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#gay subtext always makes every movie better
strangenewwords · 7 months
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Just cause I'm in a Roth place, and just in case anyone forgot/didn't know, Mr. Orange and Mr. White being lovers is totally a thing and adds a whole different element to this movie.
“Gay subtext always makes every movie better.” – Quentin Tarantino
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knowlesian · 2 years
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I enjoyed your OFMD meta so much, I wondered your opinion on the symbolism of oranges in that show and in Goncharov — I mean, when Katya tries to win over Goncharov by taking him on a tour of the Moscow subways, and sends her gang of thugs to buy oranges from that “babushka” — I’m not imagining the parallel in OFMD, am I?
first off thank you, and second: absolutely! we already know david came in with movies like butch cassidy in mind and imo there is absolutely zero chance david and co didn’t see goncharov, too. the thematic overlap zones and then ultimate subversion on the meaning of the film is way too close to be coincidental.
forgive me for going a little broader before i focus on the katya and goncharov courtship flashbacks, because i really am over the moon about the connections here and how the ofmd writers repurpose old themes and storylines only to steer them in entirely new directions.
in goncharov we’ve got scorsese doing his... i’m gonna call it his best attempt at capturing the feel of russian lit. goncharov’s men are angry, explosive, and ultimately doomed. fated to die, unable to avoid How Things Are; the narrow limitations of their own understanding what is acceptable masculinity and what is not means they stay children, playing at war.
(and while scorsese is always gonna scorsese when it comes to the women in his films, katya and sofia make out better than most. i’m endlessly impressed with the way ofmd improved on that foundation; the vibe between those two isn’t NOT hiding in plain sight between mary and evelyn in ofmd, i’m js)
leaving the somewhat flimsy overall politics of goncharov aside, it does a pretty good job handling the overall ‘these expectations are actually killing more people than ice picks’ thrust. 
i think it’s really interesting how the oranges in ofmd function as sort of... depending on how you look at it, love/family/growth beat, especially when we look at katya’s attempts to reach out and make the best of a marriage of convenience and how that calls back to some of mary’s efforts in the flashbacks we see in e4.
it’s not the same orange, but it IS? somehow?
because like, look: i wouldn’t say this was an intentional creative choice from scorsese, but like every huge interpersonal problem in goncharov could be solved if the narrative just... let people be gay? 
(this is semi-joking oversimplification. i get that letting a scene about eating anchovy or gelato drop the subtext and just be about oral sex does not actually solve world hunger, but also. only semi-joking.)
katya attempts to use her family’s enforcers to obtain sustenance; and by that sustenance, eventually obtain love.
it’s poison fruit/poison tree. 
...you know, in a way i think the emotional equivalent to stede and ed and the orange in goncharov is actually the gelato scene, and the oranges in goncharov are actually an inversion of the orange in ofmd. especially since i totally forgot until now that we get that lingering shot of katya’s oranges sitting out in that weird glass bowl until the housekeeper throws them away, which... probably there’s some class stuff to be said about that bit too, but for now i’m obsessed with how when you keep that in mind, no WONDER we get the petrified orange in ofmd. 
katya didn’t go get those oranges herself; they were obtained impersonally and i think ultimately foreshadow the end of the movie. they’re food that could have been eaten by someone who actually ...you know, wanted oranges at all, wasted on a marriage that was over before it ever began. 
and then we have stede’s orange, impervious to rot and time and representing a family that became a real family for the first time ever on stede’s final departure, because they let go of the old expectations for what family (and love) even means and also stede’s love for ed and the crew, etc etc etc.
ugh. u g h. the 4d chess the ofmd writers play here splitting themes and characters so we get the oranges in a different context and through different food is so amazing. no 1:1′s!!! what a galaxy brained bunch of bastards. hate them.
anyway i’m sure there’s a bunch more here (and i didn’t even yell about how ofmd takes the borderline nihilistic commentary on time in goncharov and spins it into a show that insists no literally: if you’re alive, there’s still time. you can always change which is like... so, so perfect) but yeah!!!! i agree, i think the parallels are unmistakable.
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bnwthinking · 1 year
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I want to get more into classic literature. Any recommendations? Your taste is awesome. (I'm mainly interested in romantic literature. Major bonus points if it's gay. But I'm up for any kind of classic literature.)
omg thanks for this question!! i love giving recs on this shit lol
ancient queer stuff
'collected works of sappho' is always good place to start, i would recommend anne carson's translation. it is not the most literal in translation but it is the best version in my opinion for understanding the gay emotions that sappho was trying to to convey.
on that note, i would also recommend reading enheduanna's 'poems for the goddess inanna'. think of her as sappho's elder, she was a sumerian poet and the first person we know to have ever created a collection of poems and signed her name to it. she was also very queer.
'the iliad' is also very very gay!! i dont have a favourite translation, my fave greek translator hasn't covered it yet but deffo check homer out.
classic (or modern classic) queer stuff
'orlando' by virginia woolf - a book about a man that wakes up as a woman one day and also immortal. the book is a bisexual in everyway love letter to vita sackville-west, the arguable love of virginia woolf's life. also would recommend reading 'mrs dalloway' or 'a room of one's own' by woolf and literally anything written by vita who was an established writer, too.
'giovanni's room' by james baldwin - this book was really important in my coming out process when i was a teenager. its about letting yourself be loved when you've been raised in shame. james baldwin's writing is a gift. check out his poetry if you're into poetry fs. i also really like baldwin's 'tell me how long the train's been gone'
'the well of loneliness' by radclyffe hall - not a personal fave of mine but definitely an important piece of lesbian literature.
'maurice' by e.m forster - forster hid this book from the world until his death. its about gay happiness and he knew if publishers got their hands on it they would make it about gay sadness. it was publish how forster wanted in the 1970's even though he wrote it in like 1917 or something lol
'the price of salt' by patricia highsmith - the novel that the movie carol is based off of
'the city and the pillar' by gore vidal
'better angel' by forman brown
the dark bisexual quartet that is : mary shelley's 'frankenstein', bram stoker's 'dracula', oscar wilde's 'the picture of dorian gray' and joseph le fanu's 'carmilla'
'rebecca' by daphne du maurier - i love 'rebecca' because it so bisexual and nasty but anything by daphne is a big rec from me!! she was openly bi and it's very evident in her work lol.
'the bell jar' by sylvia plath - the original manic pixie bisexual. i try to read 'the bell jar' once every couple of years.
'the charioteer' by mary renault - mary renault was one of the first people to write gay fiction in the uk in a positive light and her work was frequently banned!!
'Q.E.D' by gertrude stein
'yellow rose' by yoshiya nobuko - she wrote a lot of lesbian lit but 'yellow rose' is one of her only stories translated into english
'tales of a mask' by yukio mishima
'patience and sarah' by isabelle miller
'the color purple' by alice walker - gay but depressing as all fuck however literary wise, the writing is incredible. taught me a lot about voice and perspective.
'the great gatsby' by f. scott fitzgerald - easy to read, so damn short and the most subtext to ever subtext. fitz was a shit but whatever.
non specifically queer classic stuff
'tess of the d'urbervilles' or 'jude the obscure' by thomas hardy - hardy owned my arse when i was a teenager lol, i would consider these two of my fave books ever.
'wuthering heights' by emily bronte - divisive as always. its a book people either love or hate. its also a confusing read and i would recommend looking up a character map if you do attempt it. however, i'm one of the people that thinks 'wuthering heights' lives up the hype and the first time i read it it broke me.
'pride and prejudice' by jane austen - like wuthering heights but fun!
'the mill on the floss' by george eliot - 'silar marner' is good, too but i like mill better. i wrote my entrance essay for uni on it and my ma used to read it to me when i was little.
'metamorphosis' by franz kafka - anything by kafka is good tbh
'the second sex' by simone de beauvoir - important read that helped me understand a lot about early 20th century feminism, the good and the bad. the book i consider the foundation for a lot of what has come since.
'the lord of the rings' by jrr tolkien - idk if you're looking for fantasy (if you are let me know i'll make another list lol) but if you haven't read lotr, i promise it is better than you can ever imagine. tolkien also lives up to the hype.
lovecraft. start with the cthulhu mythos and branch out from there. 'the call of cthulhu' or 'the dunwich horror' or 'the nameless city' are good entry points imo.
okay that seems like a lot, i have more if you need lol. hope this helps in some way!
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brokenmusicboxwolfe · 8 months
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I am deeply saddened to see that actor David McCallum has died. While 90 hardly a short life, when someone has mattered to you, even in the distant way of an actor playing make believe for a living, you always wish the life were longer.
I expect I am about to ramble, and not very coherently (sleep deprivation), so all of it will go under the cut.
Actually, he was about the first actor I ever remember recognizing. When I was 3 I adored an obscure tv series called The Invisible Man, where he played the title character. It bares little resemblance to the original story, instead following the adventure show of the 1970s-1980s formula. I think the fact he played a scientist, married to a scientist, and that the couple happily worked together had a lot to do with it. Reminding me of my parents was a natural thing to appeal to a preschooler.
To be honest, I only remembered fragments of the show, but I remembered him vividly. Even as a little kid if I saw him anywhere my first thought was “lt’s the invisible man!!” and a wave of affection would wash over me.
Affection is something you wouldn’t find with my favorite of his tv shows. Steel, in my beloved Sapphire and Steel, is hardly a warm character. How can I describe the show…Well, the title characters aren’t human, but beings that are sent out to deal with problems in time, or maybe you can say caused by time. Nursery rhymes, photographs, and gas stations take on a menacing quality. If these two show up you better be afraid because while they will go to extreme lengths to stop the threat, those lengths might involve sacrificing you.
Steel the cool, sharp edged, and anything but the lovable nice guy I’d adored as a tot….and I adored him here too.
I was late seeing Sapphire and Steel, but I was even later seeing The Outer Limits (original version) where he starred in two of my favorite episodes.
In one, The Sixth Finger, he played a coal miner experimented on by a scientist until he evolved far beyond a connection to his humanity. I have an action figure of that one!
The other, Forms of Things Unknown, has an obvious inspiration in a certain famous French thriller, but then in comes McCallum, a man experimenting with time. While in the other episode he played a man shedding his humanity with every mutation, here he actually is unearthly from the start, a peculiar characterization that reminds me of the madness of characters that have seen to far into the void, but also of a child lost to forces far beyond them….
