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the-delta-quadrant · 10 months

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people shitting on orientation labels that describe attraction to non-binary people because "non-binary isn't a single third gender" and "you can't tell by looking at someone if they're non-binary" is honestly wild, because:

a) i mean, you're right, there are many non-binary genders but people can still be attracted to a variety of those genders, including non-binary men and women. what's your point?

b) not all attraction is based on looking at someone. quite a bit of attraction is based on actually knowing someone. some people's attraction will appear or disappear when they find out that someone has a certain identity.

c) people only bring up "you can't tell by looking" when it comes to non-binary people, when you can't tell anyone's gender by looking at them. you can't go around proclaiming that non-binary gender doesn't have a look but then pretend that manhood and womanhood totally do. and the fact that people only ever bring this up to shit on explicitly stated attraction to non-binary people is just telling. it just feels like a way to say that it's basically impossible for people to be attracted to who we are, that we're always misgendered, that people can only be attracted to us when pretending we're binary, that our genders make us undesirable.

you all don't do the same thing to attraction to men or women, despite manhood and womanhood not having looks, despite manhood and womanhood not being monolithic experiences.

it's weird that we keep being singled out as the weird people to be attracted to. you all just can't bear that people actually acknowledge our existence and actually desire us.

#queer #mogai #lgbt #lgbtq+#gsrm #lgbt+#genderqueer #nonbinary #trans #maverique #elsegender #transgender #non binary #enby #exorsexism

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anentitee · 1 year

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y’all cannot be making points about the trans community by solely focusing on transmascs and transfems. other expanses of transness and gender-nonconforming experiences along with their differing labels/expressions exist and deserve to be recognized

#black lesbian #agender #xenogender #elsegender #trans #transxenine #transneutral #transmasc #transfem #lgbtq #nonbinary #gender nonconforming #gnc

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neopronouns-in-action · 9 months

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So can we start calling this the progress trans flag and using this, or is that too radical a concept for people in 2023?

[ID: A version of the progress trans flag with eight horizontal stripes of: purple, black, blue, pink, white, yellow, black, and brown. In the center are concentric circles of black, dark purple, and gold. End ID.]

Explicitly include nonbinary and intersex people in the trans pride flag. Not just “including nonbinary people” as a single single white stripe for people with “neutral” genders that 99% of people don’t even know is for nonbinary people, and instead think is there to represent transitioning.

If you want support nonbinary people, one small step is to explicitly include us in the trans pride flag, and not just by lumping all of us together into a single “neutral” category that seems like it’s only there to separate the pink and blue stripes.

I’m tired of binary people, both cis and trans, promoting exorsexism and erasing and speaking over nonbinary people. If the pride flag can change to explicitly include and support trans people and people of color, then the trans flag can change too.

Being trans is not just for binary men and women. It’s not just for perisex people or white people. It’s 2023. How about we put the most erased parts of our community front and center in the trans community, and how about the rest of the trans community be proud to fight with us?

There are three main versions of this flag, with the most simplified version up top.

Symmetrical version:

[ID: Three versions of the trans progress pride flag, both with symetrical horizontal stripes of purple, black, blue, pink, yellow, white, yellow, pink, blue, black, and purple. The first version includes a brown sideways chevron, followed by a gold triangle of the intersex flag, with the dark purple circle in the center. The second version has a brown diamond in the center, with concentric circles of black, dark purple, and gold inside it. The third version has only the stripes. End ID.]

The white and yellow stripe on this six-striped version are reversed so that the white stripe, like the black, is easy to see against all background colors.

[ID: Two versions of the six-striped version of the trans progress pride flag, with stripes of purple, black, blue, pink, white, and yellow. The first version includes a brown sideways chevron, followed by a gold triangle of the intersex flag, with the purple circle in the center. The second version has a brown diamond in the center, with concentric circles of black, dark purple, and gold inside it. The third version has only the stripes. End ID.]

Here is the web archive link where you can download the HD versions of these flags, including the symbols:

“https://archive.org/details/progress-trans-flag”

Do not add images to this post unless they include a plain text image description in the body of the post directly below the image.

ALT text is not accessible for everyone who needs an image description. Plain text image descriptions are the most accessible option. That’s why I used an image description and not ALT text.

Please also do not suggest replacements or variations of this flag that leave out the black, white, purple, or yellow. They were all chosen for a reason. You can add other colors if you want, but removing the purple, yellow, black, or white is just as egregious as removing the blue or pink would be.

The black, white, yellow, and purple all represent forms of identity outside the binary. Combining the black and white into grey erases so many people and completely misunderstands the purpose of those stripes.

