I’m still right where you left me." You plea, his love lingering like a bruise. ''I think gravity is overwhelming and it keeps me here. Sometimes it’s like I’m one of those dusted books Sam used to read. Or those Bukowski ones that you hid, so we wouldn’t see how smart you’re. You tried so hard to hide your intelligence because you didn’t think you were entitled to it. You saw yourself as the protector and never the valuable one for protection. You, the man who made an EMF out of an old radio, who rebuilt the Impala from the ground multiple times, and who knew patterns better than any detective. The man who showed me I could rely on someone other than myself. The dude with a lopsided grin, tough hands and a heart of gold. I miss you so much. If I didn’t know better, I’d think you were singing all those classic rock songs and Taylor Swift pop hits, while I drove here. I would think you were home, smelling like guts because you wanted to eat before taking a shower after a hunt. I would think that you are in the Deancave, waiting for me to curl up on your lap to watch Scooby Doo or Doctor Sexy MD until we aren’t watching anymore. If I didn’t know better I would think no death could take you from me. There would be no tear us apart in our vows.’’ The only thing that keeps your organism working is that Dean died knowing how much you loved him. You never let this talk for later or never. No tomorrow is promised. That's a nice comfort, maybe that's what will help you to let go in the future. ‘’But yesterday your stupid, skink dog died and I lost the last living thing that I had from you. You know what’s more angerting? I cried and Sam cried and I noticed we were the living things you left behind and all we have is each other. All your closets of backlogged dreams were left for us-- so yeah. Sam is done hunting and he’s met a lovely girl, and they are moving in like in your domestic dreams. I’m taking care of the family business like your other contradictory dream and making sure Sam is safe enough to be normal. Because I have to, we have too. Stupidly enough, I still wait for the day you’ll burst out the door and tell us to hit the road again. I still watch every episode of your dumb tv shows to make sure I’ll know everything that happened when you ask. I still drive around in your car and close my eyes when the street is calm, only picturing you driving as Baby’s engineers go wild but those are my hands on the steering wheel. If I didn't know better, I’d think you are still around. But I know better. I still feel you all around. I love you.’’

Your monologuing ends as astutely as it stated. You get up, press a kiss to your ruined for the next weeks hands and place it on the rock with writings. You turn around and walk back to the car that you parked near, only in case of Dean wanting to see Baby. How knows? You and your clandestine faith. You lick your lip and get in the car.

You swear you the AC/DC cassette wasn't there before, but when you turn on the car and the radio it starts playing. It's the first true smile that comes to your mouth, it's bloodstained and you look like a shameless woman. With that you can deal.

It hurts a bearable hurt for now. You didn't think it was possible. Maybe someday.

The end.

(she takes a little longer to arive in heaven than sammy. his baby brother says that women are most likely to live around six years more than men. it doesn't ease him up, though. dean waited sam for too long, his platonic soulmate. and now he has to wait his romantic one too? the eldest Winchester considers it the best earthly present when the he sense you around, that smell of orange and apples. it's you, he knows before even turning around. he can't wait to love you again. your name rolls off your tongue so naturally, as if you had seen each other just yesterday: ‘’hey, y/n.’’)

But then again, nothing ever really ends, does it?

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Starburst's footnote: It just didn't feel right to make an author's note on the top. I wanted it all only to be an arrow to the story. So, this is my side note: it's six am and I'm up writing this after inspiration kissed me with a bruise in the middle of the night. Or more like grabbed my throat. Anyway, I had to write and finish this one to post today, even pushing sleep aside. Hey, we are writers, that's what we do! I've been watching the show since I was eleven and I cried like a baby with the finale. This series was just so important and crucial to molde aspects of relationships for me. The song marjorie by Taylor Swift was used here, and so was the line "you got my devotion/ but man, I can hate you sometimes" by Harry Styles. I told you guys I would use it somewhere! A special thanks to @msmarvelouswinchester who helped me with her encouraging and opinon. You are the best! And with all of this I wanna say: Happy bday, Dean Winchester!

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winterskywrites · 3 years

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how about combining bad batch and reinvent love? what happens to the bad batch in your au?

The regs all go weird on Kaller. Hunter isn’t quite sure what’s the matter with them, but Tech says it’s some sort of programming, and he trusts Tech to know what he’s talking about. Tech also says he thinks the five of them are immune.

In that respect, Tech is wrong.

They flee Kamino with Omega and without Crosshair. It’s not right for them to leave one of their own behind, and Hunter can feel the tension in the air, but there was nothing else they could have done. They’ll go back for Crosshair eventually, but now, it would be suicide. They’ll have to wait for the right moment.

And then, the day after they leave, a message goes out to all clone troopers on the same official channel that the first strange order came through on. “Order 66 is revoked,” Anakin Skywalker tell the galaxy. “All clone troopers, stand down, and report to your commanding officer immediately.”

“Do we believe him?” Tech asks Hunter warily.

“No,” Hunter says, shaking his head. He liked General Skywalker when they worked with him before, but he doesn’t trust him with this. It could be a trap to lure in any defectors, like themselves, and now they have a child to protect. “We’re not going back.”

They go to visit Cut and Suu instead, since Cut is the only deserter they’ve ever met who’s been able to actually avoid getting caught. Saleucami isn’t very different under the new Empire than it was under the Republic, and the Lawquane family is much the same as ever. Apparently, they’ve missed Rex by a day, and Hunter can see the mingled relief and disappointment on Echo’s face. At least he’s alive and apparently unaffected by whatever’s happening to most of the regs. Hunter keeps a close eye on Cut, but he doesn’t seem to be affected either.

While Omega plays with Jek and Shaeeah, Cut and Suu fill Hunter and the others in on some things that have happened since they fled Kamino. Apparently, the Chancellor-turned-Emperor has been overthrown and revealed to be a traitor who spent the whole Clone Wars playing both sides against each other, and rumor has it that Senator Amidala will be taking his throne as the new Galactic Empress. Hunter has always liked Senator Amidala, and she’s always been a proponent of clone rights, but this whole Empire feels wrong to him, and he’s not sure he can trust anyone who plays a part in it.

He does gather the rest of his squad to discuss it in private, though, because this is a decision he thinks they should all make together.

“I don’t know,” Echo says, shaking his head. “I trust General Skywalker, and the Senator always seemed like a good person, but with everything that’s happening...”

“I don’t like it,” Wrecker declares. “I don’t like the Empire either. I don’t like any of this.”

“Neither do I,” Hunter agrees. He looks over at Tech, who’s been strangely silent. “What do you think?”

“I have been attempting to run calculations on the matter, but there are too many unknown variables,” Tech replies. “I cannot properly calculate our odds either way.”

“What about worst case scenarios?” Echo asks. “Which ones are better?”

“The worst case scenario either way results in our deaths,” Tech replies bluntly. “But I believe it is more likely that we will face danger from going back than from staying away, with the data I currently have. If this changes, I will inform you.”

“Then we’re staying away,” Hunter decides.

Tech adjusts his goggles. “What about Crosshair?”

Hunter doesn’t want to think about how they left Crosshair behind, but he forces himself to. He may have given them no choice but to leave him, but that doesn’t mean he deserves to be forgotten. “If he’s on Kamino, there’s no way we can get him back ourselves. If he’s not on Kamino, we don’t know where to find him. I want him back just as much as the rest of you, but I don’t think we can go after him yet, especially not with the kid.”

“Is she staying with us?” Echo asks.

Honestly, Hunter has been thinking about that as well. He doesn’t know how to raise a child, none of them do, and their lifestyle is too dangerous for a little girl, even one who’s an enhanced clone. She has no knowledge of the galaxy outside Kamino, and that could get her killed.

“I’ll talk to Cut,” Hunter says. “For now, let’s lay low and decide what to do next.”

They stay on Saleucami overnight, making plans. Hunter has a conversation with Cut about leaving Omega behind with him, which Omega overhears and vehemently disagrees with. Hunter tells the others to factor Omega into their plans.

In the end, they leave with some supplies, some news, and some tips on raising a child. They don’t have a real plan yet, but Hunter figures they’ll come up with something as they go along. Their main objective is just to keep their heads down and stay hidden.

And then, on their second day of aimless flying, they get a call.

“It’s from Kamino,” Echo says. “What do you say, Hunter?”

“Tech, can you make sure they can’t trace us or see us?” Hunter asks.

Tech nods. “Easily.”

“Then do that,” Hunter says. “Then we can see what they want with us on Kamino.”

After a few moments of fiddling, Tech accepts the call. The hologram fizzes into focus, and it shows...

“Commander Cody?” Wrecker demands.

“He can’t hear us,” Tech says helpfully. Wrecker gives him a dirty look, but before he can say anything else, Cody starts talking.

“I assume my message is getting through, even though I can’t hear you or see you. I’m here with someone who wants to speak to you.”

Cody steps aside, and Hunter's chest clenches as Crosshair steps into view. “I don’t blame you for leaving me behind when I was trying to kill you,” he says dryly, “but you could at least answer the comm properly now.”

Tech looks over at Hunter, but Hunter shakes his head. He’d like to believe this is really Crosshair, their Crosshair, but they still don’t fully know why he turned on them on Kamino, and Hunter can’t trust him until they know beyond the shadow of a doubt that he’s really back.

“I don’t know how much you know about this,” Cody says, “but all clone troopers have behavior modification chips that can be used to control us. The Emperor” - Cody says the title with more derision than Hunter’s ever heard in his voice before - “used them to turn us against the Jedi. But the order has been revoked, and the control chips are being removed.”

Crosshair turns his head to show a small red incision near his temple. “Recreational brain surgery,” he drawls. “The longnecks put up a fuss, and that sleemo Tarkin had to be taken care of, but it was nothing we couldn’t handle.”

Cody gives Crosshair the sort of fondly exasperated look that he’s given every member of the Bad Batch so many times, and Hunter wants so badly to believe this is real. He wishes he could.

“I understand that you aren’t likely to take us at our word,” Cody begins.

“Because you’re paranoid bastards,” Crosshair cuts in.

“But we’re willing to meet you at a location of your choice, just the two of us. You’ll outnumber us, two to one.” Cody’s lips twitch up the slightest bit. “Or two and a half to one, if you include the child you recused. And you all said I was a mother hen.”

“You know people called you that?” Crosshair asks.

Cody rolls his eyes, a surprisingly undignified move for the usually dignified commander. “No one was particularly subtle about it.” He turns his focus back to Hunter and the others. “If you want to meet with us, send coordinates and a time to my comm and we’ll be there.”

“And Wrecker,” Crosshair adds, “since the war is over, you’ll never have a chance to beat my total. I win.”

“Hey!” Wrecker protests, clearly forgetting that Crosshair can’t hear him.

The comm fizzles out on Crosshair’s smug expression. Hunter turns to the others, seeing his own uncertainty reflected on their faces.

“What do you think?”

“The cut on Crosshair’s head is in the right spot for it to be from removing the chip,” Omega offers helpfully. Hunter carefully doesn’t jump. Omega wasn’t in the cockpit when the call came in, and somehow, Hunter missed her entering. He must have been more distracted than he realized.

“It could be a trap, but the offer for us to choose the location makes that less likely,” Tech says. “Although they could prepare to mobilize troopers the moment we give them the coordinates.”

“I’m not sure if I believe them or not,” Echo says slowly, “but I think it’s worth looking into.”

Hunter looks to Wrecker. “What do you think?”

“Cross didn’t make any jokes like that after he started acting weird on Kaller,” Wrecker says. “All the regs acted like droids or something. Cross and Commander Cody weren’t acting like droids.”

“If it were just up to me, I’d meet up with them,” Hunter says. “But I think we should all be in agreement on this. What do you think?”

Echo, Tech, and Wrecker all look at each other. “I think we should meet with them,” Omega pipes up. “If we get to pick the spot, then we have the advantage, don’t we?”

They may or may not have an advantage, depending on whether or not Cody keeps his word about not bringing anyone else along. Hunter wants to do it anyway.

“I believe we should take this chance,” Tech says. “We may not get a better one. We can find out more of what’s happening, and if he still needs it, we may be able to rescue Crosshair.”

“I’m with Tech,” Wrecker agrees. “Let’s do it.”

“Echo?” Hunter asks, turning to the last member of the squad.

Echo looks at all of them, then nods once. “Let’s do it.”

“Alright,” Hunter says, immediately starting to make a plan. “Tech, figure out the best spot for us to meet them. Wrecker, Echo, check our weapons and start planning the best ways for us to get out of this alive.”

“What about me?” Omega asks as the other three go to do as they were told. “What can I do to help?”

“You’re going to stay on the ship when we meet with them,” Hunter says. Omega begins to complain, but he continues over her, “So that means I need to show you how it works.”

Omega’s complaining stops. “You’re going to show me how to fly the ship?”

“Just the basics,” Hunter says. “Come here.”

He manages to teach Omega the basics of takeoff, landing, flying, and using the guns by the time they reach Tech’s chosen location. It’s an ocean planet with small islands and rough atmospheric conditions, chosen so neither an aerial nor ground fleet can reach them easily. It reminds Hunter of Kamino. He wonders if that was purposeful.

“Assuming they come directly here and take the most direct route, Commander Cody and Crosshair should arrive within the hour,” Tech announces. “We can set up defenses while we wait.”

“Wrecker and I have some ideas for that,” Echo says, pulling out a box of land mines.

“This island is uninhabited, right, Tech?” Hunter asks.

Tech nods. “Entirely.”

Hunter turns to Echo and Wrecker. “Then go ahead.”

The two of them get busy preparing while Tech monitors for any incoming ships or transmissions and Hunter waits with Omega. It won’t be long, Hunter doesn’t think. Cody and Crosshair will arrive soon.

He really hopes this doesn’t end in a fight.

“Ship incoming,” Tech says, and Hunter jerks to attention. “It’s small. It wouldn’t fit more than a single squad.”

“Are you scanning any other ships?” Hunter asks.

Tech shakes his head. “Nothing else.”

So they’ll be fighting a squad at most, unless there’s another ship that’s evading Tech’s scanners. Of course, it’s possible that Cody and Crosshair were actually telling the truth when they said they’d come alone, but Hunter’s not going to take their word for it, not with the way everything’s been going lately. If they come with a squad, then he thinks his own squad, incomplete as it is, will have a fighting chance.

“They’re landing,” Echo reports from outside. “Are you coming out?”

“We are,” Hunter says. He turns to Omega and sits her down in the pilot’s seat. “You know what to do, right?”

“I know,” Omega says, nodding. “You can trust me.”

Hunter tousles her hair. “Alright, kid. Be careful.”

“Good luck!”

Hunter and Tech leave the ship and join Echo and Wrecker, who seem to have gone through the entire box of land mines. “Those aren’t going to blow us up, right?” Hunter asks dryly.

“They’re all wired to this detonator,” Echo says, taking the detonator off his belt to show the others. “They won’t go off unless I press the button.”

“Hopefully, we won’t have to,” Tech says. “It could cause serious damage to the ecosystem.”

“I thought you said nothing lives on the island,” Wrecker counters.

“It is uninhabited, yes, but the sea around us is not,” Tech replies. “And if we destroy this island, it will have consequences for the sea around.”

“We can talk about the consequences combat has on the ecosystem later,” Hunter interrupts. “Focus. The door is opening.”

The door to Cody and Crosshair’s ship lowers, and Hunter’s hand hovers just above his blaster. The others are in similar positions around him. None of them want this to come to a fight, Hunter knows that, but they’re all ready if it does.

And then two figures step off the ship, neither in armor nor, as far as Hunter can tell, armed. Cody looks mostly the same as ever, except for a shaved patch on the side of his head and a new scar under it. Next to him, Crosshair has a matching scar and expectation glittering in his eyes. For a moment, everything is silent.

“I told you they’d be ready for a fight,” Crosshair finally drawls. “You owe me five credits, Commander.”

“I didn’t take that bet, Crosshair,” Cody replies. “I’m just surprised their blasters aren’t drawn.”

“How can we know this isn’t a trap?” Hunter asks.

Crosshair reaches to pull something out of a pocket. Hunter tenses, but Crosshair just pulls out a small sample of something and tosses it at Tech, who catches it neatly.

“That’s the chip,” Crosshair says. “The four of you have them as well, but we’ll talk about removing those later.”

“What is it, Tech?” Hunter asks Tech quietly.

“It does look like a bio-organic chip of some sort,” Tech says. “I would have to study it in more depth to be certain that it was the one implanted in Crosshair, however.”

“I understand the hesitation to trust us,” Cody says, stepping forward. Hunter’s hand twitches closer to his blaster, and Cody puts his hands up in a gesture of surrender. “I understand,” he repeats, “but we’re telling the truth. What do we have to do to convince you?”

Hunter swallows, then he looks at Crosshair. “The Jedi kid, on Kaller.”

“You’re an awful liar,” Crosshair replies immediately. “But you were right not to kill him.”

It could still be a trap. Hunter knows it could be trap, but he wants to believe them so badly. He can see the same desire on the others’ faces. If they had to run, he has no doubt that they could do it, but if they don’t have to...

“Hunter,” Cody says - Cody, the one reg Hunter has always respected, the only commanding officer whose orders he’ll follow gladly. “You can trust us. This is real.”

Slowly, Hunter relaxes, moving his hand away from his blaster. The other do the same around him, readily enough that he knows they agree with his assessment. Cody and Crosshair aren’t a threat. They’re telling the truth.

“It’s good to have you back,” Hunter says to Crosshair, taking a step forward and not tensing at all when Crosshair and Cody do the same.

Crosshair doesn’t really smile in response, because Crosshair rarely smiles, but Hunter can read him well enough to know he’s pleased. “It’s good to be back.”

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can we read anything for the glass cutter AU? Its living in my brain rent free and I neeeeed more 0-0 Its so amazing <3

Unfortunately (or fortunately), this is not just a romantic story, it's just that I'm drawing one challenge right now. :) I'm sorry, there is a lot of text here.

I use this tag to mark posts related to story of my main character, Hani. The presence of the OC changes the events of the plot of the series, so I can say that this is AU. Since this is not a single plot, but a story associated with almost each of the seasons of Ninjago, AU doesn't have a single idea. But I can say that this is a story where there is another ninja in the team.

I know there are many such characters, and this AU was originally made just for fun. But maybe I can make something good out of it.

I have a detailed article describing Hani's storyline, but I haven't translated it yet, so I'll tell you the most important things.

Hani is the daughter of Wu's ally, Keyon. During the events of the pilot episode, he was killed by skeletons – so Wu said. Hani then became the new master of glass.

Hani studied at Darkley's Boarding School for Great Children, where the ninjas worked as teachers after the second season. She could not learn to control the element on her own, so the glass was attracted to her against her will and left cuts. The ninjas noticed this, but didn't going to interfere, but Zane took pity on the girl. He became involved with her despite Wu's ban (he didn't need the daughter of Keyon, because Keyon died through Wu's fault). Hani became very attached to Zane, with whom she felt safe. He taught the girl frightened by her abilities to find strength in herself. Zane was not sure if her abilities were similar to those of a ninja, but he understood that they should be used for the good of Ninjago so that Hani would not use them for evil. Therefore, he did his best to have Hani join the ninja team and be under their supervision. To do this, he had to argue with his friends and Wu.

In Rebooted, Zane managed to gain Hani's recognition as a team member. Yes, she was weaker than a ninjas, but over time she could become a good fighter – and, most importantly, her abilities would not threaten the safety of Ninjago. Unfortunately, Zane died, and the ninjas didn't want to take responsibility for the girl, so they left her in the care of Garmadon.

After the death of Zane, she was devastated, as after losing her father. But she continued to train alongside Lloyd and Garmadon. Constant training and the desire to be stronger made her character quite tough, but she could confidently fight the enemy. Garmadon didn't like her aggression and too strong will to win, he tried to make Hani more calm.

In the Tournament of Elements, these problems intensified. Clouse skillfully used Hani's aggression, making her an enemy for all other participants in the Tournament. The girl herself, due to the constant use of the element in battles, lost her common sense. Even her appearance began to change. In the end, Clouse was almost able to get her to fight by his side – but Hani was too dangerous, so Chen decided to get rid of her. She was thrown in the desert, chained to the skeleton of some monster. Hani missed the battle in the Elders' Corridors. It was only after this hard lesson that she realized the importance of Garmadon's ideas. But it was already too late.

Maybe Hani would have died in the desert... If not for Morro. He introduced himself as a poor traveler and helped her get out of the chains, while learning from Hani about what is happening in Ninjago. Later they met as opponents. Morro offered Wu to exchange Lloyd for one of the ninjas (this was an attempt to eliminate Nya; if the elements returned to the ninjas, Wu would not develop her abilities). Wu traded Lloyd for Hani. Master never wanted to take her on the team and thus got rid of her. Hani realized that Lloyd was more valuable to the team than she was, and also she hoped to get rid of Wu with Morro's help. As a result, Morro and Hani tried to manipulate each other, but they succeeded equally badly – so they only learned the secrets and weaknesses of each other, being in the same body. Both became vulnerable to each other, so they ceased to be strangers. At the end of Possession, Hani pulled Morro out of the water, creating her Elemental Dragon for the first time. Morro was unable to surrender and die when he had a living ally.

After Morro stayed with the ninjas, the course of events in the canon changed quite a lot.

In the Skybound, Hani looked for ways to bring Morro back to life. But first, Wu had to be convinced to remove the curse from the student. While trying to complete these tasks, Hani found herself trapped like the other ninjas. But Morro was used to achieving everything himself and remained at large, and in the end he helped Jay and his team.

Day of the Departed was the perfect moment to bring Morro back to life. Wu surrendered and removed the curse from him, the portal is open and can let Morro through. But his fear of being unprepared for life almost ruined everything. Morro considers Yang's fate unfair and was ready to give him a place in the world of the living. Cole practically forcibly sent Morro into the portal so that he would not interfere in the fight between the master of the earth and Yang.

In the Recording (fanseason) reveals the stories of the Morro and Hani families. The wind masters are associated with the Cloud Kingdom, which is now in danger. Only Morro, whose fate is in his own hands, can fight the lord of fate. Hani and Lloyd go in search of the Master of Writing, because only they can actively move between worlds: Lloyd is a descendant of the FSM, and Hani, like the former glass masters, is called upon to protect him and follow him. The fates of Morro and Hani, written in the scrolls of their fates, are contrary to their wishes, and they must deal with this.

You can find a little more information about Record on my Instagram, later I want to make full posts here.

During the fight with the Hands of Time, Hani was almost glad that Wu had resigned and supported Lloyd as the new leader. But gradually she began to sympathize with Wu, despite what he had done in the past. The fact that he sacrificed himself to save the students changed Hani's opinion of him. But Morro still hasn't forgiven the teacher. He believed that Wu couldn't just disappear from the life of a ninjas.

The events of the Sons of Garmadon are changed: Lloyd approaches Harumi not because of sympathy for her (since he is already in a relationship with another character, besides, sympathy for the girl is too weak a hook), but because of the desire to bring his father back to life. But to bring back the real Garmadon, not his evil appearance. The real Garmadon will be able to deal with the Sons, like the Anacondrai generals with Chen's army. Harumi, like the entire imperial family, belongs to a mysterious association that knows the secrets of resurrection from the dead. Mysticism and a blind desire to meet his father again deprives Lloyd of the ability to think sanely, and he believes Harumi. Can't a whole secret society lie? Unbeknownst to Lloyd, Harumi bribed the respected Ninjago explorers and mystics to put on this whole show. But Morro doesn't trust the imperial family, since he once participated in the war between the dynasties. He is confident that the Sons of Garmadon are ruled by the descendants of the overthrown dynasty. He doesn't believe in the resurrection of Garmadon and condemns such attachment of Lloyd to his dead father. Morro is also suspicious of Harumi's physical fitness. He is a dangerous foe, so the Sons are trying to eliminate him. Hani generally agrees with Morro, but she still really wants to see Garmadon, so she doesn't want to suspect Harumi. Morro is on a ship and enters the Realm of Oni and Dragons, Hani stays with Lloyd. Before parting, Morro manages to conclude a Yin-Yang Promise with her.

In Hunted, Morro didn't lose heart and settled in the desert - he was used to wandering and starving. Morro tried to save the wind dragon from the Hunters, but failed, was punished, and nearly died. Despite all this, the cruel world of Oni and Dragons came to his liking. As Wu grew older, he and Morro finally found a common language and came to an agreement. Hani at this time trying to continue the fight after the loss of Morro and Zane. She becomes cruel again, like in the Tournament. Due to the destruction of the city in the streets a lot of broken glass, and with so many shells Hani can easily destroy enemies. Harumi gives the order to clear the streets of glass in order to deprive the Resistance of such a dangerous and ubiquitous weapon, but getting rid of all the glass in the city is impossible. The ninjas returned in time – blinded by grief, Hani has not yet lost herself, as in the Tournament.

Morro and Hani already hope for a respite and calm, but Oni's appearance again forces them to be ready for battle. Hani has both interest and disgust for Garmadon, who was resurrected by Harumi. Morro willingly communicates with him, Garmadon cannot really offend him with his sharp remarks. Hani greatly fears for Lloyd's life as he and Garmadon descend into the Darkness. After Cole's fall, Hani tries not to lose control of herself, as she did before. Morro tries to use the wind to pull Cole out of the Darkness, but is unable to break through the cloud. In the final battle with Oni, Morro and Hani use Spinjitzu. Morro is hesitant to team up with the others in the Tornado of Creation because he is unsure of his ability to use Spinjitzu, but Hani persuades him to take the risk. After the completion of the Tornado, Morro hits hard against the wall of the monastery. This encourages him to actively learn Spinjitzu.

The Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu events have been changed, but I haven't finished the AU for this season yet. For now, I can say that the ninjas ended up in the tomb of snakes not out of boredom, but because of the deception of Clutch Powers: he competed with a young researcher for a place in the Club and wanted to use the ninjas to pass traps in the tomb. The Forbidden Spinjitzu is a special elimination weapon used by the FSM to purge Ninjago of its serious competitors. The theme of not just winning, but eliminating enemies runs through the entire season and makes it darker, because the enemy of the ninjas is now Zane. And he is not going to negotiate with them.

Hani's story in 12-13 seasons in progress.

Thanks for reading to the end!

#hani shane #glass cutter au #ninjago record

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[IMPORTANT] Dany’s tenure in Meereen - Her concessions & Why she is a true queen

I would say that this is the meta I'm the most proud of. I originally started to write it as part of the series of metas showing how Dany assesses the council she receives and makes her own choices (and it can still be considered as such), but I made it its own post because, modesty aside, I think this is a very important meta.

It dissects the recurring questions that Dany had to deal with (and that ultimately led to a false peace), how Dany is unfairly blamed for the slavers' actions and the many reasons why she is a true queen (in the sense of being one who "protects the ones who can't protect themselves"). It's probably the most comprehensive meta about not only her political situation in ADWD, but also about how and why she makes the decisions that she makes during her tenure in Meereen. I really recommend that you read it.

I didn't include, however, her decisions concerning the conflicts inside her city; I have already written a whole separate meta for them.

List of contents

0) Note on my classification of Dany's motivations

1) Recurring and/or major questions that Dany has to answer

2) Dany's ultimate choices

3) The consequences of Dany's choices and her reactions

4) Which problems are the masters' responsibility, not Dany's

5) Mhysa and mother of dragons: why both identities are fallible and how, like with her successes, Dany's failures are tied to her tendency to take responsibility

6) Why Dany is a good queen

Note on my classification of Dany's motivations

I'm putting this note in the beginning to avoid confusion from anyone who reads this meta. "Peace", "freedmen" and "empathy" can seem like interchangeable motivations, so let me explain what I mean with each of these words:

Peace: That's Dany's prime concern during her tenure and will concern decisions made to avoid further carnage or any sort of dissension. Examples include her decision to not aid the Butcher King and to marry Hizdahr.

Freedmen: This refers to moments where Dany made choices that wouldn't be convenient to her attempts to merge with the Meereenese slaves, but that were still in the freedmen's best interests. Examples include her staunch refusal to reopen the fighting pits.

Empathy: This refers solely to her decision to allow the freedmen who want to sell themselves back into slavery to do so. I made one category for that one action alone because a) even if it was a decision made to restore social harmony, its primary concern was the slaves' plight (hence why she imposed a tax on the slavers for the benefit of the city) rather than any attempt to merge with the Meereenese slavers and supress discord (so it doesn't fit "Peace") and b) despite her noble intentions, I would argue that it was ultimately not the right one for them (for reasons I detailed below), so it doesn't fit "Freedmen" either.

Herself: This refers to decisions that Dany makes thinking of her own needs and desires. One could argue that her attempts to restore order in Meereen are based on her desires, but they are not rooted in self-interest, but rather selflessness. This is for the choices that Dany made primarily based on her benefit. The only examples are her postponement of the choice of a husband and her refusal to allow Hizdahr's mother and sisters to inspect her womb.

This classification is not intended to imply that Dany's decisions have mutually exclusive purposes. It is true, for instance, that Dany's decisions to merge with the nobles are primarily motivated by her desire to "protect the ones who can't protect themselves"; even so, they will be classified as "peace" rather than "freedmen".

I think that categorizing them that way reinforces that many of Dany's choices unwittingly focused on a peace that benefitted the slavers rather than the freedmen. This, in turn, reinforces that the peace she tried to create was no true peace (which is the main lesson of her ADWD storyline).

Recurring and/or major questions that Dany has to answer

As I said above, not every decision that Dany made in her tenure will be examined in this section. The ones regarding the city's protection have been dissected in this meta. Others, such as her measures to revive the city's economy and her choice to confine and chain her dragons inside a pit, will be discussed in later sections of this meta.

I especially recommend reading questions 4, 9, 10, 11, 13 and 15.

ASOS Daenerys VI

Question 1: Do I end Meereen’s neutrality? (by helping Astapor against Yunkai)

Advice from: Ghael.

Dany’s answer: No.

Motivation: Peace.

“Two have presented themselves to bask in your radiance. [...] They arrived in the night on the Indigo Star, a trading galley out of Qarth.”

A slaver, you mean. Dany frowned. “Who are they?” 

“The Star’s master and one who claims to speak for Astapor.”

