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wackus-bonkus-maximus · 4 months
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Same anon who just asked about why you placed Adrien as a 7 instead of a 2, only to look deeper in the reblogs of your ML enneagram post and see you already answered it haha!
In friendly defense of 2!Adrien, I’d argue that his reactions to being stressed coming off as more of a 7 rather than a 2 is actually a perfect reflection of the effects of his abuse; it’s fear that drives his non-confrontation tendencies rather his own nature. I think Risk highlighted that a bit in revealing how Adrien does desire confrontation, even if he doesn’t act on it.
(I have always found it interesting to consider the role that trauma/neurodivergency plays in shaping a character’s personality, since it’s one of the flaws I feel most personality assessments can’t really account for.)
I also think Chat’s arguments with LB were more like to be confrontational than avoidant (thinking of the times he’s called her out and his romantic pursuit being the primary indicators), up until she became the Guardian. So then with S4, I’d consider it to be a gradual relationship shift that leads to Chat no longer feeling safe and secure enough in his position to confront her the way he once did, which is why he only tries a bit in Kuro Neko before running, and then doesn’t try at all in Strikeback.
I hope this doesn’t come off as too preachy or anything, just wanted to share my 2¢! Cause either way you slice it, your Adrien has always been brilliantly written and incredibly in-character to me, so you’ve clearly got a rock solid understanding of his character. ❤️
hello november anon and sorry for the delay! thank you so much for the ask and also for going back and looking through my prev posts. you know my teacher heart loves it when you do the readings! 😌 also you're definitely not the only one who believes adrien is a 2 rather than a 7! and while i know there are good arguments for both sides, i'll explain in depth my position on adrien's personality.
part 1 of the ask:
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so here are the reasons i think adrien IS an enneagram type 7
adrien's motivation seems like that of a 7 to me: he wants to experience everything and be satisfied in every way he can. if he had a disney princess "i want" song, it would be "i want to go to school, i want to make friends, i want adventure in the great wide somewhere., i want to have fun."
the literal first shot of him in the show (if we use origins as a starting point) is adrien running away. nathalie asks him to please reconsider, he knows what his father wants, and adrien says, "but this is what i want to do." according to the enneagram institute, "sevens do not see themselves as the center of a community or family, but as members of a free-floating band of fellow adventurers whose own enjoyment is enhanced by being with others." going to school and having a new experience with new people is what's going to enhance adrien's enjoyment of life - not being the center of his family unit or the apple of his father's eye.
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a 2's motivation would be to be as loved as possible and to make themselves neeed by those they most care about. while adrien definitely shows a desire to be loved and needed, especially by ladybug, i think his primary desire is for experience, and it's this from which all his actions- not just characteristics - are based. take for example his reaction to getting his miraculous vs marinette's (also in origins):
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adrien is excited and intrigued and ready to go, as a 7 would be when offered a new experience - and a new way to satisfy their desire to try everything. marinette, as a 1, is quite the opposite: she is being put in a situation where she must do something right or fail, and therefore is stressed tf out. while marinette's motivation to be good/perfect fuels her anxious reaction, adrien's motivation to experience everything and be satisfied fuels his thrilled and slightly reckless reaction. that's why he charges out into battle without listening to all the instructions; his motivation was to escape the restraints of his life and try something new.
in growth, enneagram 7's take on the positive traits of 5's. in stress, they take on the negative traits of 1's. i have seen adrien exhibit these behaviors throughout the show on many occasions!
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according to the enneagram institute, "Sevens have fear about their inner world. There are feelings of pain, loss, deprivation, and general anxiety that Sevens would like to stay clear of as much as possible. To cope with these feelings, Sevens keep their minds occupied with exciting possibilities and options— as long as they have something stimulating to anticipate, Sevens feel that they can distract themselves from their fears." therefore, while one can argue that adrien's wealth of knowledge and fun facts is a result of everything gabriel has forced him to learn (mandarin, piano, fencing, medieval horse colors), we can assume he at least was interested in it - and that seeking new knowledge like a 5 kept him from lingering in his sadness.
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"i'll help you learn mandarin marinette" "i'll show you how to fence marinette" "most people think henry iv's white horse was white my lady" "do you need subtitles my lady i speak several languages"
now as to how adrien moves to the low parts of type 1 during the show: i think the main examples of this are the instances he adopts rigid, critical, and judgemental characteristics, which is potentially unpleasant for anyone who has to be around him.
first up, adrien's akumatized forms: chat blanc, ephemeral, celesticat
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i bring up the akumas because, though adrien isn't in his right mind (by hawkmoth's akumas), they are examples of adrien being in extreme stress.
as chat blanc, adrien wants to either right the world or destroy it for being wrong - the critical supreme judgement an unhealthy 1 is capable of. he lashes out when contradicted, and is quite ruthless even to marinette, who he loves, in the name of executing judgement.
