#sorscha and dorian

[shadowhandss60]

Hold him still,” his father barked, digging his knee in deeper.

The breath was sucked from his chest, and his ribs groaned in agony. But there was nothing Dorian could do to stop it.

He wrenched his arm from one of the guards—wrenched it free and reached, bellowing.

He had just touched Sorscha’s limp hand when cool stone gripped his throat, there was a faint click and hiss, and the darkness swept in to tear him apart.”

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AC: @snowarox

I chose violence again for this commission

#Dorian Havilliard #throne of glass spoilers #throne of glass #heir of fire #queen of shadows #empire of storms #dorian havilliard edit #sorscha and dorian #dorian x sorscha #sorscha fanart #dorian Havilliard fanart #manorian #sarah j maas

[shadybirdwombat]

Sorscha and Jesminda both beheaded by their lovers fathers.

Dorian and Lucien both bound. One by a collar and one by a mask.

Chaol and Tamlin both feel in love with fierce women. Than left by them. Also the most hated characters in their series.

Manon and Elain both run away from romantic love. Fae Elain not human. Does this mean Elain has Blueblood witch ancestry.

Chaol went on healing journey. What if Tamlin is cursed from everything. So he falls in love with a healer from dawn court.

Lucien and Elain are very similar to Manon and Dorian.

Hear me out. Dorian is besties with his friends ex. Lucien was besties with his friends ex.

Sjm has said both Dorian and Lucien would get along.

Both are considered rakes.

Than they both have feelings for a guarded iron walled female. Remember elain's mind is filled with unbloomed flowers and an iron gate. Manon iron teeth witch.

Abraxos loves flowers. We don't know the abuse Elain suffered from her grandma or mom . We only know Nesta and Feyre.

Nesta similar to asterin. Both abused by their grandma.

Both Dorian and Lucien told if I offered you the moon on a string.

The sad part is Elain could find friends like the thirteen. Though not warriors. They end up dying or the twins.

This is a crack theory. Though if you think really hard

I want to say Elain isn't a warrior type like Manon. Though she's similar in love matters. Not sex there's a difference. Both characters avoid feelings.

Dorian and Lucien both feel and love. Through the trauma from their fathers. Also what if Beron is under koschei's spell and has been for a while.

I hate Beron. I hated Dorian's dad too. He surprised me in the end.

The similarities between the characters. Albeit seem small. They exist. Asterin and her hunter. Similar to Cassian and Nesta. People say Manon is like Nesta. Nesta is similar to asterin. Grandma archeron would have beaten Nesta if she was pregnant with an unworthy man's baby. Also Nesta would never punish her sisters physically.

#lucien vanserra #elain archeron #acotar series #jesminda #tamlin #chaol westfall #throne of glass #dorian havilliard #manon blackbeak #yrene towers #moon on a string #Sorscha #abraxos #king of adarlan #beron vanserra #koschei #valg #asterin blackbeak #nesta acheron #cassian acotar #the hunter #feyre archeron #rhysand acotar

[ohanthonytomallamadingdong]

i have officially finished Heir of Fire

while i am broken and unlikely to heal, here are my current thoughts

- Rowan and Aelin are endgame and i was absolutely shooketh at the scene w Maeve and the BLOOD OATH

- “your people aren’t” bitch ok go off

- Rowan tattooing Aelin, yes ma’am thank u more please

- Sorscha

- i don’t even know what to say

- i am heartbroken

- and Dorian, i just-

- i am Shattered

- Aedion trying to protect the others even tho it meant giving himself up and giving the king leverage against Aelin is so Him and im reeling

- Chaol is Struggling and i feel the heaviness he carries

- Rowan and Aelin

- Bas the Bitching Buffoon u hurt my babie Luca and u paid the ultimate price

- bruh i was so afraid for Emrys and Malakai thank god they’re ok

- did i mention Rowan and Aelin??????

