#nielan thoughts

[guqin-and-flute]

I keep thinking about the fact that Wangji gets to actually indulge in the Bargaining stage of grief, the ones where you say 'I will never do __ again, if only they come back'. He gets to enact all those 'if's, all those 'I should have's when his Wei Ying comes back.

#And I keep thinking about how when Xichen sees Mingjue rise up sewn back together and vengeful how he probably thought 'Not like this' #wangxian #my stuff #text #lwj #nielan #secretly in the tags

[lgbtlunaverse]

I cannot stress enough how MINOR of a petpeeve this is and how this is an interpretation that i'm comfortable with other people having even if i personally do not but I've noticed in a lot of 3zun fics, if jgy is holding smth back- generally his own feelings because his natural reaction to conflict is to make it Go Away and so if his emotional needs are the potential source conflict he will simply Not Look At Them.- That between nielan Xichen is the one who's worried and presses for comunication and Mingjue is like "Meng Yao is an adult if there was a problem he'd say so."

And I get why this is done, because nieyao's communication is generally atrocious and Xichen is the Gentle One who'd want to make sure a-yao is okay. So I get it. But. Canonically. The person going "I know a-yao, we trust each other, I don't need to ask him, he'll tell me on his own terms." is Lan Xichen and the one going "If Meng Yao doesn't want me to know something he WILL hide it from me and i'll have no idea because he's just that good at lying" is Nie Mingjue. And in a healthier nieyao dynamic, as these fics work under, that knowledge would not lead to automatic distrust but rather a desire to check in, to go: please remember that I value your honesty more than whatever you think you would burden me with by telling me what's going on.

Xichen also wants honesty and open communication ofc but his reaction to conflict is also to make it go away as fast as possible and he feels like saying it constantly feels accusatory so he wouldn't. If he asks if something is ok and a-yao smiles and goes of course er-ge checking again if it's really okay would be implying he was lying the first time!! He's showing his trust in him!! This is really refreshing if you're constantly assumed to be untrustworthy and meng yao appreciates it so much and it works really well 95% of the time but when it doesn't? Oh boy.

#examples of where that goes wrong *points at canon* #mdzs #3zun #nie mingjue #lan xichen #meng yao #jin guangyao #nieyao's communication is bad because they're going 'i CAN'T figure you out and so there's no point in trying' #and not because they think they understand the other perfectly #that's xiyao #who fall into this trap because they DO actually know each other better than almost everyone else #and so are completely blind to the few things they don't get about e/o #nielan can also do this #but it's more complicated cause i feel like they consciously DECIDE not to know each other sometimes #because they hold responsibilities to other people they must prioritize over each other. like so much canon nielan is wrapped up in duty #but idk exactly how that would translate if they did make the conscious decision to prioritize their relationship #and this post is about the yao-corner of the triangle and how they both interact with him so. will reserve those thoughts for another time

[pangzi]

Live Ji Li reaction

#wang yizhou #ji li #liu haikuan #the untamed #the untamed cast #updates #live stream #nielan #yes i'm tagging this nielan I'm thinking thoughts #cql cast

[ntnttalksnothing]

Day 2: Art and Culture, Prompt: Spring Books

And later:

#sangcheng #scweek22 #sangcheng week 2022 #nie huaisang #jiang cheng #nielan #nie mingjue #jc thought it was nmj who highlighted things in the books #and was horrified #doodles

[tbgkaru-woh]

Heyyyy I read through your chengxuan comic "Pride of Jin" and I loved it!! Just wondering if you have any thoughts as to what happens after chapter 10 when wwx is resurrected?