as ephemeral, adrien seeks to control time. (however, this is probably the weakest example because adrien was being amok-controlled in this instance and was acting on shadow moth's will, not his own.)
i include celesticat because while this is an example of a "good" akumatization, adrien was still under so much stress that an akumatization was able to take place. yet even while being in "good" stress, adrien still shows characteristics of 1: perfectionism, righteousness, taking control of the situation. he literally turns into a pure white angelic being, an embodiment of perfection. it's what he believes he has to do in order to salvage the situation. it's one of the more healthier moves from 7 to 1 i have seen depicted in media and is entirely plausible concept under the enneagram's theory! this just goes to show the depth and richness of his character.
next, we will discuss adrien's various alter egos:
cat walker
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i've said it before and i'll say it again; cat walker is another move from 7 -> 1.
as chat noir, adrien is at the height of his 7-ness. he enjoys the freedom that his miraculous powers and secret identity gives him, and uses it as a means of escape from the regular constraints of his life and obligations. then in kuro neko when ladybug slights him, she denies him the fulfilment and satisfaction in reaching his full potential as chat noir (e.g., being of equal importance on the team as her) that he should be allowed. of course he becomes hurt and angry! she's stepping on his core desire in life.
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according to enneagram coach dr. tom lahue (my favorite enneagram guy ((also a 7)), "type 7's typically deal with anger by trying to avoid it or deflect it. that really is the anger type of a 7 - deflective. deflecting things away." that's what i believe cat walker is: a stress reaction, a deflection of his anger with ladybug. he deflects his painful emotions into something he thinks is positive; a new start.
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adrien is usually so joyful and optimistic, but this was a huge blow for him. dr. tom says the best way for a 7 to handle this anger is to be "real and genuine" when coming to terms with it, what does adrien do instead? he turns to a new alter ego. he chases the experience of fulfillment, only he does so by adopting a persona who is serious and perfectionist. obviously this was neither what adrien or ladybug needed, and that is because cat walker is a stress reaction who adrien cannot sustain without continued levels of unhealthy self-denial. this is the hardest he has gone to 1 in the show and what it took to snap him out of it was a level of reflection, analysis, and objectivity (that this was an unhealthy behavior) indicative of a type 5 - and which shows his progression to growth.
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2. aspik
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one can argue that aspik is more proof of adrien being a 2 than a 7 actually, as his motivations for becoming aspik were to woo ladybug. however, the stress response of a type 2 is to move to the negative qualities of type 8, which is to lash out at those who they believe have taken them for granted.
according to the enneagram institute,
"Average to unhealthy Twos seek validation of their worth by obeying their superego’s demands to sacrifice themselves for others. They believe they must always put others first and be loving and unselfish if they want to get love. The problem is that “putting others first” makes Twos secretly angry and resentful, feelings they work hard to repress or deny. Nevertheless, they eventually erupt in various ways, disrupting Twos’ relationships and revealing the inauthenticity of many of the average to unhealthy Two’s claims about themselves and the depth of their “love.”
as aspik, adrien was never resentful of ladybug for taking him for granted or making him feel rejected. as aspik, his goal was never to make himself needed by her. as aspik, he maintained some extreme levels of optimism that ignored the rational conclusion that he should give up for several thousand time loops. as aspik, he was able to let go and displace his hopes in himself to someone else - and run off to his responsibility as chat noir with high spirits (though i'm sure the ladrien kiss helped)
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3. griffe noire
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this has got to be the most stressful stress reaction i've seen on adrien. and you might say "but wackus he looks nothing like a type 1" and i say "JUST HOLD ON
going back to dr. tom's analysis on type 7's in anger, he says, "7's typically express their anger indirectly, e.g., through sarcasm, like 5's - like 6's sometimes... but they quickly try to move on and reframe into a more positive way." griffe noire, rather than telling jokes and puns to lighten the mood, mocks and ridicules poor toxinelle who has not convinced me she doesn't have a crush on him. 1's actually do the same thing when they are unhealthy; they criticize and blame and nag others for not being up to par, and by directing his anger at his situation onto toxinelle, griffe noire is doing the same.
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dr tom goes on to say, "in some cases [7's] might take impulsive actions to try to free themselves from this feeling of being trapped... engaging in frenetic escapism in behaviors or addictions or substances to try to distance themselves from those who are frustrated with them... or their own anger/pain in life." we have seen griffe noire engage in multiple frenetic behaviors while running amok (haha), all of which are clearly attempts to redirect his pain and anger/ keep it from consuming him. for example, griffe noire takes chat noir's cataclysm to the chest as though it's a game. for another, he openly threatens to destroy the entire world with his super cataclysm. and of course, he is constantly abusing his miraculous by over-exerting his powers in a way only adults should. yet all of these destructive behaviors are still adrien's way of escaping his normal life, and his everyday pain. it's almost like his self-destruction is his addiction.
