A Poem From An Academic Burnout
When I was younger, I used to look out for the little guy
Give him the last dodgeball, hang out with him at recess
Now I care more about my reputation than about others
When I was younger, my teachers used to praise my intelligent brain
I used to read books, study hard, be eager to learn
Now I sit in class, daydreaming, wishing I was anywhere else but in the classroom
When I was younger, I begged my mom for more playdates with friends
For them to come over to my house, for us to meet at playground; anything
Now I ignore every text and call that goes through my phone because I don’t want to interact
When I was younger, I used to take such pride in my extra curricular activities
My acting and writing was everything to me
Now I doubt everything I do
When I was younger, I used to look into the mirror and think “Wow, I look amazing!”
I loved my hair, my skin, my clothes
Now I look into the mirror and say “How did I let myself become this ugly?”
Somewhere along the way I lost the heart that told me to help others
I lost the ambition to be amazing at school
I lost my extraverted talkative soul
I lost my pride and joy
I lost my beauty
So where did it all go?
And why can’t I find it?
Because the only thing I can feel or think of right now is emptiness and deep depression
When I was younger, my smile used to light up a room
I used to entertain and talk for hours
Now I sit alone in the darkness
-An Academic Burnout
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Proof that Tony Stark is not an extravert
Well, I’d bet it’s better results than one could get on YouTube, Twitter, or Reddit, but come on.
I’m going to show you why MCU Tony is certainly not an extravert.
I've already posted some stuff, such as:
Absent-minded Tony
Socially awkward Tony
As you can see, Tony has some issues that hint to us that he’s not always present or outgoing. And now it’s time to gather all these and other things and summarize our findings.
Extraversion: Large social network & Thrive in teams, crowds vs Introversion: Value 1:1 friendships & Favor independence
Tony no doubt knows a lot of people. Because he ran a huge technological company, right. Business partners, military officers, politicians, SHIELD agents, journalists, his staff, etc. Although this doesn’t mean that he communicates with many people regularly, or has many friends. And we know he doesn’t. He never had many friends. Throughout the Infinity Saga, he made a few, like Pepper and Happy. But before IM2 his only friends were Rhodey, J.A.R.V.I.S., and his bots.
He mostly interacted with AIs and robots, especially in his solo movies. This tells us something, doesn’t it? I’ll write a separate post about his childhood, but it is obvious that he was always an outcast: in school, college, before the Avengers, within the Avengers… We don’t really see him as a “gear” in this mechanism. He is most often steps ahead of others or steps aside. None of the Avengers were really his friends, and I’ll write about that too in the future.
Did he try to make more friends? He seemed to think some of the Avengers were. He thought Steve was. Remember this?
Or Bruce. But Bruce didn't even want to listen to him when Tony needed help.
And he left him at the end of AoU. But Tony thought he was a friend. Moreover, he considered them all his family.
That’s what he was doing – everyone around him, from assistants to teammates, were considered friends and family members and were treated accordingly. He needed that, not a large social network of "pals" and "buddies" he barely knows.
Let’s illustrate how he felt about people around him:
Deleted scene "Dubai Party" from IM (2008)
Tony doesn’t really talk to those people. He doesn't feel comfortable shaking their hands or taking anything from them. That's not why he's here, it's an alibi for the mission in Afghanistan. And we see that all this causes him disgust and discomfort.
The Charity Ball - IM (2008)
And boom - he doesn't know that Christina is talking about Jericho, which Stein sold to the Ten Rings. He thinks she is referring to this event. And he (surprisingly) reveals that he actually has social anxiety. That doesn't sound like an extrovert to me.
Alternate Opening from IM2 shows us Tony, who is trying to avoid going on some kind of dangerous mission. And then we find out that that mission is actually the Expo Opening. He doesn’t look excited that he has to go to the crowd, doesn’t he?
After that, he makes his way through the crowd of fans, communicating with virtually no one.
