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wildflowerwoodsworld · 4 months
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So, for those of you who don't know, Charlotte is my (current) favourite character. She's been one of my favourites since I started the series, but now she's in the top spot. Which means it's her turn to get put through torment in fic. Hey, that's just the price you pay for being the favourite.
Anyway, as those of you who are familiar with my writing probably know, I like pulling characters apart and figuring out what makes them tick so I can depict them falling apart in a more believeable way. For some characters it's fairly easy to figure out what the core of their motivation is (Asta wants to be acknowledged as worth something even though he lacks magic) others it's far harder (I still don't know what the fuck motivates Yami). I thought Charlotte would be a tricky one, until I was rereading the manga and came across this panel. (specifically the middle one)
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(official VIZ media translation; volume 12, chapter 104, page 72)
She's just been cursed. We don't exactly how old she is in this scene (I tend to put her at twelve, for a couple of reasons, but that doesn't change the fact that canon hasn't actually given us an answer), or even why she's been cursed, but the fact remains that she has just been cursed. And yet she is the one reassuring her parents. She is telling them not to worry. She's the one telling them that she'll fix this. And she's just a kid! She is canonically just a kid!
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(Official VIZ media translation, volume 18, chapter 169, page 130)
This is the start of Charlotte shouldering every burden she comes across. She has to do everything herself and if she can't she's not good enough (I know it's anime-only but her "I should be executed" line over being possessed against her will raises a lot of red flags for me). She also holds everyone else to these impossible standards, rejecting every suitor she meets immediately. If they can't keep up, they aren't good enough, and nobody can keep up. She's pushing herself harder and harder and harder because if she doesn't, if she doesn't give everything she has to break this curse then she definitely won't, and the curse activating its going to be her fault for not trying hard enough. She canonically calls herself pathetic and apologises when it inevitably activates. She sees this as a personal failing.
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(official VIZ media translation, volume 12, chapter 104, pages 73 & 74)
Never mind the fact that she is, at most, twelve years old when cursed. Which means that she's lived a minimum of six years with it hanging over her head. Sure, she keeps saying she's going to break it, but there has to be a part of her who is convinced that, when she turns eighteen, she's basically going to die.
On top of that, the fact that she's cursed is caonically common knowledge. We get all the townspeople outside screaming about it. This implies that a lot of people know she's cursed. Know she's different. And, well, you're here on Tumblr. I'm sure you know what happens to people who are different. They get socially isolated. That would explain her trouble talking to people about her feelings. And her issues with expressing herself.
So, we've got this girl, who is no more than twelve, is suddenly being shunned by all her peers for something she can't control, has decided to shoulder the entire burden of this curse (everyone else we see talking about it in the flashback says "curse on House Roselei" or something to that effect, Charlotte says "my curse"), keeps pushing herself to try and do what, as far as we can tell from canon, is impossible, and is convinced that if she can't pull off the impossible she's going to basically die on her eigthteenth birthday.
Oh, and all of this is happening around the age she's supposed to be figuring herself out.
The fact that she is a fully functioning adult is a goddamn miracle.
Looping back to my original point though, I think that, at the core of her character, Charlotte is someone who wants to believe that she's worth saving. And not because of her power, or her family name, or her looks. She's desperate for someone to look and see her and see someone worth saving. But she's bad at expressing herself and also scared that if she lets anyone in close they're just going to let her down like everyone else she thought would save her when she was cursed did, so she snaps and she snarls and she drives people away because if people are going to leave anyway (because of the curse) then it's easier to drive them off first, because at least that way she can pretend it's what she wanted rather than being abandoned again.
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peonights · 16 days
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Shadow Magic vs Dark Magic
I find it fascinating that Black Clover makes a difference in its magic system between shadows and darkness.
Most darkness we see comes from shadows, that's how places get lightless most often—but they are just one way. For example, nighttime brings darkness too, but is different as it's the dark outer space. Darkness is the absence of light. Shadows are one way that light can go absent.
So, unlike other fantasy media I've seen (for me, notably Shadow and Bone), Black Clover acknowledges that there is a difference. Shadow and Dark are two different magic attributes.
And that's interesting because the one Shadow Magic user we meet—Nacht—is the vice captain and ex-best friend of a Dark Magic user, Yami. Using magic to highlight character foils is nothing new, as a fantasy reader it’s everywhere.
However, unless I live under a rock, I haven’t seen two prominent foils to each other ever be shadow and darkness before! They’re always conflated and pitted against light.
This time though, we have a pair, Yami and Nacht, who started out the same—two best friends against the world with their similar magic attributes.
Then Yami joined the Magic Knights and befriended the Light Magic user Morgen. The two became a duo of light and darkness, as we normally see in media. Adhering to media’s norms makes sense for the lawful Morgen and the expectations of the Magic Knights.
Meanwhile the rebellious Nacht distanced himself from them both. This is worsened after Morgen’s death and Nacht’s switch to rationality. Still, in the end, shadow and darkness are two different things—and so are Nacht and Yami.
At last, the two mend their relationship and we go back to the beginning.
Here, it’s a zigzag between the similarity and difference in Shadow and Dark Magic, which highlights the zigzag in Nacht and Yami’s bond over the years.
TLDR: I love BC’s use of an unconventional yet similar pair of magics to highlight the complicated dynamic between Nacht and Yami. Can’t you tell who my favorite vice captain is?
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thelazuliwitch · 4 days
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Black Clover timeline Headcanon
(but gives numbers for happy brain)
Okay! Gonna put my timeline math into a post! Feel free to alter!
So Under the presumption that the average Wizard King term is 10 years, and a Wizard King can have multiple terms. And there has been 28 in the past 500 years. 
Lemiel was the first and he was one for a day
Princia was the 11th (died at 22)
Jester the 16th  (died at 23)
Edward the 20th (died at 66)
Conrad the 27th (stripped of power at 35)
Julius the 28th (stops being Wizard king at 44 presumably, but it’s hard to say)
Black Bulls and Golden Dawn are created when Yami is 22 and William is 20, to which Julius is Wizard King (age 37) at this point. 6 years ago. And we know he became WK 10 years ago from Spade Arc (was he 33 when he became WK?) Damn. Wait… Rill is the youngest ever captain at 19.  And Rill even states he isn’t anymore when Yuno becomes a Grand Master. 
So who was Captain prior to Rill? 
And that means Julius had to become a Captain at at least 20 years old.
Yami meets Julius as a captain at 15 (14 years ago)
The fight with Conrad had Nozell, Yami, Kaiser, Merelona, Feugolean 
Mathamatically Yami should be 19 (Charlotte just joined the magic Knights by this point)
Probably right after Morgen’s death as he isn’t in the fight
Say Julius is 33 here, Julius could have been 20 when meeting Yami which fits in the timeline better.
So let’s say vaguely 10 years is a single term, if each Wizard King stuck to that then there would have been 50 Wizard Kings instead, but clearly that isn’t the case. Unless the average Wizard King goes at it for about 2 or more terms. A WK isn’t limited to a set amount of terms, but a decade is 1 term. If the average is 2 terms per WK, that is 25 Wizard Kings, for a perfect 20 years divided, but we know Lumeire, Princia, Jester, Edward, and Conrad all had short terms.  All of these are assumptions, so head canon territory
Lumiere (Age of WK, year 1)
? WK 2 for ten years (the start of a single ‘term’ (year 11)
? WK 3 eighteen years (dies as WK) (year 29)
? WK 4  seven years (Year 35)
?  WK 5 for 23 years (died in third term) (Year 58)
? WK 6 for nineteen years (year 67)
? WK 7 for for twenty years (year 87)
?  Wk 8 had a term for four years, WK for forty years, retires to the next WK who wins in the tournament ( Year 127)
? WK 9 for 22 years ( year 149)
? Wk 10 for 27 years  (year 176)
Princia (based on age of death 2 years) (year 178)
? WK 12 for 36 years (year 214)
? Terms: 33 years (year 247)
? Wk for 35 years (282 EWK)
3 Wk terms for 24 years  (303 EWK)
Jester (Three years based on age of death) (306 EWK)
Terms: 40 years (346 Ewk)
term: 32 (378 Ewk)
? Wk for 16 years (394 EWK)
Edward (harder to say, he could have become the WK at 46 and had a twenty year term, but I don’t think he was. He was also a priest, which takes 5 years, and you have to be 25 years old. So say he became a priest at 30 years old, orphanage he cared for was burned down at 40 years of age, he became a WK, average time to rise for someone talented enough to be the WK is probably around 3-5 years to be a Captain, and then after that who knows. So became WK at maybe 46-47. Died twenty years later at 66, for his beliefs, but lived a fairly long term as WK (4th  century) (414 Ewk)
Term: 15 years (429 EWK)
Term: 8 years (437 EWK)
Term: 20 years (457 EWK)
Term: 7 years (464 EWK)
Term: 15 years (479 EWK)
Term: term 13 years (492 EWk)
Conrad (term: 8 years) (500 EWK)
Was a captain, so had to be at least 20
revoked of power at 35
It seems he was WK for a good while, probably at least 5 years, so giving him a 8 year term
Julius (11 years)  (511 EWK on Judgment day) ----- SO! My guess is that Grimoire ceremonies are in spring as we know, probably the equinox, because celestial event and all that. So makes sense that when we know that magic knight exam is 6 months later on the Autumn equinox! Which September 22nd! Which is 12 days until Asta turns 16!
So Day 2: Mission with Magna and Noelle about boar hunting which spirals out of control
Day 3: Dungeon with Luck and Noelle
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Day: 4,5,6,7,8,9, and 10  Asta was asleep for a whole 7 days, and then the magic knight meeting and the attack on Capital…. 
Day 11: Asta goes out on the mixer, saying he is 15 (and it fits because it technically is October 3rd here).
Day 12: Asta’s birthday, hanging out with Rebecca, her siblings, and also Marie. (Ironic since it's supposed to be her birthday, but Asta literally calls himself 15 the day before)... So Asta is 16 from here on, and we know that he is part of the Black Bulls for a whole year before training begins! So training begins right before he turns 17. So a timeline!
January 508 EWK
Alecdora turns 23
Gordan turns 25
February 508 EWK
Fragil turns 19
Henry turns 25
Finral turns 21
Grey turns 24
Solid turns 17
March 508 EWK
Show begins!!!
Asta and Yuno get grimoire
Rill turns 19
Recca turns 13
Dorothy turns 27
Theresa turns 64 (yeah... her birthday is gonna get confusing, I don't know what to do with her birthday ngl)
April 508 EWK
Magna turns 18
Nash turns 10
Klaus turns 18
Hamon turns 19 (this both shocks and saddens me) 
Sekke turns 16
Nacht turns 28
Kirsch turns 20
May 508 EWK
Sol turns 17
Vanessa turns 24
Late May is the dinner with Charlotte or something 
Siren turns 22 : ’(
Ichika turned 21
June 508 EWK
Charmy turns 19
Jack turns 28
Nero’s human form turns 17, but she is turning 517
Gauche turnes 19
July 508 EWK
Mereoleona turns 31
August 508 EWK
Feugoleon turns 30
Mimosa turns 15 (how does she have a grimoire???)