TBH, I went through a period where this episode was comfort viewing. I would day dream up back story details for McCallum’s character, and even ways to connect it to Sapphire and Steel.
What? just because I was going full geeky fangirl on a single episode of a tv show made well before I was born isn’t THAT weird on here!
And here is another obscure one I’m fond of, a movie called The Ravine. It’s a movie set during WWII where he’s a German soldier sent to capture a woman that’s been acting as a sniper picking of his side like crazy. The concept, that they end up trapped together and do the enemies to lovers thing, seemed like the usual contrived thing. Still, out of mild curiosity I watched a horrible print on Youtube and I was surprised how effective it was. I was actually sold on the tragic relationship, and I’d gone into it expecting to be rolling me eyes. In fact , since it isn’t (or at least wasn’t) available on DVD in the US I got one from Europe. Good thing the acting and setting are more important than dialog, cause I don’t speak Italian!
Frankenstein: The True Story has about as much relationship to the original novel as Bram Stoker’s Dracula has to the book, but it’s actually a rather fascinating take on subject. Tumblr would approve of the gay subtext (more like text, cause how could even folks in the ‘70s miss it) McCallum’s part is supporting, but crucial being both Frankenstein’s mentor and brain donor. I’ll be honest with you, my weakness for mad scientists is showing because I swooned over even has he enthusiastically collects raw materials (ahem) for their work.
Is it weird that this is the roll he played that had me properly, classic fan girl swooning?
There are couple of adaptations that are notable for me. There is that adaptation of Kidnapped he was in. I got it on DVD for my father because the sequel to Kidnapped was a childhood favorite of his, and this was the rare version to use that book (TBH, Pop had a fanboy crush on the girl in that book, from the way he talk! LOL) Unfortunately Pop died before seeing it, so it colors my thoughts on it. And there was an adaptation of Our Mutual Friend, one of my favorite Dickens novels, but I watched it in a “see all the adaptations” kick so it’s a blur of compare and contrast.
I will end this with the most peculiar way a part he played connected with me.
It started unexpectedly, with me watching The Man from UNCLE on a DVD set my father had gotten for Christmas. My parents had liked the show, but like a lot of shows from before I was born I’d heard a lot about it before I’d seen it.
To be honest I wasn’t particularly impressed. Oh, it was fine, and I did like the warm dynamic of the main two characters. **It’s just sort plain potato chip tv, tasty but forgettable. Plus it was sooo of it’s time that the sexism irritated me no end. I have watched, and loved, a lot of 1960s tv, so maybe I just expected more. I enjoyed it, but if you asked me to rank my faves of the “ Sixties lets do the Spy Thing” tv shows I would pick Wild, Wild, West or The Avengers or Danger Man or Get Smart*** even before it.
So it was fine, I enjoyed it while we watched, and then didn’t really think about it anymore.
And then my father got sick.
My father’s illness, and eventual death, hit me hard. Very hard. I was alone dealing with it. I had no friends, and wasn’t even on Tumblr yet. I couldn’t weigh my parents down with my emotions when they had so much of their own. And with my father’s chemo and such I was often actually alone. Obviously not as much as now, but so many days completely alone was new to me then.
So there I was, on the verge of being an emotional but holding it together, desperately aching for someone, anyone, I could turn to….
And then I started dreaming.
Of course I always had dreamed, but this was different. This was nightly dreaming. Serial dreaming. Stories that continued on for days or weeks. And fictional characters started creeping in. Up until then the characters in dreams had always been my OCs, but now suddenly tv shows, books, movies, comics…they were all fodder for the stories helping me escape.
The part may be one of his most famous roles, but it still came as a huge surprise when I found myself dreaming about Illya.
Actually, the first dream was a general Man from UNCLE dream. It was fun, even if it seemed weird to be dreaming about the show. But then the next one had Illya only.
And so it started, an epic series of dreams, chapter after chapter, night after night. Adventures with Illya.
Well, and aliens and time travel and so on. It was, after all, my subconscious spinning the story, not screenwriters. Gotta get time travel and/or alternate universes in there somewhere if it comes out of mushed up brain.
After a while the dreams had bigger gaps between them, but the dreams with Illya still came. In fact over months they dominated my dreaming. Illya was there all the time.
It got so I spent time when I was awake, thinking about the dreams and the character. What would Illya think of this? What would Illya listen to? What would Illya say? What if Illya were in that situation? What if…
Now, I admit, the Illya I was imagining is only inspired by the one David McCallum played. It looked like him. It sounded like him. I even found myself replaying select episodes to remind myself of his “voice” so my brain could make him seem more authentic. But the truth was he was my interpretation of Illya, my head-cannon, my quirks, my obsessions..
Actually I guess it was my need. I needed someone. My dreams even created characters to be my avatars for interacting with him. I those dreams I could talk to him, laugh with him, cry in front of him, save him or be saved by him, and be his friend.
And in a weird way, that is what my brain was doing. It was giving me an imaginary friend while I slept. Someone smart and kind and brave, to save the world…just like the imaginary friend I’d had when I was little.****
I’d given myself an imaginary friend that looked and sounded like Illya!
Well, in dreams. I wasn’t so far gone I talked to him when I was awake!
But it was comforting. I found myself thinking about those dreams, almost cuddling up to them in those painful dark days. I confess I worried that if I ever were in a delirium or under anesthetic or something might call out to him and have some very embarressing questions asked.
Eventually the dreams stopped. Time moves on. Maybe I didn’t need them anymore, or maybe my subconscious got bored.
TBH I kinda wish I still had dreams about him, or some other characters. Any dreams with a repeated cast or continuing story would be beyond welcome. I could REALLY use their company now.
And now, writing this, I realize just why I actually gasped when I saw David McCallum had died. Yes, as an actor he had played many parts I enjoyed, but other actors have done that without the shock of their death knocking the breath from me. But the fact is no other actor has had their performance gift me with something that felt like a friend when I needed one most.
So that’s why I am sad. It isn’t just a list of parts he played that I loved or that he had been a familiar face as long as I can remember. He got stored in a special part of my mind, the strange area of the imagination where strangers and friends get blurred and fiction protect a fracturing heart.
I am eternally grateful he lived. Even if I didn’t have a list of credits I enjoyed ******, as long as I had those dreams he helped inspire when I needed them most I’d mourn his passing.
Condolences to all that loved him, be they friends, family, or fans.
**Though I would end up in fandom exile for seeing them as like brothers or little boy best friends instead of shipping them. Good on you if you do. I think it’s beautiful every character everywhere gets shipped with someone, but dang, what is with the hate for the non-shipping fans?)
*** The Prisoner, possibly my fave tv show ever, isn’t really in this category to my mind, but a lots of folks would disagree.
****My childhood imaginary friend was the ghost of a little boy murdered by his uncle during the American Revolution. Still, the smart, kind, brave, save the world stuff was there too.
*****I didn’t mention something he did that I enjoyed. For instance, Mother Love, a wonderful bit of tv that criminally isn’t on DVD, because it’s Diana Riggs’ showcase. But then I’ve also never seen any of the six billion years of NCIS (I think those are the letters). Who knows how many other of his work I never saw.
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antispopausandstuff · 2 years
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I saw your post about same sex and Sapphic relationships in media and how not every pair of gay/bi/etc people have to be together and homie, I get that there are a lot of other ways to show love in lgbt+ shows but dude. Canon romantic relationships of all kinds is one of the big goals for our community. The "unrequited love" and such was what we Always used to see in shows and media and books. Always hinted at just enough to make audiences hopeful but never any follow through. We are LUCKY to have LGBT+ relationships and romances on screen nowadays and a lot of younger people don't remember the days when no one in the community even thought it was possible to see a pair of women or a pair of men kiss on TV or in a movie in a way that wasn't just a joke or going to be played off. Yes, we need more lgbt+ friendships on air but not at the sacrifice of the romantic relationships our community and our elders have fought to be shown and accepted as normal for decades now. If you wanna see pining and unrequited love and "will they, won't they", you can easily find it in the past. Typically it became queerbaiting of some kind if the authors refused to acknowledge the obvious subtext or in some cases, people would retcon it in after the dust has settled and people can't refuse to watch something if they have to see gay people being gay.
But comparing things to the "control group", it's exceptionally rare that showrunners don't try to shoehorn in some kind of tension between straight people. If showrunners don't, fans are always THRILLED to ship them. Until shows get better writers that know how to write friendships of any kind, I'm sticking firmly in the camp of happier to see the gays kissing rather than hearing showrunners whine about how they gave us representation so why aren't we happy to see said rep not acting on their sexuality in any way.
hello there!
i'm sorry for offending you, and i might've explained my thoughts poorly.
i do not believe we have to sacrifice one or the other, or that there's anything wrong with queers kissing and the "obvious" ( still not sure if that's the right word ) being canon.
what i do believe though is that, especially since comics and other online forms of media ( youtube, for ex ) are becoming more and more diverse and becoming more popular in general, there are a lot of opportunities for different topics of queer romance.
i'm very aware of how difficult it can be for shows/movies specifically, so i think i should've mentioned that i wasn't only talking about TV media, but i'm not sure how relevant that would be in hindsight.
to talk more about the unrequited love conversation, i definitely should've specified more on that! i understand how that can come off as incredibly queerbaiting, and often is, if it was one "potential" queer relationship.
however, i didn't mean to give off that i meant it in that context. i am a writer who makes all of my characters POC + queer, and only not do that in rare circumstances, so it was natural of me to think of what i said in that specific context, instead of how it could come off to others. i apologize for that!
i meant unrequited love, and potential "will they, won't they"s in the context of many already existing queers and queer relationships, rather than the sole relationship with clear queer subtext being used as a bait to lure in the gays.
i know this is less possible to do with TV media than it could be with social media and comics/manga, but i don't feel like that should stop others from trying to play around with these concepts. as time goes on, hopefully society will too, and queer media on TV, books, anything it can be in, can be even MORE diverse!
i'm very sorry for coming off as insensitive and like i want the old things back, this was my own doing by being unclear about my personal experiences of what i was saying. i kinda forgot that not everyone knows what i'm talking about ^^;
thank you for telling me this, though! it'll help me keep in mind of my explanations in the future, and i hope this cleared up your worries or concerns!
