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firestorm09890 · 1 year

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Carmen projectmoon is a great character because they went “yeah she's just the dead wife character sorry :( FUCK YOU JUST KIDDING SHE HAUNTS THE NARRATIVE” and then she haunted the narrative so hard she caused fundamental changes to the entire setting and affected literally everyone in the world of the story and she’s still haunting the narrative to this day, even after the game that was about her haunting the narrative. most recently they made her a narrator (probably) and [uh hi future bluejay here, what was originally here might not have been true but since this post was made she's done even more]. she died before the first entry of the series

#project moon #carmen #lobotomy corporation #library of ruina #limbus company #wonderlab #distortion detective #leviathan #she haunts them ALL #the game about her haunting the narrative was library of ruina #which you are you going to be... inside the mirror do you see someone else in that body #she also did it in lobcorp to an extent but imo that one was more about ayin #me post #oh yeah i should probably tag for spoilers huh #lobotomy corporation spoilers #library of ruina spoilers #leviathan spoilers #limbus company spoilers #okay reblogs are back on i realized most people were reblogging from the source but i made some edits

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theendofviolet · 1 year

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“dots” vs “lines”

leviathan is full to the brim of the contrasts between stagnation and progress forward. the penultimate battle and vergilius’s internal fight and discussion with carmen are an encapsulation of that.

there’s a noted repeated concept about “the flow”. to garnet, vergilius explains it as such:

the “flow” seems to be, to vergilius, this idea of something that pulls you forward in life - like water down a river, unable to be diverted. the water has no choice but to follow it. but of note is that the “flow” is still movement of a kind. the water should not stay in one place. however, to vergilius, his so-called flow has slowed to the point of being “weak” and “stalled”. he had a dream once, a dream to change the world that he shared with roland, which eventually became snuffed out by the immense tragedy of tomerry and the orphanage incident

meanwhile, jumsoon, mister “dotty” himself, is obsessed with the idea of capturing moments frozen in time. its likely why Schadenfreude was born from his body, as the very idea of the abnormality is a “gaze” trapped in a box. to him, time can be broken up into moments to be witnessed, gazed at, one at a time. “dots”. to him, a child with a vibrant life can be crushed into a single beautiful gem to witness. even the objects being sold at the auction are of things captured as representation of a flash of time - such as the man dancing, everlasting, in a glass box

this of course is why vergilius eventually succeeds against him, and also succeeds against the manipulations of carmen, because what both are focused on is “momentary satisfaction”. this is not enough for vergilius. to him, the flow is everything, and as long as the flow can be followed, “dots” become “lines”

"For a person who is moving, a point is just a fleeting moment. The dot is just a moment. If the countless moments of despair that came to me pile up and become years, the moments that were just dots will become lines and create a path of possibility."

vergilius ends leviathan with a new course, a new goal. he will move forward even if this takes him “into the hell of my karma” where he “will rest there alone”. he cannot be stagnant or stalled any longer.

after all, the flow cannot be stopped

#vergilius #leviathan #limbus company #leviathan spoilers #ME SHAKING EVERYONE LIKE AHHH GOD I LOVE THINKING ABOUT LEVIATHAN SO MUCH #even with the machine tl its so evident that the writing is just that good #love me some good consistent themes and symbolism....LOVE THE ETERNAL HUMAN QUESTION OVER HOW ONE SHOULD EXPERIENCE LIFE

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lu-is-not-ok · 6 months

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Ok so I finished reading Leviathan today, and I noticed something while watching a video essay about Roland ( LEVIATHAN AND RUINA SPOILERS )

Due to a selfish decision made by Angela, the light was spread unevenly, which ruined Roland’s life.

Due to a selfish decision made by Roland, the light was spread unevenly, which ruined Vergilius’s life.

Will the cycle keep going?

That's the mystery, isn't it?

Project Moon games have always thematically been about breaking cycles, both literally and metaphorically.

Breaking the Time Loop in Lobotomy Corporation. Breaking the cycle of abuse, revenge, and violence in Library of Ruina.

