#past wei wuxian/others

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

Parallel Lines and Brothers.

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#poorly drawn mdzs #mdzs #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #lan wangji #lan xichen #jin zixuan #Does anyone else think about the tragedy of the parallel lines? Of characters who are parallel lines? #Of running the same course as someone. Of echoing each other in perfect synchronicity. #It's more than being a foil. It's about being on the same path and being so near to each other. #and yet parallel lines never intersect. They cannot meet each other despite their existence being tied to another. #I think the brothers tragedy is just as much of a tragedy of parallel lines as is pre-resurrection wangxian. #Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian spend so much time running side by side and yet - they cant close this gap between them. #Even if their relationship never recovers - they are forever tied together through their past. The good and bad and ugly. #All the things that are left unsaid between them. All the love and sacrifices they made for each other that are never shared. Parallel line #I firmly believe any post-canon material that would have them be indifferent towards each other is just...really doing them a disservice. #And dear god the Lan brothers. They certainly love each other! Its a far fonder fraternal relationship than jiangxian (/platonic) #They fool you by having you think they have a good read on each other. Lan Xichen certainly wingmans + advocates for lwj! #But lets not forget - Lan Xichen by the end is in the reverse situation and headspace as Lan Wangji by the end of this story. #Lan Wangji is more free and open than he has ever been. He's in love. He's married. He and wwx are intersecting lines. #& LXC who grew up with and lived the same path as LWJ - who even is said to resemble him visually - his parallel line - shuts himself away #Despite all the love LWJ has for his brother I don't think he ever manages to reach him.

[evakant]

wei wuxian smiling at his shidis yunmeng jiang disciples as they rush to and swarm around jiang cheng THE UNTAMED (2019) — episode fifty

#recognition through the other. projection on the other. ''haha i used to do that'' (won't follow that thought any further**) #**for risk of losing his damn mind about it. we do not think about the past here no sir! it's all in his previous life! #theuntamededit #cqledit #mdzsedit #cdramaedit #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #yunmeng jiang #yunmeng shuangjie #dramasource #dailyasiandramas #cdramasource #cinemapix #usercreate #userthing #fdstuff #the untamed #rs: in our next lives #sort of !! oh well you know what i mean #i LOVE their wooden sheathes !!!!!!! #also remember that tag pointing out that it cannot be a coincidence that zizhen is wearing something so very close #to yunmeng jiang's color palette?? well. i did not particularly focus on him. everyone here has the same layers; quick and dirty coloring #and yet here we are.... who would have thunk it. #anyway wow these are ROUGH!! sorry <3 maybe i should have kept aspect ratio instead of cutting them up in squares?? mhhh...

[whoviandoodler]

one of the things that makes mdzs SUCH a great story is the fact that it's a tragedy with queer protagonists, but their queerness isn't the cause or the center of the tragedy. it's not even related, really. it's a story about love and loss and wrong and right, about what we owe each other and what we owe ourselves, about how you can find joy even amidst chaos and grief; its complexity and tragedy is what makes it so profound and touching. sure, there's 'casual' queerphobia in the story, but with everything else going on, it's not really relevant- wwx's mostly like, 'oh, i like guys? i like lwj? i love lwj? fuck, what if he doesn't love me back? am i being presumptuous to think he returns my feelings? what do I do now?' followed by 'wait, he loves me back??? we're getting married IMMEDIATELY', and that whole attitude is very refreshing because sometimes you just want to read a queer story that isn't about queer suffering but that's still incredibly miserable, and i think we as a queer community deserve it

#mdzs #lwj #wwx #lan wangji #wei wuxian #mdzs thoughts #dan talks #wangxian #obviously the story has its issues but. FFUCK i just want something to break my heart w/o having to read thru queer trauma #ik danmei in theory isnt aimed at queer audiences but compared to like. some of 'made for cisshet women' queer man content ive read in #the past mdzss iss a breath of fresh air. imo most issues lie w the sex scenes and the INSANE lack of lube but. #ill forgive it this once #their dynamic and love story is otherwise great. just dont take it ass sex ed lol ud fucking die #the sex scenes are funny tho. im always cackling and going YOURE GOING TO KILL EACH OTHER GOD SLOW DOWN #also in gen we need to uh. do better w tws bcs theres a LOT of noncon rp in there and i didnt see it mentioned anywhere in the fandom after #hours of being around it. books do tws plssss someones going to run headfirst into there and not have a good time

