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kidflashimpulse · 1 year

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if bart's issues got explored, i'd want acknowledgement of how desensitized he is, but also how he's wired to constantly be ready for a threat. an exploration of almost being MORE comfortable when you're NOT safe bc you're so used to it, of how keeping your emotions on a tight leash on can be born from a fear of making yourself vulnerable to legit ATTACK rather than just not wanting to face them. i think it should be more so about what constantly being in danger can do to you than the grief

YES!!! Everything !! About this !! Is muah, chefs kiss perfect. You nailed it anon, i love this description so much like i don’t even know where to start lol.

the aspect of “what constantly being in danger can do to you than the grief” hits the nail exactly on the head as to why i dont perceive his “trauma run” to be like that we saw of gar or other characters on the show. Because being in his surrounding growing up, it’s almost gone beyond the grief because that’s just so normalised at that point.

that exploration of being wired and like u said “more comfortable” in the face of danger combined with the factor of him putting on a front not because of him having issues with himself so much that it’s more born out of habit of what it means to be constantly exposed to threats and discomfort i.e being desensitised to the point that he developed those type of habits, the way you outlined it so accurate and really roots down that specific but super important details and source of motivation behind why he wouldn’t be traumatised in the more “traditional” sense that we’ve seen depicted in the series.

totally agree with wanting to see all this, it would only be the coolest thing ever. thanks for sharing your thoughts with us :D

#YJ asks #bart allen #young justice #impulse #kid flash #yj #bart allen analysis #renewyoungjustice #saveearth16 #young justice season 5 #renew young justice #save earth 16 #just realising now i could be using the tags properly instead of writing it all together #lmfao welp

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bearforceone3 · 4 months

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kon & bart redraw with my designs… for fun

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#my art #redraw #dc comics #impulse #superboy #bart allen #kon el #bless all the youtubers i follow posting a bunch of six hour game analysis videos rn actual godsend while drawing #i feel like doing an ongoing would kill me i would put too much detail in each panel #i dont have any christmas art planned btw i got covid lol

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phoenixkaptain · 2 years

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Nineties Tim Drake is a balancing act of being perfectly confident and competent when in the heat of battle, being completely sure of himself and being capable of changing his plans on a dime and all-around being borderline scary because of how well he can read his opponents moves and react to them, but outside of combat he is an awkward little duck boy who wants to befriend other superheroes but is also internally fanboying a bit over meeting other superheroes, so he comes across as stilted and nervous in social situations.

Yes I’m thinking about Tim Drake again. Did I ever truly stop thinking about Tim Drake? Who cares?

Tim is so funny because he is completely confident, the picture of a perfect leader, but the very second he has time to think about anything, he doubts literally everything he’s ever done. The Baseball Arc (my beloved) is a great example because Tim doesn’t trust himself, doesn’t actually believe what he’s doing will work, thinks he’s dooming two separate planets by being stupid. The comic goes out of its way to show us Tim doubting himself, because when he’s actually out on the field, playing baseball for the lives of billions of people (and yes, that is the funniest thing I’ve ever typed in my whole life) Tim is the complete opposite. More than trusting himself, he asks his friends to trust him, to believe in him that he can make them win a dumb baseball game and that he knows what he’s doing.

And they do trust him! That’s what really sticks, in Young Justice! The others trust Robin, they trust Tim, with their lives and the lives of everyone they know and care about. They trust him to do what he says he will, and he pushes himself so that he never lets them down because letting them down would prove that his doubts are correct.

But, even as he exceeds expectations, Tim is still doubting himself. He doubts that he’s a good enough Robin. He doubts that he lives up to Jason’s and Dick’s legacy. He doubts that he lives up to Bruce’s standards. He doubts that his plans will work, even as he comes up with a billion contingencies in the case that they don’t. He doubts himself, and Young Justice shows us this multiple times.

Tim Drake has a constant struggle with himself, with his internal voice that tells him he isn’t on the same level as the heroes he surrounds himself with.

But, the Young Justice team don’t believe he’s subpar. They’re baffled by him, they don’t understand him, they can’t read him at all, but they trust him and it means a lot to me that Tim can take the trust they put in him and build himself up with it. He trusts them just as much as they trust him.