“I will see the envoy first.” (ASOS Daenerys VI)

It's always nice to see Dany undermining the slavers for the sake of the freedmen (something she will do again in her first chapter of ADWD when she chooses to give the former slaves and the former masters equal attention). Here, even if that's not what ultimately happens (because Ghael is actually representing another slaver), Dany did have the intention to favor the former slaves - she assumes that the council of freedmen she had left was still in power, which is why she would rather listen to the Astapori envoy first instead of the trader captain (who she acknowledges as a slaver).

Dany questions why her council was deposed in favor of King Cleon, which his envoy Ghael claims to have been a result of the council members' supposed alliance with the Good Masters. Missandei tells Dany that Cleon was a butcher owned by Grazdan mo Ullhor. Dany feels disgusted for having given (as she sees it, though she wasn't directly responsible for it) Astapor "a butcher king", but she hides her discontent and asks Ghael what he wants. In the name of Great Cleon, he proposes an alliance between Meereen and Astapor against Yunkai to be sealed with a marriage. These are Dany's responses:

“I swore no harm would come to Yunkai if they released their slaves,” said Dany. (ASOS Daenerys VI)

Dany found herself bereft of words, but little Missandei came to her rescue. “Did his first wife give him sons?”

The envoy looked at her unhappily. “Great Cleon has three daughters by his first wife. Two of his newer wives are with child. But he means to put all of them aside if the Mother of Dragons will consent to wed him.”

“How noble of him,” said Dany. “I will consider all you’ve said, my lord.” (ASOS Daenerys VI)

As Dany will later learn, Ghael is not wrong to warn her against the threat that Yunkai represents. However, because Dany is feeling terribly guilty about what happened during the sack of Meereen, she chooses not to take part in any war for now (hoping against hope that the Yunkish will leave her alone if that's what she does).

Question 2: Do I let the Meereenese sell themselves back into slavery if they want to?

Advice from: Missandei, Daario.

Dany’s answer: Yes, under some conditions.

Motivation: Empathy.

After Ghael leaves, Dany receives the trader captain. Like she once did with Kraznys and Missandei, she confirms if Ghael's information is accurate. Unfortunately, the situation in Astapor seems to be even worse than Ghael's report, which prompts this reaction from Dany:

The thing that surprised Dany most was how unsurprised she was. She found herself remembering Eroeh, the Lhazarene girl she had once tried to protect, and what had happened to her. It will be the same in Meereen once I march, she thought. The slaves from the fighting pits, bred and trained to slaughter, were already proving themselves unruly and quarrelsome. They seemed to think they owned the city now, and every man and woman in it. Two of them had been among the eight she’d hanged. There is no more I can do, she told herself. (ASOS Daenerys VI)

That Eroeh is being brought up here reinforces just how much Dany blames herself. Not only has Eroeh fueled both Dany's desire for vengeance and justice (which feed off each other rather than being mutually exclusive) before, she's perhaps the biggest example (in Dany's mind) of her failure to protect innocent lives. Now, even after her best efforts, it feels like the same has just happened (and will get even worse when/if she leaves).

I made this point before, however, and will make it again - yes, her actions indirectly caused these problems in Astapor, but the choices were ultimately made by Cleon. He was the one who enslaved highborn boys to become Unsullied and his actions were the ones that led to the chaos, the political unrest and the economy's collapse in the city. Dany did make a mistake for not leaving a garrison to guarantee that the council she chose wouldn't be overthrown, but she is not responsible for the atrocities that happened later.

The captain wants slaves to sell in Lys and Volantis, which Dany refuses at first, only to be informed by Daario that many Meereenese want to be sold in the Free Cities to be "tutors, scribes, bed slaves, even healers and priests" and potentially find a more comfortable lifestyle.

Disillusioned by the news of Astapor, Dany relents under certain conditions:

“I see.” Perhaps it was not so shocking, if these tales of Astapor were true. Dany thought a moment. “Any man who wishes to sell himself into slavery may do so. Or woman.” She raised a hand. “But they may not sell their children, nor a man his wife.” (ASOS Daenerys VI)

After listening to Missandei's advice, Dany also decides to impose a tax on the price of the slaves to help to fortify Meereen:

“In Astapor the city took a tenth part of the price, each time a slave changed hands,” Missandei told her.

“We’ll do the same,” Dany decided. Wars were won with gold as much as swords. “A tenth part. In gold or silver coin, or ivory. Meereen has no need of saffron, cloves, or zorse hides.” (ASOS Daenerys VI)

Daario offers to have the Stormcrows collect the tenth, but Dany is rightly wary of them and tasks freedmen to keep records of the gold (which highlights that she's not taking that money for her own self-gratification):

If the Stormcrows saw to the collections at least half the gold would somehow go astray, Dany knew. But the Second Sons were just as bad, and the Unsullied were as unlettered as they were incorruptible. “Records must be kept,” she said. “Seek among the freedmen for men who can read, write, and do sums.” (ASOS Daenerys VI)

This was not Dany's best decision; slavery ends not only with economic reforms, but also cultural ones in order to change the freedmen's outlook on their alternatives and their own dignity. Still, we need to have in mind that she is aiming to restore harmony in a short period of time (which is ultimately in vain, but still a sympathetic effort nonetheless). Even more so, we must take Dany's youth and inexperience into consideration, as well as the fact that trying to help the former slaves solely for their own sake already makes her a more commendable ruler than most of the others in this series by leaps and bounds. Finally, we should have in mind, as this meta by @yendany shows, that Dany's decision was aided by Missandei, a former slave herself. This highlights how it was made with the best interests of the marginalized group in mind; the tax will, after all, be used to revitalize the city and guarantee that slavery remains abolished.

ADWD Daenerys I

Question 3: Do I assimilate myself into the Meereenese nobility (by using the tokar)?

Advice from: the Green Grace, Brown Ben.

Dany’s answer: Yes.

Motivation: Peace.

Dany's dislike of the tokar was clear even back in ASOS:

His left hand held the tokar in place as he walked, while his right clasped a short leather whip. (ASOS Daenerys II)

All wrapped themselves in tokars, a garment permitted only to freeborn men of Astapor. (ASOS Daenerys III)

"You swore I should have safe conduct!" the Yunkish envoy wailed.

"Do all the Yunkai'i whine so over a singed tokar? (ASOS Daenerys IV)

Indeed, the tokar was so strongly associated with slavery in Dany's mind that she ordered the Unsullied to kill those holding a whip and wearing a tokar:

“Slay the Good Masters, slay the soldiers, slay every man who wears a tokar or holds a whip, but harm no child under twelve, and strike the chains off every slave you see.” (ASOS Daenerys III)

That's the emotional baggage she is carrying when her first impulse is to ban the tokar. She backpedals on her decision, though this quote makes it clear that she does it for conciliation rather than her own wishes:

Walking in a tokar demanded small, mincing steps and exquisite balance, lest one tread upon those heavy trailing fringes. It was not a garment meant for any man who had to work. The tokar was a master’s garment, a sign of wealth and power.

Dany had wanted to ban the tokar when she took Meereen, but her advisors had convinced her otherwise. “The Mother of Dragons must don the tokar or be forever hated,” warned the Green Grace, Galazza Galare. “In the wools of Westeros or a gown of Myrish lace, Your Radiance shall forever remain a stranger amongst us, a grotesque outlander, a barbarian conqueror. Meereen’s queen must be a lady of Old Ghis.” Brown Ben Plumm, the captain of the Second Sons, had put it more succinctly. “Man wants to be the king o’ the rabbits, he best wear a pair o’ floppy ears.” (ADWD Daenerys I)

But then, it's a relatively small price to pay if she can achieve peace quickly that way.

Question 4: Do I assimilate myself into the Meereenese nobility (by reopening the fighting pits)?

Advice from: Hizdahr.

Dany’s answer: No.

Motivation: Freedmen.

Like the tokar, the fighting pits were also a major emblem of slavery for Dany in ASOS:

“A bull is strong as well, but bulls die every day in the fighting pits. A girl of nine killed one not three days past in Jothiel's Pit.[”] (ASOS Daenerys II)

“Ask her if she wishes to view our fighting pits,” Kraznys added. “Douquor's Pit has a fine folly scheduled for the evening. A bear and three small boys. One boy will be rolled in honey, one in blood, and one in rotting fish, and she may wager on which the bear will eat first.” (ASOS Daenerys II)

She stood by the rail and looked out over Astapor. From here it looks almost beautiful, she thought. The stars were coming out above, and the silk lanterns below, just as Kraznys's translator had promised. The brick pyramids were all glimmery with light. But it is dark below, in the streets and plazas and fighting pits. And it is darkest of all in the barracks, where some little boy is feeding scraps to the puppy they gave him when they took away his manhood. (ASOS Daenerys II)

All the grey bricks became red and yellow and blue and green and orange. The scarlet sands of the fighting pits transformed them into bleeding sores before her eyes. (ASOS Daenerys VI)

As we can see from these quotes, the systematic killing of children for the nobility's entertainment informed Dany's decision to rebel against the masters and free the slaves and certainly informs her decision to keep the fighting pits closed for now. That she sees them as "bleeding sores" at the end of ASOS signals her ongoing discomfort.

Related to her moral outrage, Dany is unwilling to reopen the fighting pits because she is aware that the nobility will profit off the "bleeding sores" of the freedmen:

When Dany had closed the city’s fighting pits, the value of pit shares had plummeted. Hizdahr zo Loraq had grabbed them up with both hands, and now owned most of the fighting pits in Meereen. (ADWD Daenerys I)

At this point in the story, Dany thinks that ruling Meereen means allying herself with the Meereenese. In this sense, she had everything to gain by satisfying the needs of Hizdahr and Grazdan zo Galare (the Green Grace's cousin), as she admits to herself:

I need this man, Dany reminded herself. Hizdahr was a wealthy merchant with many friends in Meereen, and more across the seas. He had visited Volantis, Lys, and Qarth, had kin in Tolos and Elyria, and was even said to wield some influence in New Ghis, where the Yunkai’i were trying to stir up enmity against Dany and her rule.

And he was rich. Famously and fabulously rich …

And like to grow richer, if I grant his petition. (ADWD Daenerys I)

Grazdan, she had been forewarned, was a cousin of the Green Grace, whose support she had found invaluable. The priestess was a voice for peace, acceptance, and obedience to lawful authority. I can give her cousin a respectful hearing, whatever he desires. (ADWD Daenerys I)

However, in the beginning of ADWD, Dany is not as desperate to find short-term peace as she will be later on - at least not to the point of compromising her moral principles. Her natural impulse is to make pro-freedmen decisions that ultimately hurt the privileged. She is not as concerned to deny these potential allies their petitions:

“...Hizdahr, if you could marshal armies as you marshal arguments, you could conquer the world … but my answer is still no. For the sixth time.” (ADWD Daenerys I)

“Let us say Elza. Here is our ruling. From the girls, you shall have nothing. It was Elza who taught them weaving, not you. From you, the girls shall have a new loom, the finest coin can buy. That is for forgetting the name of the old woman.” (ADWD Daenerys I)

Which is certainly an overall attitude that informs her determination to keep the pits closed. Related to that point, it is also noteworthy that, while she felt some regret in ASOS for cruficifying the masters, her thoughts are a bit different now that she sees that sparing them caused negative consequences for the freedmen:

After Meereen had fallen, Dany had nailed up a like number of Great Masters. Swarms of flies had attended their slow dying, and the stench had lingered long in the plaza. Yet some days she feared that she had not gone far enough. These Meereenese were a sly and stubborn people who resisted her at every turn. They had freed their slaves, yes … only to hire them back as servants at wages so meagre that most could scarce afford to eat. Those too old or young to be of use had been cast into the streets, along with the infirm and the crippled. And still the Great Masters gathered atop their lofty pyramids to complain of how the dragon queen had filled their noble city with hordes of unwashed beggars, thieves, and whores.

To rule Meereen I must win the Meereenese, however much I may despise them. (ADWD Daenerys I)

Another interesting note that is that, by the time the events of ADWD Daenerys I take place, Dany is already quite familiar with Hizdahr's reasons in favor of reopening the pits, so much so that the author has Dany herself recite them onpage (instead of Hizdahr) to show off her intelligence:

“It is your cause I find wanting, not your courtesies. I have heard your arguments so often I could plead your case myself. Shall I?” Dany leaned forward. “The fighting pits have been a part of Meereen since the city was founded. The combats are profoundly religious in nature, a blood sacrifice to the gods of Ghis. The mortal art of Ghis is not mere butchery but a display of courage, skill, and strength most pleasing to your gods. Victorious fighters are pampered and acclaimed, and the slain are honored and remembered. By reopening the pits I would show the people of Meereen that I respect their ways and customs. The pits are far-famed across the world. They draw trade to Meereen, and fill the city’s coffers with coin from the ends of the earth. All men share a taste for blood, a taste the pits help slake. In that way they make Meereen more tranquil. For criminals condemned to die upon the sands, the pits represent a judgment by battle, a last chance for a man to prove his innocence.” She leaned back again, with a toss of her head. “There. How have I done?” (ADWD Daenerys I)

Not only does she manage to remember all seven of Hizdahr's arguments, Dany is also well-mannered enough to leave out the one argument that only benefits Hizdahr (i.e. the profit he'll make out of the pits) and that Hizdahr wouldn't bring up because it wouldn't help him to convince her to change her mind (even though she is aware of it).

Then, Dany astutely notes that, if the fighting pits were reopened, she would tax them before they make a profit of them in order to undermine Hizdahr and help the city:

“Your Magnificence,” whispered Reznak mo Reznak in her ear, “it is customary for the city to claim one-tenth of all the profits from the fighting pits, after expenses, as a tax. That coin might be put to many noble uses.”

“It might … though if we were to reopen the pits, we should take our tenth before expenses. I am only a young girl and know little of such matters, but I dwelt with Xaro Xhoan Daxos long enough to learn that much.[”] (ADWD Daenerys I)

Relatively speaking, wearing a tokar wasn't a hard concession for Dany. Despite her aforementioned problems with its symbolic meaning, we know that she is good at assimilating herself into a different culture. Accepting traditions that will directly harm the freedmen, on the other hand, is a different matter. Dany firmly says no for now because she feels that she has multiple alternatives.

Question 5: Do I end Meereen’s neutrality? (by helping Astapor against Yunkai)

Advice from: Ghael.

Dany’s answer: No.

Motivation: Peace.

Ghael shows up again. Instead of proposing a marriage between Dany and Cleon, he gives her a pair of slippers and simply asks for Dany to support Astapor in the fight against Yunkai. Even though both Ghael and Cleon are former slaves, Dany has no sympathy for them after the latter reinstalled slavery and still denies his request:

His new Unsullied are an obscene jape. “King Cleon would be wise to tend his own gardens and let the Yunkai’i tend theirs.” It was not that Dany harbored any love for Yunkai. She was coming to regret leaving the Yellow City untaken after defeating its army in the field. The Wise Masters had returned to slaving as soon as she moved on, and were busy raising levies, hiring sellswords, and making alliances against her.

Cleon the self-styled Great was no better, however. The Butcher King had restored slavery to Astapor, the only change being that the former slaves were now the masters and the former masters were now the slaves.

“I am only a young girl and know little of the ways of war,” she told Lord Ghael, “but we have heard that Astapor is starving. Let King Cleon feed his people before he leads them out to battle.” She made a gesture of dismissal. Ghael withdrew. (ADWD Daenerys I)

As we can see from this quote, Dany is realizing, like she did with the Meereenese nobles, that she should've been more ruthless in her punishment of the Yunkish nobles; Ghael's warning about the Yunkai'i preparing to fight against her (made back in ASOS Daenerys VI) is now coming to fruition. That being said, because Dany is focusing on Meereen's reform and believes that the slavers will leave her alone if she remains neutral, she asks for Cleon to do the same. It's easy to see where she's coming from and her reform attempts (as I will show later) will not be in vain, but underestimating the Yunkish threat is still, ultimately, a mistake of hers.

Question 6: Do I assimilate myself into the Meereenese nobility (by marrying a noble)?

Advice from: the Green Grace and Reznak.

Dany’s answer: No.

Motivation: Herself.

At this point in time, Dany isn't as desperate to find peace as she'll be later. While she still listens to her advisors' encouragement to take a husband and even weighs on her available options, she doesn't take any real measures for now:

“Cleon the Great sends these slippers as a token of his love for Daenerys Stormborn, the Mother of Dragons.”

[...] Does the butcher king believe a pair of pretty slippers will win my hand? [...] “His Magnificence bids me say that he stands ready to defend the Mother of Dragons from all her foes.”

If he proposes again that I wed King Cleon, I’ll throw a slipper at his head, Dany thought, but for once the Astapori envoy made no mention of a royal marriage. (ADWD Daenerys I)

He might be handsome, but for that silly hair. Reznak and the Green Grace had been urging Dany to take a Meereenese noble for her husband, to reconcile the city to her rule. Hizdahr zo Loraq might be worth a careful look. Sooner him than Skahaz. The Shavepate had offered to set aside his wife for her, but the notion made her shudder. Hizdahr at least knew how to smile. (ADWD Daenerys I)

That's, of course, understandable, since choosing a husband would mean risking her personal happiness and giving up her sexual autonomy.

ADWD Daenerys II

Question 7: Do I assimilate myself into the Meereenese nobility (by reopening the fighting pits)?

Advice from: Hizdahr, Reznak, the Green Grace, the Shavepate, Belwas, Barristan, Missandei.

Dany’s answer: No.

Motivation: Freedmen.

Dany is still (rightfully) adamant that she won't reopen the fighting pits, even if her counsellors (aside from Missandei) suggest otherwise. But Hizdahr's seventh attempt to convince her leaves her feeling more conflicted than before. He brings seven former pit fighters (because he recognizes the significance of the number in Westeros) and has each of them speak in favor of the return of the pits:

Dany knew his seven, by name if not by sight. All had been amongst the most famed of Meereen’s fighting slaves … and it had been the fighting slaves, freed from their shackles by her sewer rats, who led the uprising that won the city for her. She owed them a blood debt. “I will hear you,” she allowed.

One by one, each of them asked her to let the fighting pits reopen. “Why?” she demanded, when Ithoke had finished. “You are no longer slaves, doomed to die at a master’s whim. I freed you. Why should you wish to end your lives upon the scarlet sands?” (ADWD Daenerys II)

Goghor the Giant says that he was trained to fight since the age of three and should have the option to fight, to which Dany answers:

“If it is fighting you want, fight for me. Swear your sword to the Mother’s Men or the Free Brothers or the Stalwart Shields. Teach my other freedmen how to fight.” (ADWD Daenerys II)

None of them is persuaded by her reply, however. Goghor compares her suggestion to a master's orders and says that he should fight for himself, the Spotted Cat explains that his life was better as a slave and Khrazz brings up the potential rewards for the winners. Even so, Dany is still not convinced and does not think that Hizdahr is "honorable" like the fighters do:

No, a cunning man. Daenerys felt trapped. “And the losers? What shall they receive?” (ADWD Daenerys II)

Barsena answers Dany's question by saying that their names will be inscribed on the Gates of Fate, but that they will not be remembered.

Now more uncertain than before, that's Dany's decision for the moment:

Dany had no answer for that. If this is truly what my people wish, do I have the right to deny it to them? It was their city before it was mine, and it is their own lives they wish to squander. “I will consider all you’ve said. Thank you for your counsel.” (ADWD Daenerys II)

As I explained in this post, Dany is looking at the issue from a moral standpoint. This is clear when she asks what the losers will receive; dying in these duels is an injustice on its own sake - it would mean dying primarily to make the noblemen entertained and rich (as she recognizes) and, consequently, perpetuating the very social oppression that she is trying to end (because the existence of the pits is tied to the existence of slavery and inequality in general).

At the same time, though, she is still 15-16 at this point and is in an unprecedented situation for her world, so she can't articulate her stance as eloquently as she might in the future nor does she entirely realize that the freedmen's consent is dubious in this particular case (since they weren't educated and socialized to believe that they should fight for their basic rights).

Nevertheless, even with those complications, Dany doesn't relent for now.

ADWD Daenerys III

Question 8: Do I end Meereen’s neutrality? (by waging war against Yunkai and helping Astapor against Yunkai)

Advice from: Xaro and Ghael.

Dany’s answer: No (for the most part).

Motivation: Peace.

In this chapter, Dany receives bad news from Xaro about Yunkai. He makes it clear that they will not spare her city, as much as she would want them to do so for remaining neutral in their war. Unbeknownst to him, she has been taking measures to prepare Meereen for war. The first measure was a failed one:

Daenerys had sent missions to Tolos and Mantarys, hoping to find new friends to the west to balance the enmity of Yunkai to the south. Her envoys had not returned. (ADWD Daenerys III)

As Dany finds out from Xaro, Tolos and Mantarys have made an alliance with Yunkai instead. In the next chapter, she will learn that the former called her a whore and asked for the city to be returned to the Great Masters and that the latter killed her three envoys.

The second measure, on the other hand, is more successful and will influence the outcome of the Battle of Fire; she organized the freedmen into three companies:

“My freedman—” Dany started.

“Bedslaves, barbers, and brickmakers win no battles.”

He was wrong in that, she hoped. The freedmen had been a rabble once, but she had organized the men of fighting age into companies and commanded Grey Worm to make them into soldiers. (ADWD Daenerys III)

Her freedmen were represented by the captains of the three companies she had formed—Mollono Yos Dob of the Stalwart Shields, Symon Stripeback of the Free Brothers, Marselen of the Mother’s Men. (ADWD Daenerys III)

However, even if she's now taking actions to fortify Meereen, it doesn't mean that Dany will now help Cleon:

“I warned your king that this war of his was folly,” Dany reminded him. “He would not listen.” (ADWD Daenerys III)

“Great Cleon is a slaver himself.” (ADWD Daenerys III)

Those were her former reasons to not help them. The actual one, at this point, is this:

And if I do, who will defend my walls? “Many of my freedmen were slaves in Astapor. Perhaps some will wish to help defend your king. That is their choice, as free men. I gave Astapor its freedom. It is up to you to defend it.” (ADWD Daenerys III)

As it's been argued before, not leaving part of the Unsullied in Astapor to ensure that her council would remain in power was one of Dany's crucial mistakes. It would be a specially bad time to do that now because she has too many enemies both inside and outside the city. She still says no, which leads a desperate Ghael to spit on her face. Belwas slams him down onto the marble, which prompts Dany to ask him to stop. Despite his lack of respect, she won't give him a disproportionate punishment because "no one has ever died from spittle".

ADWD Daenerys IV

Question 9: Do I assimilate myself into the Meereenese nobility (by marrying a noble)?

Advice from: the Green Grace.

Dany’s answer: Yes, under some conditions.

Motivation: Peace.

Dany is more apprehensive and less hopeful at this point - as she explains to the Green Grace, Qarth, Tolos and Mantarys have all sided with Yunkai and openly declared war to her, freedmen are still being killed at night (note that the Green Grace may have played a part on their deaths) and the Butcher King of Astapor was killed by his own soldiers when he commanded them to fight the Yunkish, starting off a civil war inside the city while Yunkai besieges it. Dany feels like she is failing to deal with both wars (outside and inside the city), even more so because her primary desire is to be the ruler who will make Meereen more prosperous and "plant trees".

This complicated situation leads the Green Grace to counsel Dany to marry Hizdahr (again), which she finds predictable. Dany recognizes the self-interest behind the Green Grace's counsel and makes several objections to it:

“Tell me, can this king puff his cheeks up and blow Xaro’s galleys back to Qarth? Can he clap his hands and break the siege of Astapor? Can he put food in the bellies of my children and bring peace back to my streets?” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

“And who would the gods of Ghis have me take as my king and consort?”

“Hizdahr zo Loraq,” Galazza Galare said firmly.

Dany did not trouble to feign surprise. “Why Hizdahr? Skahaz is noble born as well.” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

“His forebears are as dead as mine. Will Hizdahr raise their shades to defend Meereen against its enemies? I need a man with ships and swords. You offer me ancestors.” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

However, Dany also begins to think that this may be the best course of action if she wants to help her people:

Daenerys Targaryen had other children, tens of thousands who had hailed her as their mother when she broke their chains. She thought of Stalwart Shield, of Missandei’s brother, of the woman Rylona Rhee, who had played the harp so beautifully. No marriage would ever bring them back to life, but if a husband could help end the slaughter, then she owed it to her dead to marry. (ADWD Daenerys IV)

At the same time, Dany ponders what marrying Hizdahr might mean for the Shavepate (whose support she values a lot) and why she would rather marry Hizdahr rather than the Shavepate (even if she trusts the latter more):

If I wed Hizdahr, will that turn Skahaz against me? She trusted Skahaz more than she trusted Hizdahr, but the Shavepate would be a disaster as a king. He was too quick to anger, too slow to forgive. She saw no gain in wedding a man as hated as herself. Hizdahr was well respected, so far as she could see. (ADWD Daenerys IV)

This is not a decision that Dany makes lightly because she's aware of its setbacks. Still, Hizdahr has public support and, as the Green Grace pointed out, the right bloodline, which makes him the better husband if Dany wants to find conciliation with the slavers (which, for now, is what she wants in the name of a false peace).

In keeping with Dany's tendency to be kind and courteous, she restrains her irritation concerning the Green Grace's condescendence:

“What does my prospective husband think of this?” she asked the Green Grace. What does he think of me?

“Your Grace need only ask him. The noble Hizdahr awaits below. Send down to him if that is your pleasure.”

You presume too much, priestess, the queen thought, but she swallowed her anger and made herself smile. “Why not?” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

From the passage above, one can infer that the Green Grace already expected Dany to follow her advice, so much so that she already had Hizdahr wait below the pyramid. Dany is aware of that condescending attitude; she still follows the Green Grace's advice for the reasons stated above, but it can't be simply said that she's being "dumb" for doing so.

I will talk more about Dany's interactions with Hizdahr in the next question. For now, let's only consider her request if she is to marry him:

“Peace is my desire. You say that you can help me end the nightly slaughter in my streets. I say do it. Put an end to this shadow war, my lord. That is your quest. Give me ninety days and ninety nights without a murder, and I will know that you are worthy of a throne. Can you do that?” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

Marrying Hizdahr is not a "stupid" thing for Dany to do (as I've seen some claim). Again, she knows it's not an unequivocally good choice:

If Meereen knew that a wedding was in the offing, that alone might buy her a few nights’ respite, even if Hizdahr’s efforts came to naught. The Shavepate will not be happy with me, but Reznak mo Reznak will dance for joy. Dany did not know which of those concerned her more. She needed Skahaz and the Brazen Beasts, and she had come to mistrust all of Reznak’s counsel. Beware the perfumed seneschal. Has Reznak made common cause with Hizdahr and the Green Grace and set some trap to snare me? (ADWD Daenerys IV)

As the quote shows, Dany acknowledges the Shavepate's importance (even if she is still ultimately not doing what he advises her to do) and has a healthy dose of distrust of Hizdahr, the Green Grace and Reznak (even if she is still ultimately doing what they advise her to do). Her problem is not that her judgment of them is poor, but rather that her solution doesn't address her ultimate goal, namely to end slavery and protect the freedmen on a long-term basis. That's because, unlike what many think, she feels reluctant about relying too heavily on violence; it's not her "comfort zone" and she has witnessed its costs before.

I would be remiss if I didn't note that Dany perceives marriage as a personal sacrifice, which is why she also wants to know if she can be attracted to and maybe even fall in love with Hizdahr:

“I always grow solemn in the presence of such beauty.”

It was a good start. (ADWD Daenerys IV)

He is not hard to look at, Dany told herself, and he has a king’s tongue. “Kiss me,” she commanded.

He took her hand again, and kissed her fingers.

“Not that way. Kiss me as if I were your wife.”

Hizdahr took her by the shoulders as tenderly as if she were a baby bird. Leaning forward, he pressed his lips to hers. His kiss was light and dry and quick. Dany felt no stirrings.

“Shall I … kiss you again?” he asked when it was over.

“No.” On her terrace, in her bathing pool, the little fish would nibble at her legs as she soaked. Even they kissed with more fervor than Hizdahr zo Loraq. “I do not love you.”

“I do not love you.”

Hizdahr shrugged. “That may come, in time. It has been known to happen that way.”

Not with us, she thought. Not whilst Daario is so close. It’s him I want, not you. (ADWD Daenerys IV)

Is Dany being unreasonable and distracted for having these considerations? No.

First, Dany is willing to marry Hizdahr if he ends the shadow war in Meereen regardless of his physical appearance. She puts her people first (to her own detriment, for she knows that she won't ever love him), as she makes it clear to Barristan:

“Lingering here will never bring it any closer. The sooner we take our leave of this place—”

“I know. I do.” Dany did not know how to make him see. She wanted Westeros as much as he did, but first she must heal Meereen. (ADWD Daenerys IV)

Second, as we already saw, Dany doesn't fully trust Hizdahr because he's still a slaver wanting to profit off the fighting pits. Whether she's sexually attracted to him or not is only one of the many factors that she is considering (and not even one of the most important ones).

Third, it's good that Dany, for being queen regnant, can reflect on whether she desires her suitors or not; any woman should be able to consider that. Even so, her position doesn't prevent her from losing her political and sexual autonomy once she marries Hizdahr. We as readers should not criticize Dany herself, but rather the inherently misogynistic power structures with which she needs to deal.

Question 10: Do I end Meereen’s neutrality? (by making peace with Yunkai)

Advice from: Hizdahr.

Dany’s answer: Maybe.

Motivation: Peace.

Dany is predisposed to think ill of Hizdahr because of both the fighting pits and her belief that a marriage won't solve all her problems:

When she was gone, Dany let Qezza fill her cup again, dismissed the children, and commanded that Hizdahr zo Loraq be admitted to her presence. And if he dares say one word about his precious fighting pits, I may have him thrown off the terrace.

“You know why you are here. The Green Grace seems to feel that if I take you for my husband, all my woes will vanish.”

Hizdahr himself seems quite aware of that. For starters, he wears a "plain green robe beneath a quilted vest" (which is in keeping with his "simple robe of grey and blue" used to integrate himself with the seven freedmen he brought in ADWD Daenerys II and also a departure from his "purple tokar" "with amethysts and pearls" from ADWD Daenerys I) to pretend that he is frugal and he praises Dany's beauty. He'll also give the exact answers that Dany would want to hear (which I've talked about before here).

