one day Logan and Remus are hanging out, and then Logan starts ranting about some smart person shit, and Remus is kinda bored but he'd felt worse and what Logan was saying was actually pretty interesting so he just sat there and would sometimes ask questions or compare what Logan was talking about to something gross and stuff.
then, Logans years of being brushed aside and his input being treated as a burden and only welcome when it was considered helpful kick in, and he suddenly stops talking and gets all "oh sorry you probably don't care about that" and "this is probably boring you, we can talk about something else if you want". Remus is VERY offended by this.
he goes off about how thats stupid and Logans stupid and he's such a fucking pussy for not talking and why does he think he's so annoying huh? is that a fucking challenge bitch? "boo hoo look at me I'm Logan Sanders and I think I'm soooooo special and that no one wants to hear he talk!" and thats fucking bullshit and it sucks and he sucks!
the whole time Logan is just extremely confused because this is the most negative reaction he has ever gotten to him not talking. and its all very angsty and projectiony and Logan feels weirdly appreciated and its very intrulogical. thank you for coming to my ted talk. (idk why this is so long. I might as well just write it into a fanfic at this point lol.)
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An addition to my Logan speculation
I swear I have other theories, but I was thinking and noticed something else from my favourite episode (WTIT) that ties in with my last post.
In the end card, Logan says:
"I suppose this isn't the worst distraction Thomas could have."
That quote's been rattling around my head for a while, and I think I've figured out why. Using the series' own logic (pun sort-of-intended?), distractions have their uses: when Thomas can't reasonably do anything in the moment to solve the problem, and when Thomas is overwhelmed with intrusive thoughts and needs a break to reset.
However, by the end of the episode, Remus leaves. This means that Thomas logically should tell Nico he's busy, schedule to hang out another time, and finish cleaning his apartment. But he doesn't do this. So why is Logan accepting an illogical conclusion?
I think it comes back to self-doubt. We've seen before that a side can lose confidence in their opinions over what Thomas should do. In fact, we've now seen every other core side do this. Roman in Selfishness V Selflessness, Patton in DWIT and SvS Redux, and Virgil earliest of all in AA.
So, it's Logan's turn. Going forward, we might see Logan react in a similar way to the others when they've experienced this before. Being more hesitant to share their opinion, relying more on supporting points by others and doubting if what they believe really is true.
I find it hard to believe that Logan's objective has changed so quickly. He's been solidly established as putting Thomas' health first, more-so the way of supporting what he needs over what he wants. This contrasts with the other sides, most of all Patton and Roman, who mostly act on Thomas' desires.
That means that Logan is either in the process of re-evaluating his position on the matter, or, more likely, is suppressing his thoughts and, in a way, lying to the others.
This is where my theory comes in. I've already explained that I believe a Janus v Logan conflict is coming, and Logan lying is the perfect setup for that. What is even more interesting is that it's becoming more and more likely that this conflict is going to come from a Janus-sympathetic standpoint.
In conclusion, Logan's doubting himself and learning to hide his opinions and this is most likely going to be used as ammunition for Janus to have solid ground to stand on in the finale. I am a strong believer that Janus has a larger plan for the sides, with honest intentions to improve Thomas' life in a way the core sides will protest against, but that's a conversation for another day.
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"Logan," said Virgil, and Logan paused, turned to look at him. "Don't. Just sit down."
Logan didn't sit down, but he didn't continue moving yet either. "Why not?" he asked.
"I'm tired. Aren't you tired?"
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Rewatching the first sanders sides episode ever gave me many emotions that I don't want to think about. (nvm yes I do)
Logan is so freaking happy here oh my gosh! I've never seen him smile so much in a long time and it hurts. He's even waving happily at roman, smiling and just so pleased to be here!
Virgil foreshadowing already, when they were talking about dating and overthinking relationships no less.
And how's that going for you, roman?
Yeah that kind of hits differently now, but at least patton finally learned it for himself later on.
Oh really, and what makes you say that?
(I still can't get over logan smiling so much, though. I miss him)
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“Not that any of you care, but I am unharmed, and I don't want to talk about it."
Ramble below:
I absolutely loved drawing this up, I had such a clear cut vision for it!
Thinking about what happened off screen between Janus and Logan makes me so damn happy. I want Logan to be comforted by Janus, I want Janus to step up and impersonate Logan consensually! I want there to be an understanding between them, a shared frustration that they're never listened to the way they want to be! Shrugged off and insulted time and time again.
And to be honest, I kind of want Virgil to HATE what these two have. I want Virgil to be upset that Logan is finding solace in someone he hates, a dark side he thought he could leave behind. Virgil relates to them because he felt what they're feeling in the past, but it can't compare because they're feeling what they're feeling Now. Logan and Virgil may be on good terms, but Virgil and Janus are Not.
It's the best love V ever. /j
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I was thinking about the 5 year anniversary video and
it is interesting to me how Patton kind of decided for Logan what his role in the "family" would be. all the other sides chose it themselves, but he didn't get to.
even when he actively objects it's played for laughs and never addressed. this happened too when Patton revealed his name for him, and I just think it's interesting to note that after all these years, Logan still never gets to decide anything when it comes to Thomas, or even himself, to an extent. it's just kind of decided for him and he is expected to just go along with it, similar to how it was when Thomas dyed his hair.
ik it's mainly a "haha wine mom" moment, but that doesn't take away from how angsty it gets when you think about it.
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