#false analogy

[contextforscriptures]

I think the dumbest take on a #Disney movie is one that some podcast Christian said about #Wish comparing Magnifico to a vilified version of God and let me count the ways that its stupid

1 Magnifico is not the source of life but a ruler Earth is clearly explained as the result or aftermath of a cosmic act of stardust the particles that are universal in the stars and on earth

2 the issue is with how Magnifico treats his subjects and grants their wishes (I suppose an analogy for prayers to this guy) but he only grants wishes in a methodical not even mysterious way it's a big show of who he blesses and those who make a wish can never remember what their wish was unless it is granted so that no one pursues their dreams without him this is a thoughts and prayers fallacy as James said one who wishes well but doesn't do anything is not showing love so God wants as to act according to our wishes

3 Magnifico breaks his own laws to protect his power and won't let anyone use magic to rise up against him but the Holy Spirit is given out to move mountains and the laws that seem broken by God protect the rights and autonomy of the oppressed

So if anything the star is the faithful and discreet slave while Magnifico is apostasy

#disney #disney wish #debunking conspiracies #false analogy

[wallacepolsom]

Wallace Polsom, The Year of the False Spring (2023), paper collage, 24.2 x 32.2 cm.

#wallace polsom #the year of the false spring #paper collage #collage #collage art #art #artists on tumblr #analog collage #contemporary art #handmade collage #handcut collage #21st century #wallacepolsom2023 #surreal #surrealism #surreal art #art history

[potjeh]

And humanity accepted him without question

#the mandela catalogue #mandela catalouge gabriel #Mandela catalogue #Analog horror #art tag #artists on tumblr #false prophet

[craetor]

He's fierce.

It's the flip phone honestly. It's not even on.

#my art #mandela catalouge fanart #mandela catalogue #alternate gabriel #false shepherd #analogue horror #mandela catalogue volume 4 #analog horror

[corrupted-ciphers]

This October, (I forgot I had a tumblr account, first of all) but I decided for a drawtober, I wanted to do mine monster themed, so I did a Monstober prompt list. You can check my list here, I'll just be posting the pics here.

Day 12: Imposter.

Featuring Gabriel from the Mandela Catalog.

#fanart #art #monster #digital art #angel #fallen angel #false angel #gabriel #archangel gabriel #the mandela catalogue #the mandela catalog fanart #analog horror #tmc fanart #tmc gabriel

[cinnamon-phrog]

Can I please have some comfort right now, if that's okay? People are watching me.

#i'm being impersonated and harassed #every day people in my past still try to find me. and i'm scared #not of what they might find. i have nothing to hide. but it's the constant fear of being watched and never being free #i'll never be free from the people who hurt me because they'll always find me somehow #i shouldn't be feeling so awful but at the same time. #i pour myself out to help others yet in return i get 'oh it doesn't bother me' and 'i've had it worse'. as if i doubt that for a second. #but please. not everyone has the same amount of emotional endurance. my patience has worn completely thin. #people i've known on here to be the most disgusting scum of the earth who no matter how many times i block them still show up in my inbox. #people from my old school still think they can get to me. a person who lied to me still wastes their time watching me #someone who i cared about the most probably still watches on and it's breaking me. #it always has been but i'm the sensible one. i'm not allowed to do this. i shouldn't be writing this but i'm getting desperate #i've taken deep breaths. i've drank water. i've done everything plus things i should not have to ease it off. #maybe the reason why i love puppets and artificial characters because i'm always used like one. like i'm a toy to break or put away #stupid analogy everyone has made for themselves but i'm done trying to be a good writer. the composer. #i want to feel without being judged but of course that's impossible. it's fine when it's strangers but relentless stalkers? it's wrecking m #it has been for ages but i was scared to say because i'm used to apathy and false promises. #i keep forgetting things and hurting myself. i'm getting scared.

[natabuggie]

i want false gabriel and the real gabriel to have an epic ass showdown like the one lucifer and gabriel had. or is lucifer false gabriel. i dont know. i just want to see them brawl

#tmc #the mandela catalogue #mandela county #adam murray #alternate adam #false gabriel #alternates #alternate gabriel #analog horror #tmcblr

[kakusu-shipping]

Fuck it, Virtue's Last Reward Self Insert Fic I thought of in the shower. Do whatever you want forever.

"If we are Termites, and our world is a beautifully constructed mound, what does that make you?"

The Anteater in the Lab

There's a man in my father's robotics lab.