TLDR; my discussion was in context of multiple queer people/queer relationships in media, but my wording ended up being misleading and most likely came off as irritated or bitter. and, there is NO problem with having the crystal-clear gays kiss! if they're not unhealthy, let them kiss all they want!
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WHAT YOU FAVORITE SHERLOCK HOLMES SAYS ABOUT YOU.
(don't take it personally this is a joke)
acd canon:
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You think you're better than everyone and spend your free time screaming about how childish and cute Sherlock Holmes actually is. Also you're always quoting the books and made a point to ALWAYS correct every single “Elementary, my dear Watson” because HE NEVER SAID THAT!!! IT'S NOT IN THE BOOKS!!!
Granada holmes:
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you absolutely love Jeremy Brett and also you're very queer. You LIVE for Holmes' soft side and all his little half almost smiles make your heart go 💕💞💕💕💞💓💕💞.
Tplosh:
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you're gay. Also you're super sour that the original plot had to be discarded and you use this example every time you tell someone that “Sherlock Holmes is actually gay!”.
BBC Sherlock:
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it was probably what got you into the fandom, you didn't expect Johnlock to be as prominent as it actually is and you LOVE reading/writing meta and analyzing subtext.
Ritchieverse:
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you're... probably... straight... No alright, you don't actually like detective stories, you prefer action movies. Also if this is your favorite adaptation you have most certainly NEVER read the books.
Sherlock Gnomes:
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How does it feel to be actually have great taste? How does it feel?
Elementary Sherlock Holmes:
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watch ANY other adaptation and he'll stop being your favorite.
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verobatto · 4 years
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Unrequited Destiel...
The Legend of The Sun and The Moon
I just wanted to explain in a few words to those that are asking why Dean didn't reply to Cas or why is Jensen talking about angelical way to feel things.
I know they're a lot of post saying WE TOLD YOU THIS AND THAT, and is true. Because if you read my Destiel Chronicles from the beginning, you will see I ALWAYS CALLED THE UNREQUITED LOVE FROM CAS AND DEAN'S POV.
Some of you disbelieves this idea, but is the only way to intepretate why Destiel is the slowest slow burn ever.
No more intro, let's suffer together...
Season 4 and 5 JUST A FLIRTING GAME
Once Dean was pulled out from Hell, Castiel wanted to talk with him. He didn't wait a second. Things blew and it was messy, and even Bobby was scared that that thing would hurt his idjit. But it was just Cas, trying to speak with Dean, desperately trying to reach him in his true form. Why? Because he wanted to talk with him. He had to explain Dean's mission but also, he felt fascinated. And even more after their first meeting face to face when he was finally able to find a vessel.
And Dean just it took him just a little of his time to feel the same fascination. The almighty angel, that could see right through his soul.
But also the angel that said things like...
And we have the handprint too, such an intimate sign between these two.
Castiel showing him, honestly showing him with words and actions, his special interest on him:
"My superiors begun to question my sympathies. I was getting too close to the humans in my charge. You."
How would Dean take this here? The poor guy just decided to check out the angel, and speechless as he was at that moment, couldn't reply to it. "Is he flirting with me? Does he know how gay this sounds?"
Then Cas rebel against Heaven for Dean. Dean pushed him, the whole he pushed Cas to help him. If you rewatch season 4 Dean is constantly asking Cas to help him. Because he already know Cas was different. Because he felt Cas was his friend, his ally, and something else it was growing up in his chest.
While Cas pushed him against the wall, cut his forearm and drew the sigil, Dean's face is full of awe. He can't believe this soldier powerful angel is doing this for him.
And then... "We're making it up as we go."
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The beginning of season 5 is a very busy Cas searching for God, but also, the flirtation begins. Dean is like a cute boy flirting with his crush. The second meaning jokes, trying to figure out if Cas catch it is hilarious. But he will understand 'Cas doesn't understand that reference.'
From Dean's POV in these two season, we coul under he thinks angels are junk less.
Season 6: The profound Bond and the Longing
The romantic feeling from both sides began to flow even more when Castiel goes into the black side, and the first Destiel break up appears infron of our eyes in the middle of a very romantic scenes.
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The last gif is out of discussion, bot men looking at each other with sad eyes, longing and as if their conversation isn't over. Dean being disappointed at Cas and Cas trying to make him see his point. Everything he does, he does it for Dean.
And now we know why it is.
Season 7: Mourning Dean and the Jealousy
Even with Showrunner Sera Gamble trying to focus Dean's morning into a Wincest subtext, we had put king Ben Edlund came to the rescue in episode 7x09.
Putting things in order, we were faced with Dean's source of depression: Castiel's death.
So, after that, when Cas really comes back, the reunion is another romantic movie. The MEMORY LOST trope.
And then... Castiel's pseudo wife...
The trope is getting better with the spicy Jealousy in Dean's eyes.
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So he can't completely enjoy Cas is back because:
1) He doesn't remember him: so, how can be mad or anything else if Cas doesn't remember any details of their break up?
2)The guy has a wife! Okay, so, he has a wife, he easily got a wife from... Nowhere?
And then Meg comes and he is Jealous all over again!
Dean is a really mess of feelings, but in the end, when Cas recalls everything, and when I say everything, i mean Dean, because the majority of his memories was him, Dean just pulls out from his car Castiel's bloody trenchcoat and gives it him back!
So, if there was any doubts about why was Dean mourning and depressed for, we have the confirmation!
Then, let's turn the page, because now is Cas the mess... Depressed and suffering, because he almost destroy heaven, but, do you know what cares the most to Cas and when he cheers up? Yes...
When Dean says... "I RATHER JAVE YOU, CURSED OR NOT" Castiel immediately changed his face, he smiles, and kept staring at Dean with heart eyes. He was happy because Dean was forgiving him. Because since he recovered his memories, the biggest cause of it was Dean's rejection. Dean not being able to forgive him. That was the main cause of his sadness. That's why he avoided reality, he didn't have a cause, because his cause was Dean and Dean was mad at him. But now? Cas is happy again. That's why he decides to come back to battle. "I'll go with you."
Season 8 Purgatory of love and Pining!Dean
Okay, is in this season, Carver era, when Dean's POV has a turning point about Castiel and his true feelings for him and is in this season, when Dean starts pining strongly for the angel, and feeling his love is unrequited.
The cause of it, is Purgatory. The Purity about Purgatory resided in the capacity of that place to resides in abolish every human necessity to let the mind to focused in what really matters. In this case for Dean was SURVIVE AND CAS.
So we can say that what remained pure in Dean's heart was TO FIND CASTIEL.
That's why he prayed to him every night, and that's why in the moment Cas CONFESS he ran away to protect him, something in Dean changes forever.
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If you pay attention to Dean's face reaction here, is the expression of the man that realizes in that precisely moment his feelings for Castiel. Even Cas stares to a side, because there was Benny watching them, and the thing he was about to say it was too intimate. I did it to protect you.
Dean, the Big Protector, is being protected by Castiel. So, in Purgatory, Dean Winchester find out his not platonic love for his best friend.
Then we had the entire season with pining!Dean and deception.
Dean's mind invented one excuse for Castiel running away from him because thinking his best friend abbandoned him, was just too painful. He does this again when Cas pushed him inside the gate and he stays in Purgatory. Dean just rewrote in his mind the whole sequence. Imagining that Cas was defeated. But the reality was, Castiel wanted to stay. And when Cas reveals this truth to the hunter, Dean's face is a mix of deep sadness and deception. He felt really rejected by his friend. He felt his unrequited romantic love for him. But he will feel it more stronger in the crypt scene, with the brainwashing and how Castiel's love for Dean broke th connection. But he left. That was a real rejection the hunter barely could handled.
Season 9: Pinning!Castiel and Human!Cas
When Cas became Human, he has to face all the intensity of human's feelings. In this season, is time for our angel to realize his romantic love for the hunter.
Castiel will mirroring Dean's pining in season 8, and he will also feel rejected by him.
Just like Dean in season 8, Castiel will feel his romantic love is unrequited, after Dean kicked him out from the bunker, being this the parallel to the crypt scene.
But then Cain's mark comes, and everything gets worst.
Season 10: Castiel is Dean's Colette
The whole Cain's mark was the visual sign of the Destiel handprint (profound bond) attempt of break.
With Cain and Dean going through a perfect parallelism in which Crowley was placed in the friend's spot, Sam in the brother's spot and Castiel in Colette's spot. Blatant and canon exposure of what Cas means for Dean.
But now, is time for Dean, after came back for being a demon, to feel unrequited again. And this is a detail that could be not seen, but it caught my attention.
CASTIEL: At least temporarily. It’s a long story. Crowley, stolen grace. There’s a female outside in the car.
This is what Castiel says when he goes into Dean's room and after Dean praises him...
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Dean had been with Crowley when he was a demon this whole time, so Cas was heartbroken. Even this season opens with a very depressed Castiel in the bed just let himself die because Dean was gone. So, that's why Cas says this.
So you went with Crowley, i have a female in my car. See? I don't need you.
He was Jealous, and now Dean gets Jealous, but he also gets the sensation again of his love for Castiel is unrequited.
The episode that followed this one, Dean goes into a blind date with random chick he took from a date app (very ooc, but he did it because he had his heart broken and because he thought CAS had cheated on him while he was gone as a demon.)
Season 11: Dean resist a forced bond with Amara because he's bonded with Castiel
Season 11 is a blatant exposure of Dean's feelings for Castiel. There a lot of hints throughout the season telling us Dean is in love, just like in season 9 there was hints of this with Castiel. (Again, mirroring each other).
Dean resisted Amara because of his love for Castiel. But Cas is oblivious about this.
When Castiel is possesed by Lucifer, Dean switch's into desperate mode. If he was worried about his attraction for Amara, now the only thing he cares was Castiel, exposing again WHO DEAN IS IN LOVE WITH.
But when Dean wanted to rescue Castiel, and Cas didn't want to come back to him, it hurt him worst. Again, just like in season 8, Dean can't handle Cas doesn't want to come back with him (first from Purgatory and now from being possesed). Again Dean feels rejected and unrequited. That's why when Cas is back and the end of the world is close... Dean says these words...
"You're our brother, Cas. I want you to know that."
And Cas' face...
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That's a man with the heart broken, mostly because we know now he was in love with Dean CANON FACT! (sobbing louder).
Season 12 and the confusing I LOVE YOU
This season was full of married couple situations, but mostly, we had Castiel's I Love You in the barn, before "dying".