He trusts them more than they trust themselves. He trusts Impulse even while everyone else thinks Bart is just an impulsive boy who can’t sit still. He trusts Wonder Girl even while Cassie doubts herself in similar ways that he does. He trusts Superboy even while Superboy struggles with everything under the sun. Tim even trusts Secret! Do you know how hard it is to trust Secret? Secret literally tried to murder Stephanie and Tim was just like “Girls will be girls” (I blame the writers for being sexist, but it is really funny to think that Tim thinks of girls in the same way people say “boys will be boys.” Like, he thinks that all applies to girls, not boys. Look who he surrounds himself with, Tim is more shocked when girls don’t punch each other to show affection)

Anyway, long story short, I fucking love how Tim is the most capable awkward little duck man in the world and I support him more than I support myself-

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radioactive-earthshine · 1 year

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Hello

Could you explain what you mean by Bart and Brainaic's friendship? I admit I never read any bit of LOSH and the only thing I remember of them interacting is when Brian told Bart he drank to forget him. It doesn't seem like they are friends but IDK

Teen Titans/Legion Special (2004)

This is actually something fairly on brand for Querl to say given his crassness inherited from the long line of Dox-Bitchiness. Querl is one of those great examples of a character who is a good person but he's not necessarily polite and nice all of the time. Although in more recent comics and media he has gotten significantly nicer.

His loose "blink and you miss it" friendship with Bart in the 90s comics comes as a little bit of a surprise considering the types of characters they are but it works as their dynamic evolves around mutually started chaos and working to get out of said chaos. The start of their connection also shows a surprising side of Post-Zero Hour Querl when he elects to show Bart some compassion after he had a very bad day.

This is not to say that their friendship was without a lot of frustrations as Bart did inflict himself upon the Legionnaires in ways that left... an impact.

Bart's first encounter with Querl can be found in his own comic when recently stranded Legionnaires specifically sought Bart out for help in getting back to their own time.

It ended disastrously when Bart while in the midst of an extreme case of the zoomies attempted to use the Cosmic Treadmill to take them home, but he had absolutely no ability to control it, and instead just flung everyone around through varying intervals of time (and gave Imra a migraine and Querl, Koko).

Impulse #21

Bart was even more hyper-active in this issue than normal, and I think it had something to do with the Slurpee he was drinking at the start of it.

Regardless if the zoomies were a result of Mark Waid deciding to go full ham for the chaos in this issue, or if the slurpee did something, the day did not end well and the Legionnaires left hoping to find another way home.

Querl did not expect to see Bart again for a long, long time, if ever.

They were all wrong.

Because like the One Ring he resurfaced as he inflicted himself upon them again about a day later at S.T.A.R. Labs in Legion of Super-Heroes (1989) Issue #88.

But not before the issue opens up reminding everyone that while Bart does have his chaotic moments, Querl is no less guilty of chaos and is his own unique brand of mayhem.

They are in fact, kindred.

LMFAO @ Rokk's "I've asked him NOT to." in regards to blowing up S.T.A.R. Labs because Rokk has about as much control over Querl as Max or any authority figure over Bart when he has an inkling.

S.T.A.R. Labs' solution to dealing with Querl was to put him under watch and surveillance, much to his extreme foul-mouthed displeasure, another trait he shares with Bart.

"What could possibly go awry?" is early Bart Allen's famous summoning incantation.

With Bart back in proximity of the Legionnaires things begin to unfold again chaotically, this time however it is Querl's fault for trying coopt Bart into helping him operate under the radar put on him.

This is their first instance working together, and it is the incident that brings them together and what likely prompts Querl to drink.

With the telepathic ear plugs, Querl directs Bart and gives him what he believes are clear instructions, but he didn't count on Bart's own brand of logic and instead helps initiate a countdown towards nuclear meltdown.

Fortunately, everyone is able to work together to stop catastrophe and all it takes is a Coluan finger subjected to speed force.

"Well. THAT went all right, then, didn't it?" you're a grenade in a barrel full of oatmeal, sir.

The day's events leads to the Legionnaires being kicked out of S.T.A.R. Labs, and out of a home, until they can find a solution to get back to their time.

It also leads to the heartbreaking scene at the diner where Bart is very bluntly and firmly told that he was absolutely not accepted as a Legionnaire. But not only that, he was the first ever hero to be turned down. Superboy at this time is an honorary member so it's a poignant gut-punch and it's hard to read.

Querl lurks outside for reasons unknown.

