#lesbian book discussion

[lunarharp]

Very important conferences.

#witch hat tag #orufrey #some real serious discussions goin on in this atelier today. dont u doubt it. #agott is the only one who has ever thought about this because she is a 12 year old lesbian and UMM..FRIEND? LIKE FRIEND? IS THAT..LEGAL??? #this is all i drew today because silly things like this take hours lol. at least it's practice for poses -_- #i got the pattern of the girls' dresses wrong but i couldn't be bothered to change halfway through. #don't worry if you're like what is the naakiwan downs. is that name even mentioned in the main manga #ANYWAY i KEEP thinking about what if it's actually banned for professors and watchful eyes to date like that would make a lot of sense. #like maybe it should be banned. SO??? are they just low-key Aware of what the deal is and they're just Putting their feelings aside #until graduation??? take my tassel as an unspoken reminder of how i feel?? living together trial period?? this feels like it's truly it #When we're free to be together........ Sensei loves homophobia parallels without there actually being homophobia #Let's invent reasons why men cant be together. Ummm well whatever. i'm screaming in my head but it's fine. #this will probably form the theme of my orufrey for a while. i've thought of this before but for some reason today it's big for me. #i guess the tassels might not specifically be a part of that since they exchanged them before tower of books #and qifrey made his mysterious decision to be a teacher after that and..well whatever. I need more of backstory and just..everything? #But i also don't mind when vinanna interrupts my wishes with just a chapter of just being really dreamy? I love witch hat?

[nonbinarylesbianherb]

Genuine question, why do a lot of people say Villanelle is a lesbian? I’m currently reading the first book, and I’ve seen the show, she consensually pursues relationships with women AND men in both, unrelated to her work. I understand she may have a preference for women, as well as her love interest is obviously Eve who’s a woman, but that doesnt take away from that fact shes still had relationships with men too. Am I missing something or is it just those people have deep rooted biphobia?

#killing eve #villanelle #killing eve book and show #villanelle and eve #bisexual #lesbian #im confused #sexuality #sexuality discussion #oksana astankova #Oxana Vorontsova #questions

[cuntylittlesalmon]

lmao wait i don’t even know if wanna finish this book now

#just. recognizing that a word has been historically used as a slur and some people may be uncomfortable with it isn’t terf rhetoric 🫣🫣 #what is this fucking gay twitter circa 2018 🥴 #‘well it’s an important word because it includes trans people in my community’ huh? so does lesbian? #it’s like saying dyke isn’t a slur because it’s important to me 🫶 #not liking queer doesn’t make you a transphobe? huh? #maybe romance writers shouldn’t try to include one off jokes about lgbt discourse in your smut books 🫣🫣 cause none of y’all do it well #it’s not Trans Exclsuive Radical Feminisn rhetoric to recognize a historical slur as a slur this is so stupid #*insert that photo of the mom putting toys on the top shelf but it’s me with terf and the child is twitter queers* #you are not equipped enough to have discussions about transmisogyny if you’re using terf to mean ‘gay person i disagree with’ #fucking clown behavior

[oh-dear-so-queer]

Sexual activity between women, which had previously been ignored, glossed over or referred to only in discreet private letters, started to be discussed more widely, and gossip and accusations published. Women lovers of women were called 'tommies' in slang, but the classically educated spoke of 'sapphists' – from the Greek poet Sappho who wrote of her love for women.

"Normal Women: 900 Years of Making History" - Philippa Gregory

#book quote #normal women #philippa gregory #nonfiction #wlw #lesbian #ignored #glossed over #discreet #private letters #discussion #gossip #accusation #tommies #slang #classical education #sapphist #sappho #greek poet

[variousqueerthings]

I’m reading Persistance: All Ways Butch And Femme and lemme tell you it’s doing wonders for everything -- feelings about gender, politics, language, relationships 

every time I think I’ve come at some unknowable concept about myself that nobody could possibly understand and I’m totally alone (or at the very least I’m something new and fragile), reading about other queers makes me understand that actually it’s existed possibly forever and I can calm tf down and stop being so angsty, it’s not fragile at all, it’s years of others living these things into reality!

anyway, us lonelies under 30 (and over 30 too quite probably) who think we’ve reinvented the wheel and nobody could possibly get it, we need to read this sort of stuff to get out of our own heads and to respect where we came from and maybe all the fucking discourse can chill out and we won’t be so afraid of changes and concepts that already exist and have done for a lot of years!