- Sorscha and Dorian, i-

- i literally don’t have the words

#throne of glass #sarah j maas #aelin galathynius #rowan whitethorn #dorian havilliard #chaol westfall #heir of fire #aedion ashryver #sorscha #why doesn’t she have a tag #put some goddamn respect to her name

[goddessofwisdom18]

In my heart they're all alive in our world and they're besties

#dorian havilliard #sorscha #chaol westfall #yrene towers #tog #sjm #throne of glass #tod #tower of dawn #dorian x sorscha #sorscha x dorian #chaorene #modern au #modern tog #yes sorscha is wearing a folklore cardigan #she and yrene are studying medicine together sorscha is a nurse and yrene wants to be a doctor #chaol is idk a gym bro or something lol #dorian is rich but studying english or history just for shits and giggles #idk where everyone else is #my art

[sjm-live-commentary]

dorian gained bodily autonomy for a few moments and what did he do? mf went into heat.

#one ‘hello princeling’ and that mf was SLICKED up 😨 #what talking to manon will do to a mf: #get your ACT together boy #bro forgot about sorscha ☠️😭🙏 justice for herrrrr #queef of shadows #queen of shadows #dorian havilliard #manon blackbeak #manorian #throne of glass #tog #sjm #sarah j maas #qos #rewriting

[fleyrie]

QUEEN OF SHADOWS SPOILERS

This scene is where I loose any sense of sanity

Quietly, Aedion said, “Dorian.”

“Tell me what happened in the throne room, Dorian,” … The prince blinked slowly. “Nothing happened.”

“Sorscha,” Aedion breathed, his lungs aching. “Sorscha—your woman, the healer. I was standing beside you when they cut off her head. I heard you screaming as you dove for her body.”

“Where did they bury her, Dorian? What did they do with her body, the body of the woman you loved?” … “I don’t know what you’re talking about,” it said again.

“Sorscha,” Aedion panted, his breathing uneven. “Her name was Sorscha, and she loved you— and they killed her. The man who put that collar around your neck killed her.”

#I just rediscovered this scene #queen of shadows #qos #sjm #sjm spoilers #ToG #throne of glass #dorian havilliard #Sorscha #Dorian x Sorscha #aedion ashryver

[acourtofquestions]

Currently on Chapter 59 of Heir of Fire & I’d be lying if I said I haven’t been crying since Celaena fell asleep in Rowan’s arms up in that tree😂🤣🥹😭🖤 just tooooooo much to say — Abraxos flying with Manon — Dorian & Sorscha — the kitty-cat friend🤣 — all of Aelin facing the Valg — she has short red hair now (?) & like the least of changes as she said, but also POWER MOVE — & just UGHAJABSNWLWN *keyboard smash head desk* … 9 chapters left, then on to Queen of Shadows😬😆

#Heir of Fire #HoF #reading reacts #TOG #currently reading #Chapter 59 #Throne of Glass series #Throne of Glass #first read #Aelin Galathynius #Celaena Sardothien #Aelin Ashryver Galathynius #why do they always forget the Ashryvers #read with me #Rowan Whitethorn #I wish they would just kiss but I know they won’t because this next book has to be about her not a love interest but her and grief and heal #Dorian Havilliard #the part where he calls her friend THIS MAN he already decided and she did too long ago that she would not let the ignored prince be alone #Sorscha #why do I feel like Sorscha is a spy and the one Celaena sends letters too #Chaol Westfall #the part where he said go to ellywe like yes this man has made mistakes and doesn’t know what the heck his plans are but he gets points #Aedion #Aedion Ashryver #im going to bawl like a baby when they reunite cause their friendship & love hits different like when they said your Aedion #Manon Blackbeak #Abraxos #queen flying with the thirteen let’s go minus the fact I’m afraid Celaena will be her mark then add the Crochan incident & weve got danger #what the heck is a blood oath I don’t wanna know why is everyone’s freedom getting sold the world needs Aelin and here she is but first she #must face Celaena and Arobynn and I have a bad feeling that’s gonna become the worst moment but she will rise like a pheonix

[wizxrdpendrxgon]

Sharing this Dorian and Sorscha Picrew with y'all just in case there's any other shippers out there who are desperate for content of them LOL