hey, glad you liked it! I always have thoughts, many thoughts! I actually wanted to do an epilogue comics but didn't find the time/energy for that specific thing. Whether it's fair, good or bad, the endings for all characters got changed majorly: JGY gets to leave with his mom's ashes and SMS (Su Minshan) accompanies him on his travels to somewhere where JGY won't be recognized and can start a new life LXC learned about NMJ and JGY in a less stressful situation, in a situation where JGY was no longer in the picture to twist the knife that true stabbed in him, but instead of brooding solitute, he reverts to less healthy coping mechanism - feeling so guilty for not trusting NMJ regarding JGY, he wishes for nothing more than to be able to fix this mistake. goal that aligns with NHS's, who shares that WWX "owes him" bringing NMJ back. WWX doesn't want anything to do with that life again, but NHS finds a big appeal in it and WWX basically teaches NHS ways around demonic cultivation, just so NHS can get his brother back. NMJ gets "brought back" but isn't as controllable as he should be, NHS keeps NMJ in chains but keeps him close, dressed up with his hair styled again, always by his side as he leads the Nie clan in a way where it's less him being part of any events and more in the "don't fuck with Nies, we literally have feral fierce corpses". WWX, JC and LXC are the only ones allowed inside the walls, LXC visits often to play soothing music to NMJ and talks to him, trying to bring the "human" part of him back. WWX and LWJ still get together but it doesn't leave LXC alone, jgy dead and yi city boys destroyed so i call that a win. didn't have many thoughts on their endgame though. and Yi City, i couldn't decide if i'd give xue yang the ability to have both song lan and xiao xingchen by his side as fierce corpses, OR if i'd still have him try and bring XXC back as SL is loyaly by his side as a fierce corpse without wangxian ever interrupting, OR if i'd have Song Lan never find XY and XXC and they'd continue living in their bliss (and i don't want to think of the tragedy i'd throw Song Lan's way to make that be the case :') ) JC and JZX still each have their sect but they have a publicly acknowledged bond/allyship where they may as well work as a unit. JZX finally rules the proud Jins in a respectable way and the Jiangs are stronger than ever under JC's leadership, to the point where Yunmeng becomes the prefered location for new disciples to enlist. JC gets the validation he deserves without being in WWX's shadow and JZX finally turns anew leaf on Jin's-not-so-great track record. And the Juniors, i'd love to explore their together times during studies, not unlike the main characters in their Gusu days, until eventually, i will do a timeskip with them all grown up, causing both mayhem but also being the heroes no one asked for but we all deserve, this DND adventuring group

#this is long i apologize #please feel free to ask thoughts or headcanons on any ship or scenario i LOVE doing these #hcs #mo dao zu shi #mdzs #the untamed #pride of jin #chengxuan #suyao #nielan

[stiltonbasket]

stilton my heart is hurting! Do nielan ever get together in the dwarf nmj/elf lxc au? T.T

Yes, and Lan Xichen doesn't die of grief after Nie Mingjue passes away. The conversation where LXC found out about NMJ's feelings went something like this:

Lan Xichen: You...you've been in love with me since we met, and you haven't said anything? We've lost so much time...

Nie Mingjue: Yes. But I know elves can die of grief, and I couldn't bear to be the cause of your death.

Lan Xichen: That's why you didn't tell me??

Nie Mingjue: Can you blame me for valuing your life over the chance to be married to you?

Lan Xichen: Absolutely. If you'd bothered to ask, you'd know that I simply cannot afford to die because my half-human adopted son doesn't have the brains the heavens gave geese. Last year, Jingyi went running off to fight sea-serpents with the Jiangs every time I took my eyes off him. This year, Shufu has him under 24/7 surveillance because he tried to go foraging hobbit-style and made soup out of poisonous mushrooms. I love you dearly, A-Jue, but my child is an idiot and can't survive in the wild without me. You have nothing to be afraid of.

Nie Mingjue:

#asks #lotr au #lxc be like rip to all those other elves in interspecies relationships but i just cannot afford to die #jingyi will be sobbing at my funeral and booking a ship to yunmeng to check out whirlpools the next day because he 'thought they were cool' #he has elvish strength and the impulse control of a human teenager and i am at my LIMIT a-jue #so husband me up asap so I can have ONE family member who calms me down instead of driving me up the wall :)) #nmj does husband him up pretty quick lol #nielan

[luobingmeis]

i need to find more 3zun people to follow i love xi/yao with all my heart and soul but even i get a bit tired of either 1) nmj being entirely erased from 3zun esp when it comes to lxc’s seclusion or 2) nmj being overtly vilified 😭

