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enamoured-x · 2 years
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I just truly don’t understand how ppl can say 3 sisters x 3 brothers is predictable and cliche. Not to mention it’s apparently boring. And how is everyone ending up with their damn mate not predictable and cliche?? Bc it is. Elain rejecting the mating bond is far from boring… we’ve never seen that, it’s something different. It’s not boring, it’s new and exciting and let’s us see a different side to mating bonds.
And 2 brothers x 2 sisters is not cliche apparently? Like it’s the same thing.
Maybe if y’all stopped buying into couples that aren’t canon and have no romantic interaction then you’d see that a bond rejection would be extremely interesting and something refreshingly new than what we’re used to.
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nikito0x · 10 days
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RadioApple AU - Forget me not
I am too lazy to write a whole fic of it, but I can't get this plot bunny out of my head so here we go:
This is so AU it will never be canon (obviously) but it's ridiculous enough to be believable.
To start off: We all know the age old story of Lucifer's fall and the way he and Lilith got together. Right? Well forget all about it. In this AU it's all a lie. Let me explain.
The first humans to have ever been created were Alastor and Lilith. They were acquaintances and simply live peacefully in the Garden of Eden for a while. There is nothing romantic between them.
Lucifer gets assigned to watch over them and at some point witnesses Alastor interacting with some of his creations. So he decides to ask him about his opinion of them.
They start a conversation about Lucifer's other, weirder, creations. Some of which were rejected by the elder angels.
Alastor, as someone who gets easily bored, finds Lucifer's ideas amusing and intriguing. So they become friends, partially thanks to Alastor's pure fascination with Lucifer's mind, and partially thanks to Lucifer having finally found someone who would listen to his ideas and even like them. Not to mention add some of their own to his to create something even greater.
So they become friends. Lucifer starts visiting Alastor more and more often as time passes.
Alastor witnesses how Lucifer isn't exactly treated great by his siblings a lot of the time and tries to soothe the angel or distract him with a new invention that may never be allowed to be created, but would be fun to think about anyway.
Lucifer gets isolated from his siblings because of his "shortcomings" and at some point ends up in a situation where he has to ask for Alastor's help with preening his wings as no one else would.
Alastor notices Lucifer being uncomfortable and asks about it. Lucifer tries to deflect and ignore the problem but Alastor convinces him to trust him with whatever issue he has. And so - wing grooming happens.
Insert typical Wing Fic tropes here.
This becomes a regular occurrence.
Meanwhile Lilith is just chilling and exploring the garden. Nothing much to see here 👀
Michael is going to be sort of a villain in here.
Michael sees the bond forming between his brother and this inferior creature his father has created and disapproves of it. So he decides he will have to seperate them for the good of everybody.
Michael goes to Lilith and convinces her to help him with that task. Lilith would try talking to Alastor and Michael would talk to Lucifer.
Lilith is confused and uncertain about that. She tries asking questions but he rebuffs her and simply reassures her that it's all for the greater good.
In the end Lilith just asks something like: "What if I can't? What if I don't succeed?" And Michael implies that her existence is at stake if this doesn't work.
Remember: Alastor and Lilith are the first ever humans. They haven't eaten the fruit and know very little of the world, only what they've been told and found out for themselves. And since they have committed no sin yet, they are basically immortal as long as they don't injure themselves to a point of no return. And so they don't know pain like a regular human does.
Lilith becomes fearful of Michael's warning and tries explaining to Alastor the importance of not associating with Lucifer anymore. Alastor is confused and doesn't understand her worry, so he doesn't listen. Lucifer is too much fun for him to just abandon him like that. Besides, he's started to care some for the angel. He won't just do something without a good reason for it.
Alastor, in this sense, knows more than Lilith since he's been in contact with Lucifer (who's been explaining things to him) for a while now. Alastor would know more of the world than Lilith and wouldn't just make a rash decision to follow any order he is given like she does.
Michael also fails in convincing Lucifer that Alastor isn't worth his time. The conversation does rather the opposite of what he wanted, as Lucifer is reminded of all the things Michael and the other angels didn't do for him, that Alastor did in their stead.
Alastor and Lucifer talk about it and simply decide to ignore them and continue as they have.
At some point Michael gets frustrated and gives Lilith an ultimatum. Get this done by the end of the week or God will be informed.
"Remember, your existence might be at stake." And so Lilith panics.
Nearing the end of the week, Michael becomes impatient and introduces Lilith to something no human at that point has ever experienced. Pain.
He cuts her hand with an angelic weapon to prove to her what she could feel (if not a 100 times worse) if she doesn't comply. The cut is shallow, barely there and Michael heals it afterwards, but Lilith has never experienced such a horrible thing before. This was pain? And it can be a lot worse?? No, she has to separate Lucifer and Alastor at any cost.
Michael stays in the shadows and observes, satisfied.
Lilith, out of desperation, reaches the conclusion that it would be better for Alastor to get hurt than her, since he is the one who doesn't wish to listen to God's will. And so, in a frantic state of panic, Lilith attacks him.
She doesn't really know what would happen if she hits him hard enough with a rock or sth, since neither of them have ever truly witnessed death at that point; so she tries hurting him to show him the consequences of his actions if he doesn't listen to her.
Alastor ends up accidentally killing her in self defense. Alastor pushes Lilith away but as she rolls away from him she hits her head on a rock and dies that way.
Alastor explains everything to Lucifer and Lucifer goes to find Michael because this situation stinks of his interference.
God finds out about the situation and sends both Lilith and Alastor's souls to Hell.
Lilith starts hating Alastor and Lucifer from then on. So when she and Alastor meet in Hell, she screams at him that if he'd just listened to her, they wouldn't be in this situation. He tries reasoning with her, even as much as he's angry with her, but she just storms off away from him.
The first residents of Hell have been added.
Alastor still gets his deer like characteristics as he spent a lot of time in their presence at the Garden of Eden.
Meanwhile, Lucifer finds out where Alastor has ended up and tries to convince God to change his mind. He doesn't.
So he makes a plan. The new humans have been created. They're supposed to be better than the last ones. Lucifer tries to prove God wrong by getting Adam and Eve in trouble. He tries to prove that just sending every human who has made a mistake in Hell without a chance to redeem themselves gets you nowhere. But his plan doesn't work the way he wished, as Adam and Eve are turned mortal and Lucifer gets sent to Hell as well.
Michael is the last person Lucifer sees as he falls, wings cut off, betrayed and in pain.
Alastor finds him and helps him heal mentally and physically. They end up actually getting together there and they are the most disgustingly adorable couple ever.
They build Hell up and create Pentagram City. They're happy and the people of Hell respect them and appreciate their presence.
Lilith's POV meanwhile: she starts asking questions like: Okay but what if nothing bad would have happened if Lucifer and Alastor stayed together? What if Michael lied to me? Well, he could still have hurt me (for his own agenda) when I was alone, since Alastor spent all of his time with Lucifer. And I don't have anyone else. Well, if I have to be miserable and alone, then I'll make sure they are as well. And I'll take Hell for my own in the meantime.
So now she hates all three of them. Yes, she's a victim but she chooses to deal with the anger and grief she has in a toxic way.
Charlie will still exist in this universe, but for now, she'll be a creation of Lucifer's who somehow combines his and Alastor's energies, and uses whatever powers of creation he has as an angel, to create her.
Even with the depressing circumstances of only being able to see the worst of humanity, Lucifer doesn't fall into depression like in canon, not to that extent at the very least; Alastor an Charlie would be there for him after all.
He ends up ruling hell well, having Alastor's help doing so as he is the more politically savvy between the two of them.
( Spark of Redemption: After being cast down, Lucifer could create Charlie as a symbol of hope. Her creation could combine his angelic power with Alastor's understanding of humanity, creating a being with the potential for good even in Hell. Balancing Darkness: Charlie could be born as a counterpoint to the growing darkness in Hell. Her presence, filled with Lucifer and Alastor's love, could offer a glimmer of light for lost souls.)
( Showcasing the respect Hell's residents have for Lucifer and Alastor can be done through small details: demons seeking their counsel, celebrations held in their honor, or acts of loyalty in times of trouble.)
The Morningstar family is as wholesome as it can get in a place like Hell.
Shared Responsibilities: Charlie, with her inherent compassion, focuses on rehabilitation efforts in Hell, while Alastor manages the day-to-day operations and Lucifer acts as the final authority figure. They respect each other's strengths and work together for the good of Hell.
After a few decades in hell, Lilith disappears. No one knows where she went. She's gone for a long while until she pops up again, more powerful than ever.
In reality, Lilith made a deal with Roo. It is in Roo's interest that Lilith uses her concerts to spread sin and rebellion in order to turn Hell into a domain of evilness to fuel her power. Roo in return gifts Lilith power, she becomes strong enough to affect most with her voice and words, even someone as powerful as Lucifer himself.
No one but the two of them are aware of this deal being made. The deal was made some time after hell establishes a proper society with its own system.
Lilith decides to build her power, by making deals with other demons for their souls, her deal with Roo enhances those deals and gives her a larger boost than it would have given her otherwise.
Lilith decides it's time to enact her revenge.
She targets Alastor, knowing that without him, Lucifer will crumble under the pressure like what happened in canon with his depression. This would cause Hell to go in chaos once their powerful leader seems to have lost any care for the souls in his domain. This would spread sin and rebellion in Hell even further.
Lilith holds Charlie hostage as she makes a deal with Alastor for both Lucifer and Charlie's safety. She uses her voice/songs to brainwash them into forgetting Alastor's very existence. She does the same to the whole of hell.
Instead, she replaces Alastor with herself in those memories and convinces everyone that she's been the one by Lucifer's side all along. For the safety of his loved ones, Alastor signs away his soul to her. Lilith forbids him from approaching Lucifer, and from telling him anything about the truth of what actually happened between the three of them (Lilith, Lucifer and Alastor).
In the meantime Alastor's powers are severely restricted and he is not allowed to make deals for other demons' souls in an attempt to increase his strength.
Lilith goes to Heaven, making sure that Roo's plans for the yearly exterminations are going well and that her hidden seeds of sin in Heaven continue to grow. Lilith is strong but not strong enough to defeat Lucifer in battle. Replacing his memories of someone with another wasn't easy, but was simple enough to trick the mind to do.
She knows she can't convince him to give her his crown, not now anyway. She is convinced she would rule Hell eventually. As Roo's powers from the spread sin and chaos grow, so would hers - a nice gift from Roo to her, as she's doing such a fine job on their deal. Lilith disappears for seven years.
After all that Alastor tries his best to regain any power he can. He looks for loopholes in his deal with Lilith and realizes that Lilith didn't forbid him from approaching Charlie, so once he feels he can be of help to her in any way, he would approach her.
Lilith didn't forbid him all interaction with Lucifer. Lucifer can still approach him himself and they can talk about other things that don't include the contents of Alastor's deal.
Alastor also figures out that Lilith had made a deal with someone powerful, he doesn't know who, but he knows she can't have gained abilities strong enough to manipulate an angel from just deals for others' souls.
Alastor is convinced, however, that given time and some reminders Lucifer will be able to break through Lilith's deception, as he is still more powerful than she is. (he is right).
For now Alastor has a new goal: Get stronger and get noticed by the king of Hell somehow. That's how he becomes an overlord.
Once radio was brought in hell, he makes it a part of his brand (as it is in canon);
That's how he meets Vox. Here is why they don't get along in this AU. For one, Vox is a clout chaser while Alastor does radio mainly for himself and his own enjoyment; and other such character differences that get in the way of them being truly close.
Alastor one day approaches Vox with an idea: bring others' memories to the screens of their TVs. Vox loves the idea, he imagines he could make a whole lot of profit by exploiting sinners' longing for home by bringing their memories of Earth to their screens.
The project is going well and Alastor finally decides to share his reasons for coming up with such an idea. He tells Vox that someone he loves was attacked by another with the ability to erase his loved one's memory of him. And he wants that person to remember him again.
Vox becomes angry with Alastor, since he has a crush on the Radio Demon and doesn't want to help him reunite with his love. Vox puts an end to that project. Vox and Alastor fight and Alastor manages to win even with the restriction placed over his powers.
Alastor was really powerful before it. Even now, restricted, he will be above average in regards to power even compared to the other overlords.