This image was created with Picrew’s “ElenaA's Kiss Crew“!! https://picrew.me/share?cd=cDFQQ4R1EG #Picrew #ElenaAs_Kiss_Crew

#dorian havilliard #sorscha #dorian x sorscha #sorschian #throne of glass #tog #sjm #picrew

[national-sorscha-fanpage]

the sjm fandom these days is literally

"what on earth is going on in the house of commons"

#sjm trash #sjmaas #throne of glass #sorscha #my beloved #dorian havilliard #chaol westfall

[shadowhandss60]

“Maybe he would always wake up with his sweat feeling like Sorscha’s blood on him.”

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Commision I had done by @bookishkoda

Do not repost without credit to Artist

#whOOPS #throne of glass #dorian havilliard #sorscha and dorian #dorian x sorscha #sorscha #throne of glass spoilers #throne of glass fanart #dorian havilliard fanart #Sorscha fanart #throne of glass edit #sjm universe #fleetfoot

[princessyuwa]

Dorian x Sorscha 🥰

Made From:

If you do not ship Dorian with Sorscha AND have nothing nice to say, kindly do not interact in this post

#throne of glass #dress up games #dorian havilliard #sorscha #dorscha #dorian x sorscha #sorscha deserved better

[zaintastic]

Since she entered Dorian's life, I knew was gonna die exactly like that. And it was very obvious that she was the spy Ren was talking about, when she was to write letters to her 'friend'.

But Damn...I liked her and this scene...it is truly heartbreaking.

#sarah j maas #book blog #bookaholic #throne of glass #heir of fire #dorian havilliard #sorscha

[goddessofwisdom18]

TOG Dream cast 1/?: Madison Bailey as Sorscha!

#sorscha #tog #throne of glass #heir of fire #dorian havilliard #my edit

[lorcandidlucienwill]

Who pulls the most bitches?

So I saw someone do something like this and I kind of wanted to do my own version with sjm characters. They get no bitches (besides that one girl who's a sucker for losers): Tamlin, Hunt, Ithan, Declan (only bc he's gay not for lack of game; he pulls ALL the men), Tarquin They get more than none but less bitches than you'd expect: Fenrys (bc he's with Maeve, poor boyo), Tharion (bc he's stuck with the river queen's daughter, oof), Aedion, Mor (because she has to hide her sexuality, rip) Now let's rank the remaining: Rhysand: for the supposedly most powerful fae guy to ever exist, he gets a surprisingly low amount of bitches. Perhaps it is due to his creepy evil reputation and the hatred for him within his own court: turns out a pretty face a male does NOT make. Even gold-diggers have standards! Cassian: I turned this over in my mind many times, but I realized Cassian pulls less bitches than Azriel after the line "I don't need to resort to poetry." He gets plenty of bitches because he's a bigass dude with muscles, but his shitty poetry is a turn-off to most eligible ladies. Azriel: he doesn't need to resort to poetry; he's a pretty boy with a cut body, but points have to be deducted for lack of game and pining over Mor for 500 years and being obsessed with having a mate (yuck). Dorian Havilliard: Come on, guys! He's a hot prince! Of course, he gets all the bitches. He's a little immature but he grows out of it! I mean he pulled the fucking man-eater, for God's sake. Points deducted for falling for Celaena wayyyy too fast (and getting rejected) and for his healer girl getting decapitated (rip Sorscha). Rowan: we KNOW this guy gets aaaaaaaalllll the bitches. Come on, he's Rowan-rutting-Whitethorn! Points were deducted for the whole Lyria thing AND serving Maeve for so long. Lorcan Salvaterre: He gets even more bitches than Rowan because... "Battles, riches, females- Lorcan always won, at any cost." And it's even said Rowan often allowed him to win. So yeah, he pulls a lot of bitches and participates in crazy orgies with his homie Rowan. Points deducted for being Stockholmed by Maeve (poor Lolo). Ruhn Danaan: I mean we already know the man's got game (evidence: CC2 chapter 3 plus all ruhnlidia chapters). He's also a young (by Fae standards) prince who lives in a fucking frat-boy house. And that sad-boy thing he's got going on? Girls love that. Eat it up. All the bitches wanna sit on him to take away his sorrow. Points deducted for crushing on a lesbian (oops). Tristan Flynn: Man gets even more bitches than Ruhn because he's just hornier and he's obsessed with his hair. Also, did you see the fire sprites becoming his cheerleaders? King shit. Points deducted for failing to rizz up Ariadne. Eris Vanserra: Come on, he's an Autumn Court male. Plus he's a Vanserra! It's practically in his blood! Points deducted for being rejected by Mor and Nesta tho. Chaol Westfall: Man gets a shockingly high number of bitches despite being a human character who until Dorian became king had a pretty lowly position. I mean, there was a literal PRINCE and his cousin hanging out and the girls were all drooling over Chaol. When he had a disability (which unfortunately due to prejudices that exist, often make you "undesirable" in the eyes of many) and he rizzed all those women, including Yrene, harder than Kashin. EVERY. GIRL. CHOSE. CHAOL. OVER. A. LITERAL. PRINCE. Both in Adarlan AND the southern continent. You're telling me he doesn't have the rizz??? A half a point deducted for being too hung up over Celaena (I don't blame him but still). But still, he pulls sooooo many bitches. Lucien (Vanserra? Spell-Cleaver? Cunt-Server?): Come on. Is there anyone else fitting to be number 1???? Man's got EVERYTHING Chaol has, PLUS he's the son of a High Lord and he's got that Vanserra rizz. Fuck it, he wouldn't stop at bitches. He'll pull every mfer to ever exist. If it breathes, it's into Lucien Vanserra. He is THAT guy.