Dany makes reasonable questions pertaining to Hizdahr's desire to marry her (and a not-so-veiled threat as well):

Dany studied his eyes. “Why should the Sons of the Harpy lay down their knives for you? Are you one of them?”

[...] “Would you tell me if you were?” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

“The Shavepate has ways of finding the truth.” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

“Why would you want to help me? For the crown?” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

To these questions, Hizdahr presents answers of a modest nature that make them seem honest as well. No, he's not part of the Sons, but he wouldn't tell her if he was either. No, he admits that he isn't the solution to all her problems, but that he might still help Dany to bring order to the city. And no, he doesn't deny that he wants to be king, but he also wants to protect his own people. The latter response is the one that ultimately leads Dany to open herself up:

That was a good answer, and an honest one. “I have never wanted war. I defeated the Yunkai’i once and spared their city when I might have sacked it. I refused to join King Cleon when he marched against them. Even now, with Astapor besieged, I stay my hand. And Qarth … I have never done the Qartheen any harm …” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

At this point, Dany already understands how social injustice is an issue that goes beyond slavery and continues to affect the freedmen. What she hasn't realized is that her position of neutrality in Yunkai's war is not enough for them to leave her alone. Her existence as the Breaker of Chains and the main symbol of a successful abolitionist movement are reason enough for the privileged (who, all over the continent, had been relying on slave labor) to seek to actively oppose her. It doesn't matter if she is avoiding to use force or not; they will still attack, which is what Hizdahr points out. Her selflessness shines through in her response to him:

“Let them come. In me they shall find a sterner foe than Cleon. I would sooner perish fighting than return my children to bondage.” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

Then, Hizdahr remarks that Yunkai might allow the freedmen inside Meereen to remain freedmen if Dany allows slavery to be reinstalled in the Yellow City. This is how she reacts:

“...No more blood need flow.”

“Save for the blood of those slaves that the Yunkai’i will trade and train,” Dany said, but she recognized the truth in his words even so. It may be that is the best end we can hope for. (ADWD Daenerys IV)

Why does Dany still express discomfort? That's a result of Dany's development of a "universal sense of social justice", as @khaleesirin puts it. Dany cares about all of her freedmen in a way that goes beyond national identities. Seeing them (even those outside of Meereen) continue to suffer makes her feel like a failure.

That being said, Dany still believes that conciliation is the best option because she wants (and thinks this will help) to prevent more deaths at any cost, so she considers, for now, that making peace with the Yunkish may be "the best end we can hope for". She doesn't make a firm decision here, but she's more willing to end Meereen's neutrality now than she was before.

What I also find interesting is that this moment shows that her development is not linear and clear-cut. I've defended before that war is the only righteous option in the political arena Dany is currently in and that it's good that she's coming to that realization. Here, however, despite learning how her very existence is enough for the slavers to attempt to attack and undermine her, she still chooses the more lenient path for now.

ADWD Daenerys V

Question 11: Do I end Meereen’s neutrality? (by waging war against Yunkai)

Advice from: Barristan, Brown Ben, Reznak, the Shavepate.

Dany’s answer: No (with some consideration).

Motivation: Peace and freedmen.

Before this chapter, Dany already had many problems to deal with - the Sons wreaking havoc in Meereen, Astapor about to fall into Yunkai's hands, the city's economic crisis and multiple cities turning against her to reinstall slavery in Slaver's Bay.

In this chapter, not only she finds out that Astapor has fallen, but a new complication is also introduced: the bloody flux. Dany's first impulse is to be optimistic when she listens to the news of the rider on a pale mare with signs of the bloody flux ... until she realizes that his arrival fulfills Quaithe's prophecy. Dany knows what "she is burning" means next:

The Green Grace kissed Dany’s fingers before she took her leave. “We shall pray for Astapor.”

And for me. Oh, pray for me, my lady. If Astapor had fallen, nothing remained to prevent Yunkai from turning north. (ADWD Daenerys V)

She asks for Barristan to recall her bloodriders, the Stormcrows and the Second Sons. Her sense of dread grows, as well as her need for companionship. Eight days later, Brown Ben returns with the first three Astapori refugees who managed to find their way to Meereen. Basically, they disclose that:

Cleon the Great's fall led to more political chaos with King Cutthroat and Queen Whore's dissension.

The Yunkish devoured Astapor's crops and slaughtered their herds as the Red City's habitants remained stuck inside the gates eating "cats and rats and leather".

Due to the Astapori's malnutrition, the bloody flux eventually came and killed three in every four men inside the city.

Either dying men or healthy men trying to escape the flux killed the guards on the main gate to open it.

New Ghis, the Yunkai'i and their sellswords finally enter the city; they kill Queen Whore and King Cutthroat, set fire to the Temple of the Graces, close Astapor's gates to prevent anyone from leaving it and hunt down the Astapori who try to flee from the flames.

It's important to lay out all of these events because, along with the weaver's guilt trip (sympathetic as it is), they contextualize Dany's guilt (and all of her next decisions):

He sent for me, thought Dany. That much is true, at least. (ADWD Daenerys V)

I can scarce feed my own folk. If I had marched to Astapor, I would have lost Meereen. (ADWD Daenerys V)

I could not come, the queen thought. I dare not. (ADWD Daenerys V)

She knows I lie, the queen thought. She knows I cannot keep them safe. Astapor is burning, and Meereen is next. (ADWD Daenerys V)

After the Astapori leave, Ben warns Dany and her counsellors that more refugees are coming. Both Reznak and Ben advise her not to allow them to enter the city. After Ben compares them to bad apples for being sick, Dany passionately replies:

“These are not apples, Ben,” said Dany. “These are men and women, sick and hungry and afraid.” My children. (ADWD Daenerys V)

It's a similar response to the one she gave Xaro two chapters ago; unlike the people around her, Dany refuses to trivialize the former slaves' suffering.

Also, unlike how she replied questions 1, 5 and 8, Dany has now come to regret not having helped Astapor:

“I should have gone to Astapor.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

“Cleon was the enemy of our enemy. If I had joined him at the Horns of Hazzat, we might have crushed the Yunkai’i between us.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

Both Barristan and the Shavepate point out that Dany's military strength wasn't enough to help them and control the shadow war in Meereen at the same time, so she only had bad choices here. Even so, Dany can't not hold herself accountable:

“I know. I know. It is Eroeh all over again.”

Brown Ben Plumm was puzzled. “Who is Eroeh?”

“A girl I thought I’d saved from rape and torment. All I did was make it worse for her in the end. And all I did in Astapor was make ten thousand Eroehs.”

“Your Grace could not have known—”

“I am the queen. It was my place to know.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

Does that mean we the readers should blame Dany as well? No.

On the one hand, yes, her mistake in not leaving a garrison to support her council did make it easier for Cleon to depose it and create political instability in the city that would later benefit the Yunkai'i.

On the other hand, as I said in this post, Dany is not responsible for the Yunkish's choice to commit disproportional acts of violence against the Astapori.

Reznak suggests a marriage with Hizdahr to make peace with the Yunkai'i, but Dany is understandably wary of him due to Quaithe's prophecy. She distrusts him and she distrusts Yunkai (who broke its previous truce with Dany, even though she left their wealth intact) even more:

“I may be a young girl innocent of war, but I am not a lamb to walk bleating into the harpy’s den. I still have my Unsullied. I have the Stormcrows and the Second Sons. I have three companies of freedmen.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

Ben advises Dany to unleash her dragons, to which Reznak reacts with (veeeery hypocritical) indignation. Dany silences Reznak with "fury in her tone" and tells Ben that she won't use her dragons against her enemies. Nor will she follow his advice to sell Meereen and leave. In this particular moment, Dany is seriously considering to engage in armed conflict against Yunkai:

“...Grey Worm, are my freedmen ready for battle?” (ADWD Daenerys V)

“I defeated the Yunkai’i before. I will defeat them again. Where, though? How?” (ADWD Daenerys V)

Barristan thinks that attacking right away and taking advantage of the element of surprise would be the best course of action. The Shavepate disagrees because, according to him, the Yunkai'i have too many friends inside the city and Meereen's walls and protectors are stronger than Astapor's. This leads Dany to ask how large an army she can assemble and Ben doesn't give her a hopeful answer.

With all of this advice in mind, Dany orders Ben and his Second Sons to scout the Yunkish forces (and Ben requests more gold because he knows that he's going to turn on Dany) and asks Reznak to close the gates and double the number of soldiers keeping watch upon the walls.

Her ultimate decision on whether to bring war to the Yunkai'i or not is made with Barristan. He thinks it's unfeasible to maintain a siege, so he reinforces his advice to attack them. But Dany thinks critically about his counsel and finds problems in it:

“Meet the foe,” she echoed, “with the freedmen you’ve called half-trained and unblooded.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

“Or five. And if I give you the Unsullied, I will have no one but the Brazen Beasts to hold Meereen.”

Ultimately, it's the same reason why she couldn't help Astapor: if she had done it, she would have left Meereen itself vulnerable. So she concludes:

“I cannot fight two enemies, one within and one without. If I am to hold Meereen, I must have the city behind me.[”] (ADWD Daenerys V)

My thoughts on how she dealt with this situation:

It's common to think that Dany is "made for war", not peace (or, alternatively, that she's a good heroine and a bad ruler). This assessment does a disservice to her character for putting her in a very limiting box that the text itself does not. As we see above (and as we saw in question 8), she can decide to lock her dragons and consider the option of bringing war to the Yunkai'i at the same time. She's more flexible than a single stance (either war or peace) even when she's primarily focused on one over the other.

Related to that point, she doesn't depend on a single advisor's viewpoint to make her decisions. She may trust Barristan more than she does either Reznak (who she suspects to be prophecied to betray her) or the Shavepate, but she still chooses their counsels (marrying Hizdahr and not taking up arms) because of their merit.

Question 12: Do I assimilate myself into the Meereenese nobility (by marrying a noble)?

Advice from: Reznak.

Dany’s answer: Yes.

Motivation: Peace.

As I said above, Dany is not making this decision based on Reznak's opinions, but on her own. Her goals are not as the same as his, after all; unlike Reznak or any other noble, she cares about the former slaves' plight and holds herself accountable for whatever ill happened to them once she freed them. That's why she has this thought while she considers what to do and ultimately decides:

“I cannot fight two enemies, one within and one without. If I am to hold Meereen, I must have the city behind me. The whole city. I need … I need …” She could not say it.

“Your Grace?” Ser Barristan prompted, gently.

A queen belongs not to herself but to her people.

“I need Hizdahr zo Loraq.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

The sack of Meereen, Stalwart Shield's and Rylona Rhee's and dozens of other deaths in Meereen, the fall of Astapor, the Astapori refugees coming infected by the pale mare ... These things are all looming large over Dany's head when she makes her choice. Again, it's ultimately not the right one since her goal is to end slavery, but one can understand why she would want to prevent more carnage from happening and why she would think that that would be the best course of action.

ADWD Daenerys VI

Question 13: Do I assimilate myself into the Meereenese nobility (by accepting even more concessions for the marriage)?

Advice from: the Green Grace and Reznak.

Dany’s answer: Yes, under some conditions.

Motivation: Peace and herself.

Dany's answer to this question is significant because it's the only one in which she explictly defends her own needs and desires:

The priestess and the seneschal were happy to see her garbed in a tokar, a proper Meereenese lady for once, but what they really wanted was to strip her bare. Daenerys heard them out, incredulous. When they were done, she said, “I have no wish to give offense, but I will not present myself naked to Hizdahr’s mother and sisters.” (ADWD Daenerys VI)

To contextualize the passage above, Reznak and the Green Grace want Dany to have her womb examined by her soon-to-be husband's mother and sisters. They also want her to wash Hizdahr's feet to become her "handmaid". These are Dany's ultimate decisions on the matter:

And if my womb is withered and my female parts accursed, is there a special cake for that as well? “Hizdahr zo Loraq may inspect my women’s parts after we are wed.” Khal Drogo found no fault with them, why should he? “Let his mother and his sisters examine one another and share the special cake. I shall not be eating it. [...] If my husband wishes me to wash his feet, he must first wash mine. I will tell him so this evening.” She wondered how her betrothed would take that. (ADWD Daenerys VI)

This is a great moment for a number of reasons:

Dany's shrewdness shines through here. By requesting Hizdahr to wash her feet before she washes his, she makes a statement that she is still the queen regnant and he is just king consort. This prevents her authority from being undermined.

It's also interesting to ponder why Dany is questioning these customs. Is it because of her own values or because of her belief that she's infertile (or both)? Would she still question them if she didn't think she was infertile? These questions show how her character development is, as I noted above, not clear-cut and linear. They also show how her identity as a she-king and a barren woman (and a former sex slave) is propelling her to become keenly aware of systemic injustices. I wonder how she'll react to the Westerosi marriage customs that treat women like brood mare based on the decisions she is now making - consciously or not, but slowly and surely gaining more conscience - against them.

Dany concedes other requests from her advisors, however. She gives up on the idea to marry by Westerosi rites and agrees to use a "white tokar fringed with baby pearls" (which represent fertility) during her wedding.

When the Green Grace brings up that Dany should marry in the Temple of the Graces, this is what she thinks:

Get the heads of all the noble houses out of their pyramids on some pretext, Daario had said. The dragon’s words are fire and blood. Dany pushed the thought aside. It was not worthy of her. (ADWD Daenerys VI)

I've already shared my thoughts on why Dany remembers Daario's advice two chapters after he gave it on this post. To summarize them, it has a similar purpose that of Jorah, which she remembered in ADWD Daenerys V; both men are asking her to compromise her moral values for the sake of her goals (Jorah wanted her to buy the Unsullied and be complicit in the slave trade, Daario wants her to kill all the masters inside the city). I've defended before that war is the only righteous option in Dany's particular case; having her think back to these advices, in my opinion, is the author seeding her eventual transformation into the Daenerys of ASOS, whose draconic force was associated with freedom when she decided to break the rules (like Jorah suggested), but not by compromising her moral principles, but because of her moral principles. Like ASOS!Dany, TWOW!Dany will be more forceful and find a way that integrates both dragonfire and her morality in whatever she does next. We will see that embracing her identity as the mother of dragons will be what Dany needed to be a better mhysa.

Question 14: Do I assimilate myself into the Meereenese nobility (by reopening the fighting pits)?

Advice from: the Green Grace and Reznak.

Dany’s answer: Yes, under some conditions.

Motivation: Peace.

This is another concession that Dany makes while she interacts with Reznak and the Green Grace:

A bride price paid in blood. Daenerys was weary of fighting this battle. Even Ser Barristan did not think she could win. “No ruler can make a people good,” Selmy had told her. “Baelor the Blessed prayed and fasted and built the Seven as splendid a temple as any gods could wish for, yet he could not put an end to war and want.” A queen must listen to her people, Dany reminded herself. “After the wedding Hizdahr will be king. Let him reopen the fighting pits if he wishes. I want no part of it.” Let the blood be on his hands, not mine. (ADWD Daenerys VI)

I've already explained in questions 4 and 7 and especially in this meta why Dany is against the fighting pits and why she is right to be, so I won't belabor that point.

What I will say is that it's fitting that the fighting pits, a symbol of the slavers' oppression of the slaves since ASOS and the one custom that Dany was seen continuously opposing throughout this book, is the last concession that she needs to make in the name of the false peace.

Later, I will comment on the restrictions that Dany imposed to make the duels in the pits less harmful to the freedmen.

Question 15: Do I end Meereen’s neutrality? (by making peace with Yunkai)

Advice from: Hizdahr.

Dany’s answer: Yes.

Motivation: Peace.

In the same day that she discussed the wedding preparations with the Green Grace and Reznak, Dany also has a meeting with Hizdahr. He brings her Yunkai's terms of peace; first, they require an indemnity in "gold and gemstones".

Gold and gems were easy. “What else?” (ADWD Daenerys VI)

Dany's reaction here is notable. First, it shows that she is not out to profit off the former slaves, as I've already pointed out in this meta. If she were, she wouldn't be okay with that requirement (in fact, she wouldn't have even stayed and tried to bring order to the city). Second, it seems easy to her because it mirrors her wish to "pay the boy Joffrey a chest of gold" instead of having to fight against him when she returns to Westeros. Both before and now, we see that Dany isn't someone who naturally gravitates towards violent methods, but who is rather thrown into situations where using them is necessary (whether to end slavery or to restore her family's rights). Even so, she wishes she could have as "easy" and "pleasant" a choice like that one. Here, it speaks volumes for her selflessness since her fight is for the greater good rather than her own benefit.

But she had been forewarned by Hizdahr that they would ask for more, and that "more" will always be intolerable to her - they will reinstall slavery and ask her not to interfere. This incites a bigger reaction from her:

“The Yunkai’i resumed their slaving before I was two leagues from their city. Did I turn back? King Cleon begged me to join with him against them, and I turned a deaf ear to his pleas. I want no war with Yunkai. How many times must I say it? What promises do they require?” (ADWD Daenerys VI)

Hizdahr replies that, to secure this peace agreement, the Yunkai'i want to see her married to him. That leads to Dany perfectly summing up her dilemma (as she had already done two chapters before):

“Marriage or carnage. A wedding or a war. Are those my choices?” (ADWD Daenerys VI)

As Xaro (in question 8) and Hizdahr himself (question 10) had both said before, Dany's actions had an impact in the continent's entire economic order. They won't rest until they know that her power is neutralized by a man and that her influence is restricted to a single city (or not; they could have just as easily betrayed the terms of the deal, for all we know). But Dany can't let that sink in yet because doing so would mean realizing that she can't try to "plant trees and see them grow" at this moment. Doing so would mean realizing that "carnage" can be the better option if she wants to protect her children, but she desperately doesn't want it to be. For now, then, she chooses "marriage".

And then, as we know, another complication outside of her control is added: Brown Ben and the Second Sons betrayed her. This stings for a variety of reasons:

As I briefly noted in question 11, GRRM intertwines the personal and political issues of Dany's storyline - her need for companionship grew as her political situation deteriorated. We saw this in the previous chapter when she was "so pleased" to see Ben again that she hugged her and they laughed together. We saw it too when she looked at the men around her and wished everyone who she holds dear was there too - Daario and her bloodriders and Jorah. That this happened now hurts that much more.

Also back in question 11, Barristan had warned Dany that it would be unfeasible to withstand a siege against Yunkai because the city is "overcrowded and full of hungry mouths" and she has "too many enemies within". Now that she lost the support of five hundred men, her ability to hold the city against the Yunkai'i is severely compromised; she lacks both the military strength and the food to do so. With all of these issues in mind, she can't do anything else but to gather food to sustain the Meereenese citizens, keep all of her forces inside and close the gates with the Astapori refugees starving outside of the city. It's an excrutiatingly painful decision for Dany - if it weren't, she wouldn't want "to scream, to gnash her teeth and tear her clothes and beat upon the floor". We already know that she wants, more than anything, to protect the ones who can't protect themselves. We already know that she holds herself accountable for the "ten thousand Eroehs" from Astapor's fall (even though this was the slavers' fault and only theirs). We already know that she cares so much about these refugees that she went to bring the food herself, wished she could share the food equally, bathed an old man and shamed all her men into helping her. Still, as she acknowledges, "[t]hey were her children, but she could not help them now". Her hand is being forced here.

Dany’s ultimate choices

These fifteen questions can be ultimately boiled down to three main issues that Dany wrestled with from ASOS Daenerys VI to ADWD Daenerys VI (when she made her ultimate choices on all of them):

Adherence to Ghiscari cultural norms: Wearing the tokar was relatively easy (question 3) for Dany. So was wearing a white tokar with baby pearls, though she thankfully did not give in to having her womb inspected or to washing her husband's feet first (question 13). The matter of the fighting pits was the one that Dany was most often seen being (rightfully) opposed to (questions 4, 7, 14), but even that had to be conceded in the end.

Meereen's relationship with the other city-states: From the end of ASOS until ADWD Daenerys III (questions 1, 5, 8), Dany tried to remain neutral and not intervene in what Yunkai, Astapor and the other cities were doing in the vain hope that they would leave her alone. However, as Yunkai found more allies, the Sons continued to murder citizens, Astapor fell and more refugees kept coming, Dany was backed into a corner from ADWD Daenerys IV to VI (questions 10, 11, 15). She struggled with remaining neutral more and more until she finally agreed to a truce that would allow them to resume slaving in Yunkai and Astapor and that would require her to marry a slaver.

Marriage: This one is, of course, tied to the first two issues. It was one that Dany chose not to think about too much (question 6) until her situation in ADWD Daenerys IV became too dire for her not to consider it more seriously (question 9). Then, in ADWD Daenerys V, she firmly decides to marry Hizdahr (question 12). This was no easy choice, for it meant marrying a man she doesn't love, abandoning one she loves and giving up on potential husbands who would better serve her political interests in Westeros.

It's also interesting to note which motivations primarily drove her decisions up until this point:

Peace: questions 1, 3, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15

Freedmen: questions 4, 7, 11

Herself: questions 6, 13

Empathy: question 2

The consequences of Dany's choices and her reactions

As I showed above, Dany's last chapter of ASOS and her first six of ADWD had Dany pondering on the three main issues above. She made her choices concerning all of them by the end of ADWD Daenerys VI.

ADWD Daenerys VII to IX are about the consequences of these decisions and how Dany reacts to them.

The first consequence is that she doesn't get to make her own choices anymore. The Yunkish arrived in the city and are now ready to attack her if need be:

Her foes were all about her. There were never less than a dozen ships drawn up on the shore. Some days there were as many as a hundred, when the soldiers were disembarking. The Yunkai’i were even bringing in wood by sea. Behind their ditches, they were building catapults, scorpions, tall trebuchets. On still nights she could hear the hammers ringing through the warm, dry air. No siege towers, though. No battering rams. They would not try to take Meereen by storm. They would wait behind their siege lines, flinging stones at her until famine and disease had brought her people to their knees. (ADWD Daenerys VII)

Dany turned to gaze out over her city. Beyond her walls the yellow tents of the Yunkai’i stood in orderly rows beside the sea, protected by the ditches their slaves had dug for them. Two iron legions out of New Ghis, trained and armed in the same fashion as Unsullied, were encamped across the river to the north. Two more Ghiscari legions had made camp to the east, choking off the road to the Khyzai Pass. The horse lines and cookfires of the free companies lay to the south. By day thin plumes of smoke hung against the sky like ragged grey ribbons. By night distant fires could be seen. (ADWD Daenerys VIII)

The second consequence is that the working conditions of many freedmen haven't improved, despite the fact that they are no longer slaves. One scene is noticeable because Dany is forced to be complicit in their mistreatment because she's wearing the tokar, which is "a master's garment, a sign of wealth and power":

Meereenese seldom rode within their city walls. They preferred palanquins, litters, and sedan chairs, borne upon the shoulders of their slaves. “Horses befoul the streets,” one man of Zakh had told her, “slaves do not.” Dany had freed the slaves, yet palanquins, litters, and sedan chairs still choked the streets as before, and none of them floated magically through the air.

“The day is too hot to be shut up in a palanquin,” said Dany. “Have my silver saddled. I would not go to my lord husband upon the backs of bearers.”

“Your Grace,” said Missandei, “this one is so sorry, but you cannot ride in a tokar.”

The little scribe was right, as she so often was. The tokar was not a garment meant for horseback. Dany made a face. “As you say. Not the palanquin, though. I would suffocate behind those drapes. Have them ready a sedan chair.” If she must wear her floppy ears, let all the rabbits see her. (ADWD Daenerys VII)

The Brazen Beasts did as they were bid. Dany watched them at their work. “Those bearers were slaves before I came. I made them free. Yet that palanquin is no lighter.” (ADWD Daenerys IX)

The third consequence is that Dany is forced to accept the presence of the Yunkish masters' slaves and their slave markets:

The Yunkish Supreme Commander, Yurkhaz zo Yunzak, might have been alive during Aegon’s Conquest, to judge by his appearance. Bent-backed, wrinkled, and toothless, he was carried to the table by two strapping slaves. The other Yunkish lords were hardly more impressive. One was small and stunted, though the slave soldiers who attended him were grotesquely tall and thin. The third was young, fit, and dashing, but so drunk that Dany could scarce understand a word he said. How could I have been brought to this pass by creatures such as these? (ADWD Daenerys VIII)

“Have you ever heard such singing, my love?” Hizdahr asked her. “They have the voices of gods, do they not?”

“Yes,” she said, “though I wonder if they might not have preferred to have the fruits of men.”

All of the entertainers were slaves. That had been part of the peace, that slaveowners be allowed the right to bring their chattels into Meereen without fear of having them freed. In return the Yunkai’i had promised to respect the rights and liberties of the former slaves that Dany had freed. A fair bargain, Hizdahr said, but the taste it left in the queen’s mouth was foul. She drank another cup of wine to wash it out.

“If it please you, Yurkhaz will be pleased to give us the singers, I do not doubt,” her noble husband said. “A gift to seal our peace, an ornament to our court.”

He will give us these castrati, Dany thought, and then he will march home and make some more. The world is full of boys. (ADWD Daenerys VIII)

“The Yunkai’i will soon be gone, and their allies and hirelings with them. We shall have all we desired. Peace, food, trade. Our port is open once again, and ships are being permitted to come and go.”

“They are permitting that, yes,” she had replied, “but their warships remain. They can close their fingers around our throat again whenever they wish. They have opened a slave market within sight of my walls!”

“Outside our walls, sweet queen. That was a condition of the peace, that Yunkai would be free to trade in slaves as before, unmolested.”

“In their own city. Not where I have to see it.” The Wise Masters had established their slave pens and auction block just south of the Skahazadhan, where the wide brown river flowed into Slaver’s Bay. “They are mocking me to my face, making a show of how powerless I am to stop them.”

“Posing and posturing,” said her noble husband. “A show, as you have said. Let them have their mummery. When they are gone, we will make a fruit market of what they leave behind.”

“When they are gone,” Dany repeated. “And when will they be gone? Riders have been seen beyond the Skahazadhan. Dothraki scouts, Rakharo says, with a khalasar behind them. They will have captives. Men, women, and children, gifts for the slavers.” Dothraki did not buy or sell, but they gave gifts and received them. “That is why the Yunkai’i have thrown up this market. They will leave here with thousands of new slaves.”

Hizdahr zo Loraq shrugged. “But they will leave. That is the important part, my love. Yunkai will trade in slaves, Meereen will not, this is what we have agreed. Endure this for a little while longer, and it shall pass.” (ADWD Daenerys VIII)

And no, the slave market is not just "posing and posturing", as some might argue. We see in Tyrion's chapters how horribly the Yunkish slavers treat the people being sold in that slave market and how what's happening is taken for granted:

"Four", called a monstrously fat Yunkishman from the litter where he sprawled like a leviathan. Covered all in yellow silk fringed with gold, he looked as large as four Illyrios. Tyrion pitied the slaves who had to carry him. At least he will be spared that duty. What a joy to be a dwarf. (ADWD Tyrion X)

At sixteen hundred the pace began to flag again, so the slave trader invited some of the buyers to come up for a closer look at the dwarfs.

"The female's young", he promised. "You could breed the two of them, get good coin for the whelps." (ADWD Tyrion X)

One of the guards yanked him back to his feet. Another prodded Penny down off the platform with the butt of his spear. The next piece of chattel was already being led to take their place. A girl, fifteen or sixteen, not off the Selaesori Qhoran this time. Tyrion did not know her. The same age as Daenerys Targaryen, or near enough. The slaver soon had her naked. At least we were spared that humiliation. (ADWD Tyrion X)

Tyrion saw a slave being whipped, blow after blow, until his back was nothing but blood and raw meat. A file of men marched past in irons, clanking with every step; they carried spears and wore short swords, but chains linked them wrist to wrist and ankle to ankle. The air smelled of roasting meat, and he saw one man skinning a dog for his stewpot. (ADWD Tyrion X)

The captives had been tied to a row of crossbeams, and a pair of slingers were using them to test their skills. "Tolosi", one of the guards told them. "The best slingers in the world. They throw soft lead balls in place of stones." (ADWD Tyrion X)

Most of the guests paid them no more mind than they did the other slaves ... but one Yunkishman declared drunkenly that Yezzan should make the two dwarfs fuck, and another demanded to know how Tyrion had lost his nose. I shoved it up your wife's cunt and she bit it off, he almost replied ... but the storm had persuaded him that he did not want to die as yet, so instead he said, "It was cut to punish me for insolence, lord."

The fourth consequence is that the anti-slavery member of Dany's council loses control of the Brazen Beasts:

The Shavepate was absent as well. The first thing Hizdahr had done upon being crowned was to remove him from command of the Brazen Beasts, replacing him with his own cousin, the plump and pasty Marghaz zo Loraq. (ADWD Daenerys VIII)

The fifth consequence is that, with the fighting pits reopened, freedmen are being slaughtered to amuse the noblemen:

“This one shows much promise, my sweet,” Hizdahr said of a Lysene youth with long blond hair that fluttered in the wind … but his foe grabbed a handful of that hair, pulled the boy offbalance, and gutted him. In death he looked even younger than he had with blade in hand. “A boy,” said Dany. “He was only a boy.” (ADWD Daenerys IX)

This time her leap came an instant too late, and a tusk ripped her left leg open from knee to crotch.

A moan went up from thirty thousand throats. Clutching at her torn leg, Barsena dropped her knife and tried to hobble off, but before she had gone two feet the boar was on her once again. Dany turned her face away. “Was that brave enough?” she asked Strong Belwas, as a scream rang out across the sand. (ADWD Daenerys IX)

I've already talked here about why the duels in the fighting pits perpetuate social inequality. To sum up my points, the deaths of the Lysene youth and Barsena are injustices because they never had opportunities to question the harmful conditions they were subjected to and fight for their dignity. To make things worse, the reopening of the pits would have certainly allowed more cases like this to happen:

He had even kept the truth of Daznak's Pit from her.

Lions. They were going to set lions on us. It would have been exquisitely ironic, that. Perhaps he would have had time for a short, bitter chortle before being torn apart.

