#anti Lucifer

[powerpuffobsession]

As much as I love Adam for a few fun parts of his character and for what he could have been at the hands of a competent writer (as shown by the fanfics where he gets properly developed)...

I feel like he (and the way he's characterised) is what broke Hazbin hotel season 1 pacing, Lucifer's character and the show's overall atmosphere.

(Long and packed rant under the cut, because I've been having these thoughts since I saw season 1, and I want to share them. Viewer discretion is adviced)

Before Adam existed (pilot era) it was all simple and worked more properly: a story about the hotel and its inhabitants, and most importanty, redemption. It was a small snuggly location with a few characters in the center of a plot

Heaven was in the background and kept as a mystery. Moreover, from what we've seen in the pilot, Lucifer was obviously a background villain or at least an anti hero, one of the real obstacles for Charlie to overcome on the way to her goal (instead of a minor inconveniece resolved in a single broadway song)

But when Adam and his weird obsession with murder broke into that perfectly cut out premise, everything just shattered. Too many themes got weaved into the short story of the 8 episodes: Heaven vs Hell politics, overlords, war, Charlie's conflict with Adam, the seraphims...

All of that pushed the hotel and the redemption to the background instead of Heaven.... in a cartoon that's named after the hotel. Because 8 episodes is not enough to talk about politics, a war and a 6 month redemption course (the latter even happened behind the screen with only some verbal hints given about the amazing secretive progress the hotel guests made that we were not allowed to see!)

(Had this cartoon stayed indie, there would have been a possibility of making more episodes and tackling more themes properly. But big name broadway actors are more important than that, it appears)

Back to Adam.

He is not even a good villain. He really should have been more of a background antihero. Give the man some sedatives, for f's sake! Where did all that rabidity even come from, after centuries of living in Heaven? Honestly, he'd be expected to act calmer and wiser than how he actually did, especially with how old he is (as old as the earth itself). But instead it's like he got frozen in a state of a dumb jock bully from high school

Imagine if Adam allowed Charlie and her hotel guests to prove that redemption is possible, out of principle, or curiosity. Hell, maybe even allow him to threaten to kill them, but not straight away! Later, after they fail to prove him wrong! If that's what Adam's role had been, the hotel part would have gotten time to breathe and more spotlight

All Adam did in the series, was:

1. make a lot of excessive noise

2. do dumbass things (and it wasn't even explained WHY he's the way he is, not even a single flashback or his own musings and thoughts shown, which makes all of his actions fall flat in every sense)

3. break the remains of logic (Heaven looks plain dumb because of him, not able to tell sinning from non sinning and to judge human souls properly. It's not even corruption, since Adam is not that important or benefitial to Heaven, an actual archangel like Michael could have been leading exorcists in his place and do a better job.... it's just stupidity)

And then Adam just died, for nothing and with no consequences.

I mean, straight after Adam's death Lucifer is immediately trying to divert the viewer's attention: "who wants pancakes? :D". It's like the cartoon itself doesn't care that the first human, one of the most mysterious beings in vivzieverse and someone who badly needed a second chance and therapy, just died. By a very stupid joke too (Niffty didn't even have to stab him).

In short, Adam's plotline is a huge waste of screen time...

And while his final smile to Lute may give us some hints that there's something good inside Adam, but it's more akin to mockery. Since we were never shown that there's more to Adam besides "the main character's opponent=ultimate bad"

And of course Lucifer was retconned into a pathetic uwu boi, who's depression and "silliness" have overshadowed the fact that he practically doomed humanity to a life full of pain, suffering and surviving and took away Adam and Eve's home. We don't even get the slightest glimpse of what exactly Lucifer DREAMED of that was so important to force him to do the humans dirty. Meaning it was something abstract and not thought-through anyway.

(Free will my ass.. Adam and Lilith did as they pleased in Eden without the free will, Adam ordering his wives around, Lilith being able to defy him and Eve being able to disobey God. What good did "free will" from that fruit even do them? If anything, it only did harm to everyone)

And so now this daft egotist is being portrayed as this selfless harmless character only for the sake of contrasting the painfully obvious bad evil that Adam is.

That comes off as black and white writing, fit more for a childrens cartoon, despite the show critisizing Adam for thinking in black and white terms. Not a good look

#hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel criticism #anti lucifer

[romanceclub-confessionss]

Confession:

"Save for a few exceptions, I'm really not a fan of the more toxic LIs. Take Heaven's Secret for example, I don't like Lucifer and I like Malbonte even less. It'd be one thing if I was interested in them even from a story perspective, but I just don't see the appeal at all when it comes to most of them. Instead, I find these types boring at best or feel like MC needs to get a restraining order at worst."