#i can talk abt nmj for so long but overall my points boil down to #1) yes i believe to some degree he was too harsh on my/jgy #2) yes he being of the gentry shaped his world view #3) he also has understandable reasons to not want to associate with my/jgy #4) we can talk abt nmj and qi deviation but his qi deviation in the story. was not it’s natural progression. #5) he was not bullied into the brotherhood nor was it just to intimidate jgy #and my secret 6) #i don’t necessarily think nmj was wrong for saying that maybe they shouldn’t let a serial killer be in the hands of the sect #when nmj is like the only one stopping them from completely abusing their power #but tbh overall i just get so :/ when lxc’s seclusion is reduced /entirely/ to jgy #like yes! that is such a big part of it! and by god is it heartbreaking! #but also lxc’s seclusion is a culmination of like. the road to hell being paved in good intentions #and how a lot of his active decisions ended up having adverse effects #like i will not deny that nmj was a threat to jgy but also like. he had claims and his qi deviation is quite tragic to me #and like idk i feel like lxc would feel some kind of way abt. u know. the whole song of clarity thing #but also even in the inverse bc i love nielan as well but then there we have jgy as like #more of the fall guy/‘bad’ guy than he already is #which like in hindsight it’s funny trying to find equal content bc 3zun is a mess akdjdjsj #idk i think my overall thoughts is that nmj can be frustrating with how rigid he can be but also like #1) makes sense for the character mxtx has set up #and 2) his fate as both a man and a fierce corpse is so tragic to me #edit: and even more so i know and love that lxc’s seclusion was pushed by jgy’s death #and how a part of lxc died in that temple #but it’s just!!! sometimes i rotate #bc yes it’s abt jgy and it’s abt how lxc killed jgy for the one thing he didn’t do #and it’s also a line of ‘wrong’ choices #but also when i think abt lxc grieving both his sworn brothers and thinking abt how he should’ve died in the temple #i do lose my mind a bit

[cryptidafter]

In my humble opinion

xiyao>3zun>nieyao>nielan

#cryptid's thoughts #the middle two depend on my mood but when they’re written well it’s REALLY GOOD #nielan bores me to TEARS like I need zest I need flavor #I woke up and chose violence today bc we're out of sugar and I can't make more mocha syrup for my coffee

[qinghe-s]

i know with 100% certainty i would find my fave insufferable if i had to spend time with him, but as a blorbo he is impeccable

#nie huaisang #obviously #talked to mirf about this yesterday and thought about it again bc i mentioned in the nielan server how spoiled he is #selfish! inconsiderate! lazy! careless! but also my Sweet Perfect Baby #he’s a squishy little marshmallow and i want to eat him up. but also. well. #point is i love him more than any other fictional character i think. bad sides and all #nhs #mdzs: all

[songofclarity]

What’s your favorite thing about nielan?

S o f t !!!

Nielan can be so soft, like the softest. Those first love vibes in the calm and quiet moments alone, away from Nie Dad's sickbed and Lan Mom's house, while Nie Mingjue is sharpening Baxia and Lan Xichen is playing Liebling and there are no arguments or hurts or feuds and maybe the world really can be good and kind, actually.

#nielan #mdzs thoughts #asked from above #anon

[naysaltysalmon]

Here’s the link also on FFN~!

Words: 10,977 Genre: Romance/Drama/Supernatural Rated: Explicit / M (sex, violence, & sexual violence)

Pairings: NieYao, XiYao, NieLan, 3zun

Characters: Nie Mingjue, Meng Yao/Jin Guangyao, Nie Huaisang, Lan Huan/Lan Xichen, Lan Zhan/Lan Wangji Relationships: Meng Yao & Nie Huaisang, Nie Mingjue & Nie Huaisang, Lan Huan/Lan Xichen & Lan Zhan/Lan Wangji

Summary: Demonic cultivation takes a toll on the heartiest souls. None recover, even when trained to combat its malific influence since their youth. Nie Mingjue knows this well, yet Meng Yao can only see him as the enigmatic clan leader, the man with an exterior so cold he has no idea why Nie Mingjue saved his life at all. Ensnared in a discipline and authority that threatens to devour them both, will Meng Yao be able to let go of his past, or will he destroy everything he holds dear in the process of trying to gain control?

Slow-burn NieYao. Future 3zun.

WARNING: depictions of past sexual abuse and dubious consent.

Preview:

Xichen and Yao walked no more than ten feet outside from the tent's entrance before Xichen turned to the other, heart pounding in his chest. He still didn’t have the courage to ask what was truly on his mind, but he at least would not do nothing. “A-Yao, what was it you and Mingjue were arguing about before I entered?”

Yao glanced flusteredly at the hand that had been placed on his upper arm. Xichen quickly retracted it, worrying he’d overstepped. Yao smiled at him. “Zewu-jun, don’t worry about it. Everyone is stressed about the matter of infiltrating Scorching Sun Palace.”

Xichen expected Yao to elaborate, but he didn’t. He was unaccustomed to seeing Yao this way: in a dark military outfit, with shortened sleeves and Nie armguards decorated with the faces of demons and fire. He preferred the other's scholarly grace and court demeanor. There was even a sword at his side.

Xichen shivered. The thought of Yao being forced to fight set his chest aflutter. Somehow, he felt he must have impelled Yao to accompany Mingjue on the mission to incapacitate Wen Ruohan, having interfered in their relationship as he had. Before Xichen knew what he was doing, he said, “I want you to know you can come to me with anything. All right?”

