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untamed-wolfenm3 days agoText

Finished my Chenqing prop, Wei Wuxian’s dizi (bamboo transverseflute), a first-class spiritual tool, from the wuxia / xanxia Chinese Drama The Untamed / Chen Qing Ling (based on danmei novel Mo Dao Zu Shi, by Mo Xiao Tong Xiu.)

Made from PVC pipe, with Apoxy Sculpt for the nodes. Etched with a woodburning tool. Spray-painted black, then coated with metallic red model paint, to give it a reddish sheen (alas, the camera didn’t pick that up). Also dotted it with flecks of a brighter red metallic acrylic. I DID NOT MAKE THE TASSEL; I bought it. The flute isn’t 100% screen accurate, but it’s not too shabby.

It’s mostly playable (I used a flute calculator), except that the high C and the low C sound the same, despite the fingering being different, so I must have been a bit off somewhere with hole placement or size. *sigh*

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I just saw someone criticize The Untamed by saying that 鈥淲ei Wuxian鈥檚 acting was bad鈥. My dude. At least come up with a believable reason that you disliked the show. Listen, all I鈥檓 saying is that Xiao Zhan鈥檚 acting raised the bar so high that it has quite literally ruined some other shows for me.

that’s what happens when people give up after the first episode. no one can tell me that that person watched wei wuxian’s entire descend into and return from madness and walked away with that opinion.

Is there any chance they literally mean Wei Wuxian pretending to be Mo Xuanyu was bad, and not XZ playing WWX? But even then, I’d have to argue that WWX’s intent was to scare people off so they didn’t get to close, so he achieved his goal.

But yeah, if they do mean XZ, I too can only figure the saw WWX play-acting crazy as MXY, then maybe saw young gremlin WWX in the flashbacks in Cloud Recesses, and thought he was like that for the entire series. Even that baffles me, though, because I thought XZ really did an excellent job of getting across the sense of him just being a kid. He might have gotten a bit annoying at times, but that’s not bad acting; that’s the **character*. And he’s a actually a hell of a lot more charming to me than Book!WWX.

And for someone to conclude that the first few eps were full of bad acting just because WWX was being a gremlin, would mean they skipped that gutting intro with the cliff, and all his clever thoughts – and then, of course, skipped the rest of the series. There’s a reason (or a thousand) why he skyrocketed to the position of being my favourite actor now, with The Untamed now being my favourite show.

As for Wang Yibo, to those who call his acting “wooden”, I have to wonder if they know what a tsundere is, and what microexpressions are. I don’t know how anyone could see LWJ’s soft looks /sweet cat-blinks at WWX (or his fury in, for example, the early library scenes), or watch the scene where he looked at WWX after watching XXC and SL leave, and seemed like he had a thousand things he wanted to say to WWX in that moment, and call any of that “wooden”.

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untamed-wolfenm6 days agoText









I think the most consistently fun way to do mdzs modern AUs is to wildly diversify WHY everyone is in the present. Like, some people got reincarnated, some people cultivated to immortality, some people are actually modern, somebody fell on a time travel array, somebody鈥檚 just a god now. I cannot think of any wangxian fish out of water meet cute premise where one of them is from the modern day and the other has been suddenly transported from ancient wizard times that would not be improved by interrupting the plot to run into Jiang Cheng, who has simply been alive the entire time, at the grocery store.

the juniors all cultivated to immortality, because they鈥檙e obviously the only ones with, like, empathy and common sense (ish) and good mental health, and now their parents are being reincarnated and it鈥檚 a whole mess

#song lan is a noted cryptid #wen ning accidentally became a god at some point

Jin Ling is just a crotchety immortal who wants all these kids uncles off his lawn

Premise where a normal fic plot is happening but it鈥檚 only going smoothly because the junior squad are on its B side furiously putting out political fires and thwarting attempted assassinations. The romantic leads do not notice.

Sizhui smiling benignly as he forces down the wrist of a minor clan member with a spiritually charged machine gun: Sir that is my infant father and it would be rude of you to ruin his day.

random malcontent: 鈥re you trying to say baby daddy?

Sizhui: I am ABSOLUTELY NOT Jingyi was right I should have let him take this one

Jin Ling, in the sprawling manor house/old dog sanctuary on the tallest mountain of the small island nation that he more or less owns, because Jins know how to invest:聽I鈥檓 not complaining. I鈥檓 just saying, you guys have all found at least one or two close relatives - Jingyi鈥檚 parents were around last century, Zizhen鈥檚 third little sister has reincarnated twice, Sizhui鈥檚 got Wei Wuxian and La Wangji at the same time, making stupid eyes at each other from across the high school classroom! - but I never even got to meet my parents the first time, and now they keep not being born!

Jingyi:聽It鈥檒l happen, and you鈥檒l see them. Remember, Baoshan said souls tend to reincarnate near living souls they already know.

Jin Ling:聽Baoshan is, like, four centuries older than we are; why do you still think she knows everything

Jingyi: Because she definitely does?

Zizhen:聽I believe it. It鈥檚 the universe鈥檚 way of being kind to immortals.

Sizhui:聽Wei Wuxian is your uncle, too - you鈥檙e welcome to drop by the school some day and see him. I鈥檒l sign you in.

Jin Ling: Ugh, fly to San Francisco just to watch him and Lan Wangji stare at each other? Pass.

Jingyi:聽Well don鈥檛 just mope聽about it. You鈥檙e insufferable when you mope. Remember the 1500s?