In true Bart Allen fashion all he wanted to do was help and he did act earnestly it just was not a good day. Six to One rejected him and the comics do not reveal who voted to allow him in.

It is likely that Querl voted to allow him membership, but we never find out, but it is my personal interpretation due to how the final page goes and this is where we see Querl lean into compassion for someone kindred. Maybe he saw a little bit of himself in him.

Querl opens up to Bart literal direct communication and this is the start of a positive friendship between them. Bart has this link with Querl for an impressively long time in comic continuity, at least 11 issues, however the comics do not show them actively communicating until later when Bart is needed to help save the world from C.O.M.P.U.T.O.

We see them again in Legion of Super-Heroes (1989) #99 when Querl reveals to his team that he shares a link with Bart and summons him. Much to the Legionnaires' bemoaning.

Querl isn't wrong, they really are up against time and a threat that is literally world-ending. He trusts Bart is capable and reliable enough to efficiently help them at this point and Bart does.

We also get a humorous snippet showing Querl trying to translate Bart's pictograms. If anything, communicating with Bart sometimes had to have been a mental exercise that he either appreciated or attained a migraine from.

After this point, we do not see them interact much except for in the Teen Titans/Legion Special, and then the next time they are seen even in the same proximity is during Final Crisis when another Brainiac 5 entirely bottles Bart's 'youth' and leads to his resurrection.

They had an interesting and unexpected dynamic/friendship and it is one I feel people generally neglect to notice or consider unless you happen to be a fan of both comics.

We do see some hints in other media that is a throw-back to this old friendship and dynamic such as in The Legion of Super-Heroes in the 31st Century Issue #15 when an alternative history to Bart Allen lands him working with Querl in his birth time.

In this particular version of Bart he has not evacuated to the past (if he ever does) and he is still in VR, however he still works with Querl in harmony and manages to impress them enough to get an invite to the team immediately. The entire issue is like a little love-letter to Bart and is a delight to read and stands on its own.

So there's Bart's interesting relationship/friendship to Earth 247's Brainiac 5 that maybe some in the Flashfam fandom or LOSH fandom may have overlooked.

It's fun, it's unexpected and it's interesting, and it would have been nice to see it a little more fleshed out but 1000 years of time displacement just makes this impossible.

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danothan · 5 months

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do you guys think speedsters have calluses, despite their accelerated healing? if anything, i feel like they should BECAUSE of it, since calluses form as a way to heal over repetitive pressure/friction. ig they could also heal anew without calluses, but would there even be enough time in between? with all the running speedsters do, that Repetition would build up over time to be more of a Constant

then again, a part of me thinks that as often as speedsters run, it would still not be enough to counteract how rapidly they heal, esp considering that the speedforce is meant to protect the speedster’s body from friction. barry himself says that he doesn’t wear down his socks any faster than usual when wally gifts him socks every year for christmas. i’m also reminded of knight terrors: flash when barry transforms into a callused creature of a thing bc there’s smth interfering with the speedforce, so his body has to compensate for the friction

huh, so i guess the takeaway is that in a general setting, speedster DON’T get calluses! at least not any more than the average person, probably even less so if at all actually. which now seems obvious in retrospect, but it’s fun going thru the process and showing the work for it lol

#i should post my streamlines of consciousness more often this is fun #the flash #speedsters #barry allen #wally west #dc #danbles #i need to make a tag for speedster-specific analysis #speedsters 101 #rly loving this theme of speedsters having next to no physical results to show for #and if they do… it’s usually pretty awful #thinking abt wally’s disordered eating and bart’s knee surgery #love how superspeed is such a basic power but have so many unique interpretations

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dangerdeficit · 2 years

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bart as the autism creature because he, too, is an autism creature. if you even care (if someone's already done this pls let me know, i don't intend to idea steal at all!!!)

#bart allen #impulse #dc comics #autism creature #tbh creature #bart's brain is something that can actually be so personal #i've been meaning to make a long text analysis post about bart's autism and adhd #but i'm still working my way through reading all of his stuff for the first time #i'll do it when i've done that i think in case i miss anything #my stuff #my art

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dcmarvelshit · 2 years

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So, the second issue came out.

I have reservations how the issue was paced, but I can see what she is trying to set up. There are some things off about the characterization of a lot of the characters, but I am gonna hold on until like issue 4 to talk about them. (because there could be an explanation!)

However, a positive note about the story (in midst of the seemly negative): Bart’s characterization.