[travalerray]

something that makes me real sad is that since the CQL is a live action, the gestures and movements are more prominent as the characters speak. And since Wei Wuxian is a hyperactive character prancing around, it's very noticeable how much he sticks to Jiang Cheng in the beginning. When they are being driven out of the inn, he very explicitly has a whole arm around Jiang Cheng until they come face to face with Jin Zixuan. When Lan Wangji places the Silencing Charm on him, Wei Wuxian's immediate response is to start tugging at him. Like I haven't gotten far (and it is in fact a shame that we didn't get the piggy back ride.....like if Wangxian canon why censor the Chengxian piggy back ride /lh) in the drama but knowing the story is enough to make me very very sad.

#jiang cheng #wei wuxian #chengxian #cql #chen qing ling #the untamed #kk's liveblog tag #they love each other! Touching each other came as easy as breathing to them! Which makes it all the more heart breaking when WWX reaches ou #to wipe JC's tears in the temple with the words ''forget it. It's all in the past now'' on his lips! Touching brings back too many memories #after the fall of Lotus Pier! It can't carry the same innocence of childhood! It's too corrupted by the pain of sacrifice! #you can't think of each other without thinking of the pain! When does it all start! When does it end! #(cx need to start paying rent for how much they occupy my head. I would be rich if they do /lh)

[trans-xianxian]

nawt somebody saying that jin guangyao didn't actually wrong nie huaisang or nie mingjue in a way that they should get sympathy for and thus nie huaisang didn't deserve to kill him 😭

#GIRL WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT #they were like did his other atrocities really make it so he deserved to die uwu #we can go into the semantics of whether or not anybody Deserves to die all we want but like #lets not forget that jgy did many like genuinely horrible things #they were also like why did wwx go after killing him when jgy never really wronged him #uuuh are we forgetting that he played a huge hand in the torture of the wen remnants #in the campaign for the remaining ones death #in taking advantage of wn and killing wq #in orchestrating wwxs demise at nevernight and egging the public on to hate him and turn him into a scapegoat #that wwx was Bound to mxy to kill jgy #like. what are you Talking abt #maybe you don't think jgy deserved to die and thats your hot take and thats fine #but saying wei killed a bunch of wen soldiers in cruel and unusual ways as revenge for the massacre of lotus pier wuxian #would have any to object to jgys death #maybe he had matured past revenge post res #but he DID have reason to be against jgy #even before finding out he had a part in nevernight #like. the jins persecuted the wen remnants and wwx would have known that included jgy #anyway. #also I agree w part of the conversation being does Anybody deserve to die and what does that mean and who gets to make that choice #I think thats a good point and a good conversation in relation to the themes of the text #but to say that jgy did not inflict harm on certain characters #in a way where their desire to seek revenge does not make sense or illicit sympathy #is foolish #ghost posts #text #jgy #nhs #nmj

[t4tnalu]

YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS

#turning over people who were prisoners of war back to those holding them captive is NOT a reasonable thing to expect #i know they arent trying to say these things are fully equivalent but even so #does this not like. speak to jiang chengs position of privilege in mdzs that this is what he had to give up? #and like. yeah. ofc he had other people to protect and thats worth considering (which is why wwx didnt fully resent his choice) #BUT ALSO. everyone and their mother in the cultivation world let atrocities happen for the sake of keeping the peace #wei wuxian even did! he just didnt allow himself to continue doing so #so like. yeah hes better than everyone else lmao. idc. he made the morally correct choice and thats just. objectively true #mdzs #sorry for lack of image id i cannot copy paste things easily on mobile

[pakhnokh]

Mentor Wei Wuxian

In the past month I was busy rereading the novel. Reading the novel the second time without consuming the visual adaptations beforehand, made me imagine Wei Wuxian in his second life a bit differently. I don't know why but my mind keeps on picturing him with a shorter, more fit robe, and visible pants + high boots.  I think the main idea behind it is that his legs are more seen, which I guess fits his agile and wild character. I especially see him like this when in his second life he's tutoring the juniors and shows his own fighting and magic skills.

I also think it's a better contrast to Lan Wangji's many layers of long robes, (which, in my opinion adds to his ethereal, elegant and composed character). Wei Wuxian's character seems to be more lively, more swift and active, therefore I think I kinda imagine him with his legs visible. Sort of like in his younger days, but a different, shorter robe.

