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writeitinsharpie · 2 months

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ever think about the great sect madams of the generation before?

about madam yu, the violet spider, one of few in her generation to earn a title (even her husband was only ever sect leader. even wen ruohan was never regarded by a title other than sect leader wen). about yu ziyuan, about what she was like before years of jealousy and envy twisted her to only her most bitter parts? about the girl who was the third daughter of a sect leader, and then the wife of another, and yet all of her immense martial power meant nothing to the society around her.

about madam jin, known only by her title and never given a name or a natal sect, who was still somehow the closest friend to yu ziyuan. the mother of the sect heir and yet a wife who can do nothing but stand by as her husband dishonors their marriage over and over again.

about madam lan, the murderess locked up for her crimes, never seeing a trial and dying alone, only allowed to see her children once a month. who was she before she was the wife of the lan sect leader? was there a reason she killed the lan elder? did she want that marriage to qingheng-jun? did she even want the children she was kept from?

about the madams nie and wen, who only exist by implication, by the knowledge that their children exist and therefore so must they. about how so little is even implied about them?

#sharpie says shit #ma dao zu shi #mdzs #cql #madam yu #yu ziyuan #madam lan #madam jin #madam nie #madam wen #idk i just find the women of the generation before Very Interesting #mostly because we get barely anything about them compared to their husbands #madam lan is the exception but only kinda because there are still SO MANY QUESTIONS #this isn't madam yu apology btw i just think looking at her character is Neat #she is obviously a woman of great physical power #but due to the state of Being Female all of her social power is basically dependent on jfm #and i think years of being powerless while Wanting More takes their psychological toll #also how did she and madam jin even become friends? were they sisters? sect sisters? sworn sisters?#we're never told

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b0dwr1ter · 8 months

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#jiang yanli #wen qing #yu ziyuan #madam lan #meng shi #cangse sanren #Madam nie #granny wen #mo xuanyu #Mdzs polls #mdzs women

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mdzscrapbook · 2 years

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The ladies of MDZS - Love Nikki Edition

So I started playing Love Nikki again and the ladies from MDZS are my current inspiration. Keep in mind I was limited - I do not own every item from the game. My goal was to do only the unseen ladies at first, but Twitter voted for me to make Love Nikki design for every female characters of the story. Here my WIP.

Madam Lan

Madam Wen

Madam Nie (First Wife)

Concubine/Second Wife Nie Miao because of the fanon idea she was part of an ethnic minority from China.

Yu Ziyuan

Meng Shi

Wen Qing

A-Qing

Next on my list are Madam Jin, Qin Su and Jiang Yanli, in that order.

#a-qing #wen qing #mdzs #cql #love nikki #madam lan #madam nie #madam wen #meng shi #yu ziyuan

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noathehufflepuff · 1 year

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Pre-show, The untamed, but it’s the real Madam’s of the cultivation world.

#the untamed #mdzs #madam jin #madam yu #madam Nie #madam Wen #madam lan

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sweets-yandere-lover · 1 month

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wifiwuxians · 7 months

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xichen birthday art from 2020 to 2022! unfortunately i was sick this year and forgor💀 but at least we have these to look back on

#lan xichen #nie mingjue #jin guangyao #madam lan #lan wangji #these are fun bc they let me see my progress too somewhat #my art

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lilapplesheadcannons · 1 year

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The Imaginary Boyfriend

"I have a boyfriend."

Lan Qiren's knife slipped on the dinner plate with an ugly screeching sound. His brother let his piece of steak slip off from his fork, his mouth gaping at the sudden proclamation.

Lan Xichen thanked his lucky stars that he hadn't taken a sip out of his water yet. Looking at the murderous look his mother was casting towards her husband and brother-in-law, they were in for a lecture on proper dinner etiquette expected from adults the moment they got out of the restaurant.

Mrs Lan broke the awkward silence," That's great, A-Zhan. What's his name?"

Lan Zhan shifted in his high chair, "Ummm, his name is..... his name is XianXian."