He is surprisedly well done here: Fitzmartin is not writing Bart as an idiot, but rather the most clever of the trio here - this is his area of expertise and it is kinda showing! He is not happy-go-lucky and hyperactive as fandom and some writers like to write him - he is snarky, annoyed, and clearly wanting to get on with the greater mission. He is the one who is calling out most of the inconsistent beats in the narrative. He is not onboard with a lot of the things that the other characters are spitting out. He is quiet and observing, but also honest on his thoughts of the entire thing. It is interesting and is in character on some level. And it makes use of his intelligence and his experience with situations like this and bringing back the more serious parts of his character.

Looking at the panels where he makes a sexist comment - he clearly is uncomfortable with what he said and surprised he said it - so in other words, the world can control the words that the boys say - so there is a chance that the world can also control their thoughts on some level.

Which brings up the Tim-Batman thing - where he goes, “yeah, I wanted the cowl.” <-- which is not in character of him! He never wanted to be Batman, Robin was supposed to be temporary, and every time he does become Batman, he always ends up miserable.

And normally, I would dismiss that as bad writing - but for now, I am just gonna take into stride until the mini-series is over - because there is a pattern being set up throughout the second issue:

Bart, when he makes a sexist comment that he would normally never make because he is not a perv!: Why did I say that? I was never like that... was I?

Tim, when Cassie tells him he always wanted to be Batman (even though he never did!): Is that true? I mean...I did think that.

Both of the characters, when faced with the contradictions of their characters, were questioning it - pointing out how it feels off but at the same time, having a hard time saying why.

Tim went on to justify it, saying that he told Detective Williams about wanting the cowl, but, it feels like he was only saying that to convince himself that Dream Cassie was right.

Later on he goes: “so, who am I, if I’m not going to be Batman?”

The Batman part feels tacked on - as if the thoughts were trying to push him to think that is why he was having identity issues - because of Damian, because of not getting the chance to be Batman anymore, but when in reality, that is not at all why!

This is noted - because after this scene comes the Fake-Batman being an ass scene. Where Bernard is brought up, where he is being told he is in a phase.

That whole scene feels like it is to remind the audience that Tim’s thoughts are not true, the whole wanting-to-be Batman thing is not true.

Like if Tim did want to be Batman, then he wants to be with Stephanie, but he doesn’t! He is happy with Bernard! He wants to try to be with Bernard!

Tim is hesitant in accepting that being Batman is what he wants.

(then again, it could be bad writing and I am analyzing it too much to justify it)

Another thing I want to point is Bart’s whole spiel:

“It’s like there are cracks in the world. And this total lack of awareness when it comes to other people... was it always like this?”

First of all, the pattern of questioning and then the hesitation afterwards is there, like with Bart earlier and Tim.

Second of all, there is obvious something wrong with the world - Bart can see it and he is getting a sense of what it is.

Third of all, “total lack of awareness when it comes to other people” <- is this about how out of character some people are? Of course Bart could be talking to himself, but I think he is referring to how the world is structured and how biased and off it is on people’s characterization.

Who knows?

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Regardless, this issue feels like it is setting things up again.

Its strongest point is Bart’s characterization. (Obviously it is not the best, but it is not the most off in the issue)

(then again I might also be missing things about Bart and that is why I think that.)

#dark crisis: young justice #dark crisis 2 (2022)#Tuesday spoilers #Tim drake #bart allen #dc #dc comics #analysis

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orange-s-mario · 22 days

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11 + Bart Allen?

well the first thing I think about is uhh the character himself I guess? First thing means I just think of the character design, since that's what I think of before deeper analysis usually (unless the character is like unbelievably tragic or something, which bart isn't)

wait actually that's a lie. Sometimes I think about the first impulse when I see him instead.

#impulse #bart allen #ask game

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big-bat-bitch · 2 years

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BBB’s Tag Guide

I use a lot of acronyms or specific tags in my posts. They are for my convenience when searching through my blog so that I can more quickly find specific information, specifically character interactions - NOTE: these are not ship tags.

The tags should follow the this format: #character1.character2. The order of the characters is usually by age (oldest to youngest), but sometimes by the prevalence of the character within the post, or by their general popularity. If a character is interacting with a group as a whole, the tag format will be #character.groupabbreviation.

