#queerbait

[khruschevshoe]

Give a hand to those in the Lokius fandom once again experiencing the sweet, sweet taste of queerbait in the year of our lord 2023. Join the queliot Fandom for peaches-and-plums margaritas in room 413, the destiel fandom for beers in room 1518, the supercorp fandom for flaming shots in the penthouse, and the Johnlock Fandom in the nonexistent basement for graduated-cylinder-champagne flutes!

Once you're drunk enough, we're burning down Disney hq at noon tomorrow-

#loki #lokius #mobius #disney plus #marvel #queerbait #arson #johnlock #tjlc #john watson #sherlock holmes #bbc sherlock #destiel #queliot #quentin coldwater #eliot waugh #dean winchester #castiel novak #supernatural #castiel #the magicians #I'm laughing bc U was victim to the great queliot queercatching #supercorp #lena luthor #kara danvers #supergirl

[thatlgbtqfandom]

I've watched a few interviews with the cast and crew of Good Omens and can I just say that, as someone who was a BBC's Sherlock fan back when it was still airing, it makes me so incredibly happy to finally have a show that not only doesn't queerbait (yes, the bar is in hell), but where the actors seem genuinely happy with and open about the queer direction the show is going in, and where they don't shame the fans for also being happy about this development. I just watched an interview with Michael Sheen where he, almost unprompted, brought up fanfiction and said that he thinks that it's a shame that people used to be weird about fanfiction because he thinks it's amazing and shows a love for the show. And... as someone who kind of still gets upset whenever I'm reminded of certain interviews and panels with the cast and crew of Sherlock (if you were in the fandom I'm sure you know which ones I'm talking about), this unabashed celebration of queer joy from the cast and crew of a big show like this is just something I could never have imagined as a young, queer fan!

I get that there are different circumstances, Sherlock fans could definitely be a lot sometimes, and maybe it's cruel of me to compare shows like this. But I genuinely believe that Sherlock did some actual damage to my (and many others') trust in media and in creators. It's one of the main reasons I absolutely didn't believe Our Flag Means Death would do what it did even when I was seeing it play out before my very eyes. It's why I didn't believe Crowley and Aziraphale would ever even come close to actually expressing their feelings for one another despite all of the queer subtext in season 1 and despite the cast and crew calling it a love story. Maybe all of this even added to my suspicions that they weren't going to follow through because we've all been let down time and time again.

And I'm not trying to pin the fault of queerbaiting solely on Sherlock and the team behind it - I am aware that there were many other big shows and movies that also queerbaited at the time. But out of all of those shows, I mainly watched Sherlock and it, along with the interviews with the cast and crew, were my main points of reference for what to expect regarding queer representation in (especially mainstream) media at the time. Which is why I'm mainly using Sherlock as an example of this unfortunate trend.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that with all of these shows now subverting our very, very low expectations for what kind of space queer characters and queer stories are allowed to occupy in (especially mainstream) media, I feel like my teenage self is starting to heal just a bit. But, both back then and in hindsight, I'm also completely baffled that a few shows in the late 2000s and early 2010s were able to get away with the shit they were pulling and completely ruin young, queer fans' trust in both creators and in their own media literacy.

#good omens #good omens season 2 #go2 #good omens spoilers #good omens season 2 spoilers #go2 spoilers #bbc sherlock #sherlock #our flag means death #ofmd #our flag means death spoilers #ofmd spoilers #queerbaiting #queerbait #fan culture #fanfiction #fanfic #fandom

[battlecouplesoulmates]

I've seen posts lately calling Bumbleby, Catradora and Lumity queerbait even after they became canon just because they were slow burn romances.

This is not queerbait.

This is queerbait.

Universal Pictures using a well known ship to promote their movies knowing they wouldn't be canon to get queer people to watch is queerbait.

Obviously, I'm not blaming Anna, Brittany, Kay or Trish because they didn't know. It was out of their control.