Jin Ling: *sits up straighter, eliciting a small mutter from the napping dog he鈥檚 definitely been petting this whole time* Oh I聽was the one聽鈥渕oping鈥 in the 1500s - what about you, after that woman -聽

[from outside: the stopping-skid of a dirt bike; a teenage voice shouting,聽鈥淚鈥檓 here, Mr. Jin! You need to fix the fucking path; that tree root nearly killed me again! I鈥檓 going to go feed the dogs!鈥

鈥淭he gardeners clipped everything last week, you brat!鈥 Jin Ling hollers back in the direction of the window, without missing a beat.聽鈥淭ry watching where you鈥檙e going! And don鈥檛 miss Luffy, she鈥檚 been hiding by the pond again!鈥

鈥淒uh!鈥 the teenage girl shouts back, more distant with the sound of feet running around the house.]

Sizhui:聽who was that?

Jin Ling: *leaning back again* Oh, just the kid who comes up a couple times a week to yell at me for no reason and pet all the dogs while pretending to do work. I pay her or something.




Jin Ling: 鈥o. No, absoLUTELY not!

Jingyi: It is! It so is!

Jin Ling: You think I wouldn鈥檛 recognize -聽

Zizhen, the only one of them who鈥檚 really dedicated time to honing the ability to examine and recognize living souls: *wanders over to the window and peers out at the girl now lifting an elderly malamute in her arms and nuzzling its belly* Yeah that is 100% your jiujiu.

#did sizhui get a job inconspicuously teaching math in his reincarnated dads鈥 high school so he can keep an eye on them? MAYBE聽 #does he feel a little bad in a stalker way? SURE聽 #but he鈥檚 doing it anyway!! [wei ying] is still very add and [lan zhan] is still very quietly autistic and they鈥檙e good kids brent and he聽 #loves them! and also all his other students! he totally teaches band too! #ironically neither of them is in band!聽 #he likes it anyway!

#meanwhile [wen qing] is in like her鈥id 20s to late 30s and a leader in some notable protest movement聽 #and wen ning maybe impulsively dropped out of heaven to save her life and then had to pretend to be a normal modern human聽 #instead of some sort of undead god of abandoned and forgotten things聽 #and now they鈥檙e playing out every single beat of a 鈥榯he old love of an immortal gets reincarnated and now they鈥檙e gonna fall in love again鈥聽 #plot - but like. she鈥檚 his beloved older sister.

#nie huaisang is a semi-talking sword who likes gossip; don鈥檛 ask questions

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untamed-wolfenm6 days agoText











The webzine I work for, Sequential Tart, is going to be doing several months鈥 worth of articles on The Untamed, releasing one (tentatively) every two weeks. I鈥檒l reblog this whenever we post a new article. (I鈥檒l be doing several myself.)

  1. The Untamed: Five Reasons to Watch鈥, by @suzettechan - a spoiler-free list of reasons why you should watch.聽
  2. 聽鈥This Tart is an Untamed Fan, Part One: Let鈥檚 Get Cultivating!鈥, by @wolfenm (me) - my very mildly spoilery run-down of my experiences with the franchise so far, and why I love it.聽

3.聽鈥The Untamed: Five Character Sets to Watch For鈥, by @suzettechan - about how the supporting characters deepened the characterizations of the protagonists.

4. 鈥This Tart Is an Untamed Fan聽鈥 Part Two: Wangxian: Show Versus Novel, and In General鈥, by me, @wolfenm. (If you love the novel, you may want to skip down that page to the 鈥渋n general鈥 part, where I talk about the boys鈥 relationship as being one of yin and yang.)

5. 聽鈥The Untamed: Four Ways Wei Wuxian Is a Rebel and One Way He Is Not鈥, by @suzettechan - title says it all, really. :)

6. 鈥This Tart is an Untamed Fan, Part Three: Wangxian Under a Microscope, Part One鈥, by me, @wolfenm - first of a multi-part subseries exploring how LWG and WWX fell in love over the course of the show.

7.聽聽鈥淭his Tart is an Untamed Fan 鈥 Part Four: Wangxian Under a Microscope, Part Two (Plus a Word on Dubbing)鈥, by me, @wolfenm (This installment covers the library scenes.)

8.鈥淭he Untamed 鈥 A Note About Snobbery鈥, by @suzettechan

9. 鈥淭his Tart is an Untamed Fan 鈥 Part 5: Wangxian Under the Microscope: Part 3鈥, by me, @wolfenm (This installment covers the Water Ghost night hunt at Biling Lake.)

10.聽 鈥This Tart is an Untamed Fan 鈥 Part 6: Wangxian Under the Microscope: Part 4鈥, by me, @wolfenm (Covers the illegal drinking and subsequent punishment.)聽

11.聽鈥淭his Tart is an Untamed Fan 鈥 Part 7: Wangxian Under the Microscope: Part 5"聽by me, @wolfenm (Covers the Cold Spring and Cold Pond Cave scenes.)

12 鈥This Tart is an Untamed Fan 鈥 Part 8: Wangxian Under the Microscope: Part 6鈥, by me, @wolfenm (Covers WWX & LWJ telling LXC & LQR about the Cold Cave; the lantern scenes; the fight with JZX; and the punishment.)

I swear it鈥檚 just a happy accident that this latest installment has been released on Xiao Zhan鈥檚 birthday 鈥.
13.聽鈥This Tart is an Untamed Fan 鈥 Part 9: Wangxian Under the Microscope: Part 7, and Another Interlude鈥, by me, @wolfenm (covers the Fengmian鈥檚 arrival in the Cloud Recesses, and Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji starting their quest for more Yin Iron.)聽

14.聽鈥This Tart is an Untamed Fan 鈥 Part 10: Wangxian Under the Microscope: Part 8“, by me, @wolfenm (covers when LWJ & WWX encounter NHS in Tanzhou, up tp when they get trapped in the temple at Dafan Mountain).