After that Alastor disappears for 7 years - like in canon. Maybe he's looking for alternative ways to get more powerful. Maybe he finds out that cannibals have just that little bit more power to them than regular demons and joins them as he has nothing left to lose. Maybe he's looking for other demons with the power to affect the mind. Maybe he tries making deals for favors instead of souls. Maybe he gathers allies to fight alongside him against Lilith for the future. Idk.
Alastor uses his weakened powers to subtly manipulate events around the developing hotel, guiding Charlie's path with anonymous warnings or nudges to ensure her safety.
After he comes back, the events in canon from season 1 proceed to happen as they originally did. The only difference being that Alastor cares about the residents of the hotel more than in canon.
He sort of becomes "the dad" of the group, before Lucifer shows up.
Lucifer and Alastor still have their fight in "Hell's greatest dad" with their song. The difference is that Alastor has different motivations for being angry with Lucifer. He intentionally calls Lucifer a dud in their song, because he is angry with how neglectful he had become to Charlie in the 7 years he was gone.
Canon events happen as they originally did until the end of season 1. Alastor still makes a deal with Charlie for a favor. The difference is that this time he plans to use it in a situation like this- example: Charlie's loyalty to her friends might threaten her safety and Alastor plans to use his favor to make her run if needed.
Alastor uses his fight with Adam to test his strength and see if he has managed to get any stronger despite the restrictions he is under. He still loses that fight. Even if some of his strength was returned it isn't anything significant. Alastor learns to use whatever little powers he has as efficiently as possible. Low effort maximum efficiency.
After that first season Alastor and Lucifer start getting along better. Lucifer realizes Alastor was angry with him for his absence in Charlie's life even when he doesn't know where that anger stems from and resolves himself to be better for her in the future. He tells Alastor so and they forgive each other for whatever wrongs were inflicted. They still tease each other often, but that's just a part of their dynamic.
Eventually Lucifer will start getting dreams of things that look like memories but can't be because he doesn't remember ever having done those things with Alastor. He ignores the dreams, dismissing them as wishful thinking as he had started to view Alastor as a close friend after they forgave each other.
Lucifer slowly falls in love with Alastor, and those dreams continue to haunt him.
Alastor never fell out of love with Lucifer to begin with.
There will be a whole lotta angst in regards to Alastor. He will have to realize that during the time him and Lucifer were separated they have become different people entirely and he will have to let go of the past and maybe get used to Lucifer and him being friends because he doesn't know if they'll ever be anything more.
And with how much he's changed - becoming an overlord and a cannibal to boot, he doesn't know if Lucifer could ever accept him. Especially since at the time he just sees him as just another terrible sinner.
Alastor falls in love with that new version of his husband and Lucifer does the same.
Eventually Lucifer breaks through Lilith's enchantment and him and Alastor have a proper reunion. Lucifer will break the enchantment on Charlie soon after.
Alastor writes down what happened and explains why he made the deal with Lilith (he can't tell anyone anything, but he can write it down)
Lucifer will be able to get him out of it with some time.
Eventually they will fight and win against Heaven.
Maybe they'll cause a rebellion in Heaven by it's residents by using both Lucifer's angelic power and Alastor's radio show to broadcast the truth of their pure leaders. The ones that take pleasure in killing and hunting those who are already down.
Whew! Done! Finally! Whoop!
It turned out far longer than I thought it would but here you go ig.
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autistichalsin · 5 months
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Imagine seeing a character who is the ultimate subversion of the "wise mentor" trope, who needs as much from you as you do from him, who grows as a person in your presence, who reveals that everything about the wise mentor role was forced on him, not something he ever wanted, that it was making him miserable to the point he was forgetting who he truly was, to the point that the happiest you see him is when he does a complete 180 from anything that can be described as a wise mentor.
Imagine that this character constantly hints at having a HUGE problem with people telling him what he can and can not be, by virtue of their preconceived notions of him, which are more often than not entirely false (based only on his size and/or most superficial aspects of his outward personality), to the point that he is self-conscious admitting what his favorite food is because he's so used to being judge for how it fits his appearance.
Imagine that this character constantly lives, breathes, eats the entire concept of consent, telling you that he is proud of having rejected unwanted advances, even if it earned him scars, because bodily autonomy is that important to him. Imagine that this character immediately empathizes with a survivor of assault, telling him in earnest that he is amazed, because many in that position are never able to enjoy intimacy again.
Then imagine listening to that character open up that they were enslaved for three years, their body used by someone smaller and weaker than themself, with the constant threat of death keeping them from revolting. Imagine this character all but saying they have trauma bonds, and struggle to balance their trauma with the internal voice telling them they should be grateful they weren't killed and that they were able to get physical pleasure- as many rape victims struggle with, thinking that arousal or an orgasm is a sign they were asking for it. Imagine this character telling you this while they, unlike the other rape survivor character, is not who people think of when they think of rape survivors, but still, he trusts you with this information.
Then imagine scoffing and going "this wise old Druid? How could he be so weak as to have been sexually abused? This is disgusting and needs to be removed from the plot. Our character is BETTER than being a rape victim. If fans want representation, they could go look at this other character who fits the exact image people have in their head when they think of rape victims" without an ounce of self-reflection.
Sure is great that our fandom is beyond such judgment of survivors, knowing that in a story where every single character has had their bodily autonomy violated, it would be foolish to blame this particular character for what happened to th-
Oh.
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minicoffee00 · 6 months
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I’m just here as a distraction right? Part 1 Lucien x Reader
Plot: After Lucien finds out Elain is his mate, he spends the first year pining after her. After seeing her getting closer to Azriel and her found family in the Night Court, he starts to have feelings for a High Fae Girl who stumbled in Jurian, Vassa and Lucien’s home.
Warnings: Angst, Fluff, Smut
Lucien had listened to Feyre when she'd said to keep trying to reach out to Elain, to get to know her. He attempted getting her food and drinks but she always looked at it in disgust and pushed it away. She never accepted any of the offered gifts, or his time that he offered up.
Lucien got to the point where he wasn't even trying to woo her, just trying to be a friend, someone she could talk to when she didn't know who else to go to. But Elain was being cruel, she wasn't rejecting the bond, because when she did that it made it real and she didn't want to acknowledge it. However, she was completely happy to pursue Azriel.
When he saw them out in the garden, he couldn't help but see how Elain was forcing a connection between them, even more so when she knew he was watching.
"Feyre, I cant stand to be here much longer. I'm being treated like a stray wet dog coming into your home. I no longer wish to impose" he voices, knowing he had a place with Jurian and Vassa.
"Please Lucien, she'll come around" Feyre begged, holding Nyx on her hip.
"It's been a year Feyre, she wont even acknowledge me as a friend. Which i would have been to her despite the bond. It's running me ragged ... her not rejecting me and letting me move on while i have to watch her with HIM" Lucien grits out.
"I know, but please Lucien. You are my friend" Feyre breathes coming closer to him. Just as he was about to cave, and admit defeat and say he would stay here for a little longer, Azriel and Elain walked in from the garden, Azriel with a hand on her lower back guiding her through the door.
They both pause, seeing Lucien, Feyre and Nyx. Elain stops her laughter shying away a little seeing the red haired fae that always hung about.
"I'll take that as my leave" he says glancing at Feyre, and she knew what he meant. He wouldn't be coming back.
"Lucien, please" Feyre begs one last time.
"Goodbye Feyre" he says before winnowing out and to a place, he felt slighty better in, but not home. He never felt like he'd find a home.
Lucien arrived home, greated by a heavily drunk Vassa and Jurian. He joined them for the entire night only waking to a rough bang on the front door of their house.
Lucien was the one who drunk the least and ended up aanswering the loud knocking. He opens the door to a face he hadn't seen in a year.
"Tam?" he asks in shock, the blonde man seemed healthier now. His blonde hair was bright again no knots and no dirt in sight. He had washed, found new clothes and he looked like his old self.
"Hello, old friend" he greets, Lucien steps out pulling his old High Lord into a hug.
"I think there's something I've acquired that is off use to you" he grins out, in a teasing manner.
"You- You're here" Lucien breathes out, a deep chuckle coming from Tamlin.
"Yes, I am. Beron has fallen and Eris has had the transfer of his High Lord nature. It seems he had granted your mother access to go to her former lover" he says, the grin turning a little malicious, something that didn't go un-noticed by Lucien.
"And now that the Spring Court is back and thriving and my people are happy, I've had time to travel and well gather important information" he adds.
"Information like?"
"Seems like little Feyre, hasn't been completely honest with you. Someone you deemed a friend. So I'm here as a friend Lucien, because that's what we are and i, unlike some people don't hide the truth from them" Tamlin admits, and Lucien stays silent. A gentle nod for Tamlin to continue.
"Beron, isn't your father. Your mother had an affair with a different High Lord of the Seven Courts" Tamlin smirks, Lucien's head snaps up in shock, he kenw Beron treated him awfully and thats why he'd left to come to Tamlin.
"Who is it?" Lucien asks.
"Feyre worked out that Hellion is your father, he and your mother had an affair and thus you were born, so right now Lucien you my friend are the only heir to the Day Court. And a hopeful ally of mine. Now that Eris has taken over Autumn Court, god knows what he's agreed to with the night court!" Tamlin explains, however the conversation is cut short as you enter.
“STOP” a shout comes across, a young woman, running towards Tamlin, thanks to her attire it was obvious that she was from the Day Court.
“Lucien, you weren’t supposed to find out like this” you say running up to them, you go to punch Tamlin, regardless who he is until an unearthly growl stops you, Lucien stepping in front of you. To protect you.
“My father sent you?” Lucien asks testing the word, it sounding so odd and foreign.
“Yes, to come get you so he could talk to you and explain to you. I’m one of his most trusted warriors. Please come back to the day court, he wants to meet you… well as his son” you offered, Lucien only grunts a hand slipping up his face covering his tired eyes.
“I can’t, not right now” he grunts out turning to go back in the house.
“Then let me stay with you, I have to bring you back eventually. So please let me stay with you until you feel ready.
And it took a while for Lucien to feel ready, he had so much on his mind, he had a father who according to what you had told him only found out a day before he had and had sent you out the minute be found out. His actual father seemed to care and he couldn’t help but think of what his life would be like IF he had been raised by Hellion rather than Beron.
Then there was the Elain situation, he could feel everything down the bond that had only seemed to strengthen and pull at his heart strings as he left. But he could feel Elain and everything she did. There was also the Night Court as a whole, specifically Feyre for lying to him. And now the fact that Tamlin was back asking for his friendship only now seeing his as a potential ally.
The only person who had been patient with him was you, you’d waited and helped him with little tasks he just couldn’t bring himself to do.
And because if this he slowly started to cling to you, as his only support.
This turned sexual very quickly, he had wanted some kind of release, and you being his outlet made sense.
From your mind however, you had slowly started to fall for the Day Court Prince, as his father had said to you, you’d teased him for days about it.
Every little thing you did was from the bottom of your heart, you wanted him to feel wanted and needed as you could tell he hadn’t had someone show him this level of affection in a long time.
“Lucien” you moaned as he kissed up the side of your body, his mouth finding itself on your breast, sucking and pulling at the tender flesh as it perked up.
“Yes, sweetheart” he asks.
“I need you” you say to him, he hadn’t understood the full meaning of those words but to you, that was commitment to him in itself.
He pulled up the dress skirt that you were currently wearing courtesy of Vassa, whom said you could borrow anything while you were here.
His fingers slid up your thighs, finding you already bare.
"So naughty" he groaned, you were already very wet, meaning his two fingers slid in with ease. He pushed them in and out, making a scissoring motion. He leaned down kissing across your jaw and neck, while basking in the noises you were making because of him.
He pulled his pants off and down, leaving him bear. He slipped in thursting until he bottomed out, whines coming from both of you. He made you feel so full and satisfied, and with this feeling you'd assume he was your mate.
However, Jurian had made it his mission to tease you around the fact that Lucien was already technically bespoke for.
You'd done this many times and Lucien never said anything, other than the occasional compliment, not abouthow you looked just how you felt around him. Breathy groans and whines were the most of what came from him, you on the other were extremely vocal, telling him how his skin glowed in the light, or how his eyes danced with colour. How silky his hair felt as it brushed against your breasts when he leant down.
