Hey, I just dicovered you about two weeks ago, ish, I was wondering; do you ever have a moment where you feel like maybe Lashton isn't together? I have had a lot of moments of doubt, with certain ships and fandoms, and was wondering if anyone else has.
At the beginning of when I became aware of them and I was doing research (because I definitely say people should think for themselves and not just accept things, ask questions of life!), but there was a point where I flipped to a complete 100% of believing they are real. The rings are undeniable, for instance. The standard closeting 101 patterns going on (Hello Modest!). How much the females around them being promoted in the bearding/PR way. The women being the opposite personalities and have attacked the very fandom that 5sos have top priority of and loves. The way they are towards each other, the way it’s not just looks. It’s got partners vibes, and aspects that straight bffs aren’t towards each other. The intensity of Ash supporting, promoting, posting about, love messages to, etc. The expensive gifts (custom leather jackets) of which there’s never been, as far as we know, for either Cal or Michael. The difference Ash is towards Luke compared to the other guys, as well as how Luke is towards Ash. They both hold each other at such a high regard and find each other the true bees knees. Luke finds Ash the funniest person on the planet, even in instances where he does/says are mildly funny. Refer to the post I just did of them during the Amazon Music and the Spilling the Quarrantea livestreams. Example. when Michael had no problem with just willynily searching Luke smut fanfic on Wattpad versus Ash trying to make Luke feel better by trying to make Luke laugh through making up a light hearted entertaining story of his own of Cal. Ash and Luke partnering up together against the other guys, or being in their own world. The moment where Ash agrees to Luke about the movement they did to a nonexistent Try Hard mv (it’s like the moment where Louis Tomlinson just agrees when Harry Styles says some weird line about the ocean waves). The amount of ig and twitter posts that really radiate a love that’s not just bffs. Ash made a post saying Luke is “his Elvis Presley” with a really sweet pic of Luke laying down cutely on a bed and Ash sitting next to him. The way they were when Luke moved in with him. Yes, they were working on themselves but they were acting like boyfriends. Watch the YouTube vids of Lashton moments. Watch interviews and focus on how they are towards each other. The writing of songs about being fake, only loving at night, direct references towards one another. During the soundcheck I attended this year, when a fan yelled out for Luke to marry Sierra during the time off from tour, it’s the way responded deflated was such a raw response, so loud to me. The way Luke gets when ppl bring up Sierra to him compared to how he consistently is with Ash, it’s intensely different. Again, when Luke needed someone supportive, he ran to live with Ash. He’s his home.
There’s just so much… I could go on for hours. I’ll stop for now though.
Summary: Since a wealthy businessman found his pelt while he was relaxing on a beach several years ago, Calum's done his best to make the most of his new life. He hasn't been able to like his wife or their home or their neighbours, but he's surviving, at least. Unbeknownst to him, rumours of what his father-in-law did have spread and a shady group of traveling magicians have taken interest in his situation.
Genre: Fantasy
Relationships: Malum, Lashton
Tags and Warnings: Graphic Depictions of Violence, Rape/Non-Con, Selkies, Magic, Supernatural Elements, Forced Marriage, Body Horror, Angst, Serial Killers, Domestic Violence, Blood and Gore, Torture, Serial Killers
thank you so much !! xxLISTEN !!! this was a challenge. I was STRUGGLING. Also I made this into a bde/dom vibes Ash thing because I feel like that’s the vibe you were going for (at least I hope so)Look at my other masterposts HERE
alright starting off with THE ULTIMATE Daddy pic of Ashton, fight me on this ok. This is in my absolute top 10 pics of him forever and always
continuing right along with a recent one that killed me and made me think all sorts of things that I shouldn’t be thinking of in public
whoever made this is a fucking blessing. this picture FUCKS ME UP FAM
on the topic of fuck me up …have some Lashton for your unholy thoughts
ah yes we love a powerful King on his throne DEM BICEPS THOUGH
I’m honestly still recovering from this … I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: Ashton in a suit is a whole ass fucking thing and he looks so dom here B Y E
another recent one that’s just straight up RUDE. He could fuck me up ok thank you bye
now if this doesn’t scream BDE and Daddy then you need to get yourself checked ….
and now the gif that I immediately thought of when I read this request… HOLY FUCKING SHIT LOOK AT HIM.