#persistance: all ways butch and femme #queer stuff #queer theory #queer lit #lesbian lit #me like: im overcomplicating it ive gone too far im a fraud #a dyke who came of-age in the 60s: anyway these fag genderqueers i met in the 90s love em couldnt do without em great stuff #also rae spoon i owe you everything #and this discussion i just read in it i need to get their names #about femme through the eyes of masculinity STOP IVE BEEN FEELING THAT WAY (dont stop ofc) #and the new spectrum bit???? wtfwtfwtf i feel like im being inundated with The Lore and im some starry eyed apprentice #whenever i forget i can be like -- is my icon a claude cahun homage for NOTHING?! #it's about context building! it's about history! it's about thinking those threads were spindly but they're strong as anchors or smthin #fuckit im just amazed i cannot properly articulate how amazed i am #ALSO look im not a lesbian/i never came to transness through lesbianism like a lot of my peers (only briefly and it amounted to one bar) #my point being that if you think you can't relate to that title because you think you didn't get to experience that lens #1. read the lesbians generally because they're good for you #2. trust me this book opens some fucking doors (doors I'd been worried were me going too far/werent allowed) #recommend this to all the queers and non-queers alike boys and girls and people who think they're unfathomable #you will be uh... fathomed... as it were #(or not but it's still vital)

[aroaessidhe]

2023 reads // twitter thread      

Wild and Crooked

YA contemporary 

about a girl whose father is in prison for murder, moving back to her hometown

and the son of the murdered man, a boy with cerebral palsy

they unknowingly become friends, until new evidence is found and their small town is thrown into chaos - and they have to find out the truth

lesbian & questioning MCs, no romance,

#Wild and Crooked #aroaessidhe 2023 reads #Leah Thomas #I thought this was really good! #I thought the discussion of disability; poverty; queerness etc was done well (as far as I can tell) #another mc has antisocial personality disorder (iirc?) also #and i liked how it showed him like.....in a positive light. i mean hes just a guy also #we love a lesbian who shaves her head #we love FRIENDSHIP YA #no romance books #no romance #the real reason behind it all maybe felt a little rushed/random at the end? idk #but it’s also kinda like……maybe more realistic than Teen Detectives Discovering The Truth - the truth is actually just. something based on i #info they didn’t know #weird how some reviews say theyre pan and lesbian and others say gay and pan ???? nobody is pan? #they’re both gay by all evidence in the book? he Could be maybe but it’s an oddly specific thing that’s not explicitly in the book

[books-and-green-tea-study]

sapphic academia II

discussing uni plans till 2 am

having her pack books for you for a trip

reading said books on the beach

discussing new topics based on those books

randomly doing a uni entrance exam together

hanging out in the library

trying to figure out kids' books in a language you don't speak

singing operas together

them making tea for you

cross-stitching

still calling her nicknames stolen from sappho

refusing to translate those

"I should be studying"

#sappho #academia #academia aesthetic #student #studyblr #students #dark acadamia aesthetic #dark academia #ancient greek #language #lgbtq #lgbtqplus #book discussion #bisexual #lesbian #asexual #ace

[anonwritersposts]

Sunshine, books, & chai tea ☀️💝

#lgbt #best seller books #bookstagram #books #book discussion #books & libraries #chai latte #starbucks #fave <3 #lesbian #i love these two #they are soulmates #and they were roommates #count your lucky stars #pride month #pansexual #bisexual #books and reading #current read #reading #new books #book tumblr #book aesthetic #bookblr #nature #sunlight #sunshine #fuck you anxiety

[aidenwaites]

I havent read the locked tomb yet but I feel like maybe the advertising does it a disservice

#intriguing artwork and discussion that ive seen pass by on my dash did more to convince me to read it than #Lesbian Necromancers In Space!!!! repeated a million times ever did #ANYWAY i finally ordered the first book

[meridaism]

I don't know why the cishets are so convinced Meridach is proof of Merida not being an aroace lesbian anymore. Or, in their words, “Merida is no longer a queer icon.” 1. aromantics and asexuals can still very much experience romantic or sexual attraction because both labels are indeed spectrums. Merida, seeing as how she didn't fall in love with Feradach right away but instead needed time to develop a genuine emotional relationship/attraction towards him, is still on the aroace spectrum, specifically she is demiromantic and demisexual. 2. Bestie you're straight AND cis, you don't have the right to dictate whether or not a character is for/represents identities and sexualities of the lgbtq+ community or not???

