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jennycalendar · 1 year

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so have had a couple conversations with people about dawn that have made me think that maybe my take on dawn is worth bringing to the table! it's best framed by my convo with my mom, who was expressing general dawn frustration -- not just with dawn's characterization, but more specifically with the retcon in. and dawn's characterization, as we all know, is very "baby teenage girl" + "was originally written as younger than fourteen," so that's a straightforward explanation, but the retcon to me has always felt emblematic of dawn's status in the narrative as buffy's childhood innocence.

dawn is buffy. she's a part of buffy. the show emphasizes this in season five: that to buffy, dawn feels like more than just a sister and therefore more vital to protect. i've seen this framed as dawn being sort of like buffy's spiritual daughter, but i think that's a little off base: dawn is buffy's innocence, her girlhood, personified. she shows up in season five because if we're charting buffy's emotional journey, season five is the season where buffy feels like she is calcifying and becoming unfeeling because of everything that she's been through -- so of course this is the season where dawn springs into being but simultaneously Has Always Been There! buffy has reached a point of emotional distress so severe that the little girl in her has sprung away and out of reach, becoming a literal other person who is somehow always getting into trouble and causing problems. dawn is this little girl. dawn is a part of buffy.

and this contextualizes EVERYTHING that buffy goes through this season re: dawn. everyone in the entire world is bearing down on her girlhood, and it is her responsibility as the slayer to kill it. like from a pragmatic standpoint, killing dawn would (as giles points out) solve the big-picture problem, because killing dawn means that glory no longer has access to this Exploitable Thing that will allow her to end the world. killing dawn is also what the knights of byzantium are trying to do, and they're presented as just as much of an obstacle as glory, despite having the fate of the world in mind as well. she is posed with this essential choice, and it is so horrifying to her that the penultimate episode shows her literally retreating into her mind, playing over and over all of these moments where she was told it's her responsibility to protect this vital part of her, and the one moment she entertained the notion of just Giving Up. just Letting That Part Die.

which in turn makes her choice at the VERY end of the season so heartbreaking -- she is posed with this question and she chooses, instead, to die. she does not want to let go of her innocence. she does not want to live in a world where she has been forced to kill that part of herself, and so she tries to kill herself instead.

#meta #btvs #buffy summers #dawn summers #summers sisters #if you remove the monster this is such a human person story!#it's about a girl who is scared of being different. and how much of a toll it takes.#ALSO HELLO the IMPLICATIONS of giles saying Kill Your Girlhood. Kill It #he loves her so much but he needs her to not be a girl.

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disco-tea · 1 year

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Rewatching Real Me and like…wow…they were insane for this

#btvs 5.02 #dawn summers #buffy summers #IT WAS THERE FROM THE BEGINNING #buffy the vampire slayer #summers sisters

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invisible-pink-toast · 6 months

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Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Melissa Broder, "Problem Area"

#buffy summers #dawn summers #summers sisters #buffy and dawn #btvs #buffy the vampire slayer #my post #my edit #melissa broder #problem area #can't stop thinking about how buffy saving dawn is her refusing to let another girl (another innocent child) be sacrificed #but also buffy saving dawn is her saving herself. the girl she was when she was forced to become the slayer

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terapsina · 6 months

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Who are your favorite Fictional Sisters?

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juniperhillpatient · 1 year

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I want to hear you ramble about how awesome it would be if Dawn being a potential hadn't been a fake-out and she would have become a real slayer alongside her big sis

Oh, shit can you IMAGINE??? It makes so much sense, too, if you really think about it!!!

Okay, Watsonian POV - Dawn is MADE out of Buffy's blood. Essentially, as a human person, she IS Buffy. I mean, she's the Key, but that's WHAT she is not WHO she is. She is made from the slayer's essence. So, it's completely logical, in-universe, that she would ALSO be a slayer. It really requires no explanation or stretch of the imagination, because in the context that Dawn is literally a magical Key to a Hell dimension made from her sister (the slayer!)'s blood, why on earth WOULDN'T she be a slayer?

Now - we're talking Whedonverse - so from a Doylist POV - we know that the narrative is more important than anything. The metaphor & hashtag meaning behind the story is ALWAYS going to be just a little bit more important than the textual logical stuff in Whedonverse.

But like!!! The THING is!!! Dawn being the slayer makes sense on BOTH fronts!!! Actually!!!

Let's talk about how BTVS season 6 ended. Like, just for a second, let's talk about it. Because Buffy & Dawn had been struggling to communicate all season.

Buffy is unable to be the caretaker that Dawn needs because she is scrambling to even feel alive after being dragged out of heaven. Hashtag metaphor for suicide attempt hashtag depression ETC. Buffy is going THROUGH it in season 6 & it sucks for Dawn, who's also just lost her mom, too.