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untamed-wolfenm6 days agoText


I am always on some level thinking about Lan Sizhui鈥檚 trauma, and this was only compounded for me on this rewatch, because I鈥檇 forgotten just how absolutely abysmal Wei Wuxian鈥檚 mental health is during the burial mounds farming commune stretch of the show. Just extraordinary emotionally volatile, prone to angry outbursts, and with the capacity to drop from soaring enthusiasm to plunging despair at the drop of a hat. And they鈥檙e all living in such close quarters that his erratic moods and unacknowledged trauma that he鈥檚 stewing in just kind of spills over into the overall environment.

And certainly Wei Wuxian is great with a-Yuan, and is a positive influence for him in many ways! But none of them are living in an optimal environment - they鈥檙e struggling to get by, and frequently short on food - and Wei Wuxian in particular has an entire festering host of Issues that the current situation is only exacerbating. He鈥檚 living in a place that traumatized him, and to some extent he feels trapped there - he chose to help the Wens, but now that he鈥檚 made that decision, there鈥檚 no going back, and he explicitly knows he has no other options at this point. He misses his family and Lan Zhan. He鈥檚 practicing a brand of magic that is wreaking havoc on his temperament and eating him from the inside, and he鈥檚 gone through a voluntary but nonetheless pretty traumatizing kind of body modification. He can鈥檛 be expected to function at his best, or do as right by the people in his life as he could if he were in a healthier place.

So of course a-Yuan is affected by this! He can tell that one of his favourite people is frequently stressed, that his moods are easily ruined by little interferences, and that he鈥檚 sad for reasons that are hard for a little kid to comprehend. a-Yuan gets yelled at for uprooting a lotus plant by accident - and sees Wei Wuxian, rather than try to replant it, declare the venture hopeless (you have to be careful what you do, all the time, because he鈥檚 always hovering over a pit of despair and any little thing could flip the switch!). a-Yuan witnesses Wei Wuxian become physically violent towards Wen Ning after the JZX stabbing fiasco. For most of that outburst, a-Yuan is crying in the background after getting a truly terrifying glare from Wei Wuxian.聽

Sharing an environment with someone who does not have access to the kind of coping mechanisms they need - and compounded with the fact that a-Yuan has already gone through a considerable amount of trauma due to being a war crime survivor at an incredibly young age - is it really any wonder that teen Sizhui has so many people pleasing impulses? Is so accommodating and acquiescent and pacifying, so inclined to mediate and de-escalate? I see people saying that it鈥檚 a wonder that Sizhui turned out so well compared to everyone else, but imo the way he turned out makes complete sense, and I don鈥檛 think that his interpersonal behaviour is entirely healthy either.

For me, what exemplifies it the most is this little exchange when they鈥檙e at the restaurant with Lan Wangji:

Wei Wuxian gets upset when the topic of Jin Zixuan comes up and slams his jug on the table in a sudden burst of anger; a-Yuan reaches out and gently puts his hand on his arm. It鈥檚 a very sweet gesture, but in in the context of everything else, there鈥檚 also something unnerving about it to me, in the sense that this toddler really seems to have internalized that it鈥檚 his responsibility to manage the emotions of his caregiver.

Aaaand what do we seem him do, in episode 2, as a teenager? Once again feeling responsible for managing the emotions of people older than he is; jumping in to bail Lan Wangji out of his extremely petty vow of silence by engaging in diplomacy for him and defusing a conflict based on a grudge that he doesn鈥檛 have the context for.聽

And I think that his relationship with Lan Wangji also compounded these same issues for him. When Lan Wangji comes out of seclusion and starts being a major figure in Sizhui鈥檚 life, he鈥檚 still pretty freshly grieving. Sizhui is likely one of the few bright spots in his life, and I鈥檓 betting Sizhui picked up on that, if perhaps only subconsciously, and developed a deeply protective impulse towards Hanguang-jun. Once again, feeling responsible for managing an adult caregiver鈥檚 mood. And again, of course Lan Wangji had plenty of positive impacts on Sizhui, and was overall a force for good in his life. But both Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji have their own baggage that they鈥檙e not super great at coping with, and that has an unavoidable impact on Sizhui鈥檚 development as well.聽

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untamed-wolfenm10 days agoPhoto


18 October 2020: mika鈥82鈥瞫 10th Anniversary Follow Forever & Giveaway (锞夆棔銉棔)锞*:锝ワ緹鉁

10 years ago I remember my friends talking about tumblr and me going 鈥??? what the hell is that???鈥 and somehow 10 years later, I鈥檓 still here 銆(陹挸陹)銆

I haven鈥檛 really been actively creating anything for the most of these 10 years, but these past few months have been wild 锛(^蠅^锛) I鈥檝e met and interacted with so many new people from all over this little planet, learned so many new things, and am and will continue to be eternally grateful for all the appreciation and support that you wonderful human beans have shown me 聽锞.+(銆冿緣蠅锞)锞.+掳

Back in July/ August (??) I hit a follower milestone I never thought I would have ever hit, and was considering doing one of these then but then decided to keep it for my 10th anniversary since that鈥檚 a pretty big milestone too or maybe because I was too lazy then asdfghjkl

quick shout-out to some mutuals 鈾(藛鈱K喸) to pat, nish, candice, ems, tai, ani, hope, hn盲, min, vish, haoppo, rappa聽(you鈥檙e all tagged below I think):聽thank you so much for entering my life and all the interactions my tumblr experience would鈥檝e been completely different without yall (夂b棥夂)鈾* and to all my other mutuals too, thank you so much! ^^

and special shout out especially to tai and min for dragging me into at least four hellholes that have changed my life very much and kept me very busy this past 1+ year

