Okay so I “made” a new gender apathetic/apagender flag because the one I found/we have was just kinda lacking for me?? Like it’s okay and I don’t dislike it, but I thought it needed something
So the current one, according to gender fandom wiki or whatever (https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Gender_Apathetic), is by @pridearchive (idk why I can’t tag them but I also just don’t understand tumblr so oh well)
But anyway, I’m not a huge fan of the fact that a lot of the definition relies upon the usage of the word “lazy” a lot, because like, while it’s true that laziness and apathy are similar, they are not the same. I was confused for MONTHS as to why everyone around me cared so much about their gender, both cis and trans people, and I just didn’t. Like, I thought my dad might understand cause we talk about queer stuff all the time and he was like “???… but I am a man, that’s just a fact… are you saying there’s people who don’t care??” And that confused me more cause I was like “wait even cis people care that much about their gender expression??” Because for me, I thought that trans people really cared about their gender identity and expression because of the dysphoria they dealt with from being born as the opposite sex. So, to hear that cis people also have a strong sense of gender and really care about the way they present and are perceived threw me for a loop.
So I went down this rabbit hole for, as stated previously, MONTHS, just trying to figure out if anyone felt the way I did because I felt fucking crazy. No one else spoke about not caring about their gender identity, not caring if someone called them a guy or a girl or something in between. I found labels like Aporagender (“a gender identity that is neither masculine, feminine or inbetween the two but nonetheless involves a strong sense of gender; a term similar to maverique.” - https://en.pronouns.page/dictionary/terminology#aporagender) and genderfluid (“a gender that varies, or changes over time.” - https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Genderfluid) and bigender (“a gender identity which can be literally translated as 'two genders' or 'double gender'.” - https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Bigender) but none of them felt right, even if I liked their flags.
But then, out of frustration, I decided to google “what is it called when you don’t care about your gender” and gender apathetic popped up. And I read the description and I felt so… understood. I felt like, no matter how small the group was, I had finally found people who understood me and felt the way I did. And then, because I’m annoying and visual, I saw the flag… and I was just… feeling very… ehhh…
Like, the brown, purple/lavender/light blue, white, and gray on their own aren’t inherently bad, but something about it just felt bland and… nothing like the sense of relief I felt when discovering I wasn’t alone.
And then I clicked through onto the post about the meanings of each color and began to like it even less
But, I pushed forward, ignoring my dislike of the color arrangement and meanings behind them and sharing my newfound label/identity and flag with my friends. I finally felt like I had something I understood.
That is, until one night when I got bored. And I started searching for flag makers to see what was out there. I came across a Reddit post about a custom flag builder (https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/ooz3tb/custom_pride_flag_builder/) which lead me to Team Ultima’s custom pride flag maker: https://www.teamultima.org/flag/
Needless to say, as an artist and someone who’s nitpicky about colors and designs, I was stoked to find something that allowed so much creative control! After messing around with it for a bit, I made this:
Now, I know it’s not really that different from the current flag. But, to me, this feels a lot more balanced and cohesive. With the one by pridearchive, the “light blue,” which we all know is just lavender tbh, was the only color that had a bright saturation besides the white. Our eyes are naturally drawn to it and this does not allow our eyes to flow along the flag and take it all in. We kinda see the purple and get stuck there. Not only that, because we expect white to be in the middle of pride flags (as well as Im sure a lot of other color theory reasons that I’m not knowledgeable enough to know of or explain), the flag felt top heavy and uneven, with no equivalent saturated color along the bottom. The flag was lacking horizontal symmetry and I think/hope I did a good job of bringing it to this flag without it feeling like it’s too much or too little.
With all that being said here are my/the new and improved color meanings:
Brown - The natural human desire to find a sense of belonging and community, even if said community is formed around having a label for not caring about labels. It can also represent the warmth and security felt by having a label that represents how you truly feel.
Light Blue - A feeling of tranquility and peace towards one’s gender identity and expression
White - The limitless void of possibilities in which one can express themselves
Lavender - The mixture of all genders, feminine, masculine, neither, and everything in between
Gray - Lack of gender stagnation, not caring if one’s gender presentation is not as simple as black or white
Anyway, I’ve never posted anything like this before so… lemme know if I’m totally doing it wrong and all my color meanings are terrible and way off base or whatever. I’m gonna make a separate post of just the flag and the color meanings and whatever so that people don’t have to read all my dumb backstory to get to the actual “redesign” 💅💅
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Apogender × apagender or cassgender combo?
Apogender, apagender / gender apathetic, and cassgender combo flag
I tried to simplify the stripes a bit to make the combo flag work.
Apogender was simplified down to just three stripes, light green, black, and dark green. The light green and black of cassgender was also combined with the other light green and black of apogender.
Gender apathetic is the top three stripes, with the grey moved to the bottom. The light purple was combined with the light purple/blue/greyish color of cassgender.
The light yellow color from cassgender was moved to the bottom.
The three flags used,
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is there a cis apathetic flag?
Hey anon, thanks for you question. :-)
I looked all over the place, but I wasn't able to find a cis apathetic flag. If you (or anyone else) would like to make a flag and submit it/tag me, please feel free to do so. I can also create one myself if requested. There are plenty of gender apathetic flags, though, but I couldn't find any that were specifically for cis apathy.
If anyone knows of one, please send me a message so I can link it here.
— Gent
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What nice timing to figure out my own gender identity, at the start of pride month nonetheless.
I am Cassgender, meaning you feel gender is unimportant to your identity, or just feel completely indifferent to the concept of gender.
I go by any pronouns! Happy pride! :0
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Hey everyone, my name is Odyssey Morningstar! If you want, you can also address me by my nicknames “Ozzie” (can also be spelled Ozzy) and “Oz”.
I couldn’t really fit alot in due to limited space but if you have any questions or just want to get to know me more, send me a DM!
I am a very open minded person and very patient and understanding. I have discord and Instagram as well so if you want to add me there you can, just ask!
I mostly lurk but i will comment and engage on posts here and there.
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Gender Apathetic/Apagender
According to https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Gender_Apathetic, “Gender Apathetic, also known as Apagender, Inersgender, or Anvisgender, is a gender identity in which one feels apathy towards one's gender.”
This flag is one that I made/redesigned based off of @pridearchive’s flag, the current Apagender flag.
Here are the color meanings and the hex codes I guess:
Meanings:
Brown - The natural human desire to find a sense of belonging and community, even if said community is formed around having a label for not caring about labels. It can also represent the warmth and security felt by having a label that represents how you truly feel
Light Blue - A feeling of tranquility and peace towards one’s gender identity and expression
White - The limitless void of possibilities in which one can express themselves
Lavender - The mixture of all genders, feminine, masculine, neither, and everything in between
Gray - Lack of gender stagnation, not caring if one’s gender presentation is not as simple as black or white
Hex Codes:
Brown - #7e4f20
Light Blue - #68d4fd
White - …do I really need to…? …fine… #FFFFFF
Lavender - #b6b8f9
Gray - #4b4b4b
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Day Three of LGBTQ+ Challenge - How I came out/ how I will
I actually only came out four days funnily enough, but that was only about my gender (cassgender and apagender) but I did tell my sister. I am not old enough to move out and I’m quite worried about my parents not supporting me being pan so I am just trying to tell them when I am eighteen, the my think that this is just a phase. The way I want to come out is at my cousins house, she is also pan, and maybe just slide it into a conversation. I just don’t want to make a huge deal out of it. I know some people sit down with their parents and tell but that’s not for me.
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