Below is a list of abbreviations that I use for specific characters/groups. Their corresponding hero names and alter-egos are what they will most commonly be found in my tags. This is not a comprehensive list of all characters that are mentioned on this blog, for specific characters, search them by their full name.

B - Batman (Bruce Wayne)

NW - Nightwing (Dick Grayson)

RH - Red Hood (Jason Todd)

RR - Red Robin (Tim Drake)

R - Robin (Damian Wayne)

Sp - Spoiler (Stephanie Brown)

BB - Black Bat (Cassandra Cain)

Si - Signal (Duke Thomas)

BWi - Batwing (Luke Fox)

BWo - Batwoman (Kate Kane)

BG - Batgirl

this may refer to Stephanie, Cass, or Babs - if you are looking for specific batgirl content, check out my characterfirstname!batgirl tag

O - Oracle (Barbara Gordon)

SM - Superman (Clark Kent)

SB - Superboy

this may refer to Connor or Jon - if you are looking for specific superbly content, search them by their names (Connor Kent/Kon El and Jon Kent)

WW - Wonder Woman (Diana Prince)

GL - Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

AM - Aquaman (Arthur Curry)

F - Flash (Barry Allen)

GA - Green Arrow (Oliver Queen)

MM - Martian Manhunter (John Jones)

CM/S - Captain Marvel/Shazam (Billy Batson)

JL - Justice League

BF - Batfam

TT - Teen Titans

FF - Flashfam

HQ - Harley Quinn

JG - Jim Gordon

As - Arsenal (Roy Harper)

SG - Supergirl (Kara Zor-El)

PI - Poison Ivy (Pamela Isely)

LL - Lois Lane

CW - Catwoman (Selina Kyle)

TAG - Talia al Ghul

RAG - Ra’s al Ghul

HG - Hawkgirl (Shiera Hall)

Tr - Troia (Donna Troy)

KF - Kid Flash (Wally West)

AA - Agent A (Alfred Pennyworth)

WG - Wonder Girl (Cassandra Sandsmark)

Im - Impulse (Bart Allen)

SF - Starfire (Koriand’r)

JC - John Constantine

At - Arowette (Cissie King Jones)

For characters that have had multiple hero names:

the format of their posts as them as a specific character follows this format: #characterfirstname!title. For example, if you are looking for posts specifically of Dick Grayson as Robin instead of Nightwing you would use the tag #dick!robin.

For character description posts:

the description of the character comes before their full name. Example - #bi!tim drake, #emo!bruce Wayne

Some other fun, random tags I use often for specific types of content:

harassing bruce wayne is a valid pastime - people making bruce’s life hard on purpose

dc means disregard canon - DC slander posts

batdad - all posts of batman being a dad

the batman 2022 - specifically content pertaining to The Batman 2022 by Mark Reeves

battinson - specifically content pertaining to batman as portrayed by Robert Pattinson

batbros - male bat siblings interacting

batman rogues or batman villains - posts containing batman baddies

young justice 1998

core four - group interactions of Tim, Bart, Connor, and Cassie

redesign - fan art of character redesigns

analysis - breakdowns of characters' personalities, story arcs, and motivations

WLW - lesbian :)

DC pride - all things LGBT+ and DC

Timber - tim drake x bernard down

Timkon - tim drake x connor kent

Dickory - dick grayson x koriand’r

Dickbabs - dick grayson x barbara gordon

Batcat - bruce wayne x selina Kyle

Superbat - bruce wayne x clark kent

Superwonderbat - bruce Wayne x clark kent x diana prince

Trinity - superwonderbat but platonic

Stephcass - stephanie brown x cassandra cain

Fake Twitter

batblob - batman when he is shaped

under the cape - bruce keeps his children under his batman cape

Comic recs or Comic guide

jason todd is a little shit

jason todd is a bad influence

18+ only and nsfm - mature content not suitable for younger audiences (not safe for minors)

Superbros - interactions between Kon and Jon

#tags guide #BBB tag guide #will update as I remember more tags and develop new ones #cant promise that all posts will be perfectly tagged #but I will try #last update: 5/9/22