(Of course this design is not historically accurate, but I suppose that neither are the other designs in MDZS)

Interestingly, I didn't imagine any greys and reds on him either. I just see him dressed entirely in black, as a shadow shape, appearing here and there and causes trouble hehe.

Does it mean I will draw him like this from now on? I'm not sure. Probably not most of the times, because I still need him to be recognizable. But maybe, in some arts, I will.

#mo dao zu shi #mdzs #wei wuxian #wei ying

[berryberrytaeberry]

Not to start DRAMA but sometimes the internet says that Lan Zhan wanting to hide Wei Wuxian in Gusu is toxic behavior AND THAT IS SUCH A NO NUANCE TAKE because in ACTUALITY its phenomenal writing.

Not only does it tie into the novel's theme of morality being a consequence of perspective and context, but it's a perfect example of how the people you exalt are just as wounded and traumatized as those you shun. Lan Zhan never saw an example of loving another OTHER than hiding them away (RE: his mother). So don't sit here and tell me that Lan Zhan wanting to protect his Wei Ying from injustice and himself isn't him trying his hardest to love when he doesn't fucking know how (yet). The ENTIRE present timeline arc is Lan Zhan learning that love isn't something you shelter, but something you profess and exude every day no matter what anyone says.

MXTX is a master in literary contrast. Without past Lan Zhan fighting to bubble wrap Wei Wuxian, the final notes showing Wangxian's public affection means nothing. I argue its not toxic behavior. It's a masterclass in character development and a faithfulness to reality.

#mdzs #lan zhan #lan wangji #wei wuxian #wei ying #wangxian #berry agenda rise

[shanastoryteller]

Happy Halloween 🎃🎃🎃

Something lady Mo?

a continuation of 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49

Lan Xichen is more surprised than anything else.

He has often spent time over the past thirteen years expecting Jiang Cheng and Wangji to come to blows. Wangji holds him responsible for Wei Wuxian's death, something Lan Xichen both understands and doesn't.

Wei Wuxian had survived so much worse than falling off a cliff face that there are days that he's convinced Jiang Cheng's paranoia is correct and Wei Wuxian really is walking around out there somewhere. It explains why no matter how many times his brother plays Inquiry, he never receives an answer.

The rest of the time, he's sure that Wei Wuxian has to be dead. He loved too fiercely to stay away thirteen years if he truly walked on the same plane as all those he treasured most.

Wangji and and Jiang Cheng have kept a simmering hatred between them for over a decade, each putting too much blame on the other for how things ended with Wei Wuxian. To see them fighting to draw blood is not a surprise.

That it's over Xuanyu is. Then again, perhaps she is just the last straw, the last thing they can withstand the other mishandling.

Xichen keeps an eye on the fight and even as blood starts flowing he stays out of it. This is a long time coming and while he's not willing to let anyone die over it, perhaps a little spilled blood will clear the air and do them all some good.

But Xuanyu turns the corner, frantic, with A-Yao following behind, significantly less frantic.

She goes white, which can't be good in her condition, and then she leaps into the middle of the fight. Lan Xichen jumps to intervene, because if one of them hurts Xuanyu then the other really will kill him, and of course he never wants Xuanyu to be injured, but especially not while she's expecting.

Except it all happens so fast that he doesn't get the chance.

She unsheathes her sword and swings it behind her, stopping Wangji's blade from hitting her back with her own blade. Wangji freezes immediately, horrified.

Xuanyu uses her sheath to knock against Jiang Cheng's blade, putting it just enough off course that it misses her shoulder. She steps closer, grabbing his wrist that he raises automatically, stilling it and Zidian both. "Enough!" she snaps, meeting Jiang Cheng's eyes squarely and scowling.

Jiang Cheng goes perfectly still, except his eyes which go almost comically wide.

He looks like he's seen a ghost.

#prompt answers #prompts are closed #asks #forestandstardust #untamed

[jiangwanyinscatmom]

I find ultimate peace knowing that MXTX never intended or ever thought of reconciliation for Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng as a running theme in her novels is that forgiveness is not reconciliation if the other party has no interest due to the harm they dealt with from another that was wildly entitled to think they made them what they were or owned them due to a past they can't let go of.

#mdzs #mo dao zu shi

[hannigramislife]

Nothing confuses me like being in the mdzs fandom.