Altering it to her turning 16, because I don’t think grimoires can be collected early royalty or not
Leo turns 16 ( not 15 for the same reason as Mimosa)
September  508 EWK
Yami turned 28 (9/17/480)
Charlotte turns 27 (9/18/481)
Langris turns 20 
Asta  joins Black Bulls (9/22/492)
Yuno joins Golden Dawn
En turns 24
October 508 EWK
Asta being Fifteen during Mixer adds up as long as his birthday is the day after and turns 16
Yuno turns 16
Leibe turns 16 trapped inside Grimoire still so no cake (unless Charmy put’s some in Asta’s grimoire for no reason)
Luck turns 19 shortly after???? This works if the reason he said he was 19 in anime  (if he did) was only because he was literally a few days a way.
Marie kindapping
Nebre turns 24
Julius tuns 42
Kaiser turns 49
November 508 EWK
Noelle turns 16
Sea Temple
Everyone searching ways to cure Asta
December 508 EWK
Witch Forest
Zora turned 25
William turns 26
Marie turns 10… and minor plot hole (or headcanon hole, who knows??) !!! Her birthday was the episode she was kidnapped and ironically plot wise it lands on Asta’s birthday actually. I could spin this that Gauche lied to see her??? BC how else would that make sense?
Nozel turns 29
January 509 EWK
Alecdora turns 24
Gordan turns 26
February 509 EWK
Star Festival (tournament is announced)
Training
Fragil turns 20
Henry turns 26
Finral turns 22
Grey turns 25
Solid turns 18
March 509 EWK
The Tournment
Rill turns 20
Royal Knights Unite! 
Elf Madness
Recca turns 14
Julius is in body of a 13 year old
Dorothy turns 28 (she is revealed to be 27 during elf arc, and birthday is after, so she is now 28)!
Theresa turns 65 (yeah... this confuses me too, I don't know what to do with her birthday ngl)
April 509 EWK
Asta’s trial
Devil/curse  research begins! 
Magna turns 19
Nash turns 11
Klaus turns 19
Hamon turns 20 (this both shocks and saddens me) 
Sekke turns 17
Nacht turns 29
Kirsch turns 21
May 509 EWK
More devil research with little results 
Sol turns 18
Vanessa turns 25
Late May is the dinner with Charlotte or something 
Siren turns 23 : ’(
Ichika turned 22
June 509 EWK
Charmy turns 20
Jack turns 29
Nero’s human form turns 18, but she is turning 518
Gauche turnes 20
The Agrippa visit
Mimosa puts in application for Heart visit (It takes a month)
July 509 EWK
Mereoleona turns 32
Asta, Mimosa, Noelle, Nero, and Finral go to Heart
August 509 EWK
Feugoleon turns 31
Leo turns 17 (same reason as Mimosa)
Mimosa turns 17
September 509 EWK
Yami turns 29
Charlotte turns 28
Langris turns 21
Asta and Noelle have their little yearly reunion to the knights exam though (implied close to going to Heart)
Theresa's turns 65 1/2?
Filler arcs, but training as started
Charmy, Rill, Luck, Noelle, Finral, Leopold, Charlotte, Asta, Nero, Mimosa train in Heart with Lolopechka and the Spirit Guardians. 
En turns 25
October 509 EWK
Asta  turn 17
Yuno turns 17
Leibe turns 17
Luck turns 20
Nebre turns 25
Julius tuns 43/14
Kaiser turns 50
training
November 509 EWK
training
Noelle turns 17
December 509 EWK
Training
Zora turns 26
William turns 27
Marie turns 11
Nozel turns 30
January 510 EWK
Alecdora turns 25
Training
Gordon turns 27
February 510 EWK
movie!
Julius became Wizard King Ten years ago!
Either he is Wizard King longer because the tournament was postponed due to the drama of everything
Fragil turns 21
Henry turns 27
Finral turns 23
Gray turns 26
Solid turns 19
March 510 EWK
Spade Arc should start here actually (6 months of training ends)
Rill turns 21
Theresa turns 66
Dorothy turns 29
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phoenixnoxx · 6 months
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I Really Find It Sweet That YAMI Didn't Leave CHARLOTTE & Actually Waited For Her ♡
Even if Sol was there... having a soft spot for her, Yami couldn't leave drunk & vulnerable Charlotte. He may be dense, BUT Yami is really sweet when it comes to Charlotte.
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Scene 1: Ep 69 - they were the only captains who were absent at the stage.
Scene 2: Ep 71 - may I add, the two looked like a wife who is done with her husband's antics. They are so cute.
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When YamiChar happens... I'm sure that Julius would be their no. 1 fan. He was smiling (last photo) like he knew something would happen in the future. *\(^o^)/*
But this is what I think. And I just miss them so much.
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Let me just add the manga panels...
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sukehiroselei · 8 months
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random black clover thoughts, part 1/??
I was rereading the Star Festival chapter for a fic (lol) and I thought of something neat. I'm sure others have pointed this out as well, so it's not anything new.
The only reason that the Black Bulls scored second place was because they started the year off with negative stars. If they had started off with zero, they probably would have beaten the Golden Dawn.
I feel like it's symbolic of Asta's journey & rivalry with Yuno. The odds were always stacked against Asta. Even in Hage, Asta faced discrimination from his own family (*ahem* Nash; Father Orsi) because of his lack of mana/magic.
He somehow joins the ranks as a knight, but he gets into the squad with the worst reputation.
AND THEN, we find out that his ability is tied to the Underworld, where one of its leaders manipulated another to wreak havoc into the world. People are (justifiably) afraid of Asta's power, because its source (devils) tried to cause suffering for the people.
In spite of these setbacks, Asta's belief that his persistence will bring him to his goal + the respect he has for his squad propels him forward, all the way to second place.
Now you're thinking, "E, what does the ranking have to do with Asta's and Yuno's rivalry?"
While Asta is obviously frustrated about always falling behind Yuno, I think Yuno is bothered by it the most. Because he knows that if these roadblocks didn't exist for Asta (eg: Asta had magic, joined the GD, etc.), Asta would easily leave him behind. Yuno respects Asta heavily, because for someone to have so many handicaps and still get second place is super impressive. Just goes to show how tenacious Asta's real magic is!
ok rant over bye :3
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jaycrakhead · 7 months
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Gauche x Grey (Greyche analysis/Guide?) PART 2
(not me promoting my art as the cover again)
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HEEEYA here's part 2
So let's continue this massive-… I don't even know what to call this anymore, I feel like I'm just making a Greyche Guide for beginners KAKQKQOA If you are reading this, I hope you like it UEDUH I'm just having fun while rambling that's all DUEIDH
So, first things first, I went through the anime (from where part 1 left off) to catch some little moments on the time skip (before episode 150);
(Chapter 224/ Episode 128) Gauche and Grey are pretty much traumatized after the Agrippa Family experience. Asta in the anime says that what they ate got them like that, as in the manga they just died in their beds DIUEDUHDH Luck says they are stuck in bed akakqka Some meme that they are stuck in bed for that sus reason we all know about but yeah memes aside, they just are traumatized IUUDHHE
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And yes it's worth mentioning for the pics. Since they don't appear for a bit in the anime, that food really fucked them up for real kwkakaka I'm just kidding UEDIUHDHE
(Episode 134) I do know that this episode is filler but since Sister Theresa implied that Gauche asked Grey to transform him into a child, I just wanted to point out how the conversation must have been for her to turn him into a child wkakskd How did he even asked that? And imagine suddenly being asked to turn someone into a child- But truly like (This is just headcanon now) He gets turned, looks at the mirror "Ah just as I remember" And just leaves like a child, and Grey there just watching- UEDIDH
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(Episode 140) They are caught together by Sally and it's just dorky the whole scene. When Sally says that she will experiment on both of them, Grey replies with "Us together... embarassing"- But she would be embarassed with anyone I believe- Well, have Grey clinging without Gauche complaining (at this point is pretty much something natural to him). Also I love that that's just Gauche's signature pose after the "hands in pockets" pose.
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NOW THE EPISODE
(Episode 150)
Well this maiden's challenge is about overcoming her shyness and feeling more comfortable in her true form or at least to handle being looked at. It begins with Grey thinking about how her comrades are improving and she believes that she needs to improve too. She comments on Finral, Gordon, Luck, Magna, Noelle and Asta, the last she comments on is our grumpy boy Gauche. She comments he got "less weird" or at least she thinks so. Which is the funniest improvement to have tbh KQKQKQK actually there’s not that much screen time for Gauche’s improvement/or just focus during the timeskip but it’s fine too
Grey in Gauche's form goes to speak with Gauche himself. She is probably hella embarrassed at this point to need to transform in him to ask for his help. He asks why she is walking around in his form and then she actually asks for help. But he doesn't understand at all since their magic attributes are totally different. Then she explains that she would like to learn how to be more confident. Since she asked him for his help is safe to assume she thinks of Gauche as a confident individual too, I just think he has that “zero fucks attitude” which goes along with it tbh
He refuses at first, to which she says "Don't be mean >_< help me", then he says that he doesn't get anything in return. She offers to do a favor for him. He agrees to help if she transforms into Marie and reads a script of cute quotes to him. Well Grey still is a bit puzzled since she isn't the real Marie but that would make him happy anyway? Gauche is just like "I will survive since I only see real Marie monthly"
Well, outside Gauche surrounds Grey with mirrors with his reflection on it, like it must be a total nightmare of embarrassment for Grey jakqkaka being watched 360 by Gauche.
Well she can't handle it as it is obvious and Gauche is forced to think of something else. Then the whole butterfly hypnosis thing happens, where he commanded Grey to have a carefree mind like a turtle. If I Google it for the overanalyzing sarcasm, Goggle says that "Butterflies symbolize the essence of eternal love and companionship" and “If the turtle is your spirit animal, you probably value stability and security in your relationships. You tend to move slowly and methodically, taking your time to get to know someone before committing. However, you can sometimes be too cautious, missing out on opportunities because you're afraid of taking risks.” UEDUHIUEHD
Overanalyzing sarcasm aside, Butterflies are the symbol of transformation which goes along with Grey. That's it.
Back to our slowburn as it is, she handles the fact that she is being watched 360 by Gauche and he smiles at the accomplishment.
He takes her to town, (date vibes- kidding UEIHIUDHED) and she is quite handling well to be around so many people. Gauche says it will be fine to be surrounded by her comrades then. She thanks him and there he goes asking for her to fulfill her end of the deal.
