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#no analysis in this one just throwing out some panels i liked
anxiety-elemental-kay · 9 months
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Slowly making my way through volume 10 (I'M NOT READY NOOOOO) and I have two quick things from chapter 3.
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This Vash panel after telling Melanie and the kids to run inside is SO CUTE. Look at him. "Oh yeah the feathers. Yeah. Uh. It's cool I'm Nick's friend."
(especially after his powers manifesting against his will and shown to be horrifying until now, it's fun to see them in a cute panel. more thoughts on this later.)
And finally:
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DING DONG THE BITCH IS DEAD
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celaenaeiln · 9 months
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Am I interested in Dick Grayson's innovativeness and how that makes him a terrifying opponent?
Nah, not really, no, it's no- EXCEPT THAT I AM!
I love your analysis and honestly, I always surf through the dick Grayson tag once a day to see if u have posted. Pls drop the innovatiness wala analysis. I would absolutely eat it up
ADSAJHFGAJLHADJLHA YOU CAN'T SEDUCE ME LIKE THAT-MY HEART CAN'T TAKE IT!
But I am here to deliver *bows*
Let's start this off with a bang
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Dick is completely naked except for a towel and with one (well defined) leg he hooks the handle of the beer bucket and sends it smashing into Midnighter to stop him from using the knife on another person.
Pure. Fucking. Platinum.
That move was so delicious, there's an ease-fluidity-grace-to that split second movement. Also notice how accurate his aim is despite swinging it with the arc of his toes. The bucket slammed right into the medulla oblongata, or more specifically the pyramidal tracts which are crucial for controlling voluntary muscular movements. Nerves from the brain cross over at that area as they go down and then synapse onto other nerves that are responsible for controlling muscles when they leave the spinal cord. The precision at which he aimed the bucket is glorious. And with what? His feet.
The only reason Midnighter wasn't injured is because he is a meta which is the point. Otherwise Dick wouldn't have aimed there unless he was fighting an enemy.
Oh that brings me to my next point.
Dick has extraordinary control of his actions
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He's so right though. Nightwing doesn't need to kill because fighting is too easy for him. I swear he has some kind of messed up idea (aside from his need to be absolutely good) that killing someone with a gun would take the joy out of fighting. He loves to live life on the hardest mode only.
The rapid fire throw of the gun, calculating the distance, time, velocity of return, and angle? I mean I studied physics and calculating even half of that on paper is a headache. The fact that he did it in one second? It's extraordinary. Things that are pure, dumb luck to literally everyone else is carefully calculated at a speed faster than light, making it look like luck. Damn.
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Yeah.
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Forget Slade. Midnighter is my new favorite nemesister.
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DO YOU SEE WHAT HE FOUGHT WITH?! WHILE DEATHSTROKE AND BLACK ADAM WERE FIGHTING WITH META POWERS AND A CURSED SWORD, HE FUCKING WRAPPED CHAINS AROUND HIMSELF LIKE A BOSS AND WHIPPED THE SHIT OUT OF THAT MAN.
Please take a moment of silence to relish in this sight.
Dick's innovativeness is a formidable skill when fighting allies.
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Dick and Ras are evenly matched in sword fighting.
Wait, wait. I don't need any doubts about Dick's strength in sword fighting so I'm going to include a couple panels here:
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Dick fights Azrael to a standstill which is absolutely incredible because Azrael solos. He's gone through many upgrades and skills and is one of the best fighters ever. He's even defeated Bruce.
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He also defeated Jason and Tim together in Batman and Robin Eternal.
This is just another point towards the fact that Dick actually won in his fight against Bruce before going into Spyral. They weren't holding back.
Oh yeah. Ra's vs Dick panel, Dick and Ra's aren't going anywhere because Dick is a swordsman equivalent to one of the best in the world. So how do you win a draw? By one upping the opponent. He swings his foot up in midair and completely defeats him. "But that isn't a defeat...Ra's just stopped fighting!" It was complete defeat because Ra's is intelligent and knows when he can't win. Also they have been fighting for a while until they reached the breaking point in the battle. This move is a show of how Dick has that just one inch more that will lead him to be a victor.
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Ra's honors Dick so much he tried to give the sword he used to fight with Batman because he thinks Dick is worthy of it. Can anyone receive a higher honor than this from that man?
He'll also use the broken glass of a car window to take down his opponent. If that's not innovation, then what is?
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But one last thing since a car door cannot be considered innovative these days.
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sticks. He literally took two twigs off the ground to use as weapons against his highly skilled, one of the best assassins, great-grandfather who is fighting with daggers in his hands and all over his body.
But you know the best part?
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He draws his opponent to a tie. A tie? Not a win? No it was win after, considering he used his relative's falling body as a launching pad in the middle of the air when they were falling off the bridge to grab onto the bridge with the help of his friend. So it was his win but it's insane how incredible Dick's skills are.
It's really innovative because who thinks of using twigs and winning? Let me also clarify another point. Dick could've used the knives he'd gotten from his talon suit and thoroughly won because when he was brain washed he almost killed Red Condor from how skilled he was but he conscientiously chose to use twigs. In a sword fight. This man.
His improvisation is an asset that many have come to know him for and classify him as dangerous because he can fight with anything, anywhere, and win.
Something I want to end with. Dick only fights people who are stronger than him. I know he's fought mob characters and stuff but his enemies? They are all metas, assassins, skilled fighters, Russian Black Ops, and more. Essentially, people who are the top of the class in their categories and him defeating them equally and fairly is the reason why he has the respect of his enemies. He's just that good.
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lenore and the yellow wallpaper (a ramble)
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so this is all one entire big and large ramble session from me, so ignore if you want because this has no actual point, and i also haven't touched the yellow wallpaper since i handed it in with my coursework so i'm bound to get things wrong. this is no high-brow analysis, this is just be rambling. i've finally gotten the courage as well to go on the big scary tumblr and speak so be nice please :)
anyways, now we have that out of the way– i bring you my observation.
so i've been rereading nevermore (because i am deep in the trenches of my hyperfixation on it right now and have firmly planted myself there) and i noticed something in episode 21 that i remember noticing the first time.
just for a recap, episode 21 is when they're facing the dementophobia trial, and lenore has gotten herself sucked into a hallucination. through this, we (presumably along with her) are shown parts of her past, and the fallout of her brother dying. in a long scene, we basically see the attic which lenore is forced to 'rest' in.
sorry if this is like an obvious tell, but my little rat brain was vibrating out of my seat to say this.
well, first off, let me just give you a little summary of the yellow wallpaper. we have this nameless woman (who's married) who's also our narrator, her husband: john who's a doctor and we also have john's sister: jennie. jennie isn't too important in the summary but she exists and stuff and there's loads of journals out there probably that could tell you super interesting things about her role in the story.
anyways, i digress. the narrator has been diagnosed with slight nervous tendencies and is given the rest cure therapy as treatment. she ends up slowly going insane in the attic (?) which doubles as a nursery, and there's this fugly yellow wallpaper, which the narrator comments to be basically like a crime to art and to colour in general. anyways, the more she stares at this wallpaper and the longer she stays in the attic, she starts to see a woman behind the wallpaper– and the short story ends with her ripping the wallpaper off and freeing the woman but then also, the story ends essentially with her throwing herself out of the window of the attic and yeah, suicide. there's like allusions to the woman behind the wallpaper and her being one at the end, but WE AREN'T FOCUSSING ON THAT, i've rambled enough.
anyways, how does this all link to nevermore?
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THIS PANEL RIGHT HERE.
idk, the act of ripping off the wallpaper just distinctly reminded me of the yellow wallpaper, and i have no idea if the creators drew inspo from the yellow wallpaper for this or if it was one of poe's works (i'm not heavily versed in all of his works, but i have a collection of his stuff i should probably sift through and read). but yeah, thought it was cute.
i know thematically they probably vary, but there is something to be said that both of them are in a situation where society wants so badly to silence them and punishes their defiance with the diagnosis 'madness'.
i dunno, just a nice little thought. there's also the whole rest cure therapy too, and the fact that they're both in the attics of their homes– and i presume lenore is in a secluded countryside place here like the narrator of the yellow wallpaper is. so, you know– other connections!
also, as a side note–
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this bad boy right here? ether? well some ether smells sweet, so i thought maybe (as a very dumb end to this ramble) that maybe, lenore associates the sweet smelling scent of what she used to be knocked out with to the sweet scent of flowers– i have no idea if that's why she hates flowers but i thought that was a fun little mention. food for thought, you know?
anyways, if you disagree that is totally ok, i truly don't know what i'm talking about half the time, but this has been bouncing on my tiny brain for the past few days and i decided i needed to let it out before i start plaguing the people i know in real life with my obsession. and also, friends, feel free to correct me if i'm disgustingly wrong on anything– i love to learn <3
and... yeah, that's all folks. gonna go rot now :)
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meiieiri · 8 months
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Something about JJK 236 is bothering me
That fight...was awesome, but it could have gone better.
Other than the fact that I'm currently in mourning over our king's garish demise (don't get me wrong, I do want him to be happy in the afterlife and I'm slowly coming to terms with his death, it's just I can't really process all this yet), I'm still a bit confused how we got here so quickly.
I have countless questions and I know Gege will probably brush this off in the coming chapters and pull yet another meeska-mooska-Mickey Mouse Clubhouse move.
But there is one that lingers in my mind up to this day:
Remember during the Fearsome Womb Arc when Yuji and Sukuna deliberated with each other on the possible resurrection or re-animation of Itadori's body via a deathmatch?
Yeah. We all know Sukuna, the king of all curses, is a master at one-shotting his opponent. Just take a look at what he did to our best rose-colored boy who went from this:
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To this, in a split second (lmao):
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Yeah, yeah, I've read all the “copium” theories from other Gojo fans such as myself who are kinda on the fence when it comes to accepting Gojo's death as being final or not, but, let me bring this back real quick to the matter at hand.
Sukuna went for the head with Itadori. Of course, maybe he did that to shut him up sure, but what I'm getting at is, the head is the singlemost critical point to hit when it comes to sorcery dogfights.
He knows this.
And he probably knows that Gojo Satoru, the darling of the heavens, the uncontested gem of Jujutsu Society, is a reverse cursed technique user. Pretty obvious thing to catch since Satoru had been using RCT the entire showdown to heal his countless critical wounds.
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So, Sukuna, in all his centuries of wreaking havoc on the world, should know that the only way to permanently kill a sorcerer who uses RCT is by targeting the head. There were so many instances in this entire deathmatch that we are completely blown away by Sukuna's prowess and overall mastery of Jujutsu.
Can you imagine the amount of practice he's had over the years with other "greatest sorcerer of their generation"s? He knows the ins and outs of Jujutsu like scripture, which is exactly what kept Gojo Satoru on his backfoot for some parts of their skirmish.
Now, here's the thing that's bothering me:
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I liken Sukuna as something like a super computer. All that battle experience is readily available to him like some Jujutsu techniques data bank, not to mention, Mahoraga's adaptation clearly gave him yet another advantage in this fight for the title of the strongest.
He knows Satoru Gojo has been frying his brain using Reverse Cursed Technique this entire time, and he's probably seen his former opponents do the same as well. He knows that the only way to kill them is by dealing a devastating blow to the head via decapitation or complete obliteration of the body.
So, my question now is:
Why did he bother cutting Gojo in this particular manner? Why didn't he go straight for the head, since Mahoraga's adaptation blueprint can now allow Sukuna to cut through reality/space itself and therefore bypass Gojo’s infinity non-selectively?
Arrogance now that he's secured his definitive victory? Or the so-called warrior's high? Why leave room for obvious speculation when it could so easily be crushed into smithereens if he just went for the kill?
It's all very confusing. I'll point back to the time when Sukuna swiftly decapitated Itadori.
And I'm willing to bet that that move was deliberate since at the time, Itadori had already been in Jujutsu High for quite some time and Sukuna must have realized that under the tutelage of Gojo and other sorcerers, he must be learning a thing or two about RCT here and there which may have led him to end the fight quickly hence, the resurrection of Yuji Itadori.