He started to thrust in an out of you quicker, his hips starting to stagger, you tightened around him feeling that coil in you unleash with white hot ecstasy.
"Elain" he moaned, as you both came, he stilled inside you immedielty realising what he said.
"I-" you start but he pulls out of you, looking mortified at what he had just done.
"I didn't mean to say her name I - cant. I'm so sorry" he says putting his head in his hands.
"It's okay, I guess im just here as a distraction right, while you figure everything out, with you dad and you mate and your old courts." you say, pulling the dress down and standing up. You walk to the bathroom slamming the door shut and turning on the water to fill the bath.
Quiet sobs came out of you as you sent a letter to Hellion through a Falcon telling him you'd be returning to the palace without his son and that you couldn't stay here anylonger.
A/N:
Later on today, i will post my up and coming and hopefully will be able to post what's in store for my 24 days of Christmas!
Not sure if a part 2 is needed however if there is demand i will be more than happy.
It's reading week at university this week so i can post more too! So my up and coming will hopefully be quick!
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bookofmirth · 3 months
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what do you think about ppl saying that the cauldron is corrupt means that maybe the elucien bond is indeed “fake” and that the trove trope links Azriel with Elain and that would be their plot
It's honestly funny that people are acting like they gained new information that somehow changes anything about mating bonds. All we really got in hofas is further confirmation that sjm is going to give everyone and their dog a mating bond, that it never goes away, and that mating bond = endgame. All of which we knew.
Setting aside the fact that that would supposedly be their plot - despite all of the actual world-threatening info they learned in hofas - let's talk about the cauldron.
We already knew that the Cauldron had been "corrupted". In acomaf, the Bone Carver tells Rhys and Feyre this:
“Long ago, before the High Fae, before man, there was a Cauldron … They say all the magic was contained inside it, that the world was born in it. But it fell into the wrong hands. And great and horrible things were done with it. Things were forged with it. Such wicked things that the Cauldron was eventually stolen back at great cost.
So this is not news. Why are they just now deciding that it means something?
Speaking of this reason, since Rhys knew in acomaf that the Cauldron was corrupted, and if every mating bond could be suspect because of that, then it stands to reason that none of them would be so hyped about mating bonds. Every character would be much more suspicious if they got one, and you know that Tamlin would be looking to delegitimize Feyre and Rhys's. But they aren't acting on that assumption, that the Cauldron is giving them something that is corrupt. If Rhys didn't know this info before talking to the Bone Carver, then he would have looked into it, knowing that Feyre was supposedly his mate. However, learning this info did nothing to keep Rhys from thinking that his bond was every bit as valid as he'd thought it was before. Feyre didn't warn either of her sisters, "hey, your bonds might be fake"??? If that information was supposed to be have implications for mating bonds, we haven't seen a single character act on that. For years in book time, and through a few mating bonds.
2. If the Cauldron were randomly making mating bonds, then we'd have to consider a few things, namely that it puts the validity of every single mating bond in acotar into question. Are we really going to go out here and say that chapter 54 of acomaf is meaningless? That Nesta and Cassian may as well cancel that mating ceremony because what's the point?
3. We don't know where mating bonds come from. Rhys, who knows more about the world besides anyone other than Amren, doesn't know where they come from. Rhys says maybe the Mother, maybe the Cauldron, but the fact is that the mating bond comes from SJM because she decides that when a couple is going to be endgame, she makes them mates.
4. If a person had used the cauldron to create a fake elucien mating bond, then... who? Why would they do that? They've been mates for 2+ years in book time and literally nothing has come of it? No one gives a fuck that Elain and Lucien are mates.
5. Mating bonds are from birth. It has been stated multiple times. It didn't happen because Elain went into the cauldron. It gets stronger when the sisters are Made and come across the wall, but it existed before that.
6. SJM has told us exactly what happens when a mating bond is rejected. In fact, from HOFAS, when Hunt was talking to Baxian about Danika:
“It was a potential minefield, to bring up his dead mate. To lose a mate was to lose half of your soul; to live without them was torture.”
From acomaf:
you were in love with another male, and had destroyed yourself to save him, and that … that I didn’t care. If you were going to die, I was going to die with you.
From acofas:
I still saw that moment, in my sleeping and waking dreams. How his face had looked, how his chest had not risen, how the bond between us had shredded into ribbons. I still felt it, that hollowness in my chest where the bond had been, where he had been. Even now, with that bond again flowing between us like a river of star-flecked night, the echo of its vanishing lingered. Drew me from sleep; drew me from a conversation, a painting, a meal.
7. She has also talked about mating bonds in the highest praise; here are some examples.
Mating bonds = endgame in sjm world. She creates them because she wants that couple to be together. It's really that simple.
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Just saw a reel that was discussing Elain and Lucien not being endgame because her “choosing” someone else would be a lot more compelling of a story than another mating bond story.
When I see stuff like this I just want to ask… how? How is it more compelling?
So… I wanted to imagine what that “compelling story” would be like according to them. Elain and Azriel start seeing eachother in secret, will their romantic arc just be Azriel beginning to see Elain as a capable individual with wants needs and motivations beyond sex? Will it be that he stops obsessing about her mating bond with Lucien and that she isnt his mate? Okay. What is their tension point? Rhys? So Azriel will tell Rhys he loves Elain and Rhys will still not support his brother? Okay. Will Lucien be their tension point? If Elain tells Lucien that she loves Azriel and not him (even though she wouldn’t know they aren’t compatible because she never even let herself know him at this point) do you believe Lucien will not let her go? That he will call a blood duel or cut ties with the NC because of Elain when he canonically has been the only character to put duty before his feelings? And that he also has planned to let Elain be with her fiance if thats what she wanted since before meeting her? Okay.
If we take the canon stuff that has been written about these characters, then NONE of these plot points have tension or conflict. Elain would tell Lucien she doesn’t want him and Azriel would tell Rhys he is in love with Elain and thats as far as that plot goes.
Great, now Elain and Az are together, but what happens? They live happy together in Velaris forever, or Elain starts having the what if thought that comes with having rejected something she didn’t even know she wouldn’t want… And Azriel forever has the fear that Elain will one day wake up and choose to explore something with her ACTUAL mate, and what happens if Azriel’s mate shows up, will Azriel also reject his mating bond, would this also not plague both of their minds FOREVER?
And Lucien? Canonically he could be losing his mind and overall his arc would be that his epic romance ended in Jesminda dying and his mate rejected him without even getting to know him💀 But he will suddenly overcome this and be with another female who will not have the same doubts about being with him that Elain and Azriel have? Right.
Should I keep reminding everyone that this is a fated mates story in a universe where fated mates relationships that have love are the THE EPITOME OF LOVE?? THE MOST SOUGHT OUT AND WANTED, PERIOD???
I keep saying this but I will say it again, in order to have that “compelling story” where Elain rejects Lucien we should have had them already interact with each other, she should KNOW she doesn’t want him, and no, not because she is avoiding him now it means she has already decided they’re incompatible, THIS SHOULD BE CLEAR BY NOW. I swear these people don’t understand how a romantic arc with a HAPPY ENDING looks like.
Anyway we all know what the actual compelling story is, where the tension really lies, where Elain will have to grow and find her happiness in places she probably never expected, where her own needs and motivations will be respected and accounted. And no, its not with Azriel.
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I've been thinking about a comment I've seen thrown around in the great "whose book is next?" debate, which is "we don't know enough about Elain yet."
I wouldn't say I'm confused as to why people say this. I know it's because for many people, Elain is easily forgotten and purposely ignored because of her character archetype. Especially in fantasy, female characters who are more soft spoken, traditionally feminine, and have a penchant for following social norms or being generally agreeable as a way to get by in the world are often pushed to the side. You see it not only in how other characters act towards them but also how readers value them. We specifically see Rhys and Feyre actively choose to put Nesta's needs (and ultimately her story) before Elain's by focusing on "one sister at a time" which is explained by Nesta being the squeakier wheel.
But let's take a moment to understand what we have seen of Elain's journey so far.
We have seen Elain: live in poverty, witness her sister's kidnapping, mentally manipulated by fae magic to forget, see her family return to riches, have to navigate high society again, find a fiance and become betrothed, host queens in her home to help her Fae sister which she hides from her betrothed, kidnapped, made into a Fae against her will, have a mating bond snap with someone who isn't her fiance, grapple with becoming fae, learning the nature of her new powers, mourn the separation with her love, processing that she has a mating bond to another, receive visions of a powerful death god, try to get back her fiance and is horribly dumped, kidnapped again, present in a battle, killing the King of Hybern to protect her sister, losijg her father,process some more her trauma of losing her human life and grieving her father, trying to fit in with her new family and her new life, insisting she wants to help the NC and to learn more about her powers, pursue a crush and be rejected... Again, grapple with the codependent relationship she has with Nesta both in setting boundaries and trying to heal, reconnect with her sister Feyre, and witness her sister die and be resurrected in childbirth.
To me, that spells out quite a character journey of experiencing trauma of many types, overcoming adversity, and trying to find her identity and place in the world.
What is most important is on all three of those counts we have seen the start of this process but we haven't delved deep or had any resolution. And more specifically, because these are romances, we haven't seen how Elain will grow and make sense of her mating bond that she feels a lot of reluctance towards. I point all of this out because there is a lot of tension in Elain's narrative. There are several unresolved plots and actions that have happened to her character that we are sitting and wondering what she is going to do and what she thinks of all of these things.
I just don't think the statement that "we don't know enough about Elain yet" for her to have the next book is a valid argument to make when you actually sit down and take the energy to see Elain. To focus on what her specific experience has been so far in the books.
Her story is geared up and ready to go. Specifically her story with Lucien. And this is leaving out how connected she is to the overall fantasy plots because the bigger point I wanted to make is that as a character, Elain already has a lot to her story and even more to explore. She is more than geared up to be a FMC.
I know especially with the ship war it's easy to get caught up in rooting for what we want to see happen. But at the end of the day, this is a character we've known since the first novel, who has been integral to many parts of the story and directly affected by what has happened in the story. So the entire attitude that it's preposterous to think Elain is ready for her own book is really just doing what everyone else in her life does to her - underestimate her. And I can't wait for people to see how much they have misjudged and ignored her.
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Please please please more "Fake Dating for Funding"! I haven't read much PR stuff in the last few years and your newest piece jerked me right back to that old standby hyperfixation. It's so cute!!
answering this sooooo late, OOPS SORRY, but here's a little ficlet as i try to get myself back in the writing groove.... the original fake dating for funding fic is right here, but i was thinking over plot concepts earlier and this one made me laugh, LMAO
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"I have a favor to ask of you," Hermann says one morning.
Typical of Hermann, it's blunt and to the point, no show of bartering or sweetening Newt up with dessert or anything like that. In theory Newt should be annoyed, but Hermann indebts himself to Newt so rarely (and never willingly) that Newt’s actually kind of interested to see where this goes. He pushes up his work goggles and strips off his gloves without a second thought.
Hermann is standing directly over Newt’s side of the yellow line, one hand balled into a fist while the other white-knuckles his cane, his shoulders hunched over. He looks extremely uncomfortable. On the other hand Hermann rarely looks comfortable, so this isn’t anything new, or something to draw immediate conclusions from.
“Okay,” Newt says. “Lay it on me.”
“I would not blame you if you found yourself thinking less of me,” Hermann says, “or outright rejecting the proposition. I’m aware it is far more than one typically asks of a…” He swallows. “Colleague.”
The word hangs awkwardly in the air between them. It’s not that it’s an inaccurate descriptor, but it doesn’t completely encompass the, uh, reality of things, being that they were a litttttle more than colleagues up until two months ago. (Not that they called themselves anything other than colleagues for the duration of that whole—indiscretion. It was a little confusing.)
Still, Hermann’s groveling, and Newt’s interested. “Oh, sweet,” he says, maybe a little too casually. Just two bros having a normal conversation about how they're nothing more than colleagues. “I’m totally in. What are we doing? Is it illegal or something?”
He could actually use Hermann’s mad computer hacker skills for something in the near future—Newt wants unrestricted card access to the typically very restricted hazardous materials storage in the jaeger bay for reasons he’s not going to disclose—and doing something illegal for the guy would be a great way to get him to do something illegal for Newt in return. In a favor-for-favor way more than a blackmail way, because Newt mostly isn't a dick. And anyway, maybe doing some platonic fun k-science bonding time will be good for them. Make things a little less tense. Newt’s been working on that really hard lately, mostly because his multiple Shatterdome transfer requests have been outright denied by the Marshal and he seems to be out of alternatives.