#romance club #anti malbonte #anti lucifer

[were-all-idjits-here]

TW: assault/abuse/true crime

I just realized something so sad. I was thinking about why so many women are into true crime, and feel it’s usually cuz they’ve had men do so much creepy shit to them, have had to practically become psychology experts to protect themselves, and get a sense of solidarity from other people who have similar experiences.

It’s canonically know that Sam Winchester also likes true crime (pretty sure Dean even makes fun of him for it in one episode, calling it something like “your murderer podcasts”) because he’s also has a man do horrible creepy shit to him. And that is why I will never, ever stan SPN’s Lucifer.

Maybe this was obvious to everyone else, but I feel like I’ve never been able to explain why so many women love true crime till really thinking about it this morning and then this thought hit me.

#sam winchester #supernatural #anti lucifer #tw: assault #tw: abuse #tw: crime #dean winchester #castiel #jared padalecki #jensen ackles #misha collins

[grayluforever]

There are people who die trying to bring their baby into the world, would you call that “easy”? I wouldn’t.

Childbirth can be incredibly hard. It can rip a persons body apart. It can destroy a persons mental health.

I am glad it was so easy for you, but if you have another child, it might not be that time.

#anti childbirth #tokophobia #God caused Eve and all women to experience pain at childbirth because of Eve’s sin #adam and eve #the bible #anti lucifer #anti pregnancy #anti labor pains #Eve would not have had the increase in birth pangs as a result of her disobedience.

[killerpancakeburger]

So I'm playing book 35 and Beel has broken Lucifer's CD yadda yadda and I feel like *Lucifer's cursed CDs get us into trouble* has already happened multiple times 😅 Like the younger brothers are always blamed for breaking/touching his stuffs which is understandable bUT, is no one gonna call out Lucifer on the fact that he KNOWS his brothers' behaviors and yet still keep dangerous shit like that at home?? He could have it at Diavolo's castle or whatever, specially with MC, a fragile and curious human around -_- Like "omg why did you touch my super mega cursed album of a thousands painful deaths??" "WHY DO YOU HAVE THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE??"

#anti lucifer #anti lucifer league #obey me #obey me game #rambling into the void #mine #also its like a big red button u kinda wanna touch it despite all the warnings lol m

[some-bear-out-there]

Shows that disappointed me:

How I Met Your Mother

Game of Thrones

Lucifer

Ted Lasso if Ted goes back to Kansas

#Ted lasso is on thin ice rn based on cast interviews #anti game of thrones #Anti himym #Anti lucifer #Maybe anti ted lasso #I hope I'm wrong #The Dorothy hints are worrisome #My hyperfixatiom ends very quickly when I don't like the ending of a show #So maybe it's good if the ending sucks

[notcreative360]

*In the library, with the Anti-Lucifer League..*

Satan: Alright time to make plans to absolutely ruin, and destroy Lucifer. Got any plans?

Belphie: We could put a curse on his pillow so he'll end up having nightmares every time he sleeps.

Satan: Ok, not bad, not bad. Mc? How about you?

Mc: Glitter.

Satan: Wha? Glitter? How is glitter supposed to ruin Lucifer?

Mc: We explode him with glitter in his room. Not only will it be a big hassle to clean off, BUT he will find glitter everywhere, everytime. Because once glitter gets on something, it never leaves. It will also keep finding random places to appear, he'll see glitter for centuries, hehehehe.

Belphie: ..You devilishly little sheep~

Satan: Alright lets do it!

#Next thing you know it's the Anti-Lucifer League that ends up being exploded with glitter #obey me #obey me game #obey me shall we date #obey me incorrect quotes #obey me nightbringer #omswd #obey me Anti-Lucifer League #obey me lucifer #obey me satan #obey me belphie #obey me belphegor #obey me mc #obey me shenanigans #obey me sheep mc #obey me brothers #obey me crack #obey me shitpost

[alacetor-the-duckies-deer]

It's so important to me that we all understand that hell and heaven in the Hellaverse aren't like two separate territories with equal power in a war that heaven happens to be winning.

Hell is a territory that Heaven rules.

Lucifer may be the king, but that is a position he was given by Heaven, because they have the power and authority to place people in charge of Hell,

And it's all well and good he WANTS to do better as a ruler. That he takes it seriously, or did at one point and/or is coming around to it again in the show, but its a possition with only as much power as Heaven wants to give it, and they want it to have less power than the General of Heaven's army, because Sera listens to Adam before she listens to Lucifer.