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kidflashimpulse · 1 year

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Hey there! So I want to start writing some fics for bart and I want to make sure they are as accurate as possible and he's kinda the main point of your blog so I was wondering if you could give me like a rundown of his character, how he behaves, what his trauma is like stuff like that. If it's to long to post let me know and I'll message you privately

hey :) that’s exciting, looking forward to reading them 🤩 honestly i could give u a run down but i do think a lot of things i feel strongly about r largely personal interpretations of his character from what we’ve seen + extra trivia, especially on things like trauma. Ill edit later to link u to some think pieces/previous asks where i fleshed out some specifics about his characterisation/background cause honestly to fully answer this question id probably end up writing the equivalent of a fic 😭 lol but the thing is, even if i don’t entirely agree with others views on the matters, other approaches/perspectives on him can lead to really interesting plot/character exploration/stories that id still love to read about! so whilst i might have a general outline on his characterisation, i think it’s also important to go along with what u personally interpret/feel. Also it depends whether ur specifically asking about his yj tv or comics iteration? Though honestly, the core aspects of my answers to both would be pretty similar. But i’ll answer in terms of YJ as that’s very much the point of my blog like u mentioned lol

i think what might also be worth mentioning are traps that some writers (including myself) can fall into that r worth avoiding and why:

- adhd/speed is his full personality

like yes he can be excitable/hyper with his head in the clouds and yes he can be cute about it, but that’s not his only personality trait, he can be serious about things, cocky/bit of an asshole, but also sweet and sincere/speak his mind, but also dubious. He’s multifaceted/complex that way (layered just like anyone can be tbh). It all depends on the situation and seeing how he acts in the series it a good call to see how it can be mirrored/further portrayed in other situations.

- he’s a character that needs babysitting

again yes, it’s common that a lot of his friendships/relationships have a tolerance type of aspect to it, but people he’s at the very least good friends with genuinely like him and have a dynamic that’s on equal footing, some authors can accidentally infantilise him too much which is just not the way to go with him.

- he’s so traumatised that he needs therapy asap

this isn’t to say life is a breeze for him or that he doesn’t/can’t have deep issues. I mean he literally comes from a post-apocalyptic society, that’s pretty troubling. It has lead to traits like how he’s notably desensitised to things like death, has sticky fingers (tendency to steal), doesn’t really have any problem with lying nor confrontation. But from what we have seen he seems to be incredibly adaptable to situations as well as very happy/comfortable in his current time. And i really don’t think the answer to why he can live a comfortable life in the present is because he’s had therapy. I don’t think he’s visibly stuck on any particular trauma (not that he doesn’t have any, they just don’t weigh him down as much as it could) and that as a result of his background, he has a much higher than average threshold for what it takes to get him to break down. I think just because he’s not caught up on what could be personal traumas, doesn’t mean it doesn’t come without it’s issues. Being desensitised to that extent can come with its own problems and i think he has a different set of values than the average person on the team. I think an interesting approach to this is that his “issues” would come about in unexpected/uncomfortable ways/circumstances that can affect his normal relationships like with his family (jay/barry particularly).

- he has complexes about his intelligence/capability/being a hero

personally, i really don’t think this is/should be a trait of his. He IS intelligent/capable and a hero point blank period. Just because he might have an unconventional way of doing/seeing things, doesn’t mean it brings these things into question, atleast, in terms of how HE views himself. Doesn’t mean others won’t have their issues with it for whatever reason, but generally he’s a pretty confident guy to the point of being cocky. Not in the sense that he’s a total dick about it, but because he knows he’s that good and is proud of it. Now this is an interesting trait because i think it actually plays quite nicely with his airheaded/strange moments. I don’t think he fakes them necessarily, maybe plays it up but only because he’s having fun and LIKES having fun too, as well as because he doesn’t want to advertise certain things because of whatever agenda he may have.

a lot of this is a mix of what i consider instrinsic to his characterisation but also personal interpretations. Just because i think he can be cocky, doesn’t mean i don’t think he doesn’t have any insecurities. If anything reading a fic about it would be so interesting (and there have been many that have dealt with it amazingly). All these traits/views don’t exist in binary and can be nicely complimented with other takes/interpretations of them. As long as ur passionate about the story and his character, i think ultimately u can write a really cool story which id be so excited to read. Even if he’s just going clothes shopping and nothing would arise to all that i’ve mentioned, it would still be fun to read. It’s ultimately all just fun :)

Everything i described, can sound a bit confusing, so i’m sorry about that lol. I hope the asks I will link will help too! I think checking out his TV tropes section (Kid Flash II) is also useful, it gives a pretty good rundown on a fair amount of his traits.

here’s also a part of another section that i really like too lol

in terms of general facts, these might also help:

- he’s gay.