She transforms into Marie, Gauche immediately rushes nose bleeding to hug "Marie". Grey goes back to her true form. Gauche stops there mid almost hug (;-;) and asks why she turned back, to which Grey is embarrassed again and replies that "that was a bit much". He tells her to transform back. Some people see that as him forcing her, I can see that too but at the same time well they were testing Grey embarrassment too after all and he doesn’t do it again so meh, whatever it was he redeems himself a few seconds after so yeah UEUDHEH. She says she can't transform because she is embarrassed. That means the hypnosis has also worn off. I have the theory that probably the hypnosis worn off because well Grey got embarrassed because it was Gauche… And it’s sus, so that person that you have a sus feeling coming to hug you is fucked up but it’s just a theory, probably it just worn off naturally and that’s pretty much it.
Gauche complains that she got back to normal, so he looks away from her and says that it was a waste of time all their work. Also the frame where Grey is dying of embarrassment and Gauche is looking away, if you take out of the context looks like two embarrassed people that have that sus feeling towards each other is funny UIEUDHEIUHD
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Then he asks why she just doesn't turn to the other form since she doesn't get embarrassed while transformed. Grey says that it wouldn't be the real her. To which Gauche replies with the infamous "No matter what form you take, you are always Grey" and starts walking away as if it was nothing like the aloof wannabe mf he is (Zora and Gauche are just that type of guy but then internally they are soft edgy mfs). Grey giggles and then follows him.
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With that being said…I think is great that he didn't actually see her as his sister when he asked to turn into her. It's still weird and all if you think too much about it due to the siscon thing, but despite popular opinion I don't shipp them just for Gauche to lose his "siscon" thing, he is already working pretty much on it when caring for his team mates and such. Also I think their partnership is far more about just Grey making him transcend or some shit. Also, I think it was nice of him not forcing her at all to transform back after that or pressuring her. Their time was wasted and he was just like "oh well...", not to mention him like saying that to Grey. Finally, It’s pretty much convenient calling the episode “The Maidens’ Challenge”, and including two “princesses/maidens” with their “princes”. Two anxious princesses in their own waysUEIDUHED and well those… two princes UDEDUYEH Let's head now to the Heart Kingdom Joint Struggle Arc
(Chapter 240/241/242/243- Episode 162) Well I like these three panels. We have "Them", "Traumatized them" and "Gauche having a window jumpscare" like Grey did (not exactly a jumpscare but it was a funny paralel)
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We have a little scene before Gauche goes with shit. Like in the anime Grey notices Gauche isn't there when he goes off to the roof. But well GAUCHE GOES WITH SHIT
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ah wrong image
BUT GAUCHE GOES WITH SHIT In the anime we can see Grey looking at him worried and yeah good job Grey ;-; I would be brain dead at that point because I would be feeling so much shit that worried would be my last facial expression, that's why I'm not a magic knight for sure
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Grey cries calling out his name and cries because she couldn't do anything and her magic is "useless". She cries, we cry, I cry,- idk if he is in the same state as Yami when he was about to die in the Spade Raid arc and Charlotte confessed to him, but he didn't manage to listen to any of what she said. so idk if he is listening at all at least he is kinda seeing what's happening in front of him and he knows she saved him well
(Chapter 244_Episode 163) CINDERELLA GREY LET'S GOOO
As Dante casually wrecks the shit out of Asta, Grey is having a hard time, I mean, sure Gauche is literally dying BUT HEY GREY MY GIRL is having a hard time.
It seems like he is looking at her while he dies but I'm not sure so I won't go further into it.
mf just looking straight to what's in front of him and I'm like OH SHIT HE IS LOOKING AT HER
Seriously I can't tell at all
We see her Cinderella back story, we cry- I cry and we will skip to the part where she runs away from home. A group of bastards try to do you know what to Grey (in one of her step sisters from) and suddenly Gauche saves her. However he tells her to not be mistaken, he just saved her because Marie asked him to. By seeing how Gauche and Marie are good siblings she wishes she had a good sibling relationship like that. Well Gauche asks what she is doing at a forest. She doesn't know how to answer, Marie says she should go back home. Gauche asks if she ran away from home and well here we have Gauche's life advice:
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Well destiny brought them to the same place. And that advice actually helped her a lot. When she was recruited to the Black Bulls, there, she reencountered Gauche but he did not recognize her. Regardless, she was grateful AF for him indirectly leading her to the squad, where she felt that she truly belonged and made friends who are like family to her. Which is also some type of Cinderella and Prince thing, he doesn't recognizing her because she was transformed into a maiden. Also if I was to be dramatic, her transformation on the night she met Gauche went off just like Cinderella's at midnight. In Cinderella, she is the one to disappear so she can go back to normal away from everybody else, however in this story Gauche just walked away and Grey got back to normal. Cinderella Gauche confirmed- However to be fair it probably wasn't midnight but it's a parallel I guess. Actually I could be even more hours talking about all the meanings and shit behind the Cinderella parallel but I might as well die from writing. Ah About her true name theory, I have no idea what it might be but if it is meant to be "Cinderella's name" I just wanna say to everyone who gets Cinderella's name wrong, her name is ELLA, not AURORA, not RELLA it's ELLA. CINDER plus ELLA (not including the old origin story of Cinderella for that info) I just wanted to say that because I've seen so many people getting Cinderella's name wrong while theorizing and it hurts However I don't think Grey's name is Ella or Cinderella, I have no clue I wouldn't be surprised if her name is Blue or some shit IUDEIUDHHE And her sisters where like "sksksksk Grey matches your name since it's a colour too" Idk guys UIEDUHUHE BACK TO FOCUS, in the anime it is added the scene of episode 150 where Gauche tells Grey that she will always be Grey doesn't matter what form she takes to add more into it. Well she wishes to save him and-
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she does save him and says this cute thing too <3
well
then Gauche is just there IUDEIDUHEIU lowkey dying but this time alive and well IUEHDIE
(Chapter 260-Episode 167) Well Asta and Yami win and stuff- Gauche wakes up (Note: Grey never left his side, I know she wouldn't be helpful at all in the battle but yeah SUS) She is just happy as hell and hugs him out of happiness. Which is cute because she was THAT happy to not even think on how "embarassing it would be". He doesn't brush her away or anything but well she gets embarrassed and pushes herself away apologizing. Worth mentioning Vanessa lowkey shipping-
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In the anime, that scene stays basically the same but Gauche actually talks besides saying "...Hey, Grey"
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ups wrong pic He still says "Hey, Grey", then she notices that she is hugging him, lets go of him while apologizing and Gauche asks why she is apologizing ;-; In the English dub instead of "Hey, Grey", I believe he asks if she is okay after she thanks the gods for him to be okay. In the English dub Vanessa also says "Yeah something is up with those to for sure"
After that, they are just framed together basically. To be fair I think they are meant to have something because manga foreshadowing is always important duedhiuehd and yeah at this point there's no reason to put all this moment and Grey's back story with Gauche if they are meant to be just friends or nothing at all. If they end up as friends, I'm okay too however I feel like something is off IUEDIUDH But I also don't see a big dramatic kiss out of nowhere
(Chapter 261-Episode168) Grey asks Owen to take a proper look at Gauche since mf almost fell out of the world. In the anime Gauche reasures Grey that he is okay and healed quite softly which which is SUS AF When Owen reveals that Grey's magic might not be transformation after all, in the anime Gauche asks what kind of magic it is then. quite interested aren't we- SUS But I won't overlook that I mean mf just almost died and well it's normal to have curiosity at least IOUDEOIDJ but in the anime his shock is also framed with Grey's so
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Now let's hold back the canon events for a bit and let's go to the movie
At Black Clover: Sword of the Wizard King There aren't at all many scenes, and it makes sense since when they appear the focus is the black bulls in general, fighting or been there.
However, one of the scenes is as they watch Yuno in the arena, Vanessa comments to Gauche on how everyone wants to see Yuno. To which he responds with " I only want to see my dearest sister Marie", Grey looks at him with a kinda sad expression, but I won't get much into detail since she looked already kind of sad before looking at him. She comments "as expected from Gauche-kun" and keeps staring as he chuckles.
The other scene is what made my heart go "AAAAAAA" (you probably know what I'm talking about) Despite the movie not being canon, I think it's still a great scene that shows that something is sus between them JQKQKWOW When the Black Bulls are fighting Edward Avalaché, there's the scene where Finral and Gauche "teleport" Gordon and Grey out of the danger. Finral transports Gordon alone ("alone" as meaning he just caught him in a portal, he didn't transported himself to go get him), Gordon even falls on the floor poor guy. He drops him like shit, kidding Gordon just falls wuwiaka, but I want to point out the opposite moods. Then Gauche, mf appears with Grey in his arms and she thanks him stuttering. Like that was a sight to see KQKQKQKW
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Sure, It's just nice of him to be that caring, but he didn't need to be THAT caring if you know… something wasn't sus. Probably if he didn't have that extra care towards her, he would have just dropped her beside him or something like that, not hold her in that dramatic way I mean kwoqowow
Well on the movie we got happiness, on the manga we got pain (the real ones know the feeling) JAKWKWKW Not complaining If I thought the movie scene was a dramatically great sight, the manga events were a theatrically tragic beautiful sight ;-;
Let's head back to the canon events again with the SPADE KINGDOM RAID ARC
(Chapter 312) THE BLACK BULLS CRASH THE RAID PARTY we have just brief scenes of them. I saw some people mad at Gauche telling Grey to shut up after her saving him. Bros, i swear I would curse the shit out of my wife if she was being embarassed in the middle of a war. To be honest he was quite light by saying "Shut up for now…" Like what the hell would he say "yo love chill out, here hold my hand" God no-
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We have another Grey Mirror Brigade feels like the 20th IUEIUhd After that they are pretty much framed together or near each other like they didn't left each others side anymore (not talking just about this arc because I do know it's only a few scenes of them together, but like since the Agrippa family thing they pretty much have been usually together)
well let's go to the Final and Current arc
(Chapter 337)(Let's include chapter 361 to keep in mind they are still side to side) They learn about Asta's "death" and well they are there existing but props to the fits I liked them.
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(Chapter 364-365 ;-;) Before the pain, here's tiny them preparing for the 100th Grey Mirror Brigade
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well, then DAMNatio.. YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID
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missing the movie;-;
So Gauche jumps to take the hit for Grey, he fails. We have these really theatrical death panels, that well is the sus confirmation that yup something is meant to happen between them. It's way too theatrical at this point what Romeo and Juliet type of shit am I witnessing- I don't know what happened in the timeskip but yeah 1 year and 3 months brings people together (not saying they are together as a couple oficially of course) Also I wonder what Gauche might have felt after noticing he failed to protect Grey.
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(Chapter 367) They are revived together which is another fair detail to have in count and here they are
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I've seen some people commenting that they might not be getting matching scars but it would be iconic to be fair Therefore we just need to wait for the rest now
WELL WE'VE REACHED THE END (for now) OF THE GREYCHE GUIDE DUYEGDIG (until chapter 368 format)
I might cover the new updates in the future WELL I HOPE YOU LIKED THIS MASSIVE GUIDE DIOEODEJIOED thx <3
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you cant tell me alecdora "vangeancesama" sandler and patri "my dearest friend" the elf don't have the bitchiest rivalry known to man.
and you also can't tell me william doesn't choose patri every single time in these fights.