ANYWAY to celebrate, I鈥檒l be organising my first (and probably only because I am #broke) giveaway 锛堗箲鉁р垁鉁о箲锛塧nd also doing a quick follow forever (not directly tagging some - mostly people who aren鈥檛 really in the mxtx/ 2ha/ danmei/ cdrama circles - because I鈥檓 SHY but they鈥檙e really awesome blogs nevertheless)


@bees0are0awesome@bluhtack@candicewright鈥 @/dappermouth @feiyunn@holographings@joshua-beeking@kaileech@omnipah@oneautumnfox@sweetlittlevampire@wingyenart@yukacchi




@aheartfullofjolllly @alienwlw @/anya-chalotra @backtogusu @baoshan-sanren@coffhwee@distantsnows鈥嬄@dramavixen@elvencantation@gusucloud@highwarlockkareena@jacksonyees鈥嬄@kastors@lan-xichens@lanzan@laruines@leoyunxi@linglynz@luojins@luo-yunxi鈥 @/marwankenzari @movielosophy@mylastbraincql鈥嬄@nyx4@ohsehuns@paulyubin鈥 @/scinnlaece @sishengpeaks@sobichen@stebeee鈥 @/strangehighs @thirdofjune@tiesanjiao@wangxianbunnydoodles@wangxiians@wirwerdensiegen@xiaosean@xiuyaas鈥嬄@xzstudios@yesdramas@yibuo@yiqiie@zuyilong


@/beholdingslut @choowanning鈥嬄燖/dailycolorfulgifs @/fouryearsofshades @/fuckyeahchinesefashion @/hanfu-asks @/hanfugallery @hunxi-guilai@sarah-yyy@theuntamednarrator鈥 @/ziseviolet

(if anyone knows or can guess which show that gif up there is from鈥 maybe you鈥檒l get a special boost??? <: maybe鈥.???)

((jk see rules below I will stick by them))

鉁 giveaway rules

  • Reblog this post, each reblog (maximum of 2) will count as one entry
  • Not limited to followers only, so you don鈥檛 have to follow me specially for this (my tumblr is a mess I know)
  • Open worldwide! Hopefully it鈥檚 somewhere the Singapore postal service can reach
  • I鈥檒l be opening this for 3 days, from 18 October 2020 12am (GMT+8) to 20 October 2020 11.59pm (GMT+8)
  • I鈥檒l pick 1 winner randomly (by one of those online random generators) on 21 October 2020 and announce publicly + send you a dm, please reply within 24h with your shipping address and selected merch!

giveaway items

I鈥檒l be ordering these from the official CQL merch store on Taobao. The winner will get to choose 2 different merch out of these 3 options, e.g. 1 lipstick and 1 tassel, but not 2 lipsticks.

  1. Cigalong x The Untamed lipstick (choose only 1 out of the 5, depending on store availability)
  2. WangXian Standee (choose only 1 out of the 10, depending on store availability)
  3. Lotus Tassel

More info on items below the cut!

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untamed-wolfenm10 days agoAnswer
Hello! Do you happen to have a master post of all of your asks/posts anywhere? Just to help me navigate! ^^

Hi, thanks for the question! (Image via)


For all my own posts, please see my China tag (that鈥檚 the tag I use for my original posts). For navigation via tags, my聽Tags page聽has links to common & useful tags on my blog. I鈥檒l be updating the Tags page and this Masterpost as needed ^^.

Masterpost of Ziseviolet鈥檚 Replies, Part 1 (Part 2聽here):

Hanfu Terms:

Hanfu History:

Wedding Hanfu:

Modernized/Modified Hanfu:

Hanfu Accessories:

Hanfu Hair Accessories:

Hanfu Hairstyles:


Men鈥檚 Hanfu:

Men鈥檚 Headwear/Hairstyles:

Hanfu Undergarments:

Wearing Hanfu:

Making Hanfu:

Buying Hanfu:

Hanfu in films/dramas/animations:

Hanfu Revival Movement:

Comparison with Kimono and Hanbok:

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untamed-wolfenm10 days agoAnswer

What did commoners wear in ancient China?

Hi, thanks for the question! Keep in mind that fashion in ancient China changed over time, so every time period/dynasty鈥檚 clothing style differed a little.聽

The following info is from an online fashion encyclopedia (unfortunately, the original link no longer works):

In general, for all time periods of ancient China:

- The basic garment for all classes and sexes was a loosely cut robe with sleeves that varied from wide to narrow, worn with the left front panel lapped over the right panel, the whole garment fastened closed with a sash. Sometimes worn with a coat/jacket.聽


- Commoners wore a shorter version of the robe鈥攖high-length or knee-length鈥攚ith trousers or leggings, or a skirt. The upper class wore their clothes long (ankle-length), often with wide, dangling sleeves. Both men and women wore skirts and trousers.聽


- Men鈥檚 clothing was often made in solid, dark colors, except for clothing worn at court, which was often brightly ornamented with woven, dyed, or embroidered patterns. Women鈥檚 clothing was generally more colorful than men鈥檚.聽


- All adults had long hair put up in a bun or topknot, and for men, some kind of hat or other headgear.


If you want to learn more, I highly recommend reading the book聽Chinese Clothing聽by Hua Mei, which goes into great detail, dynasty by dynasty, on Chinese fashion over time.聽

All the illustrations above are from聽100 Portraits of Chinese Historical Customs.Please check it out for more amazing depictions of ordinary life in ancient China!