"That's the name of your bun.. ouch! Honey!"

Mrs Lan, who did amateur theatre in her 20s, conveyed the promise of a slow, painful demise to her husband via a single glance. "That's lovely, darling. Does XianXian study in your school?"

Lan Zhan shook his head, "He doesn't study at all."

He used his fork to spear a piece of chicken before adding as an afterthought, " XianXian draws."

Lan Qiren opened his mouth before closing it abruptly. The rest of the dinner passed without any further interruption. Lan Zhan started to nod off as dessert arrived despite Xichen's best efforts to keep him awake and was fast asleep by the time he was secured in his car seat. Uncle opened his mouth again to say something but seemed to change his mind after catching Xichen's eyes in the rear view mirror.

Later, once Lan Zhan has been deposited safely in his bed, hugging his plush bunny and Lan Xichen has been permitted to stay up another half an hour extra because it's friday, the adults gathered in the living room for a drink before bed.

"He has gotten an imaginary friend," Lan Qiren winced into his drink. "Normal for his age. I wouldn't worry about it."

"An imaginary boyfriend, ha ha."

"I am not worried. And he could be a real friend," Mrs Lan sounded like she was trying to convince herself.

"A new boy? Starting in the middle of the school year? And A-Zhan making friends with him? He doesn't even get along with the Nie kid."

"They just got off on the wrong foot."

All three adults winced this time. It was a good thing the Nies were a close family friend who let bygones be bygones. If it were the Jins or the Wens...

"I just think he might become even more reluctant to get along with his classmates if he's spending even more time inside his own head."

Lan Qiren paused to mull his brother's words. "He'll grow out of it, I am sure. Kids forget things quickly."

Except Lan Zhan proved his uncle wrong. He came down to breakfast on Saturday morning with stories about how XianXian had a mother who was a fairy. In the afternoon, he plopped himself in front of the rabbit hutch and solemnly introduced the bunnies to the drawing of their new parent, a red and black round blob drawn with crayons. At bedtime, Mrs Lan had to kiss 'XianXian' good night as well.

On Sunday, Uncle took both of them to softplay. Lan Zhan took a look at the screaming children and promptly hid himself in a corner of the ballpit. He only mentioned XianXian on the car ride home. "XianXian can climb up the big slide."

At night, 'XianXian' was taken down from his perch on top of Lan Zhan's study desk and was laid down beside his pillow. On a brighter note, Lan Zhan didn't put up his usual resistance to brushing his backteeth once Mother told him XianXian brushed his teeth every night.

The next week, the family was treated with more stories of XianXian. XianXian could eat spicy food. XianXian could draw better than anyone (at this point, Lan Zhan cast a regretful glance at his brother). XianXian was an only child till Wednesday, but by Thursday afternoon, he had gained an older sister and a younger brother. XianXian had parents who were in America. And they would bring toys for Lan Zhan too when they came back. XianXian not only had an uncle, but he had an aunt, too. He was never made to eat bell papers. XianXian loved swimming. XianXian got along with everyone, even HuaiSang.

By week 2, even Lan Qiren was shaken. "He's trying to project his own aspiration on his imaginary friend."

Mrs Lan, who was told by her youngest son only this evening that she was almost as pretty as XianXian, looked slightly miffed. "I just hoped he'd at least be a teenager before he got a boyfriend, imaginary or not..."

They got interrupted by a jubilant Xichen who had wondered in with the cordless phone in his hand. "Mother, Da-ge and A-Sang are going to the beach this weekend. Can we go as well, please?"

Lan Qiren nodded, " We could all use some fresh air."

Xichen removed his palm from the receiver and started urgently speaking into it.

Lan Zhan took the news surprisingly well. Instead of his usual silent tantrum at the prospect of spending time with A-Sang and other children, he nodded sagely saying, "XianXian likes the beach too," before going back to his drawing of another red and black blob.

Lan Xichen was able to spot Nie MingJue and HuaiSang in the car park before their car came to a full rest. He ran towards the boys while they started waving at him. Lan Qiren followed him because leaving a pair of 10 years old in charge of a 5 years old in a beach is just asking for trouble no matter what Lao Nie said about self-reliance.