#tamlin #ithan holstrom #tharion ketos #tarquin #declan emmet #hunt athalar #fenrys moonbeam #morrigan #aedion ashryver #rhysand #cassian #azriel #dorian havilliard #rowan whitethorn #lorcan salvaterre #ruhn danaan #tristan flynn #eris vanserra #chaol westfall #lucien vanserra

[feyresdandelion]

eLrIeL iS tOo ClIChÉ

disclaimer 1: this post will contain spoilers for the pairings of every sjm book.

disclaimer 2: if I were to add every single couple sjm has written I would be here all day, so I will only add couples who are currently together (LoA and Beron), endgame (Aelin and Rowan), heavily implied to be endgame (Manon and Dorian) or where one of the people died (Aelin and Sam). I will not add couples that have broken up willingly or really secondary couples.

disclaimer 3: this post is anti gwynriel and elucien and pro elriel. It's also really long.

The argument that elriel is too cliché and cheesy due to the whole "3 brothers, 3 sisters" is so stupid to me. However, due to that part of the fandom and their unwillingness to think objectively, let's look at the statistics, shall we.

Here is a list of the sjm couples and their status as mates or not:

Aelin and Rowan - mates

Yrene and Chaol - humans, not mates

Manon and Dorian - we don't know, maybe

Elide and Lorcan - mates

Lysandra and Aedion - mates

Nesryn and Sartaq - humans, not mates

Elena and Gavin - mates

Aelin and Sam - broken up, not mates

Lyria and Rowan - broken up, not mates

Aedion's mom and Gavriel - heavily implied mates, maybe

Sorscha and Dorian - broken up, not mates

Asterin and the hunter - we don't know, maybe

Feyre and Rhys - mates

Nesta and Cassian - mates

Viviane and Kallias - mates

LoA and Beron - currently together, not mates

Jesminda and Lucien - broken up, not mates

Miryam and Drakon - mates

Amren and Varian - we don't know, maybe

Thesan and his lover - heavily implied mates, maybe

Rhys' mother and father - deceased, mates

Tamlin's mother and father - deceased, mates

Theia and Aidas - broken up, mates

Bryce and Hunt - mates

Lidia and Ruhn - mates

Danika and Baxian - broken up, mates

Sophie and Cormac - heavily implied mates, maybe

Fury and Juniper - we don't know, maybe

Declan and Marc - we don't know, maybe

Ember and Randall - humans, not mates

Bryce and Connor - broken up, not mates

Shahar and Hunt - broken up, not mates

Out of the 32 couples mentioned above, 14 are mates (43.75%), 10 aren't mates (31.25%) and 8 we don't know/it's implied (25%)