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Now before, ya'll attack me, I know what manga panel you're gonna throw at me to deconstruct this entire analysis and dismiss it as "copium". So, I'll put this here:
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I know it may look like Gojo's entire head has been blown off at this point seeing the pool of blood he's currently lying on. But why is Gege or the editor making the effort to cover Gojo’s head with the text bubble when, logically speaking (and coldly at that), Gojo should be deader than dead? Which he…in theory based on the afterlife sequence, SHOULD be.
And with that whole North/South thing to cap it all off? Though, I wouldn't dwell on that. The wording in that bit was very vague and I’m not really into the habit of over-reading so hehe~
Anyway.
Could it be there's something else in store for Gojo Satoru? Is something else at play here?
Or is this simply a writer's failsafe, just in case Gege wishes to bring back Gojo Satoru so that he'll have a rational explanation as to how that came to be? No one knows. But I think this wasn't some on-the-fly decision by Gege or the editors.
Gege Akutami - though as a writer myself, I find his current choices for the story to be a little questionable with the many gray areas where plotholes could eventually arise - has been deliberate about this story since the beginning, having already mapped out the fate of Fushiguro Megumi.
This panel, the entire chapter, the circumstances we're now currently witnessing is deliberate. And maybe...we haven't seen the last of Satoru yet.
I'll leave this here for everyone to think about. This is all speculation, after all, so don't be mean about it, Jesus. In the meantime, I'll just admire my husband, Suguru, for now and will probably go back to writing my fics~ 💕
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mspaesthetic · 1 year
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speaking of flagrant disregard of stock image licenses, how close does homestuck skirt the boundaries of copyright law? was hussie really allowed to just go to google images, take some random image, and control C control V it into a panel?
I'm no counsel, so anything I say should not be taken as factual or legal advice, but from what I understand about U.S. copyright law, determining what constitutes as fair use is done on a case-by-case basis using four major factors:
1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; 2) the nature of the copyrighted work; 3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and 4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
Ultimately, it's up to the court to interpret and weigh these factors in their analysis of the new work, so while one case may be declared as fair use, a similar case could be found as infringement. To break down what each of these mean exactly, let's apply them to an example from the comic.
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In the hypothetical case of Ornate Victorian Decorative Floral Pattern Artist v. Hussie, 612 U.S. 413 (2011), the plaintiff claimed the defendant infringed upon their work's copyright when the defendant incorporated an unpermitted use of said work into the defendant's own work, Homestuck, an on-line web comic.
The purpose and character was transformative, using the pattern as part of a backdrop in the story, and the more transformational the use is, the less importance is stressed on the other three factors. However, while the comic is made freely available to read on the Internet, Hussie profits off of the comic's ad revenue and sales of related merchandise, such as physical printed books of the comic, making it a technically commercial nature. This doesn't necessarily rule out the use as fair, but it weighs against it somewhat.
The nature of the copyrighted work, the original decorative pattern, has to be determined whether it actually falls under copyright or not. At present, it's impossible to ascertain if the pattern duly belongs to the author, or if it's merely a reproduction of a preexisting Victorian decoration. The concept of an ornamental Victorian era floral style isn't protected by copyright, but a particular rendition of one could be unless it has fallen under the public domain.
The third factor would seem to be counterproductive in defending against the claim, as Hussie markedly used the entire image to produce the repeating pattern, which is where it derives its entire value, at several points throughout the story, but this fact does not bar it to be found as fair use. It just makes it less likely. If the court found it to be sufficiently transformative enough, then this factor would not even weigh in as much.
Hussie's appropriation of the image definitely resulted in the loss of a license sale for the plaintiff (which could have prevented this mutually costly legal battle for both parties in the first place, but that's irrelevant), but the manner of how he used it definitely doesn't act as a substitute for the stock image. Any reasonable person looking to use a stock image of a pattern would likely prefer a higher quality, unmodified, and unwatermarked copy of the original, opting to purchase a license for it that guarantees some clearly defined legal rights. Regardless, the fact that it's licensed could weigh against Hussie's use.
If I was a powdered wig-wearing judge presiding at the trial, I would throw the book at Hussie and his lily white ass in the slammer. Whether this is how it would actually go down in court, I do not know. I'm also not sure of the more dubious inclusions of other copyrighted materials, like the countless movie posters plastering the walls of the characters, or straight up Iron Man and Johnny 5.
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I guess the latter's case could fall under parody, since Hussie is at least stating that Johnny 5's sentience is fucking stupid. I still think he doesn't have much solid ground to stand on for everything else, though.
Then there's also the sticky issue of using celebrities' likenesses, as well as the photographer's copyright to those images.
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Then you've got using trademarked brands.
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In summary, Homestuck in particular is one big potentially misappropriated licensing powder keg waiting to explode (not really).
Oh, before I close out of this topic, there's actually one little curiosity I'd like to cover. On the MS Paint Adventures Wiki, two panels were uploaded on the very same day they were posted in an update that was soon after revised significantly:
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It's clear that the changed panels are highly more transformative, the paintings having been flipped horizontally and drawn over. It strikes me as odd that out of all the times Hussie could have been cautious of copyright, the harlequin paintings was where he drew the line. It might not even have been a concern over copyright but a personal matter of aesthetics. If that was the case, it'd be weird to go to such extreme measures for an inconsequential thing. Unless someone can grab a hold of the big man himself and ask, I guess we'll never know the real reason why.
EDIT: I asked an old friend of mine, phantos, who's a veteran member of the MSPA Forums and former acquaintance of Hussie's if they knew anything about this, and they vaguely recall something about an artist not wanting their work to be used in this instance. They also went on to mention that after the incident "it wasn't until he stole the furry porn for Equius' room that [Hussie] even bothered to look for art for 'whimsical room decorations'", which I don't think is quite true since I can think of at least one instance where he did (the witch furry poster in Jade's bedroom), but I felt it was worth noting down.
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Can you make something out of the Manga panel where (Future) Android 18 gets mad over video games? Or Android 18 in general, like how she uses a fighting stance like Krillin's in the Buu Saga, and the kienzan on "Mighty Mask"? Or breaking Vegeta's arm?Just, a general Android 18(maybe plus 17, or about her relationship with Krillin) character and fighting analysis?
Oh, yeah, 18 is great. What makes the Twins stand out both as antagonists and characters is that they're a stark departure from everything we've come to know in Dragon Ball. Neither martial artists nor warriors, they're children at play gifted unimaginable power without an ounce of discipline behind it.
This gives them a sort of universal appeal for an audience. It's fun to watch them wreak havoc with their play, but equally fun to watch them grow and develop as characters. The Twins came into this world with a wealth of potential.
18 often gets labeled as the serious one of the pair due to her stern disapproval or boredom over 17's antics. But it needs to be noted that she's every bit as playful as he is. They just have different ideas for how they want to play.
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17 likes to savor his entertainment while 18 likes to binge. They're both childish - in personality, I need to note, as that's Future 17 and 18 up there who've been around for twenty more years than their present counterparts. Their actual ages are never stated.
And they take turns ribbing each other for their respective immaturities.
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I've always loved how 18's complaint here is that 17's behavior is unbecoming of a robot. She's just like, "Oh, male sentiments; Your human base is showing, bro." Though she does also ping him with some straight-up Boomer Humor.
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It was the 80's.
To be fair, she's right. Like. I cannot stress enough that 17's plan for finding Goku is to drive around the world aimlessly until a Goku appears before him.
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Or that 18, despite her pretense of being above petty humanity, is snooty and posh.
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Did she come from wealth?
Did Gero kidnap rich kids? Are they the children of some higher-up in the RRA? Or is she just aggressively city? She has some opinions about rural life that you don't usually expect from an orphan or runaway or whatever the Twins were before Gero found them. 18 is inexplicably classist.
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Though 18 did say ACAB so she's not all bad. Two whole pages of the manga are just 18 fucking up some cops.
Nonetheless, this is how you know she loves Krillin. Living on the Muten-Roshi's island in the ass crack of nowhere is a sacrifice.
18's fight with Vegeta fresh out of the lab serves as our introduction to the Twins as fighters. The main element this fight focuses on is how... unflappable the Infinite Energy models are. We see Vegeta's attacks mess 18 up a bit.
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But the emphasis is on how cool-headed and robotic she is. She's taking hits, but she doesn't act like she's taking hits.
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This is another one of those lines that Viz didn't quite translate well, as it's easy to take to mean that he's failed to do any damage to her at all. Which is visibly not true. Rather, he's saying she's not acting hurt; He got a good hit in on her but she's brushing it off as if she were still in pristine condition.
18 simply doesn't react to damage.
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In Fighting Game terminology, 18 has Super Armor. She and Vegeta are evenly matched but her physiology, as a bio-machine powered by an Infinite Energy generator, is a world apart from Vegeta's.
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Notably, a breakdown of all of the androids on a title page indicates that 18 is weaker than 17.
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This was published at the start of 17's fight with Piccolo, so I assume the purpose behind it was to explain why 17 is evenly matched with the reborn Nameless Namekian when 18 was evenly matched with Vegeta earlier.
That or sexism. It's shonen. You can never discount that as a possibility, and 18 is one of like five prominent female characters in this entire manga - and the only one ever to be able to throw punches at a Super Saiyan level.
In terms of technique, the Twins have little martial arts knowledge or ki manipulation experience to draw from. They're amateurs fighting at an advanced level. More than that, they just woke up into this power yesterday.
So while they are capable of learning to draw energy from their generators and use it like ki, as seen from their Future counterparts, the Androids of the present haven't had a chance to learn that. They never use a single ki attack in the entire Cell arc. They understand what it is, they're never confused when others shoot ki at them, but they don't know how to do it themselves. They haven't had time to learn.
This is what makes 17's force field in his fight with Piccolo so shocking.
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It's also notably drawn to not look like a ki barrier or something. The crackle of lightning around it and the mechanical "VNNNNN" sound effect gives it the aesthetic of some sort of electric field. It is nonetheless likely powered by his Infinite Energy generator; I think this is what gave DBS the idea to make his whole powerset lightning based.
For the present, the Twins are pretty basic fighters in terms of technique. They're what you'd expect of random kids with lots of power plugged into them. They punch and they kick. But their intense power and limitless stamina makes them very good at punching and kicking.
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It's a shame Goku never got to fight them. I'd love to see what he makes of their style.
In addition to that fight setting up the Twins' fighting style, the end of 18's fight with Vegeta (and 17's subsequent shitstomp of everyone not Vegeta) also demonstrates our first glimpse into what makes these Twins different from their Future counterparts.
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They aren't interested in killing anyone. It's not super clear why that is. "Something something Cell something something butterfly effect" is the general explanation for all the retcons. This is what sets into motion the idea that maybe the two of them don't have to die. Maybe they can coexist with all the other amoral big-personality super-warriors on Earth.
A hill that Krillin will absolutely die on even if nobody else believes in it.
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IIRC Akira Toriyama has stated in interview that he likes for romances to happen offscreen because he doesn't feel he's very good at writing them. So he just. Doesn't.
In my opinion, this is what makes his romances some of the best in shonen. Dragon Ball doesn't waste time getting to the relationship, instead preferring to enjoy being in it. Toriyama gives us this:
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As an aside, the way Yamcha leaps to retaliatory violence because a woman rejected his bro has always read as a major YIKES to me but I digress.
But then she sees Shenron, comes back out of curiosity, and overhears Krillin spending a wish from a magical wish-granting dragon to help her and 17 live more comfortable lives despite her rejection.
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And we get a second, more conflicted departure.
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And then seven years later:
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You can see the appeal of Toriyama's approach to romance here. Like. If you're great at writing romance, all power to you. But if you know romance isn't your thing? As a Not Writing Romance romance, this is great. All the pieces you need to understand how this happened are there.
This is probably the best Not Writing Romance of Toriyama's career. And it gives 18 an inroad into the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai. Despite 17 being expressly the stronger, 18 features in both the first and last fights that the Twins are ever given.
While the tournament's ending is predominately a bit of a goof that 18 dominates, we do get a legitimate fight for her. It's not much of a fight, as she throws down with Mighty Mask, who is Goten and Trunks in a trenchcoat. But it does show how she's evolved into a martial artist, as the 18 of the present demonstrates the first ki attack she's ever done on-panel.