No one ever told him the end that had been planned for them, not in so many words, but it had not been hard to puzzle out, down beneath the bricks of Daznak's Pit, in the hidden world below the seats, the dark domain of the pit fighters and the serving men who tended to them, quick and dead—the cooks who fed them, the ironmongers who armed them, the barber-surgeons who bled them and shaved them and bound up their wounds, the whores who serviced them before and after fights, the corpse handlers who dragged the losers off the sands with chains and iron hooks.

Nurse's face had given Tyrion his first inkling. After their show, he and Penny had returned to the torchlit vault where the fighters gathered before and after their matches. Some sat sharpening their weapons; others sacrificed to queer gods, or dulled their nerves with milk of the poppy before going out to die. Those who'd fought and won were dicing in a corner, laughing as only men who have just faced death and lived can laugh.

Nurse was paying out some silver to a pit man on a lost wager when he spied Penny leading Crunch. The confusion in his eyes was gone in half a heartbeat, but not before Tyrion grasped what it meant. Nurse did not expect us back. He had looked around at other faces. None of them expected us back. We were meant to die out there. The final piece fell into place when he overheard an animal trainer complaining loudly to the pitmaster. "The lions are hungry. Two days since they ate. I was told not to feed them, and I haven't. The queen should pay for meat." (ADWD Tyrion XI)

As we can see, Tyrion's (and Quentyn's and Barristan's and even Victarion's) chapters are partly meant to display how false this peace is. The passage above is the firsthand account of a man who was almost sent to "fight" lions without having ever agreed to do so. Again, this sort of occurence would become more frequent with time, which is only fitting since these duels are customs inextricably tied to slavery.

Now, how does Dany react to these developments?

First, she stopped holding court:

“As my queen commands. Will you hold court today?”

“No. On the morrow I will be a woman wed, and Hizdahr will be king. Let him hold court. These are his people.”

“Some are his, some are yours. The ones you freed.”

“Are you chiding me?”

“The ones you call your children. They want their mother.”

“You are. You are chiding me.”

“Only a little, bright heart. Will you come hold court?”

“After my wedding, perhaps. After the peace.” (ADWD Daenerys VII)

This is Dany's lowest point in ADWD - here, she gave up on being both mhysa and mother of dragons in the vain attempt to make peace with the slavers. She is too disillusioned by the negative repercussions of her actions and would rather leave the ruling to her husband out of spite.

What's interesting is that Daario (who represents war, among other things) advises her to hold court again. This is one of the signs that Dany needs to re-embrace her identity as the Mother of Dragons to be a better mhysa to her people. These are balancing identities in many ways, not just opposing ones.

Second, Dany attempts to turn mercenaries to her cause because she doesn't trust neither the slavers nor Hizdahr:

“I am only a young girl and know little of such things, but it seems to me that we want them to be treacherous. Once, you’ll recall, I convinced the Second Sons and Stormcrows to join us.”

“If Your Grace wishes a privy word with Gylo Rhegan or the Tattered Prince, I could bring them up to your apartments.”

“This is not the time. Too many eyes, too many ears. Their absence would be noted even if you could separate them discreetly from the Yunkai’i. We must find some quieter way of reaching out to them … not tonight, but soon.”

[…] “Our prisoners,” suggested Dany. “The Westerosi who came over from the Windblown with the three Dornishmen. We still have them in cells, do we not? Use them.”

[…] “We can still use them. One was a woman. Meris. Send her back, as a … a gesture of my regard. If their captain is a clever man, he will understand.”

“The woman is the worst of all.”

“All the better.” Dany considered a moment. “We should sound out the Long Lances too. And the Company of the Cat.”

“Bloodbeard.” Ser Barristan’s frown deepened. “If it please Your Grace, we want no part of him. Your Grace is too young to remember the Ninepenny Kings, but this Bloodbeard is cut from the same savage cloth. There is no honor in him, only hunger … for gold, for glory, for blood.”

“You know more of such men than me, ser.” If Bloodbeard might be truly the most dishonorable and greedy of the sellswords, he might be the easiest to sway, but she was loath to go against Ser Barristan’s counsel in such matters. “Do as you think best. But do it soon. If Hizdahr’s peace should break, I want to be ready. I do not trust the slavers.” I do not trust my husband. “They will turn on us at the first sign of weakness.”

“The Yunkai’i grow weaker as well. The bloody flux has taken hold amongst the Tolosi, it is said, and spread across the river to the third Ghiscari legion.”

[…] “I cannot rely on plague to save me from my enemies. Set Pretty Meris free. At once.” (ADWD Daenerys VIII)

I mentioned in question 13 that Dany is turning back into the Daenerys of ASOS (and argued that that's a good thing). Here, we see another sign of that gradual transformation, as she frees Pretty Meris to try to convince the sellsword companies to switch allegiances like she did in ASOS (Dany herself even alludes to it).

Third, Dany makes restrictions to the duels to lessen the harshness towards the participants:

“...No children die today in Daznak’s, as my gentle queen in her wisdom has decreed.”

Another small victory. Perhaps I cannot make my people good, she told herself, but I should at least try to make them a little less bad. Daenerys would have prohibited contests between women as well, but Barsena Blackhair protested that she had as much right to risk her life as any man. The queen had also wished to forbid the follies, comic combats where cripples, dwarfs, and crones had at one another with cleavers, torches, and hammers (the more inept the fighters, the funnier the folly, it was thought), but Hizdahr said his people would love her more if she laughed with them, and argued that without such frolics, the cripples, dwarfs, and crones would starve. So Dany had relented.

It had been the custom to sentence criminals to the pits; that practice she agreed might resume, but only for certain crimes. “Murderers and rapers may be forced to fight, and all those who persist in slaving, but not thieves or debtors.”

Beasts were still allowed, though. (ADWD Daenerys IX)

Fourth, she takes off her tokar:

“Khaleesi?” Irri asked. “What are you doing?”

“Taking off my floppy ears.” (ADWD Daenerys IX)

It's very fitting that she takes off the tokar, "a master's garment" and "a sign of wealth and power", while she witnesses the injustices occurring inside the pit. This, along with Drogon's arrival and Dany turning him away from the city, signals her rejection of a peace that prioritizes the nobles over the former slaves.

Fifth, Dany explicitly rejects the peace:

Meereen was not her home, and never would be. It was a city of strange men with strange gods and stranger hair, of slavers wrapped in fringed tokars, where grace was earned through whoring, butchery was art, and dog was a delicacy. Meereen would always be the Harpy’s city, and Daenerys could not be a harpy. (ADWD Daenerys X)

“It is such a long way,” she complained. “I was tired, Jorah. I was weary of war. I wanted to rest, to laugh, to plant trees and see them grow. I am only a young girl.”

No. You are the blood of the dragon. The whispering was growing fainter, as if Ser Jorah were falling farther behind. Dragons plant no trees. Remember that. Remember who you are, what you were made to be. Remember your words.

“Fire and Blood,” Daenerys told the swaying grass. (ADWD Daenerys X)

Do these realizations mark the beginning of a dark turn for Dany? Maybe (though it would carry negative implications depending on its execution), but that's not all there is to it. Trying to find common ground with the slavers was the first root of all her problems and she has now addressed it. Avoiding to use violence was the second root of all her problems and she has now addressed it.

I've already speculated that Dany embracing her house's words is (mostly) a good thing. There's a lot of discussion regarding the purpose of this scene, which goes beyond the scope of this meta. For more on this topic, see here, here, here and here.

Which problems are the masters' responsibility, not Dany's

A recurring argument to support the opinion that Dany is a bad ruler is that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" or "good intentions, disastrous outcomes". It simply does not hold water for two major reasons.

It puts the blame on Dany for the slavers' actions (which is particularly wrong because she is actively trying to make things better for the very people that they oppressed).

Carnage would have always occurred one way or another, even if Dany had been less lenient towards them from the get-go. It's likely that there would have been less collateral damage if she had killed and/or neutralized the slavers' power right away, yes, but this circles back to my first argument - that she is not responsible for their disproportionate reactions.

Let's take a look at some of the tragedies that occurred during Dany's tenure and see who was at fault.

The Great Masters of Meereen had withdrawn before Dany’s advance, harvesting all they could and burning what they could not harvest. Scorched fields and poisoned wells had greeted her at every hand. Worst of all, they had nailed a slave child up on every milepost along the coast road from Yunkai, nailed them up still living with their entrails hanging out and one arm always outstretched to point the way to Meereen. Leading her van, Daario had given orders for the children to be taken down before Dany had to see them, but she had countermanded him as soon as she was told. “I will see them,” she said. “I will see every one, and count them, and look upon their faces. And I will remember.”

By the time they came to Meereen sitting on the salt coast beside her river, the count stood at one hundred and sixty-three. I will have this city, Dany pledged to herself once more. (ASOS Daenerys VI)

It's not Dany's fault that the city's economy collapsed during her tenure, it's the masters'; Meereen's main exports were slaves and olives. The latter became unavailable because the slavers burned the fields, while the former became unavailable because Dany decided to show the entire continent that the lives of the former slaves matter and that they can't be sold.

It's not Dany's fault that one hundred and sixty-three children were crucified, it's the masters'. To hold her accountable for these deeds makes no sense (and veers into slavery apologia) because the slave masters have agency of their own and she was actively trying to undo the damage they caused for thinking that selling human lives and treating them as it pleased them was okay.

“Yunkai’s sellswords roam the hills north of Astapor, hunting down those who flee the flames.”

“Has the city fallen, then? Its walls were thick.”

“This is so,” said the bricklayer, a stoop-backed man with rheumy eyes, “but they were old and crumbling as well.”

[…] “Outside our walls, the Yunkai’i devoured our crops and slaughtered our herds,” the cobbler went on. “Inside we starved. We ate cats and rats and leather. A horsehide was a feast. King Cutthroat and Queen Whore accused each other of feasting on the flesh of the slain. Men and women gathered in secret to draw lots and gorge upon the flesh of him who drew the black stone. […] Soon after came the sickness, a bloody flux that killed three men of every four, until a mob of dying men went mad and slew the guards on the main gate.”

The old brickmaker broke in to say, “No. That was the work of healthy men, running to escape the flux.”

“Does it matter?” asked the cobbler. “The guards were torn apart and the gates thrown open. The legions of New Ghis came pouring into Astapor, followed by the Yunkai’i and the sellswords on their horses. Queen Whore died fighting them with a curse upon her lips. King Cutthroat yielded and was thrown into a fighting pit, to be torn apart by a pack of starving dogs.”

[…] “And when the city fell?” demanded Skahaz. “What then?”

“The butchery began. The Temple of the Graces was full of the sick who had come to ask the gods to heal them. The legions sealed the doors and set the temple ablaze with torches. Within the hour fires were burning in every corner of the city. As they spread they joined with one another. The streets were full of mobs, running this way and that to escape the flames, but there was no way out. The Yunkai’i held the gates.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

I've said it in a previous post and will say again - it's not Dany's fault that Astapor fell, it's the masters'. Yes, she made mistakes when she didn't leave a garrison to the council she installed in the Red City and let the Yunkai'i retain their wealth and influence; her lenience made Astapor's fall possible. It still doesn't make her responsible for the fact that they chose to hunt down the citizens and burn the entire city to serve as a lesson for the abolitionists.

What's more, letting the slaves starve inside the city and eat "cats and rats and leather" was probably what caused the bloody flux, so it's not Dany's fault that the pale mare spread throughout the city and the region either, it's the masters'. To hold her accountable for these deeds makes no sense (and veers into slavery apologia) because the slave masters have agency of their own and she was actively trying to undo the damage they caused for thinking that selling human lives and treating them as it pleased them was okay.

It had taken the rest of the day and most of the night for the Brazen Beasts to gather up the corpses. The final count was two hundred fourteen slain, three times as many burned or wounded. (ADWD The Queensguard)

It's not Dany's fault that Drogon arrived. She couldn't control him anymore and casualties were probably inevitable the moment he showed up. What actually set his attacks in motion was the spearman's attack on him, but again, Dany couldn't have prevented these things from happening. She did the only thing she could've done, which was to throw herself between him and the people in the arena and attempt to control him (which she ultimately does by flying away with him and saving more lives in the process). Related to that point, it's not Dany's fault that the peace agreement with Yunkai was compromised because of Drogon's arrival.

"Thus does Yunkai make reply to your offers, ser. I warned you that you would not like their answer."

They choose war, then. So be it. Ser Barristan felt oddly relieved. War he understood. "If they think they will break Meereen by throwing stones—"

"Not stones." The old woman's voice was full of grief, of fear. "Corpses." (ADWD The Queen's Hand)

It's not Dany's fault (nor Barristan's) that the slavers decided to throw corpses afflicted by the pale mare to spread the disease in Meereen and end the siege more quickly. That was the slavers' choice and only theirs. To hold her accountable for these deeds makes no sense (and veers into slavery apologia) because the slave masters have agency of their own and she was actively trying to undo the damage they caused for thinking that selling human lives and treating them as it pleased them was okay.

Which brings me back to the second major reason I'd mentioned above concerning why the accusation that Dany's good intentions led to horrible outcomes is weak at best and slavery apologia at worse: violence and casualties would have always been inevitable because the slavers would have always tried to fight to restore the slave trade. This is in the best interests of not just Yunkai, but of multiple city-states, most notable of all Volantis:

"The best calumnies are spiced with truth," suggested Qavo, "but the girl's true sin cannot be denied. This arrogant child has taken it upon herself to smash the slave trade, but that traffic was never confined to Slaver's Bay. It was part of the sea of trade that spanned the world, and the dragon queen has clouded the water. Behind the Black Wall, lords of ancient blood sleep poorly, listening as their kitchen slaves sharpen their long knives. Slaves grow our food, clean our streets, teach our young. They guard our walls, row our galleys, fight our battles. And now when they look east, they see this young queen shining from afar, this breaker of chains. The Old Blood cannot suffer that. Poor men hate her too. Even the vilest beggar stands higher than a slave. This dragon queen would rob him of that consolation." (ADWD Tyrion XI)

This is also one of the two reasons why the argument that Dany was "stupid" for having trusted the Meereenese nobles is very weak; not only I've said before that we don't have concrete (though it's convincing enough) evidence that they acted in bad faith, but even if they hadn't, the peace couldn't have been kept.

Poor old Yezzan. The lord of suet was not so bad as masters went. Sweets had been right about that. Serving at his nightly banquets, Tyrion had soon learned that Yezzan stood foremost amongst those Yunkish lords who favored honoring the peace with Meereen. Most of the others were only biding their time, waiting for the armies of Volantis to arrive. A few wanted to assault the city immediately, lest the Volantenes rob them of their glory and the best part of the plunder. Yezzan would have no part of that. Nor would he consent to returning Meereen’s hostages by way of trebuchet, as the sellsword Bloodbeard had proposed. (ADWD Tyrion XI)

“How long do you think the Yunkishmen will want to continue paying wages to four free companies?”

The Tattered Prince took a sip of wine and said, “A vexing question. But this is the way of life for we men of the free companies. One war ends, another begins. Fortunately there is always someone fighting someone somewhere. Perhaps here. Even as we sit here drinking Bloodbeard is urging our Yunkish friends to present King Hizdahr with another head. Freedmen and slavers eye each other’s necks and sharpen their knives, the Sons of the Harpy plot in their pyramids, the pale mare rides down slave and lord alike, our friends from the Yellow City gaze out to sea, and somewhere in the grasslands a dragon nibbles the tender flesh of Daenerys Targaryen. Who rules Meereen tonight? Who will rule it on the morrow?”

The Pentoshi gave a shrug. “One thing I am certain of. Someone will have need of our swords.” (ADWD The Spurned Suitor)

With the death of Yezzan (one of the few Yunkish lords in favor of the peace), "most" of the Yunkish lords are "only biding their time" "waiting for the armies of Volantis". The mercenaries also want to fight. These instances display that not only the peace favored the slavers over the former slaves and undermined the anti-slavery queen (which I've addressed the section about the consequences of Dany's choices), they also show that the peace was fragile and nothing prevented either Yunkai or Volantis from breaking it.

The second reason why it doesn't make sense to argue that Dany was "stupid" for having trusted the Meereenese slavers (and I admit that I was a little guilty of that too, though I changed my stance) is that it ignores Dany's decision-making process. I've already showed above how she doesn't rely on anyone's viewpoint but her own and will reiterate that once again in a future section, which will be about why Dany is a good queen.

Mhysa and mother of dragons: why both identities are fallible and how, like with her successes, Dany's failures are tied to her tendency to take responsibility

To clarify things here: mhysa refers to Dany's desire to protect the oppressed. Mother of dragons refers to Dany's assertiveness and willingness to use violent methods to accomplish her goals (whatever they might be). They are not a dichotomy in the sense that BryndenBFish and Adam Feldman tried to create in their metas, namely by characterizing mhysa as her peaceful and compassionate side and mother of dragons as her violent and selfish side. Both can be ineffective and harmful.

In AGOT, as @yendany wrote about, watching the carnage in Lhazareen initially makes Dany rationalize it by saying that "this is the price of war" (mother of dragons). Not long afterwards, however, she is unable to continue to watch these injustices occur without doing anything, so she orders her men to stop the rapes (mhysa). She asserts her position to make sure that they follow her orders (mother of dragons and mhysa combined).

In ASOS, Dany was also both mhysa and mother of dragons when she rebelled against the masters and freed the Unsullied.

This makes for complex characterization, which is only fitting since her storyline's thematic message (that war is the only righteous path) is complex as well. In order to achieve justice, Dany must be in touch with both of these sides.

What's also important to note is what these aspects of Dany's identity have in common: they are tied to Dany's sense of accountability.

When the mhysa tries to find common ground and not use violence at any cost, she's taking responsibility for the dead by seeking to prevent more deaths from occurring (and unwittingly privileging the nobles).

When the mother of dragons punishes the wineseller and his daughters, she's seeking for information about the Sons to better protect her children.

Ultimately, both of those actions were mistakes, but they are examples of Dany taking responsibility nonetheless. My intent is to show that a) Dany's mistakes are not terrible ones, but rather reasonable ones that can be amended with time and learning and that b) they are understandable ones because they are tied to Dany's sense of accountability (which is also why she is such a good queen, as I will show below). In this section, the focus is on her misses. The next one will focus on her hits.

First, let's consider the mistakes (or controversial decisions) that didn't impact the whole region.

Many people like to bring up Dany's order to torture the wineseller and his daughters as a reason why she wouldn't rule well. I am not going to have a long discussion of this issue here because I've done it elsewhere; to be concise, they tend to overlook how torture is normalized in her time (the Vale, the Night's Watch and the North have all used it) and mistakenly attribute the idea to her when it was actually the Shavepate's (yes, she is still responsible for authorizing it, but it matters in terms of characterization that she wasn't the one who first came up with it). They never take this moment into consideration as well:

“They are afraid for their children,” Reznak said.

Yes, Daenerys thought, and so am I. (ADWD Daenerys II)

This shows that, despite how morally questionable this action might be, it is ultimately being done in the name of her people - in the name of people who aren't even tied to her by heritage or feudal alliances (which is more than other feudal lords can say).

They never take these moments into consideration as well:

"We are all dead, then. You gave us death, not freedom." Ghael leapt to his feet and spat into her face.

Strong Belwas seized him by the shoulder and slammed him down onto the marble so hard that Dany heard Ghael's teeth crack. The Shavepate would have done worse, but she stopped him.

"Enough," she said, dabbing at her cheek with the end of her tokar. "No one has ever died from spittle. Take him away." (ADWD Daenerys III)

Hazzea was enough. What good is peace if it must be purchased with the blood of little children? “These murders are not their doing,” Dany told the Green Grace, feebly. “I am no butcher queen.” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

“Kill them all and take their treasures, I say. Whisper the command, and your Daario will make you a pile of their heads taller than this pyramid.”

“If I knew who they were—”

“Zhak and Pahl and Merreq. Them, and all the rest. The Great Masters. Who else would it be?”

He is as bold as he is bloody. “We have no proof this is their work. Would you have me slaughter my own subjects?” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

“If he is not the Harpy, he knows him. I can find the truth of that easy enough. Give me your leave to put Hizdahr to the question, and I will bring you a confession.”

“No,” she said. “I do not trust these confessions. You’ve brought me too many of them, all of them worthless.”

“Your Radiance—”

“No, I said.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

The last quote is noticeable for marking the only instance in this book series in which a ruler learned that torture doesn't bring feasible results and stops it.

Still, the most important takeaway here is that Dany is seen refusing to order indiscriminate and disproportionate punishments with four different people. That's the pattern for her. She won't kill innocent children or risk murdering subjects who weren't responsible for the crimes that she's punishing nor will she use torture if it doesn't help her to protect her people.

Does that mean she will never misuse her power? No, she is fallible. But it can't be forgotten that the world she lives in normalizes violence and arbitrariness in her punishments and that, despite her qualities, GRRM will not let her not be a product of her time as well. It can't be forgotten that her characterization is that of someone who strives to make just decisions, hence why she eventually stops the tortures and why her tendency is to avoid indiscriminate punishment. That makes for nuanced characterization and does not detract from her being a good ruler; King Jaehaerys I is another example of that.

That being said, the key detail that her detractors don't realize that her overuse of her mhysa side was much more harmful than her overuse of her mother of dragons side in ADWD. As I already said above, while she's not to blame for the slavers' atrocities (and not to be judged as a bad queen because of their actions), it's true that they wouldn't have had the chance to do what they did if she had been more ruthless against them from the get-go. In that sense, the mhysa side caused a lot more damage than the mother of dragons one.

We can also see some of the damage of overrelying on her mhysa side's perspective in some of her decisions at court.

This is Dany's decision when a freedman asks for a noble to be gelded for raping his wife back when she was his bed slave and to receive a purse of gold for having to take care of the noble's child:

Dany granted him the gold, but not the gelding.

“When he lay with her, your wife was his property, to do with as he would. By law, there was no rape.” Her decision did not please him, she could see, but if she gelded every man who ever forced a bedslave, she would soon rule a city of eunuchs. (ADWD Daenerys I)

Am I saying that it would have been justice if Dany had gelded the master for raping the bed slave? No (though I don't begrudge anyone who might think it is). Still, he did deserve some sort of punishment, be it gelding (remember that we're in a pseudomedieval world) or something else.

Does that mean that this was a terrible mistake from Dany's part? No. As she cleverly notes, doing otherwise would have established a precedent that would punish too many nobles. At this point, she believes that she must have peace with the masters to bring order to the city, so she can't punish him.

This is Dany's decision when a nobleborn boy asks for her to kill the slaves who revolted against his family by killing his father and elder brother and raping his mother before killing her and are now living in his house:

I am queen over a city built on dust and death. Dany had no choice but to deny him. She had declared a blanket pardon for all crimes committed during the sack. Nor would she punish slaves for rising up against their masters. (ADWD Daenerys I)

This situation is even more complex than the previous one. It must be noted that we don't know how these masters treated their slaves in order for the latter to have reacted so radically when they could. Even so, the boy's mother certainly did not deserve to be raped, ever. As we can see, even if the use of force was necessary to depose the oppressors and end slavery, it doesn't come without negative consequences (and I'm sure we'll see more of those in TWOW).

Was it a mistake from Dany's part to let these slaves go unpunished? On the one hand, any rapist deserves to be punished (and Dany is intensely aware of that fact). On the other hand, like with the masters in the other case, it would establish a precedent that would punish too many slaves and she doesn't want to act arbitrarily by going against her blanket. At this moment, for Dany, finding peace means that the former masters and the former slaves must stand as equals, so she won't punish the latter harshly either. It's a nuanced situation that can't be distorted to mean that she doesn't care about these crimes; it's the opposite, as she notes that she's queen "over a city built on dust and death". She feels terrible guilt for having to do this, but it goes in line with her current attempt to be conciliatory.

This is Dany's decision when a rich woman (who lost her husband and sons during the sack) asks for her house (which she left in fear for her safety), clothes and jewels back, for they are now all in possession of former bed slaves who turned the house into a brothel:

“They can keep the clothes,” she allowed. Dany granted her the jewels but ruled the house was lost when she abandoned it. (ADWD Daenerys I)

Was this decision a mistake from Dany's part? I don't think so. In the same chapter, we saw Dany feeling empathy for the Yunkish refugees' plight:

A brothel. Half of her freedmen were from Yunkai, where the Wise Masters had been famed for training bedslaves. The way of the seven sighs. Brothels had sprouted up like mushrooms all over Meereen. It is all they know. They need to survive. Food was more costly every day, whilst the price of flesh grew cheaper. In the poorer districts between the stepped pyramids of Meereen’s slaver nobility, there were brothels catering to every conceivable erotic taste, she knew. (ADWD Daenerys I)

It's quite possible that these are the same former bedslaves who are trying to survive in these difficult times in Meereen. The woman is rich, had relatives to run to and, let's not forget, profited off slavery. The prostitutes simply don't have the same resources and never had the same opportunities that the woman had.

I'm only including this decision here because I know that it is a controversial one in parts of the fandom, who berate Dany for being "arbitrary". I wouldn't describe it as such because there were never any laws that treated masters and slaves as equals and that appointed who should receive what (because slaves weren't entitled to receive anything until Dany arrives). I would say that Dany ultimately did the right thing; she was even conciliatory by at least granting the woman her jewels. Just because the woman isn't depicted as a one-note villain doesn't mean that she wasn't part of the oppressors' side.

Dany's overuse of her mhysa identity over her mother of dragons one is also apparent in this moment:

Xaro gave a languid shrug. “As it happens, when I came ashore in your sweet city, I chanced to see upon the riverbank a man who had once been a guest in my manse, a merchant who dealt in rare spices and choice wines. He was naked from the waist up, red and peeling, and seemed to be digging a hole.”

“Not a hole. A ditch, to bring water from the river to the fields. We mean to plant beans. The beanfields must have water.”

“How kind of my old friend to help with the digging. And how very unlike him. Is it possible he was given no choice in the matter? No, surely not. You have no slaves in Meereen.”

Dany flushed. “Your friend is being paid with food and shelter. I cannot give him back his wealth. Meereen needs beans more than it needs rare spices, and beans require water.”

“Would you set my dancers to digging ditches as well? Sweet queen, when he saw me, my old friend fell to his knees and begged me to buy him as a slave and take him back to Qarth.”

She felt as if he’d slapped her. “Buy him, then.” (ADWD Daenerys III)

This moment has been exhaustively discussed here and here. What is necessary to say here is that this man was a merchant like Xaro is; this means that he most likely owned slaves (which Xaro conveniently left out for his own benefit), like the merchant Xaro does. Both the ones who sell and the ones who possess slaves have to be undermined in order to abolish slavery. In this former merchant's case, he probably lost his slaves, had no opportunity to sell his spices and wines, couldn't leave and then had to find whatever work was available in the city. The available work was to dig ditches to plant beans and reform the city's economy. That type of work can't be prohibited, it's necessary to guarantee that the city remains without slavery.

Another false accusation against Dany is that she didn't care about this man. That's not true, she cares too much - see how "[s]he felt as if he'd slapped her". That's how she feels, in the same chapter, when she realizes what leaving for Westeros would mean for the city at this point:

“The Yunkai’i will restore the Great Masters the instant you are gone, and we who have so faithfully served your cause will be put to the sword, our sweet wives and maiden daughters raped and enslaved.”

“Not mine,” grumbled Skahaz Shavepate. “I will kill them first, with mine own hand.” He slapped his sword hilt.

Dany felt as if he had slapped her face instead. (ADWD Daenerys III)

The mhysa in her is being too lenient for not realizing that the slavers have to be undermined and that she must prioritize the lives of the freedmen. The mother of dragons should have intervened by being more pragmatic in that sense. This displays how difficult (and dramatically compelling) her situation is.

But why is Dany so insistent on finding peace and conciliation with the slavers? To contextualize why, it's crucial to remember the deaths that she believes herself to be responsible for:

Rakharo and Quaro stood beside the tent flap. Quaro took a step forward, reaching for the handle of his whip, but Qotho spun graceful as a dancer, the curved arakh rising. It caught Quaro low under the arm, the bright sharp steel biting up through leather and skin, through muscle and rib bone. Blood fountained as the young rider reeled backward, gasping.

[...] The Dothraki were shouting, Mirri Maz Duur wailing inside the tent like nothing human, Quaro pleading for water as he died. (AGOT Daenerys VIII)

“Eroeh?” asked Dany, remembering the frightened child she had saved outside the city of the Lamb Men.

“Mago seized her, who is Khal Jhaqo’s bloodrider now,” said Jhogo. “He mounted her high and low and gave her to his khal, and Jhaqo gave her to his other bloodriders. They were six. When they were done with her, they cut her throat.”

“It was her fate, Khaleesi,” said Aggo. 

If I look back I am lost. (AGOT Daenerys IX)

They left a trail of dead and dying horses behind them as they went[.]

[...] Three days into the march, the first man died.

[...] Two nights later, it was an infant girl who perished.

[...] Death followed death. Weak children, wrinkled old women, the sick and the stupid and the heedless, the cruel land claimed them all. Doreah grew gaunt and hollow-eyed, and her soft golden hair turned brittle as straw.

[...] Doreah took a fever and grew worse with every league they crossed. Her lips and hands broke with blood blisters, her hair came out in clumps, and one evenfall she lacked the strength to mount her horse. Jhogo said they must leave her or bind her to her saddle, but Dany remembered a night on the Dothraki sea, when the Lysene girl had taught her secrets so that Drogo might love her more. She gave Doreah water from her own skin, cooled her brow with a damp cloth, and held her hand until she died, shivering. Only then would she permit the khalasar to press on. (ACOK Daenerys I)

All my victories turn to dross in my hands, she thought. Whatever I do, all I make is death and horror. When word of what had befallen Astapor reached the streets, as it surely would, tens of thousands of newly freed Meereenese slaves would doubtless decide to follow her when she went west, for fear of what awaited them if they stayed ... yet it might well be that worse would await them on the march. Even if she emptied every granary in the city and left Meereen to starve, how could she feed so many? The way before her was fraught with hardship, bloodshed, and danger. (ASOS Daenerys VI)

“Your Grace,” said Ser Barristan Selmy, the lord commander of her Queensguard, “there is no need for you to see this.”

“He died for me.”