But the thing is!!! The WAY that the Summers sisters are able to overcome their difficulties & regain their strength as people & their bond as a family in the end!!! Is by COMING TOGETHER!!!

I was going to argue that Buffy & Dawn standing together & fighting is one of the strongest moments in season 6, but I'm actually going to say that it's one of the strongest moments in the series.

Buffy & Dawn fighting together is the culmination of their conflict as sisters, of Buffy not understanding that Dawn IS strong, of Dawn not understanding that Buffy DOES need support, of their loss & grief as a family - of everything.

So, yeah, Dawn becoming a slayer herself? That would've been AMAZING for the series. I would have loved to see Dawn fight alongside Buffy & I don't understand how the opportunity was slept on!!!

#buffy the vampire slayer #btvs #summers sisters #dawn summers #buffy summers #btvs meta #btvs season 6 meta #btvs season 7 meta #asks #answered #theo #thank you for giving the opportunity to scream about this theo!!!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3 <3

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oveliagirlhaditright · 7 months

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Aww, I just love this page: of Buffy looking at this picture of her and Dawn, while Dawn's in another dimension at the moment and she doesn't know if/when she's going to be able to get her out.

#buffy the vampire slayer #buffy summers #dawn summers #buffy and dawn #summers sisters #willow rosnberg #buffy and willow #willow and dawn #willow and xander #buffy and xander #the scoobies #buffy season 10

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kiwibrain · 2 months

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✨(You and your family members decided to stay in Bambouche for a bit longer)✨

BEACH EPISODE PART 2

#i went to the beach for summer vacay like 2 weeks ago #and you know bambouche is a coastal city so i liked the idea of them relaxing post game at the beach :)#dw bonnie is behind the camera with their sister playing in the water #youll see ;D #in stars and time #in stars and time spoilers #isat #isat spoilers #isat siffrin #isat mirabelle #isat isabeau #isat odile #my art

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lilblueorchid · 8 months

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Four seasons of animal crossing

Stickers I made for an upcoming convention tehehe. I hope all these little guys take time to rest in some well deserved vacations.

#animal crossing #nooklings #tom nook #timmy tommy #able sisters #nook #isabelle #brewster #sable #label #cute #cottage core #sticker #merch #four seasons #spring #summer #fall #winter

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do2faj · 20 days

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I found this in the depths of my Ipad

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soldrawss · 8 months

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A little summer rain excursion to the corner store with the Noceda kiddos.

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minty364 · 3 months

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DPXDC Prompt #145

Danny had a strong dislike for most of his parents inventions. Most of them would make him uncomfortable if they didn’t hurt him and his parents very much liked to hurt ghosts. Danny of course jumps at the opportunity to spend the summer at his cousin Damian’s house. Maddie didn’t tell him or Jazz a lot about her childhood but she did apparently have one more sister than Alicia and this sister was Damian’s mom. Jazz of course tags along she was going to keep her brother safe and also find and reprimand Batman if she can find him.

#dp x dc prompt #dp x dc #dc x dp #danny fenton #danny phantom #writing prompt #poor danny #Danny spends the summer at Wayne Manor #Danny and Damian are cousins #Maddie and Talia are sisters #The league of assassins wanted to keep an eye on a Jack Fenton after he posted his papers about ghosts #They sent Maddie to keep an eye on him not knowing that they’d fall in love #The ambient ectoplasm that caused the blockage of knowledge to Amity Park caused the league to forget about Maddie #my asks are open #all my prompts are free to use

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disco-tea · 2 years

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No because do you ever get emotional about Glory telling Dawn Buffy isn’t her sister and probably won’t come for her and might even show up to kill her instead and then Giles telling Buffy that Dawn isn’t her sister and they should probably kill her instead of trying to save her and Buffy just wants NONE OF THAT CRAP. She’s like get it out of my face SHE’S MY SISTER SHE’S MY KID SHE’S LITERALLY ME AND NOT ONLY WILL I RISK THE WORLD AND DIE TO SAVE HER I WILL LITERALLY KILL ANYONE WHOS TRIES TO HURT HER.

#I’m in my feels now #sksjshs #buffy the vampire slayer #buffy summers #dawn summers #summers sisters

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invisible-pink-toast · 2 years

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was rewatching 7x19 empty places and that scene where they throw buffy out of her own house makes me SO MAD (spike is totally right, they are sad sad ungrateful traitors) but with keeping some of the less-than-stellar writing choices of s7 in mind i can see where it came from.... for most of the characters

the potentials: are scared, are dying, don’t have superpowers. they nearly died again and have connected more with faith then buffy so i can understand them questioning buffy’s leadership. unfortunately they all conveniently forget that the only reason any of them are alive is because buffy took them in and protected them, let them stay in her house & eat her food (but the way kennedy and rona are written here is very ungrateful and aggressive - hello writers, why did you have to write the only woc in the room as the “bad guys”??)