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Future 18 also learned how to manipulate ki, but that was primarily done through your standard ki blasts. Lots of them when she's mad at video games. (Felt.)
But this moment implies a lot about her relationship with Krillin. 18 hasn't just figured out how to use ki; She's been studying martial arts with him. In this moment, 18 realizes that Goten and Trunks are too strong to tackle head on.
But unlike any fight the Twins have ever been in before, she has an answer to that. She's taken Krillin's style as her own and learned a better understanding of how to be a martial artist. She has Krillin's signature Kienzan under her belt, as well as remarkable control over it to only cut the costume like that.
And more to the point, she has learned how to fight as an underdog. Faced with the power that the boys possess, 18 cuts the knot. She doesn't have to beat them; She only has to make them lose.
And then that just leaves the true champion and greatest adversary 18 will ever face, the legendary Mr. Satan.
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She does not win the tournament but she has the trophy in her possession. Bulma would be so proud.
It's funny to me that this begins a tradition of throwing fights in the ring to Mr. Satan after giving the other matches everything they've got. The progenitor of that tradition was an act of flagrant blackmail. Really goes to show how bad Goku remains to this day at reading dishonesty. Innocent to a fault, that man.
18 doesn't get to be involved in the stuff with Majin Buu. But she's never been a character who'd want to be. She doesn't care about fighting and defeating monsters and stuff. She's only ever been looking for a good time.
The series leaves her off in a place where we can feel confident that she's found what she was missing. She has a family that she genuinely seems to love, a relationship built on mutual respect and tenderness, and a fuckton of blackmail money to finally return to her apparently high-class roots?
She had to took a long and weird-ass van ride through the backwoods to get here, but she's gonna be alright.
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tempenensis · 1 year
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If you have time, do you mind helping me with some character analysis? Gojo is very hard to write because he's a very internalized person who doesn't actually show his inner thoughts very often. The times we get them, he is much more serious and analytical than his frivolous personality is meant to show.
Gojo is popular for the same reason that people hate him: truthfully we don't know much about *him* when it comes to the kinds of details which can be used to figure out where someone's personality came from. He comes from a privileged background, so there's lots of people who assume that he never really went through any troubles - that he never had moments of self-doubt or needed to find his place in the world, that his powers likely came easy to him because he's a prodigy, that his family "spoiling" him meant that he was never subjected to the cruel or intense training we know some of the nobles have set up in their family homes. He's also always been special, and it's unlikely that he ever had a desire to be a total non-sorcerer. He could walk away any time he wanted, like Yuki, and it's not like anyone could stop him either.
And Gege never truly refutes this. Gojo's personality is also so good at pretending nothing ever touches him (thematic!) that from the surface it could seem true. He is not the kind of person to be filled with self-pity so we never get panels of him hashing out his situation with the other characters (not that he can because no one is his equal enough to do this...). He's so busy he literally doesn't have time to dwell. He has been shown spending time with his friends, but no one wants to talk about the shit job they all do during down time, they unwind and talk about regular stuff, like regular people, and simply enjoy the company.
But deduction also tells us that people who grew up normal and well adjusted don't behave the way he's behaving. (Nobara and Yuuji had the most normal sounding childhoods of all the students and it shows, even behind the typical shonen characterization).
Clearly, the flashback arc is shown because in a way that is the origin story of the current conflict, and the origin of Gojo's current personality (Geto had a lot of positive influence on him).
Gojo turns against the sorcerer system because it cost him Geto, not because of anything that may or may not have happened to him. He was doing every mission the higher-ups could possibly have sent him on after Riko died. He wasn't rebelling against the system, he was trying to solve it by becoming the single solution all on his own. Again, not the response of a well-adjusted person.
He was not originally the kind of person to take revenge or turn against a system for personal issues, although he later becomes a little like this when he starts taking young sorcerer's under his wing.
There's a lot of fandom speculation that has hints that these things could to be true:
He was spoiled by his family, but they were emotionally distant in the way of all sorcerer families, praising the technique and seeing the technique instead of the child who was wielding it. It's possible he doesn't associate closely with his clan apart from very structured social patterns because he realizes that being "special" never meant he didn't deserve being treated like a child or taught how to behave. He's perfectly aware he has a "bad personality" and knows that this is in part because of how he was raised.
He projects emotionally onto the students in his care, and acknowledges that something about the way he was treated (mostly as a fine commodity) was deeply unfair, but he hasn't actually found another way except to acknowledge at the end of the day that this job gives you trauma and it's usually not worth dying for unless that's your thing (I mean how he throws the students into situations where they think they're going to die and his concession is to place himself as the safety net), and that you shouldn't miss age-appropriate events just because some grown up tells you to become a better little cog.
A lot of the fandom likes to assume that using Six-Eyes is overstimulating or possibly painful for him right away because at least then there's a cost to his using his power, and once again the sorcerer system doesn't care about the cost to its workers (I'm not sure about the right away part. we know that if he doesn't cover his eyes he gets tired, but Gege doesn't want to give gojo any weaknesses so who knows how long it takes).
Gojo is maybe not "afraid" of getting truly close to people but he keeps people at arm's length. No one at this point could bear the burden he does, and that's what he believes it means to be his equal. It's possible but unlikely that if someone reached out to him first, he would let him. We know touching Infinity can feel like you're touching him from the first vs.Jogo fight, and it's likely he truly does keep it on all the time, leaving him physically and psychologically prepared to keep anyone from touching him at all times, even if they don't realize it...
(Overall, it's very funny to me that Gege's friends apparently think his personality is like Gojo's. It makes it more understandable why he wouldn't want to talk about his character, or be annoyed that the person who is a secondary became too popular, but also the cat is a troll and is the kind of person to laugh and walk away if you try to ask them a question -_-. However, if you take the answers we do have literally, it sounds like Gege accidentally made a character with a lot of depth, but he doesn't want to deal with it…)
But we have no answers to the truth of these presumptions in a lot of cases, and I could keep going but I'm running out of steam and I'm already sorry to put so much in your inbox….
I know you don't give headcanons because your blog is more textual analysis blog, so I won't ask for them! Part of me is not even sure what to ask, because we simply have no answers, and I don't think anyone is going to give them to us. That's fine because fandom wants and needs space to do its own interpretations of the character, but when you want an answer that isn't there, it can truly feel like diving off a cliff to make that choice all on your own and run with it (cries because that means there are literally infinite choices to make and each of them alters the story a little).
Maybe what I'm really asking is, if you have time, would you pick apart my characterization of Gojo above? I'm a bit curious about what you agree with and what you disagree with because you're so good with finding the text evidence! I already appreciate you reading if you've gotten this far, and I appreciate all the work you do in the fandom. I won't feel bad if you refuse (not that you will, but I just want to make it clear I have no expectations!!) Thank you again so much for all you do and for letting us play in the space with you!
Hi, anon!
If you're asking about my opinion, I must say, this is pretty solid read. I agree with almost everything that you said, and can't really add much to this. Gege had said before that he "has no personality", I think that means he doesn't think too much about Gojou's character, unlike for example Yuuji or Nanami. This makes us learns more about him by crumbles dropped here and then - and not a lot actually told explicitly in the manga. ((it sounds like Gege accidentally made a character with a lot of depth, but he doesn't want to deal with it)) is actually a good point lol, fans' interest in Gojou is definitely deeper than Gege himself.
One of the most interesting thing about him is that despite his vocal opposing of the current jujutsu system, he still does his duty to this very system that he opposes. Even if he messes around sometimes, Gojou is the only special-grade sorcerer who actually goes to missions assigned to him and has been mentioned to clean other sorcerers' messes - which is why he is so busy all the time. This speaks more about him knowing that his priority lies in saving other's lives. I think for him, he is an actual proper jujutsushi who has lived as one since he was born because of the techniques he inherited - maybe the point of being a jujutsu sorcerer and what he has to do has been driven to him since he can handle his own technique. So all he knows is to be a jujutsushi first - and his desire to change the system only comes later, after he saw what this system does to people around him, especially Riko and Getou. Even then, he tries to change it from inside, as jujutsushi who is one under the very system he want to change. All he knows is how to live as a jujutsushi and he doesn't seem to want to stop being one, even if it means he can destroy the system from outside. He wants jujutsushi to continue, but with a better system, not to stop or destroy all of them entirely.
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listen its another dazai theory im sorry but he occupies my brain and i cant get him to leave
this ones a bit of a fucking mad one today lmao however, i was re-reading the fifteen light novel and i decided to look deeper into a query i'd always harboured towards one specific part of it, and that's the relationship between dazai and the old boss, so yk, let's get into it lmao
First of all, go check out this post:
it's a really good post, and it makes so many good points! Of course, my point does differ, but that doesn't matter, the quality and content of the post is amazing! Go show some love <333
This post ^^^ is the one that low-key kind of inspired me to make this theory. Anyways, onto the actual post lol.
So, the Previous Boss. A character that we know virtually nothing about, other than the fact that he was assassinated by Mori with Dazai as a witness, he was a savage leader and later became bedridden, to which his orders became chaotic and disorganised and ruthless. This is all that we know so far. So, not really much to go on. But that's why this is a theory :)
To be honest, it's a theory that's kind of canon in a way? Eh, anyways.
One of the number one things that stands out to me that makes me go "Ah! They're connected further than just a witness!" is in Fifteen, where this is said; (SPOILERS FOR FIFTEEN LIGHT NOVEL)
A distorted, crimson haze emerged from the other side of the subspace, and a figure appeared. "There… There is a nostalgic face. Hey, brat… Are you in good health? Have you been bullied by the doctor?" It was the old boss floating in the air, wearing a traditional, black robe. "Hey there." Dazai smiled stiffly. "It's been a while. How's your back pain? Your complexion is looking nice. Wasn't it a good thing you died? Boss—no, previous boss."
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Like, hello? Ahh, it really gets me going fucking feral when Asagiri throws shit like this in. Love you king <3 So, this is clearly like... something, right? I don't know, maybe I am just pure rambling about nonsense this time. I probably don't make a lot of sense, I'm very much quite ill right now and I didn't get to sleep until like 8am, and even when I did I woke up like 3 hours later. I am very much running on fuck all. Anyways!
Let's go more in depth I guess.
"There… There is a nostalgic face. Hey, brat… Are you in good health? Have you been bullied by the doctor?"
"There... there is a nostalgic face." - Excuse me? Now, I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that when Mori killed him, he was fucking bedridden and probably clinically insane fr. He was not right in the head or the body, and he was on his back, staring up at the ceiling. Once again, I'm no expert, but something tells me that he couldn't see Dazai across the fucking room, hiding in the fucking shadows. Fuck, we didn't even see him until the panel of him just... was there. Jumpscare fr. And again, as well as him being pretty hidden and quite a ways away, the Previous Boss was very ill, mans probably had fucking cataracts or something. My point is, there's a diminutive chance that he saw Dazai in the room. Plus, his remaining focus was on Mori, who was also basically obstructing Dazai from view. Suspicious much? Sorry sorry, lmao. Anyways yeah, it's just the "there is a nostalgic face" that gets me.
nostalgia
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noun: nostalgia; plural noun: nostalgias
a sentimental longing or wistful affection for a period in the past."I was overcome with acute nostalgia for my days at university"
(ofc nostalgia ain't always good like in this case lmao)
Honestly, one can only assume that Dazai and the previous boss had a connection before all this. The theory that appears to be most prominent is that Dazai is either the "rightful heir" to the Port Mafia and the previous boss' son, or that he was adopted by the previous boss. Both are very interesting theories, and I've looked into them and they have strong evidence tbh. They're pretty plausible :)
However, here's me with my bullshit theories that for some reason derail from what everyone else thinks.
I honestly don't think that he was the previous boss' son, however he very much could be, but I do think he had affiliations with him, whether that be his actual parents were affiliated with the Mafia, someone he knew, other distant family members, etc. However he was involved with the mafia, he was. (I'm not saying he was, I'm saying that any way you can think of would probably work lmao)
My point is that I think that Dazai has already grown up surrounded by this environment of violence and bloodshed and exploitation of others to get what you want. When Mori first meets him, he's already a cunning, enigmatic and manipulative child. Where on fucking earth could he have learned that, if not from the people he grew up with, whoever that may be?