Lucifer, an Archangel, doesn't get to make demands of heaven. He doesn't even try. He gets to ask Sera to please stop the genocide of the people he was told to watch over. He gets to concede when they say no. Because heaven just gets to say no, because they get to decide what happens in hell without taking into account the opinions of Lucifer, or the seven sins, or the goetia or anyone in hell.

We all get that right?

That Charlie and the other's defending the hotel wasn't just the citizens of hell going up against an invading army. It only counts an an invading army ans not the occupying force because they don't actually stay there year round

Hell didn't just win their first battle in a war that's been raging for millennia. That was the first time hell organized to fight back against their theocratic dictatatorship- if not ever, than in millenia.

That was act of rebellion.

That was Hell declairing independence.

#Charlie's the one actively and intentionally rebellion against heaven #im so proud of her #my little anti christ all grown up and off to topple the theocracy #hazbin hotel #lucifer hazbin hotel #charlie hazbin hotel #sera hazbin hotel #alastor hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel alastor #the radio demon #alastor #vaggie hazbin hotel #husker hazbin hotel #angel dust hazbin hotel #angel dust #nifty hazbin hotel #sir pentious #hazbin hotel sera #adam hazbin hotel

[irishmammonagenda]

Your mischievous giggling makes Lucifer sigh, looking up from his paperwork, he stares at you as you make your way towards him.

"MC, if this is for the Anti-Lucifer League, think wisely about the consequence-"

Laughing, you boop his nose, (obviously saying the word 'boop!' as well while doing so, which leads you to more giggles) before giving him a soft quick kiss on the cheek and sprinting out of there cackling, knowing the Avatar of Pride won't chase you.

He will find you at some other point in time but that's a problem for future you.

In his office Lucifer smiles softly, touching his cheek gently, he'll get you back for the nose boop though. Just who do you think he is? Some lovesick idiot?! For you, he is but that's besides the point

Even though Satan and Belphie definetly will not think so when you tell them, you'll consider this 'prank' a win for the Anti-Lucifer League. (Even though it wasn't even a prank and you jut wanted to kiss your pretty boyfriend)

#obey me imagines #obey me shall we date #obey me x reader #obey me headcanons #omswd #obey me lucifer #obey me luci x reader #obey me mc #obey me lucifer x reader #lucifer x reader #anti lucifer league #obey me fluff

[turtleybeachin]

I forgot how absolutely ABSURD the anti-lucifer league is.

Lesson 17-20, Satan and Belphie create the Formerly Anti-Lucifer League and drag MC along to do their first prank. They need to break into his locked/warded study in the library, and are trying to guess the password Lucifer would speak aloud to gain entry.

.... I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your spoken fanfiction, boys, please. Don't mind me. ????? 😂😂😂

Like okay, the Diavolo is everything, I would die for you Diavolo, fine, we're trolling. I get it. He's a little too fond of his prince.

But the I love you so much it hurts? The there's nothing I wouldn't let you do to me?? The in fact there's so much I wish you WOULD do to me??? I think I've read those smutty fanfics, did they read the same ones or were they ghost-writing those?

Anti-Lucifer League meets up once a week to read their DiaLuci fanfic to the group. Mephisto is part of the fanfic shipper club. They sit around a laptop furiously typing up their 73 chapter slowburn romance novel of Diavolo and Lucifer, where Lucifer is a desperately daydreaming sub longing for his prince and not realizing the affections are already returned.

They end each club meeting by reassuring each other this is definitely trolling Lucifer and they all definitely hate him and this whole thing is just because they don't like him at all and that's why they're doing this and for no other reason.

(Diavolo has Barbatos steal him a copy of their work in progress and he reads it as a bedtime story. He wanted to give them notes but Barbatos pointed out that would alert them to his theft of their secret project and would likely halt its completion and also humiliate those involved.)

#my writing #obey me #dialuci #anti lucifer league #obey me satan #obey me belphegor #obswd #obey me headcanons #obey me imagines

[earl-of-grey]

Radioapple 📻🍎 moment:

They loathe each other’s presence, but the moment Vox shows up on the hotel’s doorstep…

They beat the shit outta that tv screen together in beautiful harmony ❤️

#hazbin hotel #lucifer #hazbin hotel lucifer #Alastor #hazbin hotel alastor #radioapple #appleradio #two grown ass men arguing #they’re adorable #anti television #the family that hates vox together stays together #Lucifer grabbing Alastor #omg #eye to eye #imagine #Vox interrupting their kiss #beat his ass up #how sweet #couple bonding time

[paigeyssims2004]

BEHOLD, a meme that was made in a few minutes on GIMP- And no one cares...great...