“No,” Hermann says.
He looks at his shoes. He’s about two unlucky inches away from stepping on a piece of kaiju spleen Newt dropped earlier and forgot about, and the fact that he’s not taking any precautions to shield his precious ugly wingtips tells Newt he means business. “Perhaps a little…morally questionable.”
“Oooh, Hermann, you’re such a tease,” Newt says. He tosses his nasty gloves in the trash can and scoots Hermann towards the cluster of their desks with a hand to the small of his back, ignoring the way Hermann bristles and digs the end of his cane halfheartedly into the floor. “Come on, come on, I’ll make coffee, stop looking so depressed.”
He does make himself a coffee but brews a quick cup of black tea for Hermann, which turns out to be kind of a waste of his time, since Hermann blatantly ignores the mug Newt slides in front of him. He’s gone from looking like the most emo librarian in the world to looking vaguely nauseous. If circumstances weren’t as they are, Newt might say it was making him look exceptionally alluring—that whole sickly Victorian lad thing really gets him going. “If you’ve forgotten,” Hermann says, “we’ve another of those foolish PPDC fundraisers soon, at the end of the month.”
“Oh.” Newt leans back in his chair, a little disappointed. “Is that it?”
“Yes,” Hermann says. “No.” He shakes his head gravely. He’s so dramatic sometimes, it’s kinda cute. “It is the root of the problem, but not the entirety of it. You’ll recall, I presume, how badly in need of funding we are, myself in particular for the Breach-mapping software I am attempting to develop.”
Newt does recall, because yeah, he is also in need of funding real bad. Can’t make awesome, ground-breaking advancements in the field of kaiju biology without any kaiju bits to study the biology of. That spleen currently threatening to ooze over the yellow tape line represents approximately sixty percent of Newt's remaining currently viable samples. “Uh, yeah?”
“I have,” Hermann makes a face, “a working theory, so to speak. You’ll further recall the similar PPDC event we attended in August of last year?”
“Yeah?”
“And the one we attended this year, in the week following our—”
“Yeah, Hermann, I remember.”
“Right,” Hermann says.
Newt remembers the second one more clearly than he likes, because having to make nice with Hermann to present a united front six days after a very, very stupid argument about Newt maaaaybe stealing half of Hermann’s sandwich—which ultimately led to a mutual and spur of the moment decision to dissolve the whole weird lab partners-with-benefits thing they had going on—was one of the more uncomfortable experiences of his career. Still, he made as nice as he could, because his supply of work gloves and Keurig pods were running dangerously low and he didn’t feel like shelling out the money from his own abysmally small paycheck for any.
He doesn’t know what was so significant about the other one they went to though, the one last August. It was humid. Newt remembers being so hot he had to take off his tie, and he lost it somewhere in the convention center afterwards. He misses that tie. Hermann hated it, which makes him culprit number one in its disappearance.
“We drew in significantly more donations in August than we did two months ago,” Hermann says, and opens the top drawer of his desk to produce a neat stack of papers, which he spreads in front of Newt to reveal a series of color-coded spreadsheets.
Newt’s eyes glaze over a little at the sight. He doesn’t bother extending the effort to confirm Hermann’s data—as much as he hates to admit it, the guy is thorough with his numbers and rarely wrong about stuff like this. He flips through it anyway to appease him. And, honestly, he thinks Hermann’s feelings would be hurt if he didn’t, and Newt really is committed to being a good labmate (y’know, for the very brief time being). “And prior to August,” Hermann continues, “you’ll note that the average sum total of donations we received per event was significantly lower. August was an anomaly.”
“Sure,” Newt says. “So what?”
Hermann slides the spreadsheet back into his desk, pulls his dorky glasses off, and exhales slowly: he’s getting to the point. Newt has a hunch what that point might be, but Hermann always looks funny when he gets into lecture mode, and Newt doesn’t want to interrupt it.
“I believe,” Hermann says, “that our—relationship status, which was significantly different on that occasion as compared to the rest—might possibly have had no small influence, for one reason or another. We certainly behaved more, er, affectionately, or tenderly around each other, and perhaps others took note and found it charming. Or some such thing. Of course I can't draw any conclusions from a single point of data, but I believe if we were to... Well, it's a bit silly, hearing myself now.”
“You want me to be your fake b-f so we can trick people into giving a shit about us and shake them down easier,” Newt says.
The tips of Hermann’s generous ears go red. “I’m aware it’s an unusual request,” he says, “especially considering… recent certain developments in our working relationship.”
It’s not exactly the fun platonic bonding time Newt anticipated, but he has a hunch Hermann might be on to something—the whole doomed romance, give us money so our love has a fighting chance of surviving the apocalypse thing, which they were apparently already inadvertently playing up. He’s willing to give it a shot. Making a joke out of it might actually help Newt let go of his last lingering nostalgia for that super brief period of time he and Hermann got up to after-hours hijinks and were almost amicable with each other. And, you know, on the other hand, if that doesn’t work, he could totally do the opposite of moving on and revel in the opportunity to do couple-y tender things with Hermann again.
“Yeah, sure,” Newt says. Real chill about it. He’s so chill, man.
Hermann blinks at him owlishly, clearly taken aback, but says nothing.
“It’ll be fun,” Newt adds. “It’s a good plan, great idea, it’ll totally work. Nothing has to be weird, right? I mean, it’s not like we were really even dating before or anything. There’s no reason for it to be weird. It’s definitely not for me. Is it for you?”
“No, er, of course not,” Hermann says. “It was my idea, wasn’t it?”
They’re totally over each other, but they can also totally pretend they’re not for a night or two, no sweat. “Cool,” Newt says, and repeats, maybe to convince himself, “It’ll be fun. We can dress up all fancy and wear matching ties or something and talk about how tragic we are. I’ll grab your ass in front of people and you can brag about how cool and smart and sexy I am.”
“You are not doing that,” Hermann says, “and I am not doing that. When have I ever—oh, nevermind. I am not averse to the neckties, however, especially if it means you’re at least attempting to look somewhat professional for our prospective—”
“Dude, come on, you totally just think I look hot in a suit.”
The splotchy red flush spreads from Hermann’s ears to his neck as he scowls at Newt. He doesn’t bother denying it: Newt’s sure they both vividly remember the most recent annual k-science research symposium when Newt finally let himself be talked into renting a fancy blazer, to look, uh, like the expert in your field you are, Newton, and Hermann had such a hard time keeping his hands off Newt in increasingly unchaste ways that they had to duck out early. I like when you look put-together and competent, Hermann said, or something along those lines, there was a lot of kissing going on and Newt wasn’t exactly paying attention to specifics. He ended up losing the deposit on the suit—which is why he stole the sandwich in the first place, actually. Very petty revenge. Full circle.
“Piss off,” Hermann grumbles.
“We’re gonna have to put in for just one hotel room if we wanna sell it, you know,” Newt says, the realization suddenly hitting him. “Maybe even one bed. It’ll look totally suspicious if we don’t, right?”
Hermann meets his eyes for a few awkward, quiet seconds, and then they both quickly look away from each other. Newt stands up and makes a show of gathering their untouched mugs, both of which have gone extremely cold. Hermann slips his glasses back on and opens up his desk drawer to shuffle through his immaculate spreadsheets again, pretending to look for errors that they both know aren't there.
“We’ve,” Hermann finally says, and then clears his throat. “We’ve survived worse. I'm sure we can manage. It’s only for two nights, after all.”
“Yeah, totally,” Newt says.
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SPOILERS FOR KUNG FU PANDA 4
This is a massive rant btw. I have a lot of thoughts about this movie
(TW: Bad spelling and not remembering any names 💀)
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Yh so I'm ranting rn
Like it was good, but not great 🕴️. Does not compare to the first 2, DEFINITELY not the second one, that one was just 🙌🏽 . And u know, that's ok, it's hard to pull a puss in boots and do better than the originals, but still the movie was lack luster
These are my points for why:
1. Plot was SO obvious. As soon as I saw that fox I knew she d be the new dragon warrior, cuz yh. Just obvious. And you know what? I wouldv been fine with that if they developed her character more. Like her bond with po SHOULDV been developed SO MUCH MORE. It felt like their whole dynamic was she was sarcastic and he went 🥺 n that's it. Like, why couldn't they have bonded more on them both being orphans ? How she feels unwanted because the world has rejected her and KEEPS rejecting her, but Po (who has gone thru a very similar thing) can teach her that yes that may be true, but that won't always be the case and once she finds her found family she can feel accepted, just like what happens to Po.
2. The villain and her daughter - so much potential but not enough done for them. Like just. I loved their dynamic, just SO MICH POTENTIAL BUT NOT ENOUGH GIVEN. There was one flashback of them meeting. That's it. There was basically only r4 interactions between them aswell: the betrayal scene, the "I'm using you" scene,the flashback and the final fight. And in NONE of these does it show how strong of a connection they have what about their relationship makes the fox betray Poe for the chameleon??? I wish we had a shi fu and tai lung type flashback where it showed the chameleon raising her and them developing a bond so that we know how hard it is for the fox to go against her orders
3. The villain herself - what motive ? U cannot convince me that "I'm evil because all the kung fu masters rejected me because I was too small" WHEN THERES A SNAKE THE SAME SIZE AS HER AND A F*CKING BUG WHO ARE BOTH AMAZING KUNG FU WARRIORS . like no. Just no. Someone would accepted her. U can't use her size as a reason for her becoming evil, just no. Instead, why not explain her reason being that she was poor/living in the streets ? A large portion of the movie is set around how there's a large group underground who have turned to crime, and poverty is often rampant in cities, so why not use that ? It also allows her to bond more with the fox as they have the same upbringing, but instead the chameleon was never able to get past how no one helped her and everyone rejected her, whilst the fox is able to accept where she is and find ppl who will accept her. Then they could've had a rlly impactful scene in the end where the fox accepts change and wanted the chameleon to change with her because SHE loves her and would fight for her, mother daughter style. Like writing that out just rlly made me think about how much they missed the mark, almost all 3 KFP movies are about father-son bonds, this movie could've had an impactful mother-daughter bond n it blew it 😩. So yh, I don't think the villains motive was fleshed out enough, I just don't think that her being small should have been the main centre for her character. Compare her to all the past villains, her motive is too simple and not developed enough
4. Tai lung and shen. NOT USED ENOUGH. How dare u bring those GODS OF VILLAISN back and not use them properly. And also have Po barely be surprised about them . SHEN IS THE MAN THAT COMMITTED MASS GENOCIDE AGAINST UR SPECIES, KILLED UR MOTHER AND LEFT U AN ORPHAN, Y R U NOT SHOCKED OR WORRIED THAT HE S HERE. And on top of that, ain't no what that peacock would simply bow and go " 🙂" and leave. He ain't bowing to Po, why would he respect him ? Shen doesn't CARE about being the dragon warrior, that wasnt his calling or whatever. Like, i could hav accepted it if he at least had a sentence apologizing for his actions, just ANYTHING that explains why he s so calm. I'm not angry that he is calm, I'm angry that it wasn't explained 🕴️(and tbh, I don't even think he needed a redemption arc much. He did horrible stuff, yes he has trauma, doesn't explain his actions. His death was a result of his arrogance and karma for his actions, I just think his character was fine (stressing him as a character was well written) the way it is, of anything this movie and taken away from his character )
And tai lung. Most of his character in this was comedy. And him going from "you are a mistake🙄" to "actually ur not a mistake 😏" within 10 minutes was annoying. I wish there was more interaction between him and Po. Then fighting together, bonding. Have them BOTH grow to move on from the title of dragon warrior together, since that title is such a grand part of both of their identities that they both have had a tough time letting go of. Once again, I'm not angry that he made jokes n was acting goofy (that was fun, I liked that), I'm annoyed that the movie didn't explain or provide context for why he was able to get over his past feelings and beliefs.
I can understand that they died and were able to let go of their actions in their mortal life, i just wish that it was addressed or properly shown. Especially shen, in his last moments he was given the chance to fess up n be good and he still refused. Bro died with u finished business, I would like to see how he came to terms with that or at least hav it b addressed
Overall, the bringing back of the past VILLAISN was fumbled. So much potential, but not used and on top of that it just kinda makes a joke of them and their original actions.