[...] “This one has been told that your servant Stalwart Shield sometimes gave coin to the women of the brothels to lie with him and hold him.”

The blood of the dragon does not weep. (ADWD Daenerys I)

“I would give Hazzea back to you if I could,” she told the father, “but some things are beyond the power of even a queen. Her bones shall be laid to rest in the Temple of the Graces, and a hundred candles shall burn day and night in her memory. Come back to me each year upon her nameday, and your other children shall not want … but this tale must never pass your lips again.” (ADWD Daenerys II)

Your servants Mossador and Duran were crushed by falling stones beneath the river wall. Your servants Eladon Goldenhair and Loyal Spear were poisoned at a wineshop where they were accustomed to stop each night upon their rounds.”

Mossador. Dany made a fist. (ADWD Daenerys II)

The queen flinched. Rylona Rhee had played the harp as sweetly as the Maiden. When she had been a slave in Yunkai, she had played for every highborn family in the city. In Meereen she had become a leader amongst the Yunkish freedmen, their voice in Dany’s councils. (ADWD Daenerys II)

“A girl I thought I’d saved from rape and torment. All I did was make it worse for her in the end. And all I did in Astapor was make ten thousand Eroehs.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

Dany's trauma from all of her losses doesn't mean that she was doing the right political choices, but it does make them understandable and sympathetic. What's more, her mistakes stemmed from a genuine desire to do good for these people and to prevent more from dying, which is a major reason why Dany is a good queen (I'll elaborate more on why in a later section):

Now, which of Dany's mistakes had international repercussions? This post lays them out well, so check it out. They boil down to three:

Not leaving a garrison in Astapor to protect the council she installed (which indirectly caused atrocities like the political chaos that arose with Cleon's ascent and, later, Astapor's fall).

Leaving the wealth of the Yunkish slavers intact (which indirectly caused atrocities like Astapor's fall and the upcoming Battle of Fire).

Leaving the wealth of the Meereenese slavers intact (which indirectly caused the Sons of the Harpy's attacks; I've talked about how Dany handled them here).

Are these mistakes understandable? Yes. First, she is a 15-year-old with no experience or formal education to properly understand how these solutions were insubstantial. In fact, her situation seems pretty much unprecedented in scale in this universe.

Second, as @rainhadaenerys pointed out before here, Dany may be fighting for the freedmen, but she is still part of the nobility and would not consider depriving them of their resources right away. Indeed, she and her family had their resources taken away and she lived in poverty and fear because of it. Both her background and the previous losses I noted above must be taken into consideration to make sense of her mistakes.

If these were pretty much the only errors that had international repercussions and that Dany should be held 100% accountable for, why does she receive so much criticism from the fandom? I'll say it again: because many people are holding Dany accountable for the slavers' actions.

Here's the thing: Dany's actual mistakes (which were caused by her tendency to conciliate, not to be forceful) were not massive in nature; the consequences of her mistakes (caused by the slavers) were massive. But that's because her crusade was so unacceptable and detrimental for their way of living that they felt that they had to retaliate with a ridiculously high amount of brutality to exert their control. Therefore, her understandable mistakes initiate a large chain of events that might make her seem ineffective, but they were never her fault in the first place, they were the slavers'. She is not responsible for the choices that they ultimately made, even if she still had an indirect part (at best) in making them possible.

Why Dany is a good queen

Daenerys Targaryen is a good queen not just because her shortcomings are understandable, but because she also has skills and achievements of her own that deserve praise. To quickly sum them up before I lay them out:

She applies her critical thinking skills when she makes her decisions and doesn't rely on any single advisor's opinion, but on her own. We saw this before in her previous actions and we see this happen here as well.

She took measures that will influence the outcome of the Battle of Fire.

She took the first steps to improve the city's economy.

Her genuine compassion for the unprivileged informs every single decision that she makes, from her mistakes (already discussed) to her successes (which will be addressed here). I will discuss highlights such as her pro-freedmen decisions at court, her choice to lock the dragons and her efforts to help the Astapori refugees.

Most of the freedmen love Dany. She is not tied to them because of her heritage, but because she fought for their basic human rights and they chose her as their leader.

1) Critical thinking in her assessment of her counsellors' advice

If you made it until this part of the post, you already know that Dany analyzes the facts and considers the pros and cons in each advice before reaching a decision. This is something I've showed in other posts of this series as well.

Since Dany receives a lot of advice in her ADWD arc and since I've already talked about how she reacts to almost all of them, here I'm only going to reiterate that she dealt with the issue of marriage using her critical thinking skills and add more observations (to the ones already made from questions 9 to 11) explaining why. Not only this proves my overall point, it also helps to dispel the belief that Dany will be shown to be as out of control of the situation as Cersei was if it is revealed that the Green Grace is the Harpy and/or that the slavers were deliberately acting in bad faith. I don't think this argument holds up when you consider how she came to decide to marry Hizdahr.

Dany starts to consider taking a noble husband in ADWD Daenerys IV. That's because the Sons' killings continue and Yunkai has found several allies, so she feels that she can't fight enemies both inside and outside Meereen. The Green Grace suggests taking Hizdahr as a husband; these are Dany's responses:

“Ah.” Dany had been expecting this. (ADWD Daenerys IV)

“Why Hizdahr? Skahaz is noble born as well.” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

These passages display that:

Dany is aware that a marriage between her and Hizdahr would be advantageous to the Green Grace, so she questions in which ways she would benefit from it herself.

Dany is aware that the marriage would not solve all of the freedmen's problems.

Dany is aware that she would potentially lose the Shavepate's support, but that marrying Hizdahr would still bring her more rewards.

Later, she interacts with her suitor about their potential marriage. These are her questions:

“Why should the Sons of the Harpy lay down their knives for you? Are you one of them?”

[...] “Would you tell me if you were?”

“Why would you want to help me? For the crown?”

These passages display that:

Dany doesn't fully trust Hizdahr.

Dany recognizes that, like with the Green Grace, Hizdahr has a lot to gain with the marriage.

Then, as we know, she agrees to a marriage if he manages to stop the killings in the city for ninety days.

But then, one might argue, the Shavepate did warn Dany that Hizdahr was only able to end the Sons' activities because he's working with them. That she still chooses to continue her alliance with him makes her seem dumb, doesn't it? Well, not really if you take her actual line of reasoning into consideration:

Skahaz was convinced that somewhere in Meereen the Sons of the Harpy had a highborn overlord, a secret general commanding an army of shadows. Dany did not share his belief. The Brazen Beasts had taken dozens of the Harpy’s Sons, and those who had survived their capture had yielded names when questioned sharply … too many names, it seemed to her. It would have been pleasant to think that all the deaths were the work of a single enemy who might be caught and killed, but Dany suspected that the truth was otherwise. My enemies are legion. “Hizdahr zo Loraq is a persuasive man with many friends. And he is wealthy. Perhaps he has bought this peace for us with gold, or convinced the other highborn that our marriage is in their best interests.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

Dany's conclusion makes sense with the information that she has at this point. If dozens of the Harpy's Sons who were captured are blaming different people, it stands to reason that too many nobles are working concurrently against her, that there isn't a single overlord commanding everyone and that Hizdahr may have convinced them to stop their activities through bribery. In fact, even if she had found their leader (who might or might not be the Green Grace), would that have necessarily stopped the killings? It's highly questionable.

Even if Dany might be ultimately proven wrong, she made a reasonable guess based on what she knew. That's far from being dumb or ineffective and, again, it's not as if knowing that the Green Grace was the Harpy would solve everything.

Astapor's fall and the arrival of the pale mare are the events that ultimately seal Dany's decision to marry Hizdahr. That means that she followed Reznak's suggestion, but it can't be said that he convinced her since she distrusts him. What actually happened is that neither a siege nor battle were viable options to her. A siege would require more food and less enemies. A battle would require a larger military strength, as Dany reflects here:

“Meet the foe,” she echoed, “with the freedmen you’ve called half-trained and unblooded.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

“Or five. And if I give you the Unsullied, I will have no one but the Brazen Beasts to hold Meereen.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

“I cannot fight two enemies, one within and one without. If I am to hold Meereen, I must have the city behind me. The whole city. I need … I need …” She could not say it.

“Your Grace?” Ser Barristan prompted, gently.

A queen belongs not to herself but to her people.

“I need Hizdahr zo Loraq.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

In Dany's view, marrying Hizdahr and accepting a peace agreement with the Yunkai'i was the only decision that would guarantee the control of Meereen. It is ultimately a mistake for privileging the nobility over the freedmen, as I talked about above. Still, GRRM allows us to see that Dany ultimately failed (for now) and, at the same time, that she is capable of critically evaluating the advice that she receives. Indeed, even if she is following their advice, Dany does not trust Hizdahr or any of the nobles:

She needed Skahaz and the Brazen Beasts, and she had come to mistrust all of Reznak’s counsel. Beware the perfumed seneschal. Has Reznak made common cause with Hizdahr and the Green Grace and set some trap to snare me? (ADWD Daenerys IV)

“Do as you think best. But do it soon. If Hizdahr’s peace should break, I want to be ready. I do not trust the slavers.” I do not trust my husband. (ADWD Daenerys VIII)

Meanwhile, as we know, she trusts Barristan most of all and Skahaz more than the nobles (see the first passage above and here). It doesn't mean that she'll always follow their suggestions.

None of this is to say that Dany handled things perfectly. Again, she's very young and inexperienced and, because she just arrived in the city, ignorant in many ways. Aside from maybe not guessing who the Harpy was, she couldn't grasp the difference between marrying Hizdahr and marrying the Shavepate (which the Green Grace claims to be an obvious one if one knows their families and Ghiscari history in general), for instance. On the other hand, she grasps the cultural importance of the Temple of the Graces right away when she asks for the petitioners who bring her burned bones to swear a holy oath before the gods of Ghis (i.e., if they lie to her, they'll be lying to the gods as well). GRRM is a really great writer in that sense - he could have Dany be passive and overreliant on her advisors all the time (which is often how the show writers portrayed her), but he gives Dany many nuances that allow us to appreciate both her strengths and weaknesses.

So, to sum this up, Dany was shown considering lots of factors before she decided to marry Hizdahr. She recognized the advantages to the nobles, she pondered how she would benefit from it, she compared its upsides to the ones she would get (or rather wouldn't get) from a marriage with Shavepate, she maintains a healthy dose of distrust for the slavers, she considers the possibility of a single person leading the Harpy's Sons and concludes that there might be too many (which might be wrong, but isn't unreasonable) and she chooses marriage over both siege and battle for reasons already mentioned above. This case is representative of how Dany doesn't make decisions carelessly, but rather using her critical thinking skills. You can find more examples in this very meta and in the others from this series.

2) Her influence in the upcoming Battle of Fire

There's already a post about this, but, for the sake of comprehensiveness, I'll bring up what was said.

Dany was the one who created three companies of freedmen, who will all be useful in the upcoming Battle of Fire:

“My freedman—” Dany started.

“Bedslaves, barbers, and brickmakers win no battles.”

She freed Pretty Meris to negotiate with the Tattered Prince and other sellsword companies to switch allegiances to Dany’s side (and they will do so, as we know from the TWOW chapters). I've already commented on this instance above in the section "The consequences of Dany's choices and her reactions".

And she fostered the cooperation and unity of purpose that will help the freedmen to be stronger against the Yunkai'i. I will explain below how she accomplished this feat.

One should also go back to ASOS, since the Unsullied are only there because of Dany's intelligence and compassion, as I explained in this meta. No wonder they will only fight for her and not for a nobleman.

3) Reviving the city's economy

Meereen is certainly not in its best economic conditions in the beginning of Dany's ADWD arc. As we already knew from ASOS, the slavers "harvest[ed] all they could and burn[ed] all they could not harvest", so there were "scorched fields and poisoned wells" everywhere. And that's not even considering that the city "had been sacked savagely" during Dany's conquest (despite her attempts to restore order).

The reasons why Dany can't resolve these issues overnight in a clear-cut manner are laid out concisely in this exchange between Dany and Xaro:

“You spoke of help. Trade with me, then. Meereen has salt to sell, and wine …”

“Ghiscari wine?” Xaro made a sour face. “The sea provides all the salt that Qarth requires, but I would gladly take as many olives as you cared to sell me. Olive oil as well.”

“I have none to offer. The slavers burned the trees. [...] What of copper?”

“A pretty metal, but fickle as a woman. Gold, now … gold is sincere. Qarth will gladly give you gold … for slaves.”

“Meereen is a free city of free men.”

“A poor city that once was rich. A hungry city that once was fat. A bloody city that once was peaceful.” (ADWD Daenerys III)

As we see in this passage, the slaves and the olives were the main sources of income for the city. With Dany's abolition of slavery and the slavers' burning of the fields, however, both of them are gone, which makes it that much harder for Dany to restore order in the city. Of course, this is not to say that Dany shouldn't have done anything - not only the former slaves would have continued to be exploited and killed if she hadn't, but it's also important to remember that the slaves in Astapor, Yunkai and Meereen were willing to fight for their freedom and grateful that Dany chose to make that her cause. The problem is that abolishing slavery is not enough to help the freedmen because slavery was the basis of the society they lived in, and reforms from the economic to the cultural level will be necessary. It's impossible not to fail on some level in this situation, which makes it all the more admirable, especially for her time and place, that Dany decides to stay.

And so we see Dany taking several actions to overcome some of these economic difficulties in her first five chapters:

Thousands of slaves still toiled on vast estates in the hills, growing wheat and olives, herding sheep and goats, and mining salt and copper. [...] Dany had dispatched her tiny khalasar to subdue the hinterlands, under the command of her three bloodriders[.] (ADWD Daenerys I)

Beyond the eastern hills was a range of rounded sandstone mountains, the Khyzai Pass, and Lhazar. If Daario could convince the Lhazarene to reopen the overland trade routes, grains could be brought down the river or over the hills at need … but the Lamb Men had no reason to love Meereen. (ADWD Daenerys I)

“I am only a young girl and know little of such things, but older, wiser men tell me that to hold Meereen I must control its hinterlands, all the land west of Lhazar as far south as the Yunkish hills.” (ADWD Daenerys III)

“[…] [He was digging a] ditch, to bring water from the river to the fields. We mean to plant beans. The beanfields must have water. […] Meereen needs beans more than it needs rare spices, and beans require water.” (ADWD Daenerys III)

“We are replanting, but it takes seven years before an olive tree begins to bear, and thirty years before it can truly be called productive.” (ADWD Daenerys III)

“Our stores are ample for the moment,” he reminded her, “and Your Grace has planted beans and grapes and wheat. Your Dothraki have harried the slavers from the hills and struck the shackles from their slaves. They are planting too, and will be bringing their crops to Meereen to market. And you will have the friendship of Lhazar.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

Again, it must be emphasized that the city's economic situation only became as dire as it did because of the Meereenese slavers (and, later, the actions of Qarth, New Ghis and Tolos). Still, Dany is putting a lot of effort to revive the city's economy and guarantee that the freedmen retain their freedom. As we can see from these passages, she:

Successfully freed the slaves from the hinterlands (something she didn't do earlier because of her need to conciliate and make peace quickly), which is now "bringing their crops" to sell in Meereen.

Made an alliance with the Lhazarene, which allows her to reestablish the overland trade route through the Khyzai Pass and bring grains down the river or over the hills.

Ordered that irrigation canals were build to plant beans (which started to be planted two chapters later).

Is replanting olive trees.

Planted grapes and wheat.

Additionally, she also tries to sell what little the city has to offer (even if Xaro was ultimately not interested):

“You spoke of help. Trade with me, then. Meereen has salt to sell, and wine [...] What of copper?” (ADWD Daenerys III)

Dany wasn't responsible for the reasons that led to Meereen's lack of trade during her tenure.

Dany is responsible, on the other hand, for multiple efforts to improve a scenario that will take a very long time to be properly tackled. This can't be understated.

4) How her genuine compassion for the oppressed inform all of her decisions

Dany's genuine concern for the former slaves should never be understated; it informs both her use of force:

“Let them come. In me they shall find a sterner foe than Cleon. I would sooner perish fighting than return my children to bondage.” (ADWD Daenerys IV)

And her attempts to reform the city:

Dany did not know how to make him see. She wanted Westeros as much as he did, but first she must heal Meereen. (ADWD Daenerys IV)

At the same time, when this aspect is remembered, it tends to only be seen as a reason why she's a sympathetic character and nothing else. This is not entirely surprising, considering that many fans tend to mock those who have moral principles as ineffective in the game of thrones (see also Cat and Ned).

Still, this quality can and must be contextualized as part of why Dany is a good (but imperfect) ruler, which is what I intend to do here.

At court, Dany decides to give the freedmen and the nobles equal attention. This is unprecedented, which is clear from the fact that it departs from Reznak's advice (and is obviously a huge deal considering that the former were slaves not long ago):

Reznak would have summoned another tokar next, but Dany insisted that he call upon a freedman. Thereafter she alternated between the former masters and the former slaves. (ADWD Daenerys I)

In fact, she could leave the task of holding court to her advisors, but she chooses to listen to them herself:

“Ser Barristan,” she called, “I know what quality a king needs most.”

“Courage, Your Grace?”

“Cheeks like iron,” she teased. “All I do is sit.”

“Your Grace takes too much on herself. You should allow your councillors to shoulder more of your burdens.”

“I have too many councillors and too few cushions.” (ADWD Daenerys I)

She has many freedmen as advisors in her council:

Rylona Rhee had played the harp as sweetly as the Maiden. When she had been a slave in Yunkai, she had played for every highborn family in the city. In Meereen she had become a leader amongst the Yunkish freedmen, their voice in Dany’s councils. (ADWD Daenerys II)

Dany assembled her council to hear them. Grey Worm was there for the Unsullied, Skahaz mo Kandaq for the Brazen Beasts. In the absence of her bloodriders, a wizened jaqqa rhan called Rommo, squint-eyed and bowlegged, came to speak for her Dothraki. Her freedmen were represented by the captains of the three companies she had formed—Mollono Yos Dob of the Stalwart Shields, Symon Stripeback of the Free Brothers, Marselen of the Mother’s Men. Reznak mo Reznak hovered at the queen’s elbow, and Strong Belwas stood behind her with his huge arms crossed. Dany would not lack for counsel. (ADWD Daenerys III)

She frequently empathizes with the freedmen and makes decisions favoring them over their former masters.

This is Dany's decision after former slaver Grazdan (who is a relative of the Green Grace, so Dany would've benefitted from granting him his will) says that six young girls owed them gold because they learned their craft from an old weaver who was previously his slave:

“What was the name of the old weaver?”

“The slave?” Grazdan shifted his weight, frowning. “She was … Elza, it might have been. Or Ella. It was six years ago she died. I have owned so many slaves, Your Grace.”

I love how Dany punished him for forgetting the old weaver's name. I love that she recognizes the significance of remembering the names of the marginalized people who died. Any activist who deals with losses in the social movements that they are part of can relate to this. In Dany's case, she won't forget Eroeh or Stalwart Shield or Rylona and she certainly won't let the master forget the old weaver's name without suffering the consequences.

This is Dany's decision after Reznak says that the freedmen were disrespecting the traditions of the guilds for "carving stone and laying bricks" for a cheap price and calling themselves "journeymen" or "masters" and that the guilds ask for her to "uphold their ancient rights and customs":

“The freedmen work cheaply because they are hungry,” Dany pointed out. “If I forbid them to carve stone or lay bricks, the chandlers, the weavers, and the goldsmiths will soon be at my gates asking that they be excluded from those trades as well.” She considered a moment. “Let it be written that henceforth only guild members shall be permitted to name themselves journeymen or masters … provided the guilds open their rolls to any freedman who can demonstrate the requisite skills.” (ADWD Daenerys I)

Both Dany's empathy and critical thinking skills are at work here. She understands the freedmen's current hardships and she's aware of how prohibiting them from keeping this job could establish an unfortunate precedent in other occupations. However, because she also knows that there's inherent value in the skills of the guild members, she agrees that they are the only ones who should be called "journeymen" or "masters" ... as long as the freedmen are allowed the chance to obtain that honor as well. This scene showcases both Dany's intelligence and desire for equality.

When it comes to the casualties that happened during her tenure, Dany always holds herself accountable. One major example occurs right in the beginning of her arc with Stalwart Shield's murder. I've already talked about her reaction to it here and will reiterate: she refuses to forget his name, makes sure that he's properly buried and honored, increases the amount to gold to find his killer, forbids her soldiers to walk at night to prevent them from being killed, names a company of freedmen after him and thinks about him when she considers marrying again to maintain order in the city.

Other highlights concern her dragons. More and more people show up with charred bones, which leads her to make this decision:

“Three-and-twenty.” Dany sighed. “My dragons have developed a prodigious taste for mutton since we began to pay the shepherds for their kills. Have these claims been proven?”

“Some men have brought burnt bones.”

“Men make fires. Men cook mutton. Burnt bones prove nothing. Brown Ben says there are red wolves in the hills outside the city, and jackals and wild dogs. Must we pay good silver for every lamb that goes astray between Yunkai and the Skahazadhan?”

“No, Magnificence.” Reznak bowed. “Shall I send these rascals away, or will you want them scourged?”

Daenerys shifted on the bench. “No man should ever fear to come to me.” Some claims were false, she did not doubt, but more were genuine. Her dragons had grown too large to be content with rats and cats and dogs. The more they eat, the larger they will grow, Ser Barristan had warned her, and the larger they grow, the more they’ll eat. Drogon especially ranged far afield and could easily devour a sheep a day. “Pay them for the value of their animals,” she told Reznak, “but henceforth claimants must present themselves at the Temple of the Graces and swear a holy oath before the gods of Ghis.” (ADWD Daenerys I)

Many details can be gleamed from this passage:

With the increase of people claiming that their lambs were burned by her dragons, Dany is becoming understandably suspicious that they are taking advantage of the situation.

At the same time, however, her sympathy for them makes her prioritize the claims that were genuine (which she thinks are the majority) rather than the few ones that were false, so she still chooses to pay for their animals.

It's also notable is that GRRM contrasts Reznak's advice with Dany's ultimate decision. Because Reznak is a nobleman, he's used to mistreating the lowborn, so having them scourged wouldn't be a big deal. Dany, on the other hand, wants to be both just and approachable as a leader, so not only she won't punish them, she'll compensate them all, even if it includes paying people who were lying.

Dany's decision also showcases her shrewdness (already mentioned above): she doesn't just pay them, she also requests that they swear an oath before the gods of Ghis, making it clear that she's aware of the importance of religion in the city. If they lie to her, they'll be lying to the gods too.

But the most notable actions that Dany takes in order to answer for the dragons' casualties are taken after after she finds out that Drogon killed a child named Hazzea:

Her name had been Hazzea. She was four years old. Unless her father lied. He might have lied. No one had seen the dragon but him. His proof was burned bones, but burned bones proved nothing. He might have killed the little girl himself, and burned her afterward. He would not have been the first father to dispose of an unwanted girl child, the Shavepate claimed. The Sons of the Harpy might have done it, and made it look like dragon’s work to make the city hate me. Dany wanted to believe that … but if that was so, why had Hazzea’s father waited until the audience hall was almost empty to come forward? If his purpose had been to inflame the Meereenese against her, he would have told his tale when the hall was full of ears to hear.

The Shavepate had urged her to put the man to death. “At least rip out his tongue. This man’s lie could destroy us all, Magnificence.” Instead Dany chose to pay the blood price. No one could tell her the worth of a daughter, so she set it at one hundred times the worth of a lamb. “I would give Hazzea back to you if I could,” she told the father, “but some things are beyond the power of even a queen. Her bones shall be laid to rest in the Temple of the Graces, and a hundred candles shall burn day and night in her memory. Come back to me each year upon her nameday, and your other children shall not want … but this tale must never pass your lips again.” (ADWD Daenerys II)

This passage is similar, in many ways, to the one about the burned bones of sheep; both of them display Dany's compassion and intelligence:

Like in the previous moment, she is shown using her critical thinking skills: on the one hand, she is also suspicious of the man's only evidence being burned bones. At the same time, though, she recognizes that he would have told the tale while the whole audience was inside the hall if his desire was to tarnish her reputation.

Like in the previous moment, a nobleman urges her to punish the man harshly (because that's how the relationship between master and slave went). Instead, Dany would rather pay him the blood price, bury Hazzea's bones in the Temple of the Graces, have a hundred candles for her in her memory and compensate him for his other children as well. This speaks volumes about how Dany, as a queen, feels that she is answerable for all of her subjects' problems. This is remarkable for her time and place, in which people were bound by feudal alliegiances and places of origin. Dany's sympathy transcends both.

Her only request is that the man does not tell anyone about what happened. One could interpret this as her having political concerns in regards to her reputation, which is possible, but I think the main reason why she made that request was because she doesn't want any person to ever "fear to come to [her]". She genuinely wants to protect them, not harm them. She wants to be their mhysa, not the mother of monsters (as she sees it).

After Hazzea's death, she makes a remarkable sacrifice in her name and other potential victims: chain her own (dragon) children. It's not an easy decision to make due to the parts in bold below:

The Great Masters had used the pit as a prison. It was large enough to hold five hundred men … and more than ample for two dragons. For how long, though? What will happen when they grow too large for the pit? Will they turn on one another with flame and claw? Will they grow wan and weak, with withered flanks and shrunken wings? Will their fires go out before the end?

What sort of mother lets her children rot in darkness?

If I look back, I am doomed, Dany told herself … but how could she not look back? I should have seen it coming. Was I so blind, or did I close my eyes willfully, so I would not have to see the price of power? (ADWD Daenerys II)

But she makes it for the sake of her people. Was this the right choice? We don't know if she could have tamed them and effectively used them against her enemies, so maybe it was.

However, it must be reiterated that Dany is doing more than she ever needed to do. She didn't have to stay and try to bring order to the city in the first place. She didn't have to make so many compensations for Hazzea's father. That she does all of these things highlight her selflessness, but we shouldn't hold her in higher moral standards like she does.

All of this is to say that she shouldn't be criticized harshly if she eventually decides to let her dragons remain free. As I've already touched upon above, using her dragons won't necessarily result in negative consequences. Her main lesson in ADWD was that she had to have been more forceful, after all. Also, she was already doing far more than she had to and had no real moral obligation towards anyone (though she feels that she does). She didn't have to chain her dragons. And she certainly didn't have to delay her departure for Westeros:

“...I say, let this city be. You cannot free every slave in the world, Khaleesi. Your war is in Westeros.”

“I have not forgotten Westeros.” Dany dreamt of it some nights, this fabled land that she had never seen. [...] Dany set great store by Ser Jorah’s counsel, but to leave Meereen untouched was more than she could stomach. She could not forget the children on their posts, the birds tearing at their entrails, their skinny arms pointing up the coast road. (ASOS Daenerys V)

“My children need time to heal and learn. My dragons need time to grow and test their wings. And I need the same. I will not let this city go the way of Astapor. I will not let the harpy of Yunkai chain up those I’ve freed all over again.” She turned back to look at their faces. “I will not march.”

“What will you do then, Khaleesi?” asked Rakharo.

“Stay,” she said. “Rule. And be a queen.”

“No one will be left to die. You are all my people.” Her dreams of home and love had blinded her. “I will not abandon Meereen to the fate of Astapor. It grieves me to say so, but Westeros must wait.” (ADWD Daenerys III)

“What are you saying? Are you telling me you will not go?”

“I cannot go.” (ADWD Daenerys III)

“Lingering here will never bring it any closer. The sooner we take our leave of this place—”

“I know. I do.” Dany did not know how to make him see. She wanted Westeros as much as he did, but first she must heal Meereen. (ADWD Daenerys IV)

“Dorne is too far away. To please this prince, I would need to abandon all my people. You should send him home.” (ADWD Daenerys VIII)

Even if she decides to go back to Westeros, one must always remember that Daenerys was already doing more than she had to do by staying in Meereen; she was already doing a lot more than any of her contemporaries would do. Turning her eyes back to Westeros, at least by itself, does not mean that she is getting "darker", it just means that she is thinking of her own desires for once.

Dany's use of her own resources to revitalize Meereen is another one of the multiple sacrifices she makes for her people. The decisions made using her gold are both great political decisions and proof of her compassion, which shows that these aspects can (and should) go hand in hand in a great ruler. I've listed and talked about the moments where she's explicitly shown spending her own gold solely to help her people in this post. I'll sum them up here:

She promises to pay "good gold" for the short sword of Stalwart Shield and "one thousand honors" for information about the Sons of the Harpy.

She pays people affected by the actions of her dragons.

She sets up a camp and sends food to the Astapori refugees.

She is not bothered at all for having to compensate the Yunkish masters with "gold and gems".

She orders the food that would normally be thrown away to be given for the poor.

She seeks to strengthen her military forces to defend the city from the Yunkish masters and does not care about the price to do so.

@rainhadaenerys added that she also sent "gems and gold" to guarantee the alliance with the Lhazarene solely to improve the city's economy.

I still haven't properly explored the third moment of the list, which is one of the most notable examples of Dany's selflessness, so let's get to it.

After finding out about the pale mare's spread and the Astapori refugees' plight, this is Dany's first impulse:

My children. “They are coming here for help. For succor and protection. We cannot turn our backs on them.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

However, as both Barristan and the Shavepate note, the bloody flux is very contagious and could easily turn Meereen into a epidemic disaster like it did Astapor. So, Dany comes up with these ideas:

“As you say, then. We will keep them outside the walls until this … this curse has run its course. Set up a camp for them beside the river, west of the city. We will send them what food we can. Perhaps we can separate the healthy from the sick.” (ADWD Daenerys V)

Not only these are clever ideas (which she had without anyone's help), it's noteworthy that she's hopeful that she can allow them inside once "this curse has run its course".

However, as she finds out in the next chapter, these solutions weren't as successful as she hoped they would be:

The Astapori had no place to go. Thousands remained outside Meereen’s thick walls—men and women and children, old men and little girls and newborn babes. Many were sick, most were starved, and all were doomed to die. Daenerys dare not open her gates to let them in. She had tried to do what she could for them. She had sent them healers, Blue Graces and spell-singers and barbersurgeons, but some of those had sickened as well, and none of their arts had slowed the galloping progression of the flux that had come on the pale mare. Separating the healthy from the sick had proved impractical as well. Her Stalwart Shields had tried, pulling husbands away from wives and children from their mothers, even as the Astapori wept and kicked and pelted them with stones. A few days later, the sick were dead and the healthy ones were sick. Dividing the one from the other had accomplished nothing.