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and yet by the end, it took the introspection of type 5 for griffe noire to realize that his behavior was unhealthy. he observed, he listened, he showed an inquisitiveness that brought him back from the brink. and he also upgraded his outfit so if that isn't a type 7 path to growth i don't know what is!
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now i know i won't have convinced everybody, so i just want to drop this section from the enneagram institute's text on misidentifying 2's and 7's:
Although both types are gregarious and enjoy being with people, their interpersonal styles are noticeably different. The Two... would like to be the heart and soul of a family or community, the best friend or confidant everyone comes to for attention, advice, and approval. Twos want to be significant to others and on intimate terms with them, although sometimes they go too far, meddling too much and being too solicitous to make sure they are needed.
adrien is not focused on being needed by anybody, not even ladybug (although due to his romantic interest in her, i can understand why people think so). being the heart and soul of the team is not what motivates him; primarily, i think he just likes having all the experiences he wouldn't otherwise get to have without being chat noir.
By contrast... Sevens do not see themselves as the center of a community or family, but as members of a free-floating band of fellow adventurers whose own enjoyment is enhanced by being with others.... Sevens may thus exhibit a certain generosity, although their motives may well have less to do with helping needier friends than with making sure that they themselves have a good time by having others around.
this isn't to say that adrien is just focused on having a "good time." i see that his enjoyment is amplified when he is surrounded by people he loves and cares for. he is motivated to have good experiences, and be fulfilled by trying everything, and becoming close to people and forming loving relationships is just a happy byproduct of that.
now there ARE several caveats to my analysis which provide potential arguments against typing adrien as a 7 - and which i can touch on briefly before i close:
adrien's abuse: i understand that trauma and anxiety can affect personality deeply. i'm not qualified to speak on this, or on how it should or shouldn't affect any personality type. i can only say that i think adrien has acted pretty consistently under stress as far as the show depicts
inconsistent characterization: i think we can all agree that ml won't be winning any awards for its consistency in characterization. which i know sounds contradictory to what i just said about how it depicts adrien under stress, but i think there IS a lot of discrepancy in this show and over the course of 9 years with different teams of writers all trying to execute one person's vision, inconsistencies are bound to happen.
thank you again for the ask, anon, and thank YOU if you have read all the way through! tell me your thoughts, if you make it down here - whether you agree/disagree or are just nodding along and letting me indulge in my enneagram brainrot! this is an entirely in-good-faith interpretation of mine, and i'd love to see other opinions if you have them!
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journalofanoldsoul · 10 months
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Enneagram Types (Part 2)
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Here’s a description of each Enneagram type, including their core motivations, fears, desires, and typical behaviors, along with information about their wings:
Type 6 - The Loyalist: Core Motivation: Sixes seek security, guidance, and support. They strive to find safety and stability in their environment and relationships.
Core Fear: Sixes fear being abandoned, unsupported, or without guidance. They may worry about potential dangers and uncertainties.
Core Desire: Sixes desire to have security, certainty, and trust. They long for reassurance and reliable relationships.
Typical Behaviors: Sixes are loyal, responsible, and often seek guidance from authority figures or trusted individuals. They may be cautious, vigilant, and prepared for potential risks.
Wing 5 (6w5): The Defender
Fives bring an intellectual and independent dimension to Sixes. They may have a more withdrawn and observant approach to their loyalty and may seek knowledge to feel more secure.
Wing 7 (6w7): The Buddy
Sevens add an adventurous and optimistic element to Sixes. They may seek distraction from anxieties and look for exciting experiences to balance their need for security.
Type 7 - The Enthusiast: Core Motivation: Sevens seek pleasure, excitement, and new experiences. They strive to avoid pain and discomfort and seek fulfillment in the present moment.
Core Fear: Sevens fear being trapped, limited, or missing out on opportunities. They may avoid facing difficult emotions or situations.
Core Desire: Sevens desire to be happy, satisfied, and fulfilled. They long for freedom and a sense of abundance.
Typical Behaviors: Sevens are enthusiastic, spontaneous, and often have a wide range of interests. They enjoy seeking new experiences, possibilities, and tend to be optimistic.
Wing 6 (7w6): The Entertainer
Sixes bring a practical and security-oriented dimension to Sevens. They may have a more cautious approach to their enthusiasm and may seek support and guidance in their pursuits.
Wing 8 (7w8): The Realist
Eights add a bold and assertive element to Sevens. They may be more focused on power and assertiveness in their pursuit of pleasure and may have a stronger desire for control.
Type 8 - The Challenger: Core Motivation: Eights seek control, independence, and protection. They strive to avoid vulnerability and stand up for themselves and others.
Core Fear: Eights fear being controlled, manipulated, or vulnerable. They may worry about being taken advantage of or appearing weak.