--> quick add on that I just remembered. Where r the five ? Like, I understand that they could've get the actors back or whatever. Ok find. But why not hav the chameleon capture all of them at the start and then they remain captured/past out/in a coma the rest of the movie until they R rescued :/. Like. That's such a better way of writing them out cuz a. It gives Poe even more incentive to want to take down the chameleon B. It makes the chameleon a much more threatening villain, cuz all the chameleon does in this movie is push one dude down some stairs, and then bring back so dead ppl, lick them n put them in a cage 🕴️. I would appreciate more stakes. ALSO PO SHOULDV TALKED ABOUT HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH THE 5 MORE, cuz this guy is a yapper, ain't no way he ain't talking bout them. It couldv once again been a way he bonded with the fox, if both of them had looked up to the 5 or something like that, or maybe even just about how Po can't wait to accept the fox into his found family
ANOTHER SIDE NOTE: wish they developed po and the foxes friendship. I might hav said this b4, I hav bad memory. Just there could've been more bonding , wish there was but alas 😪
5. Poe s trauma ? Now, I'm a psychology student. I love seeing mental health and depth show in movies so I kno I'm being a bit picky. I just wished that we could see more of Poe coming to terms of all the stuff that has happened to him. Or at least referenceing it. I just think that he was way too jokey and light hearted the whole time. Like, there was a scene where fireworks suddenly went off next to him. I wish he flinched or anything like that, since fireworks were such a big thing (almost a trigger) for him in the first movie because of the mass killing of his species by shen. Like, even if he has gotten over it all, it would have been great to have him reference everything he s been through. It could hav been one of the things he bonded over with the fox, how yes, times get tough but you can get thru it if u r supported by the right people
Like tbh I think it wouldv been rlly cool if this movie focused on love :both the healthy and toxic types. Bringing back old villains can reference old baggage , like the toxic love between tai lung and shi fu, and the chameleon and the fox. It could be about breaking those toxic habits and changing to move past them and let the last go. Po couldv acted as the message of that, he could show his surroundings characters how to let go of the past to move on to a better future . Like, after everything he s been through that wouldv been so impactful.
Overall, just a lot of missed potentials in this movie. Still liked it tho. So here are some things I liked.
Visuals: fun visuals . Tho I do think some of the scenery wasn't as memorable as previous movies. Like comparing this villains hideout (wrong word but oh well) to shens, shens is so much more memorable and impactful. Looking at it you feel intimidated. In this movie, not so much. But it was still very pretty and u can tell some hard work went behind it, had some great animations, very smoothe, so yh :)
VIOLA DAVIS AS THE CHAMELEON 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 LOVE HER, LOVE THE VOICE ACTING JUST 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽 like, the chameleon wasn't fleshed out as much as I'd hoped, but I still love her because I can FEEL that's she could be AMAZING cuz everything else was great except for the lack of backstory. Like I love her power, I love her character design, I love her voice .
The gay dad's 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 I loved them. Highlight of the movie for me🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 every scene I saw them I smiled. I just loved them so much, that was so cute, I love how they cared about Po so much AND CARED ABOUT EACH OTHER!! That was so cute. Loved that so much. I would watch an entire movie of them cuz just 🙌🏽🙌🏽 loved them so much.
So yh, that's it. Gonna go rewatch all the other movies now
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Ever wondered why the Elucien arguments pulling out Sarah’s 2016 interview and Facebook comment (yeah that one after ACOMAF came out) are SO annoying? 🙄
Ok so I ended up in a TikTok comment section today (yes I know that was my first mistake) and it occurred to me, we are once again not on the same page about some fundamental ideas on writing. The OP argued Sarah hasn’t changed her mind on the next books &elucien and that she said so in an interview after ACOSF.
Ok, but there’s a huge GLARING problem with that.
Basically, a writer makes promises in the text. I’m paraphrasing Sanderson here (I watch his lectures for fun, even tho I don’t write cuz I’m a dork) so he was talking about the first chapter and prologue of a book, or movie… but if you’re writing a multi-book epic, then you’re probably going to make promises about plots and characters of your future books, right?
So what are these promises? Basically what kind of book it is, plot&trope hints, the tone, goals, journeys and obstacles.
Ok back to SJM: why is the argument that “she said Elucien and hasn’t changed her mind infuriating? Because she made different promises in the books. And that is what Elriels mean when we say “set up”.
I mean just from the amount of interactions, Elriel have more than Elucien.. not to mention the warmth, positivity and thoughtfulness she put into their interactions over seriously 4 books. The promises are crystal clear: there is a romance that started as friendship==plot, but she has a bond w/someone else==obstacle, and Rhys forbade it in a moment resulting in her thinking he rejected her, but he didn’t == twist.
These promises need to be addressed, resolved, fulfilled. Is there something even CLOSE to this kind of story promise existing for Elucien?
I have seriously seen people claim that Elucien are both “friends to lovers” AND “enemies to lovers”…. These cannot both be true, like come on… you’re not even sure what kind of story they promise to be? You’re not sure what kinds of promises Sarah made about Elucien?
Why are you not sure? Because it’s not in the text. My personal view is that Elucien is neither… if they happen it’s kind of worse than either trope, they’re certainly not friends, they are at best indifferent to each other and at worst resentful. Mmmm … delicious “indifferent to lovers” 🫠
On a serious note, I don’t “hate” Elucien, but SJM hasn’t made a single promise in the text that I can quote in here that would make me excited about them. He gave her gifts that she didn’t throw away…. ?? Really?… she made a half step toward him… once… no, just no! And that’s how I feel, regardless if “Lulu deserves love”… sure he does, then write a love interest that brings out flirty firey fox boy from book1 and I’m on board 🫡 ….and don’t try to convince me after 4 books of a tepid nothing that all along it was Elain. Because. I. Don’t. Buy. It.
And my last point (I swear!) why did I get my panties all up in a twist… basically this: a writer makes promises IN THE TEXT, and if what you are saying in interviews directly CONTRADICTS your actual text, then you kinda have a problem. … at that point either you’re a bad writer, or you can’t blindly trust an interview from 7 years ago, it’s outdated!
The great GRRM himself said how often his “gardening style” of writing led to character arcs and romantic pairings changing… so why don’t we start treating Sarah as an adult author, and trust the text, and not an old interview?
It also comes down to trust. You don’t wanna be left feeling like “hmmm this doesn’t feel real, I don’t buy it” it takes you out of the text, and it happens when an author messes up promise-delivery . When an author foreshadows well, and sets up the story with their promises, still manages to surprise us while keeping the promises… well I trust THAT PERSON to tell me the most satisfying story.
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okay so im not sure how man requests are allowed lmao but i spend to much time thinking of scenarios to not submit another 🤣🤣🤣
So i was thinking loki & the reader have been together for a while now, mutually bonding over the love of books, exploration, art ect) you really can add whatever commonalities you’d want but it’s prominent. even the rest of the avengers around the tower know you have loki absolutely whipped & there’s about nothing he wouldn’t do for his princess. well after and incident during a super solder base raid with the team, nothing horribly wrong let’s just say you get ambushed and engage in a fight till y/n happens to get blasted back and knocked unconscious, getting lost in the rubble and continuation of the fight. loki flips out and saves your ass, once back at the tower & you have been cleared by the team doctor, loki has a serious conversation with you. about how he believed you had been taken or worse killed. he’s been thinking about this for awhile and at first what was stopping him was fear of rejection but if this situation taught him anything it’s that he cannot go any longer without calling you his wife. tomorrow is not promised so he wants to make sure y’all will be linked for eternity, getting to my final point. the “Asgardian” way of proposal between two warriors. a love lock, he would magically several lock of his hair from his head and a lock of hair from yours and then magically rebined the opposite locks to each then making the lock into a single braid mixed it with some of your natural hair think magical extension but one bonding you to your future husband. his promise to you. of course ending in smut but i think just passionate love making cause it fits the plot lol.
i hope you take this into consideration, it not i completely understand!!! have a great day hun🥰
Heeeeey!!! Sorry it's taken me so long to get to this!!!!! I need to get my life together lol thank you so much for sending this to me!! I hope i do it justice!! 💚💚💚
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Bonded
Pairing: Avenger Loki x female reader
Warnings: fight sequences, mild violence, panic, anxiety, all the feels, established relationship, soft smut, mild swearing, p in v, unprotected sex
Summary: After an incident on one of your missions, loki makes a decision....
A/n- graphics by @harlequin-hangout
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You walked into the kitchen seeing Thor sitting on a stool at the kitchen island, Loki making a sandwich "Hello love, would you like something to eat?" He asked smiling at you "no thank you, I'm ok." You said leaning on the counter. "I wouldn't mind one." You heard Thor say "you know where the food is brother." Loki snarked turning his attention back to you "what are your plans today princess?" He asked mirroring your stance "I was going to ask you if you wanted to join me, they're hosting a new exhibit at the art museum today." You said wrapping your arms around his middle "I would love nothing more, go get ready I shall be right behind you." He said leaning down pecking your lips seeing you smile.
He watched you leave, turning his attention to Thor when he heard him laugh "is there something amusing brother?" Loki snarled glaring at him. "Not at all, I think it it quite sweet seeing you two." He smiled standing up "to think, the once dark prince of asgard brought to his knees by a mortal woman." He said walking around the kitchen island "so you intend to make jest on my behalf?" Loki snapped crossing his arms. "Not at all, I am very happy for you, I'm glad you found someone who could handle you." He smiled grabbing the bread. "Your mortal princess is quite the woman." He said "that she is." Loki said looking down the hall "now if you will excuse me my love awaits." He said following behind you.
And it was true, Loki would do whatever you asked of him, bend to your will...your every want and desire because he loves you. Loki has kneeled for no one, but for you he would gladly humble himself at your feet in a heartbeat. No one had ever held the prince's heart like you do, and everyone knew it. But Loki couldn't care less, because as long as you were happy, nothing else mattered. He knew he wanted to spend the rest of his life with you, marry you, he wanted only you to be the mother of his children. He thought about proposing many times but his own insecurities would always best him. Would you want to marry someone like him, the man who tried to enslave your planet, the lunatic who attempted the take over of an entire realm...no, you deserved better then that...then him. So he pushed it aside, deciding to bask in your light for as long as you would allow it.
He walked into your shared room seeing you slipping your shoes on when both of your phones started ringing "shit, well have to go to the gallery tomorrow." You huffed throwing your phone on the bed "and we will love, I promise you." Loki said wrapping his arms around you "well, let's go see what the emergency is." You sighed, kissing his cheek you laced your fingers with his guiding him to the conference room. You sat listening to Steve drone on and on about the mission, where you were going until finally "ok, any questions?" He asked as everyone remained silent "Alright, we leave in ten." He said leaving the room. "Oh Mischief." You smiled turning in your chair "I may need some help getting into me suit." You winked seeing his cheeks pinken "anything for you my love." He said standing up hearing everyone groan "oh shut up" you snapped at everyone, grabbing Loki's hand you headed back to your room.
After ten minutes and a pretty intense make out session you both walked out onto the helipad "wow, that was fast. Old age getting to ya?" Tony snarked as you punched him hard on the arm "ouch! What was that for!" He yelled rubbing his arm "you will not speak to him like that." You growled stepping closer "and as far as his...adequacy should I tell you of the other night when he bent me over the..." You snarked "God no....sorry loki." Tony said shuffling inside. "Darling, you didn't have to." He trailed off as you leaned up kissing him deeply "no one speaks to my prince in such a way. Now come on let's find a seat." You said winking as you walked inside. He felt his heart flutter in his chest at your words, no one had stood up for him like that before. Maybe you did love him as much as he loved you....
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"Hey firecracker, I could use a little help over here!" You yelled into the coms as another super soldier came barreling at you. You knew this mission was going to be hard, but you weren't expecting there to be this many of them, hydra really had bumped up their numbers. You were about to throw your dagger at him when you felt mjolnir fly past your head taking the man out. "Took you long enough." You huffed leaning over "my apologies my lady, I was a bit detained." He said summoning his hammer back to him. "Well next time..." you were cut off as an explosion rocked the building sending you and thor flying back, you head hitting the wall as parts of the ceiling came down landing over you "y/n! Are you alright!?" You heard Loki yell through the coms "loki...im...." you tried, your head throbbing as your vision darkened feeling yourself slump to the ground.