These are the baseline colors for the flag, you can customize them via less saturation, darkness, ect, when making art or using it for your own purposes. You do not need to color pick directly from this flag any time you use it.

Edit 12/10/23: go read this post too.

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themaveriqueagenda · 10 months

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it bothers me when people use "gendered" synonymously with "binary gendered"/"male/female/masc/fem gendered", because that still implies that those are the only two options, the only two real genders, when in fact there are so many people who are gendered in ways those people probably wouldn't comprehend. like, i have seen people describe maverique as "not having gendered feelings" before, which is only true if you mean binary gendered (and neutrally gendered), which only works if you think male and female are the only existing genders. it's subtle, but it still has implications.

same goes for "nonbinary people don't want to be gendered". i mean, yeah, a lot of us don't, even those who do have genders, but others very much do. i want to be gendered as maverique, just not as binary. that's part of why i use neopronouns rather than they/them, because to me, my neopronouns feel gendered in a way that's specific to me, whereas they/them pronouns are often referred to as non-gendered pronouns.

of course, most people will only know to view me in a binary-gendered way or in a non-gendered way, so i choose non-gendered, but that doesn't mean that me and many other non-binary people are necessarily non-gendered ourselves.

gendered =/= binary, as there are more than two genders.

#elsegender #lgbt #maverique #maverique pride #nonbinary #queer #genderqueer #mogai #lgbtq+#trans #actually maverique #maverique visibility #abinary #enby #non binary #transgender

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fuchsadler · 9 months

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A Thing That Bugs Me In A Specific Type Of Headcanon

First and foremost: I'm personally a big fan of headcanons and have quite a few myself

But there's something about a specific type of headcanon that really bugs me: That people more often then not will immediately resort to they/them pronouns for characters they headcanon as elsegender/non-binary of some sort (this specifically excludes instances of fanfic where the character said to use those pronouns, in that case it's fine)

Yes, there's a lot of non-binary people using exclusively they/them pronouns

But there's also non-binary people using exclusively she/her pronouns

There's non-binary people using exclusively he/him pronouns

There's non-binary people using exclusively it/its pronouns

There's non-binary people using exclusively neopronouns

There's non-binary people using multiple sets of pronouns in whatever combination

There's non-binary people using no pronouns at all

And there's the fact that pronouns are for everyone, so anyone of any gender can use any amount of whatever pronouns they want!

#headcanon #non binary #pronouns #gender identity #elsegender #fanfiction #fanfic #they/them #it/its #she/her #he/him #no pronouns #neopronouns #headcanons

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rjalker · 9 months

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And one version of the post with just the simplest version.

Here's the expanded post.

Here's the web archive link to download this flag, and the other versions, in HD.

The trans progress flag, created to explicitly include intersex people, nonbinary people, and people of color.

This flag is public domain because I created it and I said so. You are allowed to do anything you want with it, including sell things you make with it.

The only thing I ask is that if you share it to other sites or repost it, copy and paste the image description I am including below.

[ID: The trans progress flag, with stripes of purple, black, blue, pink, white, yellow, black, and brown. In the center are concentric circles of black, purple, and gold. End ID.]

These are the baseline colors for the flag. You are under zero obligation to color pick directly from here when making art or crafts.

Do not add undescribed images to this post. If you are going to add images, they must include a plain-text image description in the body of the post. ALT text is not accessible to everyone who needs an image description.

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soong-type-notinuse · 2 years

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aptobinary

i already kinda coined this term, but someone tried falsely explaining my own term to me so i'm gonna make an official coining post to clear up any misunderstandings.

in short, aptobinary describes anyone who fits the gender binary. this is about gender itself, as in the identity, not gender presentation.

people who would be considered aptobinary:

people who exclusively, at all times and wholly identify as women, girls or female, with their female identity being feminine in nature

people who exclusively, at all times and wholly identity as men, boys or male, with their male identity being masculine in nature

people who would not be considered aptobinary:

genderless, agender and similar people

aphorians and other people who's genders are removed from maleness and femaleness

people with genders that are in between male and female

xenogender and kenochoric people

multigender, genderfluid, demigender and similar people, even if they consider themselves to be binary due to being male and/or female

men whose male identity is feminine, androgynous, outherine, xenine or anything else other than masculine

women whose female identity is masculine, androgynous, outherine, xenine or anything else other than feminine

the last two refer to identities such as cettreur or cettrix, which describe an outherine manhood or an outherine womanhood, this is again about identity, and not about gender presentation.

one could also say that aptobinary people are people who are always, fully and exclusively either mingender men/boys or fingender women/girls.

this term is important to refer to people who have the privilege to not experience structural exorsexism, as opposed to nonbinary, genderqueer, elsegender and other people who don't fit the gender binary, in the linked post at the start of this post i already went over why other terms do not work.