Also I can't believe it took me 2 years to find out about the Bechloe leaked kiss.

#bechloe #bechloe otp #bumbleby #bumbleby otp #catradora #catradora otp #lumity #lumity otp #queerbait #queerbaiting #Youtube

[divinisable]

Can't believe there was a time when we fought for our LIVES to prove that there's a chance that Will might be gay and THEN we had the audacity to say that he might have feelings for his best friend and that's CANON now

#i guess you could say we were ahead of our time #requited byler soon #mike is gay and in love with will #byler #miwi #stranger things #will byers #mike wheeler #mlm #gay #byler proof #byler is real #byler endgame #when blue meets yellow in the west #queercoding #queerbait #byler theory

[symphonic-appliances]

btw i will never ever get over the scene in bbc sherlock where john says “i’m not gay” and irene says “well i am. look at us both.” such vile, nasty, disgusting queerbait. the sherlock writers will pay and they will pay 5% interest for every year since that scene was aired.

#bbc sherlock #sherlock #sherlock holmes #john watson #irene adler #johnlock #queerbait

[naturestheway22]

Watching Marvel Entertainment’s Loki Season 2 (2023) starring Tom Hiddleston and Owen Wilson

#eric marten I’m in your walls #loki #lokius #loki series #mobius #loki and mobius #loki season 2 #loki x mobius #genderfluid loki #bisexual loki #queerbait #queer characters #queer discourse

[theshamblewithsybles]

I’ve been queerbaited a lot and every time I run to the clown store for clown make up and I’ll grin ear to ear while putting that shit on

#so many times #destiel #lokius #steddie #johnlock #merthur #supercorp #too many to name #queerbait #clow makeup is ON #and I’m READY #At least after a queerbait the fanfics are awsome

[trans-gay-arospec-mike-wheeler]

Things about queerbaiting people have forgotten

Real people can’t queerbait

You can’t “queerbait yourself”

It’s always intentional

Queer coding does not equal queerbaiting

Not every queer ship that doesn’t end up together is queerbaiting

It’s not just text and subtext, if you are selling official merch related to the ship and they don’t end up together it’s queerbaiting

Feel free to add on!

#byler #target audience #queerbait #queerbaiting

[cottoncandysprite]

Feel like I'm batting at a wasp nest with this but "the casual representation of sexuality and queer identity in wwdits is important and valuable" and "your favorite ship not being canon does not equal queerbait" AND "the vague way the writers treat guillermo and nandor, the only m/m pairing that isn't purely sexual or played off as a joke, is eerily reminiscent of the tactics used by queerbaiters and it's important to call it out before it continues" are all statements that can and SHOULD coexist. There's nuance to this guys

#just bc it isnt queerbait per se doesn’t mean it isnt bait #idk i just have a lot of Thoughts about that interview #something something we deserve better #ALSO that isnt to say 'purely sexual' relationships arent valid #just that it is important to show at least semi-healthy romantic relationships as well #what we do in the shadows #wwdits #nandermo #guillermo de la cruz #nandor the relentless #queerbait

[gayofthefae]

November 6 being right after November 5 is INSANE they better not fuck this up

#destiel #byler #stranger things #queerbait #supernatural

[khruschevshoe]

Yet again making the argument that Our Good Shadows is not the new Superwholock due to the fact that all three of these shows share sincere genuine artistic motivations and connections while the "Who" of "Superwholock" NEVER EVER belonged with the other two due to its sincere queer representation and groundbreaking rep (*cough* Jack Harkness kissing the doctor in an emotional goodbye, his relationship with Ianto, ALL OF TORCHWOOD BEING BI, etc. *cough*). Only once Stephen Moffatt got his fingers on it did things change. Thus, I must argue that The Magicians or your other contemporary queerbait of choice belongs in the new trilogy for sheer symmetry of "One Of These Not Being Like The Others." In this essay I will-