- he does go to school (he was enrolled pretty soon after his arrival to the present) .

- he has brown hair (i’m sorry but whenever i read he has red hair i literally frown LOL).

- he is the son of meloni thawne (this one is more his general comic lore but everyone pretty much takes it as canon so, since we are on this topic he has a half brother owen mercer (son of captain boomerang) and his cousin is Jenni (daughter of Dawn)).

- he doesn’t know every single thing that happens to every hero/person in the future, especially since the timeline has completely changed from his original one. What he does know, is subject to debate and it’s always interesting to see what direction different authors take it. What i believe has direct confirmation from greg as well as was suggested in the series is that he for example didn’t know artemis was undercover and that kaldur was a double agent. This could suggest literally anything (they died during that time/they die much later down the line/ they survived but alliances became vague under the mutual threat of a world apocalypse etc)

- he doesn’t want to return to his “original time” it kind of goes without saying but it’s been made pretty clear in the series. He feels relatively at home in the present. Doesn’t necessarily mean he doesn’t miss some things/people from his past though.

- whilst he is pretty lax about having a secret identity, he still has one. Jay doesn’t have one and is a public hero. Do with that what u will lol

- this one is only “suggested” based on the fact that no one saw him off when he left to the present. It’s suggested that his parents are dead.

for now i can’t think of anything else, if i do i’ll edit it in. Hope this was somewhat helpful :)

#YJ asks #bart allen #bart allen analysis #impulse #kid flash #young justice #yj #dc #fanfic

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heliotropion · 2 years

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wait hold up.

so kon has canonically been compared to peter pan in comics. because he wasn't meant to grow up and all the shadow stuff.

meanwhile, one constant of bart's characterization is that he never stops believing and having faith, even when all odds are agaisnt him

which is also. a big part of wendy's character in the peter pan stories, where everyone tells her she should grow up but she won't let go of the neverland stories

in case you weren't getting my point, i'm telling you that bart and kon are 20th century peter pan and wendy, thank you for your attention

#this has been on my mind for MONTHS #bartkon my beloved <3 they really only exist to pick at your brain and make u think of all the analysis u could do #dc comics #bartkon #konbart #bart allen #impulse #kid flash #kon el #conner kent #superboy #young justice 1998

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joanofarccoded · 3 years

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hi, flash analysis time!

okay so i won't lie, i haven't seen an episode of the flash since cisco left, but i just watched a clip from 7x17 where bart gets upset at barry from assuming he doesn't know the weight of using thawne's name. he slams the desk in frustration, lightning courses through him, he's mad

but what i wanna talk about is nora. the way she tried to defuse the situation makes me think she's done something like that before. we all know bart's a momma's boy, and so maybe he and barry have had arguments like that in his youth, in the future. nora seems calm yet a bit shaken. i think maybe she's learned over the years how to calm her brother's rage, how to keep him from blowing up on a greater level. i think at times she can be a little scared of bart. that's not to say he's a big, scary monster, but seeing her brother mad like that? a bit jarring.

maybe i'm pulling this all from thin air, like i said, i haven't watched recent eps, but i'm interested to know other people's perspectives on this.

#the flash #cw the flash #the flash analysis #bart west allen #barry allen #nora west allen #xs #impulse #tornado twins #textpost #zoë.txt #the flash 7x17

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yjwhatif · 4 years

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What is going on with Bart?! (Part 1)

Ok I am definitely the only one who thinks this - but there is something weird going on with Bart in the last episode - or more specifically post X-pit... let me explain.

Bart is a pretty underused character throughout S3 and doesn’t play any major part in the final episode, yet there’s one moment that grabs my attention every time I see it - and that’s the moment when Bart elbows Garfield in the middle of Jeffs really important speech.

Jeff: Like the Outsiders, we must live in each other’s spotlight

Ok yes that is kinda a very Bart thing to do - his way of complimenting Gar for his achievements leading the outsiders - but it’s the fact that he doesn’t react in a regretful/apologetic way when Gar calls out in pain - he just stands there grinning at his clear injured friend and doesn’t bat an eyelid. (Also, does anyone else think Bart has a really evil/sadistic look to him in this shot - because I do and I can’t help but find it odd.)