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#NieYao #XiYao #Jin Guangyao #The Untamed #Lan Wangji #3zun #Nie Mingjue #Lan Xichen #Meng Yao #MDZS #Nie Huaisang #NieLan #Mo dao zu shi #fanfic #fanfiction #writing #nayraider #i still have to edit this chapter into oblivion because i'm not super satisfied with a lot of it but #forewarning i probably won't be able to update this month (and maybe not edit for a while due to business) so enjoy!! #just realized i'm about to hit 28k posts so i thought why not make it more special than whatever i have in my queue lol #i hate how much these idiots have ruined me

[knife-teeth]

Can't stop thinking about Lan Xichen as Anne Elliot. Everything he does is always for the good of other people, wether that be the sect at large or Wangji or his uncle, the closest thing to a functioning parent figure he has. I'm also convinced that his friendship with Nie Mingjue provided great solace for him, it was someone he wasn't responsible for, someone whom he could just be himself with. It must've been so wonderful until he lost it and the very memory of Nie Mingjue became painful. Just like the agony Anne felt again and again every time she met with Wentworth after their reunion.

When it comes to assigning other rules, it almost goes without saying that Nie Mingjue is Wentworth, the one who got away, the one Lan Xichen lost trough the influence of others (Jin Guangyao).

As such, Jin Guangyao takes on the role of Lady Russel, though without the care for Lan Xichen's happiness at the forefront of his mind. The focus rather lays with an isolation of Nie Mingjue but it's a persuasion none the less.

Jin Guangyao also reminds me of Mr Elliot in his shadiness and callousness. Of course, Jin Guangyao is more than that, but he fits very well into the role of Mr Elliot.

Anyway, someone should write a fic like this, at the very least the Nielan part

#NieLan #nielan #nie mingjue #lan xichen #mdzs #persuasion #mine #Never thought I'd write something like this #fantasised about it though

[wangxianficfinder]

Canon Divergence pt.2 (general) (pt.1)

~*~

The Scarlet Lotus by rainbowninja167 (M, 137k, WangXian, Marriage of Convenience, Secret Identity, Fix-It, Angst with a Happy Ending, It Gets Worse Before It Gets Better, Canon-Typical Violence, canon-typical war crimes, Yunmeng Bros, the mortifying ordeal of getting seduced by your own husband, nonlinear chronology we die like cql, just kidding nobody dies in this fic, Slow Burn, Mutual Pining, Miscommunication)

stay, fury, your wrist wrapped in silk by spookykingdomstarlight (E, 228k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, YLLZ LWJ, LWJ loses his golden core, yiling wei sect, Hurt/Comfort, Heavy Angst, Major Character Injury, Injury Recovery, Temporary Character Death, War Crimes, WangXian Get a Happy Ending, Revenge, temporary impotence, growing intimacy)

I Know How Those in Exile Feed on Dreams of Hope by rabbit_habits, saltedpin (E, 474k, WangXian, NieLan, XuanLi, ChengQing, Canon Divergence, Slow Burn, Canon-Typical Violence, Presumed Dead, Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Political Marriages, Ensemble Cast, minor non-canonical character death, 3zun | Venerated Triad Dynamics, the dynamics are 'UST', Canonical Character Death)

Hand in Hand Together (All Your Life) by sami (T, 41k, WZL/JC, WangXian, Queerplatonic relationship, Implied future MingLi, Somebody Lives/Not Everyone Dies, Canon-Typical Violence, Canon Divergence, Time Travel Fix-It, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Healing, Slow Burn)

The Dreams of Youth by sami (E, 85k, WangXian, YZY/TLJ, Canon Divergence, Time Travel, Fix-It, Family, Not Lan Sect Friendly, Bad Dads, good dads, JFM's A+ parenting, Qingheng-Jun's F- Existence, Childhood Friends to Lovers, Sort Of, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Hurt/Comfort, Explicit Sexual Content, Additional Warnings In Author's Note, Some People Live/Not Everyone Dies, Canonical Character Death)

An Elegant Solution by giraffeter (E, 205k, niewangxian, canon divergence, arranged marriage, friends to lovers, fix-it, everyone lives au, courtship, polyamory, smut)