The next thing you saw were large pieces of rubble being pulled off of you "y/n! Where are you!?" You heard Loki's voice resonate through your mind "loki." You said squinting as the light slowly filtered through the cracks. You lifted your arm, sticking your hand through a small crack waving your fingers when you felt someone grab them "y/n, I'm here, just hold on." You heard loki say as he squeezed your hand before letting go, beginning to remove the rest of the rubble around you "Thor, help me!" He yelled, looking up squinting when a large chunk of concrete was shifted, light shining in your eyes making your head pound harder. "Darling, give me your hand." He said, looking up seeing Loki's panicked face looking back at you.
You reached up grabbing his hand as he pulled you up through the opening, looping his arm under your legs picking you up "loki, I'm fine I can walk." You said rubbing your temples, glancing down seeing your suit covered in dust and blood "hush love, I'm going to get you out of here." He said walking quickly around the rubble. "It wasn't that bad, I'm fi.." you were cut off as his eyes shot to yours "not that bad! What if...if you..." he trailed off looking ahead as he made his way back to the jet, laying you on the gurney you chose not to argue and laid back watching him take the seat next to you, keeping ahold of your hand as the others filed in.
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You arrived back at the tower, being taken directly to med bay to be examined while Loki stood across the room, arms crossed not taking his eyes off of you. He hadn't said a word since you entered the jet, the silence was deafening as he stood watching you "ok y/n Your all set. Luckily you just have a few bumps and scrapes, as well as a minor concussion but nothing to worry about. Just get some rest and you'll be good as new." The doctor said smiling as he walked out. You looked up watching Loki unfold his arms, slowly walking towards you "come y/n, there is something I need to discuss with you." He said holding out his hand.
You hesitantly reached out, grabbing his hand as he interlocked his fingers with yours gently guiding you off the bed. "Loki, i.." he cut you off raising his other hand "we will talk when we get to our chambers." He said walking with you to your shared room, opening the door he waved you ahead as he followed, closing the door behind him. "Please sit love?" He said. You sat on the couch watching him pace back and forth. "Can you say something please?" You asked fidgeting with your fingers when he stopped and looked at you "I am sorry I was upset earlier, it was not your fault I just.." he trailed off sitting on the coffee table in front of you "love, i...I can't lose you." He said grabbing your hands. "I'm fine Loki. You heard the doctor." You said squeezing his hand "yes, but when I couldn't find you...I wasn't sure if you were taken or..." he trailed off again looking down
"Y/n, I do not have the words to tell you how much I love you." He said, sliding to his knees in front of you "I cannot spend another day of my life without making you mine." He said "but I am yours loki." You said watching him hold his hand out, a dagger appearing in a puff of green mist "my love, would you honor me and become my wife...my queen?" He asked gripping the dagger in his hand "i...I don't know what to say." You said feeling your eyes burn "say yes..." he smiled "y..yes! Of course yes!" You smiled, reaching forward wrapping your arms around his neck, pulling back kissing him.
"Love, there is something I would like to do, I know here on Midgard you exchange rings to your betrothed, on Asgard we perform what is called a binding, it will bond you and I together for eternity." He said watching you "would you allow me to perform the bond?" He asked "um...yeah...yes!" You said scooting forward watching him bring the dagger to his hair, pulling a lock to the side he cut though it holding it in his palm as he reached up to your hair behind your ear cutting through it placing it in his palm next to his. He grabbed you hand closing his fist around the two locks of hair "are you ready love?" He asked as you nodded. He closed his eyes, chanting something in a different language as his hand glowed green, opening his palm seeing two braids.
He grabbed one, reaching up behind your ear you felt the braid begin to knit into your hair making your scalp tingle. "It tickles." You laughed seeing him smile as he reached up doing the same with the other braid in his hair. You reached up running your fingers down it smiling "I will get you a ring as well, but in case anything happens to either of us the bond will lead us back to eachother." He said grabbing your hands. "Oh loki...I love you." You said leaning forward pressing your lips to his, you felt his arms wrap around you pulling you to him as you tilted his head deepening the kiss. You slid forward, straddling his lap joining him on the floor, your fingers running through his hair feeling his fingers crawl up your sides, finding the zipper of your suit, slowly sliding it down as his tongue swiped across your bottom lip, parting your lips you swirled your tongue with his, sealing your lips to his.
You moaned into his mouth feeling his cool fingers slip under your suit, slowly pushing it back sliding it down your shoulders. You pulled back, nipping his bottom lip looking into his eyes "loki...I need you." You panted, looking down at his leathers, dipping your finger under the hem at his neck "p..please Loki." You whispered when he closed his eyes, engulfing you both in a green light leaving you bare to eachother. You shivered feeling his fingers glide softly over a bruise on your side "are you sure? You are hurt my love." He said looking up at you "im fine loki." You said grabbing his shoulders "make love to me.." you whispered, pressing your forehead to his "please...loki." you said. "As you wish." He breathed. You wrapped your arm around his middle, the other gripping his hair holding him to you feeling his erection press against your thigh.
You lifted your hips as he reached between you, lining himself up "are you ready love?" He asked, moaning feeling his tip press against you "y..yes..please." You breathed, gently pressing your hips down, the need to feel him in you overwhelming. His arm snaked around your hips, pressing you to him as he guided himself to your entrance, his other hand gripping your hip as you slowly sank down onto him, spreading his knees wider opening you up more as he stretched you to your limit. "God...Loki..." you moaned, digging your nails into his back as he bottomed out. "Your God y/n...I am only...ahh...for you." He panted, holding his forehead to yours his fingers dug into your hips, guiding you up to his tip, his hips lifting to meet yours as you lowered back down.
You threw your head back, feeling his lips latch onto your neck, kissing down to your chest as he slowly thrust his hips up into you. "I...ahhh I love you..." you moaned, the feel of his cock rubbing against your walls making you clench around him. "I...mm...love you t..too..." he panted, his thrusts beginning to speed up as his fingers dug into your skin, adding to the collection of bruises that littered your skin. You tilted your head forward, kissing him deeply, your teeth grazing his lip as you rocked your hips to meet his "c..come with me love..let me...ahhh feel you." He moaned against your lips. You felt the tightening in your stomach, tugging his hair as you came hard around him, digging your nails into his back sure you would leave marks "l..loki!" You yelled, your orgasm washing over you, your vision blurring as the feeling overwhelmed you.
"C..come Loki...aahhh shit...give it all to me." You moaned feeling him twitch inside you as his thrusts became faster....harder. "y..y/n...i...." he groaned, thrusting up hard into you, holding your hips to his as he spilled inside you "h..Holy fuck..." he moaned, screwing his eyes shut laying his head on your chest. He slowly rocked into you, riding you through your highs as he lifted his head meeting your gaze "are you ok? That wasn't too much?" He asked pushing your hair back. "It was perfect...you are perfect." You smiled, gently kissing him. "Would you join me for a shower? I think we both need one." You laughed pulling small piece of concrete from his hair. "Of course my love, but I cannot promise to keep my hands to myself once this beautiful body is lathered in your soaps." He smiled. "I would expect nothing less..my king." You purred kissing his cheek hearing him groan "keep speaking like that and you won't make it to bathroom." He said sternly.
You leaned forward, kissing his neck under his ear "I'm counting on it" you whispered feeling him shiver. "You are playing with fire love." He growled making you shiver "I will gladly let it consume me." You breathed as he stood, wrapping your legs around his hips you grabbed onto his shoulders "allow me to feed the flames." He growled, his hands gripping your thighs as he walked towards the bathroom. "I love you my king." You said kissing his neck "and I love you, my queen." He said smiling up at you. You looked deep into his eyes knowing your were home in his arms.
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daisyachain · 3 months
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Gon and Killua’s relationship usually comes up from Killua’s perspective because he is our narrator. Gon doesn’t think of himself within any kind of narrative framework other than ‘I’m going to find my dad and I’m finding my dad.’ Killua, on the other hand, has been forcibly narrated his entire life. Your Friends Will Betray You and You Will Betray Them. You Are the Zoldyck Heir and You Will Be It. In the Zoldyck arc he lets himself get chained up to fulfil the charade of proper kid—he’s fully versed in the life of appearances (persona) running parallel to and continuously over top of the true life (animus). Killua tells us the HxH story in every chapter where it’s not Kurapika narrating because he’s the one who thinks in terms of story. He can pick out a plot point and think of it as a plot point. He knows that Kurapika must be connected to the Chain User because that’s how it works.
Which means that Gon’s perspective is limited to a few thought bubbles, bits of the Chimera arc, and the Exam arc. It’s any time where he’s not under observation by Kurapika or Killua (the two narrators). We can only piece together what the hell his mindset is because he certainly won’t tell us; he doesn’t see any reason to rationalize his contradictory selves into one coherent narrative. Why would you bother? Killua is his friend because he says he is, he is Killua’s friend for the same reason, simple as.
So: we look into Gon’s relationships. He bonds quickly with others, he bonds strongly, he’s unwavering in his support for people who ‘pass’ and swift in condemnation for people who don’t. He never reevaluates that judgment—it’s disproven or it’s not—except when it comes to Killua.
There’s some texture there. Chimera arc Gon’s break comes in rejecting Killua while also simultaneously keeping him in the On Side category. He can treat Killua with resentment and distance that he never dreams of holding for Ging/Kurapika/any of the other people On Side who could be said to have treated him badly. He’s not Gon’s friend. He’s Gon’s, period. Even as far back as the Yorknew Arc, Gon outright says that Killua isn’t allowed to do the things that he can do/that Gon won’t permit Killua the agency he considers himself to have. Oopsie! A heartwarming moment in context that goes dark later. There is the point of Gon forcibly inserting himself into Kurapika’s plans, but you can argue that he doesn’t impose his will on Kurapika in the same way—he signs up to support him and manoeuvres him out of the murder situation without actually asking him not to kill anyone. It’s Leorio, Melody, even Killua who challenge Kurapika on his decisions more than Gon (at least afairecall…).
Back to the original point of the post: Gon’s worse traits come out with/around Killua as he gets more and more proprietary over him. A declaration of protection in the exam arc turns to insistence on holding Killua to a double standard turns into attacking him for trying to go against his will in any way. Gon sees Killua as his left hand. This works out for them great because Killua wants to be Gon’s left hand. When it goes sideways…the ending to the Alluka arc is the only possible way it can go. Killua has chosen of his own volition to leave. Gon can’t maintain his own illusion of Killua-my-Shadow any longer.
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SxF - Missions 30 and 34 ·· Agent Nightfall
Warning: this contains scenes from the manga
After having analyzed characters like Twilight and Yor in the past, I think it's a good time to talk a little bit about other characters. I clarify that this analysis is made under my own point of view, based on the content of the Spy x Family manga, which is currently on the air. So you are free to express your opinion differently. That said, let's start
Context
Nightfall's character has her first appearance during mission 30 who is being assigned to a mission alongside agent Twilight. During her conversation with Handler Nightfall shows interest in the Strix mission, especially for the one who occupies the role of the "Forger wife", in a sudden request to "change mothers". Which Handler denies, as at this point it is unnecessary and risky for the mission. Which makes Nightfall say some peculiar words, hinting if the current mother "abandons her role" In that instant we discover the fame that Fiona has in the agency as a ruthless woman who does not waste any opportunity to gain/steal merits. She cold expressions make her come across as terrifying and ruthless
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Development:
Later, Fiona finally introduces herself to Yor Forger, while Loid and Anya went for a walk, an opportunity the spy took advantage of by using Anya's magnifying glass as an excuse. After receiving a cup of tea, Fiona hints at a part of her intentions, "to usurp Yor Briar's role as mother" using the pretext that she may become a hindrance to the mission.
It is here that Nightfall begins her strategy of intimidation, openly using arguments to destabilize Yor's role as mother. An argument that at first doesn't work given that Yor is happy with Anya, her energetic personality is enjoyable to her and the two spend most of their time together. However, as we all know Yor is very insecure to the point of always minimizing her functions, an advantage that Fiona takes advantage of to "lie". This is when we see the first red alert, in which Fiona comments that Loid is in the habit of complaining about his wife at work. But this is interrupted by the arrival of Loid, Anya and Bond at home.