At first Dean thinks the angel was saying this as goodbye, expressing into words his feelings for the Winchesters. Because as and angel, maybe Cas was feeling he has to protect them all. But then he says this singular I Love You to Dean, and the guy doesn't know how to take it. It was a platonic ILY? A non platonic ILY? Does angels feel the same like us? Does he sees me as a brother? Dean was truly a mess, so he decides to respond to that with a Mixtape.
But, when Castiel disappears for days, he sinks again into that sensation of unrequited romantic love.
Then Cas comes back, and then he goes away again, and then he dies.
Season 13: The reunion and the meaning of Castiel coming back
Dean's mourning for Cas can't be interpreted otherwise than LOSING THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE.
And the longing for his angel plus some Nougat powers, brought him back.
The thing is, Dean didn't expr as his feeling for Castiel and when the angel asked him that he needed to believed that he came back for a reason, Dean goes...
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This sound like if he was recruiting Cas for war. And Cas' took it as that. So he came back to soldier angel mode. Because, okay, if Dean and Sam needed him to fight, he will fight.
Unrequited Love again.
Season 14 Healing Dean and the prelude of the break up
Post-possesed Dean is a follow up of self knowledge and self growing. He was healing the whole season.
But in episode 14x04 we heard Dean being Jealous or hurt because Castiel didn't go to rescue him and then because he goes into hunts with Jack. Unrequited love again.
Did Cas miss me as I missed him?
Is the first time Dean will actually name the word LOVE talking with the kid.
And then Mary dies and everything is a mess.
Dean yells YOU ARE DEAD TO ME, and how sad that sounds now that the angel had died again. Saving his life.
Dark clouda over our ship...
Season 15: And Maybe is not too late...
In season 15 we lived the angst of the Destiel break up, but then their reunion in Purgatory was beautiful.
Again, facing the fact that he could lost Cas one more time, Dean went down on his knees and prayed to him, and because he was in Purgatory, his heart and mind were released from any distraction, and he was plenty focused in the love he feels for his angel.
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He cried, and begged for him to come back.
And he found him, following his heart, the profound bond he has with Castiel.
But, when he was about to say something that he hadn't said in the prayer, Castiel cut him off. So... Again the hunter had to swallow his words and the unrequited love punch him again.
Then... Castiel's romantic love confession took Dean by surprise, because, now that you read all the clues i gave you and i convinced you that Dean and Cas thought their love were unrequited, you will understand Dean's reaction.
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Dean didn't can't believe Cas had loved him the way he does this whole time and now, he will lose him again. Is too much pain he can't handle.
For a lot of reasons we had analyzed so many times (Dean's arc has to have a closure expressing his ILY to the angel, the Empty plot is not ended, Etc) Is logical to think Cas will come back in the last episode, and this slow burn story will end with them being together, finally.
To Conclude:
The legend of the Sun and the Moon talks about two lovers that can't be reunited but they love each other deeply.
Is accurate with Destiel, because these two men had always being pining for each other but never be able to be together as they wish.
Castiel always thinking Dean doesn't reciprocate his romantic feeling for him and Dean thinking because Cas is an angel, he doesn't love him back romantically.
The Sacred Oath always playing in Castiel's POV as an impediment too and Dean's love clocked in shame too.
The deal with the Empty had been settled as we suspected in season 14, as a romantic plot. So, it has to have a closure.
These thoughts are based on the volumes from my assay "The Destiel Chronicles", currently in it's 87th volume.
See you soon! Have faith!
Destiel Is Forever!
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coldmorte · 3 years
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I’m freaking out that you’re a Reservoir Dogs fan too!! It’s probably my favourite movie of all time and I couldn’t believe it when I saw you post it!! ❤️❤️❤️
YESSSSS!!!!!!! I sure am, and I'm so happy you're a fan as well!!! 😍😍😍
Everything about the film is flawless - the music, the acting, the story, the directing, the dialogue, the grit, the spaghetti western references, the violence, the humor - what ISN’T there to love?!
Tarantino has a lot of truly remarkable films, but this is my favorite of his. It just AMAZES me how much he did when he had so little to work with. Since he was new to Hollywood, the budget was incredibly low, and he didn’t have many resources available. So the fact that he could pull off THIS masterpiece is a testament to his creativity and skills as a director 🤯
I’d also consider Reservoir Dogs to be either 2 or 3 on my fave film ever list. The first spot is reserved for The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. The other two spots are a toss up between Reservoir Dogs and For a Few Dollars More!
(I'm putting the rest under the cut because I'm sorry in advance for the rant, and there are major spoilers...)
Also, I saw your tags on my reblog! As I said, it IS a gay tragedy, and nobody can tell me otherwise. There is a lot of evidence to make this argument btw — Mr. Orange allows Mr. White to murder cops right in front of him without any hesitation, yet moments later Orange kills a woman in a split second? Then, White literally defends Orange to the point of death, even though that involves betraying a man he’s been close with for many years??? And Orange confesses the truth about his identity to White, despite literally just having to wait one minute longer to be saved by the police?? Ummmm????
That’s not even mentioning how PHYSICAL everything is between them!! The caressing, face holding, hugging… uffda. In some foreign language versions of the film, White even offers Orange either a hand job or a BJ to help him feel better, for crying out loud! 🤦‍♀️
Tarantino himself said, “Gay subtext always makes every movie better,” and Harvey Keitel and Tim Roth have made references to something *more* going on between their characters. So, I think even they all ship it... and let's me real - it’s just so much more FUN to interpret it that way 😏
Anyhowwww, apologies for that long ass rant. I do say in my bio that I love films, but I seldom get the chance to gush about them on this blog. So, thank you for the ask, and I am excited to hear that you have a similar interest in RD!!! You are always free to talk movies with me 💜💜💜
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Since you seem to take the opportunity to dunk on it regularly, I’m curious what exactly your reasoning is for disliking Dynazenon? I get the impression it’s less in your (my, for that matter) strike zone in regards to being very gay like It’s predecessor, but I didn’t think there were major fundamental problems with it (certainly I had some minor gripes with it myself, but overall I liked it despite being very Heterosexual)
God I don't even know where to begin. Overall it was very shallow and just a huge disappointment. REALLY LONG POST so, more under the cut
cw: Dynazenon spoilers, me getting heated over things that don't matter.
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The problem isn't that it's het, it's that it's mediocre het and we spend so much time on it that it ends up ruining every other theme they were going for.
The show ends up contradicting itself a lot. Text and subtext say completely opposite things it's just frustrating.
Dynazenon introduces a lot of cool concepts, themes and characters then decides to do do absolutely fuck all with them. Because we need to spend all the screentime focusing on Yomogi, who is a nothing character because we need a blank character so that boys can self insert into him.
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I think the show would be exponentially better if they wrote around Yomogi not existing.
Chise is far more interesting as a character and would've been a more compelling protagonist but instead she's just wasted potential. The way the show treats her is pretty shitty too. Her whole deal is that for her entire life she's felt left out by her peers. And here is no different. They try to have her pilot Dyna Soldier, and having her be Yomogi's tag team partner would've been so interesting, but instead a bedridden Yomogi has to step in because she sucks so much I guess. She's still feeling left out by her "team", because she never does anything with them other than stick around. Her character arc is resolved when she gets a robot-kaiju of her own. The team realizes her potential and... they take her robot and still leave her out. Nothing really changed but she's happy about it now, I guess?
In text, Gridman is about a group of broken people coming together to form a strong group of friends, that's one of its core themes. Yomogi even tells the main villain that's the reason they lost to team Dyna.
But in subtext, they were never really shown as friends or as a tight team. This is one of the reasons why I dislike Yomogi and Yume's relationship so much. We spends so much time forcing them together like Fire Emblem units to make them get to S rank but the final dialogue is just mediocre and we wonder why we did all that.
Yume and Yomogi don't really have friendships in the team outside of each other. Dynazenon doesn't feel like a team because Yume didn't have any time alone to bond with either Gauma or Koyomi. Yomogi never hung out with Chise or Koyomi. So we're supposed to believe that the baddies lost because they don't have any real bonds unlike our heroes, yet we see the villains be a closer group than them. (We see them go to the movies, bowling and karaoke together).
It feels kinda like this:
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Then there's also the way the show treats Yume.
She starts as a very compelling character. She's obviously got her own issues to deal with, and over the course of the show she deals with them. But the problem with her is that over the course of the show, she gradually becomes entirely dependent on Yomogi.
I imagine they were going for a romantic thing, something like "No matter if you're lost, I will always find you and be there for you". But the way it's presented just comes off as her not being able to do anything without him.
After they start hanging out, that's pretty much it for her because the narrative doesn't allow for Yume to have a life outside of Yomogi. Even Yume's friend, Mei, whom she actually had a connection with her and showed genuine emotion and even joy with, gets pushed and fading away away by Yomogi's screentime with her.
Sure, Yume gets to be sad about her dead sister but he worms his way into every part of it. He literally ends up breaking into her memories.
Yume's sister tells her she should start to rely on her team more. Yume says she's learning to do so, but the narrative shows that she can only rely on Yomogi and no one else. When she gets lost, they keep pushing the idea that only Yomogi can find her, and even though Chise finds her first, she pushes the idea that only Yomogi is the only in the team for her. Again, contradicting its themes just to push this couple.
In the final episodes, Yume and Yomogi get separated because they need to find their robots that are in opposite directions. But Yume isn't allowed to have a life outside of Yomogi, so of course she fails and has to be saved by him.
The manner in which their relationship starts also rubbed me the wrong way. It starts with Yomogi feeling insecure that Yume is talking to Sizumu, a potential threat to his goal of dating her. The way he asks to help her form then on just feels less genuine and more like he just wants to make sure that she's not talking to other men.
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Every other time that Yume talks to Sizumu, Yomogi is always there like a dog and when he finds out that she was talking to him without him being there, he immediately tries to pry. (While Sizumu, in the same situation, is shown to respect boundaries)
But then at the end Yomogi is proven right by the narrative and it wasn't wrong at all for him to be jealous and doubt the other boy getting in his way to pussytown, because he drops his calm and quiet façade and reveals his true colors, he wants to genocide everyone!
We don't even know why Yomogi likes Yume at all. He starts pursuing her because his coworker was like "hey girl and boy are always lovers maybe ask her out ;)"
Also this is me reaching but I do find it sus that the gnc looking kid that turns into a rainbow kaiju was the biggest threat to humanity.