Even feeding them had grown difficult. Every day she sent them what she could, but every day there were more of them and less food to give them. It was growing harder to find drivers willing to deliver the food as well. Too many of the men they had sent into the camp had been stricken by the flux themselves. Others had been attacked on the way back to the city. Yesterday a wagon had been overturned and two of her soldiers killed, so today the queen had determined that she would bring the food herself. Every one of her advisors had argued fervently against it, from Reznak and the Shavepate to Ser Barristan, but Daenerys would not be moved. “I will not turn away from them,” she said stubbornly. “A queen must know the sufferings of her people.”

[...] Many shat where they slept now, too feeble to crawl to the ditches she’d commanded them to dig. (ADWD Daenerys VI)

So, let's recap:

Dany sets up a camp for them "beside the river, west of the city".

Dany tries to separate the healthy from the sick, but that meant separating family members. That was ultimately for naught, since the ones who were only sick at first died and the ones who were healthy got sick.

Dany sends "healers, Blue Graces and spell-singers and barbersurgeons", but they got sick as well.

Dany commanded them to dig ditches to defecate, but they started to do it where they slept because they were too weak to stand up and defecate there.

Dany sent the food that she could, but "every day there were more of them and less food to give them". Even sending the food was becoming hard, since some soldiers were becoming sick and others were attacked on the way back to the city.

This leads Dany to decide to bring the food herself, even while knowing all of the risks that doing so would entail. See what she also does:

There was an old man on the ground a few feet away, moaning and staring up at the grey belly of the clouds. She knelt beside him, wrinkling her nose at the smell, and pushed back his dirty grey hair to feel his brow. “His flesh is on fire. I need water to bathe him. Seawater will serve. Marselen, will you fetch some for me? I need oil as well, for the pyre. Who will help me burn the dead?”

By the time Aggo returned with Grey Worm and fifty of the Unsullied loping behind his horse, Dany had shamed all of them into helping her. Symon Stripeback and his men were pulling the living from the dead and stacking up the corpses, while Jhogo and Rakharo and their Dothraki helped those who could still walk toward the shore to bathe and wash their clothes. Aggo stared at them as if they had all gone mad, but Grey Worm knelt beside the queen and said, “This one would be of help.”

Before midday a dozen fires were burning. Columns of greasy black smoke rose up to stain a merciless blue sky. Dany’s riding clothes were stained and sooty as she stepped back from the pyres. (ADWD Daenerys VI)

So, let's recap:

Dany went to distribute the food even while knowing all of the risks. She also considered sharing the food equally twice.

Dany decided to bath an old man herself even while knowing all of the risks.

Dany burned the dead corpses (which could have transmitted the disease) herself even while knowing all of the risks.

Dany "shamed all of them into helping her". She had her fighting men help her to take care of people who she had no allegiance to and would receive no benefit from helping.

And look at her thoughts while she does all of the above:

I have no more help to give, Dany thought, despairing. (ADWD Daenerys VI)

“I will not turn away from them,” she said stubbornly. “A queen must know the sufferings of her people.” (ADWD Daenerys VI)

Bless me, Dany thought bitterly. Your city is gone to ash and bone, your people are dying all around you. I have no shelter for you, no medicine, no hope. Only stale bread and wormy meat, hard cheese, a little milk. Bless me, bless me.

What kind of mother has no milk to feed her children? (ADWD Daenerys VI)

“Go if you wish, ser. I will not detain you. I will not detain any of you.” Dany vaulted down from the horse. “I cannot heal them, but I can show them that their Mother cares.” (ADWD Daenerys VI)

We would be remiss if we were to think she had any obligation to help the Astapori refugees. Every single advisor, from the Shavepate to Reznak to Barristan to Symon (note that three of the four are anti-slavery) advised her to stop caring, but she simply can't do it. If Daenerys Targaryen is not a true queen, I don't know what she is. Which brings me to the next section.

5) She chose the freedmen and the freedmen chose her

Dany's love for the freedmen is returned with their love for her.

"Mhysa!" they called. "Mhysa! MHYSA!" They were all smiling at her, reaching for her, kneeling before her. "Maela," some called her, while others cried "Aelalla" or "Qathei" or "Tato," but whatever the tongue it all meant the same thing. Mother. They are calling me Mother.

The chant grew, spread, swelled. It swelled so loud that it frightened her horse, and the mare backed and shook her head and lashed her silver-grey tail. It swelled until it seemed to shake the yellow walls of Yunkai. More slaves were streaming from the gates every moment, and as they came they took up the call. They were running toward her now, pushing, stumbling, wanting to touch her hand, to stroke her horse's mane, to kiss her feet. Her poor bloodriders could not keep them all away, and even Strong Belwas grunted and growled in dismay. (ASOS Daenerys IV)

“Say the word, my sweet, and I will send you from this awful place. I will find a ship somehow and send you home. To Naath.”

“I would sooner stay with you. On Naath I’d be afraid. What if the slavers came again? I feel safe when I’m with you.”

Safe. The word made Dany’s eyes fill up with tears. “I want to keep you safe.” Missandei was only a child. With her, she felt as if she could be a child too. “No one ever kept me safe when I was little. Well, Ser Willem did, but then he died, and Viserys … I want to protect you but … it is so hard. To be strong. I don’t always know what I should do. I must know, though. I am all they have. I am the queen … the … the …”

“… mother,” whispered Missandei.

“Mother to dragons.” Dany shivered.

“No. Mother to us all.” (ADWD Daenerys II)

“Wherever the Mother of Dragons goes, the Mother’s Men will go as well,” announced Marselen, Missandei’s remaining brother. (ADWD Daenerys III)

"...Should you reach your queen, give her a message from the slaves of Old Volantis." She touched the faded scar upon her wrinkled cheek, where her tears had been cut away. "Tell her we are waiting. Tell her to come soon." (ADWD Tyrion VII)

Their eyes followed her. Those who had the strength called out. “Mother … please, Mother … bless you, Mother …” (ADWD Daenerys VI)

Daenerys Targaryen was wed, the guards on the pens had told them, laughing. She had taken a Meereenese slaver as her king, as wealthy as he was noble, and when the peace was signed and sealed the fighting pits of Meereen would open once again. Other slaves insisted that the guards were lying, that Daenerys Targaryen would never make peace with slavers. Mhysa, they called her. Someone told him that meant Mother. Soon the silver queen would come forth from her city, smash the Yunkai'i, and break their chains, they whispered to one another. (ADWD Tyrion X)

"Is it true?" a freedwoman shouted. "Is our mother dead?"

"No, no, no," Reznak screeched. "Queen Daenerys will return to Meereen in her own time in all her might and majesty. Until such time, His Worship King Hizdahr shall—"

"He is no king of mine," a freedman yelled. (ADWD The Discarded Knight)

Hizdahr's blunder with Grey Worm had cost him the Unsullied. When His Grace had tried to put them under the command of a cousin, as he had the Brazen Beasts, Grey Worm had informed the king that they were free men who took commands only from their mother. (ADWD The Queensguard)

This may be a show line, but it's accurate - she is the queen that the freedmen chose. What's more important, they chose her because she chose them. Because she chose to be held accountable for their protection:

"I was alone for a long time, Jorah. All alone but for my brother. I was such a small scared thing. Viserys should have protected me, but instead he hurt me and scared me worse. He shouldn't have done that. He wasn't just my brother, he was my king. Why do the gods make kings and queens, if not to protect the ones who can't protect themselves?"

"He was no true king," Dany said scornfully. "He did no justice. Justice ... that's what kings are for." (ASOS Daenerys III)

Dany didn't have to delay her arrival to Westeros, but she did. She didn't have to fight for the freedom of the slaves in Slaver's Bay, but she did. She didn't have to stay and try to bring order to the city, but she did. She didn't have to give the freedmen voice in her council, but she did. She didn't have to question these institutions and fight for these people; her contemporaries are only focused in their own regional squabbles and wouldn't lift a finger for the slaves ... But she did. I won't mention all of her sacrifices again because, if you've reached this far into the meta, you already know how the list goes on and on.

Dany did not just make what seemed impossible to come true in the birth of the dragons.

She made what seemed impossible to come true by choosing to do what's right and challenge half of the world and fail and try again and again.

She made what seemed impossible to come true by becoming the queen that this world needs.

#daenerys targaryen #asoiaf meta #valyrianscrolls #a dance with dragons #dany and her choices

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mashounen2003 · 3 years

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Sonic opinions - 4

Initially, the purpose of my fanfics was almost only to think of a possible continuation of the events of Sonic SatAM, adapting things from the Archie-Sonic comics (and taking some licenses in the process), and trying to better write Antoine's transition from his self in the cartoon to his self in the comics, give more importance to Tails and better portray his parents, Amadeus and Rosemary. But then I realized how abysmal the differences between the two versions of Antoine were, while it was also harder for me to think of a way to write Rosemary coherently.

In Antoine's case, lately, I came up with an alternative to make him develop and stop being what he was in the TV series:

Immediately after the original Robotnik has been defeated, Antoine leaves his team behind. He actually doesn't know how to fight, but he still has good marksmanship, so he becomes a hitman. However, he's eventually convinced to leave behind that life without honour, begins to train in real fighting skills and becomes a genuine Freedom Fighter once and for all. In any case, he develops an opinion of "the end justifies the means" and continues thinking it for the rest of the story, being critical of his former team; this, along with his lasting grudge against Sonic and Sally, leads him to fight against the Monarchy in the events of "Civil War".

As for Rosemary... I don't like to say it this way, but she was a total b**** in the comics. I came up with a way to show her in a better light, but in no way could it have worked with the comics' Rosemary as she was. I'll talk about it when I write my list of ideas for future fanfics.

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I also addressed Politics in that fictional universe, trying to avoid the way this was done in the comics: there, Ian Flynn created the Council of Acorn and portrayed it as a bunch of stereotyped useless politicians obsessed with controlling the heroes and barely concerned with their country's security, and I think Flynn didn't do it to actually enrich the comics' universe or to add depth to the story or to communicate certain political ideas, but only to give readers someone to blame.

In the stories I wrote so far, I didn't go deep into what happened with my fictional universe's Council of Acorn after its creation; however, I did address its origin, and in doing so, I didn't make the Bems involved. Look... In the comics, Tails's parents were inspired by the Bems to try to establish a Democracy in Acorn, and this entails some inconvenience:

The Bems are terrible people. They roboticized Sonic and Tails to make them fight Robotnik and Snively, in order to verify the robots were better than flesh-and-blood beings (if things had happened differently, perhaps Mobius's Robians wouldn't have been de-roboticized); their society is entirely made of clones and almost lacks variety, not only in terms of the physical but also in terms of people's ideas; their judicial system is quite f***ed up (at least according to our standards), and... *sigh* they're just the worst. These traits of the Bems had been developed when Karl Bollers wrote the comics, and Flynn should have considered that they’re technically canon before having Tails's parents claim to have been inspired by those aliens.

Even if we cling to Moral Relativism with all our strength, claiming the Bems are just "different" and have different behaviour, mindset, psychology and culture, this keeps making things complicated: applying something in one society, solely because it succeeded in another, ain't exactly something smart to do.

And the craziest of all is that it could have been avoided very easily: Flynn could simply have said there were previous failed attempts to establish a Democracy in other countries of Mobius and Amadeus & Rosemary had always wanted a change in the government system, had learned about those historical events and knew (or believed they knew, at least) how to do it right this time. Moreover, Flynn could have said the decade spent by Tails's parents with the Bems gave them a clue about what they should not do when finally returning to their homeworld.

I tried, in my work, to use this idea of Amadeus & Rosemary wanting to establish a Democracy in an attempt to succeed in what others in other parts of Mobius had failed throughout History. It was based upon what happened in the French Revolution (more precisely, the Jacobin period), the years immediately after the Russian Revolution, and mainly the First English Revolution: in 1648, the Monarchy was overthrown in England; the change was violent and chaotic, the government that took the place of the King ended up being also a despotic tyranny, and the final result was just the return of a King to power in 1660 (although, anyway, the Glorious Revolution established in 1688 the British parliamentary system as we know it); Thomas Hobbes, while watching those events unfold, wrote his book Leviathan, where he justified the need for an Absolute Monarchy by arguing humans were violent, selfish, chaotic and brutal by nature, so they had signed a symbolic pact where they ceded all their rights and their power to a single person in charge of ruling with an iron fist, in order to prevent humanity from destroying itself. In my fanfics' universe, it was mentioned those attempts at democratization in Mobius led to civil wars, ended with those same peoples clinging to ideas similar to those of Hobbes, quickly restoring the Monarchy and promising themselves not to try and establish a Democracy ever again.

I also mentioned the recurring conflicts between the Acorn Kings and the Southern Barons in the comics, as well as the connection between the Kings and the infamous Source of All, among other things. I also had Amadeus do what he should have done in the comics when he explained why he wanted there to be Democracy: to present historical events, such as those conflicts, the Kings' cult of the Source of All and the technological and cultural backwardness to which the people were subjected by them, as concrete examples of how the Monarchy had never worked well.

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There are several Sonic fans, including @toaarcan and @robotnik-mun, who argue Politics shouldn't have been addressed at all in Sonic stories. Also, the vast majority of Sonic fans claim each and every one of the attempts to make this series more serious were some of the worst things that could have happened, even the addition of more characters was nothing but a cancer, and everything should have remained "simple" or the Sonic franchise shouldn't have gone beyond what it was at the time of the classic Genesis games. I praise the stories written by @toaarcan, and I agree with many of the opinions of both him and @robotnik-mun, but with all due respect, I totally disagree on this particular point.

I've always believed that, if it's done right, any topic should be able to be addressed in any kind of fiction, and Politics is no exception; more exactly, I think an author has two options when writing a work aimed at children and young people: to write something super light and soft where no serious topic is addressed, or to "go all-in" and address all serious topics, leaving nothing out; this includes not only Politics, but also tragedies, the complexities of love, toxic interpersonal relationships (whether abusive or otherwise), bullying, mental illness, trauma (for example, that caused by war), societal issues, and so on. That's one of the many whys of my love for RWBY: there's nothing that web-series doesn't talk about. As for the proper and respectful LGBTQ+ representation, rather than a serious topic reserved for serious fictional works, it's a requirement every fictional work should meet, whether serious or not, especially in the middle of the 21st century (this is something I think my work didn't meet satisfactorily).

With Sonic SatAM and the comics, it looked like the second option could have worked in the Sonic franchise too, and the TV series did it right to some extent. Unfortunately, Archie-Sonic's writers almost never did things right in regards to relationships between characters: Ken Penders's work, in particular, is an example of how relationships should never be, and Flynn's attempt to talk about Politics was a complete disaster, not much better than Penders's heinous handling of political stuff, more similar to a very low-quality North-American political satire, even when the conflict portrayed wasn't of the "Right versus Left" kind but of the "Monarchy versus Republic" kind, which should have been much easier to do without ruining everything. The only ones who didn't fall into those same mistakes were Gallagher and Angelo DeCesare, the comics' first writers, but only because they chose the first option: to write stories that weren't serious at all... with the notable exception of "Growing Pains", the B-story of issues #28 and #29, a typical Shakespearean tragedy where they presented us Auto-Fiona, a robot replica of who would later be one of the most controversial characters in the comics.

This, coupled with the resounding failure of Sonic 2006, is the only reason why now almost everyone in the Sonic fandom prefers stories without anything serious and/or a return to the Classic Sonic era, with very underdeveloped characters who are turned into mere plot devices and are only a shadow of their former self or of what they could have been.

#sonic fanfiction by mashounen #sonic opinions by mashounen #sonic #archie sonic #sonic comics #sonic the hedgehog #sonic 2006 #ken penders #ian flynn #penders is an asshole #ian flynn is not much better #antoine d'coolette #rosemary prower #miles tails prower #amadeus prower #rwby #sonic satam

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tanadrin · 4 years

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Notes on some Rare Economic Systems (That Do Not Work)

A little more than two hundred years ago, the state of Kezaria was rapidly changing, but straining against a patchwork of antiquated laws supported by a corrupt government. The Kezarian parliament was filled with representatives of rotten boroughs, its aristocracy refused to endorse any kind of political reform, and its population was moving from the countryside to the cities as enclosures on the one hand and the growth of the urban economy on the other conspired to convert the country from an agrarian economy to an industrial one. Eventually, protests broke out which threatened to become a real revolution. Terrified of the consequences of such a revolution, the State Council of Kezaria forced through a series of reforms that included, among its provisions, a regular cash disbursement for the relief of the poor. As all this happened before Speenhamland, a prejudice against such a program had not yet been established in Kezaria, and the State Council was desperate for anything that would keep the government from being overthrown.

Incidentally, it worked, and though initially considered a minor provision, direct poverty relief became a cornerstone of Kezarian government. As the country moved further in a socialist direction–now through gradual reform aided by democracy, rather than revolution or the threat of revolution–this provision was expanded, and eventually enshrined in the Kezarian constitution. But some thinkers still considered the economic system fundamentally unjust; redistribution, they said, was not enough. It was still possible that wealth should be unequally amassed, that the resources of each citizen should be too different in magnitude, and therefore some would have unelected power over their fellows; and a state that was a democracy worthy of the name should make all its citizens equal in matters of money as well as law. And so in due course, all income *outside of* the Kezarian basic income was banned.

This is the Kezarian system as it stands today: each month, an account in every citizen’s name is reset to 2,000 Kezarian lions–although the lion no longer functions as a true currency, the name is retained for the sake of historical continuity. The lion may be spent, but not accumulated: an excess of lions, as well as a dearth, is wiped out at the end of each calendar month. As accounts may be held only by natural persons, no business has a single swan (the Kezarian cent) to its name, except what its managers and executives might pool of their common monthly resources. Transaction taxes are very high–as much as 20 or 30 percent of any purchase–in order to keep the lion in circulation, but nobody much minds, as they are not really losing any money in the long run.

The inconvertibility of the lion means that, naturally, tourism is nearly nonexistent in Kezaria, and all imports must be purchased by the state and imported using its foreign currency reserves. But the Kezarians seem content with their system, for they can look around at their neighbors and friends and politicians–all the people who *really* matter, after all–and be confident that no one is doing much better, or much worse, than them.

Miskando is perhaps unique in the world for being a modern, industrialized, and prosperous gift economy.

Miskando has few laws, not because its people are of an especially libertarian bent, but because informal rules in Miskandese culture to an unusual degree. Whereas the British have no need of a written constitution, because convention governs their parliament so strictly, the Miskandese have little need of written laws, because contravening the rules of polite society is unthinkable. Such behavior puts one in the same category as a child, imbecile, or foreigner; and if you truly do not know how to behave in a given situation, well, Miskandese bookshops do a brisk trade in manuals of etiquette, and the most popular section of the newspapers is invariably the one given over entirely to advice columns.

The commercial storefront in Miskando is in fact an evolution of the private home; as such, there isn’t a strict distinction between “house” and “shop,” and one observes the niceties of calling on a friend or acquaintance when one enters a shop, even if the proprietor is totally unknown to them. If you need something–a new hat, perhaps, or a week’s worth of groceries–the custom is that you wander into a shop and look about for a little while. The shopkeeper or the clerk will ask you if they can help; you must refuse at least once. When they insist (as they invariably will), you will begrudingly admit that there are one or two things you might want, and after a little back-and-forth and some polite chit-chat about the weather, you will gather the items on your list, enquire after your interlocutor’s health and the health of their children, and then depart.

The provision of services, even complex ongoing services, is furnished in much the same way. A bilateral relationship must be carefully cultivated between members of two different firms; as a rule, favors are exchanged, rather than contracts being made, and are never quite repaid fully: to do so would be to formally disobligate someone, and thus to end your relationship with them. This is seen as a terrible snub when it occurs between individuals, and when it occurs between businesses is usually due to one party incurring the other’s greatest displeasure

.Outsiders attempting to do business in Miskando have generally found the process bewildering, even those from politeness-heavy societies. The Miskandese, for their part, have adapted fairly well to commerce with other nations; after all, if they have need of hard currency, they usually have a friend who owes them a favor that they can ask.

In Gharat, all money is in the form of immense bronze pillars.

Long ago, it is said, the people of Gharat exchanged certain standardized, useful goods, like knives or wool cloth, whose value was widely agreed upon. These eventually gave way to the ancient Gharat knife-currency, a chunk of bronze of a fixed weight whose resemblance to the older medium of exchange was only passing. The real value was in the metal itself; and because of its weight, large amounts of these heavy pieces were often bound together to prevent theft.

One day, a thoughtful merchant had the bright idea of simply melting all his bronze into one enormous mass, which he could simply leave outside his house–after all, it was impossible to steal. Many others began to follow suit, and some began to craft the displays of their wealth into more elaborate shapes, and eventually, the tradition of the bronze pillar currency was enshrined. It didn’t matter that it couldn’t be transported; after all, the metal wasn’t *used* for anything anymore–the Gharati had by this time moved on to iron tools. And (so the Gharati held) assiduous recordkeeping meant that it was always widely known who owned what pillar, even if the pillar in question happened to be three provinces over.

The centralization of the Gharati nation in the 18th and 19th century and the codification of Gharati customary law necessitated the establishment of a centralized record of ownership of the pillars; and it was eventually discovered, to the horror of the nation’s leaders, that the records of ownership were, in fact, a contradictory mess. They *could*, perhaps, be sorted out, and the spurious claims distinguished from the genuine ones, but to do so would be to devastate the wealth of the nation: multiple ownership of the same pillars more than quintupled the country’s GDP, with some particularly contested pillars being owned by as many as fifty people. Perhaps they could keep the situation a secret; but if word ever got out, they feared, there would be chaos and riots as a result.

The solution came from Gharati religious law, which had always been rather more concerned with metaphysical matters over practical ones. One object, the scriptures said, might really be two, depending on how you look at it; so the Gharati lawmakers simply proclaimed all claims of ownership that had existed on a certain date, a few years previous, to be valid; and any *appearance* that one pillar might be owned by more than one person was, in fact, an illusion of the material world. Really, these were multiple pillars that happened to be superimposed on one another. They might *literally* be made of the same particles of metal, but they were *conceptually* distinct. There was some grumbling when this was announced–but no one wanted to risk losing the lion’s share of their net worth overnight, so it was quickly accepted.

Yet despite proposals, the Gharati have never made the shift entirely to a pillar-backed paper currency, or to a fiat currency entirely. After all, they say, money ought to be something *real.* A bronze pillar has mass and heft; and thus, it is possible to imagine, it had real value. To abolish the system entirely would simply turn the idea of money into a farce.

Clasimarion is, its inhabitants say, the most perfect place of liberty to have ever existed–even if they are all slaves.

The island of Usvasaari was settled by Tiravec peoples from the south, who founded the city; Clasimarion was a prosperous trade republic in its middle years, but declined as the mercantile empires around it grew, and its once-vaunted navy was unable to secure its trading rights by force. When the Third Bull Government was overthrown, a new order was proclaimed. The constitution consisted of a single line: “The forceful interference with an individual or their property may be met with force.” The state was abolished; henceforth the Clasmain common law of property was supreme.

Despite the cynicism of foreign observes, Clasimarion did *not* immediately collapse into anarchy. No warlord rose to power, no neighboring state invaded, and, for a little while, life continued much as it had before, without the burden of taxes or unnecessary bureaucracy. The former merchant-lords of the city managed their holdings without outside interference now, and any petty squabbles that might result in violence between their private mercenary corps did not interfere with life in the rest of the city.

This state lasted about thirty years. One day, a certain Orsil San, the last of an old Clasmain family now living abroad, discovered that according to ancient Clasmain law, his quintuple-great-grandmother had at one time owned all of the northern peninsula of Usvasaari, the very land on which Clasimarion was built. What had been thought freehold title, converted to allodial title at the time of the revolution, was in fact only on an indefinite lease to the government; and, the deed said, should the institutions of that government be dissolved, “all land, chattels, movable and immovable goods, and any other right of property within that domain, not held by persons outside it, shall revert to the San family."

This meant that all Clasimarion was the property of one man. And worse: because Clasmain common law had never abolished the condition of slavery (though it had been centuries since it had been practiced), and that slaves could not own property, all of the *inhabitants* of Clasimarion were his property as well, to dispose of, with absolute rights, as he wished.

And Orsil San did wish. He sold the deed to an overseas company, a fortune-cookie company called Voystaykan & Son, and retired to a dissolute life that ended when he fell off his yacht and drowned. Voystaykan sent a delegation to Clasimarion, contracts in hand, and all of the most eminent jurists of the city agreed with doleful solemnity: Orsil San had the right, and the contracts were valid. To rebel, to attempt to rescind the contract, to appoint a parliament or king to change the law, would be an intolerable violation of the constitution, an affront to the most deeply held principles of liberty. The entire city submitted without a fight, and became the property of the newly-rebranded Voystaykan Company.

The Company is not cruel. It knows that morale is important to get the most out of its property. The people labor by day, singing their work-songs and shanties, and they retire in the evening to adequate meals within their barracks. They have their games and celebrations. Life in Clasimarion is well-ordered, and peaceful. But the will of the city’s managers is an iron law. The CEO of the Company, like a distant god. The company’s property may supplicate before it; they may beg and plead and weep, but the law of that country is clear: they are objects of another’s rights, not agents of their own. They may hope, and they may dream; but their labor does not cease, and their fate is not their own to determine. And they may gaze out over the cold waters that surround Usvasaari, but they cannot leave. For what would they be then, but thieves stealing themselves away? To do so would mean that they despise that most important right of all, the right to property. It would mean that they hate justice and law and liberty above all. And whatever else it may be, Clasimarion is free.

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Little nightmares: the first lady of the maw, the sin of gluttony, and the true value of the children, part 1: The past (update, due to the events of little nightmares 2 I no longer believe in the seven deadly sins theory)

with the release of little nightmares 2 in 2020, many of us can now assume that the little nightmares world is being set up for a series of games to tackle a much bigger plot. Which is why I feel that its time to figure out just where the story of this world is headed. I have many theories for this series, but let me start off by talking about the “lady” of the maw, Six, what their connection is, and what its all leading up to. But most importantly, I want to try and make sense of just what the heck happened in the first little nightmares game! so strap yourselves in everyone, cause this is a long one! as such I will separate this post into 3 parts, links will be included to each part.

Now, In the first little nightmares we discover that the “lady” of the maw is revealed to have supernatural powers; she can levitate things, steal the life force from others and even turn children into nomes, telling us that things such as magic really do exist in this world

despite her deadly abilities the lady proves no match for sixes quick thinking in their final battle. Near the end of the game, six at last defeats the lady, and finally gets the chance to escape the god forsaken nightmare that is The Maw... ...unfortunately! six gets hit with one last hunger pain and instead opts to satisfy that hunger by biting and eating a piece of the ladys neck!. The lady quickly dies from her injury and in a bizarre turn of events, six seemingly inherits the ladys deadly powers. Don’t get me wrong, Six inheriting the ladys powers is a nice added twist, since six now has the ability to kill all those that tried to kill her. But as I watched six gracefully make her way towards the exit I began to wonder to myself.....how was it possible for six, a tiny little girl with very tiny teeth, to have the capability and strength to chomp on the ladys neck and leave a fatal enough wound for her to die from!?....unless it wasn't just six who had a part to play in ending the ladys life ...

Although it may seem like the first game revolved around six and the lady, we are all forgetting the fact that the story had another character hiding in the shadows, that character... is shadow Six.

shadow six has been seen by mainly us, the audience. Every time six has a hunger pain and begins eating to satisfy that hunger, shadow six appears and watches six eat her meal from a distance. But what exactly is shadow six? and why is it that six never noticed it was there?

Well let me start off by saying that I, as well as others, do not believe shadow six is really six, but rather some dark entity trying to take on the form of six. Some believe that shadow six is a representation of her slowly succumbing to evil. Others have even speculated that the little nightmares games have a connection to the seven deadly sins and that this dark figure along with the rest of the staff in the maw, each represent a different sin, maybe, but what if they didn't?

The only other times we see a suspicious dark entity appear in the game is when six is fighting against the lady. Every time six points the tiny mirror in her hand towards the lady, the lady yells out in pain then teleports away, leaving a trail of black smoke/specs in her path, this trail of dark specs is identical to the darkness that surrounds shadow six whenever she is on screen .

In secrets of the maw when the runaway boy gets captured by the lady, the lady levitates the boy into the air and a cloud of darkness begins to cover him, turning him into a nome.

When six inherits the powers of the lady, shadow six appears one last time, all be it very faintly (I cant see her in this picture, but its been verified that its there), and when it does, dark specks of shadow begin to surround six with a loud buzzing sound.

Where am I going with this?, what if the shadow six we have been observing was never a manifestation of sixs evil side, but rather a manifestation of the “ladys” powers following six around !.. If this is true, then what the heck kind of power is the “lady” using and how is it that it can manifest itself to do what it wants, it should be after-all powers that only the lady can control...unless their not. what if these powers were never hers to begin with? what if they were original someone elses?