Dazai's past will always be one of my top things to think about, because once we get his past, so fucking much might be revealed and explained, and honestly, I need to know fr. (I'm so sorry but 'Killing in the Name of' just came on and I must say, very fitting-) But yeah, sorry, getting off-track. My theory is that his past somehow links into the old boss somehow. Whether they knew each other for ten years or just one before Mori first met Dazai, I think that they definitely did know each other.
Also, another thing of importance to note is the fact that Dazai is still in a suit when he tries to kill himself and gets sent to Mori. Also, I don't know whether the bandages were because of the suicide attempt, or whether or not they're there from before he even attempted it. Personally, methinks it's the latter, but hey, that's not what we're talking about here. Another thing to mention is the fact that Dazai gets sent to Mori, a shady, underground doctor who's clinic is a neutral zone for any fighting and little wars going on between underground rings and gangs, and because at this point the previous boss was going on his rampage, it was sure to be a neutral ground from the mafia. Now, why was Dazai sent here? I've always theorised on this, but my newest one only just blossomed today lmao. One theory I had is that he was found somewhere by a gang member who took him to Mori because he was just like "Oh, a kid, take him to Mori or something." this one I guess is kind of plausible? More plausible than some others lmao. Another one that I had was that whether it was his family or not, the people he was with did not want any suspicion arising around them should they go to a normal hospital with Dazai or they just know Mori's a shady doctor that'll sort him out quick I guess. Another mad theory I had was that Dazai was raised in an orphanage and they didn't want anyone questioning why a child under their care ended up trying to kill themselves on the grounds of the orphanage, so they took him to Mori. (I have more theories on orphanage Dazai, it's one of the least plausible ones but it actually made a lot of sense when I looked deeper into it)
EITHER WAY, sorry, it's clearly suspicious and seedy that you'd send a 14 year old to an underground doctor who is known for being shady and underhanded. Just saying.
God, this got a bit out of hand. Anyways, the newest theory I had for this was that Dazai was under the "care" of the previous boss and had tried to kill himself, Mori got wind of this and took Dazai as his patient, knowing his relation with the previous boss and saw his opportunity to assassinate him, using the fact that Dazai is an acquanitance of the previous boss to his advantage, and the fact that he's his doctor (the previous boss'). Does this make sense or am I actually mentally unwell and just chatting shit?
Well, whatever lmao. Going more in depth into the little extract from Fifteen; "Are you in good health? Have you been bullied by the doctor?" Now, whatever the fuck this means I guess? I'm going to do a separate post about the second half of what he said, because what the fuck. Lmao, but for now, I'm mainly going to focus on the "Are you in good health?" I feel as if this is him not only mocking Dazai, but himself. Asking Dazai if he's in good health, because he's not because he was assassinated by Mori whilst Dazai watched, and he was bedridden towards the end of his life. And, he's mocking Dazai because just a couple days (weeks, months, idk the timeframe lmao) before he died, Dazai obviously was hospitalised because of his suicide attempt, plus the fact that Dazai is just... unhealthy anyways. He's underweight, covered in bandages, mentally unwell and just doesn't take care of himself and throws himself into dangerous situations and has very self-destructive tendencies, PLUS the fact that (not at 14-17 I'd hope lmao) he also drinks, like, that mf is not in a good state. So, I feel as if it's just taking a jab at that, as well as him holding resentment for being murdered when he was ill. Does that also make sense? Maybe not. Sleep-deprived bullshit, my bad. But, as much as it's him poking fun at the situation and the people involved (also it could be bc yk Mori's a doctor, haha funny joke, yk? lmao) I think it's also quite familiar? Like, you know, you see someone that you know, and ask if they're okay, if they're in good shape, especially if since when you last saw them they're very much not. It honestly should come across as a caring remark, but obviously it's not in this situation.
Lmao anyways, another snippet from Fifteen because holy shit;
The true form of the silver flash that cut Dazai was a long scythe as tall as a human being. The old man holding the handle of the scythe gave a muffled laugh. "Cruel… Truly heartless. The day has come where the kid will be beheaded by this hand." The old boss said with a hoarse voice. "But before that, I'd like to talk about my memories… You're an enemy to me even in this body." "Boss. You're no longer a human…" Randou told him gravely. "I used a formula to recreate your memories and personality from when you were alive to insert into my ability… You are simply my ability. And your mission is… to take Chuuya-kun's corpse while stopping Dazai-kun. With that scythe." "Ok, I understand. This soul is a piece of torn paper clinging to your ability. This body is an automatic doll with no interior or self consciousness… But, it's an incredible feeling." The old boss raised the scythe. A black cloth emerged from thin air and wrapped around him… like an old, western grim reaper.
This one got me rabid fr.
Let's go from the start.
The old man holding the handle of the scythe gave a muffled laugh. "Cruel... Truly heartless. The day has come where the kid will be beheaded by this hand."
Right. Right right right. Not only does he laugh after he slices the bitch, what I find interesting is the "Cruel... Truly heartless." Now, he could be referring to a plethora of things, so I'll go ahead and mention a few of them.
One of them could be him calling Dazai cruel and heartless, which is honestly how a lot of people see him and what he does sometimes come across as. He's calling him this because he stood by and watched him get murdered by his doctor, the one who was supposed to be taking care of him. (Again, this is all assuming that he knew Dazai was there, which apparently he did, but how?)
Another thing could be that he's saying it's cruel and heartless that he's having to murder a child. Maybe. But, as we know, he's a ruthless and uncaring man who would not hesitate to fucking deck a kid, so like.
Another thing could be just him being sarcastic about his next sentence, once again mocking and kind of belittling Dazai and making fun of him, because he's in an unfortunate predicament, much like he was.
Now, with a few of those out of the way, moving onto the next sentence which fucks me up.
"The day has come where the kid will be beheaded by this hand."
Now you old on just a fucking minute.
One thing I'd like to say is that typically, a beheading is used as a form of execution. (Also parallells Dazai's betrayal of the Mafia later. Could be me absolutely clutching at straws frantically but I like to make connections and stick to them lol.) And, of course, an execution is a form of punishment for someone betraying or going against any form of law or hierarchy. It's strange to me that he'd use this phrasing. Maybe he's saying this because he feels that Dazai should be punished for not stopping his assassination, and he is to execute him for betraying the Mafia by standing by and watching him die. But Dazai wasn't with the Mafia at this point. Once again returning to my point of their connection and that they knew each other, it could be his way of holding some bitter resentment towards Dazai for betraying him personally, and it's not just revenge he's hoping to get on him. The next bit that also gets me is the "The day has come" as if he's been waiting for this specific day for a while, since before he was assassinated. Gah, it's all so confusing. Also also, the repeated use of the previous boss using words like "kid" and "brat" are also interesting to me. He's really the only one to refer to Dazai that way, bar Chuuya and that one GSS soldier, who was like "The Port Mafia are recruiting kids now?" and of course, Chuuya and Dazai calling each other "brat" "punk" and "kid". It just feels... off, the way the previous boss keeps calling him this. I don't know if he refers to Dazai by his name at all, which could also be a reason as to why maybe they don't know each other at all, because it's of course a plausible line of thinking, as we haven't been given anything that says otherwise. I don't know, it just irks me.
The old boss said with a hoarse voice. "But before that, I'd like to talk about my memories… You're an enemy to me even in this body."
Also forgot to mention the "hoarse voice" when he's saying that to Dazai. That's a big hmmmmm moment fr. Anyways. This part really is so intriguing to me. "But before that, I'd like to talk about my memories... You're an enemy to me even in this body."
Hm? What was that? This part's really fucking suspicious to me. "I'd like to talk about my memories..." So, clearly, there's something in his memories (PLURAL) that he'd like to discuss with specifically Dazai, something so important that the one thing he's been waiting and itching to do must be put aside for the time being. It's the middle of the battle between the previous boss and Randou and Dazai and Chuuya, like, can it not wait?
Irks me, and the fact that (like I said) it's plural. He doesn't say "there's a memory I'd like to talk about." it's just "Let's talk about my memories" almost as if it's fucking all of them.
Then, the use of the elipsis with the jarring "...You're an enemy to me even in this body." is unsettling. He declares Dazai, a 15 year old, as his enemy. Not only has he made fun of him, slashed him up, threatened to behead him and possibly called him cruel and heartless, but he's now stating that he is his enemy, whether he is a corpse or whether he is alive and well, alive and sick, etc...
It's all around a little bit suspicious, if I do say so myself. The next part, where Randou interrupts and stops him in his tracks, is also highly important.
"Boss. You're no longer a human…" Randou told him gravely. "I used a formula to recreate your memories and personality from when you were alive to insert into my ability… You are simply my ability. And your mission is… to take Chuuya-kun's corpse while stopping Dazai-kun. With that scythe." "Ok, I understand. This soul is a piece of torn paper clinging to your ability. This body is an automatic doll with no interior or self consciousness… But, it's an incredible feeling." The old boss raised the scythe. A black cloth emerged from thin air and wrapped around him… like an old, western grim reaper.
(Laughing at the "Randou told him gravely" because he's fucking dead lmao, L)
THIS. THIS. THIS.
"Boss. You're no longer a human..."
SOUND FAMILIAR, YEAH YEAH?
The fact that this specific line was used is just... there's got to be more to it. Why would Asagiri choose to specifically use that? And don't forget when Kunikida also said the same exact thing to Dazai in 55 minutes. (SPOILERS FOR 55 MINUTES)
"The hell are you talking about?! 'Finally managed to die'? You're no longer human! You don't deserve that right! If you really want to die that much, I'll kill you myself! How about this?! And this?! How about from this angle?!"
It just strikes me as odd, the comparisons. Obviously, Dazai's ability being 'No Longer Human', the phrasing Randou used is strange. I don't know. Anyways lol.
"I used a formula to recreate your memories and personality from when you were alive to insert into my ability… You are simply my ability. And your mission is… to take Chuuya-kun's corpse while stopping Dazai-kun. With that scythe."
"I used a formula to recreate your memories and personality from when you were alive to insert into my ability..." So, as we see here, he is just the same as if he were alive and well. He's not just saying all this shit randomly, he has sound reason behind it and he remembers. He has his memories, emotions, etc. (I also want to know when and how he took the body into his sub-space, that's interesting). I don't know why Randou stops after saying "...while stopping Dazai-kun. With that scythe." I don't know, maybe he's just clarifying lol. Hm.
"Ok, I understand. This soul is a piece of torn paper clinging to your ability. This body is an automatic doll with no interior or self consciousness… But, it's an incredible feeling." The old boss raised the scythe. A black cloth emerged from thin air and wrapped around him… like an old, western grim reaper.
And just like that, he's over it. Lmao.
I like the comparison of the old boss the the Grim Reaper, I think that's really important. Especially considering he got his own throat slit by his evil doctor, but.
I think what's so interesting to me about it is that, as we know, Dazai constantly seeks and craves death. He chases after it non-stop, longing for a life that's not his own, and wishing for that one fateful encounter where maybe, he'll finally be able to die the way he wishes. Whilst other people run from death and are scared shitless by the concept of it as they run from the Grim Reaper, harbinger of their fear itself, Dazai actively seeks it. He runs after the Grim Reaper, praying that this time, maybe, he'll die. But as we know, he hasn't yet succeeded (technically he's succeeded twice lmao.) and he still chases relentlessy after him. So, I feel as if the comparison of the previous boss to "an old, western Grim Reaper" is important to note. Once again, I could just be babbling wham. Also, the way he's about to "kill" Dazai is fairly important. The second he raises his scythe, he becomes clothes and adorned in black cloth, like an executioner swinging his axe. A lot is being alluded to in these passages (passages?) that are repetitive themes throughout.
So, this probably made no sense, but honeslty, I just needed to get my jumbled thoughts out there.