🧡 Stunted, Starving Juvenility by TomatenMark (E, 742k, WangXian, WIP, Cloud Recesses Study Arc, Feelings Realization, Getting Together, Sexual Tension, Supportive LQR, Light Angst, Internalized Homophobia, Period-Typical Homophobia, Hurt/Comfort, WWX learns about his parents, First Dates, First Kiss, First Time, LWJ is confused, Then he is 100 percent on board, Kink Discovery, Kink Exploration, Bisexual WWX, Dual Cultivation, Slow Burn, Fix-It of Sorts, Not JFM friendly, Emotional/Psychological Abuse, Fluff and Angst, Blood and Gore, Supportive LXC, Protective LXC, Canon Divergence, Inventor WWX, Eventual Smut, Possessive LWJ, Genius WWX, Cultivation Sect Politics, Scheming NHS, Cultivation Discussion Conferences, Pre-Sunshot Campaign, Minor Character Death, NHS gets himself a beard (not the facial kind), POV WWX, Fluff and Smut, Burning of the Cloud Recesses)

🔒Instead by apathyinreverie (T, 27k, wangxian, fix-it, darker gusu lan, manipulative elders, but in a good way?, golden core transfer fix-it of sorts, not Jiang friendly, or anyone friendly, except wangxian, cultivation world critical, fluff, sunshot, politics, courting rituals, genius WWX, no demonic cultivation, talismans, possessive LWJ, protective LWJ, WIP)

no step had trodden black by Stratisphyre (T, 32k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Madam Lan lives, Past Rape, Golden Core Reveal, Hurt/Comfort, References to Attempted Suicide and Suicidal Thoughts, Canon-Typical Violence)

to hell and back for you by blumeraki (G, 5k, WangXian, Angst and Hurt/Comfort, Canon Universe, Protective WWX, Protective LWJ, Everything Hurts, Implied/Referenced Torture, Hurt WWX, Hurt LWJ, Branding Iron, Whipping, discipline whip, jc saves the day, Canon Divergence)

these colours fade for you only by doodlebutt (T, 36k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Fix-It, Fluff and Angst, Angst with a Happy Ending, Everybody Lives, Golden Core Transfer Fix-It, ...eventually, Hurt/Comfort, Nightmares, bed sharing, Mutual Pining, Slow Burn, Sunshot Campaign)

🔒 Blossoming flowers in a full moon - 花好月圆 by ThisIsWhereTheMagicHappens (T, 64k, wangxian, canon divergence, happy ending, fix-it of sorts, wangxian cuddle to immortarility)

🔒🧡 rain falls and soaks into the earth series by RoseThorne (T, 53k, WangXian, WIP, Near Death Experience, Attempt Drowning, Madam Yu Bashing, Recovery, No war AU)

Ties series by WithBroomBefore (M, 15k, NMJ/WQ, wangxian, canon divergence, fix-it, not everyone dies au, family feels, no golden core transfer, sect leader JYL, canon typical violence, sick fic, trans NMJ, sunshot campaign, WQ pov, happy ending)

🧡 Company by WithBroomBefore (T, 29k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Pre-Relationship, Getting Together, POV LWJ, Fix-It, Pre-Canon, at least to start, WWX goes to Cloud Recesses, But Not In The Usual Way, fear of character death, Everybody Lives, Hurt/Comfort, Happy Ending, Light Angst, good teacher LQR, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, brief discussion of past minor character suicide, Kitten, Not YZY Friendly)

The Devil That You Forgot by pottedplnt (Not Rated, 20k, WIP, WangXian, Canon Divergence, BAMF WWX, YLLZ WWX, Rogue Cultivator WWX, WWX Isn't Adopted by the Jiāngs, Angst, Sentient Burial Mounds, Demonic Cultivation, Somebody Lives/Not Everyone Dies, Angst with a Happy Ending, Sunshot Campaign, Chronic Pain, JFM and YZY Bashing, Bad Parent YZY, Jiāng Family Bashing)

To Ride A Stygian Tiger by Madyamisam for Duochanfan (M, 111k, WIP, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Time travel, Angst with a happy ending, BAMF WWX, Dark LWJ, Slow burn, Family Feels, Misunderstandings)

Those Who Defy by qurbat (G, 31k, wangxian, LWJ & LSZ & WWX, canon divergence, found family, everyone who matter lives au, justice for wen remnants, WIP)

Cultivating immortality by KizuKatana (E, 231k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Rogue Cultivator WWX, Mutual Pining, BAMF WWX, BAMF LWJ, Angst with a Happy Ending, Hurt/Comfort, unreliable narrator, Found Family, First Time, novel canon relationship dynamics)

🧡 a paper friend by soft_wanning (G, 4k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Fluff, Paperman!WWX, Identity Porn, Meet-Cute, Different First Meeting)

❤️ By Any Other Name by ShanaStoryteller (Not Rated, 31k, Wangxian, Canon Divergence, Crossdressing, Misunderstandings, Identity Porn, Identity reveal)