You can also check out my commoners hanfu tag for more resources. Hope this was helpful! :)

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Jingyi, having grown up with this, thinks this is how friendship works and thus acts the same to Jin Ling. However, Jin Ling thinks he’s being babied and they fight.


Things Sizhui has Absolutely Done over the course of growing up with Jingyi:


Sizhui just picking up Jingyi’s chicken with his own chopsticks and putting it in Jingyi’s mouth after Jingyi drops it in shock which Sizhui is also experiencing is such a hilarious characterization moment… Sizhui confirmed for ultimate mother hen… not even Hanguang Jun carrying booze up to his room can stop Sizhui from fussing over his best friend like a single parent with a messy toddler.

  • Licked his thumb to wipe dirt off of Jingyi’s face.
  • Told Jingyi to chew with his mouth closed.
  • Picked up a napkin to wipe off Jingyi’s face after a meal.
  • Started brushing off and readjusting the folds in Jingyi’s clothes before a meeting with one of the Clan Masters (while gently but firmly lecturing him about not making a scene).
  • Had to restrain himself so hard from readjusting Jingyi’s headband despite having grown up with the taboo himself, because it’s crooked and Jingyi is only making it worse.
  • Pulled out his sword for Jingyi to use as a mirror in the above situation because it’s honestly making him twitchy.
  • Caved one (1) time and actually just fixed the goddamn headband himself. Jingyi hasn’t let him live it down.
  • Played Jingyi a lullaby to help him fall asleep.
  • Almost single-handedly nursed a sick Jingyi back to health after panic-reading everything the library pavilion has on healing and teaching himself how to make soup.

Ouyang Zizhen is happily letting Lan Sizhui readjust his robes and pat his head, while Jin Ling and Lan Jingyi argue in the background


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*Pinches the bridge of her nose.* People, 鈥渆veryday鈥 is an adjective alone, telling what kind of a thing something ELSE is. 鈥淚t鈥檚 an everyday outfit 鈥 there鈥檚 聽nothing special about it.鈥 If you want the adjective-noun combo that tells WHEN something happens, you want to use 鈥渆very day鈥, WITH A SPACE. 鈥淓very day, I wake up with existential dread.鈥 I have seen the wrong version being used SO OFTEN lately, and it鈥檚 driving me nuts! LOL

Posting this on this blog because of all the people I’ve seen in the TU/CQL/MDZS fandom lately using the damn聽鈥淓veryday is everyday鈥 quote from Mo Dao Zu Shi. Yes, I understand that English is not everyone’s first language – honestly, not every person who speaks English as a first language gets it, either. But that鈥檚 why this post exists: to teach people that聽鈥渆veryday鈥 and聽鈥渆very day鈥 DO NOT MEAN THE SAME THING!! LOL



鈥淓very day is every day.鈥 < THIS WAY!!! PLEASE, I’M BEGGING YOU ALL!!! LOL

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I鈥檝e read the original novel. Have you?

Spoken like a true die-hard shipper.

(vidder: https://m.weibo.cn/profile/7333486741)

I was not expecting those graphics at the end. Hilarious.

It always makes me LOL when I see people interviewing ask questions that make it clear they don鈥檛 know what the story is about.

This is actually one of my favourite interviews with GG. He seems to have a little bit of attitude in it and it鈥檚 cute.

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鈥淏ut if you don鈥檛 believe me, how can you help me?鈥

okay but something I find so tragic but so good about sunshot and beyond dynamic is how it鈥檚 communication misunderstanding but not about the words they say but about the meaning that music has for them???

bc for Lan Wangji at this point it鈥檚 the biggest love gesture he can give. look, I composed us a love song! look, I learned all those new scores to help you! look, I want to play for you and for no one else! LWJ is a professional musician and music is the only form of self-expression he has. he looks at his feelings, so great he doesn鈥檛 know how to deal with them, and he puts them into his music. any time he proposes to play for WWX he is saying: 鈥淚 care for you the most鈥 and every time Wei Wuxian answers with the harshest rejection and it hurts as hell but LWJ won鈥檛 give up!! he will go and break his uncle鈥檚 explicit orders to learn more because even if WWX doesn鈥檛 want it now, Lan Wangji wants to be ready to help whenever his soulmate is ready to accept it. like you know that awkward moment when LWJ comes to play for him right after he wakes up after sunshot鈥檚 final battle? LWJ is like I played for him every day, surely he gets it?? but no he doesn鈥檛 and it鈥檚 because he uses music for completely different things!!!

because Wei Wuxian鈥檚 whole things is Controlling through music. he doesn鈥檛 just bottle up his emotions, he is taught to constantly have them under control, to be careful who he expresses them to, to control the tension in the room, in his family, through carefully crafted image of himself, always smiling, always cheerful

and this becomes so much more important with Tiger Seal Amulet, because he cannot slip, cannot compromise himself with anger or fear. Chenqinq is a tool of control first and foremost - it can control resentful spirits but most importantly it can control Wei Wuxian鈥檚 emotions. he plays Wangxian to calm himself or others. he puts just enough emotions into constraint of a song so he can still have full control over it. where Lan Zhan expresses his emotions through music, Wei Ying contains them

so what Wei Wuxian hears whenever Lan Wangji offers to play for him is 鈥淚 want to control you. I don鈥檛 trust you to deal with it on your own鈥 and he is rightfully hurt by it. if Lan Zhan knew him, as he claims to, if they were still equal, then there would be no need for that, right? it鈥檚 the same as with 鈥渃ome to Gusu with me鈥 - what Lan Zhan says is, 鈥渓et me take care of you鈥 but what Wei Ying hears is 鈥渓et me protect others from you鈥

we joke about how oblivious WWX is about how he was recognized after his resurrection but if music is his tool for controlling, how could he see it as a love confession? he and Lan Zhan are on the same page and the only thing they need to figure out now is how to communicate it and they do! Wei Ying says 鈥淚 need your help with cleansing those evil spirits鈥 and Lan Zhan says 鈥渉ere is your fixed flute so we can play together鈥. LWJ learns to show his love through other gestures. WWX starts playing Wangxian to express his gratitude and then his longing. it takes time and effort as communication does, but it鈥檚 no wonder this story almost ends with a duet played by a waterfall, across the water. they are reaching for each other and this time they both finally know what the other means