xander: literally just went through an incredibly traumatising, painful and life altering experience in a battle that was led by buffy. so i think he gets a pass here. also he has often disagreed with buffy (usually relating to spike or angel) but definitely disagreed with her last time there was an awful publicly-gang-up-on-buffy in her living room in ‘dead man’s party’ so it’s actually pretty in character

giles: as much as i love giles in seasons 1-5 (with all his flaws and complications) the way he’s written in s6-7 is so inconsistent and ooc. i think spike hit the nail on the head with the fact that giles is feeling “outdone” and unneeded by buffy, so him being fine with taking away her leadership sucks (and s1-5 giles wouldn’t stand for it) but the way he’s written here... it makes sense.

faith: doesn’t outright challenge buffy’s leadership, but does step up and question what’s happening which... is honestly pretty fair. she is a slayer too. she’s actually the slayer rn. but buffy not trusting faith is also pretty fair (although after willow... a little inconsistent). faith went evil and then mia so next in line or not buffy had to pick up her slack. there was always going to be tension between two slayers with leading, i feel like faith was quite calm and strategic here. she also specifically says she doesn’t want to be leader but no one listens to her

anya: was dissapointed with anya here - her speech doesn’t even make sense. but given that buffy (correctly) tried to kill her when she was a vengeance demon, it’s easy to see that anya would be a little vengeful. there’s hints of this throughout the season, but post-ep5 they don’t really let anya be anything more than comic relief, which is a shame because if there was more build up (and a speech that made sense) i could really see why she’d oppose buffy here

robin wood: buffy literally said she’d kill him if he went after spike again. complicated because spike one of the team’s best fighters who they’ll need, and someone buffy cares about, but to wood spike’s just the vamp that killed his mom. so i get where he’s coming from. he’s also very chill in this scene.

the two characters who i just can’t understand here are:

willow: huh? what? “With everything that’s happened I… I’m worried about your judgement.” willow you turned evil and tried to kill all your friends and destroy the world. and buffy didn’t give up on you! you literally have no right to question other people’s judgements???

could’ve made more sense if they’d kept up this thread from ‘selfless’ - ‘I’m really sorry for letting you down / So I can’t do everything- but I should at least be able to do something. / But you need help, Buffy. I know you, and I know you’ll never admit it, but you need help.’ If Willow was coming from a place of concern for Buffy I could get it. Or if they’d built up Willow’s relationship with Faith, the similarities in their arcs, and Buffy’s distrust of Faith could put doubt in Willow’s view of her relationship with Buffy. but they didn’t. so it’s very left field for willow to suddenly not support buffy.

and of course...

dawn!!!!

dawn what are you doing?????

“Then you can’t stay here. Buffy, I love you. But you were right, we have to be together in this. You can’t be a part of it. So I need you to leave. I’m sorry. This is my house too.”

i?????

i will never understand this. i know a lot of people hate dawn - but i actually love her! i think she’s a great character!! sure she has her moments, but she’s been through a lot of trauma and the writing gets iffy with other characters throughout the seasons too. but i just don’t understand dawn here.

she has not always had buffy’s back - because dawn’s a teenager and she didn’t always understand what was going on. but dawn knows exactly what’s going on here??

this is the sister who defied everyone and refused to let dawn die - and sacrificed herself instead. the sister who came back from the dead and had to put herself back together one piece at a time. the sister who had to smile through her grief and take on a shitty job so that she could be dawn’s guardian and pay the bills. like the last big buffy-dawn moment was in ‘him’ when buffy fought through the love spell and once again risked her own life and saved dawn’s

so dawn betraying buffy here comes out of nowhere!

when i saw this for the first time and everyone was on buffy, and dawn finally stood up, i was so relieved. i thought someone would finally be on buffy’s side. for dawn to kick buffy out of their house is even more extreme then the others wanting faith to lead. i just don’t get it. it feels very ooc and is never resolved.

so i’m just going to pretend that instead of andrew going with spike - dawn is the one who goes with him!

that honestly makes sense. buffy would want dawn away from danger, she trusts dawn with spike. also then we would get dawn-and-spike scenes!! because i love their relationship! and s7 ruined and then forgot about it!! so they can make up and reconnect.

and then dawn wouldn’t be there for the coup. because if a well-written dawn was there when everyone betrayed buffy, she would’ve been throwing hands and following her sister out the door. also with willow her not supporting buffy is either properly built up, or she is the only one to support buffy and is outvoted. and i can see andrew just not saying anything because (despite being a murderer) he’s kind of nonconfrontational lmao

so then when spike and dawn get back to the house, they can both be shocked and outraged. and then either spike can leave dawn there (because someone with sense needs to be around to defeat the apocalypse) or dawn comes with him to find buffy and we get some quality buffy-dawn-spike in their own weird little family unit moments. dawn could even leave the room for spike to give buffy his big speech in private.

but dawn would never betray her sister.