Mrs Lan yelled at them, " We will see you guys at our regular spot."

Except their regular spot was taken. A bronzed man carrying a baby in a sling was spreading his supplies on a purple beach towel. A girl slightly younger than Xichen frowned in concentration as she dug at the sund with her toy shovel. The man raised his head and smiled at Mrs Lan, showing a crooked canine. She smiled back in response and then started to spread her own beach towel. Lan Zhan solemnly put down his own baby bucket and started helping.

"Nice day, isn't it? I was worried it might get cloudy."

The baby squirmed in its sling and made a dissatisfied mewl. Lan Zhan scrunched his nose before moving to stand closer to his mother. Mrs Lan put her arm around his shoulder, " This is A-Zhan."

"Hello, A-Zhan. This is A-Li, and A-Cheng." The man pointed at his kids. "My wife has taken our nephew for ice-cream."

Mrs Lan opened her mouth, probably to continue with the pleasantries, but she was shocked into silence. Lan Zhan suddenly yelped out a short cry before breaking into a run. Before an aghast Mrs Lan could gather herself to give chase, Lan Zhan was met by a boy his size wearing red and black swimming trunks. The two boys were apprehended by a woman who herded them back towards Mrs Lan.

"A-Zhan, why did you run like that?"

"A-Ying, that's dangerous. Don't run..."

Both sets of parents started at the same time. But they got interrupted by A-Zhan, who proudly declared, "This is XianXian."

Mrs Lan continued to gape. The woman was the first to recover, "Oh my, you must be A-Ying's A-Zhan. He has been talking about you for weeks now."

Lsn Zhan nodded. The woman turned to Mrs Lan, " We don't know how to thank your little boy. You see, poor A-Ying had to move in with us because his parents are on a research trip. We were so worried he'd have a bad time getting along with his new classmates. But, it seems like A-Zhan here was a perfect angel."

Mrs Lan weakly smiled. " Yes, A-Zhan kept talking about his new friend, too. But why does he call him XianXian? "

The man extended a hand to ruffle the boy's already messy hair, "His courtesy name is Wei Wuxian. A-Ying is more of a nickname."

The boy jerked his head away but didn't release his hold on Lan Zhan's hands. The boys started to talk earnestly. Or more like Wei Ying talked while Lan Zhan seemed to absorb every word with his entire being. A-Ying's aunt offered to go get more ice cream to replace the ones she had dropped. Mrs Lan spotted her brother-in-law, leading the small team of children towards them. She relaxed her tense muscles and laid down on the towel; then jerked back up because of Lan Zhan's solemn declaration to the group, " XianXian and I are getting married."

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uselesslycleverhuaisang · 1 year

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Qinghenghjun : I'll marry her

Lan Qiren : but-but she's a murderer

Qingheng-jun : She looks organized

Lan qiren : huh?!

Hanguang-jun : I'll marry him

Lan Qiren : but-but he's a murderer

Hanguangjun : he smiles.

Lan Qiren : huh?!

Lan Xichen : I love him

Lan Qiren : but-but he's a murderer

Lan Xichen : he's short.

Lan Qiren : huh?!

Lan Qiren : I'll stay single thanks.

#grandmaster of demonic arts #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #mdzs au #mdzs lan wangji #mdzs nie huaisang #nie huaisang #nie mingjue #incorrect untamed quotes #mdzs wei wuxian #mo dao su zhi #lan qiren #lan wangji #mdzs lan xichen #lan xichen #qingheng jun #hanguang jun #mdzs jin guangyao #madam lan

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robininthelabyrinth · 1 year

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A prompt: I'm still in love with Second madam nie. Anything from her POV, maybe including her favourite person, nie mingjue?

ao3

"Send Huaisang to my office. Immediately."