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I know it's not the case but it often feels like Dynazenon is Trigger's apology for making Gridman look gay. They spend so little time developing Yuta and Rikka that all they could do was add a quick blushing at the idea of him liking her even though they're complete strangers. So on Dyna feels like they were like "oh shit, let's spend the entire time focusing on them this time"
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But yeah, like I said, overall it feels like it wasted so much of its themes and ideas.
Like when they introduce the Kaiju control on Yomogi, while every episode has been about defeating the monster of the week, suddenly there's the possibility that maybe humans and kaiju can coexist. That's something I'd have liked to see explored! But instead we spend our screentime with Yomogi trying to get his dick wet.
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But yeah tl;dr: Yomogi sucks, this show is shallow and saved only by having the trigger logo slapped on it and the pretty animation.
My friend @sleepy-hailey put it into better words:
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S11E16 "Goodbye, Farewell and Amen”
Synopsis: Sidney helps Hawkeye work through some trauma at an institution in order to send him back to the 4077th in time for the end of the war, meanwhile BJ gets orders to go home that are later rescinded and Klinger realizes he’s too in love with Soon-Lee to let her go looking for her parents alone
Rating:
Jokes: 5/5
Seriousness: 4/5
Plot: 4/5
Queer subtext: 5/5
Margaret's characterization: 5/5
My thoughts: there are way too many things that I want to say about this “episode” (which is really a movie), so I’ll be putting my real-time (aka unedited) reactions under a read more if anyone is interested. But suffice it to say that this is the best sendoff M*A*S*H could have even if it leaves us still wanting more. I suppose I’ll have to track down After M*A*S*H now, though I’ve heard it’s not as good
I love how you can tell everyone loves Hawkeye so much even though this phonecall is painful to listen to
A peace talks announcement this early in this episode is clearly a fakeout
Klinger is so adorable when he's in love
I forgot about Charles' musician friends!
Where did BJ get the motorcycle? Is it the one that the reporter broke? The story is unclear
Poor Sydney looks equally as tired as Hawkeye
Oh boy here we go
Wait, not there quite yet
BJ, honey, you're not going home yet
Father Mulcahy my beloved
I forgot that he damaged his hearing doing something heroic
Chickens… oh no. Now here we go
Why do they keep cutting away from Hawkeye? 
Oh yeah I forgot BJ visits Hawkeye
He can't tell him he's going home...
Wait did Hawkeye just reference the movie where gaslighting gets its name from? 
"There might be something we wanted to say to each other before we left" 😭😭😭
Oh fuck the chicken is back
This scene breaks me every time
Damn they sent Hawkeye back to work way too quickly
(And Sydney's explanation is BS)
"I've gotta leave a note for Hawkeye" 😭😭😭😭😭
Oh Charles just admit you care about BJ
Colonel Potter you wily, sentimental bastard
Is Charles actually trained in conducting or is he just a pretentious ass? 
Why are they dragging up old arguments between Charles and Margaret? 
Oh god oh fuck Hawkeye just found out BJ left him the same way Trapper did
There goes Klinger again, having one of the biggest character arcs in the entire show
Colonel Potter trying to explain to Sophie that he cant take her home is absolutely devastating
Oh shit yeah the wild fire, I forgot that's why they bug out
It's scenes like the bug out when I realize how much of the camp we never see
BJ MY BELOVED
Boys, kiss and make up already, the bitterness is killing me
Klinger and Soon-Lee really are a beautiful femme for femme couple (not my joke but it bears repeating) 
Is that Margaret in a Hawaiian shirt? My gay heart can't take it
Oh Hawkeye...the reminder that BJ has a domestic life to go back to must be part of his fear of kids 
The war is over! You know, the 3 year war that lasted 11 years
But it's not over for the doctors or the wounded
The return to the burned out camp is so sad
Sydney helping out in OR warms my heart though
"There's nothing here I'm gonna miss... except you" FELLAS
Oh fuck one of Charles' musician friends
Scratch that, all of his musician friends
"What good is a deaf priest?...Are you [god] deaf too?" Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
And there it is, the ceasefire is official. But again, the doctors' work goes on for awhile longer
Nurse Kellye my beloved
Hawkeye indirectly calling Portland a big city is the most Maine thing I've ever heard and also hilarious
KLINGER YOU BEAUTIFUL HUMAN
I love how he went from trying anything and everything to get out of Korea to staying after everyone else goes home
Why are Colonel Potter's goodbyes always the hardest to watch? 
I hate goodbyes so much and there's so many to sit through
The Hawkeye/Margaret kiss is comphet in action and they deserved a much better scene since they've been through so much together
Babes this doesn't have to be the end for you
Hawkeye that's gay
BJ that's even gayer
But damn, he did leave a note
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Upcoming BL Analysis: Baker Boys; A Look at Antique Bakery:
Why is Antique (Korean) A BL
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It’s odd for me how no one sees how romantically coded how Antique is like so much! Especially between the two ‘platonic’ bros Sunwoo and Jinhyuk, one believed to be fully straight by all and one out and proud. I think people don’t see how much the director was trying to show that this wasn’t as easy as that, instead the director tried to explore how they both loved each other romantically , like these two loved each other, and it is hinted secretly that as time goes on and Jinhyuk deals and gets healed with his trauma he’ll slowly become more accepting of Sunwoo as his soulmate/partner. But also he thinks he’s straight only because he’s terrifyingly homophobic because he thinks he was molested when he was a kid?
He misunderstands his mum’s reveal as a child does,  and starts being traumatised by his own version/imagination of the narrative of his kidnap.  Because a man did that to him he can’t accept touches from a guy romantically because he’s traumatized and doesn’t know how to get over that. Everything he says to Sunwoo from the moment they speak to each other stems from his pain, fear and trauma buried within. He doesn’t mean it, it actually frustrates him when he does it and he says/admits it later to the audience. It’s the opposite, he always cared about having Sunwoo near him, he also found himself without meaning to wanting to be protective of Sunwoo since highschool, he kept notice of him and never wanted to forget him because he never meant what he said to him, and even later he sees Sunwoo as someone meant to be by his side no matter the obstacle or frustration with different personalities and issues. He’s also shown to be  jealous romantically may I add and admits that he  links Sunwoo leaving him to his past lovers who left him, for him Sunwoo is who he couldn’t bare the thought of walking out on him. He wanted it to be Sunwoo no one else to stay by his side and help him get and capture the kidnapper he’s been haunted by for years. Sunwoo’s baking was going to be his answer, his salvation essentially, something they both would do to save many kids. He loved Sunwoo so much but couldn’t process it because of his trauma and it’s until the kidnapper storyline ends with him finding purpose and meaning after saving others like his past child self from another person, that’s when he starts to heal and he’s okay with going with Sunwoo to the gay bar, with finally touching Sunwoo. Still goanna take him time to be vulnerable because he’s used to always having a mask it’s Jinhyuk; he hates being vulnerable but with Sunwoo he understood that they are each other’s, doesn’t need any title they were set to stay with each other by each other’s side no matter what. And Sunwoo also understood that and proceeded at the end to start flirting once again with him. 
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Even when he doesn’t have to, hes the one who comforts and listens to Sunwoo real secret about the reason why he falls for abusive people, and it made both of them open up to each other deeper about their goals. self, pains, and scars. Gah there’s so much to break down about why Jinhyuk does have feelings for Sunwoo but yeah it’s odd people don’t notice how the director made sure and even admitted that he was exploring what they had and made it super obvious that they’re both broken people in their own way that needed to grow and find themselves before they could be together. They had scars, pain and self hate to get over and Jinhyuk really struggled with not understanding why his trauma made him refuse to let Sunwoo in his heart romantically he just couldn’t because he was automatically afraid of the idea when he associated it with perversion etc because of the misunderstanding that he was hurt by someone perverted (a word his mother used to describe the kidnapper)  to him. And it’s understandable and it’s automatic/ psychological and painful to watch unfold and takes a while for him to understand and reveal the truth. But he does processs it all, and shows us all the flashbacks of why they both interlinked, with him showing protectiveness but also care instead of objectifying Sunwoo (he’s the only guy who doesn’t) it’s what makes Sunwoo although scared to do so/ normally afraid of love and always insecure about himself come to tell him how he feels and why Sunwoo stays in love with him even till the end as his boyfriend literally spelled out to him that it’s Jinhyuk he’s staying for no other excuses.Sunwoo from the start felt safe with Jinhyuk which is odd concerning how Jinhyuk acts with the  mask. But again he felt seen, not objectified and affected by Jinhyuk in a way that made him actually grow and find himself.  Listen to the dialogues people.
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For Jinhyuk it showed that although he has his mask and his crass horrible attitude and trauma, Jinhyuk likes being with Sunwoo, he notices him, refuses to forget him, decides he’s the one he wants no matter what obstacles he brings to make him get his kidnapper, Jinhyuk finds himself automatically caring and wanting to keep Sunwoo by his side you could even argue though there’s the obvious jealousy with Sunwoo’s ex, that he’s also jealous in high school about others objectifying Sunwoo he doesn’t like the idea of it and he reacts and I think that’s another reason why we got that flashback at the end. The whole movie I could speak for hours of every scene and why it showcases their love even with obstacles
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It’s like the movie Night flight it’s also a love story and both Jinhyuk and the main guy there showcase the same journey of finding their answer before realizing the truth about what/who they love. The other character takes a while to process his truth and his feelings before finally being vulnerable and having an open ending where he begs his partner to stay by his side as he’s tired of pushing him away. Same as Jinhyuk, same open ending, same understanding of what they mean to each other. Same vague answer that it’s not platonic at all and suggests like Antique that he loves the other. Both traumatized and determined to push people away and hide and not be vulnerable, both phobic because of fear connecting to trauma. For Night flight his fear of being beaten up and being kicked out and losing his power which if you watch that movie is just terrifying to do. Where in both their minds being bi/gay is terrifying because of the environmental mindset they have about their past or people who hurt them in the past.