Credits: Ashton, Michael, Alex Gaskarth, John Feldmann
LYRIC ANALYSIS
You walked in
Everyone was asking for your name -Luke had garnered a bit of early celebrity online as he was known for posting covers of songs from his bedroom to his own youtube channel. Michael had known about it from being at the same school. Ash, being a drummer who played local gigs, had known from being in the local musician network and was an early subscriber to Luke’s channel before he was in the band.
You just smiled
And told them "trouble"
My head spins -feels confused or dizzy by this person
I'm pressed against the wall -being “against the wall” is to have limited options of actions
Just watching your every move -in awe of this person so much he can’t approach this person, just study them.
You're way too cool -Ash had been in a few bands before meeting the 5sos guys and was frustrated by those not becoming more serious than they ended up. And again, Luke had already attracted a bunch of attention on his YouTube.
And you're coming this way, coming this way -I think there’s a double meaning to this line. It could literally be Ash and Luke finally meeting (of which they’ve told the story of Ash rescuing Luke from bullying many times). It could also be referencing, Ash seizing the opportunity when he was approached to join the band (was to become 5sos). It meant Luke and Ash were brought closer together aka into each other’s lives.
How did we end up talking in the first place -Reflecting back on how they made connection
You said you liked my Cobain shirt -Ash has worn multiple Nirvana shirts (Kurt Cobain was the frontman), and Ash has since even covered “Heart Shaped Box” for his Superbloom live show.
Now we're walking back to your place
You're telling me how you love that song
About living on a prayer - reference to Bon Jovi’s song “Livin’ on a Prayer”, one of Luke’s most favorite bands, “onion” shirt, Luke has said in an interview it's his karaoke song. Luke included Jon into the #TeethChallenge, Luke chose “You Give Love A Bad Name” by JBV as a song they would cover during an interview. The 1986 rock anthem is the story of Tommy and Gina, a working class couple who struggle to make ends meet and vow to "hold on to what we've got."
I'm pretty sure that we're halfway there -double meaning of physical distance to his house, and reference to the lyric of “Livin’ on a Prayer”.
And when I wake up next to you I wonder how
How did we end up here
How did we end up, how did we end up here
Next day out
Everybody thought you were so insane
'Cause you were so far out of my league -Luke’s bit of local youtube celebrity for his doing guitar covers of songs, and Ash being so enamored by him.
My friends say I should lock you down
Before you figure me out and you run away -feeling intimidated about how wonderful Luke is in his eyes that Ash feels a bit of a fraud. (This is interesting because Luke has this same theme show up on his own solo album).
But you don't and you won't as you kiss me - The connection they have is so strong.
And you tell me that you're here to stay (here to stay) -Luke says he wants to be with him. The feelings are mutual.
How did we end up talking in the first place
You said you liked my Cobain shirt
Now we're walking back to your place
You're telling me how you love that song
About living on a prayer
I'm pretty sure that we're halfway there
And when I wake up next to you I wonder how
How did we end up here
Call me lucky 'cause in the end
I'm a six and she's a ten -first use of a gendered pronoun, “she-ing” is using the pronouns of a heterosexual partner when covering a closeted relationship, there’s proof that 5sos switch around pronouns (examples: Luke let it slip that “She Looks So Perfect” was originally “You Look So Perfect”, Luke has called Ash his girlfriend). He’s thinking much more highly of this partner (Ash thinks so highly of Luke that to this day he will go out of his way to say beautiful things about him in interviews. (Example: During Superbloom promo interview, he waxed poetic talking about how Luke is “one of the best singers in pop since fucking forever”, “one of my favorite singers”, when they met, blessed to be in a band with him, never wants to sing over him, etc etc etc.)
She's so fit, I'm insecure -“fit” is slang for “gorgeous” in the UK (5sos have spent a lot of time in the UK songwriting and touring, moved to London from Australia)
But she keeps coming back for more (more) -no matter what Ash thinks about himself “insecure”, Luke still stays by him “keeps coming back”.
you can say it means nothing. Like 'ugh they just didn't say it and all, don't make a drama!' however, guys, they could’ve said just a word “single” as Malum said.
nevertheless, they did not! okay, then I can assume Luke and Ash are not single, yeah, coz they’ve already had each other... They're dating each other. Yes.