Sometimes, I feel like I misunderstand the story completely by some of the takes I see. As if my interpretations of the characters are backward completely.

Like, y'all do understand that one of the reasons Jin Guangyao never harmed Lan Xichen is because he simply never had cause to??? Lan Xichen was always in his side, but let me be absolutely clear, if he had become as much of a problem as Nie Mingjue was, I don't doubt Jin Guangyao would have sacrificed him for his personal safety as well. Not because Jin Guangyao didn't care, but because his whole thing is that he'll do what it takes to survive.

In addition, Wei Wuxian is not innocent in all that mess. He is not a misunderstood hero who was turned on because society didn't accept his cultivation ways or whatever. Wei Wuxian died because in his first life, he did what he thought was right...with absolutely no pre-planning and no care for consequences whatsoever. He never thought past his own perspective and didn't realize how his actions could affect others, and he definitely didn't realize he doesn't live in a vacuum. Lives were lost to his arrogance/ignorance.

I have other hot takes, some of which I've talked about before; like how Jiang Cheng is actually a phenomenal character, how Xue Yang's actions are the easiest to understand despite their nature, how Lan Wangji's fatal flaw is his righteousness and how Nie Mingjue did not at first judge Meng Yao due to his birth status—

However, I feel like that might be a can of worms I'm unwilling to open, battles I'm not willing to fight.

...

What remains an undisputable truth however, is that Jin Ling is the best boy, who has done nothing wrong in his life, ever—

#the untamed #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #xue yang #nie mingjue #jin ling #jin guangyao #can you tell that jin ling is my baby?

[dani474]

Tell us your theory on why he says that PLEASE. I don’t think it’s true they have to fix things 😭

So, this post points out a huge flaw in Wei Wuxian's response and its discrepancy to what we know of their relationship in canon. The Golden Core transfer is one of MANY things they need to discuss to get past their estranged, brittle, slightly obsessive relationship.

When we take a close look at why Jiang Cheng is so angry and so hurt here, it's not just about his family or any debt Wei Wuxian might have had to his parents. Ultimately, it's about Wei Wuxian's promise to remain by Jiang Cheng's side. He lost his parents and their entire sect, then he lost his own core trying to protect Wei Wuxian (who doesn't know!) then his "martial brother/brother/best friend/whatever" not only goes missing for three months but returns with new powers and new issues he won't share with anyone. Not even Yanli.

Jiang Cheng wanted to protect Wei Wuxian but was unable to due to larger political circumstances and the fact that he didn't know about the transfer. He didn't know why Wei Wuxian was using demonic cultivation! He warns Wei Wuxian again and again that there are larger risks of his cultivation, and he turned out to be right. Trouble found Wei Wuxian even when he ran off and hid peacefully! And he never knew why.

To Jiang Cheng, Wei Wuxian asking to leave the sect -- regardless of whether or not it was to protect them from further scrutiny by the other sects -- is him asking to leave Jiang Cheng's side. To break their promise without any explanation. He already lost so much and all he can see here is losing another person he loves.

I want to drive that point in, really.

Any insecurity Jiang Cheng feels over Wei Wuxian's capabilities is often outweighed by his sense of responsibility towards rebuilding his sect and attempting to protect what remains of the family he had before the attack on Lotus Pier.

He didn't want to tell Wei Wuxian about why he lost his golden core for the same exact reason that Wei Wuxian kept the surgery a secret. They didn't want to hurt each other with the knowledge of such a great sacrifice. A sacrifice no one would have ever asked of either of them, no matter what was "owed." The Transfer was experimental and pretty much something no cultivator would even attempt. That's what made this choice so risky and so hard to account for.

Neither had any real way to weight the risks and consequences of this situation, and by never talking about it even during a tearful argument, we got canon events. (I've seen people talk about how Wei Wuxian's circumstances meant he had very little else to choose but survival, but this is true for Jiang Cheng too.)

And really. They both tried so hard to survive. And yet, when faced with terrible choices, they chose to protect each other. Putting their cultivation on the line to save each other's lives is not something anyone would normally do. Duty could have been a factor, but in my opinion, it wouldn't have taken Wei Wuxian that far. It wasn't even a factor in Jiang Cheng's.

