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westfall-castle · 1 year

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hey! Aelin stan here, I just wanted to say that i've seen your anti Aelin posts and you make really good points! You're completely correct in pointing out that Aelin should in no way have all the "life experience" SJM throws at her or be able to play the queen card all the time. In my opinion, the root issue is bad writing and SJM's apparent inability to write MCs who aren't some glorified, deified "perfect" being who checks all the boxes ever imagined.

I honestly wish that we saw more of Aelin making her mistakes and having to deal with the consequences. Like yeah, we sort of do, but not in any real way, and I think that's one of the things we as readers in general but also as Aelin stans tend to gloss over. She was rash and impetuous and never seemed to suffer the consequences, and everyone around her backed her up even when they "were mad that she didn't tell anyone her plans." Again, i think a decent part of this is bad writing and a too-heavy relance on the fantasy as opposed to making characters believable, but Aelin was the main main character, she deserved more than being exalted to god status.

thank you for being a voice of critique :) feel free to respond however you think this giant rambling braindump deserves :)

Hi Aelin Stan! I hope you’re doing awesome.

First of all I’m so sorry for taking centuries in replying to this 😭 Thank you very much for taking the time to drop by and leave your question.

Thank you so much for reading my posts! I wouldn’t consider myself fully anti-Aelin, but I include the tag so people can navigate through the content easier and well, because that post, as you remember, wasn’t precisely hyping her up hahah 😅. I do, however, see she has lots of positive traits to her and actually like her, she has a special place in my reader heart.

I agree with you completely! It was most likely because lots of things were going on throughout the series. First, it heavily relied on fantasy, as you say (which is not bad and it’s part of why I loved it) but soon SJM was tasked with

-Generating lore for this fantasy world

-Explain fantastic elements as more characters were added (For example: Introduce Manon= Explain the whole dynamics about witches. Introduce Rowan= Explain the whole dynamics about fae and demi-fae)

- Weaving the characters and making them interact so we had a story

-Developing each character’s arc

- Bringing the story forward making it make sense

-Write romance for all these characters ending with more than 6 pairings

SO IT WAS A LOT GOING ON! And I do admire as a reader the amount of work this represented and how she brought it forward. in the end, the series counts with 8 books and it still left us wanting for more!

At the same time, maybe this was the reason there wasn’t enough space for development, introspection, accountability for Aelin. There simply was no space for this to happen! If Aelin suffered the consequences, as you very smartly mention, it would have required to edit the text and narrow certain elements to have space, or add 2 more books to the series and make it 10 (which I’m personally not opposed to hahah, but we know how editorial publications work and it’s already hard as it is to publish 8 books in a row!)

Perhaps the work got so big no amount of words did it justice. Maybe we wouldn’t have gotten Elide or Aedion. Who knows how it would’ve gone.

Many readers mention in their critiques of TOG the space management (aka: reading and editing to cut out irrelevant parts and make reading more efficient and straightforward) What I can say about it is: I agree, however, SJM is the writer. We must respect as readers that maybe these parts in her mind were specifically relevant to her and helped her build this big fantasy world in her head. Many parts could be left out to make it “neater” but it’s easy to critique when you’re not the one who’s writing.

Throughout the 8 books, I felt SJM’s necessity to transmit. She wanted to take us into the narrative, clarify all of the reader’s questions and she did a commendable job in doing so. However, she did drown in words in some parts. Sometimes you were reading and the narrator was talking and talking and you couldn’t help but think: ???? Why is this relevant? Hahaha

Maybe these parts could be used for the character development we were seeking at the expense of cutting out certain details from the books.

Well, you have no idea how much I love engaging in these types of conversation so I really have to thank you 🥹❤️ I send you a hug wherever you are and you’re not rambling! It makes so much sense! I can see you’re an avid reader 💕

Lots of love and if you ever want to discuss books again I’m here! Promise to take much less in replying.

#throne of glass #tog #aelin galathynius ashryver #crown of midnight #heir of fire #queen of shadows #empire of storms #tower of dawn #kingdom of ash #rowan whitethorn #dorian havilliard #sjm books #sjm #celaena sardothien #aelin ashryver #aelin of the wildfire #anti aelin #pro aelin #just Aelin talk in general hehe

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sydneymack · 2 months

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Aelin and Rowan - Throne of Glass

Artist: @romannaboch

#rowaelin #rowan whitethorn #aelin ashryver whitethorn galathynius #tog #throne of glass #sjmaas

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fiercehildr · 4 months

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This awesome commission of Cassian and Aelin randomly meeting through a portal was done for me by the amazing @ritzeldraws for my 7k commission! With hofas getting closer, what if….? 😂

Please no repost, ty.