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kcuf-ad · 7 months
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Yuno - Anime's Best Rival
In anime, there are many tropes that people love to add like the Tsundere, Battle System, Humour but with heavy drama, but there is one that seems to be the most popular.
Rivals
There are rivals in media like Superman and Batman, Burger King and McDonald's, Cola and Pepsi, but there isn't a definitive best rival character in anime.
Sure there Great ones like Vegeta, Seto Kaiba and Sasuke, but no one can agree who is the best one.
But I think, I have found him.
His name is Yuno and in this, I will go in detail on why he is Anime's greatest rival.
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Let's start at why he became a rival, and it is actually pretty simple and respectful. He was getting robed as a young child as then Asta ran up to him and saved him, as he learned that anyone can do Great things even if they are commoners, as then they make a promise that they will fight to see who will become the Wizard King.
That is short and simple and shows of that they have respect to each other as they themselves call each other rivals all the time and it shows their past.
Then let us go over how they treat each other.
You might think that someone as serious as Sasuke would be cold towards him, but you couldn't be further from the truth.
This man loves, respects and cares about his rival. This man has the belief that Asta is the only one worthy to be his rival. Not even the strongest guy is worthy to him as Asta. Whenever he is in Danger, you can bet that Yuno is there to Save him from Danger. He was holding back Spirit Dive since he thought Asta would be the one to push him in that stage. He knew the Clover Kingdom was safe as they have Asta in it.
He was ready to fight several royals that were attacking his Brother, but stopped once he saw that Asta was doing fine.
Now let's go over the differences between the two.
Asta has gray hair, Yuno has black.
Asta has no magic, Yuno has a ton.
Asta is loud and impatient, Yuno is calm and collected.
Asta is in the worst Squad, Yuno is in the best.
Asta is jacked to no end, Yuno is more lean.
Asta attracts taller women, Yuno attracts shorter women.
Asta's form is that of a Devil, Yuno is that of an Angel.
Asta looks like a Devil with more Dark colours with a right wing, Yuno looks like an Angel with more Light colours with a left wing.
Yuno and Asta are the complete opposites in every way, but they have the same goal and they both have respect each other.
Hope you enjoyed this.
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Thank you again for your ask, anon! 💖 I apologise that this has taken me a bit, but here are my favourite Black Clover characters narrowed down to 10. This was hard choice (part of the reason it has taken so long for me to answer this ask), but I allowed myself 5 female characters and 5 male characters in order to narrow it down! 😅
Note: This is list is in the order that they popped into my head.
Vanessa Enoteca
Charmy Pappitson
Finral Roulacase
Langris Vaude
Finesse Calmreich
Magna Swing
Noelle Silva
Charlotte Roselei
Gordon Agrippa
Henry Legolant
[Also worth mentioning: David, Dorothy, Grey, Leo, Letoile, Mereoleona, Rill, William, and Yuno...and so many others...This was difficult 💦]
This post ended up so much longer than I anticipated (I really should not be given license/encouragement to talk about my favourite Black Clover characters 😅) so I've decided to break the discussion in half and only talk about the first five characters here. The second half I'll have to add on later (as to not be too overwhelming 💦)
Discussion under the cut because it's long and contains some spoilers for the Elf and Spade Arcs. Also, some mild, vaugish discussions of certain characters' childhood tr*uma and mentions of past verbal, emotional, & psychological ab*se related to their tragic backstories.
1. Vanessa — Gosh, I love her! She might be my favourite character. There is just so much more to her than the token drunk, fan-service party-girl, that you originally see. She's the best "big sister" to everyone on her squad and has such a gift for building people up and encouraging them. Despite all of the pain and terrible experiences in her past, she chooses to be kind and still finds reasons to be genuinely happy, and what she wants more than anything else is to make everyone around her happy too. She's warm, intuitive, empathetic, a great listener, and one of the best at advice, and she loves her friends so deeply (with bonds so strong they can literally bring them back from the dead). I think one of my favourite things about her is how she is incredibly strong, independent, and capable as both a person and a mage, but she also gets to have her light-hearted, silly, and playful moments and gets to like more traditionally feminine things (which is not something a lot of strong female characters in media usually get to do, as if being feminine and being strong & independent are mutually exclusive 🙄 So it is really wonderful and refreshing to get to see all of those traits in her). Also, her character arc is stellar, in my opinion, and one of the best handled in the series. (That moment where she stares down at Her Majesty and tells her they have no bonds, gives me chills every time). She has grown so much, and it warms my heart that she has her Black Bulls family after everything she has been through. I want all the good things for her! 💕
2. Charmy — Charmy cracks me up! She always brings the brightest smile to my face whenever she shows up, but even more than that, I think she is a much better character than she is given credit for. I really love that oft-forgotten snarky, playful, a little bluntly honest, and a bit more intuitive side of her, so I try to bring that out when I write about her. I have a lot of respect for the role Charmy takes in her friendships too. In my mind at least, she isn't completely oblivious to what's going on with her friends, but for the most part, she chooses to takes this laissez-faire/'live and let live' attitude with them. She cares about them very much, wants them to be happy, and will make them all kinds of delicious foods to cheer them up if they're sad or upset, but she's a bit hands-off when it comes to what they decide to do with their lives (and doesn't feel it's her business to intervene unless she has to). If they want to share, I have no doubt that she'd listen (probably from the kitchen where she's putting a tray of cupcakes in the oven), but I really do think she personally is more comfortable showing support through feeding her friends rather than getting involved in their problems. (The issue being, of course, on those rare occasions, when her food doesn't work...). I've got a deep love for rare Charmy friendships--especially between her and Vanessa, and her and Finral (neither of which made it on my top 10 relationships but they'd probably rank as 11 & 12). My favourite future headcanon for Charmy is that she starts a bar & restaurant with Vanessa and marries Rill. 😊
3. Finral — It's probably obvious to anyone who has spent any length of time around my blog that I love the spatial brothers and could talk about them for ages (so I will try my best to keep it brief 😅). As much as I love him now, Finral actually annoyed me in the beginning with all of his excessive flirting (though my sister always teased me that he was my "secret favourite"), but I think that as the story goes on, we really get to dive into the why behind the way he is acting—that he’s really just starving for the unconditional love he never received as a child and that he has such a big, generous and kind heart and is looking for real love rather than just flings (like the usual “token flirt” character). Those kinds of wounds never really go away, and I think that inside Finral there is still a sad, lonely little boy just desperately waiting for, wishing for love that never comes and blaming himself for not being good enough to “earn” it. It breaks my heart—I just want somebody to scoop him up and hug him and tell him it isn’t his fault. And yes, it really is impossible not to love him after that—even if there have been many times when he as a character (and his arc) have frustrated me. I will say, I really think that Finral is at his best when he isn't trying so hard to be charming. Yes, he's a scatterbrained goofball, but he's a lovable scatterbrained goofball—and I personally find that extremely endearing. He wears his heart on his sleeve, is sensitive not only to his own feelings but also to the feelings of others, and he is incredibly sincere. It's rare that male characters get to be so soft and so vulnerable and get to have such big feelings without being a complete joke. (Sure there are some jokes about Finral being emotional, but for the most part, his emotions are validated and respected). He is also one of the most genuinely kind characters in the series, extremely generous, humble, and loyal to his friends. (He's also sometimes, begrudgingly, the voice of reason for them which is, honestly, saying something about the Black Bulls...). And, perhaps most importantly, he is all of these things even after of all of the horrible things that have happened to him in his life (which could have just as easily made him jaded, cold, and cynical like Langris). Finral has suffered a lot, but he still chooses kindness and forgiveness--chooses to see and to believe in the good in people (even in people who hurt him, like his brother who he never gives up on and always gives the benefit of the doubt). There is a strength in that kindness that he doesn't give himself credit for.
4. Langris — As much as I didn't particularly care for Finral in the beginning, I positively detested Langris for the longest time (because, of course, as soon as I start to really like Finral's character, Langris shows up and is nothing but nasty to him. I actually remember my sister and I, turning to each other saying, “Do we like Finral now?” “I think we like Finral now” right before we started the episode where Langris first appeared 💦). I never thought I'd be a Langris sympathizer (and certainly not to this extent), but I always got the feeling that Langris was a victim of the toxicity and abuse of House Vaude, too. It is a horrible, cruel thing for parents to withhold unconditional love from their children, and as much as Ledior and Liliane withheld love from Finral, they withheld it from Langris as well forcing him to “earn” their love by living up to unattainable expectations of perfection. Even though he was the "perfect son" and extremely successful, nothing he ever did was enough for his parents, leaving him a jaded and insecure overachieving perfectionist who is extremely hard on others but is even harder on himself. He is also, arguably, starving for unconditional love as much as Finral—the difference being that where his brother tries to fill that void with flirting & pursuing romantic relationships, Langris tries to fill it with his accomplishments, successes, and achievements (ultimately & unhealthily finding his entire sense of self-worth in them). I think what's really tragic here is that Langris has such a deep capacity for love--I have no doubt that when he chooses to care about someone, he will love forever. However, he has this crippling fear of vulnerability and rejection that prevents him from building meaningful relationships. He doesn't like games he can't see a possibility of winning and since he doesn't believe that anyone could actually love him, he counts himself out of the running and closes himself off to people--his brother included. None of this excuses any of the horrible things that Langris has done or the way that he has treated Finral, but it does make him a little more sympathetic and gives me hope for a brighter future in which he and Finral can make amends and begin to rebuild their brotherly relationship. My poor boys, I want good things for them. 💚💙
I know I have droned on and on already, but I feel like I've just roasted Langris without saying many good things about him 😅 so I'm adding some here. Langris is incredibly intelligent, forthright, dependable, responsible, and loyal. He can be snarky and a little too blunt at times, but I think for all of his attempts at being cold, curt, and detached, he actually has a secret softer, gentler side. In the companion to this post (about my top 10 favourite Black Clover relationships), I talked a little about Langris's friendship with Finesse and how that brings out this soft side of him. With her, I think, we get to see that he's very attentive and thoughtful, and that he can actually be very selfless. He genuinely wants her to be happy--even if that means helping his brother shape up so he can be a man worthy of her and take over their House (when, arguably, Langris is the one who wants to be the Head of House Vaude and has worked towards that goal for his entire life). And that is the Langris that I like--the Langris who cares very, very much, not in some big, grand gesture but in a cluster of small gestures that really boil down to being loyal, stable, and present when someone needs him and to being willing to make sacrifices for what's best for someone else. Say what you will about Langris (and there are a lot of negative and critical things to say about him), but when it comes down to it, I think he has grown a lot over the series and the person that he is now, has shown an admirable willingness to give up the things he wants for the people he cares about if he thinks that's what's best for them (not just in the example with Finesse and Finral, but he also gives up his greatest achievement, being Vice Captain of the Golden Dawn, to Yuno and basically admits in Spade that it's because Yuno is the better leader for their squad). He cares more than he's willing to admit, and though I don't think he'll ever be the type to easily express it with his words, his actions speak loud enough. And yes, I like him very much for that. 💖
5. Finesse — I suppose this is a good segue since I was just talking about her, but, yes, I know she is an out-of-the-box choice. However, I'm incredibly fond of her and think she is criminally underrated. I'll admit her appearance in media res did throw me for a loop for a bit and gave me some emotional whiplash at first, but that's not her fault (and is another story entirely). Even so, Finesse is instantly likeable. She might be the kindest person in this entire series, and she so generously and naturally gives to others without expecting anything for herself. She has such a gentle strength to her too--a beautiful example that even the smallest acts of kindness and encouragement can really make a hugest difference. What she’s done for Finral and Langris just by caring about them and offering them compassion and believing the best in them has really meant the world to them, I think (saying nothing of the fact that, in turn, both of the spatial mage boys would bend over backwards to make her happy--a fact that, I think, would genuinely surprise her as she's so humble, bless her heart 💕). I have no doubt that she genuinely cares for both Finral and Langris very much, and she is so good for both of her boys and knows them so well--sometimes, even better than they know themselves. I don't know the extent to which she understands the reality of how awful things are at House Vaude because, I imagine, both Finral and Langris are very protective of her and don’t want to "burden" her with their problems (though she wouldn't see it that way if they ever did open up to her, of course); however, I think she knows that things are difficult for them (i.e. that Finral is struggling with self-deprecation and was suffering emotionally before he left home and that Langris is much harder on himself than he is on anyone else and misses his brother very much) and decides to be this kind, warm, and gentle presence in both of their lives. She chooses to see so much good in them, even if they can't see it in themselves (when she tells Finral that she believes he's a true magic knight or defends Langris to the King even when he's gone on an elf-possession-induced rampage, for instance). No matter what, she selflessly wants what's best for her boys, and there's something very sweet about how she inspires them to become the best version of themselves--with Finral striving to become "worthy of her" and Langris bringing out that softer, gentler side when they're spending time together.
