#sorry yanli

[spottedgardeneelstan]

normal jiang brother activities <3

#mdzs #jiang cheng #wei wuxian #the untamed #jiang siblings #minus yanli #sorry yanli #please note that wwx’s face is not shown in its entirety after the first panel! #that is because i think that their time in gusu lan was one of the last times in the novel that jc knows how to feel about wwx! #my opinion of course #also the ‘i can’t go with you’??????? i’m going to collapse #so symbolic of their estrangement #and wwx’s departure from the cultivation world #anyway i had a lot a wwx feels while drawing this #also i never want to look at it again ever #mdzs spoilers

[yourcrumblingsaikiisnotmyproblem]

here's a few reminders for the mxtx fandom

1. Wei Wuxian had 2 older sister figures in his life and they both died trying to save him and in the end failed since he died anyway. (RIP Wen Qing and Jiang Yanli)

2. Mu Qing only ever had his mom other than XL and FX and she died a mortal death. We don't know anything about FX's mortal family.

3. Wen Ning was experimented on for 13 years in captivity after seeing his sister's ashes and blames himself still for wwx's downfall

4. He Xuan cannot leave the world even after his revenge to Shi Wudu and is purposeless for all of his immortal life.

5. Jin Ling will never taste her mom's handmade favourite soup.

6. Canon Feng Xin and Mu Qing do not know what happened at the temple to Xie Lian.

7. Jiang Cheng will probably never be good enough in his own eyes (until he has like grand-nephews or something)

8. Shi Qingxuan will (probably) die a mortal death.

9. Some of Nie Huaisang's last words to Nie Mingjue were that he never wanted to be a clan leader.

10. XL and WWX both tried to protect a certain demographic that got wiped out anyway and made them public enemies and reason for their eventual downfall making it essentially ineffective.

11. All the calamities are actually gods who could or did ascend heaven.

12. Xiao Xingchen killed himself after finding out he wiped out villages full of innocent people and his own best friend who he gave up his eyes for. And realising his pursuit of helping the world was worthless.

#im sorry guys #i just couldnt get it out of my head #please dont come at me #mxtx #mxtx tgcf #mxtx mdzs #mdzs #tgcf #hualian #wangxian #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #jiang yanli #wen qing #wen ning #lan zhan #nie huaisang #nie mingjue #hua cheng #xie lian #mu qing #feng xin #shi qingxuan #he xuan #xiao xingchen #mo dao zu shi #tian guan ci fu #the grandmaster of demonic cultivation #heaven official's blessing #founder of diabolism

[sepia-mahogany]

Jiang Yanli: *dies saving Wei Wuxian* at least A-Xian will liv- Jiang Cheng: *kills him in her name* Jiang Yanli:

#mdzs #im sorry #jiang yanli #jiang cheng #wei wuxian #mdzs meme #jiang yanli meme #shes so done #yunmeng siblings #lol

[notarakhae]

#mdzs #mdzs fanart #mo dao zu shi #mxtx #wei wuixan #wei ying #jiang yanli #jiang cheng #jiang wanyin #i love them so much #im cryinnnnggg #sorry for my handwriting

[barawrah]

even more modern au whump i think for a while after (vague gesture) they would fall asleep clinging to each other only after exhausting themselves from crying

full ^_^) sorry for putting them through the horrors all over again im observing them under a microscope a little bit just to see ^_^👍

#i think i would like to press down on them like a bug . until they cry #not in a horriblemean way just because jc is me and im him and well i cant separate motherson so jl is coming along for the ride #this is my alternate to therapy i dont know if its working #is that wwxs hair band in jcs hair we will never know #did yanli get jc that blanket we will Never know #sorry jl for dragging u into this i promise happier times await (maybe) #i fix canon by making it worse (everyone dies and everyone stays dead) #Maybe . i havent decided on wwx situation hes in a coma now #ok thats it #art tag #mdzs #jiang cheng #jin ling #jin ling and his jiujiu #this au needs a tag

[add1ctedt0you]

Jiang YanLi, “I’m… I’m here to tell you…”

To tell him what?

That it’s fine?

That I don’t hate you?

That everything is fine?

That I don’t blame you for have killed Jin ZiXuan?

It was impossible.

But she couldn’t say anything that was the opposite either.

[...]

Suddenly Jiang Yanli's eyes opened wide. Her hands conjured up an explosive current of strength from nowhere and pushed Wei Wuxian hard!

Wei Wuxian was pushed onto the ground again by force. The next time he looked up, he saw the gleaming blade of a sword pierce through her throat.