Heart of the Beast by WaitForTheSnitch (E, 386k, WIP, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Protective NMJ & NHS, Soft NMJ, Pining LWJ)

A Good Placement by madwriter223 (T, 12k, wangxian, Canon Divergence, What if YZY had been the one to find WWX AU, Emotional Manipulation, Lies, Street Child WWX, Fluff and Angst, OOC but YZY is doing that on purpose, Found Family, itty bitty Wangxian, Bittersweet Ending)

Until The End by abCEE (M, 365k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, war changes people resulting to OOC, no Pining, Established Relationship, wangxian are married and have a son, Mpreg, Good Uncle LQR, a little grey LWJ, a bit of JC bashing from LWJ, BAMF JYL, 16 years of yearning, mainly CQL verse but has scenes from the novel as well, LSZ is WangXian's Child, WWX Has a New Golden Core, Canonical Character Death -WWX, Canon Rewrite, Happy Ending, Fix-It of Sorts)

🔒❤️ shades of grey by cl410 (M, 58k, nielan, wangxian, Hurt/Comfort, Accidental Sibling Acquisition, Single Dad NMJ, NHS & WWX Friendship, Fluff, Humor, Happy Ending, Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies, Protective NMJ, Some angst, Blood and Injury, Kidnapping, Protective Siblings, Found Family)

🔒Dear Fellow Traveler by Netrixie (Not Rated, 13k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies, Alive WWX parents, immortal BSSR and family being rogue cultivators together, meet cute, travel partners falling in love, Flirting, Yearning, Sharing a Bed, Fluff, Sweet, good parental figures only, Pre-Relationship, Getting Together)

🧡 close your eyes, feel my heartbeat by ThatDesiGirl (T, 11k, WangXian, blind!WWX, Angst with a Happy Ending, Rewriting Canon, not a fix-it but a what-if, Golden Core Transfer)

🧡 Resplendence by FrozenMarVel (E, 166k, WIP, WangXian, Canon Divergence, CS Lives, Different first meeting, Fluff, Crossdressing, Love at first sight, Fix-it of sorts)

🔒Wújī by FairyTaleDreams (M, 55k, WIP, WangXian, Canon Divergence, WCZ & CS Lives, Rouge cultivator WWX)

you can have the best of me, baby by stiltonbasket (Not Rated, 12k, WIP, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Pre-Relationship, Dual Cultivation, Accidental Baby Acquisition, Sunshot Campaign, Getting Together, a-yuan is wangxian's baby, Happy Ending)

There are (no) (un)written rules by Winxhelina (T, 33k, WangXian, Humor, Canon-Typical Violence, madam yu is madam yu, Misunderstandings, Angst and Humor, Mutual Pining)

You don't have to go home (there's a long way to go) by AmiraAlzilu (M, 28k, WIP, WangXian, XuanLi, not Jiang friendly, Jiāng Family Bashing, Fluff and Angst, Family Feels, WWX Has a Family, Getting to Know Each Other, Getting Together, BAMF WWX, Self-Reflection, Somebody Lives/Not Everyone Dies, Fix-It)

🔒 the thread may stretch or tangle but it will never break by RoseThorne (E, 91k, WIP, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Soulmates, Self-Esteem Issues, Fix-It, Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Nightmares, PTSD, Handfasting, Panic Attacks, Getting Together, First Time, Aftercare, Implied/Referenced Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, /Referenced Torture, Scars, Chronic Pain, Golden Core Reveal, First Time, Switching, sex-related injury, LWJ Stays at the Burial Mounds, LSZ is a Wèi, Good Sibling JC, Dissociation, Burial Mounds Settlement Days)

#Wangxian Fic Rec #The Untamed #wangxian #MDZS #wangxianficfinder compilation post #long post

[lgbtlunaverse]

3zun data analysis

I was wondering how much the different 2-out-of-3zun ship fics were actually focused specifically on them, rather than having them feature as side pairings, so I did a little mini-experiment. Beginning by searching for otp:true in each tag

(This doesn't give you the real number of fics were the pairing is the main focus, for the record. The other tagged ships might've been a side pairing, and the one we're filtering for the main one, and otp:true also filters out platonic relationships. So, for example, a nielan fic that has the nie brothers tagged as a platonic bond will also be filtered out. But since it does that for all ships you can still get a good idea how likely each one of them is to be the center in their fics)

My hypothesis was that Nielan would be the least likely, as they're frequently tagged as a side pairing in wangxian focused fics, with xiyao and nieyao having comparable results.