THIS. Like, as an aroace lesbian I fail to see how aros, aces, or lesbians have “lost” Merida whatsoever when it comes to Meridach. Who cares about what Disney interprets as str8?? Who cares about what the cishet readers interpret as str8?? That literally does not matter here based on the literal fact that:

1. Feradach is a genderless entity made of just barely air only inhabiting human bodies, and this is stated throughout the book.

2. Merida tells him point blank that yeah he looks like a man but she doesn't care what appearance he takes because she doesn't see Feradach as a man or as any specific gender. She sees him for his kindness and that is still him no matter what physical form he takes. She doesn't love him for his appearance, she loves him for who he is internally: the odd entity made of barely air who is free and loving, with no face, no body, no eyes, no mouth, and no gender, just an entity who loves the world, humanity, and her. That is who she loves. This is literally in the book?? She's canonically nblw, what else do they want??

Those cishets swear up and down that Merida is now “str8” but show me where she expressed any attraction towards men throughout the entirety of the book. I'll wait. You can't count that miniscule paragraph of Merida being aesthetically attracted to this young boy when she was a young girl because she quickly grew out of that AND it then followed that up by saying she never entertained the idea of being with a man nor “finding the right one” someday because she knew they'd all bore her, anger her, and fail to give her what she needed eventually. You can't use Feradach because he is literally not a cisgender male just because he's borrowing the body of a man for a short period of time and uses he/him pronouns??

Using a lesbian’s explanation of literally growing out of her comphet as a means to try to prove she's somehow str8 vs. being transphobic and enbyphobic towards her nonbinary love interest as a means to try to prove she's str8,, my brother in christ the cishets have indeed lost it.

Anyways, Feradach is canonically nonbinary and Merida is canonically an aroace nblw whilst harbouring no romantic nor sexual attraction towards men and simultaneously harbours romantic and physical attraction towards women (i.e. Merida’s internal character playlist showcasing love songs towards women and female-aligned people and Merida’s physical attraction towards Leezie [literally describing her as “pretty” from Merida’s perspective at least over 20 times] in “Bravely.”) By literal definition alone, MERIDA IS A LESBIAN.

#merida #brave (2012) #bravely (2022) #disney books #disney #pixar #maggie stiefvater #pixar brave #disney brave #bravely spoilers #canon lesbian merida #lesbianism #lgbtq representation #lgbtq+ discussions #canon nonbinary character #nonbinary #canon lesbian character #f/m merida shippers and m//rricup shippers don't touch this post leave her alone she's a lesbian #lesbian princess #lesbian

[merp-blerp]

Just some parallels I noticed so far 😉

#the garden cinematic universe??? the gcu??? #just got done with chapter one #might take a break to discuss with the wall #annie on my mind #the year they burned the books #live read #nancy garden #lesbians #lesbian #tytbtb live read

[megarywrites]

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#in the tags because i don’t want to make a whole post but if you have thoughts feel free to reply #n e ways #the discourse going around rn about summaries and tropes is interesting and something i’ve thought a lot about #one thing i’m pretty adamantly against is the idea of my books being marketed as q***r rep (hate the q word just in general #but that’s beside the point rn lol) #like if all anyone could say about any of my books is ‘it’s a q***r friends to lovers romance with POC!!!’ like…… #that genuinely says nothing #like?? i’m a lesbian ofc i’m gonna have gay characters? with gay romances??? and having a diverse cast is also a given??? #why is it so hard to talk about the plot of the book? #i get that summaries are hard to write sometimes but skfjskfjd i'm not picking up a book based on vibes and tropes alone andnsk #like take Seafoam for instance #the aforementioned ’summary’ could technically apply to it #but like it doesn’t prepare you for the actual meat of the story #which is a discussion of familial bonds and trauma and female rage and grief and fighting back against ingrained societal misogyny #it would also apply to the next book on the docket; which leans more toward self-discovery and acceptance and becoming confident in #who you are and your general role in society (from four different povs) #there’s so much more to a book than the extreme watered down ‘this book has diversity isn’t that neat!!!’ angle that marketing is now #and if that’s all an author and their audience has to say about the book then……….yikes tbh