Other cycles still continue, of course. Carmen is still at large. The Light is still spread unevenly. Though, just like Binah said to Roland:

If a cycle was broken once, it can be broken again.

#ask #zenithreach #lu speaketh #library of ruina #leviathan project moon #lor spoilers #leviathan spoilers

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bigkickguy · 11 months

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In leviathan, Verg goes into a part of the corridor where he experiences the Light for the first time? Kinda in a similar way to how we know it in Ruina? If the corridor is possibly connected to the library, what's stopping Roland from randomly showing up like this??

#leviathan spoilers #limbus company #i am like thiiiiiis close to figuring out how i want to write this crossover in my head and then its over #the rolversod wedding is back on as soon as roland gets lost on the way to the bathroom and bumbles his way onto the bus #i think this is actually impossible without picturing the exact place in your mind clearly to get to or leave from?#but also i think its funny in concept

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scp-168 · 2 years

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>crossing the thorny road for self improvement

>ask Ayin if my EGO is creepy or wet

>he doesn't understand

>pull out illustrated diagram explaining what is creepy and what is wet

>he laughs and says "its your EGO sir"

>manifest EGO

>its wet

#leviathan spoilers #leviathan #limbus company #project moon

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iolite-sunstone · 2 years

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SCHADENFREUDE HAS ONE FAN AND IT IS ME

Yes. Schadenfreude literally just showed up in Leviathan. The actual murder box just made a spectacular entrance. In hindsight, there was a lot of foreshadowing, too.

#limbus company #leviathan spoilers #schadenfreude #tw: veins #tw: eye contact #I love the murder box

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pascal-oswell · 2 years

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leviathan spoilers but you know considering faust is the one inviting vergil and charon to limbus and is potentially the one at the origin of the branch we'll be working with and all, i think itd be incredibly funny if she were also the one who wrote, or at least participated in/approved of the manager handbook. someone wrote her as insufferable and she was like yeah okay fair enough.

#blabla #obviously i have no idea if thats even close to true i just thought itd be funny #since faust does seem somewhat important at least considering all the scary guys she showed up with #just thinking about her pretending to be a normal employee in general too. silly.#i wanna plaaaaaay #leviathan spoilers

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pirateknight · 1 month

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if there's one thing about Lou Wilson it's that he goes above and beyond when given the option to sabotage himself and his party

#escalation from pinocchio purposefully walking into a trap to him lying about getting possessed and burning everything fabian has on adaine #'fabian loses control of a bodily function' [picks the worst one]#also i think gunnie chefs tools casino bit could be an example #looking at the stepmother #he just keeps it interesting #dimension 20 #fantasy high #fhjy spoilers #OH AND how could i forget the bad awful no good day in leviathan

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rashomonss · 1 year

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Readjusting

context: just a few somewhat angsty headcanons I have for when MC and Solomon return to the present after everything, enjoy!!

warnings: this does contain nightbringer spoilers

the past changes people

MC will often become more hesitant to talk to or even engage with the brothers. Due to being treated as an attendant in the past they now are used to it, so whenever one of the brothers tries to engage with them they find it hard to sit still or listen to said brother for long periods of time without feeling out of place.

MC will often mix up the fact that they are an exchange student rather than an attendant. When Diavolo claims that he wants MC to feel comfortable as an exchange student MC will respond with something along the lines of how they don’t need much because they’re the brothers attendant. Which in return gets a few confusing stares from others.

MC still carries out some of their duties as an attendant unconsciously. Such as keeping track of the brother’s schedules, events, student council meetings, etc. The brothers don’t mind at first however what they do find unpleasant is the fact MC always follows behind them instead of right beside them like they used too. This doesn’t register until one of them says something to MC, which they in turn respond with “I always follow behind all seven of you”. Which makes their hearts sink.

Still focusing on the attendant duties, MC will still continue to carry out anything asked of them without much of a fight. Since they were so used to carrying out such elaborate things when watching over the brothers in the past they are now used to doing such tasks for them. Most of the time this will confuse most of the brothers because MC is usually more vocal with their opinion on something.