And I think this is why people feel so put off by Wei Wuxian claiming it was done out of duty to the Yunmeng Jiang family. But it doesn't start with him. Their entire confrontation starts out with Jiang Cheng questioning what the sect meant to Wei Wuxian, if everything they gave him (everything they were to him) was worth nothing. This is almost entirely a projection of what Jiang Cheng asks when he cries. What he really feels is hidden in questions about martial duty.

"Why did you not tell me?"

For all his words, it was less about their sect and so much more about Jiang Cheng feeling like he was worth nothing to Wei Wuxian.

We know this. But Wei Wuxian doesn't.

I didn't notice it immediately, but Wei Wuxian's whole thing is deflection. It's about telling small truths and laughing things off or forcing himself to forget entirely. By the end of their confrontation, he does it again by asking Jiang Cheng to let it stay in the past, now that it's out there, but this does nothing to reduce the tension. It just deflects it again.

I think Wei Wuxian's response to Jiang Cheng's questions was to focus on what he thought was most important. Duty, debt to the Yunmeng Jiang. It was a deflection from what was really wrong. He didn't want to address his own complicated feeling, much less try to untangle whether Jiang Cheng hates him or loves him, so he doesn't.

Whatever broke between them wasn't about duty of any kind. It was about sacrifice, and the pain of carrying its burden alone. It was about loving someone enough to do something so drastic and never being able to say it.

Jiang Cheng hearing that the transfer was out of duty hurts him deeply, because he doesn't know that Wei Wuxian loves him. But Wei Wuxian doesn't know that's what Jiang Cheng is looking for. He hears the first part of their confrontation and responds to that.

Not, "Why did you never tell me?" But 'Did the Yunmeng Jiang mean nothing to you?'

Those are two different questions.

Wei Wuxian is trying to tell Jiang Cheng that it did mean something. That Lotus Pier's destruction, the Jiang parents and Yanli's deaths mattered to him. He's trying to release Jiang Cheng's burden without realizing that, by saying it had nothing to do with him, he's saying that Jiang Cheng didn't matter enough.

This is not how Wei Wuxian feels, we know this. But, again, Jiang Cheng doesn't.

They're talking right past each other, and because of all their other issues, they not only don't realize it, but might never be able to truly address it. They're so used to keeping their feelings hidden from each other that they can't even see how much they, as individuals, matter to each other.

TL;DR.

Both of them love each other and couldn't say it because of their complicated. Well, everything. Instead, their misconceptions cause them both to focus on the wrong things at the wrong time. By asking about what the Yunmeng Jiang meant to Wei Wuxian, it hides what Jiang Cheng really wants to know: if it was done out of love and protectiveness as his sacrifice had been. By focusing on this deflection, Wei Wuxian hides his own feelings by placing duty to the Jiang sect in highest importance. He gives the answer that he thinks Jiang Cheng wants to hear.

So, no, I don't think Wei Wuxian wasn't telling the truth (or at least not the full truth) either.

In the end, this is not what either of them actually wanted from the confrontation and does very little to address their actual emotional issues. All it really does is open the door for something to change in the future.

#asks #mdzs #wei wuixan #jiang cheng #golden core reveal #meta #my post #mine.txt

[captainkirkk]

✩ WEEKLY FIC ROUND-UP ✩

All the fics I’ve read and really enjoyed in the past week-ish. Reminder: This list features any and all ratings and themes. Please look at tags and warnings on ao3 before reading.

Merlin

The Walls of Camelot by spqr

"Camelot will fall tomorrow,” Arthur says, on the first day of the eighth month of the siege.

DC

IRIS Log #1548 by deadchannelradio

Disclaimer From Your Friendly Neighborhood Oracle:

The following is a transcript of Patrol Communications Audio written by state of the art transcription technology, IRIS (Interpretation of Recorded Intelligence Software). IRIS was created to provide easily searchable records, automatically, and eliminate the need to transcribe each patrol audio log manually. That being said, IRIS is still experimental, and may not always be entirely accurate. - (01:25) Red Hood: (Mild static) (Out of breath, slurred) You motherfuckers. Put some fuckin-

(01:25) Batman: (Shaking) Red Hood-

(01:25) Red Hood: Shut up. Put some fucking respect. On my name. Start fucking copying me. I just got thrown fucking. Um. 40 feet. Into a fucking uh. What's it. Ditch. I'm still fucking conscious.

(01:25) Batman: Red Hood, do not move, we're en route-

(01:25) Red Hood: What'll I win if I stand up.