Throwback. Oh, you're so cool boys. So. cool. Ashton looks serious though and it's killing me.
SUCH A GOOD DAY. SUCH A GOOD FREAKING DAY FOR THEM! Tongue back in your mouth Luke, or so help me. And can I just say that Ashton's Led Zeppelin shirt might be my favorite? As in I want it.
What are you doing Ashton? What. Are. You. Doing? And where are your hands, Lucas? Nobody touch me.
I can't even talk about this because:
A) Ashton is playing the guitar and that's the hottest thing I've seen in my life aside from when he's drumming.
B) MUSCLES
C) Luke's HAIR AND COLLARBONES
This may or may not be my laptop background, courtesy of the fabulous Liz Hemmings.
Luke's staring into my soul. I still really like that fedora on Ash
I was really emotional about this entire day. Luke in plaid does things to me. Oh look, they're doing the rock finger sign thing together.
FRAT BROTHERS, YOU CANNOT CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE.
They look like brothers. I need 500 years to recover from this.
Okay, now a few gifs.
FRICKING LOOK AT THEM, LOOK. AT. THEM. Ashton is so sweaty, somebody hit me. And Luke in plaid is always an excellent sight.
Oh, here's HELL again in GIF FORM NOW. LISTEN, WE DO NOT SPEAK OF THIS DAY FOR A REASON. No, I didn't need air to breathe, you can just go ahead and knock it right out of my lungs again.
Hi! So I'm kinda new into the lashton ship so I was wondering if you had like an analysis or a link to one or could tell me a bit about it? Thanks! xx
Hello dear!!
Well, there is quite a lot to know about it, so I will give you a brief handing of my own and I’ll link you to some masterposts/analyses and whatnot.
So, originally, as I’m guessing you already might know. Michael and Calum were the first best friends and then Luke came along into the mix, and then finally Ashton.
Basically, it is obvious that, although some may argue, Calum and Michael are closer to each other than they are to the other two boys in the band, most likely because #10yearsofMalum (they’ve been friends for almost ever). So, my interpretation is that because of Malum’s closeness, perhaps that pushed Luke and Ashton to become closer together and whatnot.
I mean, they were pretty tight to the other two, but the Malum friendship is and has been very very very strong and even with Luke and Ashton there, nothing can really come between it.
So Lashton takes a merge together, especially as the band picks up and they have to go everywhere with one another. But I believe it was really around summer of 2013 during the TMH tour that the relationship really started to pick up the more romantic attitude, as in, they might be deciding to get serious.
There are some fetus instances in which Lashton has been more cuddly or snuggly than they should, which brings us to this:
Which can be found here
This is the moment where I personally believe they “fell in love” or whatever you would like to be known as the time where the more than just friends feelings started.
They just stop singing almost and keep staring until the laughing happens. And after this, you must take note, is when more and more of the romantic-esque moments happened between them during twitcams and videos and all of that.
Here is the notorious cuddle!cam moment.
On another personal note, it was really Ashton that seemed to have fallen for Luke first. In the links below, you can find the tweets and posts from the band and Lashton regarding the next few statements.
The 5sos account on twitter tweeted awhile back that “Ashton loves taking pictures and videos of Luke” which he does do alot of. For instance, this is a recent selfie Ashton posted on his Instagram account if he and Luke waking up in the morning with #sleepy
Then there’s the Lashton dates, which the beautiful Summer has been kind enough to post. (You can find it in the links below). Honestly, I can’t even name a time where Luke went out with Calum or Michael on a non-songwriting or something of the sort outing. It’s always those two, and they never take pictures of the moments themselves, it is only fans or people that know of them that snap the pictures and post them.
We did have one instance in which they were having dinner or something together and Luke posted this picture with “Candlelight date with the babe #cantwaittogetupstairs’ as the caption on Twitter, before quickly deleting it. The question is though, why would they?
Then there’s the staring and the jealousy, my favorites. Those two must spend more time staring at each other then they do breathing. Here are a few examples:
Here’s the lip staring, which is the biggest thing Ashton does when talking to and associating himself with Luke.
Luke likes to make up stories in his head about he and Ashton while staring at Ashton.
Also, the lip stares again.