Core Desire: Eights desire to be strong, self-reliant, and in control. They long for justice, fairness, and protection for themselves and those they care about.
Typical Behaviors: Eights are assertive, confident, and often take on leadership roles. They have a strong presence and tend to be direct and confrontational.
Wing 7 (8w7): The Maverick
Sevens bring an adventurous and pleasure-seeking dimension to Eights. They may have a more lighthearted and optimistic approach to their assertiveness and desire for control.
Wing 9 (8w9): The Bear
Nines add a calming and harmonizing element to Eights. They may have a more grounded and receptive approach to their assertiveness and desire for control.
Type 9 - The Peacemaker: Core Motivation: Nines seek inner and outer peace, harmony, and avoidance of conflict. They strive for comfort and a sense of unity with others.
Core Fear: Nines fear conflict, disconnection, or loss of peace. They may avoid asserting themselves or facing difficult emotions.
Core Desire: Nines desire to have inner stability, peace, and to maintain their relationships. They long for a sense of wholeness and unity.
Typical Behaviors: Nines are easygoing, agreeable, and often go along with others' preferences. They seek to maintain harmony and may merge with others' opinions.
Wing 8 (9w8): The Referee
Eights bring a stronger assertiveness and a desire for power to Nines. They may be more willing to stand up for themselves and others and may have a stronger sense of individuality.
Wing 1 (9w1): The Dreamer
Ones bring a sense of responsibility and a desire for order to Nines. They may strive for personal improvement and may have higher standards for themselves and their relationships.
Remember that individuals may vary within each type, and the wings offer additional dimensions to their core motivations. The Enneagram system is a tool for self-awareness and personal growth, helping individuals understand their patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving.
Stay tune for Enneagram posts.
xoxo J.
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antvnger · 8 months
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NEGATIVE ENNEAGRAM TEST
Enneagram Tests are often criticized for focusing too much on the positive aspects of a person’s character. Are you ready to face your Enneagram dark side?
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((Thank you for the tag @stxrksarc this was very interesting!
So Scott tied between Type 2 “The Helper/The Giver” and Type 7 “The Enthusiast/The Adventurer”. There’s loads of traits than come with both of these, and some relate to him more than others. The entire list is under the cut.))
Enneagram Type 2 is characterized by a deep-seated desire to connect with others by offering assistance and support. While this personality type is known for their kindness, generosity, and empathy, the negative aspects of their nature can create challenges in both their personal lives and relationships.
Overly Self-Sacrificing: Strong inclination to prioritize others' needs over their own, often to the detriment of their own well-being.
Validation Seeking: Seeking approval and validation from others by constantly helping and being indispensable.
Boundary Issues: Difficulty setting healthy boundaries, leading to emotional exhaustion and burnout.
Ignoring Personal Needs: Neglecting their own needs and desires while focusing excessively on fulfilling others'.
Fear of Rejection: Constantly fearing rejection or abandonment if they don't meet others' needs.
Burnout: Constantly overextending themselves without proper self-care, leading to burnout.
Validation Addiction: Becoming addicted to the emotional highs they get from being needed and appreciated.
Enneagram Type 7 is characterized by a strong desire for novelty, excitement, and avoiding discomfort. While this personality type possesses many strengths such as creativity, optimism, and a sense of adventure, the negative aspects of their nature can create challenges in both their personal lives and relationships. 
Avoidance of Negative Emotions: Tendency to avoid facing negative emotions by seeking distractions.
Restlessness: Struggling with being fully present, and always seeking new experiences.
Overcommitment: Engaging in numerous activities simultaneously, often to the point of exhaustion.
Disregarding Consequences: Ignoring potential negative outcomes in favor of immediate enjoyment.
Impulsiveness: Making hasty decisions based on excitement rather than careful consideration.
Unrealistic Optimism: Ignoring potential pitfalls due to a focus on positive outcomes.
Tagging (no pressure): @inz-lokisdottir @guardian-rocket @redxinmyledger @supremestrangeness @thisisthewade @og-ant-man @benevolentgodloki @thegrandharveyspecter and anyone else who wants to play
Type 2
Their negative aspects tend to take the following forms:
* Overly Self-Sacrificing: Strong inclination to prioritize others' needs over their own, often to the detriment of their own well-being.
* Validation Seeking: Seeking approval and validation from others by constantly helping and being indispensable.
* Manipulative Behavior: Tendency to manipulate situations and emotions to feel needed and valued.
* Hidden Agenda: Helping others with the underlying expectation of receiving appreciation or reciprocation.
* Boundary Issues: Difficulty setting healthy boundaries, leading to emotional exhaustion and burnout.
* Resentment: Developing resentment when their efforts aren't acknowledged or reciprocated as expected.