Nie Mingjue’s order went out, and no sooner out than fulfilled, even if Nie Huaisang did show up looking disgruntled and a little disheveled, as if someone strong had hoisted him up over his protests, thrown him over their shoulder like a sack of potatoes, and whisked him away when he'd much rather be in his room reading or in a shop buying something. This was precisely what had happened, so Nie Huaisang felt entirely justified, even if his brother frowned ominously at his not-befitting-an-heir-of-a-Great-Sect appearance.

Still, his brother refrained from scolding (for once) and merely said, "Close the door."

Nie Huaisang did, his interest reluctantly piqued.

"Something political that I'm not supposed to know about?" he asked. "Or...?"

"Or," Nie Mingjue confirmed, and produced a letter. "Your mother wrote to you."

Nie Huaisang couldn't stop himself from wrinkling his nose.

Nie Mingjue noticed. "What's the matter? You don't want to hear from Second Mother?"

Actually, no.

Neither Nie Huaisang nor his mother had ever managed to properly explain to the bull-headed Nie Mingjue that certain types of people simply couldn't abide sharing space with another of their own kind - yes, even their own children, yes, even from a young age - and as a result he worked tirelessly to maintain his little brother's relationship with his long-absent, presumed-dead-by-most-people mother over both their protests. His persistence and earnest insistence that familial relationships were important was a little cute, actually, but it did mean that it was awfully hard to skive off without actually engaging.

Of course, the same was true on his mother's side. Nie Huaisang had to suppress a snigger at the thought of his brother hunting down and officiously scolding a fox in some forest somewhere with instructions to write more often.

"Are you going to read it?" Nie Mingjue prompted, and the expression on his face suggested that the answer to the question was required to be 'yes' and also 'right now, in this room, while being watched’. Nie Mingjue would never be so rude as to actually interfere with or eavesdrop on Nie Huaisang's correspondence, but previous experience had already shown him that listening to Nie Huaisang's claims of wanting to read it later or in private would only result in the letter not being read at all, whether due to negligence or it "accidentally" being destroyed in a fire or somesuch.

Damn Nie Huaisang's former self for having used up all the good excuses too early!

"Oh, all right," Nie Huaisang grumbled, and settled himself down to read. At least he could be fairly sure that the content would be about a subject of his liking - after all, the only thing Nie Huaisang had in common with his mother, other than a shared bloodline, was a fondness for his older brother.

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Hey, pigface -

(Rude as always, Mother.)

I would say that I hope you're doing well, but I don't actually care (it's mutual!) and I'm sure that if there was anything wrong with you, my darling pork bun would have already conveyed it to me. (Almost certainly true.) He'd be ever so distressed about it, the poor tasty little lamb, so you'd better keep yourself in one piece for his sake, you hear me? (Like Nie Huaisang was going to get anywhere near danger anyway. She wasn't wrong about how much Nie Mingjue would worry, though, so Nie Huaisang reluctantly agreed with the sentiment - he'd be able to point to that when his brother ever so politely inquired as to what his mother had written. See, a positive interaction! They were capable of it! Mostly!)

As for your delicious older brother...(She'd better not say anything about Nie Huaisang stopping him from getting into danger, because that was impossible; Nie Mingjue and danger were practically best friends) well, I will only say, if he dies, you are to avenge him.

(Obviously.)

Now, I'm equally certain that you don't give one fig for my own state of health (completely correct), so I won't bore you with that. I will say that your cousin in Dongying is doing very well (that was good, Nie Huaisang had liked him, though of course he'd liked the fact that the man lived all the way away in Dongying even better) and his musically inclined partner sends you in particular his regards. (He'd probably mispronounced it.) I'll spare you how he mangled it (called it!) and tell you instead that he is still proficient in that song you taught him (aww, how cute). I enclose some little tricks that you might find useful (please no) assuming you ever endeavor to be useful (never!)