Another thing about this scene is that not only is Bart front and centre in the panning shot of heroes (which I’ll come back to in part 2) - but he is completely separated from the two people he is usually paired with onscreen - and that’s Ed and Jaime who are both placed together at the very back of the shot. Now when I say ‘usually paired with’ I mean ALWAYS - excluding ’Homefires’ (though that is the first ep to show Ed’s in S3 - so I say it still counts) Bart is either next to Ed or Jaime or both - l know because I checked.

That is until they all come out of the pit - then something seems to change with the trio, for Bart appears to constantly isolate himself from the other two...

Now you probably think I sound mad, that I’m just reading too much into it the layout (as usual) but it’s there - it’s subtle - but it’s definitely there. Like I’ve highlighted with the season as a whole Bart is usually stood with E/J - it highlights his connection to them and establishes their specific friendship in comparison to the rest of the characters. Composition is important - especially in seating arrangements.

At the beginning of ‘Into the Breach’ Bart takes the front most central seat which draws attention to him - being the speedster he is he is always running headfirst into any situation with confidence - so he is at the very front of the ship and closest to the action. Then he has Ed sat in the seat next to him - this allows for them to share a two shot and again reinforce their connection - which they definitely have (see my post about Ed’s powers - there’s a few). This quick shot tells a lot - the angle even gives the impression that Bart is closer to Ed than Vic, which increases their divide - he doesn’t know Vic or maybe trust him yet, unlike he does with Ed. While Vic seems closer to Blue because we know they’ve previously made a connection offscreen - “Bluebeetle taught me that one”.

Yet fast forward to the scene at the premiere building post x-pit and thinking they’ve lost big time - when you look close there is a definite dynamic change between the trio. Though they are still grouped together, they are actually divided - the chairs divide them - whilst Ed and Jaime share the same sofa, Bart is on his own and thereby isolating himself from his friends. But not only that, look at the way he’s sat compared to everyone else - he is the only one with crossed legs. Whilst the others all mimic the same body language - hunched over, hands on knees, legs apart - they are all united in their defeat - but Bart is alone.

Noticeable again after Vic and the others return, Bart is on his own, the furthest away from the group - he is now the one hiding at the back - which is a big change from the shot on the bioship. Something has changed for him - he can’t connect with the two people we know he cares for.

It continues into ‘Nevermore’, this time on the bioship the trio are to the back - the dynamic they last had on the ship has altered massively. Ed now sits on his own side completely separated from Bart and Jaime - this may account for his own feelings of guilt (see my Outsiders in turmoil posts) - he feels he needs to distance himself because of his own failures. Yet he is still in line with Jaime - like in the all the previous shots post pit, he remains on equal ground with Jaime. But for Bart, he is disconnected and hiding at the very back - he has lost the confidence to be front and centre on missions and with his friends - but why?

They all experienced the pit, yet Bart seems the most affected (in a subtle sort of way) - from confident and eager, he’s now isolated and hidden away. And yes, these are very subtle moments that you don’t notice - but because this is animation that makes the subtlety more important - because these are conscious decision being made and agreed upon - they are not random acting choices like in live action.

Now my final notice for this part 1 post - because this has become very long - is the scene just after Vic disappears to follow Granny - I’ve only just noticed this whilst gathering pics for this post and it’s actually blown my mind.

So I’ve always found this moment strange because to me it feels like Bart is almost blaming Ed for everything - and when you look at the shot it does look like everyones giving him evils. I don’t think that is what’s happening but I can imagine that’s what Ed thinks is happening. However what I realised this time round is that that is the real Bart we hear - not the one we’ve followed in S2&3 - but the cynical one of the future. For 10 seconds Bart finally breaks character and drops the mask to reveal his true self - the realist of the apocalypse. Maybe this is why he’s distancing himself - he didn’t come to the past to have fun and joke around - he was a kid with a job to do - and just because he’s done it doesn’t mean he should lose focus. Maybe the pit reawakened the ghosts of his past - the lives lost because of the apocalypse - the lives that could still be lost if that future still happens because he was too distracted to notice the signs.

Barts psyche has always been what fascinates me about his character - because the happy goofball we see isn’t even the real Bart - thats Wally and Barry he’s imitating - Bart has spent 3 or so years living in the guise of what he wants people to see - what he thinks they expect to see in the grandson of Barry Allen - which is mad. This is why I want more Bart - I wanna see what isn’t being shown to us - and I think the x-pit might just have unlocked that possibility. 🤞

- To be continued in Part 2 -