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bilesproblems · 9 months

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Are nonbinary people inherently included in lesbian? Or all sexualities for that matter?

[PT: Are nonbinary people inherently included in lesbian? Or all sexualities for that matter? End PT]

This question is asked because I've seen people say that bi lesbians like myself are excluding nonbinary people from being lesbians, or that our labels are unnecessary, because "every sexuality inherently includes nonbinary people!" This is actually a false statement and I want to deconstruct why.

Note: I am bigender. I am a hypergirl and deminonbinary/demiaporagender. I view my enbyness and enby gender as a third gender.

Important terms that I will be using:

Elsegender: A more inclusive term for people of varying genders. Not all people view themselves as nonbinary just because they aren't binary men or binary women. I used nonbinary in the title because it's more popularly included in the statement I'm debunking.

Elsegender, ext: Someone who is elsegender is someone who does not identify as a man or a woman, or does, but they either don't identify as a binary man/woman, don't identify as a full man or full woman, only identify as a man or woman sometimes, or identify as both a man and a woman and feel included under elsegender. Elsegender includes a lot of genders and gender modalities or experiences.

Full moon springtide bi/mspec lesbian/lunian: Someone who identifies as a bi lesbian, mspec lesbian, and/or lunian who experiences attraction that is traditionally considered exclusively lesbian attraction. They are not attracted to men or masculinely aligned genders unless those men/masc people are genderfluid, multigender, or otherwise a woman or elsegender. It is up to the specific person if those masc people are included in their attraction. Unlike bi lesbians who are repeatedly excluded from being lesbians and told they're actually just bi, these bi lesbians are repeatedly excluded from bisexuality and told they can just be a lesbian if they give up their bi identity.

Lesbian: https://www.tumblr.com/redtail-lol/717897870015135744/my-take-on-a-definition-for-lesbian?source=share

Bi: Attracted to 2 or more genders, in one form of attraction. Has had other definitions, including "attracted to genders like and unlike your own" and both definitions are valid. Not inherently attracted to all genders but can be

Mspec: Attracted to 2 or more genders. They don't have to be in the same form of attraction

Lunian: An mspec lesbian

Mspec lesbian: A lesbian who is mspec

Bi lesbian: A lesbian who is bi.

Okay. Now I am finally at the point. I can answer the question: are elsegender people inherently included in every sexuality, including lesbian?

The answer is no. A resounding no.

There is a massive difference between inclusion and inherent inclusion. Using lesbian as an example, elsegender people being included in lesbian means elsegender people can identify as lesbians, (exclusive) lesbians can feel attracted to elsegender people, and elsegender people can be in lesbian relationships. Elsegender people being inherently included in lesbian means *every* elsegender person who is (exclusively) attracted to women and to other elsegender people is a lesbian and *every* lesbian is attracted to elsegender people. Which is just... Not the case, and harmful.

Not all people are going to be attracted to elsegender people. Not all lesbians, not all veldians, not all straight men or straight women, not all bi people, not all trixics and torics, and no feminamorics or viramorics. Not all sexualities include elsegender people at all, and only those that specify attraction to elsegender people inherently include them (see: enbian, trixenamoric, pansexual, etc.)

Not all elsegender people are comfortable calling themselves straight, gay/veldian, or lesbian, nor are they all comfortable being with someone who calls themselves one of these labels, because these words are all heavily connotated with binary gender love. Inherently including elsegender people into all sexualities misgenders them.

Being inherently included in lesbian can make some elsegender people feel like they're just viewed as women. There was a large debate on the inclusion of elsegender people in binary connotated orientations, and while some of the pushback was just from exclusionists who didn't want their labels "invaded" by people who had historical proof they'd always been there, but a lot of it was from elsegender people who didn't want to feel like they were just women or just men. The solution is an opt-in and opt-out system. You opt in to the labels that you want. You choose if you're trixic, straight, or a lesbian. Meanwhile, you can't stop a lesbian from liking you, but you can decide to not go out with them because you don't feel comfortable being with a lesbian and feel misgendered by that. That's normal inclusion. Inherent inclusion is anti-enby and also ignores all monosexuals. People who are only attracted to one gender exist and it's wrong to erase them.