At the Senate hearing, he seems bored. He doesn’t pay much attention to the politicians, asking Pepper about chili, hacking networks, and making fun of Senator Stern.
After he’s done with Hammer and Stern he shows his public mask to others. We know he is not comfortable with this situation, but he has to deal with it.
At the party "Natalie wears the gauntlet" deleted scene from IM2
This is what Tony really thinks about these people. He doesn’t like them, doesn’t like this lifestyle. He didn’t want this party in the first place. He doesn’t even understand celebrating birthdays ("The Sub-Orbital Jet" deleted scene, IM2).
Sounds very introvert-like to me.
He wears sunglasses in public. Because he is uncomfortable when people see his eyes - they cannot hide from them what he wants to hide. And that brings us to the next trait…
Extraversion: Enjoy being a center of attention vs Introversion: Avoid being a center of attention
He hides behind sunglasses. Most of the time, he only shows his mask to people he considers strangers. When he's the center of attention, it's his mask, not the real Tony.
The real Tony refused to be the commander of the Avengers, despite being their benefactor and providing them with everything. The real Tony didn't go to important public events on behalf of the team, Natasha (WS and CW) did. The real Tony left the Avengers at his Compound and went to live with his family in a cabin in the middle of nowhere. And, again, we can recall what he said about his birthday and parties in general.
Extraversion: Think out loud vs Introversion: Think before speaking
Tony is not the guy who shares his thoughts with others. He thinks a lot. And he hides most of it from others.
Does he always think before speaking? No, not at all. But that’s his goofy personality, not extraversion.
Extraversion: Energize around people & seek greater stimulation vs Introversion: Recharge, reflect in quiet & Seek less stimulation
As we can see, Tony is not that much of a people person. He avoids gatherings when he can, and doesn’t enjoy them when he can’t. Most of the time he spends in his workshop/lab with his AIs, bots, and sometimes with Bruce, with occasional visits from Pepper and Rhodey. And he is comfortable in this environment.
With the Avengers he doesn’t act like an energy battery. Instead, he is quiet, calm, and just minds his own business. Look at the scenes from AoU:
At the party he doesn't talk to many people, we see him in a small group of Thor and Maria Hill, and he is, again, pretty quiet.
In Endgame he lives with just his wife, daughter, chickens, and Gerald the alpaca in a cabin, far from other people and their noise. He has nature around, a big fireplace, and paper books to read by it. This is his happiness. An introvert's dream.
Conclusion: all the extraversion we see in Tony came from his business training that started when he was a kid. He had to develop a set of skills: communicating with many people, participating in gatherings, selling stuff, running a company, dealing with journalists and politicians. He became the owner of a huge business when he was only 21 years old. Of course, he has skills formed by decades of experience. But we see he doesn’t enjoy doing all this stuff. This is not his comfort zone. His comfort zone is his lab and a few close friends. It's hard to tell from the masks he wears and his skills whether he's an introvert or an ambivert who tends to be introverted, but he's definitely not an extravert.
P.S. This is not a 100% comprehensive review of everything I've seen in the movies. There are many more examples of his introversion in the MCU. But this post is already huge, so if you would like to see more about it – let me know in the comments and I’ll make more detailed posts about each trait.
616 Tony here
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@mciorr replied to your post “People who don't announce their visit earlier are...”:
Impose? If it bothers you so much that someone comes over without a day's notice (lol) tell all your close people that you don't like it and they won't. If someone comes over but you don't want to see them, you don't like them and you should have no problem telling them to leave. I don't see the drama, it's something easy to solve and even easier to avoid.
I'm not sure you're aware but there are different levels of closeness between people. If the person is your close family or a friend who knows you well and they come over often and you feel comfortable around them it's different. It's logical you talk often and you know each other's schedules and habits, you know when each of you is up for a meeting or too tired to hang out. And it's still nice to hear "hey, would you like to meet?" because it means the person cares about you and your preferences.
