#f: dctv

[booasaur]

random ask which isn't even an ask but... i've just finished kevin can f himself s1 and there was something bothering me and i just had to talk about it with someone who has watched the show. anyways

first of all, i love allison/patty, their relationship is deliciously developed and i'm positive they are going to be endgame (i have to believe that bc otherwise it would be a freaking queerbaiting and we can't have that)

now talking about patty/tammy. for hours i've had a strange feeling about them but was having a hard time putting that into words. at first i immediately liked them as a couple for no reason (ok, i tend to like side couples even when i know they are not gonna make it to the end, maybe i like the drama, sue me). then tammy's attitude started to slightly bother me, like the way she was kinda pushy (trying to teach patty how to like vodka?) and straightforward idk. and i was like "great, now the fandom is going to hate her and nobody is shipping them and there will be 0 fanfiction about them". then i realized, that's not why people don't like her/the ship. the fans weren't going to like it no matter how, the show just gave them an excuse. tammy was destined to be disliked bc she is a black woman who got in the way of two white women who are strongly shipped. the same could be said about sam as an asian man.

and it reminded me a lot of dead to me s2 (the two shows are very similar btw). except that the character who got in the way of the "main couple" (both also white women) is a latina and also a very nice person. despite that, despite her being the healthiest relationship one of the main characters has ever had, most of the fandom hates her for no reason other than She Got In The Way Of Their Ship.

anyway, this is just a random rant about this trend of shows putting a poc between the fandom's favorite ship. and i hate that kcfh made tammy kinda annoying bc i find it 1) a lazy way of making her and patty break up in the future and 2) the perfect excuse for the fandom to dislike her as much as they want.

i guess i just wanted to verbalize that feeling and know someone's opinion on that.

(okay to make it public)

Heh, I'm not as sure about you on the endgame part, nor did I see the reaction toward Natalie Morales's character on Dead Like Me or even really Tammy outside of pointing out the ways in which her behavior hasn't been great, but yeah, in general I'd agree with you on how fandom treats POC and how media itself enables that.

I had the same reaction as you where initially I was like, oh, cool, that's gonna be romantic, and then kind of wincing every time Tammy was overbearing or pushy, because it really is convenient writing to make her unlikable. I'm not even sure for what purpose, unless they want Patty to stand on her own as well, or if the point is simply, people aren't perfect.

And yeah, they aren't, so some might say, well, why can't Tammy be a little imperfect, POC should get to be flawed and messy, but it's really quite different when they're not given much agency and interiority. Hell, POC who ARE given more space and time as leads and co-leads to establish their feelings aren't given much grace by audiences, so I do think that as nice and luxurious as it is to be like, I'm going to write this character as annoying and unlikable because they should be allowed to be, writers DO need to be aware of the reality in which their work is consumed.

Even white women, right, on a sliding scale compared to what white men get away with, can be disliked unfairly but WOC, I mean, a case study on their treatment on DCTV alone is proof that they can be everything that people think they should be, brave, noble, gracious, also flawed and imperfect, and people will just be terrible about them. In a TON of m/f ships (and probably more f/f ships, the more we get), it's so common to see the perfect but not perfect for them Black girlfriend obstacle to the "main" ship, the Disposable Black Girlfriend trope has a name.

Plus, this is IF these characters are written with good intentions, a lot of the time other biases do sneak in. It's not a coincidence most of the main cast is white, that the two rival love interests are POC. Yeah, Kevin is the worst character on the show and a white guy, but characters like Sam and Tammy don't get the luxury of five million portrayals as good guys and antiheroes and deconstructions the way Kevin does.

I'd like to say that Tammy third-wheeling what is now clearly the main love story of the show (mutually romantic or not) would always have placed her at a disadvantage, even if she'd been played by a white actress, but I dunno about that, lol. I've seen people really like these kinds of side ships (the beTRAYAL from the Lost Girl fandom...).

Ultimately, I know you're not really asking a question, just making an observation, and I definitely get what you're saying, even if this isn't the most egregious case of it. But hey, if you want to see Candice Coke not be treated like that, try to give Proven Innocent a chance if you haven't already.

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[ballisterboldheart]

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" alright then you three, its only fair if you return the favor. Tell me a little bit about the magic on your earth, why don't ya? hopefully it's not as cataclysmic and bothersome as the magic on mine. " - J. Constantine

HP: (eyes go widen up upon recieving the question) “Sure why not, Mr. Constantine. Well, it’s weird talking about this, but, in our world, magic can either be inherited through blood or just appeared in some one a little later in life, although some people can be picky over blood status and normal people trying magic out, but thank the Lord that it has been slowly eroded over time. Like your magic, we have spells, charms, jinxes, curses, incantions, and even magical devices and potions as well. And yes, any wizard/witch can try to do the Dark Arts, but those who practise fully are usually bad eggs unfortunately and performing them oftens equals to bad and even dangerous in many countries so far. And there are even more wizards who can abuse their powers for all the wrong reasons too. Like what happened when someone like that tried to end my life for, like, the first nearly 18 years.”

RW: “Any wizard or witch can perform all sorts of magic including non-verbal magic, although most will often use wands to properly attune our abilities. Also, depending on one’s country, spells are written in modified ancient languages and sometimes learning spells in a different language can be tricky. We got schools all around the world that help young wizards and witches to refine their control of their powers, along with various subjects to learn from depending on the school and country.”

HGW: “Plus, every witch or wizard will have to have a speciality magic that they will be known for in the long run, again that would depend on one’s abilities. Mine is the well-rounded of the three of us with all that work being needed for my future work as a Magical Communities lawyer (“And it’s because ‘Mione is also a workaholic nerd, duh!” - Ron in a joking tone, “Ronald, please shut up!” - Hermione being annoyed), Ron’s is more on charms, transfiguration, & tatical magic and has recently stating dabbling on technomagic after meeting some experienced technomages in Zurch a few year ago, and Harry leans on defensive magic and telekinetic magic. Nowadays, Harry’s passing everything we learned in Hogwarts to Mari and Kairi with me and Ron helping out as well.”

HP: “Hopefully what we have answered can give you some relief, sir. At least, our version of Dark Arts doesn’t send people to Hell that often, I guess?”

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