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Even the scene where he tries to say he’d sleep with Sunwoo everyone thinks that proved he was straight when noo aren’t people seeing the layers and the struggle? You can see him struggle, you see him panic because of his trauma of being touched etc you see him try to make Sunwoo stay by his side with the plea and reason of  just because. Just because he wants him there, even when its hard for his mind to process the answer he knows he wants him by his side no matter what.  Sunwoo walks away because he struggles to explain why, the reason though stays obvious from the start he asked him to be his baker even when he’s scared of girls (something Jinhyuk says is his excuse for why he wanted the bakery which is complete bull because he ends up giving up that idea because of Sunwoo’s phobia instead of just firing him and finding someone new, something the movie later proves he can do if he wanted to)  just because he wants it to be Sunwoo. Once reunited he wants it to be Sunwoo by his side no questions asked. And although his mask makes us think he doesn’t care about people, or love or commitment at the start, we see as always he’s wearing a facade,  he does, he wants love so much, he’s a caring boyfriend and devoted, he’s also protective of the people he loves but as exposed he tried to the straight thing to propose to several women he felt he had to do so to but they could see through his mask and some were turned off by his trauma affecting him in his nightmares. They couldn’t get through to him and so they left. Sunwoo was the one despite knowing his flaws, despite their past he never lef, and Jinhyuk wanted Sunwoo to stay no matter what and he understood that he was his family (christmas scene) , his hope to getting his answer and remove his trauma, his sidekick, his helper, the person who helped him start the bakery where he found his love for something again. 
Sunwoo represents so much to Jinhyuk just as Jinhyuk also even when hurtful and problematic in his mask still pushes Sunwoo to growth and also represents so much to him! Gah I love this movie so much, I love it with such a passion and each time I watch it I just love them so much. Antique is one of those ones where it’s what I want from BL a plot that’s increasingly amazing and not connected to that, then a deep and surprising love story at the core between the two and then covered with humor and mystery and more genres. It’s a roller coaster of emotions, has incredible growth and character arcs, has found family, the discovery of self, healing of trauma and pain and a hopeful happy ending. It’s just everything. Extremely thought out adaptation, edited to Perfection and outstanding acting that won awards because it deserved it. That’s it. I just absolutely loved this so much. The Korean version tried so hard to be as romantic as possible in my opinion, every subtext points to it and it takes a few layers to break down to understand how, but the whole show is all about that emphasis on layers and uncovering masks and layers of every character! Gah. Please go watch it I can’t wait and will pray Thailand does better with Baker Boys. But I don’t know how they can surpass this.
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GIANTS OF BL 2021 AKA SHOWS LINED UP FOR GMMTV THAT WE WON’T STOP SCREAMING ABOUT!
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Is there a way I can get over the addiction of BLS? Apparently not because GMMTV came and slapped me across the face for ever thinking I could. Like what even was that conference? I came in like yeah I've heard the rumours. 6 BLs! LOL, you're kidding, like nothing I'd want would even happen. But I still made a list of everything I wanted from them and held that checklist in my mind and boy was I shocked! I ended up just on the floor, brain exploded, mind shut down and can you believe I was crying? Like why on earth was I crying for GMMTV BLs? Crazy right? I am absolutely left floored, I'm going to be crying as I write this by the way just so you know, I've got my heart full ready to burst, talking about the change we've seen in BLs this year, the journey, the growth; there's still some work to do, but GMMTV said they were also part of that, they were going to change and make us stay, wanting more. They did that in a 3-hour conference. My brain is ready, my mind is prepared, my heart is available for all these shows, and I can't wait to see what 2021 unfolds. Let's begin screaming:
Ratings: From 1 to 5 (1 being least excited to watch, 5 being most,) how excited am I to delve into these shows?
THE NICE SURPRISES
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BAKERY BOYS
Genre/Themes: Thriller, Bromance, Mystery, Psychological, Drama, Friendship, BL? (The manga is), Baking
Verdict: You know I love Antique when immediately I see that Foie's hands shaking as he has to be one of the waiters in the cafe, reminds me back to another favourite bodyguard of mine doing so. I was in shock; One because Antique was one of my first Korean 'BL' movies I saw, with all my favourite actors, an unusual and intriguing plotline and I ate it up; all of it. I didn't like how censored it was and the weird open ending for the relationship in the show. But I couldn't care less, something about it made me happy. I just loved the characters I think, and I enjoyed seeing our 4 bakers become friends and find a weird found family with each other. Add in a mystery to why Joon’s character wanted to kill himself and hated cakes? And I was sold. Now GMMTV is making a remake for it, and SINGTO is playing my favourite gay baker. Like I am so happy with this. Do I expect this to blow my mind? No. Do I expect more BL? A little? I'm not sure like GMMTV could make Antique a BL if they want to, Korea hinted to it, Japan ignored it in anime and others, but Thailand could change that. I'm not holding hopes for it, but I love this cast just as much as I love the Korean Cast like Lee Thanawat is perfect for this role, Singto is greater (I just love him so much) and we even have Pleum and Foei?? Are you kidding me? Greatness. It's going to be fun to see what they do with the mystery—something I greatly liked in the movie. Let's hope it's more fleshed out in the tv show. So excited!
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Ratings: 3.5/5 I mean it's not really a BL so it'll feel queer baity for me and I may end up being annoyed it, but I really do have fond memories of the Korean movie, so I want to be excited, and the cast is everything so we'll see.
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FISH UPON THE SKY
Genre: Unrequited Love, Comedy, Romance, Rivalry, Haters to Lovers, 
Verdict: 
DID SOMEONE SAY JITTIRAIN: THEORY OF LOVE? 2GETHER??? Sorry for screaming but like what else am I meant to do. Theory of love is my ultimate BL show, one of it anyway, one of the reasons will be discussed even more later with another show, but this is not about them. Also, 2gether is like one of the biggest BLs ever right now. Jittirain is genius, she has this ability to make you feel for her characters, root for their love stories whilst throwing plot twists everywhere. I also like that she always has a focus; theory of love, we had film theory, 2gether we had music, and now we have Fish Upon the Sky, and we have?
 Medicine? Love rivalry? Honestly, I don't know, the title even makes me feel even weird; what the hell does Fish upon a sky mean? But who cares it's a Jittirain classic, comedy, pain, longiiiing, and unrequited love, and scheming to get unrequited loves requited, more side couples and secretive characters. This time we have PHUWIN (had to emphasise that because he's impressive people stop sleeping on him!), one of my favourite youngins, showing up and becoming our main Pi and we have Pond a newbie, who has charisma for days, and he plays Mork, and they are love rivals. Wait what? A love story between two people who fall for each other after chasing after one guy? I'm ready for this, the haters to lovers, the pain of unrequited longing, but hold on it seems like a plot twist! Seems like we have another oblivious protagonist on our hand aside from Tine in 2gether, Pi can't even see that Mork isn't chasing after the same person as him, but for he's chasing after him! Sarawat scheming activated! I'm expecting giggles, chemistry and a great story. And it's going to be great because it's Jittirain. 
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Ratings: 4.5/5 It's not anything new but do I need to repeat my self? Theory of love pining and longing and emotions mixed with 2gether's secrecy, scheming and obliviousness? It's going to be great. The cast is also excellent, I have total faith in this show, better be a good director though (oh no nightmares from the last half of 2gether has returned). 
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FINDING ENCHANTE
Genre: Romance, Comedy, Angst, Drama, Friends to Lovers, Haters to Lovers, Harem, Mystery, 
Verdicts: 
Enchante that means nice to meet you aww. Wow, now I know French. Yay now where do I sign up to be like Theo and have 5 men chasing after me? Actually, that sounds like a nightmare, and I don't have time for that. He does apparently. Guess what guys! I knew I had a feeling in my gut when I watched this drama, I felt the memories, the intuition, the clues, hitting my brain, and I realised why. This show is also written by My gear and your gown's writer. YES! You mean more mystery and subtext filled storytelling, a show where I can analyse the character dynamics, and find clues to piecing the story together??? Perfection. As much as My gear and your gown wasn't everything to me, it was everything to me when I analysed it, I have fun with this writer's works when directed properly her works have great potential to be one of the best. I love GMMTV giving new actors the time to shine, and choosing stories that make my mind start working again. Thank you. 
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With this show we're having a love Simon flashbacks with our Simon being sent secret messages through a book by Enchante, he's sweet, caring and totally all about making our lead comfortable. Who could he be?
 The best friend who's totally pining from afar and playing off his feelings like its nothing?  My gut is already saying that Tine definitely wants it to be him (so again requited but they don't know trope? you've got me!)
Is it the playboy guitar extraordinaire played by GAWIN you heard me right GAWIN my Mork in Dark Blue Kiss!! Like what? Where've you been boy? He looks so great in this, by the way, he's a tease, likes to play our lead's feelings, and has chemistry because they're haters to lovers.  
Or is it FLUKE PUSIT?? What even is this cast how is it both my favourite actors are here? Anyways Fluke is an artist, he wants our lead to let him in so he can draw him, our lead is his muse apparently, and again chemistry that makes your head hurt because like who is this damn Enchante?? Who will Theo choose? 
Anyways we then have two people who I don't know that well sorry, Boom is the football captain that likes our lead and is always protecting him, and the other is a genius/nerd? Who helps Theo with his studies? Like wow, it must be great to be Theo, guys from different lifestyles and aesthetics have found him, they want him, they need him and one of them he wants and needs. I wonder who it is. 
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Ps people already thinking it's the best friend, not me, I think bestie is obviously endgame Tine is definitely also secretly wanting him to be with that pining and longing (I'm sure it's why he wants to find enchante desperately). I can't wait to see why these two refuse to let each other know how it feels. All I beg for is, please don't let New direct this. Guess what it's produced by X (Theory of Love! Hold on while I cry again) and Film! (Also theory of love!) Oh, this is going to be brilliant!
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Ratings: 4.5/5 This drama is probably going to be the most underrated because people have other things to care about I don't blame you, but I think for me, this would be a same favourite way I loved MGYG and I'm ready for new faces, Gawin and Fluke and a requited but they don't know it angsty love story plus I know the directing is going to be amazing!. Ps, I actually hate harems, but the excitement is in figuring out who on earth is Enchante and why this is happening! 
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THE BIG BOYS
GMMTV decided to not let me rest next year. How is it that I already felt happy by seeing Phuwin, Gawin, Fluke etc... I was content you know, I was like great we have a great line up I'm excited now I don't think there's anything else I secretly want that will happen. I'm being a clown, BUT NO. EVERYTHING I ASKED FOR: EVERYONE I WANTED TO SEE, EVERY TROPE I WANTED, THE DIRECTOR, THE PLOTS, EVERYTHING WAS MANIFESTED BY THESE THREE TRAILERS. That's why I ended up crying.  Because even till this day I can't believe this is real. I don't know when I'll finally think they will be real in 2021. Crying again!