(01:25) Batman: (Loud) Do not stand up.

we shall be free; we shall find peace by mediant

Clark has accepted what it means to be Lex's prisoner - the pain of the Green, the experiments, the hands on it. The long years buried in its containment cell, let out only to act as Lex's weapon, as Lex's tool. It had fought back at first, but years have ground it down and away to almost nothing.

Then Lex hands it a baby. And Clark realizes that while it may have hurt humans, and lied about what it is, and it may deserve to be locked away - Kon deserves to be free.

Untamed

The Absolutely True Story of the Yiling Patriarch: A Manifesto in Many Parts by aubreyli (+ podfic)

Wei Wuxian’s hand jolts, spilling a drop of wine onto the tabletop. “Love?” he croaks, then clears his throat and tries again. “Lan Zh— uh, Hanguang-jun, in love?”

“Have you not heard the story?” the other young woman asks, looking pitying. “You must, it is a truly heartrending tale of star-crossed romance and mutual pining — go to any storyhouse in town, everyone has been requesting a reading of this book.”

“There’s a book?” Wei Wuxian says blankly.

-- In which the junior disciples (namely, Lan Jingyi, Ouyang Zizhen, and a reluctant Lan Sizhui) turn to RPF in an attempt to rehabilitate Wei Wuxian's reputation so that he and Hanguang-jun can get together and get married and live happily ever after. It's... surprisingly effective.

Clone Wars

patron saint by spqr (+ podfic)

Funerary practices? Master Ti writes back. I’m not sure what you mean, Master Kenobi. Used biomass is the property of Kamino and thus is recycled into the cloning process.

So that’s how the revolution begins—with dead brothers, but not the way you might expect.

Miraculous Ladybug

drowning (in plain sight) by buggachat

Everybody had expected Monarch's defeat to be a moment of triumph. Nobody had expected Gabriel Agreste, unmasked and mind frayed from continual abuse of the miraculous, crying out to all who would listen and making Paris certain of one thing:

His son, Adrien Agreste, is one of his sentimonsters.

And now he's missing.

Nobody can find him— not even the superheroes, and not even his closest friends. But Marinette, Nino, and Alya aren't ones to give up so easily. They'll find him, no matter what it takes.

(But, geez, would it kill Chat Noir to lend a hand?)

#happy saturday!! #i hope everything is having a better weekend than me #i'm sick :(( #my posts #weekly fic round up #fic recs #merlin recs #untamed recs #dc recs #sw recs #ml recs

[oneeyedoctogod]

Gods this fandom sometimes, I swear. I'm sorry I read two deeply bad takes back to back, and I have to rant. I'm sure others have said it better than I, but really. Come on. I actually have to wonder if people who talk about the extras actually read them because...

Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji didn't leave the cultivation world in canon. They elope, and then they come back. The fact they're not involved in the bigger politics is... pretty much to be expected, but they very much do participate in the day to day lives of the Lan sect. They go where the chaos is to night hunt, they teach, Lan Wangji comforts his brother in his seclusion, and Wei Wuxian meets some new Lan disciples.

As for the cottage fantasy... Again, I honestly have to wonder if the people talking about it actually read the extra it's in? Because it's just that. A fantasy. A dream. It's basically a representation of Wei Wuxian's wants for a domestic life, something he definitely has now! He's always been characterised as someone who wants to help others and who loves cultivation. Why would you think the dream is to be taken literally?

And the idea that Wei Wuxian has 'several important relationships just floating there', that he's not dealing with... Where? Which ones? He teaches the juniors and grows closer to Jin Ling. He doesn't exactly interact with Lan Xichen, but he asks after him. He meets Mianmian again and wishes her well. He asks after Wen Ning after Lan Sizhui comes back then has some father-son bonding moments with him!

Nie Huaisang and Wei Wucian aren't close. They were friendly once, but they didn't ever meet after the lectures. I don't see how that qualifies as an "important" relationship, especially with Nie Huaisang never openly admitting to his part in Wei Wuxian's resurrection. But even then, Wei wuxian says he'll be keeping a close eye on him, so one can imagine they meet again at some point.