Now, onto the most important subject (about time) - how is my tender little zongzi doing? (What a stupid question, she literally saw da-ge when she gave him this message.) He seemed fine in person, but you know he doesn't want to burden people with his troubles (sad, but true) and he is especially cautious when there's a chance that the person in question wants to help out (that's because certain people thought the only way to help any situation involved murder and/or eating people). I expect at least four pages of his day-to-day activities (psst, like Nie Huaisang was going to strain himself to do something like that) in exchange of which I will provide a brand new illustrated set of your preferred brand of picture book (...damn her for knowing his weaknesses).

Stay alive and in your own territory (same to you, Mother), and best wishes to my best little savory dumpling in the world, may he be ever delicious and ready to eat.

(Stop being weird, Mother.)

(Also, he wasn’t hers, he was Nie Huaisang’s.)

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"No signature, as always," Nie Huaisang observed, and Nie Mingjue snorted.

"Like anyone could mimic how your mother talks."

Nie Huaisang thought about it, then shrugged in agreement.

"How is she doing?"

Nie Huaisang gave his brother an incredulous look, which (rightfully) made the older man flush.

"I have no idea how to tell," he defended himself. "I just want to know that she's not facing any difficulties, that's all. She'd never admit it if she was."

Only da-ge, Nie Huaisang thought fondly, and also No wonder she likes him so much.

It was, he had to admit, the one area in which his mother had impeccable taste that completely accorded with his own.

His da-ge was simply, unquestionably, the best.

#mdzs #my fic #my fics #nie huaisang #nie mingjue #second madame nie #just a silly thing

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whatwhywhowherewhen · 10 months

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In a world in which SangCheng is canon and events have aligned to leave them married, Jiang Wanyin would think he's the Madame Yu of the relationship when he'd really be the unwitting Jiang Fengmian. And I think that's beautiful

#sangcheng #jiang wanyin #nie huaisang #madame yu #jiang fengmian #my posts

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poorlittleyaoyao · 8 months

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Meng Shi 🤝 Yu Ziyuan 🤝 Cangse Sanren

actually having full names as moms

#RIP to Madames Jin Qin Nie 1.0 Nie 2.0 Wen (like WRH’s wife) Wen (like WQ and WN’s mom) Wen (like WQ and WN’s grandma) Mo and Lan

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fistfuloflightning · 5 months

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Your sister told me the most interesting story about Sect Leader Yao just now… Is it truth? You know very well A-Sang has a way of twisting words for her own entertainment. It will be shortly~

Nie-zongzhu and Nie-furen, seconds before all hell breaks loose, courtesy of Nie Huaisang.

#mdzs #the untamed #mingxian #nie mingjue #wei wuxian #female wei wuxian #female nie huaisang #mentioned #that au where nmj falls in love with his little sister’s bestie #and yzy does everything in her power to ensure the match goes through so she can FINALLY get rid of wei ying #the one (1) time madam yu and wwx are on the same page lol #bby nie is going to be the worst of both his parents (affectionate)#fic ideas #mdzs art #mdzs au #my art

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b0dwr1ter · 7 months

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#nie huaisang #jin guangyao #lan xichen #su she #wen ning #jin zixuan #wei wuxian #lan wangji #nie mingjue #wen ruohan #xue yang #wen zhuliu #yu ziyuan #madam jin #lan qiren #jin guangshan #jiang fengmian #mdzs polls #Jiang cheng

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annalacerda17 · 2 years

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How reputation works in MDZS is quite representative of the novel's themes.

Reputation in MDZS, much like in real life, does not accurately represent the truth about a person, but rather it represents how they are perceived. And how they are perceived in cultivation society has a lot more to do with status and power than what their personality is like or what they actually did. More importantly, it has to do with how well they adhere to societal expectations (a lot of which are based on status).

That's why people like YZY, whose attitude was terrible and who never did anything impressive in the novel (at any point that we're told) had a reputation as being impressive and powerful, and yet she liked to whip little boys and lost the only battle we saw her fight. She couldn't even stop WLJ of all people from sending off the signal to initiate the invasion of Lotus Pier - and we're explicitly told that WLJ was so weak she couldn't even wield a cultivation sword and had to make do with a branding iron. WLJ was absolutely not a fighter. YZY was also an incompetent leader, who failed to prepare for an attack everyone knew was coming - refused to believe the Jiang sect would be attacked despite what had happened to the Lan clan just because of her delusions of superiority born out of her classist world view - and once the Wens did arrive at her door, she handled the situation in the worst way possible by escalating it and finally choosing to sacrifice the sect for the sake of her own personal pride, again, born out of classism. To me, this means that we're supposed to notice that YZY's reputation is empty, and it actually comes from her being born with a hight status.