Refer below to Luke’s lip bites while Ashton talks.
But the jealousy, though. I’m not sure if you’ve seen the two interviews where Luke says he would date Calum if he had to pick anyone in the band. In the first one, Ashton gets very jealous and speaks up about it and it was sparking so many new feelings and ideas in the Lashton segment of the 5sosfam. The second one, he gives Luke a knowing look.
Also, there is another instance in which Luke said he would try to get a date with a male if he was a girl, and looks over at Ashton and Calum’s laughs at the whole thing.
Yet another topic is often how Luke uses Calum to make Ashton jealous, but that deserves it’s own post because it is so vast. But in short, their relationship stemmed first from being the two “New friends”, and then the flirty moments and whatnot and the bigger description can be found right here about the growth of the relationship.
But I truly believe it was Ashton who really started feeling more and acting more on his feelings for Luke and that’s why he takes so many pictures and gets so much more jealous all of the time (maybe Luke just doesn’t show it as much because he’s quieter) but I seriously believe that he was the one who started the flirting and outings and getting Luke to be with him more often.
I really hope this has helped. I could go on and on forever, but I’ve got so many links to help! Also, make sure you read the Relationship Phases post from above, because it is very important into realizing how the relationship may have started and how it seems to work.
WHY DO LUKE AND ASHTON FIND IT NECESSARY TO FREQUENTLY STARE LONGINGLY AT EACH OTHER I DO NOT UNDERSTAND ME NO COMPREHEND
lu kE
LUKE HONEY YOU'RE STARING
WHY DO YOU LOOK SO NEEdY
seriOUSLY LUKE CLOSE YOUR MOUTH YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE TRYNA CATCH FLIES OR SOME SHIT also ashton is totally onto him he's probably like bitch i know ur staring
and now luke is like shit play it cool play it fucking cool look away loOK AWAY
and here we have luke casually biting his lip staring at ashton likes he's some kind of fucking mythical creature like okay then
but we also know that ashton likes to do his fair share of staring oh yes its not just luke who needs to look into his staring problem
LIKE
THEY ARE STOOD SO CLOSE AND ASHTON LOOKS LIKE HE'S SWALLOWING A FREAKING TENNIS BALL OR SOMETHING AND JUST HAS THIS LOOK IN HIS EYE
okay then
ashton why are you doing that thing with ur lips stop
wHy
conclusion: luke and ashton like staring at each other and its really not fair and i need to get a life
Hi! I recently started following you, and really need to know which songs have Luke and Ashton written about each other, if you have a tag in which you have spoken about it I'd be happy to read it or if you know where I could find this info? I'm especially interested in the last few albums.
First, thanks for the follow and nice to meet you!
The most blatantly Ash and Luke is majority of the “Youngblood” album. They did songwriting trips to Sweden, without the other two guys who flew over later on, to work on learning about songwriting.
To help figure out what songs could be them, I would greatly suggest if you haven’t done so already, to start listening to the albums in order one by one, while paying attention to who are credited as songwriters and taking into account what was going on with the band around each time. (Producers are included in songwriting credits, so very often you can disregard them, as it’s usually a credit for effecting the overall music sound of the song)
Each album is typically written about a year before it’s released so keep that in mind.
Their story is weaved throughout each album. Keep in mind that pronouns used are pretty meaningless (Luke has actually called Ash his “girlfriend” while he’s sitting on his lap in an interview. Closeted gay songwriters accept that they have to use heterosexual pronouns for love interests, and the only time it actually means anything is when it’s to communicate a referring to a different person within the song (ie. sometimes switching from a “you” to a “she” could be two separate people). For instance, “She Looks So Perfect”, the “you” and “she” are the same person. The lyrics to the song are genderless but the title has “she”, the demo version was “You Look So Perfect”, but for the song “Thin White Lies” there’s a line where it switches from the “you” to a “she” and it actually means a difference (“But she says she loves me, she don’t show it”).
If you use my lyric analysis tag, I’ve gone through a few songs line by line or made observations. For example, in Luke’s solo song “Comedown”, the reference to Camellia Street that’s being narratively sold as a street in LA where he met Sierra, is actually a street in Western Sydney where the guys are from. And Sierra is not from Australia.