In conclusion, I do believe that Dazai and the previous boss have some sort of connection, and I hope it's brought up again, and it wasn't just a one off or a misinterpretation of the scene. It seems really intriguing to me!
A lot of theories that I have seen include Dazai being "heir" to the Port Mafia and whilst that could be a plausible way of thinking, I just don't think so, but who am I to say?
Yes, he was in the room with the boss when Mori killed him; who's to say Mori didn't just bring him with him and say "He's under my care." or something? Maybe it wouldn't be that easy if the room was heavily guarded, especially because it's the Port Mafia's boss and many people are wanting to assassinate him, but they'd never suspect that his doctor would be up to something shady, and so what if he takes a kid in there with him? What's a 14 year old going to do?
Also, if the chances are that Dazai was "adopted" in a way by the previous boss, of course they'd let him go in with Mori, if they knew who he was.
And also, people saying about how why Mori would kick Dazai out of the Mafia at 18 is also due to the fact that he is indeed the rightful "heir" and he knows it, or something. But honestly, I don't know if that has much to do with it. I don't actually think that Mori expected Dazai to leave the Mafia; I don't think he understood the true impact Oda had on Dazai, because Mori doesn't know who Dazai is really. Dazai is cold, and doesn't show much emotion. However, it was a completely different story with Oda and Ango, and I think Mori didn't truly understand the extent that the fondness between them all went to. I think he wanted to keep Dazai under his thumb, reign him in, make him more obedient. If he could take some rogue compnents out of Dazai's life, it'd give him more reason to be more of a... mindless slave? To the Mafia? There's better phrasing, but do you get what I mean? With Oda's sacrifice, Mori killed about 6 birds with one stone. He got rid of Mimic, he got the permit he needed, he (if we exclude my theory of him trying to make Dazai more controlled) got rid of Dazai who was a threat to his position, he got the upper hand on the Division, etc etc. He really hit the nail on the head with that one move. But, in other aspects, it was indeed the wrong move. He lost a lot because of it. He lost the trust of Dazai as well as Dazai himself, he lost one of the most skilled ability users and a phenomenal assassin, also lost quite a few men along the way, (he already knew this but) he lost Ango, a skilled and resourceful information store (lol), etc. Confusing situation lol.
Anyways, sorry, went on a rant, but my point was that kicking Dazai out of the mafia for being the rightful "heir" wouldn't have done much. Dazai could still assassinate him if he wanted to be the boss. Which is why I think he has some underlying motive for doing what he did. Also, the fact that he seems genuinely dejected and angry when the Guild is fighting with them and he mentions that if Dazai were still here, the Guild would have been no match.
Also, a good point that the post I mentioned made was when Hirotsu mentioned specifically Dazai when talking about understanding Mori's motives, which I think was very interesting.
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Now, this could probably be about anything, but it does seem like it's directed towards Mori assassinating the previous boss. It could also mean about sending Chuuya over to his location, kicking him out of the mafia (this is the one I low-key kind of think that he meant), etc. It could be a lot, but seemingly it's either only getting Dazai forced out of the Mafia or the previous boss' death. Interesting points all around and their analysis and theory is so so so good!!!
Anyways, this was a bit longer than I expected it to be, I hope it makes sense! Any questions, please please PLEASE feel free to ask! Because I have a lot more to say about this, but I can't write it unless prompted lmao.
Thank you for reading this far, my love <333
Have a lovely day/night! <333
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This set of panels right here is a great case study on what makes a comic action scene truly great. The action of this scene is amazing, but it doesn't feel that way to read. Doctor Doom catching Cap's shield and throwing it back at him is a huge move that, when played right, could have the impact that Cap grabbing Mjolnir in Endgame had on audiences. This set of panels makes that jaw dropping scene feel awkward and clunky. Lets dissect why!!
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The first thing that jumps out to me is the focus of the panels. Comic panels can only show you a brief snapshot of the action, leaving you to fill in the spaces between, kind of like a real bad flip book animation. Because it can only show a few key frames of the action, it's very important to be critical about the action they showcase. We have three panels for this brief action stunt:
Cap throws the shield, Doom gloats
The shield flies at Doom, Doom gloats
Doom throws it back, Doom gloats, Cap narrates
The main purpose of this stunt is to show how dangerous Doom is. Not only is he a genius with enough sci-fi weaponry to make a Mandalorian jealous, he's a tough fighter with real fast reflexes. This is shown by having him catch the shield, something Cap has never had to deal with before! So isn't it weird that we don't actually get to see the catch itself? We know it happens based on Doom throwing it back and Cap's narration, but we don't even get to see Doom touch the shield. If I could redo the three panels, they'd go a little something like this:
Cap throws the shield
Doom catches the shield, Doom gloats
Doom throws it back, Doom gloats
Now you might have noticed that I also changed the structure of the dialogue. This is to fix a major problem I have with all comics from this era, the over reliance on dialogue. Have you ever heard of show don't tell? Well apparently Stan Lee hasn't. In every fight scene, there is always at least one person spelling out the action for the reader. It gets kind of annoying after a while. I would definitely cut out Cap's narration because with a good panel layout and good pacing, it's completely unnecessary. I'd also tone down Doom's taunting, as five speech bubbles in three panels just to berate someone is a lot. I'd lower it to three bubbles.
Panel one Doom doesn't say a word, not wanting to give his hand away. This silence would make Doom's actions more mysterious. By insulting Cap, the reader can guess that Doom has a plan. By staying silent, Cap (and by proxy, the reader) could be led to assume that they caught Doom off guard. This would lend even more impact to Doom's big catch, as it shows Doom is a menacing foe even when he seems unprepared.
Panel two, Doom would get two bubbles. He's a very arrogant and prideful man, so he would definitely hurl some insults Cap's way. Especially after catching his shield. I would have his first bubble say "Masked fool! You still do not suspect the true extent of my power!", with the second saying "I am any man's master!". These are good lines for sure, but I feel like they'd have a much bigger impact after the catch, rather than before.
And finally for panel three, I'd keep the "Do I make myself clear, you witless peasant?" line because it's a wonderful line in the perfect spot.
One other potential change you could do is in the actual action itself. This stunt is a great way to show off Doom's character, both in terms of physical ability and his personality through his taunting. We are meant to see how arrogant and prideful and overconfident he is through his constant insults. But any character can talk the talk. A real good character can walk the walk. Any character can speak, a real good character doesn't need to. Their actions speak for them. In panel three, Doom throws Cap's shield back at him, turning Cap's offensive into his own. But what if instead, he showcased his arrogance by giving Cap another chance? Instead of attacking Cap with the shield, Doom could slide it along the floor, passing it back to Cap. This would show how Doom is so full of himself that he doesn't even consider Cap a threat. He would essentially be saying "That attack won't work on me. Try something better.". And if that level of arrogance doesn't scream Doom, then I don't know what does!
But anyways, those are just my thoughts! Let me know what you think of them, and what changes you would do! Thank you for reading!!
Panels from: Avengers #25
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a visual analysis of saezuru c50
prefacing this with: I didn’t end up going to art school but I have done a lot of drawing, so these are just my personal notes and thoughts on yoneda’s visual language
I’m not sure if people will actually enjoy this kind of thing, or if it’s redundant… let me know either way!
I really enjoyed the saezuru notes @eidolon-azii writes, and Ive been wanting to throw out some ideas about the art bit. This is incredibly late but I hope someone will love these things with me
I… actually wanted to review chapter 52, but I got sidetracked and I guess this will be focused on chapter 50 instead!
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Yoneda uses many types of shading, along with lines, to create mood. Usually, she uses light, clean lines with white and black, and a wash of shading, which is consistent with normal lighting, as seem above.
This changes a bit when we get to moodier or more emotional scenes.
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Right after yashiro grabbed doumeki , we see a glow around doumeki, basically chiseling him out from the dark background. The halo of light serves as a focal point, drawing your eye to doumeki’s expression. His expression could be considered placid, and many characters from nanahara to kamiya have noted that he is hard to read. Bringing focus to this expression was a really great way to push the intrigue. We, from yashiro’s pov, are brought to wonder what doumeki is thinking about. Is he upset? Does he feel like he’s being pushed away again? What does he want to do now? Personally, I feel that the (faint) rough pencil shading brings the panel from a doumeki fashion shoot (which… he’s fucking gorgeous here, hello) to a really raw moment. It’s details like this that really control the mood.
We also see a tone shift when they go to “doumeki’s woman”’s club. Rather than shading consistent with the rest of the club or environment, we get liberal use of shading, with crescents of light left to indicate volume. In this context, it seems to convey a quiet sort of turmoil. You see that yashiro’s shading is often darker than his environment warrants… which is something that I’m really enjoying. The framing of yashiro in the center of the stairs with harsh shading is a lovely severe touch to set the dark mood he’s in while he’s probably grappling with jealousy
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Something I think we all need to commend sensei for is her incredible, sensuous shading. From her early doujin days, her shading has come leaps and become truly masterful— you can see the effort she has taken to study volume, and to convey the softness and suppleness of flesh. I can’t find this amazing panel of misumi’s old man abs, but somehow they looked to me to be amazingly soft… the slight slackness of collagen loss from the aging process on top of muscle. This sort of feeling is one of the hardest things to convey visually, and I really admire her touch… IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE THIS PANEL IS PLEASE TELL ME I’ve been crying over being loss of misumi’s old man abs for a while now!!!
Here are two panels from chapter 50 where there is also sensuous shading. In these two frames, there is a great use of highlights and shading to create volume. I love the way the doumeki’s hands and yashiro’s legs seem so real and full— you can imagine the plushness of the leg and the firmness of the hands as the light hits it. The gradient in the shading brings a softness to the otherwise sharply defined volume, making it dramatic but sensuous, which I would say is a signature for sensei is work in saezuru.
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Note: sensei also occasionally does fully soft panels where the shading and the gradient are both done gently, but they are rare— likely because saezuru is not a soft story and cannot or should not be conveyed in that way
Another thing I really enjoy seeing yoneda use are what I will be calling “moments of impact”. These are composed of totally flat panels of high contrast colors: black, white, or flat shade. She uses clean, crisp lines, and the strength of the contrast is so great that the impact gives you a tiny pause. This is a moment that she wants you to see. She doesn’t use this style often, so when she does, I feel the need to pay attention. Below, both of these panels are cropped in a way such that you only see one singular action. Starkly, we see below a moment of rejection and a moment of protection.
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I can’t really think of anything else for this chapter, but I hope you enjoyed these panels and my thoughts on them! Stay winning (or crying, because I am tired and I really just want them to get together yesterday, for my peace of mind)
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Oshi No Ko Chapter 147 - My Thoughts/Analysis
I came into this chapter with very little expectations because of the way people were reacting to it and I came out of it very pleasantly surprised that it wasn’t a complete trainwreck. Of course, it was still a bit of a mess, but for completely different reasons that I expected. Spoilers for Oshi No Ko 147 below.
And so we finally start off with the long awaited Hikaru-Ruby conversation. The paneling with Hikaru showing his black star eyes alongside Ruby and her own white star eyes is a very cool contrast. And his gentle prodding toward Ruby is basically saying that he knows she took a long time at the shrine, so he’s curious to hear what she has to say. I wonder what kind of answer he’d had in mind there, and whether or not he expects Ruby to be truthful, especially since I’m getting the vibe that she knows exactly who he is. But they have to play their roles, especially since he hasn’t been unveiled just yet.
“No one was born purely evil in this world.” Saying this right next to the man who (probably) engineered Ai’s death is a real shot in the arm. I think this line basically confirms that she knows who Hikaru is, if only because she wouldn’t say such a line to just some rando in the same shrine as her. Saying these words doesn't make sense if she’s under the assumption that this person is a normal human being or worse, some reporter or paparazzi looking for a scoop. Ruby’s smart enough to stay clear of any sort of scandal especially when she’s out in public like this. 
“Nevertheless, there’s someone I can never forgive.” Hikaru must be sweating on the other side of this conversation, lemme tell you. This is basically a confession from her to him. Coupled with her previous words must really be giving him some mixed signals, though. 