Many people have theorized that the “lady”we see may in fact not have been the original “lady” of the maw. But if she really isn't then who is?. In little nightmares secrets of the maw, the antagonist known simply as “the granny” is believed to be the mother of the lady, and that this granny may in fact have been the previous lady of the maw... until she was overthrown and had her powers taken away from her...by her own daughter!, that daughter would of coarse be the current lady of the maw that faught six.

what makes everyone say this? well, in the game, as six makes her way up the stairs to the ladys room we get to see a variety of pictures hanging on the wall. Out of all the pictures we see, 2 of them have been talked about the most. The first is the picture of the lady and what appears to be four other geishas standing next to her, but have either been scribbled out or painted over in black.

the second picture, depicts a little girl in a yellow dress standing next to the lady

At first, many of us are lead to believed that this little girl is six. But I, as well as others, believe that the girl standing next to the lady is actually the lady when she was a child, standing next to the granny when she used to be the lady of the maw, so, what happened?

throughout the maw we can see various pictures, including more bizarre pictures of different geishas, (thank u animators for releasing these)

and even statues of different geishas

originally, fans believed that the granny was someone who valued her beauty but soon began to have fears of what would happen to her beauty as she grew older and older. It was then that the lady began to practice magic in a effort to find a way to make her beauty last forever. However, if their really were multiple geishas in the maw then out of all the geishas we have seen in pictures and statues thus far, its likely that the granny was never even the first lady of the maw...if so, then who was the one that practiced magic...who was the FIRST lady of the maw?

out of all the pictures we have seen, I’m guessing that the geisha with the red lips was the first lady of the maw, after all its her picture that’s hanging in the library in secrets of the maw. In librarys, its usually traditional for the pictures of the founders of the library to be hung up for everyone to see. So its possible that the first ladys picture was kept in the maws library as a reminder of who founded the library and the maw.

it was this lady that originally studied and practiced magic in an effort to find a way to remain eternally beautiful, . However, seeing as things such as eternal youth and eternal life are things not commonly obtained with good magic, perhaps as the original lady grew more and more desperate for a solution to accomplish her goal she began to dive deeper and deeper into darker, more forbidden forms of magic in her library.

eventually the original ladys search lead her to the one subject that would guarantee her results, demon summoning!.

Demons, in many folklore and religions, have always been depicted as evil entities who are more than happy to strike a deal and give a person whatever it is they want in exchange for their most cherished and valuable belonging, their soul.

The original lady could have discovered a way to summon a demon and when she did, she didn't just summon any demon. In her desperate attempts to satisfy her growing desire for eternal beauty, the original lady might have caught the attention of one very powerful demon...or rather...one of the 7 princes of hell, who are better known today as.... the seven deadly sins!... but which one?

In the game, gluttony had long been speculated to play a role in the maw. Many speculated that each member of the maw represented a different sin... however, what if they all represented a single sin... gluttony. In the game, Six, the guests, the staff and even the lady revolve around satisfying some sort of hunger or desire. So maybe years ago the originally lady struck a deal with the sin of gluttony to not only give her life long beauty but to preserve that beauty forever

however, these are demons we are talking about, if she did in fact make a deal with the sin of gluttony there must have been one or two major twists that came along with that deal, if so... what was the twist?. In secrets of the maw, when the runaway kid is sneaking around the ladys estate he comes across the current lady starring at herself through an unbroken mirror, its here that we finally see for the very first time the ladys face...except... we soon realize that despite her appearance as a beautifully masked geisha, the mirror reveals the ladys face to be a horrifically ugly creature ... and yet... something about this doesn't make sense...her mask.

the current ladys mask does not match her large facial structure seen in the mirror, and its not just her face. Her hands, which appear small and slender... appear long and pointy in the mirror. If this is true of her face and hands, then its likely that the rest of her body doesn't match either!

but why? and how is this related to the granny when she used to be the lady?

If the current lady has a horrific reflection, its possible that the granny and every other lady of the maw before her had a similar situation when they each used to be in charge, but why?

Perhaps when the demon granted the first lady eternal beauty and eternal life, the demon decided to put a twist to her wish by making it so that her beauty could only be seen by others and not by herself!...the first lady lost the joy of gazing at the beauty she prided herself in having, and instead was forced to look at a reflection that highlighted her true self....her true self being of course... a hideous monster. And it didn't just stop there..

in order to accomplish the first ladys deal the sin of gluttony must have decided to posses her! and rather than just stand idly by and let her continue on with her life, the demon forced the original lady to work for it in order to maintain the deal.... by feeding it!

(picture by Michael Breznau)

since a demon needs souls to be satisfied and not food like other living things the lady resorted to inviting others to her home... then later feed them to the demon inside her! Now clearly, after being pampered and feed, any guests/ customer would try to leave a business, however, the sin of gluttony didn’t want this happening... they had to stay. In order to keep the guests in the ladys establishment the sin of gluttony could have spread its influence to the guests, giving them a never ending appetite that could only be satisfied by staying in the first ladys establishment.

And when they did, the lady used the powers that the sin of gluttony granted her to suck out the life and souls from her guests...feeding them directly to the demon inside her.

Unfortunately, as the demons appetite grew more and more uncontrollable the first lady found herself taking more and more drastic measures to satisfy its hunger.

With all the spare bodies lying around, the first lady must have decided to use those bodies as food to expand her business, throwing away any form of clothing and luggage they might have carried elsewhere in the maw. The shoes and luggages of course, piled up over the years until it created a sea of shoes. This was the point of no return... the original lady was now feeding her guests to other guests!

If the guests were really eating other people this would explain why six never ate any of the food lying around the maw, she knew it was made of people!.

Having a life where you would have to work endlessly for a demon sounds horrible once you think about it, so then why, why did the original lady continue to do this even if it meant she could never look into the mirror and gaze at her own beauty? ....most likely because the fear of death outweighed every sense of desire to break the deal and face the consequences.

And while we are on the subject of her reflection, I couldn't help but think back to one small detail in the game. in the game six makes her way into a bathroom that reveals a suspiciously long mirror hanging on the wall.

when six broke the mirror, we discovered that it was in fact a fake two way mirror leading to a small room with a single chair in it.

In the firstl ladys desperate attempts to cope with having a horrific reflection she must have had a two way mirror installed in the bathroom so that whenever a beautiful woman guest gazed at herself in the mirror the original lady would be standing on the opposite side... staring at her... pretending to be looking at her own reflection as a way to cope with her hideous reflection.

when six enters the ladys residence its noted that throughout the rooms. broken mirrors can be found practically everywhere.

but as we have seen, not all the mirrors are broken. In the secrets of the maw, the runaway kid comes across the lady staring at herself in one unbroken mirror...which may possibly be the only intact mirror in the entire estate of the lady.

but why does she have this one mirror unbroken?... maybe after the first lady discovered she could never see her own beauty through a mirror...she broke every mirror she could find out of frustration...except for 2. Perhaps she kept one large mirror so that she could come back to it every now and again in hopes that one day she would wake up, look into that mirror and see that she is just as beautiful as she remembered. Years later, when the new lady of the maw took her place, the new lady would unknowingly find herself doing the same thing as her mother, and every time they did look into that giant mirror...they would cry...as they realized that they would forever be horrifyingly ugly. This cycle continued over the years as each new daughter took the tittle of “the lady of the maw” for themselves (I’ll get to the second mirror in a bit)

but why would each lady even take on a daughter that would one day overthrow her from her title of “lady”. Why would the daughters even agree to living their life forever beautiful in the eyes of others but never to themselves and forever a slave to a demon inside them....unless....they didn't know?

-end of part 1, continue in part 2

part 2 link: https://itstimetotheorize.tumblr.com/post/627840226274033665/little-nightmares-the-original-lady-of-the-maw?is_related_post=1

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Muslim attire in the EU

This is gonna be a guide to the bans (or lack thereof) on muslim attire in the European Union, country by country. Why am I doing this? Well, I’ve seen a discussion between that you can read here about the ban on hijabs in public institutions in Belgium and France and how that’s done in the name of “secularism” (it was all brought on because of a gift-set of Yasmina from wtfok, a hijabi muslim girl in a public school from Antwerp, Belgium) .

First of all, a disclaimer. I’m in no way shape or form an expert on this, I just have way too much time on my hands and want to understand the continent I live in and its relationship to Islam a little bit better. The information on here might be inaccurate or just wrong, I’ve spent only a few hours doing research, I know it’s not enough so if you know more be free to add your own info to this.

I wanted to do a European list in general but there are A LOT of countries in Europe, so I’m limiting myself to 28, I might do the rest of countries another time, this is just to give you (us?) a general view of the continent.

I’m gonna put links to EVERYTHING so that if you wanna read the whole articles you can do so, the info there is gonna be much more specific, for I’m only doing a summary of it. Most of my links are gonna take you to articles in English, but some of them will be in Spanish, French and Italian, for those are the only languages I speak, I’d love to read the articles about Germany in German because they are usually more accurate than those in English, but I don’t speak the language, so I haven’t.

Also, even though I feel pretty comfortable and confident in English it is not my first language (nor my second), so bear that in mind, there are gonna be some spelling and grammar mistakes, I’m sorry.

First of all, what is “secularism”? There are a couple definitions of the word that change it’s meaning, but I’m gonna use the definition presented by the Cambridge Dictionary, for I think it might be the most “european” one and we are talking secularism in the European Union, so, the Cambridge Dictionary defines “secularism” as: “the belief that religion should not be involved with the ordinary social and political activities of a country”.

Having said this, I’ll tackle each country alphabetically in English (I’m including the UK because they haven’t left the Union yet). A lot of the info is gonna be based in this article. So brace yourselves:

AUSTRIA

Islam in Austria is the first minority religion. 8% of the total population declared themselves muslim in the last census.

In 2017 the Austrian Parliament banned all those items of clothing that covered the face, a law that mainly affects those muslim women who wear hijabs and niqabs.

In 2019 the Austrian Parliament passed a law banning young girls (up to 10 yo) to wear hijabs at school. The fine for going against this law goes up to 440€.

You can read more info about Islam in Austria here and about the hijab ban here.

BELGIUM

Islam is the second religion of this country after Christianity and the muslim population of the country represents the 7% of the total.

(I want to note here that the Wikipedia page in French makes close to no reference to the hijab bans in the country)

I think this is the country who’s hijab ban is making more head-lines as of late because of their last ban on hijabs in Universities (as of 2020) but the first hijab bans in schools in the country were seen in 2005.

In 2017 the European Court ruled against two niqab-wearing (I couldn’t find the right terminology, if I’m not using this right, please tell me) Belgium muslim women who’d brought their country to court saying that the ban went against Human Rights.

The fines for not upholding this laws can go up to 150€ and can result in incarceration.

You can read about Islam in Belgium in French here and in English here. If you want to know more about the recent protests I’d recommend this article and if you wanna know about the ruling of the EU Court on the face-covering ban in Belgium, you can read this article.

BULGARIA

Islam in Bulgaria is practised by 15% of the population, it’s the second biggest religion in the country after Christianity.

On 2016 the Parliament of Bulgaria passed a law banning Bulgarian citizens from wearing burqas in public spaces, those who choose to oppose it will face fines up to 770€.

I haven’t seen much about Islam and Bulgaria, but the Wikipedia article is fine (you can find it here) and I also loved this article about how the Bulgarian government benefits from this ban (it could be applied to all the countries).

CROATIA

Islam is the second largest faith in the country after Christianity, but according to a 2011 census it only represents 1.47% of the population.

I haven’t been able to find any info about bans on either face-veils (burqas, niqabs) or hijabs, but the Wikipedia article if pretty good.

CYPRUS

Can I just leave it at “Cyprus is complicated af”, pretty please? Okay, the thing with Cyprus, without getting too deep into International politics, is this will vary depending on what you understand by “Cyprus” because if you ask a Turk, they’ll say there are two countries in the Island, but I’m gonna make this from the European POV, so the whole island is one country (please don’t murder me).

Islam makes up 18% of the population of the country (most muslims are in the northern part of the island, the Turkish part). There are no bans on muslim attire in the country that I know of.

If you wanna know more about Islam on the country I’d recommend this article, if you wanna know about the dangers of Imperialism and what the fuck is actually going on in Cyprus, this is nice. Oh! And this article about religions in Cyprus is good as well, but it’s in Spanish.

CZECHIA

So, Czechia (why is it spelled like this? why? I’ve had to check it over and over again!) so… Not much to say about this country (other than the fact that Prague might be my favourite city ever). Muslims only account for 0.1% of the population and I couldn’t find any bans whatsoever.

Oh! And its political leaders have proposed a ban on Islam itself, which isn’t Islamophobic at all!!! (according to their wonderful president refugees are colonizers, I love my continent :))

Okay, if you wanna read more about the whole Islam ban, this is a wonderful article to do so. And if you wanna know about Islam in the country in general, well, this isn’t the best Wikipedia article in the whole world, but it’s nice enough.

(I know my sarcasm is starting to show, I’m tired and I’ve only done 5 out of the 28 countries.)

DENMARK

And we’re finally here! The country with the little island for their muslim migrants!

Okay, joking aside, the muslim population of this country accounts for 5.4% of the total.

In 2005 the Parliament passed a law allowing businesses to ban women from wearing hijabs and on 2009 judges and jurors were forbidden to wear religious symbols. Some schools ban the use of head-scarfs. The fine for refusing to do so is of 1000 konner or 140 €. On 2018 they passed a law banning garments that cover the face.

This article is good for general information. And, if you want to know about the island, this article is good.

ESTONIA

Estonia has a very, very, very small Islamic community (0.1% of the total) and there’s not even one (1) Mosque in the country, although they practice in a Muslim Community centre.

Sorry I couldn’t find more info, you can read this, but it isn’t much.

FINLAND

Finland, 2.7% of the country’s population is Muslim. And… That’s all I could find? I’m sorry, really, if you want more info I can throw in the fact that “The Baltic Tatars” are a thing and they sound super cool.

Here’s the article.

FRANCE

Oh, France, the first country that used secularism to hide islamophobia, the land of Moliere, Champagne, my favourite cheese, Simone de Beauvoire… And the birthplace of the European hijab ban.

Okay, so things didn’t happen over night, in 1989 the French Minister of Education stated that it was up to the educators to accept or refuse the use of head-scarfs in their classrooms. In 2004 the French government banned religious symbols in schools and public places altogether (something that somehow only affects muslim women).

In 2010 dresses that covered ones face were banned (something that, again, mainly affect muslim women).

In 2016 there were very strong attempts to ban burkinis that were overthrown.

Oh! Muslims account for 8.8% of the total population in France.

To read more about Islam in France this article is good. And I’ve loved this article about the hijab in France. If you want something in French you can read this.

GERMANY

Muslims in Germany account for over 11.6% of the total population of the country.

In 2017 the government passed a law banning the covering of the face for soldiers and state-workers during work hours.

This article is great to get a superficial view about Islam in Germany.

GREECE

Muslims in Greece account for 4.7% of the population, I haven’t found much else other than the fact that there are two distinct groups, those who have been there since the Ottoman Empire and those who came in the late 20th century, early 21st.

I really liked this article, it’s not wikipedia.

HUNGARY

Muslims in Hungary make for less than 0.1% of the population. I haven’t found any information on bans on veils, but the country right now is ruled by the far-right and they won’t take any refugees (I know not all refugees identify as muslim but, believe me, in Europe everyone views them as muslim).

I got the info from this article, but I liked this article on Islam in Hungary much better, it just didn’t have the info I was looking for.

IRELAND

Ireland has a muslim population of 0.9% of the total of the country. Ireland is a fun country to do on this list because of the declaration from their Prime Minister, Leo Varadkar, in 2018, about weather to ban veils or not, stating: “I don’t like it but I think people are entitled to wear what they want to wear. […] I believe in the freedom of religion. I don’t agree with the doctrine of every religion or necessarily any religion, but I do believe in the freedom of religion.”

You can read more about Ireland and Islam in this article.

ITALY

Muslims in Italy represent 2.3% of the total population, in 2015, Lombardy (a region in northern Italy) banned the use of burqas in hospitals and local governament buildings. Anyway, this article gives you a pretty good overview on Islam in Italy and this one on the Lombardy burqa ban.

LATVIA

Muslims make up around 1% of the population in the country, I couldn’t find anything about bans on veils in the country, or Islam in general, but this article is an overview and this one talks about the experience of a muslim man in Latvia.

LITHUANIA

The only thing I’ve been able to find is that Lithuanian Tatars make for 0.1% of the population, but I couldn’t find anything about other Islamic families living in the country. You can read more on Islam’s history in the country in this article.

LUXEMBURG

The muslim population in Luxembourg accounts for 0.02% of the total population of the country, as fas as I know, there are no bans on veils, either hijabs or face-veils. So… Yeah, here’s a link, I couldn’t find much info on Islam in the country.

MALTA

Malta’s muslim community represents less than 1% of the country’s population.

In Malta, muslim women have to remove their veil when taking identification photos, but other than that, they can wear whatever they want, even though there was a proposal to ban burqas and niqabs in 2015, it was overthrown.

I couldn’t find much about Islam in Malta, mainly this article and this one about the proposal to ban full face veils.

NETHERLANDS

5% of the population in the Netherlands practice Islam according to a 2018 census.

In 2019 the Netherlands passed a law banning the use of burqas and niqabs, but not without controversy, Amsterdam’s mayor has opposed the law since the beginning and the actual enforcement of such law is in question.

You can read more about the history of Islam in the Netherlands in this article and about the ban on burqas in this one.

POLAND

Today, less than 0.1% of the population of this country declares themselves as muslim, but it’s one of the most Islamophobic countries in the continent, although I haven’t been able to find any bans on veils, probably because the majority of muslims are Lipka Tatars and the women of that group traditionally don’t wear hijab.

You can read more about this in this article.

PORTUGAL

The muslim population of Portugal represents less than 1% of the total, I haven’t been able to find any info on veil bans, but I got everything from this article.

ROMANIA

Muslims in Romania make up for the 0.3% of the population. As far as I’ve seen, there are no bans on veils in this country.

You can read more about Islam in Romania here.

SLOVAKIA

Less than 0.1% of the country’s population practice Islam and the country does not have a mosque. I haven’t been able to find anything about veil bans in the country, but they did ban Islam from becoming an official religion on 2016 and mosques in general (people worship in the Islamic Centre of Cordoba).

This is what I’ve been able to find about Islam in the country, this article is about the ban on mosques.

SLOVENIA

Muslims make up about 2.4% of the country’s population. I couldn’t find much else, and nothing on bans on veils. I got my info from this article.

SPAIN

Islam is practised in Spain by 4.5% of the country’s population.

Some cities in the country (such as Barcelona, Tarragona and Lleida) have banned the use of burqas and niqabs since 2010 and, although the Senat has pressured the government to do so nation-wide, their proposal didn’t pass the Parliament nor the Government itself, no no action has been taken.

(Also, I’ve seen people in both burqas and niqabs in Barcelona, so I don’t know if the law is being applied)

Finding info on Islam in Spain is tricky because most articles talk about the 12th century and things like that, but this one in Spanish is pretty good.

SWEDEN

Sweden’s muslim population makes up for 8.1% of the total. In 2019 a few municipalities banned the use of the hijab in educational institutions.

You can read more about all of this here.

UNITED KINGDOM

Muslims represent 4.4% of the total population in the UK and there’s no law banning islamic dress.

You can read more about this here.

THE EUROPEAN UNION AND ITS VALUES

I know many defend the banning of such items of clothing stating that secularism is a European value, so I took the liberty of going into the EU official site and look up its values (you can find it all here). This are the values of the EU:

Human dignity

Freedom (yeah, freedom of religion and expression are included within the EU’s definition of freedom)

Democracy

Equality

Rule of law

Human Rights (again the right to be free of discrimination because of religion is here)

So, no “secularism” isn’t a European value, freedom of expression and of religion and faith are. So, although the EU has ruled in favour of this bans multiple times, those are not upholding European Values.

Also, I’ve been very careful to put the years all this bans have been approved because, if you look closely, you’ll see that these bans are the outcome of the Islamophobia, xenophobia and radicalism that has taken Europe (and the west) by storm after 9/11 and the Mediterranean Migratory Crisis.

OTHER RANDOM THINGS I’VE SEEN, LIKED BUT DON’T KNOW HOW TO WORK INTO THIS LONG ASS POST

I really liked this article about how Europe banned veils and now face-masks are mandatory in most places.

This article also touches on Turkey, Russia and other European countries.

I love this article about how wearing a hijab in a lot of places of Europe has become a symbol of resistance.

A LITTLE NOTE FROM ME TO YOU

If you have gotten this far, I’m honestly surprised, I did this more for myself than others, but I really wanted to share it once it was done. Hope you’ve enjoyed it and learned something from it. I love you all 💜

#islam in europe #skam españa #wtfock #skam #skam nl #skam italia #skam france #druck #hijab #hijab ban

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It seems starting with Sozin we have four Fire Lords and each seem to destroy or try to destroy the cultures or people in the Avatar cycle in order. Granted we do know Sozin and (I highly suspect Azulon) were doing this because of the Avatar cycle but it’s still interesting in a completely morbid way.

Sozin of course destroyed all but one of the Air Nomads, the very one of course he was trying to get, and was a pretty old man it seems when he accomplished that.

It was decades after this it seems (GranGran/Kanna and Hama have only known a world at war) that Azulon, then as Fire Lord seemed to turn his eyes to the Southern Water Tribe. These were in the raids in which Hama was captured, and are the reason Katara is the only waterbender there, and also a reason why Katara’s mother died when she pretended to be the last waterbender. The SWT is also a culture which has deeply suffered from the Fire Nation, only being more together than Aang’s culture to the point Sokka is calling water bending just magic water.

The Southern Raider leader is quite old, and definitely one of Azulon’s own. It wouldn’t surprise me if Azulon thought his father had succeeded in killing the Avatar and simply not realised it. Perhaps even reasoning if (being unaware of the waterbenders in the swamp) that the Northern Tribe, being larger and stronger even before the SWT was decimated, would have shown off their new Avatar had they been reborn. But the SWT, being smaller might be a bit more quiet about it. Korra is even born from the SWT so perhaps Azulon or someone was aware of something others weren’t there with regards the cycle. Who knows.

Azulon may have even been a bit more... thoughtful on this idea than his father, reasoning that if he killed the waterbenders, the avatar, if among them would simply be reborn in the Earth Kingdom after all. So he kept them all alive: just in case.

Zhao (also someone who spent the majority of his military career under Azulon first) even expresses this as a reason in The Blue Spirit that he won’t kill Aang but keep him alive “but just barely”. No doubt if Zuko hadn’t come in, Aang might have experienced something akin to Hama’s capture in my opinion.

We even have Zhao as a possible indication he was interested in the Water Tribes in general: Zhao certainly started his military career during Azulon’s reign, and his attempts to destroy the moon spirit seems to have been an idea for a long time- given the fact he looked to be a fairly young man when he visited the library. Perhaps it’s something he looked into to get into Azulon’s good books in addition to his desire to go down in history. Azulon in his efforts may not have completely destroyed Water Tribe culture but he has basically almost destroyed the SWT, and even when the NWT goes to rebuild it won’t ever be quite the same as it was. (After all, so many people were killed or captured and probably all died: and being a world apart there will have been differences, things only GranGran the eldest can recall, and also being a NWT member herself cannot hope to be accurate).

And of course then we get to Ozai, and what culture does he try to decimate or destroy upon the comets return? The largest of them all. The Earth Kingdom. He wishes to burn it to ash, and to make a new world out of the ashes. Aang of course prevents this and takes the power to do this away from him.

Finally we come to Azula, made Fire Lord upon Ozai’s self promotion to Phoenix King who tragically also shows the result of what would have happened anyway had Ozai succeeded. In the end Azula is breaking down, she’s banishing people left and right from the Fire Nation. She can’t feel she can trust anyone, and she certainly doesn’t trust her father.

In the end, left to its own devices, having destroyed everyone else, the Fire Nation would have eaten itself. No doubt if not Zuko’s attempt for the throne, she’d have been overthrown by someone in some other way given how she was acting. Civil war would have likely resulted. The Fire Nation is so sure of their own superiority and yet what would eventually happen when they’d have no-one to look down upon but each other?

A country geared towards war and made to do nothing but war can’t really survive for long on its own. It would die screaming at nothing but its own reflection in the dark.

#atla #atla meta #sozin #azulon #ozai #azula

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AliHaku for the ship meme! OwO

I’m honestly so stoked that you sent me this ask, I have missed Alihaku and will do my best to do them justice!

Who’s the werewolf and who’s the hunter?

Alibaba is the werewolf, and Hakuryuu is the hunter.

Alibaba lives with a small pack in Balbadd with Kassim, Mariam, Hassan and Zaynab, and as of the beginning of the tale has no idea he’s the prince of Balbadd.

Hakuryuu is the youngest prince of the Kou Empire and has no chance at the throne, so he has unofficially been given the title of royal supernatural hunter and been assigned to investigate and contain (however euphemistically that means depends on the means of containment Hakuryuu is told to utilize) whatever supernatural forces occupy the lands they conquer.

He resents the job, and the brothers who have assigned it to him, more than he can say.

Kassim, of course, will always have that revolutionary spirit to him, so when Hakuryuu notices the local werewolves begin to whisper of an uprising against the Kou Empire, he is told to contain it with extreme prejudice.

However, the first werewolf he actually speaks to ends up being Alibaba, who saves him from another werewolf from a rival pack, and Alibaba, being the friendly and naive sort, welcomes Hakuryuu into his home while they both nurse their wounds.

Over the weeks it takes for them to recover, they get to know each other and genuinely fall for each other… and then Hakuryuu finds out two things: one, Alibaba’s the leader of the revolutionary forces rather than Kassim, who he initially suspected, and two, Alibaba is the lost prince of Balbadd.

Also, as it turns out, Kassim had turned the young prince Alibaba into a werewolf to save his life after Al-Thamen’s initial attack on Balbadd five years prior to the beginning of this tale (and the werewolf bite had the unfortunate side effect of amnesia).

After calling Kassim out for not telling Alibaba of his true heritage, Hakuryuu learns from Kassim that Al-Thamen is a still a strong presence in Balbadd and would have killed werewolf!Alibaba within the week had Alibaba returned to the palace.

Therefore, Hakuryuu allies himself with the revolutionaries, and they eventually overthrow Al-Thamen and create a far more equitable alliance between the Kou Empire and Balbadd… one bound by a wedding between Alibaba and Hakuryuu.

Who’s the mermaid and who’s the fisherman?

Hakuryuu’s the merman prince, and Alibaba’s the fisherman who stumbled upon this prince in search of revenge.

Hakuryuu has to nurse his wounds after a failed attempt to retake his kingdom from his mother, who’s possessed by an evil spirit within the ocean.

Alibaba nurses him back to health, finding a cavern Hakuryuu could hide in and chatting with him during a pit stop he takes every day.

They fall deeply in love with each other, but Hakuryuu is told that in order to gain an alliance with the country Alibaba is from, he must marry their royalty.

Alibaba promises to help any way he can, but is taken away by the guards before he can do anything.

The guards drag him to the palace, and Alibaba expects to be executed, only to find a glimmer of happy recognition in the king’s eyes: turns out Alibaba is King Rashid’s illegitimate son.

Alibaba asks his father if he has specified which royal would marry Prince Hakuryuu of the Deep, and Rashid says he hasn’t; Alibaba immediately volunteers for the position, and Rashid sighs in relief; he hadn’t been looking forward to asking either Ahbmad or Sahbmad to part with their lovers for an arranged marriage.

Hakuryuu is resigned to killing either the royal he is assigned to marry or himself rather than gaining the alliance through a loveless marriage, so imagine his shock when the royal he’s to be wed to is the fisherman he had fallen madly in love with.

After a joyous reunion, they are swiftly wed, and Alibaba and Hakuryuu work together to regain Hakuryuu’s kingdom and even save Hakuryuu’s mother from the evil spirit that had been possessing her.

Who’s the witch and who’s the familiar?

Hakuryuu’s the witch, and Alibaba’s the familiar.

Alibaba’s a familiar who can shift into various animals, most often either a cat, a salamander or a golden retriever.

Hakuryuu specializes in life magic, and he uses his powers to create various remedies and prosthetics for people.

Alibaba’s dog form is often used as a therapy dog, and he is beloved by all Hakuryuu’s patients.

Alibaba’s human form, however, is most beloved by Hakuryuu himself.

Who’s the barista and who’s the coffee addict?

Hakuryuu’s the barista, Alibaba’s the coffee addict.

Being a barista is Hakuryuu’s first job after graduating college, and his family has pointedly told him to use it to improve his social skills.

Hakuryuu does come to like his job, especially when he’s allowed to bake some pastries for the shop, and especially whenever one of the regulars shows up.

Alibaba comes to the coffee shop every Monday through Friday at 2:47pm on the dot, near the end of Hakuryuu’s shift.

Much to Hakuryuu’s surprise, it’s the one thing on Alibaba’s schedule that he religiously follows (he’s generally late to everything else on his schedule, but never for Hakuryuu’s coffee and final batch of fresh madeleines for the day).

Turns out Alibaba is an up-and-coming wholesaler for fabrics and other decorative items for clothing, and Hakuryuu is shocked by the world Alibaba speaks of and brings him into afterward.

They eventually find themselves chatting after Hakuryuu’s shifts end (at 3:15pm), and Hakuryuu sees to it that Alibaba better manage his time, while Alibaba helps Hakuryuu loosen up and make friends.

Eventually they recognize their feelings for each other and ask each other out. Eventually.

But wait… there’s more! Under the cut, of course!

Who’s the professor and who’s the TA?

Alibaba’s the professor, Hakuryuu’s the TA.

Alibaba is a brilliant but scatterbrained international economics professor who regularly goes off tangent with stories of “the absolute best muhammara I have ever tasted in this small restaurant in Syria”, soldiers who could carry a tune better than most opera singers he knew, and of course his many romances with people around the world, all embarrassingly failed.

Hakuryuu is the equally brilliant but extremely disgruntled TA who has to keep Alibaba on track.

Much to Hakuryuu’s surprise, Alibaba and his classes remain extremely popular even with his ramblings. He initially suspects that it’s because he’s an easy A, but after the first round of graded essays that resulted in only 1 A and 2 A- in a class of 100, Hakuryuu’s mind is changed.

Alibaba helps Hakuryuu with his doctoral thesis from time to time, and Hakuryuu learns why Alibaba consistently rambles in his classes (and why even though he’s only a year older than Hakuryuu he’s already on the brink of getting tenure): he tells the stories to remind the students that yes, we are dealing with international economies, but there are people, real life human people, at the center of them all.

Hakuryuu and Alibaba fall deeply for each other, but they don’t date until after Hakuryuu finishes his doctorate and becomes a fellow professor.

Then they become rival professors… and hilarity ensures.

Who’s the knight and who’s the prince(ss)?

This can honestly go either way with the two of them, especially since they’re both princes in canon, but I think for the sake of this ask, Alibaba’s the knight and Hakuryuu’s the runaway prince.

Hakuryuu and Alibaba ran from their country once Hakuryuu’s father was violently overthrown, and they end up taking care of each other on the road.