Pay attention to themes that are common in closeted relationships and one’s own personal journey. Loving only at night time, hiding, pretending, feeling like you are different with this person, rainbows and colors, loving someone but forces cause them to fight with each other, feeling like the odd one out or different or like you’re wrong for feeling/loving, references that connect with one another (example, Ash referencing Luke’s favorite band Bon Jovi in “End Up Here”), needing to forgive or asking for forgiveness from the other person for what’s going on (where they’ve been ie with fake gfs or having to deal with the crap that lgbt relationships esp as celebrities are subjected to), LYING and keeping secrets (closeted lgbt people do a lot of lying out of survival and self-preservation and if they are still on their journey of accepting themself).
I don’t have a list created yet of specific songs, but hopefully looking at my lyric analysis tag and listening to their songs it helps you get a good sense to piece together their story they’re trying to tell.
Something that stands out is the way there’s a story of meeting as kids, falling in love, processing and navigating being in love, the dynamics of a relationship, and then looking back and processing who they are as individuals as well as a couple.
I hope this has helped. Let me know if you have any more questions or if you perhaps pick up on something and you want to discuss it. I’m always interested in things I might not have picked up on!
Hi, what year do you think Ash and Luke got together? Like, a rough timeline, specifically. I've seen different people say different things (some say 2014, some 2017/2018, some say it was an on/off thing, etc.) This is not to say that others are wrong in their assumptions; since no one but a few people really know the exact timeline, but just wondering how you see it.
The very very insanely abbreviated answer, imho, is that they were smitten with each other right away. Especially how their meeting was Ash rushing to Luke's rescue from bullies. I think Ash had been watching his YouTube videos then showed up at the gig at the cinema, when Luke and Michael were playing (as "Stuck In Reverse"). Then throughout the years they realized that they really did love each other in that way. But then since they were managed by Modest and subjected to closeting (which is why disagreement about when they got together exists). If you look back at how they were all throughout the years, Ash and Luke were very flirty and affectionate. Sure, they were all affectionate with each other, but something was different between the two of them.
It's difficult also to pinpoint it because they have been on tour so much which counts towards time they are literally sleeping in beds next to each other every night. Remember the keek Ash posted where Luke tells him to get into bed with him, then Ash said he was "going to sleep with... next to Luke" (like there's an actual difference) then gives a cute grin?
I think it definitely got the most intense at the beginning of the creation of Youngblood songwriting trip to Sweden (in 2016/2017) and when they lived together (2017-2018). A portion of the fandom thought they were going to come out when Luke moved in with Ash. Luke got Petunia when he was living with Ash. A few days after they went on social media to announce they were living together (ig live and twitter), the Australian Marriage Equality twitter tweeted at Ash for a follow so that they could send him a DM. Luke and Ash follow that account, along with Luke's mom. Neither Cal nor Michael follow them.
Since then its just been the continuation of Modest pushing through closeting 101 techniques. They made Luke move out and get his own place. Sierra came into the picture (narratively trying to say she calmed him down from his partying ways, which is a total lie since it was during the time he lived with Ash is when that happened. They both had worked on themselves alongside each other.Note: she was an XFactor contestant.) Ash was paired up with Kaykay. Crystal, Michael's other half, has a background in brand strategy/talent management, arranged Ash and Luke with women. Nights out on the town would consist of the girls partying with each other, while the guys were there to give them clout but still be able to be around each other.
All along the way Luke and Ash have tried to fight against things as much as they can. They've gotten more and more serious over time. Luke goes over to Ash's house when he's not having to stunt (take pics/vids with her). This is also why it's added benefit of being on tour. They get to be with each other every day/night. They get to go on shopping trips. (I've looked through so many paparazzi walks and I can't remember when the last time they've been seen publicly out for a walk together. It's usually either of them stunting or Ash with Cal.)
In the end though, love will ultimately win. 🏳️🌈 🫶 💕
Making a timeline is still and forever on my list of things to do. I promise.
It’s in a kind of format that I need to format into a narrative. My ADHD doesn’t like feeling overwhelmed so I keep getting sidetracked to other content.
For instance I was up late last night finishing up taking notes of all the 10 Year podcast on YouTube.
I’ve got a folder of Lashton/5sos stuff I’ve started. Welcome to my life lol