#superwholock #ourgoodshadows #supernatural #bbc sherlock #doctor who #good omens #our flag means death #ofmd #wwdits #what we do in the shadows #the magicians #queerbait #stephen moffatt's grubby grabby fingers

[cinnamon-ginger]

Here’s the tier list:

(I only used ships I know from shows/movies I watched! I will also put a blank version of the tier list if you want to make your own)

#cgtalks #queerbait #supernatural #destiel #voltron #Picard #Merlin #merther #legend of korra #korrasami #Star trek #spirk #saffi #supergirl #teen wolf #ouat #Sherlock #xmen #marvel #night at the museum

[that-weird-kid-from-your-school]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I the more people say "X show is queerbait!" or "X actor is queerbaiting!", the more I feel like screaming.

1.- INDIVIDUALS DON'T QUEERBAIT. COMPANIES QUEERBAIT. AN ACTOR, OF ANY SEXUALITY, PLAYING A QUEER CHARACTER IS NOT QUEERBAITING.

2.- Queer doesn't just mean gay men and women. Aro and ace people, who are very often left out of queer discussions and conversations, can have queer(platonic) relationships. Just because they don't kiss or have sex doesn't make it queerbaiting.

3.- Least importantly, it makes me feel like queer relationships in shows have to develop quickly. Queer people don't get slow burns in TV. Yes, I know the joke, that lesbians move in with each other after two weeks or something, but sometimes the writers want to share a queer story throughout various episodes/seasons, and that is not queerbaiting. And if the character (who has had queer relationships with others) doesn't end up with anyone romantically, that is not queerbaiting either.

I'm not sure if the last point makes any sense, but I don't see people talk about it and I like slow burns. I want variety with queer characters and relationships. Not just cis, white, able-bodied gay relationships (unless your story is about transphobia, racism or ableism within the community) who look at each other once and then hold hands next scene, then marry the next episode. GIVE ME PINING. PINING ISN'T QUEERBAITING.

#writing #queerbaiting #queerbait #queer #good omens #buddy daddies #random rambles

[doctor-mccoys-sanity]

I couldn’t have been prepared for the queerbaiting the two single words “For you.” would hold in the finale.

#loki #loki series #loki season 2 #loki spoilers #loki season two #loki s2 finale #loki finale #loki s2 ep6 #mcu #marvel #mcu loki #lokius #queerbait #sylki #sylvie laufeydottir #sylvie loki #mobius #mobius m mobius #loki x mobius

[catwouthats]

Lokius is not queerbait because queerbait does not have this much symbolism and cinematography supporting it.

In the least it will be queercoding and they will say Disney didn’t let them.

#I have some posts about the symbolism/cinematography if you are wondering what I mean #I need to make more posts though bc I have more to say #loki season two #lokius #loki mobius #loki x mobius #loki season 2 #loki series #queerbait #if you’re wondering why queerbait doesn’t have much symbolism and cinematography it’s because it would fuck up the plot #symbolism motifs angles color lighting etc all help the audience feel it more subconsciously #it helps give that gut feeling of something either bad or good coming #put it where you don’t want it and suddenly something feels off and doesn’t make sense #actors expressions and interactions are not the only things that make romantic scenes romantic

[anxietycheesecake]

Congrats to Paul Simms for finding the queerbait loophole. You can sparkle some gay sex jokes here and there, let characters state their queerness and tease the only serious gay relationship down to its grave while you never intended to commit, simultaneously going through every single homophobic showrunner talk point ("it's too deep for it to be romantic or sexual", "it'd be wrong because (lame ass excuse)") and even admit you do this because it makes people watch, yet most of the fandom will still act like you were so brave for that and didn't do anything wrong.

Ok, not queerbaiting because they're canonically queer. What do we call this bs then? Because let me tell you, it's going to set a precedent and you're not gonna like it.

#wwdits #nandor the relentless #guillermo de la cruz #nandermo #homophobia #queerbaiting #queerbait #discourse #negativity