But when someone visits once a few months or they don't even know you much because they're merely an acquaintance then asking if you have time to receive a guest is good manners (lol). It's not good manners to barge in without a word of notice when someone's chilling on a Sunday afternoon, or forcing someone to come home from their errands earlier because you're waiting at their house. Sometimes you sit in your sweatpants with a dirty hair and cat fur on your carpet and you have no cake to serve to your guests because you had a busy week. You may not care when your mum visits and sees you like this but you don't necessarily want your coworker or a not-so-close friend to see you like this. It's stressful not being able to prepare for the visit. We have phones for God's sake! How hard is it to call and say you want to meet? Maybe you're one of those people who like to catch others off guard, I don't.
Also, the fact that someone is rude and doesn't know that it's proper to give a heads up before they appear in your house doesn't mean you can be rude back and tell them to leave. And you might like someone and still not have the energy to see them on a particular day.
And yeah sure, people always take into consideration what you tell them. Everything's so easy when you type it, I swear xD
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How to Spend Time Alone
One important aspect of looking after yourself is being able to not simply exist on your own, but to genuinely enjoy alone time. For the introverts among you, you’re probably already sorted, but I hope this nonetheless gives you some ideas.
But from an extravert, and for my extroverts, here is An Extravert’s Guide to Alone Time.
1. Surround Yourself With People.
Sounds counterintuitive, I know, but here’s an example of where I am right now: sitting alone at a table in the library cafe. No one is on the seat across from me, so I’m technically “alone,” but I can hear the librarians, I can hear the other patrons- all chattering away.
So I don’t feel alone
Ideas
- go to that restaurant you’ve been meaning to try
- go to the cinema/ movie theatre
- go to the theatre and sing along at the curtain call
- go to a concert and sing along
(Singing. I’m suggesting you sing lol)
2. Make time Alone as Special as Time with Friends.
Whether you’re in public or at home, out energy into time alone. Don’t just read your book; set up candles and fairy lights, make hot chocolate, and make a little nest of cushions.
Don’t just watch Netflix; make popcorn, put on a face mask, and make a solo sleepover of it.
(PS. You don’t have to do maximum effort every time lol)
Ok, that’s kinda it! Hope that helped even the introverts!!
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i further simplified perceiving functions
se tests (and loves testing) sensory qualities of objects (including people) in real time and in a really slapdash way. for example how tough you are? how much pressure you can take? this is why se doms tend to be handsy practical jokers. they literally physically test you/things to learn about them. (here i used the word exact for se before which now i think completely wrong.)
si does what se does too but gradually, paying much, MUUUUCH more mind to details, minimizing the chance of failure.
ne is just like se except about potentialities of objects. idea pops up in ne dom's mind and he just squirts that out in a slapdash way. another idea pops up and without comparing pros and cons of that idea, ne doms claims how that's the best idea. both se and ne experimental like that.
ni is therefore gradual, detail oriented ne that pays a lot of mind to consequences. why? because whatever intuited by ni dom AT LEAST makes 4 circles inside the head instead of blurted out right away.
this is why ni and si doms tend to be bad talkers. they are not used to talking without thinking / refining / deliberating a lot what they should say. so when they HAVE to talk right then and right there, they say wierd incomplete disconnected things.
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Here's something i strongly believe in: everyone is both introverted and extroverted to some extent.
i picture it like this: you have two "batteries" of mental energy. You need both of them to have at least some juice in them to thrive.
Battery A drains when you're alone and charges when you're in social situations.
Battery B drains when you're in social situations and charges when you're alone.
What is different per person is how fast those batteries tend to charge and drain.
Introverts tend to have their battery A drain more slowly and charge more quickly, and their battery B drain more slowly and charge more quickly, while extroverts are the other way around.
For me both of them charge very slowly, but my battery B drains faster than battery A.
So for a long time i thought i was an introvert, but trying to live life as an introvert meant my battery A was always running low. Then I tried to live more like an extrovert but that caused my battery B to completely drain regularly. Now I try to find a balance, to focus on one aspect long enough to charge that battery, but not so long the other gets completely drained.
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