They find their way to Alibaba’s home country, where they recover with the help of Prince Kassim and Princess Mariam (they both love Alibaba as a brother).

Hakuryuu initially clashes with Kassim, but eventually they come to an understanding and an alliance, which helps Hakuryuu retake the throne a few years later.

Alibaba is torn between his love for Hakuryuu and his love for his home country at one point, but that ends up being resolved when the terms of the alliance between their countries are laid out: Hakuryuu and Alibaba are to be wed, and if Kassim finds out that Hakuryuu has hurt Alibaba, war will quite literally ensue.

Alibaba then chides Kassim for being an overprotective king.

Who’s the teacher and who’s the single parent?

Alibaba is the teacher, and Hakuryuu’s the single parent.

Hakuryuu and Morgiana were previously married, but after having their daughter Ymir, they came to the realization that their marriage was more lavender in nature than either of them anticipated.

Therefore, they divorced on the most amicable of terms, and Hakuryuu gained primary custody of Ymir (Morgiana and her girlfriend Myron happily see Ymir on weekends and holidays).

Alibaba is the drama teacher at Ymir’s high school, and the plays he puts on are… extremely ambitious for the funding they get.

Ymir is a very talented albeit very shy actress, and Alibaba is one of the only people who can bring her out of her shell. The friends she makes in her drama class are the only other ones who see her outside her shell.

Hakuryuu initially doesn’t see the point in her taking drama as an after-school elective when mock UN, mock trial, or any sport at all would get her noticed more quickly by better colleges, but Alibaba angrily insists he sit in on one of their rehearsals.

Hakuryuu is pleasantly surprised to watch an expressive, passionately talented, and most of all happy Ymir rehearsing on the stage.

“You notice it too, don’t you? Your daughter is an excellent actress, and I think she could make it big with the right support.”

Ymir and the students also notice something… a possible spark between the drama teacher and Ymir’s dad…? Cue the fan fiction.

The whole class cheers when after Ymir graduates senior year with a full ride to Tisch School of the Arts, Alibaba and Hakuryuu finally get together.

Who’s the writer and who’s the editor?

Alibaba is the writer, and Hakuryuu is the editor.

Alibaba originally got discovered through his excellent Adventures of Sinbad fan fiction, and Hakuryuu is there to “help him transition from fan fiction writing to original writing”.

“You do realize that I know how to write, right?” “I wouldn’t be here otherwise, Alibaba.”

After tense beginnings, they eventually get comfortable with each other, and they also grow fond of each other.

Hakuryuu helps Alibaba with his world-building and time management, and Alibaba helps Hakuryuu with editing his other projects from time to time… Alibaba’s character work is excellent, after all.

Alibaba’s novels are eventually published to rave reviews, and Hakuryuu is saddened at the prospect of having to let him go… at which point Alibaba immediately asks him out on a date and all is well.

#alihaku #hakuali #this was so much fun to write #but wow that took me a couple hours LOL #these will take quite a while #but send them my way anyway #magi the labyrinth of magic #OMG I just realized... no crossovers this time!#OMG RAPHIDAE CAN ACTUALLY CREATE STORIES WITH NO CROSSOVERS #IT'S A MIRACLE #dodo rambles

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Pride and Prejudice

TITLE: Pride and Prejudice CHAPTER NO./ONE SHOT: Chapter 35 AUTHOR: wolfpawn

ORIGINAL IMAGINE: Imagine Loki was raised on Jotunheim as Laufey’s son after the war, but an agreement was then made that he would wed Odin’s daughter so Odin could secure the alliance of Jotunheim through the marriage. Loki, in turn, was raised to be king of Jotunheim, but how he views Asgard is far different from how Odin’s daughter is raised leading to a clash of cultures as well as uncertainty between the pair of betrothed youths. RATING: Mature NOTES/WARNINGS: Forced Marriage, not all fun and games. My first real step back into the Loki scene in over a year.

Tags - @skulliebythesea @asimovethroughthisworld @blackcherry26-blog @we-shadowhunter2901

“You will be staying here.” The mere manner in which Loki spoke those words told all present there would be no negotiation with regards the matter. The fear and horror in his eyes only added to it.

Thor looked between his sister and her husband, concerned by the manner in which Loki spoke, not as though he was making an order simply because she was a woman but because of the manner in which he said it showed genuine fear. Before anyone could say anything else, he decided to speak, noting the odd look in Ella’s eyes telling him that she needed to speak with him. “Ella, I must speak with you with regards to something Mother gave to me to give to you.” He eyed Loki as he stated it. "In private."

“Very well, but only for a moment, I need to speak with Loki before he goes too.” Ella indicated to a small side room. “Did she even give you something?”

“Yes, this letter.” Thor handed her the piece of paper, folded and sealed with his mother’s magic. “What is afoot here?” “Too much to explain now but the short version there has been a slight issue with the eldest Laufeyson, Byleistr, who has taken a mate that is socially, though not strictly, out of bounds and has been sent to a far corner of the realm to quell unrest there but if I am honest, this news seems more unsettling now.” “How is something like taking a mate socially but not strictly out of bounds?”

“Focus Thor, time is of the essence.”

Thor forced his thoughts of the matter from the forefront of his mind. “Do you think him to be part of it?” “I don’t know but we cannot rule it out.” “He would hardly do something to his own brothers.” “He took the love of one, so I would not put much past him.” Ella wandered over to a table that had an ice vase on it and in it, some of her favourite ice flowers. “Jotunheim is at a delicate stage. It is growing well but the growth could so easily cease if the current path is altered. Loki is seen as integral to this growth, now he and Helbindi will be gone and I worry what this will mean. Most know that his part in the realm’s growth is through the arrangements made with Asgard, something that has its objectors, so with him on a battlefield, it would not be too hard to make his end seem so tragic and him to be nothing more than a tragic casualty of war, Helbindi too. They are not hardened and experienced soldiers, it would seem logical that come a large battle, they could be two to high status kills that could easily occur. That leaves me, here, on the realm of the now enemy of Asgard again. A bargaining chip at best, or a loose end in need to tidying up, guaranteeing Loki’s line is demolished, no contenders, no competition.” She toyed with one of the flowers as she spoke, feeling the petals as she explained to her brother the concerns that she now had.

“Would the realm turn so easy?” “You came here, you demanded they come and fight by Asgard’s side. If they were to be slain, you would have cost the realm two of its princes. For Asgard’s actions, in their grief, even those who would rather Loki on the throne, who are happy with this alliance, they would see it as justice, until they mourn as one should and they realise it is wrong but my head and body would long have parted ways by then and there are a lot of spells for a lot of things but I never found one to reverse that.” She ceased toying with the flowers and turned to face Thor again. “Do I think that Byleistr is indeed doing this? No. But…” “There is a chance.” Thor finished her sentence for her. “Father always said it, to assume every scenario, especially the worst and prepare for it, so that should we be misfortunate enough to encounter it, we are prepared.” He looked at the vase his sister had been by, it’s flowers glistening in the bright sun. “So prepared we shall be.”

“Protect them, Thor. They don’t know how to fight as you do. You court danger, to a foolish degree but they have not seen fighting as you have. I rarely fear for you now. You have seen war, it almost seems to be your element, they merely lived in the result of it. The training they do is practical but not moulded by experience,” Ella pleaded. Thor swore to her that he would.

* Ella watched as Loki readied in his rooms, the etched skin of his back catching her attention as he did.

Loki, sensing he was no longer alone, turned to see her behind him. “That letter needed a lot of explaining.”

Ella could hear hurt in his voice. “I was catching Thor up on a few matters of importance.” “You thought it more important to tell him than to speak with me?” Loki growled. “Was there even a letter?” “Yes.” She held up the letter in question, her mother’s seal clear to see on it. “But it was more complex than that. I could not discuss this with only the two of you at once.” “Why?” “I am worried as to your reaction.”

“The reason I said that you were to stay in the hall…” Loki began.

“You do not need to explain that to me, I know you think me unable to fight.” “It is not that.” Loki walked forward. “I am very much depending on you making good on your statements as to your ability.” Ella frowned. “Then, why?” “If we fail, as well we could, I need you to be here, to try and hold the palace long enough to make sure you do something for me.” “What?” Ella was fearful of what Loki was asking of her.

Loki looked around for a moment.

“I soundproofed this room, I told you that already.”

Loki inhaled. “If we fail, if it happens that they take Jotunheim, I know you can escape, I trust you to, I want you to. But only if you do something for me first.” “What? I am not agreeing to it unless you tell me what it is,” She insisted.

Loki inhaled. “I need you to ensure my father’s death is painless.” Ella’s eyes widened. “You’re not stupid, you know what will happen if an enemy were to get to him.”

Ella nodded as she felt an immense tightness in her throat. She knew what happened many monarchs on different realms that were overthrown. They suffered terrible deaths and their bodies used to mock them and their people. She knew that her parents would rather fight to their deaths but that age had taken their ability to do so with any sort of honour from at least her father, so she knew of the potion her mother had that would end it, should such a time come and set their bodies alight to join those in Valhalla. “I don’t want to but, yes.”

“I can assure you, I don’t want you to either but I know you would do it with honour.” “There is no honour in killing old sick men.” She paused, wondering if she should mention to Loki the conversation she had with Thor.

Loki studied her. “You’re apprehensive.” “I worry as to how you will take what I wish to say.”

“You never lie to me, please continue that tradition.” “I worry. You and Helbindi will go to this battle, Byleistr is not currently available, what occurs when he does become so and most importantly, is his loyal?” “You question his loyalty?” “You don’t?”

Loki licked his teeth. “I do not think he would but I can see your reason for thinking so.” He sighed before leaning forward slightly. “If it comes to pass, if he returns here and is not our ally…” “I will have two blades ready for him and they will find purchase in him as they did in the ice statue,” She swore.

“While I do not doubt that, know that I expect you to survive this. If all comes falling down, flee.”

“Why, is there a place you think to meet me?”

“Nowhere.” “That is an actual place.”

“If they get to Jotunheim, it is only because I am dead and not a moment before,” Loki assured her. He could see her feel uncomfortable at such an idea. "It will surely be fine. I fully intend not to die."

"Good, you have so much yet to achieve. Jotunheim needs you as its king. You will be the one to bring it into its prosperous future."

Loki smiled at the confidence she had in his part in his realm. "Ella?" She gave him her full attention. "Is it wrong to admit I am fearful?"

"Of battle?" He nodded. "Wrong? Absolutely not, you would be mad were you to think anything other than fear. War is not a game. It's not some silly exercise after which all return home as though nothing happened. Many will not return and many more will return either without some part of body or mind and perhaps missing a bit of both." She walked over to him. "Please, please return."

"I will endeavour to do so." He gave a small smile. "If only to irk you further."

Ella scoffed playfully. "Well, we all have prices we are required to pay in this life." She smiled for a moment before becoming serious once more. "Promise me that if Thor goes berserk, you keep out of his way and never attempt to engage him."

"How…?"

"Do not look at him, whatever you do, stay behind him, encourage him towards the enemy and under no circumstances, do you or any of the Jotnar look him in the eye or engage him. He will not be reasoned with and you will not win such an altercation, do I make myself clear?"

"Yes."

"Tell Helbindi and have all Jotnar informed. If he lands near them whilst in it, snorting like a bull or boar, simply keep looking at the ground and he should not see any as a threat. Don't do anything foolish. He's an idiot at the best of times, there's little difference between when he is fully cognitive and when he is Berserk but there is a difference, so don't risk it."

"I will relay the message," He promised. "Don't let any disrespect you in my absence."

Ella scoffed. "They will soon learn not to if they try." She gave a small smile. "Loki…"

The sharp knock on the door brought them out of their conversation and back into the harsh reality of what was occurring. A moment later, Arden entered. "I fear it is time to depart."

"Then we best do so. I fear I dallied speaking with my mate so my attire is…" He looked down to see light armour and regal trimmings in him, the last of Ella's seidr glowing away as he did so. He looked at her again as she eyed the armour, ensuring its strength. "Thank you."

"I just wish for you to be safe."

Loki nodded and turned to face the door. "We will be. This will be over soon. Asgard, Alfheim, what stands strong of it, Vanaheim, Jotunheim, it is a powerful alliance, we will persevere, wait and see."

"I know but I will fret regardless." Sadly Ella walked beside Loki as they left the room.

They joined those gathered in the hall of the palace, Laufey, weary and worried looking. When he saw his middle son and his mate coming towards him, he gave a small nod. “War is not something I wish for you to experience, it is not something anyone should but it is the situation that is occurring now. I wish I could go in your stead and not subject either of you to the brutality of it but we need to protect Jotunheim, if Alfheim falls, we fall.” Loki nodded at his father’s words. “I am sorry.” Feeling weak and sorrowful, Laufey stumbled slightly. Luckily, Thor and Helbindi were close enough to steady him.

“Father, we will be fine, go back to your rooms and rest,” Loki suggested.

“No, I…”

“Ella,” Thor gave his sister a slight nod after calling her.

Smiling slightly, she used her seidr to create a chair of an adequate size for Laufey. “My King, please.”

Satisfied, Laufey nodded and place himself as best he could in the chair to see off his sons. “Better.” He sighed.

“Just rest, Father. We will be home in very little time.” Helbindi promised, though there was a slight fear in his eyes.

“Yes.” Laufey nodded solemnly.

“Heimdall,” Thor bellowed out, startling many around him. “Five minutes.”

“We best get to the army then,” Loki ordered. He turned to look at Ella one last time. “Be safe.” “You’re the one going into a war, I should be saying that to you.” She leant up and kissed his cheek. “Just come back.”

She walked over to Thor and leant up slightly and did the same. “Don’t be too stupid.”

“You always say that.” “And you always come back, so I am not changing it now.”

She stepped back to let them leave before noticing Helbindi standing to the side with a facial expression that made her laugh. “Are you feeling a little left out?” “I feel somewhat so, yes.” He confessed.

Laughing slightly she walked over and he bent down enough for her to give him one as well.

With that done, the men went towards where Heimdall would transport them. As soon as they left the hallway, Ella used her seidr to move herself and Laufey to a balcony overlooking them.

“That is a very useful ability,” Laufey commented.

“I thankfully use it more for convenience than anything but it can come in handy in many ways.”

“Has my son made you promise to dispose of me if this all fails?” Ella looked at him solemnly. “Good, it saves time to have it arranged in advance.” There was genuine relief in his voice.

“It will not come to that.” “I hope not, for all of us.”

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Pride and Prejudice

Story Summary - Based on an idea I had that I submitted to Imagine Loki. Imagine Loki was raised on Jotunheim as Laufey’s son after the war, but an agreement was then made that he would wed Odin’s daughter so Odin could secure the alliance of Jotunheim through the marriage. Loki, in turn, was raised to be king of Jotunheim, but how he views Asgard is far different from how Odin’s daughter is raised leading to a clash of cultures as well as uncertainty between the pair of betrothed youths.

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“Very well, but only for a moment, I need to speak with Loki before he goes too.” Ella indicated to a small side room. “Did she even give you something?”

“Focus Thor, time is of the essence.”

* Ella watched as Loki readied in his rooms, the etched skin of his back catching her attention as he did.

Loki, sensing he was no longer alone, turned to see her behind him. “That letter needed a lot of explaining.”

“The reason I said that you were to stay in the hall…” Loki began.

Loki looked around for a moment.

“I soundproofed this room, I told you that already.”

Loki inhaled. “I need you to ensure my father’s death is painless.” Ella’s eyes widened. “You’re not stupid, you know what will happen if an enemy were to get to him.”

Loki studied her. “You’re apprehensive.” “I worry as to how you will take what I wish to say.”

“While I do not doubt that, know that I expect you to survive this. If all comes falling down, flee.”

“Why, is there a place you think to meet me?”

“Nowhere.” “That is an actual place.”

"Good, you have so much yet to achieve. Jotunheim needs you as its king. You will be the one to bring it into its prosperous future."

Loki smiled at the confidence she had in his part in his realm. "Ella?" She gave him her full attention. "Is it wrong to admit I am fearful?"

"I will endeavour to do so." He gave a small smile. "If only to irk you further."

"How…?"

"Yes."

"I will relay the message," He promised. "Don't let any disrespect you in my absence."

Ella scoffed. "They will soon learn not to if they try." She gave a small smile. "Loki…"

The sharp knock on the door brought them out of their conversation and back into the harsh reality of what was occurring. A moment later, Arden entered. "I fear it is time to depart."

"I just wish for you to be safe."

"I know but I will fret regardless." Sadly Ella walked beside Loki as they left the room.

“Father, we will be fine, go back to your rooms and rest,” Loki suggested.

“No, I…”

“Ella,” Thor gave his sister a slight nod after calling her.

Smiling slightly, she used her seidr to create a chair of an adequate size for Laufey. “My King, please.”

Satisfied, Laufey nodded and place himself as best he could in the chair to see off his sons. “Better.” He sighed.

“Just rest, Father. We will be home in very little time.” Helbindi promised, though there was a slight fear in his eyes.

“Yes.” Laufey nodded solemnly.

“Heimdall,” Thor bellowed out, startling many around him. “Five minutes.”

She walked over to Thor and leant up slightly and did the same. “Don’t be too stupid.”

“You always say that.” “And you always come back, so I am not changing it now.”

Laughing slightly she walked over and he bent down enough for her to give him one as well.

With that done, the men went towards where Heimdall would transport them. As soon as they left the hallway, Ella used her seidr to move herself and Laufey to a balcony overlooking them.

“That is a very useful ability,” Laufey commented.

“I thankfully use it more for convenience than anything but it can come in handy in many ways.”

“Has my son made you promise to dispose of me if this all fails?” Ella looked at him solemnly. “Good, it saves time to have it arranged in advance.” There was genuine relief in his voice.

“It will not come to that.” “I hope not, for all of us.”

#pride and prejudice #chapter 35 #loki fic

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egg-emperor · 4 years

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@wisponsblazing

My thoughts on what events I’d like to see has changed quite a few times as the each issue has came along. So thinking of how I would write it from scratch is pretty tricky. I am certain of the things that I would keep and the things that I'd change about it though.

What I was at least expecting when the arc began is that it was going to be very Eggman focused. The way it was set up looked promising. Eggman got right back on track to once again prove that he’s never going to give up. He almost had it all with the world under his control but then he lost it, yet appeared to return with a determined vengeance all the same. That’s what was perfect about it and I wouldn’t change that part at all.

Something that was needed was more focus on Eggman’s perspective because a lot of his intentions have been unclear as of late. This was supposed to be his big comeback, so his success and his downfall should have had a more personal focus.

The other characters still need attention and so does the effect that the virus has on the world, but Eggman also should have been in the picture more often than he has been.

The only way I can accept the lack of explanation for some of his behavior and actions is when he’s being sly because he has something else up his sleeve that he’s keeping a secret. But even when he is, it doesn't ever look like he's just going to sit back and let it get so bad like he's doing now.

If they really were attempting to foreshadow Mr. Tinker still having an effect on Eggman’s personality (which is still only a possibility right now), then they could have added subtle hints earlier on. I don’t really like the idea of Tinker still being there unless it’s so Starline has made a mistake in not assuring that he was completely gone. That way Eggman wouldn't be the only one making mistakes.

I would have more focus on how desperate Eggman is becoming to make Sonic pay, as well as making the world suffer. We only got a mere glimpse of that when Eggman snapped at Starline. What I wanted to see from this arc was spotlight on how much of a dangerous threat he really is, not seeing him supposedly have second thoughts (#23) even after everything that he did without a care prior. It just doesn't add up and it's also an underwhelming outcome of what could've been.

For any mistakes that he does make, allow it to be clearer through his perspective so we can actually see why he thinks his choice is best. Or at least have it be the result of him keeping a secret so he can reveal his next move and make up for it after. Just because he can get overconfident, it doesn’t mean that he makes completely illogical decisions even when he’s blatantly faced with the warning signs. (Assuming that’s the reason why because his personal insight is still not clear.)

Despite Eggman's brilliant backup plan of trickery in Forces, there was still the oversight of not assuring that every ruby prototype was destroyed. It was not entirely his fault because Infinite was supposed to dispose of all of them, but it still cost him. However, his consistency of being a few steps ahead of Sonic and friends in other aspects the entire time was very impressive. It proves he doesn’t have to appear lazy and incapable of finding solutions in order for him to make mistakes at the same time.

If he’s going to make a mistake that plays a part in his eventual downfall then he should also play a respectable and enjoyable role at the same time. There could have also been different reasons for Starline to lose faith in him. He can still have an ignorant attitude and errors in his ways without being a clown in the process, once again proven when taking the events of Forces into account.

One thing I can commend the writing on is that it only seems the other villains as THINKING they know what is best. Starline's whole ‘this is how it’s done’ thing rubbed me the wrong way. But now there's focus on him making decisions without Eggman’s knowledge, which leads to great consequences. (Ex: when he tried to finish Sonic off himself and now that the D6 are going to take over and betray him) The other villains should be presented with flaws just as much as Eggman is.

The showdown between Eggman and Sonic in #23 could have been so much more impactful. All of the chaos and pain he's caused everyone has finally lead up to them finally coming face to face. It was a great opportunity for Eggman to taunt Sonic for being infected and he could have rubbed it in the mistake of trusting him as Mr. Tinker and setting Metal free. It’s true that it played part in it all. Seeing Eggman be a complete bastard about it to him would have been fantastic.

He could've put up a much more impressive battle too instead of getting his ass kicked and almost getting infected himself. Which leads me to the whole deal of Eggman not creating some type of resistance or cure for the virus. Why he didn't even bother to keep the windows of the Egg Mobile up to at least prevent him from falling out in the first place baffles me. (It's worse that he did in the covers but not in the actual issue.) He should have taken those risks into account and been a lot smarter about it.

The Deadly Six shouldn’t have played a part in this arc, the next one if anything. I haven’t thought of a replacement for them but I think they could have attempted to control the zombots in other ways, just like how Starline could have attempted to betray Eggman for other reasons like I said earlier.

Honestly, when I wasn't expecting the Deadly Six to come into the picture, I wanted Eggman to be the one to betray Starline instead after they finally fall out for their disagreements. It's about time that he wasn't the one getting overthrown by another villain. His cunning trickery could have been in play here too, which is what I always love to see.

I'm not sure how I would have wanted the arc to end since we haven't seen the end yet, but it'd be the usual of Sonic coming to save the day. But what I am sure of is how I really didn't want Eggman to be betrayed again in order for it to happen.

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Gwanghae: History vs The Crowned Clown

TVN’s much anticipated sageuk, The Crowned Clown has aired and…my feelings are somewhat mixed. It’s good-certainly better than 100 Days Husband, and faster paced than the first episodes of Mr. Sunshine-but there are choices I question. In particular, it’s taking the popular path of using violence against women to show abuses of power. At this point it isn’t gratuitous, but if the show makes it a trend and makes it the main way to show the differences between the strong and weak in society and the palace, it could be a dealbreaker. We’ll see how the next couple weeks go.

The main point of this post, though, is the complicated and interesting history behind Gwanghae. The Crowned Clown is loosely based of Masquerade, a Prince & Pauper type story about Joseon’s fifteenth king, Gwanghae, who is quite the controversial figure, to the point where he’s one of only two of Joseon’s kings who was not given a posthumous title, instead sill being known by his princely title of Gwanhaegun. (The other is Yeonsanggun, who is less controversial and more sraight up reviled.) I have not seen Masquerade (I intended to before the series started, but it didn’t happen) but The Crowned Clown is a “serial numbers filed off” version of history. It sticks closer to history than, say, Grand Prince, or even some sageuks that don’t bother filing off the serial numbers. The biggest divergences (outside of the core premise of the king having a performer who looks just like him temporarily take his place in the palace) are that principle figures are deaged considerably, and the size of the royal family being scaled down. Unfortunately, this means some of the most interesting bits no longer apply.

Gwanghae was the second son of Seonjo, with both he and his older brother being born to one of Seonjo’s consorts. Seonjo had 23 children with 6 consorts, over half of them sons. Unfortunately, not a single one of those 23 children were with his queen. Fast forward some and an alarming number of those sons are reaching adulthood. (Seonjo’s brood had a fairly decent childhood survival rate at this point.) No crown prince has been selected and Queen Uiin unfortunately couldn’t get pregnant and produce a legitimate heir to conveniently solve the problem no matter how many temples she prayed at. Also inconvenient was the fact that Seonjo’s oldest son, Imhae, was generally considered totally incompetent, so that easy route wasn’t a very good idea either.

Fortunately or unfortunately (depending on whether you’re a noble or royal with the means to head for the hills, or a commoner stuck dealing with invading armies) in 1591, the Japanese decided they would just cross over through Joseon in order to attack China, resulting in a full scale invasion. Seonjo promptly sent a “The Japanese are coming!” letter to China and went of the defense. IT didn’t do him much good though and in 1592, he and most of the court fled to the Ming border. Who stayed behind? Second prince Gwanghae, who spent the next seven years as the defacto ruler of Joseon, seeing to defenses and overseeing reconstruction. (This is hat’s going on in the sageuk parts of Live Up To Your Name, and is the basis for the movie Warriors of the Dawn, which also feature Yeo Jin Goo as Gwanghae, but more age appropriate that time.) After the war, making Gwanghae Crown Prince was now the easy and obvious choice. He’d already done the job for over half a decade, after all. Sure, he wasn’t the oldest or legitimate, both of which were generally preferable, but he was the best they had.

Then in 1600, Queen Uiin died and Seonjo married the much much much (as in, younger than some of his kids) Queen Inmok, who promptly gave him two legitimate children in the space of 6 years. Princess Jeongmyung, who was no threat to the established status quo, and Prince Yeongchang, who very much was. “What’s this?” the court asked “A LEGITIMATE heir? And a baby who will probably still be a kid when the king croaks and therefore easier for us to influence than that stubborn and strongwilled Gwanghae? SIRE WE MUST HAVE A DISCUSSION!!!” Suddenly that bit where Gwanghae effectively saved the country and did a good job ruling for seven years when they all ran off with their tails between their legs didn’t seem s important anymore.

For better or worse, Seonjo died in 1608, when Prince Yeongchang was still a baby, and before any changes could be made regarding who the crown prince was. This did not make significant parts of the court stop conspiring to replace Gwanghae with Yeongchang, and eventually Gwanghae was forced to send Yeongchang into exile, where he died the next year at 12 years old. That Gwanghae either had him poisoned or one of his supporters took it upon themselves to have him poisoned on Gwanghae’s behalf Is the generally accepted but, strictly speaking, not proven cause. Somewhere around this time, Queen Inmok and Princess Jeongmyung are sent into exile. As a side note, Jeongmyung was believed dead for a while, prompting the basis for the series Hwajung, which, to my knowledge, is the only show dealing with the period that acknowledges that she existed, though others have been happy to have Yeongchang secretly survive until adulthood. The Dowager Queen and princess were also imprisoned and lived in near-poverty. This part most likely was something forced by dominant court factions that Gwanghae couldn’t prevent, but that didn’t mean he didn’t get the blame. Given that they believed him to be responsible for the little prince’s death, I’m sure they were also pretty happy to blame him for the situation.

Despite the bad handling of some family things, Gwanghae ended up a pretty good king, though not popular. He was a good politician, literary arts thrived under his rule (as long as you didn’t write Hong Gil Dong, that one went badly), he rebuilt multiple palaces that had been destroyed during the wars and redistributed lands to the common people. He reintroduced identification cards, attempted to bring smaller political factions to the fore instead of the court being and endless battle between two dogs fighting over a bone with no other opinions getting a say, and attempted to implement systems to make taxation easier on citizens, but was unable to widely implement it, only successfully doing so in one province. It did eventually spread to the rest of Joseon, but not until decades after he died. Realizing that Korea could not realistically stand on the same ground as some other countries in terms of military might, he sought to strengthen foreign relations, with the Ming Empire, Japan, and the Manchus.

During all this, though, well, he just wasn’t popular. SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST DON’T LIKE YOU! (And think you had the wrong mom.) Plots were constant, causing paranoia to run high. (Given that he was later overthrown by his nephew-the much weaker King Injo-he was right to be paranoid.) All this leads up to Masquerade, in which the appropriately aged Gwanghae seeks a double to help him avoid being assassinated.

In The Crowned Clown, most, if not all, of this background is gone. Gwanghae became king at 33 years old. Yeo Jin goo is a decade younger and is playing a character the same age. (Jang Hyuk’s Seonjo is also a good 20 or so years younger.) Gone are the military accomplishments. Also gone are all his siblings except for Yeongchang. In addition, Queen Inmok is significantly older, not younger. Yi Hun’s (this version of Gwanghae) paranoia starts almost immediately after he becomes king, including many violent outbursts. With Yi Hun being so much younger and without the other siblings, but still illegitimate, the drama of his being crown prince while others prefer Yeongchang due to legitimacy is much more rote. This isn’t to say it’s badly done or boring or without it’s own drama or problems because it isn’t, it’s just way less interesting and not nearly as charged as the actual history was.

Given that this is a TV series that skews younger (and more female for the audience) than the movie, and that filing the serial numbers off gives them more freedom with the ending, I’m guessing that we’ll eventually learn that Yi Hun’s paranoia and outbursts were at least partly due to being poisoned, and the series will end with him becoming a better king, and the titular clown, Ha Seon, returning to his nomadic life, but with more awareness of how to fight injustice. That or they’ll kill Yi Hun and Ha Seon will become king with only a few people any the wiser. (It also wouldn’t surprise me if they revealed that Yeongchang’s death was faked.) Given that Yeo Jin Goo is a much beloved former child actor-in part because of his many child and teen years spent playing the younger versions of leads in sageuks-who only very recently transitioned into adult roles, I don’t really expect a too-brutal ending.

Incidentally, any time I’m reminded that Yeo Jin Goo is all grown up now, my reaction is along these lines:

“He is what? No he isn’t he’s only 15. YOUNG MAN WHY ARE YOU DOING PHOTOSHOOTS LIKE THIS BUTTON YOUR SHIRT RIGHT NOW!”

This despite the fact that he’s always looked a bit older than his age due to having fairly broad and strong features.

#the crowned clown #kdrama #sageuk #long post #midnight history lessons no one asked for

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