I think Finesse gets a bit of a bad rep for being meek, gentle, and “dull” (to quote a younger, dumber version of a certain someone who likely just didn't want to be in arranged marriage), but there really is a strength in consistently choosing to be kind, especially in the face of adversity. This poor girl is chronically ill and (arguably because of that) is forced into an arranged marriage which is, on paper at least, undesirable for her--marrying into House Vaude is definitely below her station as a member of the House of Kira, plus it's a literal hellscape of a vicious cycle of toxicity and abuse. Her future in-laws are genuinely horrible people who traumatized their sons with their cruelty, leaving both of her possible future spouses/romantic prospects with serious, unresolved psychological issues. Not to mention the fact that she doesn't even really know which one of their sons she's actually engaged to... Just luckily, Finral and Langris are decent enough people and either of them would be likely be a good husband and try his best to make her happy, but still... this is a lot for poor Finesse. And yet, she takes this all in stride, approaches the situation with dignity, grows to genuinely care for Langris and Finral, and shows them nothing but kindness, support, and encouragement (quite possibly for the first time in their lives). In fact, when Langris has all that elf-business and the King threatens to dissolve the betroval and punish the Vaudes, it is Finesse who comes to their defense rather than taking what is quite possibly her only chance at an "out," and there is something to be admired in that, I think. She just deserves a lot more love and a lot more credit than she is given, and she is genuinely one of my favourites. 💖
Thank you so much for reading all the way to the end! 🥰 Many thanks again for the ask, anon. 💖 I think I will need to stop there for now. I will talk about the other 5 in another post as this one is already super long... 😅 Cheers!! 🥂
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Season 3, Ep 11: RIP Shoto's Wig
Hey y'all! Join us as we discuss the My Hero Academia episode "One for All", including glowing gay rainbow time, a Horny Break about Yami from Black Clover, and why Toshi should be allowed to say f*ck. You can find spoilers and TWs on our website, myheroanalysis.com. Thanks for listening!
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How long does it take the Captains to insult each other? A meta
Well, okay, this is less a meta and more a collection of data with a bit of a conclusion at the bottom, but if you were wondering how long it takes these guys to start insulting each other when there's more than two of them in a room, the answer is literally seconds.
I'm going off the anime for this particular meta/analysis/data collection as the manga doesn't really have timings.
I'm also only counting times with three or more Captains as when there's only two of them they tend to be more civil.
The first moment we have more than two Captains in the room and we actually see them talking is during the banquet after the promotion ceremony during the attack on the Capital.
In this scene, we have three Captains present; Nozel, Charlotte and Fuegoleon
It takes a grand total of twelve seconds after they started talking for Fuegoleon to ask Nozel if he has "no sense of honour" and I'm counting that as an insult.
Shortest time taken to insult each other: Twelve seconds
Longest time taken to insult each other: Twelve seconds
Next scene with more than two Captains is in Nean when they're fighting the Third Eye and Nozel, Charlotte and Jack turn up to help fight.
Captains present; Yami, Nozel, Charlotte, Jack.
It takes fifteen seconds (counting from the time Jack starts talking) for Yami to call the other three "high and mighty fellow captains" (note: in the VIZ media translation in the manga he says "lousy so-called friends"). At twenty eight seconds Nozel is threatening to have Yami executed and literally two seconds after that Yami says "look at your hair, how am I supposed to take you seriously?".
The very first thing Charlotte says in this scene is calling Yami "pitiful".
Shortest time taken to insult each other: Twelve seconds
Longest time taken to insult each other: Fifteen seconds
Next scene with multiple Captains talking is the first Captains Meeting!
Captains present; Yami, William, Nozel, Charlotte, Jack, Dorothy, Gueldre, Rill.
Ten seconds in and we get "Four Magic Knight Captains and you let a terrorist ringleader get away? How Embarrassing!"
Jack and Gueldre's entire conversation is literally just shallowly disguised insults, the first thing Nozel says is basically insulting Yami and Jack, and Charlotte's first words scream "I'm surrounded by idiots."
Rill never actually insults anyone but also pretty much immediately offended everyone by saying Fuego could fix shit.
Shortest time taken to insult each other: Ten seconds
Longest time taken to insult each other: Fifteen seconds
Star Festival Rankings announcement:
Captains present; William, Nozel, Fuegoleon, Jack, Dorothy, Gueldre, Rill.
It takes a grand total of seven seconds after the rankings have been announced for Jack to start insulting Rill.
Shortest time taken to insult each other: Seven seconds
Longest time taken to insult each other: Fifteen seconds
Anime-only meeting after the announcement where Yami and Jack destroy Augustus' light statue.
Captains present: Yami, William, Nozel, Charlotte, Fuegoleon, Jack, Dorothy, Kaiser, Rill.
It takes thirty seven seconds for Charlotte to call Yami "utterly devoid of tact" and most of those thirty seven seconds are taken up by William apologising for getting all the cheering. Apologies are unusual for these people.
Shortest time taken to insult each other: Seven seconds
Longest time taken to insult each other: Thirty seven seconds
(I've skipped the Captains fight for this mostly because I didn't feel like trying to track every single time they insult each other when they have an entire episode to insult each other)
Anime-only meeting where they decide who to send to Heart.
Captains present: Yami, William, Nozel, Charlotte, Fuegoleon, Jack, Dorothy, Kaiser, Rill.
Surprisingly enough, there aren't any real insults at this meeting. This is probably because Julius is sat at the head of the table.
Shortest time taken to insult each other: Seven seconds
Longest time taken to insult each other: Thirty seven seconds
Final Captains meeting in the anime.
Captains present: Nozel, Charlotte, Fuegoleon, Jack, Dorothy, Kaiser, Rill. Vice-Captains present: Yuno.
Nine seconds in and Charlotte's insulting Yami and William with "and they dare to call themselves Magic Knight Squad Captains?"
Jack has by far one of the most direct insults with "turns out the Golden Dawn has a snivelling coward for a Vice-Captain" about thirty five seconds in.
One minute and ten seconds of them actually talking at this meeting, Jack tries to leave.
Shortest time taken to insult each other: Seven seconds
Longest time taken to insult each other: Thirty seven seconds
I started making this list after watching the movie and being very disappointed by the lack of any sort of insults or arguments between the Captains. It felt very out of character for them to me. That being said, Jack being casual about the end of the world is very much in-character.
I've seen several people in this fandom saying that the other Captains pick on Rill a lot, and, yes, to be fair, they do, but that's also just how they are with each other. I've skipped the conversations with only two of them in a room, but even those are full of insults and barbs, there's just less of them. The difference between Rill and the rest of the Captains is he doesn't fire anything back when he gets insulted.
In conclusion, while they don't directly insult each other as often as you might think, they're all passive-aggressive fuckers and it only takes them seconds to start trading barbs.
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What I want to know is why Bleach? A bloody Shonen doesn't exactly fit the Disney brand, which is an entire other debacle since shows like The Owl House have also been dropped for not fitting "the brand" despite being a lot tamer than Bleach. If they absolutely had to grab an anime title, why not something like Spy x Family which has more of an all-ages tone and would save the company money for all that unnecessary censorship.
My best guess is that they probably reached out, huge amounts of cash in hand, to a bunch of studios with large series on which they could hopefully capitalize. I think that they’d want to somehow eventually get the bigger more popular series on Disney + exclusively to work their way into that market. Since Funamation and Crunchyroll merged they probably saw an opportunity to butt in and get some stuff for themself.
Studio Pierrot has Bleach alongside big series such as Naruto, Naruto Shippuden, Boruto, and Black Clover. Saying that, my best guess is that they’d want to end up getting the rights to those too and just want some heavy hitters under their belt so they can take control of a portion of the anime market. Plus, while those titles may be a bit darker, they don’t have nearly as much of the typical cringy-anime-nudity-and-sex-stuff. Well, Naruto does but that parts pretty easily censored. In a way they do fit “the brand” simply because they’re not gay, which is the reason their cutting all the shows that they are. Though Naruto is very very gay
I think part of it is because of the backlash of how their treating their animators and VFX artists. American studios are getting bold -as they should be- and speaking up about their horrid working conditions and the blatant homophobia. So Disney is pulling that content and switching bases. Japanese animators have dealt with horrid pay and conditions and terrible 12+ hour shifts for so long that it’s normalized and no one really makes a fuss about it but they should be, but that’s another issue for another time. So, they think, rubbing their greedy little mouse paws together, why not capitalize on it?
I worry that this is just a small step into attempting to control and censor the anime community as a whole, since Disney wants to get their grubby mits on everything. Bleach is just dipping their toes in and testing it out. Let them be overwhelmed by the sheer amount of filth uwu
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Twisted Wonderland Analysis (Tarot Card Offical Countdown Art)
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Ace (23) and Duce (22)- No cards (in Major Arcana), The fool(s). Meaning new beginnings, having faith in the future, being inexperienced, not knowing what to expect, having beginner's luck, improvisation, and believing in the universe.