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untamed-wolfenm18 days agoText





what does it mean, what does it all mean

Okay the three sentences in Chinese are not similar at all. The three聽鈥渄elicate鈥漵 used are all different. They are, respectively from JFM to WWX to JC: 鑴嗗急锛屽▏姘旓紝閲戣吹. They鈥檙e synonyms to a degree but are not necessarily interchangeable.

More explanation to come in 6-8 hours after I sleep a lil.聽

Okay so:聽

JFM: the context of this scene is Jiang Yanli stuffing a bunch of packed food and things for her brothers to take on their trip to Qishan. JFM eventually told her to stop and said the disciples of Yunmengs are not so聽鈥渃uiruo鈥 鑴嗗急 that they can鈥檛 withstand a little聽鈥渇englang鈥 椋庢氮 from the outside. First,聽鈥渇eng鈥檒ang鈥 literally means wind and wave, and it is used to describe hardship, trouble, danger etc.聽鈥淐ui鈥檙uo鈥澛 鑴嗗急 means fragile, as聽鈥渃ui鈥 means brittle and聽鈥渞uo鈥 means weak. Of the three聽鈥渄elicates鈥 it carries the least negative connotation. A personal can be emotionally聽鈥渃uiruo鈥 fragile and/or physically聽鈥渃uiruo鈥 fragile. Of the three,聽鈥渃uiruo鈥 is probably the most matter-of-fact term. It鈥檚 a quality of a person, kind of like鈥 well I鈥檓 good at music and he鈥檚 good at sports.聽

What JFM is trying to say, if I were to translate that scene, is: 鈥淭he disciples of Yunmeng Jiang are not so weak that we cannot withstand pressure from external forces.鈥澛

WWX: now, the term wwx uses is聽鈥渏iaoqi鈥澛 濞囨皵. The closest thing in English that I can think of that would both fit the definition and the context of his use of this word is聽鈥減rissy鈥. So in the scene, LWJ is saying to WWX because of WWX鈥檚 wounds, he shouldn鈥檛 get into the water (probably for infection control purposes). And WWX makes a face and replies聽鈥淚鈥檓 not so 鈥榡iaoqi鈥. Rather, it鈥檚 you - the medication Wen Ning gave you, how is it?鈥 The term聽鈥榡iaoqi鈥 is most of the time used for girls who are kind of鈥rincess-y, the kind that is very proper, won鈥檛 ever get messy, and who doesn鈥檛 like to do anything physical. It can however, also be used for boys. Nie Huaisang鈥檚 behaviour during their night hunt in the early episodes could be described as a little聽鈥渏iaoqi鈥. He鈥檚 certainly聽鈥渏iaoqi鈥-er than his brother NMJ. A classic display of聽鈥渏iaoqi鈥 is like鈥 some kid trips and scrapes their knee a little bit and makes a huuuge fuss over nothing.

JC: So the last聽鈥渄elicate鈥, 鈥渏ingui鈥 閲戣吹 is the word that can be used positively or negatively. It鈥檚 literal meaning is 鈥減recious鈥 or聽鈥渆xpensive鈥. jin = gold, gui = expensive. When used to describe items, it typically takes on it鈥檚 normal surface level meaning, that being precious, expensive, rare etc. When used to describe people, that鈥檚 when the meaning can get murky.聽Sometimes,聽鈥渏ingui鈥 is used positively/unironically to talk about someone of prestige and importance. For example, a servant, upon hearing their beloved young master had to spend a week out roughing it in the woods could probably say something like,聽鈥溌犫楯ingui鈥 as our young master, how horrible to think he had to spend a week alone in the woods! That鈥檚 ghastly!鈥 In this case, the servants do mean well: their young master is someone who is important and also probably someone who鈥檚 never had to endure much discomfort because of his noble birth. People who are unironically called聽鈥渏ingui鈥 are probably nobility, royalty etc, and are typically given more respect in society. Sometimes,聽鈥榡ingui鈥 can used as an insult. For example, one maid might complain that the rice was cooked too hard or that her chores are too difficult, and another maid might say to her,聽鈥淲ow, you鈥檙e so 鈥榡ingui鈥.鈥 (Like: wow, fucking get over yourself.)聽聽

For Jiang Cheng, it鈥檚 probably the most heartbreaking of the three聽鈥渄elicates鈥. Because he had said,聽鈥淵ou promised me when I become head of the family, you鈥檇 be my subordinate.鈥 And WWX replied,聽鈥淚鈥檓 sorry, I broke my word.鈥 And Jiang Cheng chuckles a little bitterly and says,聽鈥淭hings being as they are, how聽鈥榡ingui鈥 a person must I be, to still need you to apologize to me?鈥 Meaning: I鈥檓 not so 鈥渏ingui鈥 that I still need you apologize. He鈥檚 almost saying that he鈥檚 not so important that he has to actually hear WWX鈥檚 apology, especially since WWX already gave him his core.聽

So that鈥檚 the difference between the three scenes. I honestly don鈥檛 think it鈥檚 connected, but to each their own.聽