* Ignoring Personal Needs: Neglecting their own needs and desires while focusing excessively on fulfilling others'.
* Fear of Rejection: Constantly fearing rejection or abandonment if they don't meet others' needs.
* Dependence on Others' Approval: Relying on external validation for their sense of self-worth and identity.
* Loss of Authenticity: Suppressing their own feelings and opinions to cater to others' preferences.
* Emotional Manipulation: Using emotions to control situations, often making others feel guilty for not complying.
* Avoiding Conflict: Going to great lengths to avoid conflict and disagreements, even at their own expense.
* Loss of Identity: Struggling to distinguish their own desires and identity from those they help.
* Exaggerated Selflessness: Displaying excessive selflessness to the point of denying their own needs altogether.
* Emotional Volatility: Swinging between feelings of selflessness and moments of frustration or anger.
* Martyr Complex: Adopting the role of the martyr, using their sacrifices to garner sympathy and attention.
* Conditional Giving: Giving with strings attached, expecting something in return for their help.
* Neglecting Self-Reflection: Focusing so much on others that they fail to reflect on their own feelings and motivations.
* Unhealthy Attachments: Forming co-dependent relationships based on their role as the caregiver.
* Burnout: Constantly overextending themselves without proper self-care, leading to burnout.
* Loss of Autonomy: Feeling trapped by their need to be needed, which can hinder their personal growth.
* Fear of Abandonment: Worrying that if they stop helping, they'll be abandoned or unloved.
* Validation Addiction: Becoming addicted to the emotional highs they get from being needed and appreciated.
Type 7
Their negative aspects tend to take the following forms:
* Avoidance of Negative Emotions: Tendency to avoid facing negative emotions by seeking distractions.
* Restlessness: Struggling with being fully present, and always seeking new experiences.
* Superficial Gratification: Pursuit of pleasure and novelty for immediate gratification.
* Escapism: Using distractions, such as excessive planning or indulgence, to evade discomfort.
* Fear of Boredom: Strong aversion to routine or mundane activities, fearing boredom.
* Overcommitment: Engaging in numerous activities simultaneously, often to the point of exhaustion.
* Difficulty with Commitment: Struggle with committing to long-term projects or relationships.
* Disregarding Consequences: Ignoring potential negative outcomes in favor of immediate enjoyment.
* Impulsiveness: Making hasty decisions based on excitement rather than careful consideration.
* Avoidance of Pain: Evading emotional pain or discomfort by focusing on positive experiences.
* Difficulty Processing Emotions: Struggling to process and express deeper emotions.
* Shallow Connections: Forming many social connections but rarely developing deep relationships.
* Fear of Missing Out: Anxiety about missing out on new experiences or opportunities.
* Ignoring Practicalities: Neglecting practical responsibilities in pursuit of excitement.
* Dependency on External Stimuli: Relying on external sources for happiness and satisfaction.
* Perpetual Searching: Always searching for the next best thing, leading to dissatisfaction.
* Escalation of Escapism: Escaping into fantasies or overindulgence during times of stress.
* Lack of Follow-Through: Difficulty completing tasks that lose their initial appeal.
* Avoidance of Negative News: Avoiding negative news or situations that disrupt positivity.
* Difficulty with Intimacy: Struggling to engage in deep emotional intimacy due to avoidance of pain.
* Resistance to Discomfort: Unwillingness to face discomfort or negative emotions head-on.
* Fear of Being Trapped: Anxiety about being tied down or limited in their choices.
* Loss of Perspective: Getting caught up in the pursuit of pleasure, neglecting long-term goals.
* Vulnerability Aversion: Reluctance to reveal vulnerabilities or fears to others.
* Unrealistic Optimism: Ignoring potential pitfalls due to a focus on positive outcomes.
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playsthetics · 2 years
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ENFP 7w8 Libra Sun Libra Moon Scorpio Rising for @blackbirb
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nandorsaccent · 1 year
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my boyfriend and i have the same personality types as ed and stede😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
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(via Enneagram Comparisons | Type Three and Type Seven)
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almostzander · 4 months
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Weird vent post time feel free to ignore this post all together.
Anyways-
Anyone else feel the need to run? Not like physically but like... any change, any worry, any anxiety, and I have the urge to uproot my entire life. Not just the shaving head and getting a new tattoo kind of change, although I've done that too. But quit my job, move states, cut ties with the people I love most. This need to outrun the discomfort. To seek new, better, safer, anything. To tear apart my room at three am and rearrange it. To apply to jobs I never wanted before, start hobbies, quit hobbies. I just need my life to change. I need to feel like I'm in control of something, instead of it all just happening to me.
It's why I changed college majors. It's why I quit my job without warning. Several times. It's why I started streaming. It's why I almost quit streaming, and college, and dance, and every hobby I've ever had. It's why I've never lived in an apartment for longer than 2 years. It's why I went to church this weekend for the first time in 8 years.