If you believe elsegender people are inherently included in every orientation, you also believe:

Everyone is mspec, OR elsegender people do not have separate genders from 'man' and 'woman.' They're just spicy men or spicy women. Men lite or women lite.

All lesbians are mspec lesbians, OR elsegender people are just women, therefore making full moon springtide bi/mspec lesbians/lunians monosexual.

Lesbians are never exclusively attracted to women, OR elsegender people are just women

Bi and lesbian are actually not mutually exclusive, OR bi people must like men AND women in order to be bi.

Even if we pretended that this idea wasn't horribly enbyphobic and monophobic, it still doesn't invalidate full moon springtide bi lesbians because there are mspec neptunic flags while neptunic is an inherently mspec label, so having the specifier isn't excluding elsegender people from the label.

#mspec lesbian #bi lesbian #mspec lesbian safe #bi lesbian safe #pro mspec lesbian #pro bi lesbian #mspec lesbian positivity #bi lesbian positivity #nonbinary #enby #women and enby genders aren't just one gender babyyyy #lesbian #bi lesbians are valid #mspec lesbians #mspec lesbian discourse #bi lesbian discourse #elsegender

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inaturalist-propaganda · 11 months

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June 1st, 2023, day 8 of the iNaturalist staff proving how much they hate trans people:

iNaturalist staff, who literally get paid to be decent people, have decided that calling out transmisia is malicious, but purposefully being transmisic and purposefully misgendering trans people isn't!

Check my pinned post for more information and ways you can help!

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redtail-lol · 9 months

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I wanted to make a veldian flag (or whatever term you want to use for it, I like veldian because it sounds good) to match my lesbian flag.

[Image ID 1: A 7 striped flag. Colors, in order, are: purple; light indigo; sky blue; turquoise; light green; pale lime-yellow. End ID.]

[Image ID 2: The same flag, with words over each stripe corresponding to their meaning. Purple is femininity and those tied to it. Light indigo is queer love of men. Sky blue is masculinity. Turquoise is gay history and diversity. Light green is gender nonconformity. Pale lime-yellow is nonbinary gays and nblm/mlnb love. End ID.]

[Image ID 3: The same flag as the first, but the bottom three colors are flipped so it starts with yellow.]

I am not a veldian so I made this in consultation with people who were. I don't wanna replace the current one, because I really like it, but I needed a matching one to my lesbian flag for a request. It does not have a name, but if any veldians like it, please submit any name ideas in the comments and I'll make a poll about what to name it.

Anyway. Stripe meanings, fully explained

1. Femininity and those tied to it: This was going to be the gnc stripe but I decided green fit that one better, and this better fit femininity. Feminine men are a very large part of the gay community, though this stripe represents more than just them! It also represents those who are trans and still feel connected to their AGAB, or those who are turigirls. It can also represent how men who like men are inherently perceived as feminine even if they aren't in any other way.

2. Queer love of men: No matter your gender, pretty much all veldians have a queer love of men. This stripe represents that love

3. Masculinity: Not all gay men are effeminate. Some of them are masculine, and masculinity in the gay community presents in many ways. Of course, masculinity doesn't only refer to presentation. It can also refer to gender alignment or connection.

4. Unity: Despite how wide and diverse the community is, and how many names it has, all of them are united as one large community and that's beautiful

5. Gay history and diversity: There is a rich history to gay men and the community of them, which deserves a place represented on the flag. The gay communities of the past and present are large and diverse, and have such a broad spectrum of people. All the ways you can be a veldian deserve to be represented because there are so many

6. Gender nonconformity: A large part of the gay community involves gender nonconformity. Even masculine veldians don't all conform to the idea of masculinity most straight people have (the image of a strong, muscle-y man.) And it's not just nonconformity for men; this stripe also represents the nonbinary gays who are feminine or masculine rather than androgynous.

7. Nonbinary gays and nblm/mlnb love: Nonbinary or elsegender people have grown to be a part of the veldian community, both in who can be veldian and who a veldian can love. While men who love men are at the center of this community, it's important to also remember the love between men and nonbinary folk.

This flag was made by an inclusionist. It stands in support of mspec veldians, gaybians/velaurians, turigirls, and others with contradictory labels. It also, of course, supports aro/ace/aroace veldians, trans veldians, and veldians of color. Anyone who identifies as a veldian, or with another name for the same label, may use this flag.

#gay #gay man #gay men #veldian #turian #vincian #alt flag #gay flag

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outherworldlycoining · 8 months

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Helio

This is a term I coined some years ago on twitter. I never got to post it on Tumblr, so I'm posting it here now.