It’s also curious that she’s on the fence on whether or not to forgive Hikaru, especially when he’s right with her at the moment. Not to mention that even she doesn’t know which decision is right, delegating her agency to some “god”. Crow Girl must be laughing her ass off in the distance right now.
With Hikaru’s backstory being unveiled to her, even though it’s being obfuscated through the movie, she can understand him somewhat. Is it enough to justify him being the (likely) reason why Ai is dead? That’s what she’s still settling with. In this case, perhaps it’s less to do with forgiveness, and more so not letting the past burden her? Aqua may appear to have a monopoly on coping badly with Ai’s death, but let’s not forget that Ruby was also present for Ai’s death as well. It’s just that Ruby was able to deal with that baggage in a healthier(?) way that Aqua did due Aqua’s other bits of trauma rearing its ugly head.
Ruby backtracking here is basically giving Hikaru an out so that both of them can pretend not to know each other. If he wants to reveal himself here, then she’s giving him an opportunity to do so. Of course, Hikaru, just like Aqua, answers honestly in a roundabout way. 
“If you come up with an answer after worrying about it so much, then you have to accept it. Everyone does.” Instead of absolving Ruby for not wanting to forgive him, he basically throws the ball back in her court. If she comes up with an answer—any answer—after this much struggle, then she should accept it instead of relying on a god to answer that for you. I also sense that he’s speaking from experience here, but anything more than that would have to be labeled as speculation.
It’s quite impressive that he manages to ferret out that revenge isn’t Ruby’s true wish. Revenge has always been an Aqua thing, and Ruby’s only gotten into it because of AquaGoro. Now that she knows that he’s still with her, she only cares about revenge if only because Aqua cares about it. I think it’s likely that he’s uninterested in Aqua because his revenge plot is too obvious—or perhaps not interesting enough in his eyes. I dunno, he’s just never had the same interest in Aqua as he does Ruby, and while I do think there’s a certain amount of Aqua-Hikaru versus Ai-Ruby parallels that he sees, I don’t think that those parallels are just the reason for his disinterest towards Aqua. Perhaps he doesn’t want to look at someone too similar to his past self? 
“I want to fulfill my mother’s unfinished dreams.” Interesting statement. Especially since I don’t believe we’ve seen what Ai’s unfinished dreams really were. We’ve seen her attachment to Aqua and Ruby as children, and her difficulty in not saying the whole “I love you” to either of them. Of course, this can also refer to Ai asking Gotanda to, “Please film the real me”, in her words. But I’m not sure Gotanda ever told Ruby about said conversation in the first place. I swear if this is something those blasted DVDs are dredging up—
“So you want to be like your mother. You want to be even one step closer to her.” Somehow the expression in these panels looks almost…disappointed? I think that’s the answer he expected from Ruby, but the next panel blows his expectations out of the water.
“I’ll become an idol that surpasses my mom…I think that’s the only way we can all be saved.” What a line. What a fucking line. It’s amazing to finally get the words that I think Ruby has been wringing in her head for so long into the air and to the reader. We’ve known for a while that she’s wanted to become an idol all to find AquaGoro, but this is some good development for her now that she’s found him. And since AquaGoro’s been suffering in silence for these past few chapters or so, I also don’t think it’s a stretch to say that this new objective for herself is also working towards AquaGoro.
Ruby with two white star eyes????? Oh my god. Ohhhhhh my god. If these are permanent—
Hikaru. Hikaru. His reaction there—and with his own white star eyes—
GOD DAMN IT AKANE. Interrupting this conversation is idiotic. I would even say this is slightly out of character for her, actually. The longer this conversation goes, the more information she can gather about Hikaru and his motives. This is a public place and Hikaru doesn’t know who’s around, so he’s not going to be killing Ruby in broad daylight. The duo even seem to be having a casual conversation, so the correct move if she is stalking Hikaru, is to jump in only when he starts to bring her to a more isolated location. 
And a Nino appearance! I’d wondered how she was going to get involved with Hikaru. Hikaru talking about the movie production itself is also kinda interesting. Him saying that this day would come sooner or later is curious. We know he’s killed at least one other person, but even to this day I am still suspicious on his reasons for killing her. But his words at least imply that he expected that there’d be a day where he’d face repercussions for his actions. I’m sure we’ll be seeing what he means in a later chapter since we’re finally getting to his backstory.
“But…before that…” Now what could this be referring to? My money’s on him finally confronting Aqua. If he wanted either twin out of the picture after he’d found out the movie was proceeding, he’d very easily be able to eliminate either of them through underhanded means. Not to mention that with Kaburagi’s insider knowledge, he could also shut down this production before it became a real risk to him.  Even killing one of the actresses in the movie would shut down production long enough for it to be sent to reshoots and possibly development hell. It just seems so strange that he’d allow things to get this far.
And now we cut to so many movie scenes being shown. What a disappointment. We didn’t get to see Aqua as the stalker react to AiRuby dying or go through his thoughts about these scenes in any meaningful way. I’ve already talked about the arc’s pacing issues before, so I won’t go over all of it again. There is one nugget of wisdom that I think I’ll point out here, though. The chapter seems to imply that Ai and Hikaru broke up after the twins were born. Whether or not that much is actually accurate is another thing entirely. 
I’ve had some time to digest the chapter in its entirety, and I think I have some final thoughts on the matter. Firstly, Ruby’s dual star eyes. On one hand, I love the idea of her getting them by trying to surpass Ai. On the other, I dislike that Hikaru was the catalyst for her getting them in the first place. Still, with how the panels in the manga were framed, it’s difficult to determine whether or not these are now permanent and now her “normal” state. 
I’d have personally liked for her to get them through a conversation with Aqua and delving into his own trauma, but his thoughts seem to have been obscured from us during this arc in particular. A shame, because it feels like we’re missing an integral part of the puzzle with him gone, and not in a good way. The fact that we’re getting so much Ruby screentime in this arc when most of the time the spotlight’s been on Aqua for most of the manga bends the narrative in a way that doesn’t rub me well. Really, how hard would it be for Ruby to have another arc that focused on her before the movie arc and the Ch123 reveal to develop her feelings for Goro and the idol industry in the first place?
Secondly, I think just by reading the chapter it’s quite obvious that she knows who Hikaru is. There’s been a boatload of talk about how Ruby was stupid for not recognizing Hikaru, but really, what was she to do when she saw him? Scream? Call out for help? That’d be a surefire way to get stabbed if his objective was to kill her. And again, it’s a public enough place that attempted murder would leave traces of evidence if he was to try to kill her. If he was trying to kill her, he wouldn’t go up to her and let up her guard. So she has to assume that he’s not here to murder her and goes along with the polite fiction that they’re just two strangers who don’t know each other. Her words to Hikaru just don’t make sense if she was talking to a complete stranger. She knew who he was as soon as he approached her, and she had to play her hand the best she could given the circumstances. It’s the only interpretation that doesn’t fall under complete character assassination.
My final thought with the chapter is this. I think I’m finally willing to put my chips on the table to say that I don’t think Hikaru is responsible for Ai’s death. Notice that I don’t say culpable, as it’s difficult to argue that he wasn’t somewhat involved with it considering that Ryosuke and Hikaru interacted with each other based off of what Crow Girl said(which we’ll assume is true). There’s still enough wiggle room between the lines with regards to Hikaru and Ryosuke’s relationship, as well as enough oddities with Hikaru’s behavior during the movie production makes me lean in that direction.
It’s also important to note that while the manga frames Ryosuke killing Ai as being the result of Ai calling Hikaru and him leaking her address ,we never actually see whether or not that’s actually the case and the circumstances behind it. We assume that Hikaru leaked Ai’s address to Ryosuke just because Aqua believes it to be so, but the exact link between Ryosuke and Hikaru is still nebulous. We don’t know the circumstances behind the two meeting in the first place, and how Hikaru knew that by giving him Ai’s address that he would go over to the apartment and kill her unless he instructed him to do so.
Of course, the elephant in the room is this: We’ve seen Hikaru kill Yura in the manga. That much is pretty much true. It’s why he murdered her that I question. He says he wants to preserve her talent and that’s the common interpretation to why he murdered her in the first place, but do we really believe he’s being completely truthful to someone he killed in the same chapter? I certainly don’t. Still, anything said regarding his motives at this point will likely slide into even more speculation, and I suspect we’ll be getting more Hikaru screentime before this arc ends. Maybe we’ll even have people actually beat some questions out of him.
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Hi, I'm a huge fan of your analysis and writing in general! I'm curious as to what your update top 5 favorite characters of all time are.
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1. TARA MARKOV / TERRA
The most that bitch of all time. Terra is that bitch. She does not want redemption. She does not want to make friends. She does not want to be saved. She refuses to be what anyone else wants her to be and she refuses to fit any easy narrative for her.
Terra was not my favorite in the cartoon, which is a testament to how good the New Teen Titans comic is that it made her shoot to the top of the list. Terra is the ultimate bad victimTM. She is just as ugly as the abuse that happened to her. It's almost painful to look at the full picture of her, because no matter what she does and how malicious and cruel she is, she still remains undeniably a victim who's not free in any sense of the word.
Terra is not really a person, she's just a ball of negative emotions. She's volatile and always reacting to the people around her. She's basically a minefield inviting you to step on her and blow your legs off. Terra doesn't really have a sense of self but she's not really in a situation where she could mature or develop in any healthy kind of way. She's a runaway and an unstable mercenary selling herself for money. Pretty much anyone would develop into a sociopath to survive in her kind of situation.
There's a panel in New Teen Titans where Terra is telling Starfire and Donna some version of her backstory that's a bit fudged to throw off suspicion from the fact she's spying on them, and Kory and Donna are both like "Well, everyone on the Titans has a traumatic backstory Terra you're not special." And that's what made Terra's character great to me. She's been through the kind of things the rest of the Titans has, and that doesn't magically make her a good person or a hero. She snaps because she's like sixteen and terrible things have happened to her so she becomes terrible. Terra reflects a terrible reality that happens to a lot more teenagers in America, but even teenagers who act like Terra are still deserving of salvation.
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2. KUMAGAWA MISOGI
The most loser of all time. Kumagawa is amazing because he turns so many shonen tropes on his head. He doesn't want to get better. He doesn't want to get stronger. He's going to remain the same loser forever, and yet there's something admirable about his character.
The best fictional characters struggle. Kumagawa's life is nothing about struggle. He gives everything he has just treading water and he doesn't succeed. Not only does Kumagawa struggle he has empathy for everyone that's struggling. He's incredibly emotionally unstable but not because he's cold or cruel but because he has so much empathy for the people around him. He cant help but feel and empathize no matter who it is. I am a fan of bad victims and so is Kumagawa.
He builds his entire life philosophy around sympathizing with people who aren't pretty, or righteous, or strong, or brave. He sympathizes with the people who try their hardest and make no progress at all. Kumagawa's philosophy is empower in its own way. Even a person who's absolutely mediocre matters as long as they're trying. Even a miserable life is one you can still smile and struggle to be happy in.
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3. SPIKE
The most character development of all time. Spike is such an interesting character because they could have just left him a villain because he was interesting enough as one. Instead, we got him dragged kicking and screaming through a redemption arc.
What makes Spike a good character is that he never gets away with anything. A lot of characters, especially main characters will have flaws that the plot either sands down or ignores to try to make them more appealing and likable. Spike starts out a monster, the other characters know that he's bad, and when he does something wrong he immediately gets his teeth kicked in as punishment. The other people don't forgive him, and there are always consequences.
What makes Spike a great character is that he learns from those consequences. Eventually he reaches a point where he can't continue on the way he has before, and he actually learns to be a better person because the only way to keep living is to keep changing.
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4. BUFFY SUMMERS
The most main character of all time. Buffy Summers is what happens when a plot actually tries to challenge it's main character instead of making the world center around them. Buffy believes she's the protagonist of reality, and she's sort of right but that mindset makes her suffer.
Buffy is EXACTLY like all the other girls. She just wants to shop, and watch TV, and talk about boys, but she's randomly been given super powers that she doesn't want. The seven season journey from Buffy acting like a normal hyperactive teenager, to by season seven being a very emotionally remote and distant girl with sky high walls built around her is such fantastic character work.