It's why I've never been broken up with, because every time there's a hint of discomfort I'm the first to flee. To cut ties and run before I can get hurt. It's why I've dropped friends. It's also why when I feel the discomfort with people who mean the world to me, my closest friends, I end up in this nauseating panic. I assume they will do the same to me, even if it's someone I care too deeply about to run from. You'll find me writing page long apologies, begging for forgiveness even if I've done nothing wrong.
I'm a runner. Sometimes, I don't even know what I'm running from. I'm exhausted. I want to stop running, and at this point I don't know how. I'm in that panic again I can feel it. I want to drop everything and run. Fighting that feeling is only making it worse. I've already started pulling up job applications. I've signed up for a gym membership. I've cleaned out my closet. I dont know what to do next.
I'm not sure what posting this does to help, but something about writing it down like this, it makes it easier. That's all. Will probably delete this at some point.
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blueopinions49 · 10 months
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All Enneagram Guides
Gut Types (9-8-1)
https://www.tumblr.com/blueopinions49/714684054949298176/understanding-type-9?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/blueopinions49/713776928726958080/understanding-type-8?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/blueopinions49/715329872464150528/understanding-type-1?source=share
Head Types (7-6-5)
https://www.tumblr.com/blueopinions49/713157696877199360/understanding-type-7?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/blueopinions49/712508568147984384/understanding-type-6?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/blueopinions49/712065601858895872/understanding-type-5?source=share
Heart Types (4-3-2)
https://www.tumblr.com/blueopinions49/710605851536326656/understanding-type-4-pt-1?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/blueopinions49/711239964250324992/introduction-this-is-a-rantinformative-post-on?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/blueopinions49/710152882517884928/understanding-type-3?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/blueopinions49/708805690950565888/understanding-type-2?source=share
“The Instinctual Drives and The Enneagram”- John Lukovich 2021
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rainytypology · 8 months
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Enneagram system
A rewrite/more in depth post of the Enneagram system compared to my last post on it. Not an expert. May change later.
If you like kpop and typology, check out my blog. I do type analysis on idols and typology notes.
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What is Enneagram?
I mainly took notes from Riso Hudson theory.
A typology system that categorizes personalities into 9 different types. Each type is numbered from 1 - 9.
Each type has a desire and fear that motivates their actions in life.
Core and Wings
Core: Our main type. It is the foundation of our personality and does not change.
Wing: Acts as a complement to our core. Wing can be one of the two types that sit beside core type. E.g a core 2 can have a 1 wing (2w1) or 3 wing (2w3). But is not necessary to use since wings can change and/or can be balanced.
Levels of Development
Summary of healthy - unhealthy levels of personality
- Healthy levels -
Level 1: Liberation
Let go of self image so we are free to express ourselves however we want. Self acceptance of all traits.
Level 2: Pyschological Capacity
Begin to identify with positive qualities in our personalities and learn to improve ourselves with them.
Level 3: Social Value
Still strongly identify with our set self image and make effort to maintain image. Want to share our good talents and abilities to make a positive effect on self and others.
- Average levels -
Level 4: Imbalance/Social roles
Idealization of self image; have a major focus on either good or bad qualities, no in between. Fear is an obstacle here.
Level 5: Interpersonal Control
Insist on self image being accepted by others, which can cause conflict. Can lead to controlling and manipulation.
Level 6: Overcompensation
Overcompensate due to underlying negative feelings. Desperate for others' acceptance.
- Unhealthy levels -
Level 7: Violation
Desperation for acceptance leads to violation of one's self and others. Serious conflict can occur. May victimize themselves to excuse offensive actions.
Level 8: Obsession and Compulsion
May be overly obsessed with an image of who they want to be. Deceives others
Level 9: Pathological Destructiveness
Most unhealthy state, display very toxic traits and behaviours, may have mental breakdown
Disintegration vs Integration
Or basically Stress vs Growth
Disintegration: When under heavy amounts of stress, a type will go into their disintegration type. They will pick up the negative traits of that type and act like the unhealthy version of it.
Integration: When maturing/developing positively, a type will go their integration type. They will pick up the positive traits of that type and improve their character.
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* I will only give short descriptions for the triads. I will explain more in depth in individual posts.*
Centers of Intelligence
There are 3 centers of intelligence. Each center shows how and why we solve issues in life.
Gut/Instinct/Anger (types 1, 8, 9)
Gut center focuses on reacting and taking action immediately. This triad has an issue with control and anger.
1: Often perfectionists who repress their anger in order to remain morally good. They see their anger in a negative light.
8: The most open and comfortable with their anger. Uses it to assert boundaries, especially since this type fears vulnerability.
9: Often a passive type that dismisses or downplays their anger. They fear conflict and may worry being more assertive will cause a negative effect on themselves and others.