Sooooooo Hazbin Hotel....what do I think?

It's peak fiction, sure the pacing is a bit off and the finale was a bit rushed imo (blame Amazon and A24 for that). But despite some flaws, I do think that this show is good; as in like:

"YO, WHO TF WAS COOKING AND GIVE THEM AN AWARD"

And since Season 2 is in the works rn, that'll allow them to flesh out some moments from Season 1 as like 'BackFlashes', see more of Sir Repentious and Emily, Alastor's and Lilith's interactions, and possibly Sinner!Adam. I SOOOOOO EXCITED AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!

#hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel memes #adam #hazbin hotel adam #hazbin hotel spoilers #hazbin hotel season 1 #anti-hazbin dni #i have a love hate relationship with adam #lucifer morningstar #lucifer #apple daddy #lucifer hazbin hotel #give us sinner adam #vivziepop #guitarduck #adamsapple

[moon-kitsune]

Lucifer: I currently have 7 empty notebooks and I have no clue what to put in them. Suggestions? Beelzebub, completely serious: Put spaghetti in it. Lucifer: I'm currently taking suggestions from literally anyone but you. Belphegor, smirking : Put spaghetti in it. Lucifer: I'm currently taking suggestions from anyone but you two. Satan, smirking even wider: Put spaghetti in it. Lucifer: I'm no longer taking suggestions.

#just two younger brother's annoying the eldest #anti lucifer league #obey me #obey me x reader #obey me shall we date #obey me mc #mc #obmswd #obm #obey me incorrect quotes #demon brothers #obey me fandom #obey me lucifer #obey me beelzebub #obey me belphegor #obey me Satan

[masterofdemons]

I don’t know if this has been done yet, if it has, forgive me.

But this has been in my head for awhile now and it makes me giggle.

#obey me #obey me shall we date #shall we date obey me #obey me lucifer #obey me x reader #anti lucifer league #obey me satan #obey me belphie #obey me smut #obey me incorrect quotes #obey me crack #obey me memes

[killerpancakeburger]

See this is why I hate this man- demon 😭💀

Why is he punishing MC here? The only reason I can think of is him being mad MC has power over him and now he regrets making a pact with them and he's mad at himself but takes it out on MC since his pride forbids any self destructive behavior so he just lashes out on others instead.

#anti lucifer #obey me #obey me lucifer #rambling into the void

[flappingdragon]

⚠️Rant⚠️

I’m so tired of seeing “dom Lucifer”, “top Lucifer”, and “daddy Dom Lucifer” Is he just not allowed to bottom?

Is he not allowed to feel like an ant under MC? Is he not allowed to grovel at MC’s feet and BEG for them to have their way with him? Is he not allowed to be submissive? Is he not allowed to be at MC’s mercy? Is he not allowed to be dominated? Is he not allowed to scream out MC’s name from pure overstimulation? Is he not allowed to be a slut for MC? Is he not allowed to be a brat for MC? Is he not allowed to be a whore for MC? Is he not allowed to beg for mercy? Is he not allowed to beg?

This man is clearly not just a “dom”. He can bottom, too. Just give him a chance and let him. Maybe he gets too tired and doesn’t want to do all the work for once.

I’m looking at the ones who always write gender neutral MC’s as bottoms. Maybe some people want to see more top gn MC.

Don’t be basic. Consider both sides. Look at your recent posts and think to yourself: Are they inclusive?

Let. This. Man. Bottom. For. Once.

#obey me rant #rant post #rant #sorry for the rant #obey me #obey me nb #obey me shall we date #obey me nightbringer #obey me one master to rule them all #obey me lucifer #obey me fandom #obey me hcs #obey me gn!reader #obey me gn!mc #obey me gender neutral mc #obey me swd #lucifer obey me #anti top Lucifer #let him be the switch he is #lucifer is a switch #obey me mc #I can’t grasp at how many bottom gn mc headcanons ive seen #the ratio to bottom gn mc to top gn mc is ridiculous #let mc top #let Lucifer bottom #anti dom Lucifer #point me to people who make top gn mc please #I’m so tired for looking for people who do #I feel horribly represented and horribly included in this fandom