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untamed-wolfenm20 days agoAnswer

Those racers probably hate both being beaten by an idol but also having to deal with an audience of young girls that you’d normally find on a boyband concert or a dancing competition or a mushy romance show - basically stuff that oh-so-macho athletes think they’re way above. I know I’m projecting here, but if some of these guys are anything like tons of male athletes I’ve met they were probably fuming with rage. Just me venting my thoughts

some cmtjjs were saying they were being mocked for crying when yibo hit the ground so i dont doubt theres some level of resentment for these huge crowds of girls who normally wouldnt be at a race track if it wasn’t for yibo

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I never watched The Untamed (aka 榄旈亾绁栧笀/闄堟儏浠 as some of you may know)聽 nor read the novel, but it really hurts whenever I see a relevant post on Tumblr, Twitter or any other platform, written in English or another language I cannot comprehend, how you can tell the ops are always so enthusiastic and passionate, and how you can just feel even on the other side of the screen that there is something amazing and ineffable in this kind of communication, how it feels, as a fellow Chinese (a still largely conservative and misogynistic country under a hyper-conservative regime), not only having a Chinese work that is well-known and loved by people around the world but more importantly a work that depicts homosexual relationships and is written by a young woman.

Had it not been for the fact that we still hear nothing from the author and it鈥檚 been nearly a year and a half since she just disappeared.

For those of you who don鈥檛 know the context: Publishing materials depicting homosexual (mostly m/m) relationships (better known as聽鈥榶aoi鈥) with sexual depiction is almost never legal in China. There was a time when the government was relatively relaxed with this kind of things, and LGBTQ+ themes even made their way to the cinemas (Peony Pavillion, Lan Yu, Farewell My Mistress, to list but a few). And then there came another decade or so, when they had to be published 鈥榙iscreetly鈥, when authors publish zines and books through individual聽鈥榰nofficial鈥 studios (because the censorship process for official publishing makes it an impossibility).聽

By the time of 2012 they were common practices, meaning everyone publishing and purchasing knew that it was technically illegal, but given the increasing popularity of this practice (and the seeming acquiescence from the government), the hope of us eventually emerging into daylight was high.聽

Even as the political atmosphere became increasingly draconic, none of us really paid attention, just continued on writing, reading, and publishing, because we were just a small sub-group that belonged to a generation of pop-culture fans, and we did no one harm.

Until the end of the year 2017.

When the news of the police breaking into a comic-con and arresting an author right from her stall surfaced on the Internet, when it was reported by the government鈥檚 official newspapers as (roughly) 鈥榓 serious criminal case that the police had finally resolved in joint effort, arresting all involved鈥 (it is hard to deliver the nuance in translation, but basically you only see the same phrasing for drug cartels), the Internet went raving. It happened that the author, 娣辨捣鍏堢敓, was reported by another individual with whom she once had an online argument with. The publishers and several who worked in the publishing studios were also arrested.

I remember the nights I spent sleepless looking at her social network account. I never knew nor read her works, but seeing a young woman at your age, with a normal and law-abiding family, a kind and upright personality, a promising future, and so, so much love and passion and talent for creating beautiful stories, just got her life ruined over personal feud, all for doing something that harms no one, it was enough to break anyone鈥檚 heart.

Many people back then had said that this whistleblower just聽鈥榦pened the Pandora鈥檚 Box鈥, and they were not wrong. Can you imagine how all those individual publishing studios disappeared almost overnight? Can you imagine how many books just like The Untamed were waiting to be published and read and loved but never had the chance anymore?

It turned out that the Pandora Box analogy was more than accurate. For those of you who live in a democratic country and can鈥檛 imagine how this whole whistleblowing works: imagine you鈥檙e back in nursery or elementary school, with an extremely draconic and paranoid teacher who just needs to be in control of everything, they told everyone in the class from day 1, that anyone who brought sweets to class should be reported and their sweets confiscated, partly rewarded to the one who reported the incident to the teacher. Even if they know that everyone brings some sweets. How will it turn out? It doesn鈥檛 take long for the whistle-blowing to be in full bloom. You may be afraid, you may not trust anyone else. But most importantly, anyone can inflict harm upon anyone for the pettiest reasons precisely because everyone is guilty.

Now imagine in this case, you鈥檙e not facing a nursery teacher but a government that can and will ruin your life (and the stigma of a criminal record, following esp. a woman, in an ultra-conservative society) just because you wrote about same-sex love and had no legal way to get through the censorship so had to resort to underground publishing which everyone thought would have get better just a few years ago.

You start to see groups dedicated to teaching homophobic groups how to report m/m romance authors to聽鈥榞ive them a few years behind bars and ruin their entire life鈥. You start to see readers threatening to聽鈥榯hrow the author into jail鈥 and actually proceeding to do so because聽鈥業 don鈥檛 like her work and she is breaking the law anyway鈥. You even start to see authors reporting on each other out of jealousy.

Another even worse effect of this kind of intimidation is that it absolutely destroyed whatever trust that should have been between individuals. We can leave discussion of Chinese civil society to another day, but let it suffice to say, from my personal experience, that it prevented us from standing up for each other. Many of us harbour the selfish thought that as long as we didn鈥檛 speak up for the arrested and didn鈥檛 鈥榞et involved鈥, the legal enforcement was going to take their sacrificial victim and be satisfied and leave us alone. Even worse, even if we did want to speak up, there still was the possibility that the arrested author would get punished even more severely. It was a kind of mindset the government wants to put into your mind - if you make a fuss, you will harm her even more.