[mejomonster]

U ever write and ur like wow a queer person definitely wrote this it is impossible to detach the fact I'm queer from this piece of writing. Well that's fun

#rant #i consider it a positive #but yeah like. i have a bunch of original plots i want to eventually write out as stories #and like. i thought ok ill start with a girl/guy romance since like. my parents might want to read my first finished story #and i love them and im out to tjem and they accept me at pride. but its always a glass closet in a way. they definitely avoid the topic of #who i like. unless im in a relationship specifically or discussing mu own future marriage. #so like a big gay for gay huge epic romance as the first book i shove at tjem is a convo i dont think i expect to have #so whatever i pick one of my guy/girl stories in this original plot story universe. well. im bi #guess how many characters are bi in this bitch. ill give u a hint. anyone wirj any iota #of romantic interest in someone is already explicitly bi. sorry parents but when u read this #u will be smacked over the head by bi being real and remembering ur kid is bi #not a single straight character in this story. assuming anyone straight is fucking impossibimpossible #its clear a queer person wrote this book #oh rodenberry when u said in the future ppl wont care about gender and sexuality limits and lovr is lovr uvu #babey i made itty #i also think like. the current demands ppl make of authors to out themselves. is incredibly invasive like #an authors work generally will speak for itself. and on the flip side #if a lesbian writes a story thats super heteronormativr that can still happen like. identity doesnt equal a perfect (or imperfect) novel #on a semi lighter note. im demiromantic and i feel like #even if i dont intend to that it probably spills into how i write romances and friendships #even tho i like to think i can write ppl who fall in love fasr sjsjdsjsjdj lol

[kkoraki]

someone just tried the “well nothing I read/watch has trans characters in it so it’s not realistic to expect it anywhere” line on me

#this line shows your ass so bad when the work being discussed is a SF/F book #you know there was this little book that not many people have heard of #that won some of the same awards the series we’re currently discussing has been nominated for #in 1970 #just a littel book. a smol little book. it was called The Left Hand of Darkness #anyway #that's without even bringing the ancillary series into the conversation #self #discourse / #wow this Super Adult Not A YA Book with Adult Butch Lesbian Rep for Adults Only has fewer trans characters than an actual childrens cartoon #i think it's totally within creators' rights not to put [whatever the fuck identity] characters in their works #but if that's the case the fans need to own it

[aroaessidhe]

2022 reads // twitter thread

Late To The Party

YA contemporary

A quiet lesbian who hasn't had any "teen experiences" is dragged to a party with her friends, and runs into a popular boy kissing another boy.

he helps her break out of her shell as they become friends - which she keeps a secret from old friends

#Late To The Party #aroaessidhe 2022 reads #this is fine #mc is too mean to her friends lmao they WERE trying to ask her about herself #then again the quiet-artist-type-who's-judgemental-and-self-centred is real LMAO #also she feels like an artist written by someone who is not an artist lmao #definitely one of those books that feels like it was trying every possible way to say lesbian without saying the word lesbian #i would have liked some anti-amatonormativity discussion. like you're fucking teenagers you don't NEED to kiss someone #and have a relationship and all that....it's perfectly fine to not experience these straight away. if you push it you'll probably regret thi #things #like it kinda goes into 'you don't need to experience drinking/parties/teen things to be a teen' but not the relationship stuff

[oh-dear-so-queer]

Conservative MP John Moore-Brabazon instructed ignoring lesbians: 'Leave them entirely alone, not notice them, not advertise them. That is the method that has been adopted in England for many hundred years.' MPs agreed that sex between women was too dreadful to describe and there was total official silence on women loving women even when other sexual acts were openly discussed.

"Normal Women: 900 Years of Making History" - Philippa Gregory

#book quote #normal women #philippa gregory #nonfiction #conservative #member of parliament #john moore brabazon #ignorance is bliss #lesbian #england #20s #1920s #20th century #dreadful #silence #wlw #discussion