He's short, with white hair and really really red eyes. I didn't know eyes could be red. I don't think they're supposed to.

He's been there my whole life. He's never changed.

He doesn't age, his heart doesn't beat, I've never seen him leave to eat or use the bathroom and he's cold to the touch.

At first I thought he was just another robot, one my father built to keep the Gaulem Bay running while he worked on more important matters

"Stay away from that thing!" My father snapped when I'd asked him about it the first time, "Don't trust it, don't go anywhere near it, you understand?"

At the time, I still thought my father had my best interest at heart, so I listened to him.

Mostly.

---------------------------

"Hello again, Kyle, Luna's not with you?"

Kyle, who'd put his babysitter Luna to a wild goose chase so he could make this confrontation alone, made sure the door was fully shut behind him before he dared to speak.

"What are you?"

The thing that looked like a man looked up from it's work on the Gaulem laying on the table, and placed it's tools down slowly. Kyle never hesitated with questions he had, in this lab curiosity was a virtue, and the one thing he'd always been rewarded for was seeking knowledge, so of course the anteater had always known this question would come, it was just a matter of when.

Kyle was only freshly 16, two years before he'd have someone to quell his loneliness, to project his need for a nuclear family onto. He'd long sense learned his father doesn't truly care for him, or long sense made such an assumption, and now that he'd reached such formative years he'd begun to act out, though only in the littlest ways behind his father's back.

This was one of those little ways.

The anteater smiled, "What a deep question. What are you, Kyle?"

"I'm human." Kyle answered, stepping heavily across the room until he was on the other end of the repair table, "Unlike you."

His words would come across as harsh to anyone else, but the thing that looked like a man had been watching over Kyle sense the Nonary Game yet to happen and all the way back to his creation. It knew him in ways no one else in this world ever would. It knew he was just being honest.

"Indeed you are. You're as human as Luna is Gaulem." The anteater hummed and reached for his tools to return to work.

Kyle, one slow to anger usually, slapped his armor covered hands on the table, "Don't avoid my question!"

The thing that looked like a man looked calmly across the table to Kyle, it gave a hum and tilted it's head.

"What do you think I am, Kyle?"

"I don't know-"

A finger placed over the part of Kyle's mask where his mouth would be, "Don't give me that. A good scientist always has a theory. Even if it's wrong, I want to hear your thoughts first."

Kyle's face flushed under his mask ever so slightly as he stepped back. He then placed his hand to his chin and thought, before answering, "When I was little... I thought you were a Gaulem, like Luna, put to work to make other Gaulems..."

The Anteater walked around the table and sat himself on Kyle's side, mimicing Kyle's pose, "A good thought. It'd explain my lack of aging and need for nutrients. But,"

"But," Kyle picked up, shifting his weight, "You're cold, whereas Luna is warm, and has a pulse. Plus, according to my father, he specifically made the Gaulems incapable of self repair, so it'd make sense that they couldn't build new Gaulems as well."

The thing gave a chuckle, ""He" made the Gaulems incapable of self repair, hm?"

Kyle blinked for a moment, then shared in the humor of his own statement. He'd learned a long time ago his father had virtually nothing to do with the creation of the Gaulems. Robotics and Bioengineering were entirely too far removed for one man to do both.

No, the real genius of the Gaulems, the AI that ran the facility, and even Kyle's suit was the Not Man sitting before him. His father just laid claim to these creations.

"What else might I be?" Asked the Not Man, crossing one leg over the other.

Kyle thought, his other Hypothesizes were far from perfect, "Well... We are on the moon. While never scientifically proven, space is near infinite, and I would not be surprised if you were some form of extraterrestrial."

"That would explain my advanced intelligence." The man confirmed, "Though I do look a bit too human, don't you think?"

"I would assume to blend in with other humans," Kyle suggested, tilting his head.

"But the only humans in this facility are your Father and you, and you both figured me out right away. Why would I not shed my disguise at that point? Or simply leave?"

Kyle hummed in thought, he could Maybe and What If this train of thought forever, but based on the resistance he was getting from the topic, he could only assume he was on the wrong track.

"Then... You're like my father, an esper who traveled through time to help him with his work."

The Not Man smiled and leaned back, "You're on the right track, but not quiet. If I was from your father's original time here to help him, wouldn't he be more accepting of me?"

Kyle thought back to the first time he'd asked about the man in the Gaulem Bay, and the sharp way his father had responded. He thought about the times he'd only been passing by and he'd heard his father yelling behind closed doors at this not man for interfering.