As for Jiang Cheng... what more do you want Wei Wuxian to do exactly? Even if you want a reconciliation, why can't Jiang Cjeng be he one to actually grow up and do the work for once? He's the one who never apologized. He's the one who is still openly hostile in the extras. If Wei Wuxian wants to move on and not interact with him, he's well within his right to do that, given how Jiang Cheng treated him. Hell, he's more generous than most since he encourages Jin Ling to talk to Jiang Cheng. If I'd been treated by someone like Jiang Cheng treated Wei Wuxian and saw him hit our nephew several times, I certainly wouldn't encourage them to meet. (But that's Wei Wuxian for you, the moral ideal and better than all of us.)

Anyway, I really don't understand why people insist on making Wangxian have a sadder ending than the one they actually did. It's a HEA for them, sorry guys. And yeah, maybe Wei wuxian has some trauma to work on... but the whole point of the character is that he doesn't let his trauma define him. That he wants to forgives, forgets and moves on.

(Also, just because he doesn't have a breakdown or the cultivation equivalent of therapy in the extra doesn't mean he's not working on them? He finally is at peace, with a solid support network. Maybe he does talk about his past hurts with Lan Wangji - Lan Wangji certai ly knows when to comfort him when he needs it. But the narrative point of the extras is to show they're moving on from the past! And you know what, sometimes the beat thing to do to heal is to do just that. They're living their best lives, deal with it.)

And finally... shit did you really read the whole book and come to the conclusion Wei Wuxian should have 'learned to accept help'? Who the fuck offered help? Who did he refuse?

(Don't say Lan Wangji. 1) I love him, but "Come back to Gusu" is very much not an obvious offer to help, and when Wei Wuxian understandably misunderstands him, he never manages to correct it.

And 2) once Wei Wuxian tells him explicitly he's not leaving the Wen remnants behind, Lan Wangji understands and backs off. He approves! I'm sure he'd do more if he could, but just like Jiang Yanli, he can't!)

Jiang Cheng literally said, 'No one will help you, no one is on your side' (and then made sure that was true by saying Wei Wuxian was the enemy of the cultivation world). Jin Zixuan chose to ask the one who was ambushed to disarm rather than the 300 cultivators attacking him and lunged at him when Wei Wuxian refused to comply (because he'd be killed if he did!!). How is that help?

Who else tried to help? Whose help did Wei Wuxian reject?

Wei Wuxian was presented with a series of bad choices and took the best he could, the ones aligned with his principles, accepting he'd have to face consequences at some point but also knowing it was still worth it. He's not the one who failed or made a fatal mistake or betrayed his word.

Rant over. Sorry about that.

#MDZS #Wangxian #Wei Wuxian #I am so sorry but those two posts pissed me off #I dont want to fall into the easy argument lf 'you lack reading comprehension' but... #seriously all of that is EXPLICITLY SAID in the text #this is not interpretation!

[symphonyofsilence]

While making this poll I noticed that actually Wangxian are the subplot to the 3Zun story. The whole plot happened because of Nie Huaisang's 10 years old revenge plot against Jin Guangyao. Which happened because of the whole huge 3Zun drama.

Jin Guangyao was the one who killed the villain of the past time of the story and won the war. He was the one who went from being a poor outcast to the Xiandu.

The climax of the story is The Guanyin Temple. In the Guanyin Temple the main characters are Jin Guangyao, Lan Xichen and Nie Huaisang.

Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji are... kinda there. Flirting and hugging each other.

In fact If you erase Lan Wangji very little of the plot will change.(I mean the book is in the romance genre so yeah, in that way it will definitely change drastically. But I'm talking about in- universe changes). Even in his own romance plot, he didn't have a very active role since LXC was the one who screamed at WWX about LWJ's love for him.

#mdzs #mo dao zu shi #the untamed #cql #chen qing ling #jin guangyao #meng yao #nie mingjue #lan xichen #lan huan #3zun #wangxian #lan wangji #lan zhan #wei wuxian #wei ying #nie huaisang #my two cents

[incorrectly-quoting-mxtx]

Fic Prompt

Au where Hua Cheng, Luo Binghe, and Wei Wuxian were all street kids together and were friends. Luo Binghe was the oldest and kind of the leader of the group and Hua Cheng was the youngest.

As their stories start, however, they all get separated.

Later on, past the canon of all three books, they all run into each other again.

#fic prompt #mdzs #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #mo dao zu shi #svsss #scum villian’s self saving system #wei wuxian #luo binghe #tgcf #heaven official's blessing #hua cheng #give me the demon trio being siblings #demon trio