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NOT ME 
Genre: Gang, Mafia, Crime, Romance, Drama, Stolen Identity, Twins, Angst
Not me? Not you? Not us? See how my mind scrambles when it comes to this show. Because I was determined to not be a clown and believe in this even when I saw OFF GUN hold onto each other on the motorbike I was like HA, nope they're just guest stars, when I saw them as gang members I was like HA; interesting probably not BL. When I saw two Guns, I was like HA, nice Gifted character flashback but still not BL. I won't fall for it,  this is a BAIT! You get me? BAIT!! Don't fall for it and then GMMTV was like shut up here's a kiss. And then I broke down and cried. Because it was a journey. 
Remember when I said Theory of Love was my favourite? It's because of these two; OffGun is everything, my favourite BL couple on screen, my favourite fanservice couple, everything. I thought that the end of theory of love meant I won't be seeing them for a while, they'd be in other series separate, they'd not want to be typecasted. Gun would go for serious roles, Off will choose more het romantic comedies, don't blame them. Still, I didn't think I'd see them again, and I wasn't sure I wanted to see them in another university setting. I set my mind on only seeing them in fan meetings and side projects, I'd made up my mind to miss them. And then NOT ME happened, and now I'm crying just at the thought;
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This isn't a cringy, comedic, cheesy BL. 
This isn't set in University.
This isn't'  unrequited pining from Gun to Off.
Gun is Dark! I repeat Gun went Dark he became a gang leader determined to break the law, called Black and Off; OFF went serious and he's Gun's right-hand man called Sean, and I'm just like wait is this real?? We're getting dark, gritty OFF GUN??? Are you serious?? See?? still can't believe it, and it's BL??? What is this? Christmas?? Like how did we get this, who came up with this idea THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
I thought nothing could beat theory of love for me and now OffGun came back and said HA you thought. I have a lot of feels about this, I will never stop screaming, I've rewatched that youtube trailer now for about more than 20 times, I'm not even kidding you, every day it's on repeat, I'm just ready, ready to write, to scream, to talk about this in so much detail. Let's get a plot that's deep, thrilling and mysterious, let's get a romance that is interesting, angsty but also sweet, let's get acting that is full of range, that will break my heart but fix it together again, let's get chemistry that would make me forget everything else. I'm ready for this. I've never been more ready!
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Ratings: 5/5 What were you expecting? I can't even rate this anything else, nothing about this is worrying; even the director I trust she's also worked with Gun before in another movie of his, she respects LGBTQ, and she wants to make a great BL. I just can't believe this is real. 2021 come faster, I beg you. 
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BAD BUDDY 
Genre: Forbidden romance, Haters to Lovers, Romance, Comedy, Opposites attract, Angst, Friends to Lovers, 
Verdict: 
You thought my screaming would be over. But no. GMMTV wasn't done with me yet. It's like it knew I was mourning from my lack of Ohm Pawat after rewatching He's coming to me (review here) and it knew I had just finished watching Gifted Graduation and felt slighted to see my opportunity at seeing Nanon as a BL character being taken from me with that finale. GMMTV knew I was empty without them and decided to mock me, and put me back together by making OHM NANON in a series together,. 
Again the same process as Not me; I started laughing when I saw the trailer like a mad person. I was like this is clearly a queer bait bromance, HA, not falling for it GMMTV almost got me this time, but then there were the stares, the Romeo and Juliet energy, the sneaking into each other's rooms, the becoming secret friends despite being haters to lovers, the skinship, the intimacy, and then the jealousy, the pining, the longing, the are we just friends scene??? WAIT, WHAT IS THIS?? Why is AOF directing this (same director of ALL my favourite BLS), what is this GMMTV? 
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Nanon wouldn't be in a BL we know this, we've been clowns, but we accepted this with defeat, why is he now saying he's doing one because of the cast? THIS IS A BL? NOT BAIT? NOT A TRICK? BY AOF? WHATTTTTTT???? see my mind exploded. 
Since then it hasn't still comprehended this. This is insane, do you know how good, how genius, how amazing Nanon and Ohm Pawat is?? Do you see the power this holds? The fact it's directed by Aof who's like one of the best directors ever in GMMTV??? Do you even know what this means? For this GENRE??? Sorry, I have to scream. I still can't believe this! This is something someone would say, and we'd laugh it of as a joke like yeah right, in your dreams, but it's real, and it looks absolutely amazing, is it a university setting YES, so what? This is everything, with haters to lovers but not really, to Romeo and Juliet pining and longing, to the chemistry that takes your breath away. To just Ohm and Nanon in a screen together being in love. Yep, you guessed it my mind is never goanna be whole again after this breakdown. Guess what I'm okay with it. 
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Ratings: 5/5 OhmNanon, Aof that's it. That's the post.
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A TALE OF A THOUSAND STARS
 Genre/Themes: Military, Romance, Comedy, Drama, Heart Transplant, Unrequited Love, Fish out of water, 
Verdict:
 And we come to this big one here. You see it? It screams 2021 show of the year to me, it screams incredible plot and romance to me, it screams unique and exciting BL to me. Guess what? It's also by Aof. Ha. It took me a year to accept this is happening because when the trailer came out, I knew that with this cursed genre that this was too good that there'd probably be some kind of issue with it. But did it matter? No! Because this was real. Earth and Mix were in a BL together, and it looks so amazing, so great, and it's coming in less than 3 months. I'm going to cry. And it means everything; because there's a hint of character dynamics, angst and also haters to lovers. I see the chemistry, the production, the plot, the actors, and I just feel so ready for this show that I have no other words to say except I love it, I love it, I love it!. 
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Ratings: 5/5 It's taken years, but I'm ready for this, I just want the trailer now, I want the show now, I want 2021 to start now. This is definitely a giant for sure, it's everything, and I can't wait for it. 
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After screaming at everything; 2021 starting with ATOTS is already a sign, we're in for a great year with so many incredible changes in this genre. GMMTV isn't messing around, with subs in their event to show international fans are no longer forgotten and are heard and respected, with actors that have made their way into my heart and refuse to leave, and I'm just so happy. It may seem so extreme to be this excited for a BL series to be good, but I love this genre, I love seeing what it represents to so many people, I love the interesting storylines, the discussions you can have for days because of it, the tears, angst, and happiness you feel. But most of all I love how BL has brought out writing from me, I'm happy when I analyse this genre, I'm delighted discussing real-life links and conversations derived from it, I'm so glad learning and humbling my self and opening my mind to new things. BL has been a source of excitement, shock and happiness this year. I can't for next year to be even more splendid, and with this line-up, it's going to be even more than that. It's going to break the world. Can't wait. 
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Music Ask (Fiendish) Thing
Thank you to monkberries for tagging me! 😊
Who was your first favourite artist? The Beatles :-)
Who are your current favourite artists? The Beatles, Leonard Cohen, Elton John, The Doors, George Michael, Cass Elliot, Niall Horan
Are you into musicals? Which ones?/Why not? I’ve been meaning to dive into that world!! I really have only developed a deep love and appreciation for Falsettos, but beyond that I’m a little clueless about musicals. It’s on the bucket list!
Are there songs you consider so special you only listen to them very rarely? Here Today by Paul McCartney
What's your preferred way of listening to music? (time of day, medium, situation) Either playing in the car on a long drive or with earbuds on at night before I go to sleep.
What would you say is the most niche music you listen to? Eek! I’m definitely very basic. Maybe the little pocket of classical music and jazz I like, but otherwise I’m a normie.
What's your favourite music related movie/TV show that's not a musical? Whiplash and Footloose
Albums or playlists? Albums, usually, but every now and then I go through a playlist phase.
Favourite albums? Revolver - The Beatles, Walls and Bridges - John Lennon, RAM - Paul and Linda McCartney, Older - George Michael, Ingénue - K.D Lang, Flicker - Niall Horan, 
Is there an artist you're trying to get into? No, I don’t ever try anything, it just happens.
Whose music do you find overhyped? Henry Steeles
What's an underrated song? Freeek! by George Michael!! 
What's a thing a bunch of songs do that you love every time? Gay subtext in a ballad
What song is better acoustic? I’m Stepping Out by John Lennon
What's the worst song of all time? I wouldn’t know.
Do you put individual songs on repeat? If so, for how long and how often? Oh god, yes, yes I do. Very long and very often.
Do you make your own playlists? If so, what's your most entertaining playlist title? Sometimes. ‘Codependent Bugs’ 
Headphones or earbuds? Earbuds, I hate the feeling of headphones.
Do you always sing the lead vocal or do you harmonize sometimes? If you harmonize, do you ever invent your own harmony? I'm embarassed just listening to myself talk, I’m certainly not singing!!
A music confession? David Bowie isn’t that impressive to me 😋
I tag You! Yes, You!!!