"Then you're here to... stop him?"

"Would he let me stay if I was?"

Kyle shook his head, he looked rather lost now.

"Not to mention, espers are still human. Your father may not act like it, but he is just as human as you. He needs to eat, and sleep, his heart beats and aches and flutters same as yours."

"Unlike you..." Kyle trailed off and placed his hand to his chin, thinking again.

When he was young he'd remembered reading about Zombies and Vampires, fictional undead creatures in horror stories that felt cold as the dead and who's hearts never beat. That seemed highly unlikely to be true, but it was about all he had left.

The not man stood up, he reached up and removed Kyle's helmet, as he'd done every time Kyle would visit him, and patted him on the head. His hand was cold. It was comforting. It was all Kyle had.

"What I am is something that cares very deeply for you, Kyle. Why I came here, why I help your father, it's because you are very very important to me." The cold hand moved to Kyle's cheek, "Is that enough of an answer?"

Kyle leaned into the touch of the one thing that cared about him most in the world, even if it wasn't human, it loved him. And he loved it.

"For now..."

#Emile's Writing #Self Insert #Self Insert Fanfic #Proship Selfship #Kyle Klim #K #Vitrue's Last Reward #Based on the uncanon ending where Akane addresses The Player as a canon entity in the world #Because the Nonary Games are VERY hard to self insert in to #The amount of characters is very limited on purpose and can't be added to #And replacing someone is very difficult as they all take very hyper specific roles and are usually interconnected between games #So I decided Fuck It. 4th Dimension entity it is #To play with Sigma's analogy #If they are Termites and the Game they live in is the Mound #I am the anteater that tears their world open and takes the best parts all for myself #I possessed a corpse and came to the moon because I saw Virtue's Last Reward and decided I would be there for Kyle #Sigma does NOT like me but that's because I made him experience all the endings in VLR even the unnecessary ones #To preserve the cycle I do erase myself from everyone's memory when the game starts #So Kyle does still have his lonely childhood backstory and his co-dependence on Akane #They're sort of false memories #That's the concept anyway #Thankyou for reading if you did I Apologize for going ham about K I love him he deserves better #And I will be that better for him

[no-1-rosalind-lang-apologist]

Anton just outrizzed Kaz Brekker god damn

#what like it's hard? #I’ve got you princess > I protect my investments #those scenes are only vaguely analogous I am just completely delusional #neither of them are anything like kaz or inej #but hey #chloe gong #immortal longings spoilers #immortal longings #il #flesh and false gods #fafg #anton makusa #calla tuoleimi #anton x calla

[lynnetendo]

i've said it before and i'll say it again: miss me with your insulting frustrating Comedic Topic Bingos (TM) when they are literally just statements in square table form. if you make statements in square table form, i cant stop you! cant complain! success! sexy of you to have put a bunch of words out there for people to measure how relatable you are, how accurate your future sight is, how good you deconstructed this topic. make that ask meme you wanted. hot af. go get that confirmation. slay. love. be free

however if you just put a bunch of statements in a square roster WITH SOME FIELDS IN A LINE DIRECTLY CONTRADICTING EACH OTHER OR BEING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, AND CALLING IT A BINGO, YOU'RE SUCCESSFULLY INCREASING MY LEVELS OF FRUSTRATION!! IF THE FIELDS CONTRADICT EACH OTHER IT'S NOT BINGO!! YOU'VE MADE IT UNFAIR BY DESIGNING IT WITH A SECTION THAT IS FULLY UNWINNABLE!!

and if you say "well not everything can be won. these arent supposed to be won" then why didnt you just Not make a bingo...

#/lh #lynne things #idk what to tag this #i get frustrated EVERY TIME I SEE ONE OF THESE VIRAL ASK MEMES IN SUPPOSED BINGO FORMAT #YOU WOULDVE BEEN SO VALID IF YOU JUST MADE A REGULAR ASK MEME OR PREDICTION LIST ETC #YOU CAN FORMAT IT AS A BULLET POINT LIST OR IN A JOKING SURVEY/QUIZ STYLE OR MAKE A PERSONALITY TEST OR A NORMAL ASS TABLE #besides destroying the bingo logic for no reason may i also say this would be better for you in many cases #because like with all structure models used as an analogy; youre running into the following obstacle (that list formats etc dont have): #you are forcing yourself to make it complete: #if you manage to think up 18 cool ask meme statements; you'll need to pull out at least 6 more to fill up a bingo square with 1 free space #why not make it easier on yourself by Not limiting yourself to the shackles of The Bingo Square #be free... be free #a bingo is very not free #this is lighthearted okay!!!!!! i may be genuinely frustrated bc of the sheer amount of false bingo prophets out there and their fans #but this is also just genuinely meant as a playful callout #i typed the post and the tags up on my phone... gross #google search which mental illness causes stupid logic based genuine frustrations like this #im waiting for someone to tell me 'actually in the year 1000bc bingos were...' or whatever kinda factoid that'll make me look like a clown #i already do?... success (i honk my way to the balloon exit)