So after some time had passed, we were getting used to the new norm, which, hopefully, wasn鈥檛 too different from before - no more mainland publishing studios, yes; arrest not common but now a substantial possibility, yes; the author arrested was later reported to have suffered severe mental breakdowns over the period of detention (and imagine which of us won鈥檛, being in her position, for several years now?), yes; but the writing went on.

It went on for just long enough that some of us were starting to forget about the previous one, when another author, 澶╀竴, was arrested in 2018.

She was sentenced to 10 years in prison (her appeal recently defeated and this became the final ruling), in a country where homicide and murder (especially that of women, inflicted by men) typically gets only 5 or even less.

I am expecting possible refutations in the comment section such as that聽鈥榮he writes pedophilic stories (one of her protagonist being 17) it鈥檚 COMPLICATED!鈥櫬犫業t鈥檚 not about ALL yaoi writers!鈥

But she was not charged for that. The judge was聽鈥榮hocked by the obscenity and abomination鈥 in her writings, hence the sentence, but whether it was more because of the homosexual nature, or the fact that the protagonist is 17, I鈥檒l leave it to you to contemplate. She was charged for writing and publishing because it was illegal. The homosexuality (and her being a woman) only made it worse, of course.

Unsurprisingly, there was also a whistle-blower.

By the year 2019, in just less than 2 year鈥檚 time, most of us were used to the new-norm. To some of us, the new-norm meant that writing and publishing yaoi could really risk arrest, that writing and publishing smut material involves much hassle because we need to find a place (oftentimes AO3 or other overseas sites that required vpn) to put them and not get noticed by the algorithm.

To some others, it meant the knowledge that you could now threaten anyone you don鈥檛 like with a similar fate as 娣辨捣鍏堢敓 and 澶╀竴, and there is actually a promising chance of you succeeding, especially if you get the noises up.

Now back to the author of 榄旈亾绁栧笀, 澧ㄩ閾滆嚟Mo Xiang Tong Xiu was once acclaimed as a rising-star of Chinese yaoi writing back when聽 浜烘福鍙嶆淳鑷晳绯荤粺 came out. What many of non-Chinese readers do not know or do not see on a regular basis, perhaps, is how much hate her fame entails. There were, of course, dubious issues regarding her handling of certain materials in her stories, but we can leave that, too, to another day. What goes without saying is that the immense group of haters also consisted of, as I mentioned above, hard-line homophobes and their large following, haters who simply聽鈥榙on鈥檛 like her work and her noisy fans鈥, or, at times, fellow authors, out of jealousy. (She was a common target in a forum dedicated to web-novel authors discussing writing techniques and stuff, and the words they use are the ones I won鈥檛 use on my worst enemy.)

Well, we think, with the huge success that is The Untamed 榄旈亾绁栧笀, which already had anime, live action drama, and Blessing of Heaven鈥檚 Officials 澶╁畼璧愮鈥檚 animal adaptation in the line, Mo Xiang Tong Xiu must be the safest author within the circle. And she may well be, despite the fact that her publisher (a Chinese web-novel site called JinJiang, which has become notorious for exploiting authors to the very extreme), actually claimed full ownership of the author鈥檚 writing, the author鈥檚 pen-name, so that authors who signed contract essentially have NO say over their OWN works and adaptations and one can only speculate on the division of incomes.

Oh, did I mention that she just left a post asking people聽鈥榥ot to worry鈥 and just disappear since May, 2019, with many of her haters celebrating her alleged arrest at the time, claiming with pride that 鈥榤onths after months of collective reporting to the police has finally yielded fruit鈥?

Of course we don鈥檛 know if she is indeed under arrest. Best case scenario, she is safe and sound and may be back any time, and you can all dismiss this post as paranoid rambling, which I anticipate will be torn to shreds by some of my fellow Chinese once they stumble upon this for 鈥榖ad-mouthing our beloved country and giving Chinese pop-culture a bad name鈥.

Worst case scenario, I might have just harmed her unintentionally and irretrievably by writing this very post, and I鈥檇 be a bitch just like those haters who seem fixed on ruining her life, because the legal system here don鈥檛 like fingerpointing, especially don鈥檛 like letting聽鈥榝oreigners鈥 know about what they鈥檝e got behind closed doors.

But it is really painful, thinking of what have been happening these past few years and not being able to speak up, or speaking up and having to face severe backlashes because most people take a utilitarianist approach and decide it鈥檚 best to be silent. It is painful seeing that what used to be a solidarity of (dominantly female) writers and readers now turn on each other, some are full of distrust, some write with fear, some blinded by petty hatred and the addictive, empowering feeling that they can ruin a person鈥檚 life for good if they try. Some are afraid, some are cynical, some are hopeful, some are still fighting. But what鈥檚 the same is that we are all vulnerable now, to a kind of mistrust and hatred, to fear, and, perhaps less conspicuously, to a kind of cynicism that is simply contradictory to what we claim to celebrate - the right to love and love freely.

It is painful because it makes all the celebration of love and sexual liberation almost meaningless, if we so easily make peace with the fact that several innocent young women are suffering at this moment simply for doing what we love doing, for creating the things we love reading.聽

It is painful because, no matter how beautiful a story The Untamed and the like is, and how many people鈥檚 heart it has indeed reached, how widely an audience, French-speaking, English-speaking, Spanish-speaking, German, Russian, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese-speaking, it has, there are actual suffering that lies so close to it and cannot be dismissed from the picture as irrelevant.

Stories are human creations, and their beauty lies in their ability to connect our hearts, across cultures, borders, languages, ethnicities, even just for a moment. But now, if we have to turn our eyes away from the sufferings that contextualizes the creation of such stories, if we allow our hearts to be touched by the story itself but not by what happens around it, then what will such stories become?

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