Nielan, as I type this, have 2154 works, of which only 627 have only nielan tagged. That is 29% of all nielan fics.

Next up is xiyao, who have 4534 works, of which 2195 only have xiyao tagged, a significanly higher 48%

And lastly nieyao, who have the least works in total with 1749, but have 683 works only tagged nieyao, more than nielan despite having less fics overall. Ending up at 39% of all nieyao fics

So I was right about nielan being lower, but turned out to be wrong in my hypothesis that nieyao and xiyao would end up with comparable results!

One possible factor is that nieyao, being a smaller ship, is more affected by those big collection-type fics that have a dozen pairings tagged for every chapter, as well as 3zun fics that have the individual pairings tagged. (Which we'll get to later!!)

Also, Huaisang - typical of him - butts into nieyao more. 5% of nieyao fics have the Nie brothers tagged platonically, and almost exactly the same number are tagged sangyao. Compare that to lan xichen's much more reserved little brother who really doesn't want to be a part of this, as only 3% of xiyao fics are tagged with the twin jades, and zhanyao... isn't much of a thing.

I'd anticipated both of these, but I'd also expected that xiyao, being a bigger ship, would be a less controversial background pairing for wangxian, who - let's be real - are the main players within the mdzs fic space so they massively impact the numbers. I know xiyao are certainly not without controversy (god no) and the go-to side pairings are xicheng and xuanli instead but like... compared to nieyao, surely they're the normie pick? And, well, 25% of xiyao fics are tagged wangxian compared to only 20% of nieyao fics so that is somewhat true, but not as much as I'd thought. (For comparison, 43% of nielan fics are tagged wangxian)

Now let's look at 3zun overall. Of the 1127 3zun fics, 277 are exclusively tagged 3zun. That's only 25%

But that doesn't feel right. After all, a lot of 3zun fics also tag the individual pairings. And excluding them like we did with the 2-out-of-3zun ships feels wrong. You'd categorize a fic tagged with both nieyao and 3zun as a 3zun fic, wouldn't you?

So I manually excluded each non 2-out-of-3zun pair. This took a bit, but you end up with 538 3zun fics which are either not tagged with any side pairing, or only tagged with a ship already contained in 3zun. That is 48% of all 3zun fics, similar to xiyao.

So there you have it! Xiyao is the most independent of the subfandoms, having almost half of its works centered solely around xiyao (and even more primarily focused on xiyao. As I said, otp:true also filters out works that still focus on xiyao but have other background relationships) with the overall 3zun fandom having a similar focus, followed by nieyao, and then nielan.

edit: this has a part 2 now

#mdzs #cql #the untamed #nie mingjue #meng yao #jin guangyao #lan xichen #3zun #nielan #xiyao #nieyao #fandom research #fandom statistics #<- i have a feeling i might start doing more of this so let's create the tags for orgizational purposes #nielanists it's time to rise up and free nielan from the bruce banner phenomenon!

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💙 The Men They Became by pinky_b

💙 The Men They Became

by pinky_b

G, 3k, Wangxian & Nielan

Summary: When he looks at A-Yuan, he sees everything he wishes his nephews could have been: happy. Or: Lan Qiren looks back on how he raised his nephews. Kind of a character study. Kay's comments: This story is the epitome of "Lan Qiren tries". Sometimes, just doing what you do is best, is not enough. He thinks things are going well for a while after he had to take in his nephews, but the house of cards collapses at some point, both boys having to deal with severe mental health issues that have been untreated for too long. Still, he tries his best at least until Wei Wuxian enters the mix. Then, he almost loses his nephews for good... This story is just very lovely in its own heartbreaking way and everyone who grew up having complicated relationships with their parents will probably recognize some part of it in this story. Still, there's hope in this too and a happy ending after some much needed communication! I also really like how this mirrored canon. Excerpt: When he looks at A-Yuan, he sees everything he wishes his nephews could have been: happy. As he watches his grand-nephew talk with his friends and smile, laugh, he feels this weight settle in his chest, reminding him of everything he failed to do. He tries to not be too hard on himself, but he knows he failed both his nephews in so many ways it physically hurts him. He tried. He truly honestly tried to do right by them in everything he did. He sees the unrestrained grin that seems to live on Lan Yuan’s face and the crowd of friends around him, and in those things, he sees everything his boys never had. He wants to be able to give himself some grace. He was never an affectionate man, and children were never anything he saw for his future, but he thought he was doing his best with what life gave him. He wants to be able to say that he did them well. Both his nephews are smart, capable, respectable men, but he thinks they became all those things in spite of how they were raised. Sometimes he feels like the boys had to overcome growing up in his home to become the men they are now. They say hindsight is always 20/20 and he can see now that there was too much on Xichen’s young shoulders.

pov lan qiren, modern setting, modern no powers, implied/referenced child abuse, child neglect, implief/referenced self-harm, grief/mourning, parent-child relationship, mental healh issues, panic attacks, musician lan wangji, lan xichen/nie mingjue, nielan, journalist wei wuxian, complicated relationships, coming out, character study

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White lies

Time to out myself as NieLan shipper I guess.