[wallacepolsom]

Wallace Polsom, Life During Wartime: Possession (2022), paper collage, 21.2 x 26.2 cm.

#wallace polsom #possession #paper collage #collage #collage art #art #artists on tumblr #analog collage #contemporary art #handmade collage #handcut collage #21st century #wallacepolsom2022 #surreal #surrealism #fantasy #satire #false idol

[potjeh]

"You won't notice it at first. A change happening in your mind. There is no return."

#the mandela catalogue #false prophet #mandela catalogue gabriel #analog horror #Art tag #artists on tumblr #Tarot #Mandela catalogue prophet

[saint-daimon]

i'm happy my home found me by  which force I do not know i found my home and it grows by me in beauty

#men i trust #oncle jazz #found me #home #90s #zillenial #cozy #false margot robbie #millenial #zoomer #analog #90s aesthetic #90s vibes #90s style #Youtube

[incognitopolls]

Brief definitions:

Ad Hominem: Trying to undermine the opponent's arguments by using personal attacks rather than logical argument

False Dilemma: Presenting two alternative states as the only possibilities when more possibilities may exist

Bandwagon: Presuming that a proposition must be true because many believe it to be true/everyone else is doing or saying it

Incomplete Comparison: Comparing two things that aren't really related, in order to make something more appealing than it would be otherwise

Strawman: Misrepresenting an argument so that it becomes easier to attack

False Cause: Citing sequential events as evidence that the first event caused the second

Slippery Slope: Claiming that a single event will lead to a series of events that would lead to one major event, or that event A will lead to event B which must lead to event C and so on until event Z

False Analogy: Assuming that if two things or events have similarities in one or more respects, they are similar in other properties too

Guilt by Association: Connecting an opponent to a demonized group of people or to a bad person in order to discredit their argument

Hasty Generalization: Making a claim based on evidence that is too small to prove the claim

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#polls #incognito polls #anonymous #tumblr polls #tumblr users #questions #polls about ethics #submitted dec 16 #logical fallacies

[incorrectbatfam]

Dick: Y’know what, sometimes life is like a box of chocolates.

Damian: I don’t like chocolate. Your analogy is invalid.

Dick: Well, it’s a good analogy! ’Cuz sometimes you get the gross chocolates with cherry centers.

Damian: All chocolate is gross.

Dick: Well, it’s like life. Sometimes you just have to deal with things you don’t like.

Damian: False. I’ll give the chocolates to someone who wants them.

Dick: Nobody’s gonna take—

Damian: Hey, Brown! You’d take the box of chocolates off my hands, right?

Stephanie, peeking into the room: You said chocolate?

Damian, to Dick: See?

Dick: That explains why you’re always pinning your problems on others.

#source: the down-upside finch #dick grayson #nightwing #damian wayne #robin #stephanie brown #spoiler #batfamily #batfam #batboys #batbros #batgirls #batkids #batsiblings #batman family #batman #incorrect batfamily quotes #incorrect quotes #incorrect dc quotes #dc comics #tw food mention

[comicaurora]

Nick Bostrom's "Fable of the Dragon Tyrant," which CGP Grey adapted into a video, left me feeling unsatisfied, and I got a certain unsettling vibe about the entire story.

I don't think it was the dragon's lack of agency, that just makes it an unusually traditional Western dragon.

You're a master at picking narratives apart to figure out why they don't satisfy. Do you have any insight, opinions, or cracktheories about why this story might be unsatisfying to some folks?