Out of the 14 couples who are mates, 12 either died while being a couple or are currently together (85.71%) and 2 are broken up mates (14.29%)

Out of the 10 couples who aren't mates, 3 are humans (30%), 6 are broken up and therefore not endgame (60%) and 1 are currently together (10%)

Before we continue let's talk about the definition of cliché:

something or someone that is not at all original, surprising, or interesting because it has very often been seen before.

In this post, a cliché couple will be part of the highest percentage of it's category.

Now let's add Elain, Gwyn, Azriel and Lucien to the mix. Here are the most discussed possibilities of these couples:

Elriel - mates and together

Elriel - not mates and together

Elriel - not mates and not together

Elucien - mates and together

Elucien - mates and broken bond

Gwynriel - mates and together

In the case of gwynriel being mates and together that would mean elucien are mates and together and would make elriel not mates and broken up.

So in this case there would be 35 couples, 16 mates (45.71%), 11 not mates (31.43%) and 8 we don't know/it's implied (22.86%)

Out of 16 mates, 14 either died while being a couple or are currently together (87.5%) and 2 are broken up mates (12.5%).

Out of 11 not mates, 3 are humans (27.27%), 7 are broken up and therefore not endgame (63.64%) and 1 are currently together (9.09%)

Therefore that would make gwynriel part of the 87.5% of mates who are together and a cliché

Elucien would also be part of the 87.5% and a cliché

Elriel would be part of the 63.64% of not mates who are broken up and a cliché.

In the case of elriel being mates and together, that would make elucien mates who are not together and gwynriel would be nonexistent.

The only reason gwynriel is noted as nonexistent and not not mates and not together is because while we have got clearly stated evidence of a romance between elriel (the almost kiss in the bonus chapter), we haven't gotten confirmed evidence of a romance between gwynriel (there are theories and maybe subtext, but not clearly stated evidence).

So in this case there would be 34 couples, 16 are mates (47.06%), 10 aren't mates (29.41%) and 8 we don't know/it's implied (23.53%).

Of the 16 mates, 13 either died while being a couple or are still together (81.25%) and 3 are broken up (18.75%).

Elriel would be part of the 81.25% and a cliché.

Elucien would be part of the 18.75% and not a cliché.

However, elriel being mates would mean that Elain had two mating bonds with two different males, so although the outcome would make elriel cliché, the execution would be a first for sjm and not cliché.

In the case of elriel not being mates but together, that would make elucien mates who are not together and gwynriel would be nonexistent.

Of the 34 couples, 15 are mates (44.12%), 11 aren't mates (32.35%) and 8 we don't know/it's implied (23.53%).

Out of the 15 mates, 12 either died while being a couple or are still together (80%) and 3 are broken up (20%).

Out of the 11 not mates, 3 are humans (27.28%), 6 are broken up (54.55%) and 2 (18.19%) are still together.

Elriel would be part of the 18.19% and not a cliché.

Elucien would be part of the 20% and not a cliché.

In conclusion, the only way elriel could be cliché would be if they were not mates and didn't end up together and if they were mates who ended up together. Even in the last case, they wouldn't be too cliché because it would mean Elain had two mating bonds, which we have yet to see in any sjm book.

The endgame for both gwynriel and elucien would make them cliché, while the breaking of the mating bond would make elucien not cliché and, let's be honest, there's not any other possibility of gwynriel being endgame apart from them being mates.

You can dislike whatever ship you want, but saying that elriel is a cliché would be an objective lie, when they are the most unique couple written by sjm to date.