Normal:  Beginnings, Innocence, Leap of faith, Originality, Spontaneity
Upside down/reversed: Chaos, Folly, Lack of direction, Naivety, Poor judgment, Stupidity
I’m going to think Ace and Deuce are both the fool. I’m sure that they will the strongest card (the ace of spades). So the card confirms that they will be. In central Europe, the fool is the 22nd and the strongest card, which confirms this theory more.
They are both the first students MC interacts with (without Grimm), which is the “new beginnings” 
In the commercial of the Heartslabyul arc, you can see Cater and Trey on the edge of the screen showing most of their faces. But Ace and Duce show only show half of their Faces. This isn’t really about the card “The Fool” but it could mean they will be an odd card up the sleeve 
My card is in black, white, and red as well, so I think I used the right version, just because the cards’ color and the color of the Heartslabyul dorm are alike if not similar. (Ace=red and Deuce=black in my opinion)
In my version “the fool” has a crown in their hand. So I can conclude that the crown symbolizes “power”, I think he’s trying to communicate with someone who is higher than him (gods, rulers, etc.) using it. And the stick he’s holding represents fertility, which has a strong correlation to “trickster”, and the ends of the stick can also correlate to having two opposite ends (figuratively). Thus, it means that the person symbolizes being a fool, but they still have a side that calculates a plan. So it can also mean that the person, while not having a plan, still has a plan (Wikipedia, and yes, it's confusing sorry.)
Rook calls MC “Trickster Yuu-Kun”. The name does confirm this theory (fool=trickster). (”Trickster”- one who has two sides, the one who will change the story) And it is MC, Duce, and Ace that make a huge impact on the story. 
Cater Diamond (21)-  The World Za Warudo; represents an ending to a cycle of life, a pause in life before the next big cycle beginning with the fool. It is an indicator of a major and inexorable change, of tectonic breadth.
Normal: Achievement, Perfection, Fulfillment, Possibilities, Successful conclusions
Upside down/reversed: Delayed success, Failed plans, Lack of completion, Stagnation
Cater's last name is “Diamond”. Diamonds are the hardest jewel and are called the “king of all gemstones”, but they are also very brittle.
Cater is a very optimistic character, but he is also secretly very insecure about himself, so he hides his true self and acting the “perfect and strong diamond” to public
Trey Clover (20)-  Judgement; time of resurrection and awakening, a time when a period of our life comes to an absolute end making way for dynamic new beginnings.
Normal:  Awakening, Decision making, Redemption, Reincarnation, Renewal, Transition
Upside down/reversed: Poor logic, Poor or hasty judgment, Self-doubt, Stagnation
Trey didn’t stop Riddle when he was making unreasonable rules (poor judgment), which caused riddle to overblot, and this makes him have stagnation with his judgment.
But, the card means “renewal” which could represent his unique magic (Doodle Suit overwrites with what one imagines)
Riddle Rosehearts(19): The Sun; The card portends good fortune, happiness, joy and harmony. It represents the universe coming together and agreeing with your path and aiding forward movement into something greater.
Normal: Enlightenment, Joy, Marriage, Material happiness, Success, Vitality
Upside down/reversed:  False impressions, Lack of clarity, Low Vitality, Sadness
When people first think of the sun, they tend to think of Kalim. But in this case with the Marseille cards, Riddle is the perfect fit for it. 
In the Marseille card of the tower, it looks like the “sun” is spewing out what looks like flames to the tower removing the crown-like top, which may be a reference for Riddle’s unique magic, “Off with your head.”
 In the Savannaclaw arc, Riddle managed to stop Leona from overblotting too soon. Also, Leona’s overblot form uses nature, While 2 of the dorm SSR cards are fire-based, which makes him have an advantage over Leona
In his past, he was raised very strictly, which may also make him symbolize “sadness”
Jack Howl(18): The Moon; the card of illusion and deception, and therefore often suggests a time when something is not as it appears to be. Perhaps a misunderstanding on your part, or a truth you cannot admit to yourself.
Normal: Deception, Difficult period, Fear, Hidden things, Insecurity, Mental confusion
Upside down/reversed: Insomnia, Mysteries unveiled, Release of fear, Unhappiness, Unusual
In the Savannaclaw arc, he was disappointed in Leona, whom he thought he was above doing those things (difficult period and hidden things).
After he and Ruggie were able to respect Leona again after the overblot and Leona can try his best. (Release of Fear)
His unique magic and hair do have some elements of “The Moon (a transformation like a werewolf (unusual) 
At night, he (the moon) and “the stars” are the only ones near the height of “The Tower”
Ruggie Bucchi(17): The Star; you are likely to find yourself feeling inspired. It brings renewed hope and faith and a sense that you are truly blessed by the universe at this time.
Normal: Astronomy, Good health, Hope, Inspiration, Opportunities, Spirituality
Upside down/reversed: Despair, Disappointments, Illness, Missed opportunities
In the Savanna Claw arc, said something about opposing people's thoughts but he was disappointed when Leona said they could never be first.
After the overblot he has hope that he and Leona, the king he chose, can win the Magical shift tournament next year
Ruggie is the star, so he will not leave “The Tower’s” side (Leona)
Leona Kingscholar(16): The Tower; commonly interpreted as meaning danger, crisis, destruction, and liberation. It is associated with sudden unforeseen change.
Normal:  Accident or damage, Catastrophe, Destruction, Renovation, Unexpected
Upside down/reversed: Illness, Losses, Obstacles, Volatile situation
I don’t know if you’ve heard about this theory, but there is a theory that Leona is an important person in the ‘infinite loop theory’, and that's why he is repeating the grade, to break the loop.
In the opening, you see him standing in a very high place, which could represent the tower. 
Floyd Leech(15)- The Devil;  being seduced by the material world and physical pleasures. Also living in fear, domination and bondage, being caged by an overabundance of luxury, discretion should be used in personal and business matters.
Normal: Bondage, Enslavement, Fear, Feeling trapped, Materialism, Temptation, Unhealthy relationships
Upside down/reversed: Breaking from addictions, Divorce, Freedom from restraints
Bondage, enslavement, feeling trapped... Floyd hates shackles, which I assume is “bondage”
Floyd is usually hard to read like the card, as well as being a free-minded character.
Jade Leech (14)- Temperance; indicates that you should learn to bring about balance, patience, and moderation in your life. You should take the middle road, avoid extremes and maintain a sense of calm.
Normal:  Alchemy, Balance, Connecting with your guides, Harmony, Looking for divine intervention, Moderation
Upside down/reversed: Disharmony, Imbalance, Lack of patience, Onset of illness
Jade seems like a patient man, but the card says differently. If we see the ceremonial robes SSR cards, you can see that Riddle would agree that Jade is not what meets the eye. Yeah, Trey you need new glasses
Jade is probably holding back his true self; In the card, there’s an angel-like figure who has wings. Maybe, it’s suggesting the idea that Jade seems like an angel, but he’s just a demon in disguise. 
Azul Ashengrotto (13)-Death; Unlikely that this card actually represents a physical death. Typically it implies an end, possibly of a relationship or interest, and therefore implies an increased sense of self-awareness.
Normal: Endings, Failure, Letting go of attachments, Mortality, Profound change, Severe illness
Upside down/reversed: Delayed endings, Depression, Living unaware, Long terminal illness, Resistance to change
In the Octavinelle arc it goes: Letting of his past (attachments and depression)> Taking away other’s power because of his unfair deals (endings)> his contracts become sand> Overblot. Then after the overblot he has restarted his career  (Profound change)
In a wider sense, he literally symbolizes death. In the Scarabia arc, because he came, Jamil overblotted (Ending, Bad in this case).
Jamil Viper (12)-  The Hanged Man; the card that suggests ultimate surrender, sacrifice, or being suspended in time.
Normal:  Breaking old patterns, Circumspection, Letting go, Metamorphosis, Suspension
Upside down/reversed: Egotism, Inability to change, Missing an opportunity
Jamil sacrificed so much. He killed his own feelings and was suspended in time (in some sense), incapable to change, and wanted to be king, but in the end it all went to waste (missed an opportunity)
Kalim Al-Asim (11): Strength; predicts the triumphant conclusion to a major life problem, situation or temptation through the strength of character. It is a very happy card if you are fighting illness or recovering from injury.
Normal: Confidence, Enjoying power, Inner strength, Potency, Self-belief, Virility, Vitality
Upside down/reversed: Hedonism, Lack of self-control, Lacking courage, Self-doubt, Vanity
In this case, I would say that this is most likely, represented by, Kalim’s unique magic. Oasis maker requires him little effort while being very powerful. Depending on how he uses it, it could end up even killing people.
His personality says most of the reversed card, he holds many parties (hendonism) and he get’s Jamil to do most of his dorm leader work.
Epel Felmier (10)- Wheel of Fortune; common aspect to most interpretations of this card within a reading is to introduce an element of change in the querent's life, such change being in station, position or fortune: such as the rich becoming poor, or the poor becoming rich.
Normal: Chance, Changes, Destiny, Luck, Opportunity, Winning 
Upside down/reversed: Bad luck, Disappointment, Misfortune, Mishap, Unforeseen setback
In the game he has an achievement (?) called “the pretty boy with thin luck”, I think fate will work for him this time, and he gets to challenge Vil (Change and chance)
His fate with MC and the others will change in the future is what I also think.
Rook Hunt (9)- The Hermit; suggests that you are in a phase of introspection where you are drawing your attention inwards and looking for answers within. You are in need of a period of inner reflection, away from the current demands of your position.
Normal: Introspection, Meditation, Self-reflection, Solitude, Soul-searching, Withdrawal from society, Helper
  Upside down/reversed: Exile, Loneliness, Misfit, Sadness, Withdrawing from loved ones
The normal ones are basically his personality
Rook is a character to help understand Vil, such as in the Lab Coat story.
Literally, his unique magic is called "I see you"
He did not help Vil, being the one who was always loyal to him in the Pomfiore arc.
Vil Schoenheit (8)- Justice; indicates that the fairest decision will be made. Justice is the sword that cuts through a situation, and will not be swayed by outer beauty when deciding what is fair and just.
Normal: Balance and equilibrium, Cause and effect, Fairness, Justice, Responsibilty
Upside down/reversed: Dishonesty, Imbalance, Lack of accountability, Legal flaws, Unfair treatment
Vil is very unfair to people, such as Epel,
He also does acept other’s opinion if they are actually trying, such as Jack in his Gym Uniform story.
He does judge people all the same (but he doesn’t like people that don’t put effort)
Other than the “fair” in the card it can also mean “fair” as in beauty; His counterpart is known for using the word in that meaning
“Mirror, mirror, on the wall who is the fairest of them all?”
Ortho Shroud (7)- The Chariot; card about overcoming conflicts and moving forward in a positive direction. One needs to keep going on and through sheer hard work and commitment he will be victorious.
Normal: A journey, Ambition, Confidence, Drive, Overcoming obstacles, Will power
  Upside down/reversed: Lack of direction, Scattered energy, Self-doubt, Going out of control, Selfish
Othro is the only one in the whole countdown who is upside down, hence making all the meanings reversed.