Helio [Orientation]

[Image description: A four horizontal stripe flag, from top to bottom the colours of each stripe are: cerulean blue, pastel cerulean blue, pastel brown, and brown. /End image description.]

Helio is a label for anyone who want to express that an orientation of their refers to some kind of eriattraction without having to label their RoSe attraction or without having to depend on it. Useful for those who prioritise some or various forms of eriattraction over one or both RoSe attractions.

For example, a Helio Veldian/Turian would be someone who is a veldian/turian in one or more forms of non-rose attraction that they prioritise, regardless of their RoSe orientations.

It can be combined with several labels, for those who are varioriented/variangled regarding eriattraction.

The anattractional version (for those who priotitise being aspec in one or more forms of eriattraction) is Helio ay/aspec, Helio Athenian, or Helio Nullarian. Helio Zeroic could work for those who are also nonbinary/elsegender.

#tertiary orientation #orientation label

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the-delta-quadrant · 10 months

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*debinarises your periodic table*

flags: genderqueer, nonbinary, neutrois, multigender, genderfluid, bigender, agender, androgyne, xenogender

#queer #mogai #lgbt #lgbtq+#gsrm #lgbt+#genderqueer #nonbinary #elsegender #agender #bigender #multigender #xenogender #androgyne #neutrois #genderfluid

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your-bigender-big-brother · 10 months

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can I put in a request for some flags for terms that I can’t because I’m not the best at making flags /srs

so here are my requests,

Roselia - Juxera orientation towards women.

Caelorum - Juxera orientation towards men.

Chromasia - Juxera orientation towards androgynes/daen and similar people.

Astraia - Juxera orientation towards neutrois and similar people.

Spectruma - Juxera orientation towards xenogender people.

Luminalis - Juxera orientation towards people whose genders are outherine in nature.

Polaris - Juxera orientation towards any or all genderqueer/nonbinary/elsegender/not binary people.

Harmonia - Juxera orientation towards other Juxera individuals.

Below are your flags in order:

I hope you like them! The orange tulip represents understanding and appreciation. 💙💚

If you enjoy my content, please feel free to tip me here! It would help me out a lot!

#bbb.flags #bbb.ask #big-transfem-sister #juxera #juxera orientation #jlg #attraction flags #your bigender big brother

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trixic-culture-is · 1 year

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Trixic culture is using the term lesbian because its easier to explain, but also not wanting to let go of the term lesbian but not wanting to be a girl but not a boy but also not nothing help me

you don't have to let go of the term in order to be valid in your gender. trixic lesbians are valid and so are any nonbinary/elsegender lesbians. you're also not nothing for being neither a boy nor a girl.

#nblw #trixic #trixic culture is

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themaveriqueagenda · 10 months

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currently, the top post when you search tumblr for "maverique" is one where being on testosterone is equated with (trans)masculinity, and i wish people wouldn't use the maverique tag for posts in which people are called "transmasc" or "transfem" based on physical or social or legal transition steps, or simply not equate transition steps with certain identities. i'm not saying maveriques can't be transmasc or transfem, but part of maveriquehood is quite literally a disconnect from both masculinity and femininity, so it's extra weird to tag us in (trans)masc/fem-centric posts (that shouldn't be called that in the first place).

i'm maverique and i have consistently been misgendered by other gender-diverse people based on my transition steps, based on my AGAB and the assumed direction in which my transition is going. and funnily enough, this collective misgendering has actually stalled my transition because the assumed masculinity barely left me any space to explore further, i had to be masc or i was just cis.

instead of gendering transition steps based on cissexist and bioessentialist ideas (yes, flat chest = masculine, oestrogen = feminine etc. are literally recycled cissexism), we (you) should start to actually, properly include maveriques and everyone else who is misgendered based on transition steps.

people think transmasc and transfem are super inclusive terms but they're basically diet binary.

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fuchsadler · 10 months

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Rebel of Binaries

Fitting to my "Am I trans?" post, which you can find here: https://www.tumblr.com/fuchsadler/721550224644046848/am-i-trans?source=share

Here a poem I wrote a few weeks ago:

I'm not trans, I'm not cis, I'm not masc, I'm not fem, I'm not neutral, I'm not androgynous, I have multiple genders, and still I don't have one, all at once. I'm not a man, I'm not a woman, not neither, not both. I'm me, a rebel for binaries. I'm chaos but well organised, I'm human but not entirely, I'm me, the rebel of binaries.

#personal #gender #queer #writer things #endity #genderfluid #maverique #chaosgender #elsegender #gender stuff #gender identity #genderqueer #non binary #mogai #pride #my poem #queer pride #queer poems

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