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#Martin negative
teamfortresstwo · 6 months
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I feel like Martin could’ve been a really interesting character in tma but so much of the content about him is about jmart and being like “oh he’s so nice!”. Character who should be put on a high up shelf for a tiny bit while the fandom considers it a little maybe. He has a bunch of moments I really liked but I’m not a huge fan of the interpretations most people have.
I got somewhat more rambly than usual and most of my mutuals probs don’t want to see this so:
YEAH SO TRUE!! He is literally so compelling in s4!! There is so much to like about him!! There’s so much I want to know more about and an arc I wish so badly that he’d had!!!…..
But then he just. Kinda didn’t? Like they put a bunch of cool ideas for him on the table then pushed them all off in s5 by giving him nothing to do except nag at Jon which did nothing but make him sound really annoying. Plus like…. He was framed more righteously than before y’know? Like the narrative was leaning into those ‘cute little UwU bean’ interpretations and it just came across as so…. !!!! Like!! Annabelle Cane literally talks about how good of a web avatar he would make so why didn’t we spend ANY of s5 exploring that!! Why did we barely get to explore him at all outside of like 2 lonely based episodes!! Why is everyone convinced that he’s both super smart AND the epitome of moral righteousness!! We’ve only seen him be manipulative once (which lead do the end of the world) and then got a whole bunch of lip service about it and we were straight up told that a lot of his fluffier qualities are a straight up lie!! And nothing interesting comes of this AUGHHHH!!
Sorry for rambling a bit, I just remembered how much wasted potential Martin had and it hurt.
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nikredd · 6 months
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Peter: Wow, reforming your greatest enemy. Can't say I've ever done that.
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nonbinaryeye · 1 year
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I've really grown to dislike how most of the people approach s5 Jon (and Martin) time travels back to season one AUs. Because it can be sum up as "no one likes season one Jon, he's so stuck up and grumpy and repressed opposed to future Jon who is much more chill and more fun".
Because I don't think Sasha or Tim disliked s1 Jon? All their conversations seemed always quite friendly and relaxed? They throw him a birthday party. And Jon liked them and thought highly of them as well he asked for them to be transfered to Archives. He understandably disliked only Martin for lack of skills he should have had but did not.
All the negative feeling Sasha and Tim had against him came literally from them thinking Sasha should have been given the position of Head Archivist but that's it. They were even not so much annoyed with Jon but with Elias here honestly.
I would like to see some take when they are all weirded out by s5 Jon. I want season one archival crew bond over how they think s5 Jon is secretive and says ominous stuff all the time (And if s5 Martin is present as well I want them to be annoyed with his bitchy attitude.) Because s5 Jon and Martin could not anymore see the world through lenses on normal human and they would be all "We know what is best for you" while s1 crew would be more "No you don't. Not if you refuse to give us proper explanation. Stop acting like you know better, stop acting as we cannot take care of ourselves."
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zylice · 3 months
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Tom Hiddleston always gets the short end of the stick when it comes to ‘Loki.’
- His show didn’t have showrunners that actually knew about or cared about his character
- The original script he was given was blacklisted in 2018
- Michael Waldron the show ‘creator’ is a ‘phile’ and a sicko overall.
- Kate Herron said that they ‘made things up as they went along.’
- They wanted to ‘knock Tom down a notch’ in order to let Sylvie shine. I recall Taika saying a similar thing in relation to Ragnarok and even Feige removed him from Age of Ultron due to his ‘insane acting skills.’ 🙄
- Apparently Chris Hemsworth is ‘sick of Loki’ and said that he’s like a “clingy ex-girlfriend who can’t take the hint that it’s done, it’s over.”
- Taika Waititi said that Loki outshined Thor before so he wanted to stop that from happening.
- Taika wanted to put Loki in a porta potty:
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- Taika wanted Tom to get pregnant with a horse implying bestial r*pe!!
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- Most of his scenes from the movies were deleted
- Michael Waldron and Kate Herron said that they wanted to ‘knock Tom down a few pegs’ in order to give Sylvie a chance to shine
- He had to film the show during COVID which stuffed a lot of things
- He couldn’t promote the second season due to the SAG AFTRA strikes.
- He’s never featured in the Marvel opening title sequence
- He is still one of the ‘lowest paid Marvel actors.’
- He goes out of his way to promote Infinity War even though he’s only in it for 2 minutes!