The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, Chapter 78

"With his left hand, he [Jin Guangyao] whipped out another string and attacked Wei Wuxian! Jiang Cheng's pupils shrank to become just a point. With a flip of his wrist, he turned Zidian's direction to defend against the guqing strings."

The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, Chapter 101

"You did all the best things, and yet every time you do the worst ones, it's involuntary! Forced! With some unspeakable grievances! Grievances?! You told me nothing, you played me for a fool!! [...] Can I not hate you?! Why is it that now it's like I am supposed to have wronged you?!"

The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, Chapter 102

#I never see this kind of thing explore in fics but #I think it's kind of (???) the yunmeng sibs arc #'we love you but you hurt us in irreparable ways. You didn't do it intentionally but you did anyway. What should we do with our love?' #That's imo what jc's speech is about #*The yunmeng sibs bleeding from a stab wound they took for wwx*: what should we do with our love after all you did to us? #*mgifs #Like. They throw themselves between wwx and the danger. And they think/say these things... Because the love is true but the hurt is true to #jiang cheng #jiang yanli #Tbh so sorry for the quality of these gifs

[littlesmartart]

HANDS DIRTY | DELTA RAE

I've been thinking about this song + JGY for a long time ("I get my hands dirty, I show up so early, they show me no mercy, so I just keep working" hello???? hello??????), and I would like to personally thank ZZJ for his wonderful face and brilliant acting 🙏

#jin guangyao #making this video truly made me appreciate how much on-screen abuse and violence we see inflicted on JGY 😬 #also godddd!!! the scene with Madam Jin yelling at JGY at phoenix mountain!!! #JGY doing this quick little panicked look around when she's done talking to see if anyone is going to do anything #and the pan we get of Zixun + Zixuan + Yanli + freakin Sect Leader Yao #and even XICHEN. all just standing there like :T awkward. #then it cuts back to JGY's devastated little face as he tries his best to carry on. probably fucking mortified that this is public #and both relieved yet slightly upset that no one tried to defend him over something that everyone knew was not his fault #UUGHHHHH #sorry I'm done now #the untamed

[piosplayhouse]

therapist, mother, maid, nymph then a virgin, nurse and a servant

#side profiles are my least favorite thing to draw ever but if i dont practice how will i get better or whatever #sorry jyl l #you deserve better but this is all i have i fear #jyl #jiang yanli #mdzs #my art

[least-carpet]

Hiiii, if it's not too much, can you describe the biggest differences between the live action characters and the novel characters in MDZS? They are a lot, so I will love even the difference between few of them! I haven't seen the live action and I don't know if I will ever, but I am curious, considering all the meta. Anyway, thank you in general, even if you don't answer!

Hello anon! This has been in the inbox forever because there are soooo many ways to answer this! However, let me be transparent that I've watched maybe like 1/10 of CQL. Among other obstacles, I simply do not care that much about Lan Wangji and he's always there (even though Wang Yibo is giving it his all... it's not his fault I'm a hater...). Chewing through a book with Ms. Mxtx's commentary was just more enjoyable to me, and even then, to be honest, I still liked SVSSS better. (I just love Shen Yuan/Shen Qingqiu so much. That dude is wild.)

Still, the live action definitely affected how I understood certain characters (...primarily Nie Huaisang) and made me interested in relationships that I didn't pay any attention to in the novel. (I freely admit that the nieyao brainrot is 100% CQL's fault.) Also I found Wang Zhuocheng's Jiang Cheng very cute and loveable. It definitely contributed to my Jiang Cheng Brain Disease.

LISTEN. HE HAS BIG SAD EYES AND THE MEANEST SNEER AND HE MIGHT BURST INTO TEARS AT ANY TIME. HE IS A BABY. A baby who could kill you with his terrifying lightning whip! But a baby nonetheless, to me.

So if you want someone with a real and knowledgeable opinion on the live action, I'm probably not the right person for that! However, here's one difference that changed a bunch of stuff about the characters that I found compelling in the novel: the second flautist.

CQL adds Su She as a second flautist doing unorthodox cultivation in a couple of different places, including at Qiongqi Path, where he seizes control of Wen Ning and is therefore responsible for Jin Zixuan's death. Removing the responsibility for Jin Zixuan's death from Wei Wuxian creates a bunch of cascading character and relationship implications that I don't love.

Firstly, all of the people who cautioned Wei Wuxian against his unorthodox cultivation are now... wrong. If he never lost control, then actually his assessment that he could maintain control wasn't overconfidence, it was just true, and he was persecuted because the Jin needed a scapegoat and wanted the Yin Tiger Tally, not because his cultivation path actually involved significant risks and drawbacks. (To be fair, the Jins actively exploited those drawbacks, the public perception of his cultivation, and Wei Wuxian's failure to manage his reputation. But it matters whether the risks exist or are just made up.)