MC will unconsciously be a bit harsher and stricter on the brothers than they usually were. Since being their attendant MC had to keep each of them on a tight leash so they wouldn’t get into trouble. So now in the present if they were to start fighting MC would be the first to show up to scold them instead of Lucifer.

MC will just straight up be petty with Lucifer for a while. Due to the things he said while they were in the past they still haven’t completely forgiven him. So whenever Lucifer mentions his “family”, MC finds themselves saying some remark along the lines of “well that doesn’t include me” or “just the seven of you I know. I leave you all alone” is enough to confuse and hurt the hell out of him. MC knows that Lucifer does really care for them in this timeline, but they can’t help it. His words really did hurt them deeply for awhile.

On another topic of MC’s attitude, Diavolo soon realizes that they are much more formal with him. The cute nickname Dia was dropped and he was always referred to by a title now. When Diavolo questioned them about formality MC simply explained that the past Barbatos didn’t like them referring to Diavolo in such a manner.

MC is now more vigilant around Satan, Belphegor and Barbatos, each for different reasons.

Satan is one that worries MC the most because they became used to having to deal with his violent outbursts and destructive episodes. So when Satan gets angry in the present MC will step in front of him and the brothers separating them. Satan soon grows confused when MC prepares a spell to restrain him.

Belphegor doesn’t worry MC as much as the other two, but after he found out they were a human in the past and tried to kill them again in response MC had to remain vigilant. They still do whenever they are alone with him. Which in turn makes the youngest guilty about the past.

Barbatos is someone MC keeps Solomon away from at all costs. After all MC was used to Barbatos teleporting the sorcerer around from place to place. It did become concerning when Solomon would show up later and later each time he came home. So to avoid that MC would make themselves and Solomon avoid the butler at all costs. However the present butler soon finds this behavior hurtful when MC constantly declines his offer to come over. In the end MC has a hard time remembering that this isn’t the past Barbatos.

Many soon noticed the strong bond MC now has with Solomon and of course they all become jealous. At first they noticed how MC would go to him for little things, or just prefer to be around him more, but when they asked about moving in with him rather than staying in the House of Lamentation it threw everyone for a loop. It made it even worse when MC said they’ll be there to help the brothers every morning like usual. They wanted MC to realize that they’re an exchange student not an attendant.

Many also notice how reliant they are on Solomon for certain things. Sometimes MC just needs Solomons presence in a room to be able to feel comfortable. If not MC will then become slightly annoyed or fidgety.

Solomon becomes more protective over MC without even realizing it. If he believes one of the brothers are being too bothersome to MC he will step in and whisk them away.

Solomon finds it easier to steal MC’s attention away now. Before when he would try and drag them away from the brothers, or even try and steal their attention for just a second it always failed. However with how close they both became in the past, if Solomon interrupts a conversation MC is having with the brothers MC finds themselves listening to him a bit more than the brother they were speaking with.

MC is much more reckless and blunt with their decision making now. Before they were a bit more collected with their thoughts. However being in the past made their impulsive decision making become a habit. Thus causing the brothers to sometimes question MC methods.

MC would often question the brothers as to why they weren’t in their demon forms. They suppose they just got used to seeing them in those outfits for so long now it became the norm.

#obey me #omswd #obey me shall we date #obey me nightbringer #obey me nightbringer spoilers #demon brothers #obey me luficer #obey me mammon #obey me leviathan #obey me satan #obey me asmodeus #obey me beelzebub #obey me belphegor #obey me solomon #obey me diavolo #obey me barbatos #obey me angst #obey me nightbringer angst

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still-a-morosexual-help · 1 year

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Fucking hell Nightbringer really gave me everything huh god

Henry 1.0 origin story

Cerberus origin story

Satan's cat thing origin story

"Goldie in Freezer" origin story

Levi's Ruri-chan obsession origin story

Mammon being scared of ghosts/horror origin story

More in depth version of Solomon & Asmo's first meeting/pact origin story

A painful reason for why Asmo's room looks like that

What the tsl characters would have been like irl (the absolute worst wtf simeon)

Mammon's issues finally discussed in depth

Mammon being extremely ride or die for Lucifer

Almost instant Mammon & MC friendship

Mammon being just so amazed by MC and also insanely supportive of them

Mammon being willing to do anything for his brothers, being more sure of himself, almost instantly following Lucifer's orders and making the others do so as well

Levi's issues discussed in depth.