- His series didn’t get the ‘spotlight treatment’ or have and show runners who KNEW anything about Marvel or Loki! Tom spent FOUR days showing them PowerPoint presentations showing them all about aloki and the MCU at the infamous ‘Loki Lectures’ but “SCREW YOU TOM AND YOUR CHARACTER! WE CARE MORE ABOUT KANG AND THE TVA, YOUR ‘CHARACTER’ IS JUST A PLACE HOLDER NOW!”
- They made him look older and less appealing in the show than he does irl. Look at him in some shots in the show then see him behind the scenes! The makeup, lighting and angles were unflattering at times! They even managed to remove that sparkle in his eye in the show but it was there behind the scenes!
- The director of S1, Kate Herron said that it was wanted Sophia/Sylvie to ‘knock Tom Hiddleston down a notch.’
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The director of S2, Aaron Moorhead said ‘Why don’t you just go away?’
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What we could have had… 😪 Poor guy. I wonder how he feels being bullied, exploited and sidelined all the time. 😢💔
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pinktwingirl · 6 months
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NO.
NO.
NONONONONO.
They did NOT just say that Hunter B-15, a character who literally helped enslave and torture Loki and called him a “mistake” is Verity Fucking Willis, one of his closest and most caring friends from the comics.
YOU FUCKERS DO NOT GET TO USE THAT NAME I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL FUCKING [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED]
(I am SO glad I’m boycotting this show seriously eat shit Eric Martin)
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kora-kat · 4 months
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I'm not saying Jmart have parental issues, but Martin was treated bad by his mom and fell for a guy who treated him bad at first and Jon had an emotionally distant grandmother and fell for a guy who pushed him away for a whole season..
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acacle · 9 months
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Hiding in the rain(+logs) "...Pretend you didn't see me."
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clown-eating-pig · 2 months
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I’m a simple tma fan. I see skinny Martin fan art and I immediately kill myself.
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2001hz · 1 year
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Maison Martin Margiela: SS10 'face' negative violet graphic t-shirt (2010)
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teamfortresstwo · 6 months
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Secret good ending to TMA where Martin is just left behind when Jon leaves
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ghost-in-the-corner · 4 months
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An Ode to Somewhere Else
With the official release of the Magnus Protocol coming up so quickly, I find that I'm upset with how it'll change the Magnus Archives, specifically the ending.
It was a phenomenal ending. Poignant and emotional, it felt like the perfect bookend to the story. I started balling my eyes out the moment the last tape finished. It allowed for a bit of closure with the more secondary main characters, but left the two we'd been following since the beginning up in the air.
Sure, happy endings are wonderful. It's always nice to hear every question answered. But ambiguous endings are so deep and meaningful, far closer to what you'd find in real life. Not everything is happy or set out in black and white. We can never predict what the future holds. Sometimes you get lost. That's life.
And I think that's what Jon and Martin needed. Was to get lost. No matter which way you look at it, they both had a hand in ending the world. They saw so much fear and suffering and couldn't do anything about it (not that they didn't want to). They - and by extension, the audience - knew so much. That's what makes the original ending so beautiful. They finally don't know something. We finally can't see something.
And that lack of clarity gave way to some of the most beautiful things I've ever read. The amount of TMA AUs that begin with Somewhere Else is insane and I love it. It's great that we can finally imagine them getting a happy ending. Or we can imagine them becoming even more tragic. Or both. Or neither. It's an open ending; that's what they're for. Ambiguity invites imagination.
It's not that I'm not excited for the Magnus Protocol; I'm hyped. I just wish that I listened to the Magnus Archives back before the sequel was announced, where the last click of the button was the sound of an ending spilling into somewhere else.
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[Transcript:
Trucker Ted: "...and then my truck starts sliding on the spilt molasses, next thing you know I look down the street and I see HIS elephant truck coming right at me, and we collided. What are the odds of two trucks carrying circus elephants crashing into each other?"
Policeman: "Yeah, what are the odds? I smell a Murphy...."
Policeman: *points at Martin hiding behind a newspaper* "MURPHY!"
Martin, sobbing: "I just wanted a latte, I'm sorry!"
/End Transcript]
I have been thinking about this scene for AGES it's so fucking funny to me
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emodialisse · 6 months
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The way his face softens 🥺❤️
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linoone · 7 months
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i should be studying for a test
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pinktwingirl · 5 months
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When you realize that the Loki series writers hate Loki so much that they brought him back from the dead just to give him a fate that’s literally worse than death
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quotorize · 8 months
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Negative people will reveal their dark side as you begin to rise. Positive people will share their light and encourage you to shine. Christy Ann Martine
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