If you pay close attention to his personality he is some what selfish, such as him unleashing his beam.
Idia Should (6)- The Lovers; represent relationships and choices. Its appearance in a spread indicates some decision about an existing relationship, a temptation of the heart, or a choice of potential partners. Often an aspect of the querent's life will have to be sacrificed; a bachelor(ette)'s lifestyle may be sacrificed and a relationship gained (or vice versa), or one potential partner may be chosen while another is turned down. Whatever the choice, it should not be made lightly, as the ramifications will be lasting.
Normal: Being at a crossroads, Choices, Commitment, Falling in love, Partnerships
Upside down/reversed: A broken relationship, Infidelity, Relationship issues, Separation
The relationship is his relationship with Ortho.
He made a choice in the past that he should have not made lightly. aka the one that lead to his brother's death
Sebek Zigvolt (5)- The Hierophant/Pope; seen seated on a throne between two pillars symbolizing law and liberty or obedience and disobedience. He wears a triple crown, and the keys to Heaven are at his feet. 
Normal: Education, Learning, Marriage, Religion, Seeking counsel or advice, Spiritual guidance, Tradition, Trust
Upside down/reversed: Abuse of position, Breakdown, Poor counsel, Rejection of family values
He may as well breakdown because of his loyalty to Malleus
He holds the stick like the card in the left hand.
He worships Malleus (religion) and he trusts him too much
Silver (4)- The Emperor;suggestive of stability and security in life. You are on top of things and everything in under your control. It is your hard work, discipline and self control that have bought you this far. It means that you are in charge of your life now setting up your own rules and boundaries.
Normal: Authority, Father figure, Law and order, Leadership, Power, Promotion
Upside down/reversed: Control freak, Immaturity, Lack of discipline, Loss of authority, Manipulative friends
Silver is based on a non-villan character and protects Malleus. His non-elemental magic is light
He is going to be the axis of the story; he said “I think I have met you before”
The card resembles the picture very much
In his lab coat story, he holds a book that is the exact opposite color of what others have.
He does bring order within the Diasomnia arc
Lilia Vanrouge (3)- The Empress; traditionally associated with maternal influence, is the card if you are hoping to start a family. She can represent the creation of life, romance, art, or new business.
Normal: A new opportunity, Abundance, Maternal care, Nurturing, Pregnancy, Stability, futility 
Upside down/reversed: Domestic problems, Financial issues, Stagnation, Unwanted pregnancy
Lilia is the father figure of Malleus and Silver
His talent is lullabies (nurturing)
It also can mean fertility, unknown, and time (apparently idk)> symbolizing his long life. Unknown> What we see is an altered appearance? fertility> He literally hatched Malleus
Malleus Draconia (2)- The High Priestess; a card of mystery, stillness, and passivity. This card suggests that it is time to retreat and reflect upon the situation and trust your inner instincts to guide you through it. Things around you are not what they appear to be right now.
Normal: Hidden talents, Intuition, Mystery, Spiritual insight, Things yet to be revealed
Upside down/reversed:  information withheld, Lack of personal harmony, Secrets
Literally Maleficent. nothing else 
Might hold some of the keys?
What I can say now is that he needs to retreat and reflect because what he did in chapter 7 is not nice.
Dire Crowley (1)- The Magician; it points to the talents, capabilities and resources at the querent's disposal to succeed. The message is to tap into one's full potential rather than holding back, especially when there is a need to transform something.
Normal: Determined, Dexterity, Resourceful, Skilled, Strong powerful man
Upside down/reversed: Communication blocks, Confusion, Deceit, Ill intentions, Lack of energy
By looking at the card and characters, then the most reasonable to think that will betray us is him
He may be the person who made the world of Twisted Wonderland. (There was a black magician named Crowley in Britain)
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These are from their respective sources, mainly for personal reference
Also, I wrote this like 2 years ago and touched up. So Im sorry if I'm wrong
Likes, reblogs, and follows are always appreciated :)
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hbjhkgvhj ok here are uh. some character designs i did abt a year ago
these are all based on the incredible @kayzero's fic zero win game, which is a rewrite of ztd with akane as the protagonist, and it has possibly THE BEST characterization of akane ive ever read- listen just. just go read it you will be enriched i promise.
im not putting an image description bc i dont know where to start (sorry!!) BUT ill put a bunch of character design notes below the cut for people who are insane like me <3333
ok first of all. i know when i sent these to kay the other day they said there were some details canon to zwg that i missed (akane's lil hoodie pocket, aoi wearing white to contrast junpei's black (which is SO inspired btw.)) so just. PRETEND those are there bc i forgor <3
i spent the most time on sigma, phi, akane, junpei and aoi just because they've had multiple iterations of designs. it was fun to take bits and pieces from each version of them, so thats why they get a feature page
you can see a lot of my little pink notes with criticisms of the ztd designs there. in general, i really dont like the ztd designs, they all feel unnaturally bland to me (although thats probably also the artstyle).
most people whove looked into the colour symbolism in zero escape are probably familiar with the whole red/blue thing: that is, theyre colours representing the morphogenetic field. akane and aoi are the most obvious examples of this. 'aka' means red, and 'ao' means blue. in the first nonary game, akane and clover wear red - the colour for transmitters - and aoi and light wear blue, the colour for recievers. in 999 proper, akane wears purple, to symbolise how she can recieve AND transmit, while junpei wears red and blue by themselves. you can do a whole analysis of these colours and i will not put it here thats a whole SEPERATE post
anyway! the actual designs!! i'll start with sigma. i wanted to reconcile his vlr design with zero ii's design, and initially i planned on giving him a coat, but it didnt really have a nice silhouette, so i ditched that idea. instead, i turned his jumpsuit from vlr into a polo shirt - much like what he has in ztd - and gave him some zero-y accessories: the white turtleneck, the belt and the gloves all come from zero's design. once id included the white turtleneck, making the pants white felt really logical. in character design, its generally best to limit the palette of colours as much as you can, so it was a good excuse to reuse a colour while also paying homage to his ztd design. i also cut his hair bc hes a scientist and he'd do that.
phi's design is a lot more like her vlr one than her ztd design. the blue coat was her hallmark accessory, and im shocked that they ditched it for ztd, so i gave it back - along with her boots and hair accessory. i kept her pants and glasses from ztd, as well as the way the bottom of her shirt is tucked into her pants. they just have a much nicer silhouette to me. between my first pass of colours and my second pass, phi's colours changed the most - i realised i had too many blue guys in the lineup, and wanted to make the colours stand out individually. so i leaned into phi's orange-ness. giving her hair accessory, pants and boots an orange hue instead of a blue one, as well as shifting her coat to a more teal colour really helped make those colours pop.
AKANE MY BESTIE!!!! her design was probably the one i had the most fun with. i basically just took her ztd design and purpled it. I did want to include some more details though - her neck scarf was in both her 999 AND vlr design, so it felt wrong not to include it. i also added some gold highlights to her design, just to complement the purple - her boots are also toned yellow, so it felt fitting. the cut of her sleeves, as well as her hair, felt really natural: i gave her the side ponytail from ztd, while letting more of her hair fall to the side to retain her silhouette from 999. i stole the sleeves wholesale from vlr akane, but can you blame me. look at that robe. its so pretty.
overall i have mixed feelings on ztd junpei as a character, but i think his darker turn is at the very least a fun direction to take him. I do like the jacket he has in his concept art. IT SURE WOULD BE NICE IF THE MODEL ALSO HAD A JACKET. his design went relatively unchanged overall, i basically just retoned his hair, gave him a button-up instead of a t-shirt, and puffered his jacket. the red and blue from his vest in 999 is reused here, but in darker, more muted tones. you can see in the corner of the drawing i played around with swapping the red and blue, but the red focus felt too edgy for junpei. the blue also pops really nicely against his dark clothes, so i kept it.
anyone who has spoken to me for more than ten seconds will know how insane i am about aoi kurashiki i mean come on my name is santa. i think a lot about his two designs: that of the first nonary game and in 999. in the first nonary game he wears a blue scarf, harkening to his role as a reciever, but in 999 he wears monochrome. my personal interpretation of this is that his 999 fit was him purposefully disguising his connection to the morphogenetic field. so post-999, since he doesnt have to worry about that, i gave him his blue back!!! his general fit is the same- his pants and shoes are artistry so obviously i kept those, and i ended up making the rest of his look black to contrast his 999 design. if i were to redesign him now wearing white, id probably go a different direction altogether. that third little drawing ive included has some test outfits for him, carlos, and maria, but i never really went anywhere with them. also i gave him dark roots to show his relation to akane a bit more. and also because i like projecting my roots always grow back SO fast
that brings us to the 4 characters introduced after vlr: carlos, mira, diana, and... maria??? yeah like i said go read zero win game. do it. maria is such a fun character. she was, coincidentally, ALSO the only character where i had to design someone from scratch. you can see i fiddled a little with colour palettes, trying to figure out how to give every character a unique look. diana and carlos' designs actually go almost unchanged here- i think dianas design in particular is actually pretty great, and works as a nice foil to luna in vlr. carlos is just kind of normal. he can have his silly polo shirt.
miras ztd design is. ugh ok look its FINE but i hate the boobie designs in zero escape because they always feel like they were designed seperately from the character. mira in zwg is still a sussy baka, but she's a lot more cordial- i enjoyed seeing her more as a snake lying in the grass. I ended up giving her green because its a fun colour to give characters who youre meant to distrust. SO MANY TIMES reading zwg i was like "oh maybe mira's chill - oh wait maybe shes not - oh wait maybe shes chill again" and i love her for that honestly. she still gets boobies because i love women but i gave her a fun little long sleeved corset top. the amount of skin she shows directly correlates to the amount you should trust her (i am only half joking.)
i wont talk about diana because honestly the only change i made was giving her a little blue strip at the bottom of her skirt, but i'll talk about maria and carlos together. carlos i kept as a little pink boy because i love him and i love pink and listen its my character design ill do what i want. maria in ztd AND in zwg experiences reverie syndrome, which is connected to the morphogenetic field. her and carlos' designs both incorporate red and blue again- (just realised diana also has red and blue. pretend that was intentional) -to show their connection to the field. yes yes i know its pink but listen its red enough. like aoi, i gave maria and carlos both different iterations of their designs. i'm less sold on carlos', but i did actually like the baggier, heavy designs for maria. with those ones she looks more depressed than she does wearing overalls, so im calling that a win. maria's was the design i was least satisfied with overall, but hey i did these like a year and a half ago and ive gotten much better since then soo.