Secondly, removing his responsibility for Jin Zixuan's death transforms both Wei Wuxian's character and how we understand his relationships with Jiang Yanli, Jiang Cheng, and Jin Ling. Because, in the novel, he kills Jin Zixuan under duress but also after a lifetime of conflict with him. Like, he hates the dude, he doesn't think he's worthy of Jiang Yanli, and he's not willing to examine his hatred and resentment even though Jiang Yanli loves Jin Zixuan and wants to marry him, even after she marries him and has a child with him. (I would argue that a lot of the resentment is because of the eventual marriage; by marrying Jiang Yanli, Jin Zixuan becomes legally recognized family to the Jiang siblings, while Wei Wuxian's relationship with them has no social recognition; I think Wei Wuxian is deeply threatened by that but can't articulate it.) It's a huge failure! Like, dude, you loved someone and you killed that person's beloved spouse. That points to a certain degree of repressed jealousy, possessiveness, longing, arrogance, the list goes on... I am so compelled by that conflict, and the adaptation just erases it.

This also affects how we read Jin Ling's relationship with Wei Wuxian. In one scenario, a teenage Jin Ling is (eventually, minus one little stab) ending the cycle of violence by not seeking vengeance for his father's murder. In the other, it was actually someone associated with Jin Ling's paternal family that killed his father, and he's maybe just... coming to terms with that? One of these scenarios is so much richer and more interesting.

How it affects the relationship between Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian is a little more subtle. It locates the responsibility for a lot of the harm done to the Jiang siblings with the Jin sect, not with Wei Wuxian, removing some of Wei Wuxian's culpability in the devolution of his relationship with Jiang Cheng. If Wei Wuxian isn't guilty of wronging the Jiang family (and instead is also a victim of the Jin sect), then all of Jiang Cheng's rage and betrayal was misdirected. They were both tricked. In some ways, maybe that's easier to patch up after canon? (I wonder if this is why many CQL yunmeng shuangjie reconciliation fics have Jiang Cheng apologize to Wei Wuxian, but not the other way around?) But it's so much less interesting to me!

Finally, it removes Wei Wuxian's tragic flaw! Dude is legitimately a genius but he's got hubris coming out of his ears and it fucks him up big time! This is classic stuff. Please stop flattening my boy!!

#alas I am outed as a fake CQL fan after all #sorry y'all #I love all the edits though. I am stuffing them into my horrible little mouth every day #I'm the worst kind of fake CQL fan because my brain has fully mashed some of the series I've seen together with the novel events #FINALLY I JUST LOVE... CQL NIEYAO... YUM YUM YUM... THEY ARE CRAZY TOGETHER!! #THEY BOTH GET SOOO UPSET OVER THE BREAKUP!! #wen yao in nmj's memories... the brAIDS UNDER THE HAT #also qin su had .5 seconds of screen time and I fell in love with her #slap your husband qin su!! go apeshit!! you deserve it girl!! she survived that stab in my heart 🥲 #anyway maybe one day I'll watch the whole thing. unfortunately I am not very compelled by canon wangxian #I also don't know how I ended up here. the jiang cheng brain disease got me good #wei wuxian #jin zixuan #jiang yanli #jiang cheng #jin ling #qin su #yunmeng shuangjie #yunmeng trio #xuanli #nieyao #mdzs + #anon asks #asks #least-carpet thoughts

[tbgkaru-woh]

Smash or Pass 

#the untamed #mo dao zu shi #mdzs #wei wuxian #nie huaisang #jin zixuan #sangxuan #technically? #chengxuan #eventually :') #where no one actually genuinely likes the one who has all the status to his name #and is too afraid to show his more genuine self #but it's easy to do so when no one dares to see it #sorry i just really like zixuan #he's very underrated and often glossed over #yanli ornament #my art

[whumpbby]

When you realise that Wen Qing has a character profile matching JC 99%, the problems they face are reflections of each other, and the decisions they make are the same (she helped them, he let her go, both desperately searched for their brothers, both put their community/family first and personal wants second, both were trapped in their roles, both tried to save their people, but weren't given a chance to choose due to the external circumstances, both are angry about it and have short temper, both call out Wwx's bullshit when they see it) and the only reason she gets to be the 'slay queen' while JC is demonised is that she died in a good moment.

I'll bet you anything that, had she survived the siege and lived these 13 years, alone and angry and hardened, she'd not enjoy the same fandom trearment. Angry women never do.

#im sorry to say that but yanli is a floormat no matter how lovely she is #amd that's why she gets canonised #wen qing would be eaten alive #fandom only loves broken people when they're nice about it #wen qing #jiang cheng

[frodo-of-the-nine-fingers]

Quit trying to hold on so tight. I'm gone. Long gone.