We also have JZXun, who we all know was an imbecile and cruel, arrogant and mean person, whose deeds can all be summarized as abusing and preying of the weak while overestimating himself. He was the one who ambushed WWX with 300 archers by his side, and yet he was seen as a victim by society as the victim, and defended as such, and his flaws were consistently ingnored.

Then we have JC, who built up his reputation by slaughtering the Wens in the burial mounds, people he himself had identified as the weak, the old the women and children. He then went on to spend the next 13 years kidnapping, torturing a d killing people he suspected of being demonic cultivator, and didn't let go even when proven wrong. I won't bring up the life debt he owed the Wen siblings and the golden core he owed WWX because society at large didn't know about those. The point here is that even with all that despite not being liked by people who actually met him, being known to have a bad temper, to not protect his own people unless it either brought him glory or somebody died first, and being known to act like a tyrant, at the time of WWX's resurrection into MXY's body JC was known as a war hero. That's because he was a sect leader. Had JC not had his status, he wouldn't have had anything else either.

Then we have WWX who was always righteous. When he was fighting for the sects in the SSC, everyone approved of him, when the war ended and he didn't act submissive, they feared and hated him. During the Phoenix Mountain Hunt, WWX took down one third of the prey and NMJ took down another another third, and yet, everyone was criticizing WWX, accusing him of breaking the (inexistent) rules and disapproving of him for acting above his status. On the other hand, nobody thought there was anything wrong with NMJ doing the very same thing WWX did. In fact, the thing the cultivation society hated the most about WWX wasn't his cultivation, evidenced by the fact that nobody cared that the Jin sect had XY experiment with demonic cultivation until XY went and murdered a whole clan (and even then, only NMJ did anything about it and it was only the murder he seemed to have a problem with), and nobody had any qualms about using WWX's knowledge and inventions. In fact, what the cultivation society hated the most about WWX was that he dared to act above his status. Just like this, WWX who was a truly good man had a much worse reputation than all those men mentioned above, all of whom were incomparably worse people than he.

We see a few cases like LWJ's, whose reputation was quite accurate and whose exalted deeds were true. Crucially, LWJ was a member of the Lan clan, the son of a sect leader and then the brother of one. He was famous for going where the chaos was, and helping anyone regardless of their identity. The pinacle of what a cultivator should be like, a truly righteous man. And yet, the moment he sided with WWX, the man they had previously slandered to death, cultivation society was ready to turn against him. It was only by the intervention of NHS that LWJ and WWX even got the chance to prove their innocence and expose the true culprits. Crucially, NHS was a sect leader who had real power (unlike LWJ who was the brother of a sect leader and therefore had high status bit little power).

NHS himself had a high status but a reputation as an incompetent and useless brat. However, NHS's case is different from WWX's because NHS had such a reputation intentionally, and used it as means to achieve his goals.

Anyway, I'm just ranting here because I got tired of seeing JC and YZY stans using their reputation of all things to claim that they were "badass" or somehow good or heroic when it doesn't match the actuality of their actions and capabilities in the novel.

#mdzs #wei wuxian #lan wangji #yu x #madam yu #yu ziyuan #jiang cheng #jin zixun #nie huaisang

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sonik-kun · 1 year

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Nie Huaisang sleeping over at the Jiang household

#nie huaisang #jiang family shenanigans #jiang cheng #wei wuxian #jiang yanli #madame yu #jiang fengmian #the jiangs are dysfunctional and we love that for them #this could also be wwx too lmao #mo dao zu shi #mxtx mdzs

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sweets-yandere-lover · 2 months

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