Levi straight up saying he was depressed and still is

Levi's friendship with MC!

Levi & Lucifer's relationship!!!!!

Levi being shy and scared and just so 😖

Things being bad in the Celestial Realm even before they left

Asmo's issues being discussed in depth

Asmo very explicitly having body dysmorphia

The brothers being much more supportive and loving of each other

Lucifer being visibly scared of losing another family member and being insanely overprotective because of it

The brothers being slowly overtaken by their sins (something that was always a part of them but also something they could control as angels) and losing control of themselves

The brothers gaining new magic

Satan being a fucking mess

Satan not really fitting in and all of them being really awkward around him

Satan's issues being discussed in depth

Belphie's issues being discussed in depth

Belphie expressing passive suicidal ideation

Belphie talking about how he needs someone to blame for what happened to Lilith so he can process it/make sense of it even if that someone is himself

Lucifer's issues being touched on from from different perspectives/angles

Diavolo's issues being hinted at

Simeon's issues being vaguely discussed

More about Lilith! (remember my post about how lilith definitely wasn't a sweet little angel because there's no way the universe would let lucifer catch a break? I was right!!! She was as much a little shit as the rest of her family!)

More about the demon king! (He wanted to stop the war too🥺 also a whole line of previous demon kings!)

More about god/how angels work (all angels are brothers & sisters but not technically family the way lucifer & his siblings are!)

ADAM!?!?!?!?!?

Solomon & MC's Sorcerer & Apprentice relationship seen in full detail!

MC being absolutely amazing

MC being competent and powerful and dangerous and resourceful and confident and the brothers realising all that but them also being funny and snarky and chaotic and outgoing and homesick and caring

References to present (s1-s4) brothers (& how they'll tear solomon apart if he doesn't bring MC back)

NIGHTBRINGER!? BARBATOS!!!??? but past barbatos doesn't seem to know anything about MC and present barbatos is helping solomon bring MC back....so who...?

References to Noble demons and conservative demons and devildom politics

Angel - Demon prejudice /racism from both sides explicitly shown

The brothers being war criminals and how the devildom sheltering them nearly re-started the war between the two realms

None of them being able to identify MC as a human (it takes Diavolo a long time + Lucifer straight up denies it when MC tells him), Adam & Nightbringer saying MC has the "power of angels", MC's favourite manga being one where the youngest child out of 7 is described as being angelic (*cough*lilith*cough*), Diavolo, even after knowing MC is a human, going "what are you"..... me softly chanting: nephilim!mc nephilim!mc nephilim!mc

The lessons flow better? It doesn't feel like one arc is squished into two lessons and then you must immediately jump into another different arc. It feels like it's all just happening in a connected sequence?

Better pacing in my opinion. It doesn't feel rushed.... like the part where satan discovers cats and then later is seen still sitting next to the cat and watching it? It feels appropriately spaced out

MC's relationships with everyone doesn't feel isolated. Like earlier there'd be a lesson or two dedicated to one character and we won't see much of the other characters during it. Now it feels like everyone is there interacting with everything in a normal, natural way. Yes there are lessons dedicated to getting to know one brother but the others are there, interacting with each other and MC during that time as well

The emotions & relationships are discussed/written in a way that feels very real and believable that it becomes actually really moving (s1-s4 also did this well but in nightbringer because of arcs/scenes/relationships not being isolated, of things flowing better and having a better pacing, of them outright discussing their issues it has a greater impact - yes I cried more than once shut up)

In the end, Nighbringer is darker than og OM! but not in the "grrr gonna kill you" way. It's "darker" because they address more serious topics in depth

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firestorm09890 · 1 year

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“the creatures from that one game used to be children but not many people know because that information is from one of the more obscure pieces of media in the franchise and it’s a very fucked up revelation to have” scale