BTVS is a rare show where the main character is one of the most interesting characters, because the whole show is about the complex way she processes her trauma in response to the nonstop series of disasters that is her life. Buffy has pretty serious flaws, and those flaws get worse because she always has to be a hero which causes her to have a major self-righteous streak. Buffy's such a great character that she makes all the characters around her more interesting because of how well connected with the story. Especially with the way she parallels her jungian shadow, Spike.
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5. ENOSHIMA JUNKO
The most Junko of all time. Junko is a character that could get by on sheer force of personality alone. She is extremely entertaining, her dialogue is always an insane riot, she dominates any scene she's in and she's an insanely competent evil mastermind who gets credit alone for being one of the few characters who actually succeeds in her plan to destroy the world.
Junko always wins and that's the problem. Junko is the best-written example of a villain whose motivation is "I did this because I'm bored." Because for Junko, boredom is a soul-crushing apathy that derives her life from any kind of joy or feeling other than numbness. Junko was written to be a one-dimmensional villain with no trace of goodness inside of her. Kodaka could have gotten away with not making her any more of that because she's so effective as a villain.
However, she has more character depth beyond that. If you read her prequel story in "Danganronpa ZERO" you find Junko is the way she is, because it's impossible for her to live a normal life. She doesn't feel like a human being and she feels incapable of connecting with the world or the people around her so she tries to make herself a calamity, a force of nature, despair itself.
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Finished Duke’s Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Work/Life Balance in Urban Legends #18!!!
Pros:
Duke’s characterization here is truly great. They’re really leaning into his strong sense of personal responsibility and analytical nature and it really works!! There’s lots of little details in the characterization I really like, such as the short nightmare sequences with his mom, his immediate assumption that Jefferson asking after him is because he needs to improve somehow, his own analysis of his failures during a fight, etc. At the same time, the story does a great job showing how the theoretically positive traits of a duty-oriented, resilient nature are pushed to the limit and become negative due to circumstances. I’m a little mixed on Duke not asking others for help, since I feel like his history in We Are Robin should cushion that particular batfam coping mechanism, but it has canon backing in Batman & The Outsiders and considering current circumstances it makes sense. It really does feel like the writer knows their Duke and paid attention to his previous characterization.
Jefferson snitching on Duke for being on the verge of a mental breakdown to Bruce is so funny it has big ‘I’m calling your parents young man’ energy.
Batman telling Duke not to overwork himself is also hilarious like how’s that apartment in your glass house?? Settling in alright?? Need any more rocks to throw??
I really like that there finally seems to be getting some movement in the plot behind Duke’s mom and I really hope we get some kind of resolution to that soon.
‘Signal and the Outsiders’ makes me ridiculously happy to see for some reason.
SHILO NORMAN DUKE THOMAS FRIENDSHIP REAL I CAN OFFICIALLY START PUSHING FOURTH WORLD CHARACTERS AT HIM WITH CANON BACKING HELL YEAH!!!!!!!
Cons:
I’m a little confused regarding the choice to have Metamorpho as a permanent member of the team rather than Cass? As far as I remember (and I just double-checked albeit it briefly) she didn’t quit the team at the end of Batman & The Outsiders. I know this isn’t the first time she hasn’t been here but I suppose it was just a little less noticeable when the Fear State nonsense was happening so I’m only just now noticing it. I feel like I’m missing something. Was this explained in Batgirls or Detective Comics or something? Am I just forgetting something?
I’m also disappointed to see they’re sticking to their guns regarding just not developing Duke as a daytime vigilante. In the week-long montage there wasn’t any mention of it. At this point it’s almost starting to seem like all we’re gonna get with that is Batman & The Signal and lipservice. It’s a shame because it’s a much more interesting angle for Duke than ‘outsiders member’. Like the choice to apparently remove Cass as an Outsiders member but keep Duke when Cass is much more suited for it both thematically and aesthetically is really weird to me, but whatever keeps Duke appearing in comics, I guess.
Not a big fan of Batman once again appearing in Duke’s stories tbh like we’re out of the training phase, leave him a little room to breathe. I get it and I don’t hate it because it does make logical sense for Bruce to help Duke with detective work, but I really do wish they’d stop coming back to Batman with like half of Duke’s stories, you know?
The art’s SOOOOO bad it’s super funny. The colourist is really carrying the comic here because the actual lineart is atrocious. Shout-out to that one panel of Bruce swinging where I think the reference used was a ragdoll. 
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we just received new official art for the birthday party arc and I am pretty excited. It’s not an official panel but I’m fucking hyped anyway. So let’s take a look at it
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Okay so we have a lot going on here. First, let’s identify who’s who. Brasil and Ivjysk are pretty obvious. Vickie is definitely the one in the bottom right corner. I was a bit confused on who it was at first because of the lack of coloring, but looking at the direction the hair is in I can say without a doubt that Vickie is the only character with two tufts up and a few tufts down. The human facing Brasil is most likely Ethan, as there are few with mullets and none that come to mind that wear cargo shorts. I have no idea who the one in the top left corner is. Female troll with long hair is pretty vague.
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Now just what is this. Most may think that it’s just another flying hat like the one we see, but! Something intresting to point out the coloring below it. You may be thinking that it was just to fill up negative space, and Normally you’d be right. BUT! Look at Vickie again
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She’s looking at it. Her eye is positioned in such a way that she’s staring at the hat from behind. The hat is significant enough that she has her eyes focused on it. Compared to every other character who’s staring at Brasil. Vickie is staring at the hat, or whoever is wearing it. I think this is Brasil’s frequently mentioned dad. Going back to the other floating hat that might very well be Brasil’s. Signifying a sort of defiance or refusal of being the Deputy. There’s also the frown on Vickie’s face that shows that she doesn’t like what she’s looking at. Now, I’m not gonna go through every single chat log to figure out if Vickie knows or not. But I do know from a couple of my mutuals who are big Coldwell fans, that they’ve been waiting for her reaction on the serial killer thing. But, she scrolls back the chat log frequently and hasn’t commented on ANY of Brasil’s confessions. Which may mean she already knows. Now
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Let’s talk about the hands. Ethan is definitely holding a couch for reasons I can’t comprehend. Idk, maybe he throws a couch at some point? But Ivjysk on the other hand (intentional pun), appears to be holding a knife of some kind, with a green streak. This could totally be an artist error with the Brazil flag. But if it’s not an artist error then I think It’s either foreshadowing that Ivjysk is going to stab Brasil again, or that’s Brasil’s Knife. With Ivjysk and Brasil’s first meeting they exchanged knives. And I think they might be giving them back during the party.
there’s also the fact that Brasil is a Brazil flag but that’s either A, a joke. Or B, a number of foreshadowing could possibly be contrived from this but I’m not going to be the one to do it.
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The Bonnie. It’s a well known fact at this point that Brasil is a huge Fnaf fan. Specifically FNaF1 Bonnie. The stuffed Bonnie appears to be a pillow pet, something that I actually owned when I was younger (even though it was a dinosaur and not Bonnie). I googled it and it seems that it’s an actual item you can purchase
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My first thought was to follow the eyes since it seemed like such an important thing with Vickie but it turns out that’s just how it looks like normally. The Bonnie may be a birthday gift since this IS birthday art, but it might be symbolism of the softness that Brasil lacks. Because the second, faded Bonnie is meant to represent Brasil in the image.
I still have no idea who the top left troll is but I might update the post if I do figure it out. That’s my Brasil birthday art analysis
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Bring Karura BACK!! Part 2
Hi again, jaja
I got many new ideas and theories when I was rereading the manga so ima just drop them all here. It’s about the Immortals, the Demon Kings and the possible roles that everyone could have in the war arc.
I will warn you that this analysis/theory is even longer than the last one, so just so you know jaja.
(I had posted this before as a reblog when I realized it looked so ugly and that it diverted the attention from the new information I wanted to share, so I deleted the old reblog thingy and posted it again as its own post. I'm still learning how tumblr works and I realized with this thing that I like my posts to each be their own thing).
Anyways.
Enjoy!!
I said that I didn’t want Mephisto’s Devil *star* Punisher to be the one that killed Satan but I will have to retract from that statement just a bit. I don’t want it to be the only thing that kills him, but I want it to be the last shot they have to fire in order to defeat him.
Just like Nauhaus explained:
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The Devil *star* Punisher is a demon ego obliviator, meaning that when they shoot Satan with it, it will cause him to forget his own ego, to revert to the baby version of him that Yuri faced when she was a kid and back in the laboratory in the very beginning before he learned everything he could.
This is great, since now he can’t harm anyone this way; and here can come Mephisto and maybe Shemihaza (Shiemi), and seal him in a special capsule thingy that freezes time and space within it, letting him alive but not being able to move, grow, have contact or develop in any way (I made up this last part, I have no idea what Mephisto plans to do after they shoot him with that thing).
Anyways, is just to not let him go around posessing other people and causing mass destruction and death, or another Blue Night.
This is the best alternative they have, but for doing that they need to lower his defenses and expose his heart first. (How do I know this? Magic ._.).
2. Which is where I come again with my Immortal theory thingy: we have fire (Karura-Ryuuji), water (Hachirotaro-Yukio/Shura), and earth (Uroboros-Shiemi??).
I have given it a bit more thought and if we are already have three of the four elements in the mix (fire, water and earth), why not throw the fourth element (air), to have the avatar in there?? To make things more balanced??
Now, you may think, “but Lily, we barely know how Uroboros looks like and who will use him, from where are we going to get the air demon and its master???”
Well, that’s pretty simple, we have them right here:
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According to Homare, they are the highest level demon kin of Azazel, king of Spirits.
Yukio and Lewin are the ones that have a contract with them, unofficial and official contracts respectively; and when it comes to the requirements for them to be Immortals, it mostly depends on having this cycle of death and rebirth. I went to good ol’ trusting wikipedia to look up some info on them, and found this:
Indra is associated with the sky, lightning, weather, thunder, storms, rains, river flows and war. He rules over the much-sought Devas realm of rebirth within the Samsara doctrine of Buddhist traditions. (Another connection to Ryuuji there). (Samsara is the beginningles cycle of repeated birth, mundane existence and dying again).
Vayu is the god of air, wind and breath of life. On the east asian Buddhism he presides over the northwest direction.
Now, who is Vayu and who is Indra in the manga panel? I’m guessing that the one from the right is Indra (the one flying on lightning) and the one on the left is Vayu (the one flying on clouds), but who knows, I’m basing my theories out of some panels I found on ch. 122, and the info I wrote here, so maybe you can make something more out of it.
Ok so, they are two high level demons that seem to come in pairs, have elemental affinities to wind, rain and lightning, and are in some way related to the aspect of death and rebirth.
Now, who is the other exorcist that has dual demons with elemental qualities that relate to air, spirit and light..?
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Izumo.
Izumo controlling these two would be awesome, a bit too much maybe, but awesome as well. She can already summon Uke and Mike without her summoning papers (she still uses them later, I guess for a sense of security and stability), and idk how easy it is to pass a contract between masters, but Lewin could easily aid Izumo in controlling them, Shura aids Yukio, Tatsuma could appear here (hopefully), and teach some last minute fire bending-imean fire controlling abilities to Ryuuji and for the last element, earth, it will be more complicated, but I got a small idea on who could it be.
3. Here is where things get a bit complicated from all the mess of charts, elements and demon kings:
First we have the Diagram of Demonic Elements, in which the five main elements that exorcists can use when summoning demons are: fire, rot, spirit, earth and water.
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We know the following:
Fire is being covered by Karura-Ryuuji/Tatsuma.
Spirit would be covered by Vayu & Indra-Izumo/Lewin or Vayu & Indra-Yukio/Lewin (for current contract efficacy).
Water would be covered by Hachirotaro-Yukio/Shura.
Earth could be covered by Uroboros-Shiemi/Amaimon or Uroboros-Shiemi/Nauhaus.
Rot could be covered by many options but the main ones would be: Nine Tails-Izumo/Astaroth/Neuhaus or Impure King(???)-Neuhaus/Astaroth (this option is the less likely, but oh well).