Probably because it's a very unsubtle metaphor casting the dragon as death, and death itself as a cruel, malevolent beast devouring and subjugating humanity for its own whims. This is very much intentional on the part of the writer. The paradigm of the story is that the dragon is huge, terrifying and incalculably cruel, and everyone lives their lives in the shadow of its terror or are just too deluded to recognize that it's COMING TO EAT THEM OH GOD

Intrinsic in this metaphorical structure is the idea that the dragon, aka death, is an artificial imposition on the natural order, and if we just got rid of the big ol' mean dragon, everybody would live forever and be fine. Accepting that the dragon exists is framed as a sign of desperation or even cowardice. This is an understandable read when facing a monster that only SEEMS timeless and inevitable (like LeGuin's thoughts comparing the current state of capitalism to the historical acceptance of the divine right of kings) but becomes bizarre when applied to something as legitimately factual as biological death. It's not even framed as unnatural death - the dragon specifically gets sent mostly old people. The metaphor is very explicitly about trying to frame death from old age as a big horrible dragon that everyone only thinks is unstoppable.

I get what they're going for here. The purpose of this story is to make the audience question if death is a true inevitability or if it can be fought, staved off, even defeated. But in the process, the story frames the systems of the world that have formed around death - doctors, pallative caregivers, will executors - as macabre gears in the machine dedicated to the genocidal cruelty of feeding the dragon.

In the dragon tyrant framing, these people only exist to make the rest of the world more okay with flinging themselves down the gullet of the dragon and to streamline the process by which everybody dies. By casting death as the enemy, everybody whose jobs are based on the compassionate act of comforting and aiding people suffering from loss become reframed as collaborators with the incalculably evil enemy, and everyone who's ever accepted their own death becomes a loser. This is a deeply cruel way to frame people who dedicate their lives to helping people through one of the hardest and most tragic aspects of life.

Damn, that's fucked up. Look at this eloquent idiot, explaining why we should be okay with letting a big dragon eat us because it's the natural order. Clearly he is wrong and it's not debasing at all to want to stay alive and not get eaten by a big dragon. This is a fallacy of false analogy: death is like being eaten by a big mean dragon. All his arguments look ridiculous when applied to getting eaten by a big mean dragon, therefore they must be ridiculous when applied to dying when your organs start failing because they've been running nonstop for nine decades and biological systems accumulate wear and tear like literally everything else in the universe.

Entropy increases; systems break down, from DNA to planetary orbits. Successfully shoot down the dragon and you'll end up outliving everything you thought was eternal, even the stars. The goal of immortality isn't really to personally witness the sun exploding, it's to have more good time. It's to make your twenties last into your sixties. It's to keep your back painless and your vision good for longer. We want to postpone the story's end as long as we can, and so we extrapolate "more time" into "I never want to die, I want to be young and healthy and hot forever" even though "forever" doesn't exist. To look to "forever" is to understand that your culture and language will drift, your home will eventually crumble out from under you, your shoreline will erode and change, your climate will transform, your tectonic plate will subduct or shatter, your moon's orbit will slow and tidally lock, and eventually your sun will start burning helium and cook your planet. You don't want "forever" to look like that, you want it to look like your twenties felt. But at that point you aren't fighting the Big Mean Dragon That Eats People, you're fighting the ocean and the biosphere and the earth and the stars, trying to hold them in place against entropy so your immortality can have an equally immortal world to enjoy it in. No, this argument doesn't want true immortality, it wants their twenties to last longer. But it can't admit that.

Back to the story. There's a condescending and spiteful tone in the narration. Death (being eaten by a big mean dragon) is OBVIOUSLY awful and we should all be fighting as hard as we can to make it stop happening. Even a child can see it.

The story even helpfully adds a lengthy moral explanation at the end, in case you didn't understand that the dragon was the inevitability of death and we should dedicate all our resources to figuring out how to make a big rocket and shoot it.

"Nobody should ever die" is generally understood to be a childish dream with extremely obvious and unpleasant consequences that would turn its realization into an unending and waking nightmare, and once out of the confines of easy metaphor, the story tries to act like that wasn't what it was just saying. But its more realistic proposed substitute, "It would be great if people could live longer and have more healthy, youthful years in them," is probably the world's most uncontroversial statement. This story frames it like a bold revelation that the world will attempt to beat down and crush out of a misguided acceptance that Big Mean Dragon comes for us all. It's a morality fable whose conclusion is "I hope science improves the length and quality of our lives, potentially even to the point where we never have to die at all," which has been the number one goal of huge swaths of science since the invention of agriculture. This is not a bold or controversial take. It's just being written as though we're all looking at the naked emperor and pretending he's wearing pants.

#asks #not aurora