Heart/Image/Shame (types 2, 3, 4)
Heart center focuses on self identity and connections. This triad wants love and recognition and do what they believe is best to get that. They struggle with self worth.
2: They want to be needed and helpful to others. Pride themselves on being of service. Wants to receive love and to give love.
3: The most image oriented type. They always try to show their best selves and best efforts in order to seem admirable. Fears being worthless.
4: Wants to create a unique image for themselves, believes being boring will make them unloveable.
Head/Thinking/Fear (types 5, 6, 7)
Head center focuses on ideas, making rational decisions, and gathering info. This triad deals with fear and uncertainty.
5: The most internalized head type. 5's want to gather as much knowledge and resources as possible in order to stay secure and independent.
6: Quite an anxious type who seeks security through relations with others.
7: This type fears pain and suffering and seek out experiences in order to avoid negativity.
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Other triads
- Harmonic Triads -
How types handle conflict, coping mechanism
Reactive (4, 6, 8)
Reactive types are not afraid to show and speak about their true feelings. They may seem "dramatic" in a way.
4: Melodramatic and self absorbed in negative feelings, drowns in intensity
6: Will argue, stick up for the right thing, moody, anxious
8: Big and loud reactions, can be very fiery
Positive (2, 7, 9)
Positive types dislike negativity and conflict and have their own ways of avoiding such tension. Optimistic during hard times.
2: Actively tries to be a good and kind person, only tries to focus on the good aspects of people
7: Seeks out fun opportunities to make their life exciting (basically distraction)
9: Values harmony and peace, will not risk any type of action that will disturb these values
Competency (1, 3, 5)
Competent types are often perfectionists who want to show their best selves. Objective and rational.
1: Strives to be correct and right, wants to be precise in what they do
3: Represses softer emotions to keep up a certain image, thrives with work/passions so they can be the best at what they do
5: Detached from feelings to remain logical and objective, knowledge seeking
- Hornevian Triads -
Relationships with others, how they get what they want
Assertive (3, 7, 8)
Assertive types go against people to get what they want. Do not back down easily, can seem aggressive and forceful.
3: Pushes through obstacles for achievements, goal oriented
7: Asserts their right to have fun, refuse to be restricted
8: Asserts power and strength, places boundaries
Withdrawn (4, 5, 9)
Withdrawn types are very internalized and do not show their needs openly. Deals with things alone.
4: Feels something is wrong with them internally, feels misunderstood
5: Detached from others as to not drain their own energy, will figure it out themselves
9: Introspective, lets life happen
Compliant (1, 2, 6)
Compliant work with people to get what they want. Builds relationships for security, wants to be helpful to others.
1: Doing the right thing instead of one's own wants
2: Focus on other's needs more instead of self
6: Tries to build a safe and secure environment by getting ppl to work together
- Object Relations -
How we are affected by others, our own affect on others, how we react to personal wounds
Attachment (3, 6, 9)
Seek out bonds and companionships for particular reasons. Individuality vs adaptation.
3: Changes their image to suit whoever they are with in order to meet expectations
6: Creates support systems to help with their self doubt and indecisiveness
9: Adapts to the energy of the environment to keep harmony
Frustration (1, 4, 7)
Triad gets frustrated when their needs aren't met.
1: Has a need to improve every little imperfection they find
4: Dislikes shallowness, longs for depth and complexity
7: Not enjoying experiences, not feeling fulfilled
Rejection (2, 5, 8)
Their own needs feel unimportant to others, so they reject their own needs as well.
2: Rejects the need to receive love and guidance, instead focuses on connecting with others and helping them.
5: Ignores and minimizes all their needs, offers knowledge and expertise in some hope of being acknowledged for their intelligence.
8: Rejects by being never putting their guard down, wanting to appear strong and as the protector of others.
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Subtypes
Claudio Naranjo theory
There are three subtypes/instinctual variants that show our drive in life. There are 27 different subtypes in total.
Self Preservation (Sp)
Focuses on physical safety and security. Our physical health, financial security, obligations, and comforts.
Sexual/One - on - one (Sx)
Wants intensity and deep connections, one on one relationships are preferred.
Social (So)
Prefers to be in a community, wants to create good connections and bonds with others. Socially aware, focus on group goals and contributions.
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Tritype
Katherine Fauvre theory
A minor but still interesting piece of Enneagram. Tritype is formed of your 3 dominant types from each center. The first number will always be your core, followed by your other 2 dominant types.
E.g 369. 3 = core, heart. 6 = head. 9 = gut.