We know that Astaroth is currently with Satan’s fraction but if you remember from the 10 year anniversary character spread, he was one of the characters facing to the right (Satan’s side, the one in the paperbag), but his face in which he posseses Reiji Shiratori (the dude from ch. 1), was actually looking at the reader (meaning that they are neutral, so he could be swayed to turn with the True Cross side, after some talking and confrontation).
(Same shit with Amaimon, Dog Mephisto and Shima, we gotta look out for these dudes, they may betray us in the future, or they already did with their whole “I’m your enemy/Ima play with your feelings/I will cause you to have some character development and make the plot move forward” thing -.-).
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Also, where tf is Takara?! Shouldn’t he be joining the exorcist forces with him being a high rank?? I know that the last time we see him is when he’s with Tsukiko (Tsukumo), when the artificial gate to Gehenna opened and everyone started seeing demons, I guess he was protecting Tsukumo (the bare frickin minimum but oh well). And I also find it curious that his head and his puppet occupy two places on the spread, meaning that whatever is posessing the puppet, has a will of its own, and Takara himself is another thing. This dude is suspicious as heck.
(A small parenthesis here, is that Kuro also has two places as well, I guess is because one is the demon cat sidhe (Kuro), and the other one is the physical body of the cat that is being posessed by Kuro, the demon sidhe).
(I know this is a bit outdated since Yukio already turned with the True Cross, but he's the only exception here, everyone else remains the same).
Also, I’m thinking that Astaroth is going to be the big boss that the gang is going to battle against (Ryuuji, Izumo, Koneko and Shima), since he hasn’t made any big movements for the duration of the war and the gang already has a lot of experience fighting against necrotic and rotting enemies (the Impure king, the chimera zombies, Nine Tails, Gedoin).
In this fight is where Ryuuji recovers his flames with Karura and everything starts to come together, ohyis baby.
So, after a good fight, they may persuade Astaroth to join them, or he may posess someone (prolly Neuhaus, for the element compatibility), so they can use his powers against Satan to lower his body defenses, since we don’t have a rot demon that is an immortal and has death and rebirth abilities, if we are taking the Nine Tails out of the equation, since I find it harder for Izumo to control her over Vayu & Indra, but is still a good option.
Also, Neuhaus should be dead already from using and being exposed to the Devil *star* Punisher and the crystallization of Armumahel this entire time, that’s why I think the one that should be making the shot is Yukio, since he’s immune to the effects of the black flame and any flame whatsoever.
But we know that Neuhaus has a personal grudge against Satan for killing her wife and unborn child as well as scarring him for life, so he won’t let go of the weapon even if his life depends on it (so all this is telling me that he will die or smt).
4. So, anyways, to wrap things up:
I’m gonna proceed to show how the accumulated energies and powers of the demon kings may side with the True Cross to weaken/expose and subsecuently defeat Satan once and for all.
(It will be “Demon with Master in Contract/Teacher to Help Control Them”).
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We have Satan’s mirror and almost equal which is Rin himself.
For the Sool, we have Shemihaza being Shiemi, and Armumahel being Yukio/Shima/Lucy (is she still dead??? omy I hope not). But both Sool are on the side of the True Cross.
For the King of Light, Lucifer, is kinda confusing, we got Uke & Mike, Vayu & Indra, and even the Nine Tails (since foxes are kin of spirit and light), with Izumo/Lewin or Yukio/Lewin being their masters. (Something is telling me that Lucifer will join the fight by directly posessing Angel, since he’s a clone of Lucifer as well as being in the Paladin position. Lucifer is slightly less powerful than Satan, so comparing him to Shiro being posessed, Angel has better chance to last longer as Lucifer’s vessel) (Also, will Angel die or sacrifice himself to contain Lucifer and this may free the position for Rin to become the next Paladin? I wanna know what happens) (We could even have Angel controlling Lucifer but that would be too far fetched lol or could also give the opportunity to Lucifer to have a life without pain and suffering ._. we may never know).
For the King of Time, we got Mephisto himself, if he doesn’t pull a betrayal out of nowhere, some scheme that may doom everyone or make some sketchy deal with some main character, then everything should be fine, sigh, this dude stresses me out so much.
For the King of Spirit, Azazel, we got Vayu & Indra (almost Immortals(???)), with Izumo/Lewin or Yukio/Lewin again, we could also add Nine Tails or Uke & Mike to the equation I guess, since they are all spirit and light demons, ugh, someone send help.
For the King (Queen) of Fire, Iblis, we got Karura (an Immortal), with Ryuuji/Tatsuma.
For the King of Water, Egyn, we got Hachirotaro (an Immortal), with Yukio/Shura.
For the King of Rot, we may get Astaroth himself, or in the worst case, the Nine Tails will have to be his substitute with Izumo/Neuhaus being her masters.
For the King of Earth we got Amaimon himself, whom I strongly believe Shiemi has a strong grip on him. Or Uroboros (an Immortal) (???), with Shiemi/Amaimon, but I’m not sure about that one.
For the King of Insects we got Beelzebub himself as well, he made it clear that it would be a pain if Satan won the war, so he will cooperate.
Konekomaru would be the main strategist for everyone to defeat Satan in the fastest and best way possible but idk how that will work out in the short time we have left.
With all this, we can see how the Baal and Sool all have their forces with the True Cross, which I’m guessing we will need in order to expose Satan’s heart and then shoot him with the Devil *star* Punisher to make him forget his own ego and destroy him right then and there or capture him and have him secluded somewhere with maximum security (like one of Mephisto’s alternate realities). Since Satan is like the fusion of every Baal and Sool, that’s why my insistence of having everyone fight together, aside from the fact that I want to see everyone kick a$$ with their powers and abilities, ohyis.
Anyways, this is all the new stuff I thought of, again, is all a theory jaja, some ideas I got and kept appearing and became bigger and bigger as I kept writing, uff. I rlly want to see how the story develops and I hope it lasts longer than them reaching the correct position and shooting Satan with Mephisto’s weapon.
Thank you all for reading this far!!! I can’t believe I actually got it to an end. My eyes are burning and I think I’m just giving myself super high expectations and ideas on what I think would happen in the manga, lol. But still is nice to dream and theorize jaja. Please excuse my english as it’s not my first language and I hope you are as excited as me for the next chapter!!
See ya in the next one~!!!
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TheLreads, Vigilantes ch 100, Replies Part 2
1) “Alright McBee, please tell me you’re gonna honor your name.”- More like “McBoom” actually. 2) “…
Alright I didn’t saw that one coming
but also, those Nomus do not look like the people who were calling to them a few panels ago, and they weren’t doing this bullshit stuttered speech, they said a whole sentence without problem”- The perception filter of looking at them from afar contrasted with getting a better look up close. And I’m guessing the stuttering is their last audio command/voice “skipping” a little as the “explode” command overrides all the rest of their functions. 3) “Good going McBee, I’m sure this is gonna work flawlessly”- Explosions have never worked out for failed him yet! 4) “bomber villain cells… you mean, a bomb quirk, right? something that Aizawa can shut down just by looking at
Also, lol at this page trying to be dramatic and making it seem like Jeanist, Edge shot and Tensei, three famous top heroes which we saw a lot in the main series, are just gonna do the opposite of being alive like that
lmao even”- Granted, he probably wasn’t factoring in Aizawa’s anti-Quirk Quirk when they were made, since a power that stops other powers working is so rare as to be one in a million, and thus the potential scenarios wherein it’d be used against the drones in deployment were not high, but yeah, having any other heroes present would have made the stakes higher. At best, they’re going to be mildly stunned by these blasts, if even inconvenienced at all. 5) “There’s… There’s just two of them Azaiwa. And you guys can climb up the building.
They pose pretty much no threat, if they try to run to target innocent people you can just immobilize them from a distance with your scarves.
I’m starting to think McBee did not thought this through.”- If this was all of the drones he had to work with, sure. But unfortunately for Koichi’s side, it seems he brought enough to keep every potential hero interference tied up at once whilst he makes a beeline for the hospital. 6) “Koichi please tell me that you’re trying to hit them with something strong rather than just using “non-lethal” shots”-Still human-shaped, so the mental block against killing people is in place, just in case they’re actually ‘alive’ in there.  7) “Well, maybe if you didn’t used this weak-ass pellets and instead actually shot him with your real power then you could prevent them”- They can’t suicide bomb with a hole through the head!....or maybe they still can, since it’s not really them pulling the trigger. Experimentation is required for a more precise analysis. 8) “Oh thank you Aizawa, finally doing something rational.
They are gonna pull some bullshit about how this is not gonna work, right?”- Well, no it works alright….but Aizawa’s got a visualisation limit on the amount of moving exploding targets he can keep locked down, especially since more of them seem to be spawning from the very shadows themselves. 9) “OH? YOUR QUIRK ACTUALLY WORKED? OH MY GOD THAT IS SURPRISING
I WAS SURE THAT BOMBER CELL BULLSHIT WOULD BE SOME ASS-PULL TO AVOID AIZAWA SOLVING EVERYTHING
ALRIGHT, SO McBEE McFUCKED REAL TIME COMPLETELY BY ACCIDENT.”- Well, Aizawa can stop the explosion from happening until he’s safely outside the blast radius, but that means he still has to be occupied with safely detonating each Drone one by one on the streets away from people, leaving Nomura free to make his direct strike on the hospital. Nomura definitely didn’t have Aizawa’s counter in mind when deploying the Drones, but there’s enough flexibility in the situation to keep them viable as a distraction whilst he achieves his real goal. 10) “Oh okay so there’s more of them it seems
a whole lot
McBee how many of those fucking things did AfO gave you to do this shit?”- Probably enough that he wouldn’t be able to fuck things up due to lack of disposable minions to throw at the problem. Although, this is taking into account Nomura’s competence thus far… 11) “alright guys, show us what nomus can do
and I don’t mean talking, expressing delight in causing pain and coming up with combat strategies. Because there’s definitely no way something like that would be possible, right? (: “- Not for another few years, though these drones do be beating the High-Ends out on styling fashion choices at least. 12) “Aizawa don’t start talking about your life, this is the sort of thing someone about to die would start blabbing about. We need to keep the timeline stable, don’t tempt fate.”- Aizawa’s guaranteed to die at a later time against Tomura, so for this fight, he can tempt fate and boggie-dance back and forth over the line of life and death, it won’t affect him none. 13) “OH WE HAVEN’T SEEN THOSE STUDENTS, I SO WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM
THERE’S A TURTLEMAN, A MINER ONE, SOMEONE WEARING A FEDORA ON THE BACK, ON THE RIGHT IT SEEMS LIKE KIRBY AFTER HE ATE SOMEONE”- At least one of these guys look like a pokemon evolution, and now I’m wondering hiw many hero team-ups formed from high-school classmates realising their powers worked well in tandem together? Like, Pokemon trainers aren’t known for their fighting skills directly, but as support options for their pokemons, they’re unparalleled. 14) “AIZAWA JUST TOLD McBEE HIS LACKEYS AIN’T SHIT
BEAUTIFUL
McBEE GOT McFUCKED ONCE AGAIN.”- These guys are literally disposable cannon fodder, so none of them will be a stand-out fighter. The real star of the show is making his move in the long shadows they cast though…. 15) “Oh, now you need his help, right Aizawa? Noooow he isn’t a villain under arrest, huh? Yeah, I deeeeeefinitely didn’t saw that one coming…”- Technically, he’s still under arrest. They’re just trusting him to run over to the police and hand himself into custody whilst they’re tied down with hero duties. It’d be nice if he also filled in the paperwork for them while he’s at it.
16) “But at least I’m once again curious to see how things are gonna unfold, even if that laughable fake-out with the heroes dying was laughable. My god man. You know, if they were original heroes exclusive to Vigilantes I could be at least worried that something could happen to them, but c'mon man, Tensei? really? It’s like trying to make us worry that Phelps is gonna die. which you already did before now that think about it…”- With Tanuma down and in a coma, there’s sadly no disposable police officers Nomura can wreak on his way to Pop, which means her safety is guaranteed so long as Phelps keeps himself between her and her faceless assassin. If he manages to lure Phelps away though…. @thelreads
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