-twin peaks fire walk with me

#mdzs #the untamed #nie mingjue #jiang cheng #nie huaisang #jiang yanli #wei wuxian #lan xichen #jin guangyao #if i could have squeezed wq in here i would have but i simply did not have the screencaps nor a long enough quote but uhhh yeah #im gone!!! long gone!!!! dead from the start even!!!!! #mine #anyways sorry for this

[evakant]

people’s favorite the untamed scenes  —  for @mikkeneko

jiang yanli's grief

#theuntamededit #mdzsedit #cqledit #the untamed #mdzs #jiang yanli #jiang cheng #wei wuxian #yunmeng siblings #xuan lu #fdstuff #fragifs #favcql #requests. #i went back and forth between this layout and a good old two-column set but i just know you guys prefer your gifs stacked so #flashing gifs / #long post / #god this really came out super long i'm sorry lmao #rs: never be parted #ish #tv shows

[wangxian-the-zhijis]

Lan Zhan every single time he gets the chance:

Lan Zhan when Jiang Yanli has to die:

//Error 404: character not found// Therefore, the events:

#dont tell me that he’s faraway and stuff and couldnt reach wei ying #bro. lan zhan literally flies miles just to block the attacks for wei ying #also sorry if you think im making fun of yanli’s death #because im not #im calling out to the directors because yanli’s death was poorly done #instead of just dashing straight to yanli jc and wwx literally had the time to shout at each other first #and lan zhan was there #they angled the camera to him while showing that yanli was in danger #i mean i know yanli’s not his responsibility #but #we’ve seen how protective he was of wei ying already so it’s weird that he missed that one #wei ying was everyone’s target so lan zhan shudve kept an eye on him A LOT MORE #so yeah #for the plot #lan zhan wasnt there. #the untamed #cql #wei wuxian #wei ying #lan wangji #lan zhan #jiang yanli

[canes-venatici200]

Prompt: Modern Setting

After running into Wei Wuxian after 13 years without seeing him; Jiang Yanli divorces her husband.

Just seeing the love between Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji after spending many afternoons with them made Jiang Yanli’s desire to find love and a career awaken. She also wants to be happy and being with Jin Zixuan who despises her because their families arranged the marriage wasn’t the best for her and her son.

Jin Ling who has seen his mother suffer in silence at home and with the Jin’s and Jiang’s with cutting remarks, silences and nasty rumors supports his mom and agrees to leave with her after the divorce.

After agreeing to live with Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji when the divorce finalized. Jiang Yanli opens her own restaurant with her own money and that’s where she meets Lan Xichen, Lan Wangji’s brother.

#sorry I had to do this #I mean Jin Zixuan changed his mind about her #but what about if he didn’t #Jiang Yanli would have been the most to suffer. #prompt or summary #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #grandmaster of demonic cultivation

[yunmeng-jiang]

Thing that kind of frustrates me about mdzs modern AUs, as someone with chronic illness: Jiang Yanli (pretty much always) and Wen Ning (usually) are written as totally healthy. In canon, Yanli almost passes out from the exertion of... throwing a flower (mdzs), and Wen Ning needs to spend time in bed recovering after a night hunt (cql, I'm not sure about mdzs) because his soul got damaged when he was a kid. They're both sickly, with weak cultivation and much less physical stamina that other characters. But in modern AUs, Yanli is bustling around the house with a kid balanced on her hip, making food for everyone with a smile, and Wen Ning is generally quiet and socially anxious but still active and up for every wacky escapade that might be happening. I'm not saying every fic has to focus on their health issues, but it would be nice to have it mentioned once in a while. Maybe Jin Zixuan is taking care of the baby because Yanli is too exhausted to get out of bed, or maybe she has to duck out of a party early because she feels a migraine coming on. Maybe Wen Ning keeps painkillers and an inhaler in his backpack because he needs them so often, maybe he has to check his blood sugar before deciding whether he wants dessert because he's diabetic - just some little thing like that.

#mdzs #cql #the untamed #jiang yanli #wen ning #if you diagnose wwx with adhd and make him afraid of dogs and have lwj be officially autistic and wq a doctor/in med school #and nhs some kind of artist and my/jgy anxious to please his asshole rich dad and jc with an inferiority complex #but jyl and wn have no health problems at all or at least none that affect their daily lives #then you're wrong and annoying and i don't want to read your fic. sorry #maybe it's petty but i want accurate characterization and i also want to see myself in characters sometimes. idk #interestingly enough i do see their health conditions touched on a good bit in fics set in the original setting #i wonder why that is