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khaotunq · 10 months
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enneagram series - type 7: gun, my school president "Extroverted, optimistic, versatile, and spontaneous. Playful, high-spirited, and practical, they can also misapply their many talents, becoming over-extended, scattered, and undisciplined. They constantly seek new and exciting experiences, but can become distracted and exhausted by staying on the go." [x]
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Hello Id like to thank you for two times your posts made me feel strangely affirmed. First one is Seeing your tags on coffeebanana’s self praise poll today because thts just the kind of writer I’d like to become. Second is the way you personality-typed adrien some months ago because I am infp 7w6 and he is my All Time Number One Blorbo Just Like Me Fr Lol Pain Lol.
Lastly on this special occasion I hope you take in the full extent of how worth it all the time and heart and thought and work you put in to that big heavy novel was to so many people .and I’m sure your original fiction will slap and resonate(bass guitar)
AAHHHH THANK YOU I FEEL SO VALIDATED THAT YOU AGREE WITH MY MIRACULOUS ENNEAGRAM POST THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR!!! i'm going to nickname you pathfinder, since the 7w6 is called "pathfinder" or "entertainer." between you and me, i think both nicknames suit adrien really well too ❤️❤️❤️
knowing my fic meant something to somebody out there is already enough to grow my heart three sizes. but omg, it having an impact on somebody? knowing that people will gladly read what i write now because it was me who wrote it? that's just. ahhhh. it's so much for my poor little 9 self to take. thank you so much for letting me know my words mattered, and not only that, but that you enjoyed them too! feeling that electric guitar riff in my soul right now 🎸
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annemarieyeretzian · 4 months
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CRITICAL ROLE: BELL'S HELLS (2021–) ENNEAGRAM TYPES ★
Fearne Calloway – Type 7(w8): The Opportunist
Sevens are extroverted, optimistic, and spontaneous. They are high-spirited and playful, but they can also misapply their many talents, becoming over-extended, scattered, and undisciplined. They constantly seek new and exciting experiences, but can become distracted and exhausted by staying on the go. They typically have problems with impatience and impulsiveness. Sevens are enthusiastic about almost everything that catches their attention. They approach life with curiosity, optimism, and a sense of adventure. they are bold, extremely optimistic, and vivacious: they are endowed with abundant vitality and a desire to fully participate in their lives each day. They are naturally cheerful and good humored, not taking themselves too seriously – or anything else, for that matter. Enneagram 7w8s love to be in control of their lives and get what they want. Their natural charisma charms and inspires others. They love to start or try new things, especially when encouraged by others. Once they decide to go for whatever they want, they won’t stop until they accomplish it.
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taxominn · 23 hours
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Spoilers up to chap 303 of tsctir
When you're on your Enneagram bs & realize that Sung Hyunjae is self-pres/sexual 7 & Han Yoojin is self-pres/sexual 2.
...the fact that they both prioritize self-pres instinct while wielding the sexual instinct second would explain some of the odd chemistry in their semi-transactional relationship. They both are, or at least were, using their growing connection with the other as a tool to satisfy their own needs, and both of them see this as reasonable and fair because they know the other is doing the same thing.
Hyunjae only rejects the chemistry between them when his dominant instinct is threatened... needing to risk his arm to help everyone get out of the Japanese dungeon bcuz of whatever funky stuff Yoojin's got going on. He literally says to Song Taewon, after running away from Yoojin, in ch.296:
“No matter how much I like him, I come first. He’s mine to the end, and while he’s something I treasure, the one I value is myself.”
No wonder dude spirals out of control until he's literally contemplating wiping Yoojin off the face of the planet. he's a pleasure-seeking sp7 that ensures the satisfaction of his needs by building interpersonal alliances, & the passionate, dreamy energy of his sx7 instinct serves that end. if the focus of his current passion is abt to risk his survival, if he's gonna have to start making actual sacrifices, then it makes sense that he'd think abt cutting his losses. but... he doesn't want to kill him. cuz he liiiikes him. so he just ghosts him lol
& Yoojin's reaction to it is so freaking funny dude. he's like a crazy ex Hyunjae broke up with over text. & that makes sense, too, bcuz he's beginning to actually care about Sung Hyunjae in a non-transactional way, so Hyunjae just up and ghosting has to absolutely trigger the 2's fear of being unloved and abandoned, like it did when he thought Yoohyun abandoned him pre-regression. and because 2's are hiding insecurity and entitlement for love & attention behind a veneer of altruism, which wells into anger & resentment if they don't get the love that they're due, Yoojin literally threatens to blow up his house if he doesn't respond to him. and does, like, a 24 hour death countdown before barging into Sung Hyunjae's house when he STILL hadn't responded to his texts lololol
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Most assertive types (378) are not badass go getters, they are broke clowns who live in a fantasy world of their grandiosity whilst their real life rots around them. None of you who write anything about the assertive triad have lived in reality. You see the assertive triad like some sort of mythological legend instead of real people. It’s fucking insufferable.
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mistype360 · 3 months
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(via Enneagram Comparisons | Type Two and Type Seven)
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