#acotar #sjm #tog #cassian #aelin galathynius #aelin ashryver galathynius #throne of glass #crossover #commission

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rainingriversofyou · 5 days

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Starborn, Fireheart & Lady Death - CC, TOG & ACOTAR

Artist: renata_watsonn

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throughstarlitfields · 5 months

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𝘊𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘢𝘮…

𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐠𝐨𝐝𝐬 𝐝𝐚𝐦𝐧 𝐧𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐠𝐨𝐰𝐧.

🎨: @spearthymint

Commissioned by me

𝑷𝑳𝑬𝑨𝑺𝑬 𝑫𝑶 𝑵𝑶𝑻 𝑹𝑬𝑷𝑶𝑺𝑻. 𝑶𝑵𝑳𝒀 𝑺𝑯𝑨𝑹𝑬 𝑾𝑰𝑻𝑯 𝑷𝑹𝑶𝑷𝑬𝑹 𝑪𝑹𝑬𝑫𝑰𝑻 𝑮𝑰𝑽𝑬𝑵.

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shadowdaddies · 16 days

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Fireheart

by renata_watsonn on Instagram

#throne of glass #aelin fireheart #aelin galathynius #throne of glass fanart #aelin throne of glass #throne of glass art #aelin tog #aelin fanart #aelin ashryver galathynius #queen Aelin #bookish art #tog #tog series

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serien-grl-22 · 7 months

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There are two kinds of male fae love interests:

300+ years older than the girl, powerful, dark-haired, cold

Cardan

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i-only-see-daylight · 1 month

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Aelin: If I died-

Rowan, sharpening his knives: Death will not get you out of this relationship.

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oblivionsdream · 8 months

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A new puzzle collaboration with Reverie Puzzles this time featuring the characters from Throne of Glass. It was such a delight to work with them again and I’m super proud of how this turned out. I’m definitely biased but my favorite part is probably Abraxos because he is just the best boy. 😌

#throne of glass #sarah j maas #dorian havilliard #manon blackbeak #abraxos #aelin ashryver galathynius #celaena sardothien #rowan whitethorn #chaol westfall #yrene towers #lorcan salvaterre #elide lochan #aedion ashryver #lysandra #book art

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highladyofterrasen7 · 2 months

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Dorian: apparently the only people you should invite to your wedding are ones who invited you to theirs

Aelin:

Chaol:

Dorian: well guess who isn’t coming to my wedding

#he just wants to be a flower girl #sarah j maas #throne of glass #dorian havilliard #chaol westfall #aelin galathynius #aelin ashryver galathynius #manon blackbeak #manorian #rowan whitethorn #rowaelin #yrene towers #chaorene #dorian x chaol #chaorian #dorian x celaena

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mellendraws · 9 months

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“To whatever end.”

#mine #fanart #bookish art #artists on tumblr #throne of glass #aelin x rowan #rowaelin #aelin ashryver galathynius #aelin galathynius #rowan whitethorn

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westfall-castle · 2 years

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Aelin was right in that scene though. She should’ve killed Dorian, who is Chaol to say anything? she is a queen and she has more power, why doesn’t he obey her orders? Chaol is just a human captain without magic

Noooooooooooo lol. I disagree completely. It’s the first time I hear someone wanting Dorian to be unalived.

First, imagine Aelin had killed Dorian and then they discovered later on that Valg were parasites and he could’ve been cured. Second, if she had killed Dorian, Chaol wouldn’t have gone to the Southern Continent and he would not have met Yrene and long story short they would’ve lost the whole damn war. Also, Aelin would’ve had to forge the lock by herself and also would’ve died.

About everything else, Aelin is a queen but is not Chaol’s queen. Sorry to be rough but his loyalty is sworn to Dorian, that’s why he doesn’t “obey her orders” or take lightly that she wants to kill him. She may be powerful but even then, he’s loyal to Dorian. Chaol is clinging to every hope of saving Dorian and feels very threatened when he sees Aelin’s intentions of killing him (despite they were good and seemed merciful in the moment, ik ik)

Lastly, indeed, Chaol is a human with no magic and he’s doing everything he can to save Dorian, that’s why he refuses to liberate magic and even says “I’m not doing it when you’re so unpredictable”. I mean, come on, cut him some slack, it was his only card and he didn’t read Heir of Fire like us or knew what was going on in Aelin’s head. She literally JUST SAID that she was gonna kill him the line before lol 🤣.

#chaol westfall #throne of glass #tog #dorian havilliard #chaol westfall daily #aelin galathynius ashryver #chaol westfall protection squad

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sydneymack · 5 months

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