Special thanks to @apho-sappho for pitching and brainstorming this idea with me <3

This is part of my LWJ and NHS are besties agenda, this time modern AU flavored

Enjoy!

Wei Wuxian sighs, contently, as he takes his place on top of Lan Wangji, thoroughly sated and impossibly cuddly after their third round of the night. Lan Wangji can't help stealing a little kiss from his red lips, eyes trailing over the mess of bitemarks on his neck and collarbones. He looks really good like that, hair messy and eyes glassy, his skin bearing the proof of what they've just done.

"We really need to buy Huaisang a bottle of something for letting us do this at his place." He says, a finger tracing over Lan Wangji's jawline.

"Mn. Bourbon. It's his favorite."

"My, my, no wonder your brother thinks the two of you are actually dating."

"Wei Ying."

"I mean, you do know a lot about him. That's a prerequisite for a relationship, isn't it?"

"You know it's nothing like that." Lan Wangji rolls his eyes as he runs a hand through Wei Wuxian's hair to disentangle it. "My brother thinks if he likes a Nie, everyone should."

"To be fair, they are quite attractive." Wei Ying pretends to think. "They're also rich."

"I am also rich." Lan Wangji defends, irrationally jealous. Wei Ying laughs and kisses him.

"Anyway," he continues, "we can't really blame him, can we? The Nies are a catch. And it's cute, for him and Nie Mingjue to date, and you to date Huaisang too."

"He is not at all my type." Lan Wangji huffs. "Only you are."

"Of course you'd say that now that you got me in your bed." Wei Wuxian teases, "It would be a bit disrespectful not to."

Lan Wangji's eyes glint with mischief. "I thought you liked disrespectful."

"Shameless, Lan Zhan! You know that's not what I meant!"

Lan Wangji kisses him to hide a laugh.

"No, but if you think about it, you and Huaisang have been friends since you were children, right? There's, like, a friends-to-lovers trope right there."

"Wei Ying."

He laughs and kisses Lan Wangji himself, slow and playful, before he decides he wants to ask more, actually. "For real now, what was your brother even thinking pairing you up with Nie Huaisang of all people?"

"He believed we were... compatible. Since we have been friends for so long. And he and Nie Mingjue arranged these accidental dates for us."

"Accidental dates?"

"Like inviting us out to the movies and them not showing up, making reservations for two people instead of four and the likes."

Wei Ying giggled. Lan Wangji continued.

"They would also spy on us, but we always noticed them."

"How did they not give it up? I mean, I love you but you can get pretty awkward."

A deep sigh. "Huaisang decided it would be convenient to lean into it. He could use me as a cover up."

"Why, cause you're so good and so rule-abiding?"

"Mn. He would lie that we are going out together and instead go do whatever else he wanted that his brother disapproved of."

"Like right now?"

"Exactly."

"Where even is he?"

"I believe he went clubbing. Nie Mingjue has forbidden him from doing so after he maxed our three credit cards last time."

"Kind of iconic if you think about it. I'd love to have the money to do that."

"I can give you mine if you want. My card doesn't have a spending limit."

But before Wei Wuxian can make some dirty joke about that, Lan Wangji's phone goes off, Nie Mingjue's name lighting up the screen.

Lan Wangji sighs, sliding his finger over to answer. "Yes?"

Nie Mingjue's voice, barely above the noise around him, comes through. "Is my brother with you?"

"Yes."

There is an unnatural pause after.

"Try again."

Lan Wangji pales only a little bit. "Pardon?"

"My brother is currently sucking face with a stripper at the same nightclub I am in with Xichen. So, as I said, try again."

Lan Wangji's grip on his phone falters. "I have nothing to say in my defense."

"Good. Your brother is... out of it, but a talk is in order tomorrow."

Another unnatural pause.

"And say hello to Wei Wuxian for me." Nie Mingjue says and hangs up, his voice carrying proof of the teasing smile on his face.

Tomorrow is going to be a very interesting day.

#mdzs #mo dao zu shi #wangxian #nielan #nhs #writing attempts