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Clearly Twilight sets off alarm bells when she sees Nightfall at home, for one thing it's against agency policy, plus this could mean "something serious is going on." Starting with a conversation in code, between the agents. Nightfall does not hesitate to question Twilight's performance and strategy. Which obviously didn't sit well with the spy. His displeasure becomes more obvious when Nightfall hints at Yor's bad job in the family, since according to her, Yor Briar should be in charge of everything.
Fortunately, Anya can read minds and shed light on what is really going on and is:
Nightfall is madly in love with Agent Twilight.
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It's at this point in the plot that it all makes sense. Nightfall is in love with Twilight and desperately wants him to want her to be his wife. But not just for the mission, but to someday be the real wife of Westalis' top spy.
Continuing with the fake visit: We see that Fiona has a great insistence on belittling Yor Briar, clouding any objective judgment. When Yor pours lattes, for Loid she stresses that Twilight likes black coffee. Her paranoia worsens as she sees Loid pour milk into his coffee, and she ends up shielding her argument with "this is just doing it for his role" (It's all due to his disastrous stomach ulcers). This whole situation takes a turn, when Anya spills her cocoa, triggering Fiona's negative thoughts towards the girl. Willing to apply torture methods that will make Anya an efficient girl for the mission.
Anya displaying her acting skills takes the opportunity to declare her love for her mother and her efficiency to clean the cocoa, and unleash her absolute rejection of Fiona as her mom. Finally, after Yor vows to do his best to clean the cocoa for good. Loid (Twilight) makes an important statement:
You alredy work hard enough, …. just look how much Anya cares about you...
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Here, we have our second "watershed". While the Forger family has a special moment. We go inside Fiona.
In a brief flashback, we discover that Nightfall was Twilight's student in the past. Who was the one who told her "not to show her real emotions at any time". She in her unbridled admiration confesses to us that she has meticulously studied Twilight during her other characters. She knows in detail her "fake smile", and what she can actually see is that Twilight's smile is genuine, and a part of her emotions are being externalized. Her discomfort, she goes to the point of quickly leaving as if she is trying to run away, but Twilight intrigued goes after her, and in a melancholy scene.
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An exciting tennis match:
To be brief about the tennis match. We know that Twilight and Fiona are assigned to a new side mission. Bypassing everything involved in the match, we can focus on the interactions of the two agents.
For starters, one of Fiona's (somewhat silly) strategies is to use the cover of the two as husband and wife. Which oddly enough, makes Twilight so uncomfortable that he himself questions why?. Then, that one reveals that he was dabbling in sports with his family, which indicates that Twilight was playing around with Yor. Nightfall obviously dislikes this, and assures herself that Twilight will see her as perfect, leading him to fall in love with her.
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Each match can be summed up as: Both agents are monsters on the court, as their skills allow them to crush their opponents despite their opponents' blatant cheating, and Nightfall is desperate to prove how athletic and efficient she is, delusional with the idea that her mentor is watching her. As they head into a break, Nightfall finally gets an approach from Twilight. But far from being a romantic move, it's a wake-up call for her not to let her guard down and watch her integrity. She is clearly going overboard and letting her emotions get the better of her. She, unable to resist Twilight's touch, acts as if she is rejecting him and shoots him a murderous look that the spy interprets as contempt. She shudders at the idea that Twilight shows genuine concern for her.
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Then, in Chapter 33. Twilight congratulates Nightfall on her excellent performance, which obviously pulls at the heartstrings of this enamored agent. But in the face of Nightfall's carelessness, Twilight saves her by using her body as a shield against a fake bullet and the use of a bulletproof vest. Finally, both agents complete the mission and congratulate each other.
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Declaration of war (love)
Already in chapter 34, we start a scene a little sad for Nightfall. When she is disappointed to see that all her performance in the mission did not make Twilight fall in love with her and she does not see her as "the perfect wife". This causes her to challenge Yor Forger, who is with his daughter in the park to a "friendly" tennis match. All for the purpose of humiliating Yor in front of Twilight; Yor who understands the subtext behind that request accepts the game for fear of being reported to the SSS and losing her fake marriage.
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And well, we all know the result. The brutal downfall of the agent and her hopes of taking down Yor are so insignificant in the face of Yor Forger's monstrous supremacy. Ending with Nightfall and her outrageous tears and a hilarious scene escape.
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My personal opinion:
I wanted to make a summary of those important scenes so I could explain my point regarding Nightfall/Fiona's character. I tried not to compare her with Yor, because I want to be neutral and not let my preference for her cloud me and be as unbiased as possible with each character. Those comparisons I'll reserve when I do an analisi of the love triangle.
Now:
Nightfall's character strikes me as interesting and an important addition to the cast of Spy x Family characters. Not only is she a WISE agent, but she was also Twilight's student and reveals interesting details about the character outside of Twilight's insider perspective. Both characters are clearly close, as a mentor and mentee can be, as it is from that bond that learning comes.
Although, she fulfills the typical function of "being the love rival" and the character who is "madly in love with one of the main characters". Her weight in the story can be felt, because thanks to her, Yor's feelings can be explored from several angles, and being a WISE agent she manages to be at times a Twilight ally and Yor's antagonist. As far as I like her character, she gives us funny moments that go perfectly with the story, without falling into a predictable love drama that feels stuffed or unnecessary. His appearances really contribute to the development of the events.
Mission sabotage:
I've seen person make comments of "Fiona would never sabotage a Twilight mission", which in my opinion is not true. This whole arc was a sabotage of the Strix mission.
If we put ourselves in Fiona's perspective from the beginning of chapter 30. Yor Briar should not be considered a threat, the whole act of "changing mother" was just to justify her desperate longing to be Twilight's wife, hoping that during their cohabitation he will fall in love with her. Ignoring that in the eyes of the neighbors, society and Eden Academy, Yor is Anya's mother. Therefore, a sudden change would put the Strix Mission at enormous risk and thus Twilight's identity. For starters, Loid could be left as a cheating man who was surely having an affair with another woman, until finally divorcing his second wife. In and of itself, being a widowed man with a second marriage while raising a daughter is not well regarded by society or by the school. Now a third wife would bring him under social scrutiny.
Also, the way she tries to break their relationship with lies like "Loid keeps complaining about his wife" are fatal to Twilight's mission. We all know the spy's efforts to appear to be a happy family, this kind of lie breaks that image being a breach of the agreement Yor and Loid have. If Yor were a little more sensible and less insecure, she could have claimed Loid for making those comments, as it breaks their happy family image and puts her at risk of being reported by the SSS, and that's what the fake marriage is supposed to be about in the first place. That would make Twilight realize that Nightfall was sabotaging her mission, causing unnecessary trouble..
Obviously this didn't happen thanks to Yor literally believing any negative comments about her even if they come from a total stranger, and not being able to discuss these issues with Loid for fear of upsetting him.
Also Fiona seems to see Anya as a "deficient object", who just gets in the way of the mission and has not been disciplined enough. Considering very aggressive methods that would surely make Anya's life the worst. Anya has already suffered a lot, sees herself as a freak with powers, and currently feels that her father only wants her for the mission. If Anya had a mother who treated her the same way, her school and home life might be worse. She might even consider running away again, further hindering the mission.
I think Nightfall is a good agent as long as she is only with Twilight or without him, even if her methods are trickery and traps, like any spy. But when her love for Twilight is threatened all her judgment disappears.
However:
Already speaking in regards to her feelings:
I think Fiona's complex is the way she interprets and channels her love for Twilight, I don't know if her feelings are really truly pure or if she's just selfishly trying to fill a void inside herself through him. The line that divides adorable and disturbing is a thin one. On the one hand, I want to feel the purity of her feelings, I really feel bad for her when her heart seems to be being squeezed. It's impossible to get mad at her for having these feelings, as it's not her fault. It's fine the way she admires and respects Twilight, but her admiration somehow becomes more of an ideal or a standard, dehumanizing Twilight himself.
To my mind, Nightfall's love is more like the love you have for a trophy or object. It is something that she wants to possess, exclusively for you through merit, she seeks in a thousand and one ways to have the requirements that make you the best of the best, eliminating any competitor or obstacle that stands in her way and therefore, will make you worthy of that prize or in this case, make her worthy of that person (Twilight). This is reinforced in the way she tries to demonstrate her excellent spy skills during the missions.
Nightfall seems to be in love with Twilight, the spy, the man of a thousand faces who can efficiently accomplish each of his missions. Twilight represents an ideal for his agency and for her, completely forgetting that behind that spy there is a man of flesh and bones who also makes mistakes and sometimes does not know how to handle situations. Nightfall generally blames other people for mission mistakes, and considers that no one is worthy of Twilight in any way, and wants to prove that she can be worthy even if it means bursting with exhaustion doing a thousand things or if she has to psychologically assault a girl to be efficient to the needs of the Strix operation.
But she completely ignores the man and Twilight's feelings. To begin with, the Twilight of the beginning, of the first chapter, the one she meets, is not interested in a relationship. In fact, the story itself has not shown that Twilight has serious problems relating sincerely to other people, and her instinct is to take advantage of every situation. Add to that his rugged past and his fear of being hurt. That Nightfall supports and enhances Twilight's cold personality is counterproductive. Far from helping him reconnect with his feelings it only makes that armor of a distant man stronger.
While, she declares that she is willing to "dig up" Twilight's heart and admits to being equally attracted to that soft, sentimental man. The way she wants to force that to happen, and be the one to get that merit falls into selfishness. After all, only Twilight himself can decide whether or not he wants to open his heart, even if he does it unconsciously. Twilight confessing to Yor that he has been lonely all his life, feeling envious of his relationship with Yuri, or confessing about his mother were voluntary acts born from his heart. Yor never forced him or made it her goal to know about him. A mistake Fiona falls into, waiting for Twilight to want to open up to her.
In the end…
I think it's interesting how Nightfall represents an entire antithesis of Yor's character. This is visually noticeable in her color palette, both in her hair and wardrobe; and it is equally reflected in their personalities.
Despite her cold and heartless appearance, she is at heart a tender, sweet woman, thirsty to experience romantic love. Nightfall, unlike her master, is inexpressive but never denies her own feelings, she clearly feels a powerful romantic attraction towards Twilight.
From my point of view it seems to me that Nightfall is actually a very insecure woman, on par with Yor. The difference is that she hides under that cold and ruthless cloak. She strives to prove that she is "worthy", and longs to achieve an ideal of perfection which she projects onto Twilight. She seems to be in love because of what "he represents" hoping, someday, to obtain the love of a (seemingly) ideal man, to prove that she is the only one worthy of achieving it.
Rather than a romance, it seems like a quest to prove something to herself, and she selected Twilight as the trophy. However, I find it impossible to speculate the origin of this complex, since we do not know her past, nor why she became a spy. In fact, it is clearly inferred that Nightfall only seeks peace, to give it to Twilight, and not because she has a true self-motivation that makes her grow as a person.
I think this is one of the fan favorite arcs, and one we are looking forward to when the second part of the anime is released. Likewise Fiona's character is very fun and interesting, and even though it irritates me the way she doesn't respect Yor even as a rival. Still, I think she's a character with potential for future development, and while I hope she continues to give us comedic moments. I also hope to see more growth and evolution in her.
And in the end to know the resolution her feelings will have and how they impact Twiliht and Yor's relationship, especially if the identities are revealed.
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I hope you have enjoyed this long analysis! Please let me know if you would like me to analyze other chapters or other characters!
Here you can see my analysis of chapter 35
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What is your opinion?
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Round 1 Match 24: Should Have Been At The Club Tournament
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Propaganda below the cut.
Propaganda for Moonwatcher:
(Note: Moonwatcher's propaganda is split into two due to Tumblr's character limit. The second part will be added in a reblog.)
(TW: Child Neglect, Manipulation, and Murder.)
Moonwatcher has been physically neglected for days on end since the day that she was born by her mother, Secretkeeper. So much so that she literally had to hunt for her own food as a young child within the rainforest. Which is a potentially dangerous environment to live in, due to it having many dangers and hazards within it, like quicksands, poisonous frogs, anacondas, crocodiles, jaguars, etc. within it. And when she was no longer being physically neglected within the rainforest, the closest dragons that she had to live by is her own tribe that hates her for living in a different and healthier environment than them.