if youve read this far this is once again a reminder to read zero win game by kayzero on ao3
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Gauche x Grey (Greyche analysis) PART 1
(not me promoting my art as the cover)
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Heyaa So, the purpose of this analysis is just...I don't know I was bored KQKQOWK and I’ve been wanting to make an analysis on these two with manga and anime info (besides personal opinions) for a while now; It's just my take, you don’t need to agree with anything I’ll be saying. I just wanted to talk EDUHUEID- This will have two parts, since the first part is pretty much a non romantic analysis and it already is too much text to deal with EIUDIOEDHDH shit gets serious on the second part. Of course there will be spoilers for anime and manga- (NOTE: I won't go into terms and name meanings since I believe it's already talked a lot so yeah. Sorry if there's any mistakes, I'm just a bro talking about Greyche) WELL TO GET STARTED, BRIEF INFO ABOUT THEM:
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Gauche Adlai, member of the Black Bulls, fallen royal, ex convict, possesses Mirror Magic and has an extreme obsession with his younger sister Marie Adlai. This obsession often leads to comedic or just cringe situations. (or just people starting to hate him in general) I think his "character purpose/lesson" (idk how to put it) is about "trust" and "protect". Especially about learning to trust others and creating bonds with other people, because not everyone will betray him. People aren't the same, and I get the feeling of trauma where you are backstabbed and therefore your defensive levels rise and your trust levels lower. It's fucked up and with his background is even more fucked up. But it’s all a life learning experience on “how he can trust others besides himself (and Marie)”. Well he a tsundere mf MAKQLQOW just joking (or not) I also think his "character purpose/lesson" is about "taking a look at others besides himself (and Marie)". [inserts mirror brigades]
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Grey, true name unknown, member of the Black Bulls, Cinderella backstory, shy and socially awkward that struggles with self-esteem af. But it is understandable do to her back story. She was believed to possess Transformation Magic, but later on Owen called it "Transmutation Magic". Personally I like to call it "Fairy Godmother Type of shit" I think it suits it pretty much. Well, she used to hide her true form and walk around as a big ass scary dude, because she feared to not be accepted by others due to her true appearance and so on, so she chose/embraced that appearance because it maybe reflects on how she sees herself after all. I think her "character purpose/lesson" is like about overcoming her insecurities and actually let herself see her true self for what she truly is and not what her fears, her abusive family and insecurities showed/show her to be. Basically "taking a better look at herself".
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I think both of them have their issues just so rooted since they were younger and that's why it's so current on them. Gauche's obsession and trust issues and Grey's terrible self-esteem and lack of confidence. Both MIRROR (hehehe) their "character purpose/lesson": Gauche needs to "take a better look at others besides himself" and Grey needs to "take a better look at herself"; Besides of course how ironic it is for Gauche to have Mirror Magic and Grey having a complete messed up pov of herself. I can see both trying to be the best versions of themselves. Grey always trying to improve, and Gauche working on his rude behavior and actually showing to trust and protecting others. And of course they pretty much mirror each other in moods. So, before talking about their moments of this first part, I just wanna say: 1) I'mma cover their moments but I won't do a complilation of all their frames together just... breathing side to side. I do want to state that they are framed together A LOT so keep that just in mind; 2) I also wanna say that I have a little theory that Gauche might have ironically self esteem issues too (not so high like Grey but there's something sus there). Like he seems conscious of his attitudes and on how he is a bastard that “shouldn’t even be saved” by his friends. Like he seems to feel guilty about it idk. Besides that, something caught me and it is probably nothing BUT he states that he has been hiding his left eye before he used the mirror tool for the first time and I can't stop thinking that he finds it creepy idk why. Also I wonder the story behind that mirror tool. 3) And finally about their Grimoires, I do see the mirror detail on Grey's but Gauche's, I don't see at all that theory where it is a "wrapped present" or something like that. I don't have a firm opinion on what his Grimoire detail might symbolize but I think both are mirrors, Grey's has no reflection and Gauche's has. But I’m not really sure.
WELL NOW LET'S BEGIN
Before the Seabed Temple arc, I don’t think there’s something relevant at all to be talked between them as that Grey’s true form wasn’t even revealed yet. If I'm wrong and something relevant happened comment on it please iujiorfjrf- However at the Seabed Temple arc:
(Chapter 66) I think their fight agaisnt Zarick (the aftermatch) is really funny and showed good dynamic and partnership between them even if Gauche ordered around. A funny first actual interaction to show us DEHUDHE Also thanks Grey for giving us goofy Gauche.
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Also I love how Grey is willing to kill UDEIIDHIUED YES SIR LET'S DO IT The piggyback ride is also iconic Okay now the highlight that is "actually relevant", the compliment and the infamous "Gauche blushed" "He nosebleed before pulling the picture" and yara yara
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Well, Gauche compliments Grey's magic which makes Grey go doki doki, since she probably didn't get complimented at all before. She of course took to heart that compliment to her magic, but since it came from Gauche (due to all the backstory where he is envolved) she takes it even more to heart. Also It's funny whenever Gauche is sincere he looks away from everyone udieuduh I just wanted to comment on that because same.
Well, the transformation starts to go off, Gauche believed Grey was just that big ass scary dude walking around, and then PUFF Grey's true form revealed.
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Truly I don't think Gauche either blushed or nosebleed at her before pulling the picture. idk how debatable is that but to me he just didn't. And it is okay HIEUDHIUEHD. If he pulled the picture as an excuse? I don't know, I don't believe it either... only when I see it. I think it was too early for something and well Charmy comments on how he isn't looking at Grey at all. At this early point in the story not even Grey wanted Gauche (or anyone really) to look at all at her as she says (or admits to herself) later on. So I think it's pretty much "balanced" for something in it's early stages?
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If it matters he was at least listening to the conversation but that still doesn't say anything at all (at least to me), it's sus of him caring enough to listen? A bit, but mf was right there so yeah it would be natural for him to hear. I just think they were still building up just partnership, and it's totally fine. If you disagree and Gauche showed interest, it's fine too <3 After that in the anime they are there, but it's not relevant at all. And for this arc is basically it. At the Royal Knights Arc, during the exam in the anime, they are pretty much just there or framed besides each other but that's pretty much it, honestly they play a bigger part later on. But I felt like mentioning.
(Chapter 138) We are now taking a look at the AWKWARD TRIAD
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Again it's all about more partnership rather than any romance or such between them. And of course partnership is impoortant as fuck too. Which is nice to me see that partnership before anything else, sorry if I like the slowest of the slowburns. Well Gordon and Grey struggle to well… socialize as they are the three "equality quiet friends" (As Gordon refers it, but to me they are just the AWKWARD TRIAD). In Grey's anxious pov, she states how she should try to be more herself since her comrades see her as one of them. Then she says in a smaller speech that "Even Gauche" complimented her, and that's basically an encoragement for her to try to be herself since even THAT STONE HEARTED GUY complimented her DIUEDHIUHDIHE kidding Since Gauche is rude and has a defensive posture towards everyone in general it is kind of a "reassurance" for her that if even him said something nice, then it must be okay. Grey pretty much sees a good side to Gauche despite his behaviour that himself sees as something bastard of nature.
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Well Grey picks up her big balls and tries to make conversation with Gauche. Gauche is just... Gauche and well it's funny UDEIUDHe
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Then shit is about to get real at the hideout,
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and we all know what happened next. Gauche won't be playing anymore after that. also I wanted to state that
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Mf just didn't went to bathroom through the whole thing UEDUDIU sad ;-;
(Chapters 139-140) So shit breaks out at the hideout and we have the awkward triad working together. We have just mainly small Greyche moments of them. Like the fact that (as we knew) Grey took to heart what Gauche said and that made her learn really quickly another spell. (It took her 5 years to learn her first one) And so on, I also think (I hope I'm not mistaken) that in the anime they talk at the same time a few times but I'm not sure, however it's just funny nothing really OMG.
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also this is also funny:
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(Chapter 141) We have Gauche encouraging Grey. She is of course doubtfull she can transform something big as that salamander and Gauche reasures her that it will be fine and they look at each other. I was going to say "He tells her to look at him" but "they looked at each other" sounds more meaningful.
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aaah the brigades. We have one of the first Grey Mirrors Brigades, since he seems to mirror brigade her a lot through the story. I feel like I've seen it 20 times which I know i didn't but it's the feeling. Which in strategic purposes it's great and all but this is a ship analysis so SUS
and that's pretty much it for this arc Elf Reincarnation Arc:
(Chapter 149)
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I just wanna comment this small detail. On how sus it is to put Grey there in frame. Not to say that it means a lot because to me things weren't really romantic until the timeskip, but it's just sus. And I wanted to comment on that. Doesn't make sense at all to include her if it wasn't something to become sus. Maybe Grey was framed there just because, but it wasn't necessary at all specially since Gordon would look more likely to be framed there at that distance. It's just sus, it bothered me while reading IDEIUHDEIUDH. I WAS VENTING
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BUT HEY
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THEIR FIRST KISS UHDEUHDH It's just so funny to me also sus that he should have hit Gordon's forehead SINCE HE WAS IN HIS FACE, but hey here's their first kiss. Thanks for stepping back Gordon, you are a true bro.
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Well moving on (and yes I'm not talking about the fight at all because well sure Grey was fighting for him like everyone else and she didn't want to lose any of her friends) Here's the thing, where Gauche thinks of himself as a little bitch that should be left behind. And despite that they still consider him basically family, and of course despite not being shown, we know Grey still sees a good side to him too.
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and next, the main panel that makes me say that his "character purpose/lesson" is to look at others, especially those 3. I find it meaningful Asta saying "Look at us" since "Look at me" is Gauche's line.
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Well for that arc it's basically all, after the last thing mentioned they are just framed side to side.
However when they return, I DO KNOW the Return episode, is filler but I really wanted to comment on how Grey called Gauche a wall for her to hide EDIUDHEIUHD And he took it personally IDHIUEHD
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Okay MOVING ON For the last part of this first part of the analysis
(Chapter 223) Well Yami implied them all are friends or get along at least, (I know if I don't mention it somebody might point it out) On the anime, Gauche comments on things Grey says like the fact that she is feeling overwhelmed at the thought of being cursed by someone she doesn't know, but focusing of the "person she doesn't know "part and he is all like "THE PART OF BEING FUCKING CURSED DOESN'T SCARE YOU?" Now at Gordon's House Gate, Grey clings to Gauche and he doesn't seem to be comfortable at all, but well it doesn't matter since later on it's just another day for him EUDEdh And Grey clings and hides behind him whenever she needs. I like the fact that in the anime Asta looks at them all like "What the fuck is going on here?", you can still see him looking at them in the manga but he looks so awkward in the anime IEHDIUEHDH
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Then at the Agrippa family dinner I find it hilarious that Gauche feels awkward (such an achievement) and he whispers to Grey telling her to say something, like she would even talk UDEIDHEUHD on the first place EIDIHE well at least in the anime he took care of the weird shit Gordon's sister gave Grey.
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Well here's a cute panel
WELL GUYS we've reached the end of the first part. The second part will include actually more analysing on things since shit starts to get serious from now on. I wanted to look at things from the early stages and since they are a side ship there's not that much to look at before what's upcoming so yeah. (I mean there's A LOT to look at since they are framed a lot together, but actual things happening it a bit less on this part at least) NEXT UP -Episode 150 -Rest of the storyline until chapter 368 -The Movie -Probably me just rambling about them
I hope you liked this It's just for fun <3
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