#elriel #pro elriel #anti gwynriel #anti elucien #elain x azriel #I love math so much

[ofbreathandflame]

(okay so this is actually a couple months ago but i was writing something and i was oh - this kind of sounds familiar to something ive written somewhere. its a draft so forgive me for jumping around hehe

ive seen the resurgence of this topic and it really hints at the differences between the way the pro/anti sides read this books.

this argument is a much older one - and the orginal argument was that sjm undervalues feminine work, not 'feyre undervalues feminine work.' the framing is very important toward the argument being made; if we say that 'feyre undervalues female work/femininity' then we're looking at a very narrow focus. we are making a statement about her character, not the characterization and writing decisions that go into making the character. when we say that 'sjm undervalues feminine/house work' then we are making a much broader statement. because then we are making a criticism toward the writing decisions, not character decisions. the reason this is important, in particular, is because often the story struggles with distinguishing sjm's voice from feyre - hence why we are often told things, and shown another.

the important takeaway from this argument is that sjm often chooses not to show or elaborate on the 'feminine' coded things; that in the books thereafter - there are two black-coded women in the background doing alll of the housework, and another older black-coded woman doing all of the medical work. and another black-coded woman in the spring court doing alllll household of the work. its that even though the 'laziness' of the sisters was a focal point in their relationship fracture, the story never actually acknowledges these things - or that even feyre did them. the focus is always on the hunting. its that the book assigns these task to black women and never talks about it again. that feyre was able to assume this fatherly role (hunting) is what the story argues is the sacrifice. bc the story is adamant about the women not falling into the 'party-planner' 'lady' 'baby-making' role. why be 'just a mother' when you can be a highlady fire wielding, death-beating, seer, goddess warrior. being 'just a mother' isn't enough. being 'just a party planner' isn't enough women who occupy that 'just a mother role' are often women who are violently killed off and unnamed, victims of hyperviolence, or characterized as vapid (rhys and tamlin mother, lyria, sorsha, marion, loa, cassian's mom, az's mom, mother archeron, dorian's mother, ember - who occupies both roles imo). there is an unwritten, negative consequence associated with being 'just a mother' -- and its not until sjm herself becomes a mother that we even see semi-positive representations of motherhood (yrene, embe, feyre; and even in this case - feyre still falls into the catergory above). in short - the narrative works against sjm newfound appreciation of motherhood and it's also demonized as femine-coded work that isn't considered valid.

instead of actually holding the sisters accountable for ‘not doing enough’ the narrative just assigns the task to invisible women and moves on from the discussion. and this segues into a wider discussion of representation and white feminism; how it’s okay to always place black/brown-coded women in invisible positions of servitude and service (madja, alis, nuala and cerridwen, nehemia, sorscha). think about this - the story essentially praises that feyre does all of this work and that she deserves to rest by....giving the work to these black handmaidens to do; ofc this argument is analytical and subjective (i.e. its my opinion), but i think there's always something so weird about framing the discussion around the fact that 'feyre deserves to rest,' instead of actually getting at the problem of having servants to begin with.

we get a moment where feyre sees her boots falling apart and instead of just taking nesta's boots (bc she was asking for another pair) or mending her own (feyre is just assumed to only have one pair). she kind of just throws herself a pity party. there’s like feyre doesn’t think like a survivalist, nor do her sisters even act realistically impoverished. even if nesta and elain where stereotypical mean girls they still would not act like that given how long they’ve been in that position. im sure nesta and elain know how to sew, so at the very least, they could’ve been mending clothes, making their own clothes and shoes. that is a ‘feminine’ coded task that could have easily been incorporated into the story to make their circumstance more believable. instead the emphasis is always put on the masculine coded activity: the hunting.

the reason the statement even comes up is because the story often disparages 'femininity' in the name of progression (i.e. this is why elain's character exists in a vacuum; she is praised for the same qualities she was vilified for). the 'progression' in this case is an approximation to masculinity. its why the sisters must go on a journey before settling into femininity and why the book essentially believes training is the answer for the illyrian women oppression. its what the book distinguished feyre away from her sister with. it’s that the story doesn’t acknowledge a decade, of at the very least, regular household tasks.

#anti sjm #anti feyre #anti feysand #anti rhysand #anti sjm: nesta archeron #anti sjm: elain archeron #anti acosf #anti sjm: feminism discussion