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Drop the rec list plsss
ok this is gonna make me sound insane but like
this is a book, but tipping the velvet by sarah waters, she's actually the same 1 who wrote the book the handmaiden is based on but its just like. a lesbian book written by a lesbian and not interfered with like it's just so authentically lesbian. and it has drag kings and socialism and butchfem and like really ahead of its time exploration of like how upper class queer women exploit wc lesbians. the sex scenes are so gross bc like its set in victorian times so it tries to use victorian language like.. what the fuck is a quim ill kill myself. but it has straps and like no scissoring iirc so still a better depiction of lesbian sex than 99% ! (there are I think multiple TV/film adaptions of this idk I haven't watched them bc the butches didn't look butch to me so I didn't care)
yentl ♥️♥️♥️ literally a groundbreaking moment for women in film and even if it wasn't a secret butchfem magnum opus i would still recommend it because its a beautiful film with an amazing soundtrack and it's like a loveletter to prewar eastern european jewry. what baffles me is people always remark on the like gay man + transmasc subtext of this film but no one mentions that theres literally a butchfem lesbian wedding...its basically a choose your own adventure lgbt movie like babs literally put something for everyone in there. like if you want it to be a butchfemme film then it is. if you watch it you're going to be so confused for the first half an hour but just trust me. I feel insane like im frothing just thinking about it
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i watched a film recently called drifting flowers which i really enjoyed! it's directed by zero chou who is actually a lesbian ♥️ it's again a really beautiful film and it has various lgbt characters and relationships between them like mlm/wlw solidarity or whatever. and it explores disability and gender a lot. and has like a reallyyyyy gorgeous butch main character. it's definitely really bittersweet but it's just so real and tender and there are some really good butchfemme moments that feel so real, like as much as i enjoy a fantasy fairytale it's also such a rare & special experience to see a relationship like yours on screen like.. i never see that!!
the rest from here down aren't explicitly butchfem but there's a French sitcom/drama idk called dix pour cent (it's on netflix) with like a really good lesbian romance and they lowkey have a butchfemme dynamic even though neither of them are butch. it's not ABOUT the lesbians but i literally love every single character idk it's like succession for normal people it has board meetings and everything. it's about an agency like for actors and the bit is basically every episode there is like a french actor playing themselves so if you're a fan of the isabelles (adjani huppert et al) and idk hot french lesbians in suits pls watch ♥️
i watched a swedish film recently called fucking åmal and all ill say is like. if youre a lesbian who came out during high school this film feels like looking in a mirror like it was literally EERIE to me i was like. they stole my life to make this film what the hell. but again like really sweet realistic characters and it has a sweet cathartic ending too.
and there's a bollywood film called ek ladki ko dekha to aisa laiga that i enjoyed sooo much and its really groundbreaking to have a lesbian lead couple in a bollywood film! its literally so fun and sweet and it has like really cute side characters and explorations of other social issues as well. i think the two leads are just sooo sweet and iirc they weren't allowed to show any kissing so they have gone to such efforts to show the affection and tenderness and chemistry between the couple. the screenplay is by a trans woman and its directed by a woman as well (no idea either of their sexualities but its such a good depiction of a lesbian relationship sooo)
um tldr. the golden rules are not directed by a man, had a lesbian involved w the writing/directing etc, look outside the US, and watch yentl or i will kill myself.
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Some wisdom words of the day:
“Gay subtext always makes every movie better.” – Quentin Tarantino.
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These two knew the assignment. Bless Joe Carnahan for directing this masterpiece.
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movies & shows
cracks knuckles* alright this is going to be more of a rant than an analysis because i’m basing this on both my research, but also how it felt to personally be baited by these shows. there are obviously more pieces of bad (almost every horror movie) and good ones but these are the ones i’ve watched.
please keep in mind that i am but one queer and everyone has different opinions.
Supernatural (CW) 2005
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This show is 15 years old and just ended. From season 5 till 15, there has been tension between two of the lead characters. They were constantly shipped together and not only did the entire fandom know about this ship but so did almost all of Tumblr. On top of that, the actors and show runners knew about it as well. Which is why it makes it ridiculous that it was constantly pushed aside while the romantic coding  kept happening, even after show runners dismissed it as being intentional. The Destiel (Dean x Cas) case has been going on for years, and as the show came to its end, many fans had hope. But N O P E. Instead, we got a love confession from Cas where Dean looked like he was near constipated and the Cas was killed and sent into a fiery place that was not hell but s u p e r  h e l l.
… w hy.
Sherlock (BBC) 2010
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Just like Supernatural, this show was renown on Tumblr for not only how good it was, but its hinting at a potential relationship between Sherlock Holmes and John Watson. But again, like Supernatural, the intentional tension between the two characters was denied by producers. This caused an uproar within the fandom, and even left some people believing that, after the last season aired, it had been a joke and the producers were hiding a “secret, unaired season” because they had felt so robbed by this show that had implied something and denied it.
The 100 (CW) 2014
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We got lesbians. We got background gays. We were happy. Then, all of a sudden, one of them is killed for no reason. Did it advance the plot? No. Was she fighting and died in battle? lol no. She was doing literally nothing and got shot and died. And then the producers kept bringing her back once a season in the form of a ghost or illusion because why? Because she was a fan favourite queer character. ✨bury your gays and sparingly bring them back for profit anyone?✨
Voltron: Legendary Defender (Netflix) 2016
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*deep breathe* This one is a special disaster. Not only was there romantic tension and romantically coded scenes for 7 seasons, but producers, voice actors and artists working on the show repeatedly said “don’t worry klance (Keith x Lance) shippers, you’ll be happy”
. … w h e r e??? You code one of their scenes with a sunset in the background while they talk about love and then one of them goes on a date with someone who has declined his advances for 7 seasons but now in season 8 decides to do a full 180. Not only that, but you announce at a Comic Con (a convention) that a character is gay and has a fiancé, only to kill off the fiancé and never make it explicit in the show except at the last second of the last episode where he marries a no name character. 
Personally, i’d like to say a big fuck you to the show that strung me along for 2 years and never stopped saying we’d be happy to then pull the rug out from under us and call us crazy for thinking anything from the past 8 seasons was intentional.
Scooby-Doo (2002) 
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While not being outwardly queerbaiting, this movie’s filmmaker has just revealed some shocking news, which wasn’t at all shocking to the gays who had watched this movie over the years. In July of 2020, James Gunn, the filmmaker of Scooby-Doo, revealed in a podcast that, initially, Velma was explicitly gay in his script, but then the studio watered it down until it became nothing. This isn’t an example of baiting as much as it is changing a character’s initial design to “better fit an audience”. The worst part of all this is that with Velma’s character having been written with a l i t t l e queer subtext, people had been theorizing about if since the movie came out, but were always yelled at by the internet for “imagining something that isn’t there”. But now, even with it being said that the initial point was for her to be gay, people have no objections to still refusing to accept it. Why?? So we can’t get the subtext gays OR the confirmed gays?? Make it make sense.
Brooklyn 99 (NBC) 2013
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To have the queer characters firstly introduced without mentioning their sexualities and have it brought up naturally was so goddamn nice to see, because no one does a big deal about it unless they ask for that. This show is amazing in general but the way they show their queer characters is *chefs kiss*.
She-ra and the Princesses of Power (Netflix) 2018
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This. Show. My heart SOARS. It's just a remake of an old show so absolutely nothing was ever expected, but then it was sprinkled in and ENDED WITH A BANG. And it was so beautiful and real to see the struggle of two friends who care for each other and want to be together but have different visions of the world fall in love. And they also had characters with disabilities, a non-binary character and jUST SUCH A GOOD SHOW.
Kipo and The Age of Wonderbeasts (Netflix) 2020
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This is a case where you go into it not expecting anything and are BLOWN AWAY by the bare minimum. And not because it’s bad!! It's mind blowing because this is the simple representation we need!! Not something over the top, but an every day relationship. It’s just two boys falling in love and going on dates and being nervous around each other, yet i was so stunned. Because it’s not shown enough. I should not be this excited over something that should be this normal. 10/10 though this show is so good for all kinds of representation.
Steven Universe (Cartoon Network) 2013
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This show did so much for queer representation with its general message of loving everyone and loving who you want. Especially since it was aired on Cartoon Network, a channel for kids, it was able to help normalize something so looked down upon in some circles. It made it easy to watch for s o m e people because it's a cartoon but it's so beautiful to see these ladies so in love with each other, both platonically and romantically and we see them have a family dynamic that isn’t a “nuclear family”. Rebecca Sugar (creator) really said “lemme just break all stereotypes real quick”.
Adventure Time (Cartoon Network) 2010
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It's the “knowing a fanbase shipped something so hard that the creators made it canon” for me. This relationship had been theorized by fans for years, but it had never been explicit in the show. When the finale episode came out and the two shared a kiss, it was a moment of celebration. The producer of the show said that it had not really been planned but when the episode was being made, the choice of what happened was given to one of the artists (bless your soul Hanna K. Nyströmthe). And as the show releases little bonus episodes, its latest was centered around Marceline and Bubblegum and their relationship. AND WE LOVE TO SEE OUR DOMESTIC LESBIANS BEING HAPPY AND IN LOVE.
Yuri on Ice!!! (anime) 2016
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The fact that an A N I M E gave us a love story between two men is mind boggling and it makes me so happy!! Especially because it's a Japanese show and they’re very conservative about these things just makes it more emotional. The creators said they wanted to make the anime take place in a world where gay/straight isn’t a thing, it’s just love (ladies, you’re going to make me cry). So as the weekly episodes came out and fans start speculating, THEY GAVE US THE LAST FEW EPISODES FULL OF ROMANCE AND EMOTIONAL SCENES BETWEEN THE TWO AND THEN THEY GET R I N GS?!???!! You watch for the figure skating, you stay for the figure skaters that are in love.
Shadowhunters (Freeform) 2016
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*insert me being frustrated that the actors are straight so we can move on from that disappointment*
This show really said “let’s name a whole episode after this couple because they deserve it”. But seriously, they gave us two characters whose entire plot does not center around their sexualities while still showing us the differences in a relationship between someone experienced and someone new at this. They were both powerful and amazing characters apart from each other, with their own story lines and goals but they loved each other so much omgs. SO MUCH. 
It was so great to watch.
Love, Simon (2018) 
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There’s a lot of disagreement on whether this movie is good representation or not. However, we need to take into consideration that this was Hollywood’s first movie with a main character that was gay, where the story’s focus was on Simon’s love story. The biggest problem, for me at least, was that the actor playing Simon is a straight man and not queer. My problem is not with him, but the fact that there are other actors that are gay and that could have played Simon just as well. (the love interested was however played by a queer actor so ✨progress✨)
All in all, this movie does represent what a lot of queer kids have to go through: being outed at school, how they then come out, the bullying and doubt they go through.
The book is also really good.
Call Me By Your Name (2018)
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This movie is so aesthetically pleasing and was able to capture the confusion and heartbreak felt by a boy who’s struggling with his own feelings towards a man. His inner conflict and joy and l o v e he feels but doesn’t know how to deal with is so well communicated through the screen and just breaks your heart because it feels so real.
But again, they could’ve gotten gay actors to play gay characters…
through having this list here, i want to show you that it’s not hard for creators to give good queer representation. the LGBTQ+ community isn’t asking for much, we just want to be well represented on screen as just a regular character, not some token queer kid there for the diversity points. having been exposed to so much queerbaiting and just not seeing any representation on screen, i always get over-excited when i see a queer character, and that’s not how it should be. it should be a normal thing, something you can find in most pieces of media, just like there’s a straight white cisgender person in everything.
and they seriously need to start casting queer actors for queer characters...
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