And when Moon is being dropped into the school that she’s now going to attend, it’s revealed that Secretkeeper isn’t that great of a mother towards Moon and negative impacts Moon before she joins the school. Because Secretkeeper is shown to be ignorant to and/or not understand why her daughter is so anxious (For some reason, despite her being the one to neglect her daughter, and Secretkeeper knowing that Moon’s tribe, the NightWings, are awful towards her and Moon.)
Secretkeeper also assumes that Moonwatcher feels “terrible” and is “miserable”, (solely) because of the fact that Moon has physic powers. Secretkeeper is also mentioned to care more about Moon’s reputation amongst other dragons, without even considering Moon’s comfortability living and being around them. Which is also shown by Secretkeeper telling Moon to hide her physic powers in a negative “Mom of an autistic child^TM” type of way. For example: “I know being [autistic] is terrible, but if you keep it secret, you can still have a normal life. No one needs to know that you’re not a normal dragon. Understand?” - Moon Rising, Graphic Novel, Page 10. * the words “a mindreader” is substituted with the word autistic. Which can also be shown by Secretkeeper possibly putting her worries onto Moon by telling and/or implying to Moon that, no matter what, she shouldn’t tell her powers to anyone, or else they’ll reject or hate (and maybe even want to kill you) if she tells them about her powers.
Which honestly isn’t a great thing for Moon - who’s already a anxious and traumatized dragon - to hear from her mother, in order for her to have bonds with others at school. Which is shown to negatively impact Moon, to the point that she literally didn’t tell a literal murder plot within her school to other - and tried to figure it out herself - out of fear of her powers, and also resulted in her to unintentionally be more easily manipulated by a certain someone.
Speaking of that certain someone, Moon has also been manipulated by a 2,006 year old dragon, Darkstalker, while she was attending the school. With possibly some of the ways that Darkstalker did so is by “loveboming” Moonwatcher by stating that her powers are a gift and talking with her, and also stating stuff to Moon in attempts to isolate her away from other that she’s befriending in order for Moon to only be with Darkstalker.
Propaganda for Nobara Kugisaki:
She should be out living her life enjoying herself instead of being walloped around by evil sorcerers and getting extremely physically harmed! She's only a high school student! She's badass but she deserves to have fun!
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I liked the movie - it was enjoyable, I like seeing cinematic fanfiction of my favourite guys. The animation was gorgeous, the songs were bops, the lighting was a stand out and it had subtleties to the story and art that can be analysed. Saying that, was it great? No.
The plot was a bit jumbled so now allow me to fix it in some small ways because I don’t know how to shut up.
The Opening of the movie works well. It establishes Marinette as far too anxious to stand up for herself. She is a character who at this point doesn’t see herself as worthy of anything more. She sings her song about ‘what if I was confident, what would I do’ but she doesn’t make a move to be confident after it, she doesn’t believe she can be at the moment.
I’d have Alya already be her friend but Marinette doesn’t realise it (Again she’s anxious and feels worthless). Maybe a line like ‘You don’t have to stick up for me anymore, Alya, we’re no longer project partners.’ And Alya rebuffs her saying ‘Girl, you’re my full time project. I’m sticking with you.”
(This goes on - continues below cut to save your dash)
She bumps in Chloé again and runs away, like in the movie, and finds Adrien in the library. The only thing I’d change in that interaction is Adrien pulls her away from some falling books rather than helps her stand afterward. Adrien is then demonstrating his kindness and his heroic qualities. Marinette develops her crush. I like the fact the book that Marinette holds in the movie has a cat on it, foreshadowing as you call it, Adrien’s role, so a fallen book would be shown to have cat on it as Adrien puts them away. He asks offhandly is she’s alright, Marinette buffers, getting out word soup and he leaves. Noting her strangeness like in the movie.
Marinette getting her miraculous works already so it’s just Adrien’s I’d change. I’d have him be at the theatre still, notice the strange light and a cat stuck in a bucket. Once he helps it out, he see’s the ring. Again, he’s kind and curious so he helps the cat. He’s already got his saviour moment earlier but this helps further it.
Ladynoir’s first fight works already and the denial stuff later so our next change comes at the fair. Instead of deciding to be Ladybug again, Marinette runs at first from danger but see’s her father in trouble (or Alya and Nino) has her song and saves him. He’s like ‘You are so brave - like my daughter. Is she alright?’ Ladybug’s like ‘Anyone is brave with a mask, random citizen I do not know. Your daughter is safe, trust me’ and leaves him somewhere safely. Cue second Ladynoir fight which again works.
We montage and I’m not smart enough to figure out an alternative to it that isn’t just more movie run time. I’d have moments of Marinette helping her friends like when she talks to Adrien about his mom interspersed through the Ladynoir bonding. Her succeeding at gymnastics and her classes is one way the movie demonstrates how she’s growing in confidence but I think just one moment of her with Alya, talking like friends at a crossing and she saves her from oncoming traffic or something like that. She’s more than just more confident as Marinette now, she’s heroic and capable in her everyday life.
Pretty much everything up to the final battle works for me, that’s where I’d make some bigger changes while keeping the ending. Theme and character arc talk first though.
Our running themes at the moment are still ‘stronger together’ from the unchanged Ladynoir bits and ‘don’t let fear stop you’ as Marinette’s lesson to learn. There’s also the other message I see the movie attempted with Marinette still not feeling as confident without the mask. That’s why I have the line above, to try to strengthen it before it’s brought up in the finale. Also maybe add in something after Adrien rejects her that ‘No one would reject Ladybug but everyone rejects Marinette’ as she mopes about it. Adrien and Gabriel’s lessons are a lot to do with love. Adrien opens up through loving Ladybug and Gabriel succumbs to a toxic love to his wife at the cost of his son. His resolution would still be realising in a physical way, not just mentally, he’s hurting Adrien with his fruitless pursuit.
We have our third act break up kinda with the finale fight. They aren't working together to be stronger together. Chat Noir goes off to fight Hawkmoth, leaving behind Ladybug. The fight results in the Eiffel's Towers destruction - but from something Hawkmoth does, not Chat Noir. Ladybug is trapped by debris, Hawkmoth approaching and Chat realises the error of his way. He saves her by discovering his cataclysm to free her and they have an exchange like this while it happens. Ladybug, "You came back, I thought you were mad at me?" And Chat Noir "I can never be mad at you. It's like what you said, were stronger together. Even if we can't be together together. I will always save you. Cataclysm" or something like that.
They fight together against Hawkmoth but he's stronger. She fails and her miraculous is stolen. With that added power Chat Noir doesn't stand a chance. It's looking like they'll lose, Chat Noir near unconsciousness in Hawkmoth's grasp and Marinette tossed to the side. Marinette is defeated as she believes she’s nothing without the mask and she doesn’t even have the security of the earrings anymore. She looks around at a destroyed Paris, seeing what it used to be and the people she knows are possibly hurt or gone.
At the point Marinette as herself has saved Master Fu’s life, bettered her friends lives and demostrated courage as her civilian form, she just hasn’t realised it yet. I think the film attempted this parallel as her saving of Chat Noir by grabbing him mirrored her saving of Master Fu. But I think more can be done to hammer it home.
She turns from seeing the destroyed Paris to seeing Chat Noir in trouble, his transformation deteriorating. Like how she as to act as Ladybug to save her father (or Alya and Nino.) and act as Marinette to save Master Fu, she acts as someone between both her timid old self and her confident alter ego to save Chat Noir. She drags him away, getting the ‘don’t touch him’ line there instead.
Hawkmoth has no reason to recognise Marinette but as she drags Chat Noir away, his transformation fails. Hawkmoth sees its his son lying there unconscious and realises the error of his ways. Seeing this as a private moment, Marinette scuttles away with the discarded butterfly. Adrien completes his arc by opening his heart back up to his father who’d pulled away, forgiving him for the harm he’s done. Something in their exchange that Marinette can still hear sparks an idea in her. Love.
As she hands back the butterfly miraculous to Master Fu, she asks if he’d known who Hawkmoth was when choosing Adrien. Master Fu says somethings can never be known, that the miraculous work in mysterious ways and maybe that’s why Adrien was the perfect candidate. Their familial love was what was needed, that more than just Hawkmoth was defeated today. A broken family was healed. She then asks what about Paris and Master Fu reminds her of her miraculous’s main power. Creation.
Putting this together with her realisation that love heals, she discovers the cure.
The ending would go the same except I WOULDN’T CUT BEFORE THE KISS. I’d also add as Marinette pulls up to the ball she’s watching a video press conference and while we can’t hear what’s being said, it’s Gabriel speaking with ‘public apology for wrongdoings, fines to go to charity as a tagline’. Realistically since Marinette had fixed the damage to Paris and Gabriel is rich, a slap on the wrist is all he’d get.
There are issues with my take most likely but writing this has also helped me better understand the movie and appreciate it more. You could also completely rework the movie from the ground up but I wanted to make it stick to what they were going for with things I’d think would held the messages of love, stronger together and conquering fear being more clear.
Anything I didn’t mention that happens in the film is something to keep so read this with the understand those scenes still happen. These are just changes to certain bits. Also I’d take out Plagg farting and use that time to further Adrien’s loneliness, detachment for his father and also how he starts to move past his pain and open up to Ladybug, Marinette and even Nino. (That’s something I forgot to mention.) He’d talk to Plagg about this stuff and Plagg would act similarly to his show counterpart, being aloof and cheese obsessed but giving Adrien the ear to finally vent things to and a way to show he is feeling more open.
Anyways I want to say again I love the movie as a fan, but I can see its issues. The show has the advantage of being able to run for long enough that its patches of confusing writing can be corrected later. The movie had to get it right first try. I do like what they did with the character’s, but again I said it somewhere else; They’re different interpretations of the base concept of Parisian heroes that both the show and movie stem from. One isn’t necessarily better than the other or render the other pointless. And I’m not here to discuss that debate.
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Kiznaiver - Anime Review via Polyamorous Lens
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I watched Kizaiver long before I knew what polyamory was and ever since I learned this series is one that sometimes comes up as having polyamorous themes. So I rewatched it to scan it for how pro or anti polyamorous it is.
A basic overview of the series is that a group of teenagers are experimented on and altered so that they share each other’s pain receptors. It is hard to bring this series up without mentioning the Netflix series “Sense 8” as it has an extremely similar concept. Course the execution of this plot is very different. As a minor spoiler, eventually they not only feel each other’s physical pain but also emotional pain, especially in terms of heartbreak as affections are confessed and rejected. 
Let me talk about the negatives first or the anti-polyamory themes. In the end, the romantic relationships are pretty harshly monogamous, although I could argue one execution of such is at least fairly cute in a way that a viewer could imagine a non-monogamous solution after the series ends. Mid-way through the series it implores a series of lover triangles and other shapes as you get a complicated diagram character A likes character B who likes Character C who likes Character D and so with none of these affections going the other way. While they learn to maintain friendships though them, they are still fiercely monogamous and protective of their endgame romantic relationships.
Now that sounds like a lot of negatives that paints this show as a very pro-monogamy only show. But on the other hand it does touch a lot upon the concept of close friendships between an umber of people that are more than friends but not quite lovers. I believe at one point they might have even said this kind of relationship might be stronger and more important than lovers. While the “showing” of the rest of the series kind of contradicts that “telling” it is still an ice concept. As a representation of a platonic polycule this actually succeeds quite a bit. Despite romantic pair-bonding being involved it is very clear about how all of the main characters do end up really caring about each other in a chosen family sort of way. A lot of anime has strong themes of “friendship” but this series really does seem like it puts forth a legit effort to show something more than your typical friendship and show a relationship structure that is slightly outside the norm. Throw in the supernatural sci-fi element of being able to literally feel the pain of every one else in their group and I think you do get some large polycule vibes weaved into the series.
My verdict is that the series will disappoint if you are looking for romantic non-monogamy it does tell a great story of strong comradery that transcendence simple friendship between a fairly large group of characters. Putting the frustrating romantic drama aside you do get a wholesome story of multiple platonic bonding which may be relatable to aromantic polyamorous folks. Overall it is also just a very enjoyable series to watch and has strong emotional weight to it.
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